Log archive of EquestriaDaily for Tuesday, 2019-10-08

00:01 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Discussion: Who Needs to Return for "Season 10"? [ http://tinyurl.com/y2ofoqse ]

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01:01 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by The Illustrious Q: RARE Signed Twilight Sugarskull FIENDShip is Magic Cover on eBay in Support of Turnip King Kickstarter [ http://tinyurl.com/yxkebyqt ]

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02:01 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Nightly Discussion #1941 [ http://tinyurl.com/y5pxg8uh ]

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02:07 * Ali drips all over DashedRainbows

02:08 * DashedRainbows pants

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03:01 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Makenshi: Luna vs Daybreaker Music: Jyc Row - Lunar Rebellion (feat. Satomi) [Hybrid Orchestral] [ http://tinyurl.com/y5jlzatv ]

03:14 <Schism> "Having a lot of gold is like having a lot to eat.  Great if you're hungry, but once you're full, it just looks like... stuff."

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03:17 * Schism provides the Surry with a bar of cookies 'n' creme 'chocolate'.

03:17 *** Changeling_Nightmares is now known as Filly_Nightmares

03:17 * Filly_Nightmares rolls around the chocolate and wigglewaggles at it!

03:20 * Ali rolls into Schism as well

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03:39 <Schism> Hm.  Piston Honda, from Punch-Out!, is a fan of Sailor Moon.  Who knew?

03:47 <Ali> Until they changed his name to Piston Hondo

03:48 <Schism> Either way.

03:48 <Schism> Turns out that in the Wii version of the game, he's reading that manga.  o3o

04:02 * Schism offers Ali some delicious pickled green beans. The non-spicy variety.

04:02 * Ali still prefers to nom on Schism

04:18 * Filly_Nightmares noms on Ali

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04:56 * DashedRainbows hugs Ali

04:56 * Ali leans into DashedRainbows

05:00 * DashedRainbows sniffs Ali and offers some hay

05:04 * Ali pat pats DashedRainbows on the head

05:11 <DashedRainbows> Woof woof

05:20 <DashedRainbows> I'm going to sleep, not that it matters

05:20 <DashedRainbows> Nini

05:29 * Schism randomly shakes together some tabasco, clam juice, horseradish, celery salt, vegetable juice, and black pepper, as well as vodka and ice, and serves to pones after straining.

05:31 * Ali sits on Schism

05:31 * Schism offers Ali one of those, but not spicy.

05:31 * Ali can't drink Schism

05:32 <Schism> A good Caesar... awr.  Well, even a virgin Caesar is good.  Especially with a bit of worchestershire.

05:33 <Ali> Booze do bad things to unicorn

05:34 <Schism> A good bit of veggie juice is nice and healthy, though.  Especially with spices which aren't hot.

05:39 * Ali noms on Schism mane

05:39 * Schism doesn't have a long mane. Not worth the nomming.

05:42 * Ali doesn't care, she noms Schism anyway

05:43 * Schism pouts. Is not a changeling made of food.

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06:07 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ConfusionRift

06:07 <ConfusionRift> Hello everypony.

06:07 <Schism> Shorah.

06:07 * Schism boops ConfusionRift with a linking book.

06:07 <ConfusionRift> o_0

06:07 <ConfusionRift> This sounds familiar... too familiar.

06:07 <Schism> Little bit of MYST on the brain here.

06:08 <ConfusionRift> Aah.

06:08 <Schism> ConfusionRift, if you haven't, you still need to play MYST Online.

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06:10 <ConfusionRift> Ain't it great when something crashes, but you have no idea what crashed?

06:11 <Schism> Yerp.

06:11 * Ali noms on ConfusionRift

06:11 * ConfusionRift patpats Ali. :P

06:46 <Schism> ConfusionRift: If you /want/ to play MYST Online... >_>

06:46 <Schism> Lotsa puzzles.

06:47 <ConfusionRift> I have been keeping that one on the back burner for a while. Then again, I'm trying to go through some games. You know, shorten the queue list.

06:48 * Schism nodnods.

06:51 <Schism> It is worth it.  And if you like the puzzles in La-Mulana... o3o

06:57 * ConfusionRift stares at La-Mulana.

06:57 <ConfusionRift> I still remember that one puzzle that seems to have destroyed you two in some way. :P

06:57 <Schism> Okay.  If you /appreciate/ the puzzles in La-Mulana.

06:58 <Schism> There's one room, late in the game, which provides a useful item.  It's not necessary to complete, but it's helpful, and frustrating to boot.

07:03 <Schism> There are also three puzzles which are one-time, and I will say no more of them.

07:04 <Schism> URU Live, if nothing else, does not betray you in that manner.

07:08 <ConfusionRift> One- time... uuurgh.

07:09 <Schism> Don't worry.  It's immediately obvious in two of the cases when you've screwed it up, and you can reload.

07:10 <Schism> (And from that, I know I need to rest for a little while.)

07:11 <Schism> I also hope I haven't spoiled too much.  :P

07:12 <ConfusionRift> Pffft. :P

07:12 <Schism> I'm pretty sure I didn't give you any USEFUL details.

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07:43 * Filly_Nightmares meows at Schism and ConfusionRift for warms!

07:44 * ConfusionRift huggles Filly_Nightmares. :P

07:44 * Filly_Nightmares sticks her hoovesies into ConfusionRift floof

07:54 <Finwe> Good forenoon, my smallish pastel-coloured equines.

07:55 <Finwe> Lt Cdr ConfusionRift, Mlles Filly_Nightmares and DashedRainbows, Messrs Cepheid, Schism.

07:55 <Finwe> o7

07:55 <Finwe> Capt Koopz.

07:55 <Finwe> o7

07:55 <ConfusionRift> RAdm. Finwe. (salutes)

07:56 <Koopz> RAdm. Finwe o7

07:57 * Filly_Nightmares meows at Finwe for warmsies

08:01 * Finwe hugs a Filly_Nightmares.

08:03 * Filly_Nightmares purrs and wiggles her way into Finwe warms

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10:06 * DashedRainbows licks ConfusionRift till he's dripping

10:07 * ConfusionRift pets DashedRainbows. :P

10:09 * DashedRainbows drops her chew toy at ConfusionRift' hooves

10:13 * ConfusionRift moves it around DashedRainbows. :P

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10:47 <Schism> "Excuse me.  You told me that we'd be observing a meeting of dragons." "Yes?" "This is a moot." "Well, technically--" "Yes, I know.  A draconic roar.  My point is, why are we here?" "Political education.  But do you know the name for a moot of diamond dogs?" "A howl, of course." "Of gryphons?" "A talon." "Of parrots?" "Trick question, they don't do that.  But if they did, it'd traditionally be a cannonade."

10:53 <ConfusionRift> Finally got it. The "gun gun".

10:53 <Schism> Huzzah?  o3o;

10:56 <ConfusionRift> The Eridian Fabricator, which I call The Gun Gun, is a cannon that uses eridian to shoot lootable guns.

10:56 <Schism> Ohhhh, Borderlands.

11:01 * ConfusionRift nods.\

11:01 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Morning Discussion #1715 [ http://tinyurl.com/y64d7p77 ]

11:02 <ConfusionRift> Trying to finish the main campaign, before just turning it to a loot fest. Also so I can move to La Mulana in full. :P

11:04 <Schism> Definitely worth getting it off your list.

11:04 <Schism> Both of 'em.

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11:17 <ConfusionRift> I should stop. I can finish this later.

11:18 <Schism> Need to get some sleep myself before said job interview.

11:21 <Cepheid> That would be a good idea yes.

11:25 <Cepheid> People have been complaining about how packed the trains are since Saturday.  This train still has plenty of space open in it.

11:25 <Schism> Kinda sorta worried.  I'm not sure where all the ties have disappeared to.

11:26 <Schism> Not that you need one, but 'business casual' for a job interview implies a loud tie and a quiet shirt.

11:34 <ConfusionRift> Because tties are so small you can't hear, and you really don't want to walk around with a screaming shirt. :P

11:37 <Cepheid> If a shirt is screaming, the interview would be the least of my concerns.

11:38 <Schism> You've not seen many of the shirts I have.

11:38 <Schism> I've *seen*, rather.

11:39 <Schism> I have a classic combination of cyan shirt and loud pink tie, which for some reason fits the bill quite adequately.

11:39 <Cyan_Spark> o.o

11:39 <Schism> Yes, it's just that terrifying.

11:40 <Cepheid> You DO want this job, right?

11:40 <Schism> I'm not sure why, but it works.

11:41 <ConfusionRift> "So,, can you tell me about your future goals. What you are truly searching-" (AAAAAAAAAHHHH!!!) | ...well, I always thought that computers were (AAAAAAH!!!) | "Mhmm mhmm." (AAAAAH!!!) | ...my call to... I'm sorry. It's a bit distracting? | "What is?" (AAAAAAH!!!) | Okay, is that shirt someone's reincarnation? Because it sounds like its in constant pain.

11:41 <Cepheid> Nah.  Just a good friend of the screaming sun.

11:42 <ConfusionRift> :P

11:42 <Cepheid> Apparently some deaf people thought the sun made a noise.

11:42 <Cepheid> Not sure what would convince them of that.  I mean...  Even d

11:43 * Finwe noms on Cyan_Spark.

11:43 * Cyan_Spark nicker

11:44 <Schism> I guess a bit of red with blue...

11:45 <Schism> This is not good, though.  I have seven hours before the interview and I really need to sleep.

11:45 <Schism> Got a good shirt and a good outfit, and I'm perfectly suited.

11:45 <Schism> As it were.

11:46 <Schism> I just know for a fact that I'm going to need at least a nap, but I'm worried that I might not wake up in time if I sleep know.

11:46 <Schism> now.*

11:46 <Cepheid> Run.  Run to catch the next train.  Whee!

11:47 <Schism> It's hardly a concern to get to the LRT.  Or the quick transit.

11:47 <Finwe> Schism: I'd recommend blue and white.

11:47 <Finwe> Or red and black, if you feel like going for aggressive attack.

11:48 <Cepheid> Okay this is annoying.  Woke up nice and alert.  Been such up to the train ride.  Now I am having trouble staying awake.

11:48 <Schism> Well, I can potentially do that... hmm.

11:49 <Cepheid> ...  Wait, university courses are usually a full credit?

11:49 <Cepheid> Every single CS course I take is a half-credit.

11:51 <Cepheid> Hum.  The #2 train is in fact a tad packed today.  Unusual.

11:53 <Cepheid> Also, while I avoided carpal tunnel, I suspect I'll be developing arthritis in my finger and hand joints.

11:54 <Cepheid> I've been noticing my finger joints getting a bit stiff as of late.  If I don't move them constantly, they creak a bit when I move them again.

11:54 <Cepheid> And a bit of pain.

11:56 * Cepheid looks at gaming news. Sighs.

11:57 <Cepheid> https://twitter.com/mrmedina/status/1181348462639452160?s=19 Put it on the cloud.  It's a great idea.  Let's everyone access it fairly!

12:01 <ConfusionRift> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EGVPf2IWsAEID6E.jpg:large This...

12:01 <ConfusionRift> So it wasn't just a middle finger, it was a double bird.

12:04 <Cepheid> Unfortunately their hands in this case are legitimately tied.

12:04 <Cepheid> Gotta love them orders.

12:04 <ConfusionRift> Also, really, why couldn't they just suspended their accounts, instead of deactivating them? Oh wait, I suppose because it's a whole lot easier to remove the accounts that have "Venezuela" on them.  And since they can't renew services on a suspended account for money, they would rather keep the money and remove them/

12:06 <Cepheid> Deactivation may have meant suspension.

12:06 <Cepheid> The two words are interchangeably used in IT.

12:07 <ConfusionRift> Hopefully it's temporarily.

12:07 <Cepheid> As for the refund issue, I am not sure how such orders work, but they may legitimately be unable to issue them legally.

12:09 <ConfusionRift> Not saying this is the case, but since it basically halts any services coming from the US, that would mean they can't do any monetary transfers from US to Venezuela.

12:10 <Cepheid> Both ways actually.

12:10 * ConfusionRift nods.

12:10 <ConfusionRift> So pfffttt.

12:11 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Comics: Anon's Pie Adventure #??? / No Normal / First Dates / Adorkable / Royal Chores #6 / Lost Sun #7 / Jekyll #2 / ATN Wolves #1-2  [ http://tinyurl.com/yy5yjc6p ]

12:12 <ConfusionRift> Okay, that's hilarious.

12:12 <Cepheid> So they can't accept any more money, they also can't issue any back in the form of refunds, and they also can't do business with Venezuela.  Welcome to the world of politics and borders.

12:13 <Cepheid> That said, I do wish the Canadian government would make a controversial move to counteract something Trump did.

12:14 <ConfusionRift> Apparently, there's a YouTube channel of people who check other video channels blindly. It was their first time watching Game Grumps, and their most common comment was "Why does he keep dying on the same spot?!", with "Welcome to Game Grumps" as a response. :P

12:14 <Cepheid> Trump basically made it okay to import prescription drugs from pharmacies in Canada as a way of getting lower prescription prices.

12:14 <Schism> Even made it a point of pride, that US customers should mooch off Canadian ones.

12:15 <ConfusionRift> There are a lot of things that are eeergh with this man's decisions. (shrugs)

12:15 <Cepheid> Yeah, my personal preference here, controversial as it may be, since it's basically Canada being an a-hole, would be for the Canadian government to forbid sales of prescription drugs to non-pharmacy organizations in the US.

12:16 <Cepheid> That is, only registered pharmacies may place orders, not the general public.

12:16 <ConfusionRift> And I agree with this motion.

12:16 <Cepheid> We already have a supply-and-demand issue in Canada.

12:16 <Cepheid> We don't need it being furthered by the US public importing from Canada.

12:17 <Cepheid> The only reason I consider this controversial is because basically it's us telling the US "So sorry, but get your prescription drugs locally" despite knowing that their drugs, locally, are freakishly expensive.

12:17 <Cepheid> I mean, mine aren't cheap either.  $175 for a month's supply of vyvanse, but in the US that'd probably be even more.

12:17 <Schism> Yes, but we have a difficult enough time subsidizing our own citizens...

12:18 <Cepheid> A quick search suggests up to $270mo in the US.

12:18 <Schism> Mm.  And that's in USD.

12:18 <Cepheid> Actually, recent prices suggest up to $313.

12:18 <Cepheid> With discount.

12:19 <Cepheid> Insulin and epipens meanwhile are extraordinary.

12:19 <Cepheid> Apparently, the more important a drug is to saving your life, the more it costs.

12:19 * ConfusionRift nods.

12:19 <Schism> Of course.  They've got you by the balls, after all.

12:19 <Cepheid> It's kind of weird, actually.

12:19 <Cepheid> In theory..

12:20 <Cepheid> Would it not earn you more money to sell a product at a reasonable, cheaper price that everyone can afford, than to sell it at a price that very few can afford?

12:20 <Cepheid> Take, $1000 for a single person, versus ~$33 for 30 people a month.

12:20 <Schism> Remember that the majority of financial groups are comprised of people who aren't going to be alive in 20 years anyway, and therefore don't care about the long-term when they can make short-term profits like mad.

12:20 <Cepheid> 30 people would be able to afford ~$33.  In fact, more than 30 people a month would be able to afford that by a long shot.

12:21 <Cepheid> 50 * $1,000 = $50,000, vs 100,000 * $30 = $3,000,000

12:22 <Cepheid> You'd reach a larger audience with a lower price, and that larger audience would, in theory, outstrip the smaller audience at a higher price.

12:22 <Cepheid> Of course, I'm not a economist.

12:22 <Cepheid> So hell if I know if I'm right.

12:22 <Schism> You're probably not wrong.

12:23 <Cepheid> Anyways, I'll be back in a bit.  I got some homework I gotta transcribe.

12:23 <ConfusionRift> I guess one of the reasons is because the other half would rather cross the southern border to get their medication way cheaper.

12:23 <ConfusionRift> Not a great idea, but seen it way too often.

12:26 <ADragonDreaming> A lot of high pharmaceutical prices, and healthcare high prices in general, are down to the fact that private insurance will pay high amounts (when they pay)

12:27 <ConfusionRift> ^That. That is not wrong.

12:27 <ADragonDreaming> For things like insulin, reaching the wider market may not be a concern for the profit motive, simply because the market is limited to those who have a condition, in the first place.

12:27 <Schism> It's not a very limited market, that.

12:28 <ADragonDreaming> Overall, a single-payer healthcare system would reduce prices

12:28 <Schism> Type 1 diabetes affects a wide array of folks, after all.

12:28 <ADragonDreaming> mostly because you're negotiating prices with the government, rather than a private insurance company

12:28 <ADragonDreaming> I'd personally see to eliminating the profit motive from healthcare entirely, were I in charge

12:29 <ADragonDreaming> non-profits only, everyone else hit the road

12:29 <ADragonDreaming> anyway, off to work

12:29 <Schism> Now, Adra.  Are you implying that a healthcare system which relies upon the almighty dollar as a metric for deciding the value of a life is fundamentally immoral?

12:30 <Schism> What a ridiculous notion.

12:32 <Cepheid> Someone do me a favour later today.

12:32 <Cepheid> Tell me to get off my butt and do my Japanese homework ASAP.  I hate that I keep doing this thing where I put off transcribing 'til the day it's due.

12:33 <Schism> I'm going to be out for the majority of the day, I'm afraid.

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12:34 <Cepheid> I'm sure I'll remember.  I don't know why I still put off work despite all my focus.

12:34 * ConfusionRift also has to go to sleep for woooooooorrrkkkkkpfffffftttttt.

12:34 <Cepheid> Oh, right, it's because I keep getting tired enough to fall asleep in the middle of the day.  o3o

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12:34 <Cepheid> Shouldn't happen today, I took only one se-  *Falls asleep in the middle of the day*

12:35 <Cepheid> Anyhow it'd be nice to stop doing things last minute so that I don't have to worry about them.

12:35 <Cepheid> I think today I'll put in some effort to get as much done as possible by starving myself and staying on campus.

12:37 <Cepheid> I am the worst kind of student.

12:37 <Cepheid> Finwe would be upset with me. o3o

12:48 <Cepheid> In all seriousness.  I have to ask.

12:48 <Cepheid> How in the bloody hells do you people write more than a sentence or two without wrecking your hands?

12:56 <Finwe> o3o

12:56 * Finwe patpats Cepheid.

12:57 <Schism> Cepheid: Not pressing that hard on the paper.  Exactly how you pull that off, on the other hand, remains something I've yet to manage.

12:58 <Schism> Especially when it comes to your average ballpoint pen, which ... well, /demands/ that you press down hard.

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13:00 <Cepheid> I have been trying for as long as I can recall "not to press too hard" so to speak.

13:00 <Cepheid> I can't do it.

13:00 <Cepheid> I either press too hard onto the paper, or I grip the pencil with such a grip that even the Grim Reaper wouldn't be able to remove it from my hands.

13:01 * Schism nods, "I've never been able to pull it off myself."

13:01 <Schism> Also, my writing is completely illegible unless I use block letters.

13:04 <ADragonHoarding> Cepheid: I have the same issue with pressing super hard and gripping too tight. In my case, it's due to Primary Dystonia (neurological condition)

13:04 <Cepheid> Done transcribing, whee

13:05 <Cepheid> ... I learn something new about you every day, ADragonHoarding.

13:05 <Cepheid> .. And something new in general every day, it seems.

13:05 <Cepheid> I know someone who exhibits symptoms of primary dystonia.  Never asked about it though, thought it'd be impolite.

13:07 <Cepheid> In truth, the only reason I'd even ask is two questions that I'm curious about, because it was not explained in my psych class.

13:08 <ADragonHoarding> my particular version is very mild.

13:09 <ADragonHoarding> I have a cousin who went on disability due to it, though.

13:09 <Cepheid> 1)  When they suffer from some sort of disorder that induces involuntary verbal or audible noise, are they aware of it?  As in, do they hear what they are doing?  And 2)  Disorders which cause physical motions, same question.  Are you aware of it?  I only wonder, because the human brain is designed to tune out repetitive things we do, to the point of us sometimes not being aware of doing it.  But...

13:10 <Cepheid> The only reason I wonder these sorts of things is because there are things that I take for granted, same as people with or without disorders take for granted, as well.

13:10 <ADragonHoarding> In my case, I'm aware of the symptoms when they occur.

13:10 <Cepheid> Like how people don't notice how loud they are, or things around them are, unless I specifically point it out to them, for example.

13:11 <Cepheid> Ah.

13:11 <Schism> One point I've noticed time and again is that when tired, or even slightly so, sounds become amplified to excess.

13:11 <Cepheid> I have a curiousity about psychological things.  How the brain works.  In particular, responding to sensory input.

13:11 <ADragonHoarding> given, they manifest as physical pain

13:11 <Cepheid> Ah.

13:12 <ADragonHoarding> and I can instantly see when the h I was trying to write becomes an f instead

13:12 <ADragonHoarding> to be slightly pedantic, this isn't a psychological thing, but  neurological thing

13:12 <Cepheid> Yeah, about the only thing I do that manifests as physical pain is my constant wrist and fist clenching.  I do it intentionally, though.  Something about the pain itself relaxes me a bit.

13:12 <Cepheid> Anyways, I'd love to continue this, but I need to run to my class.  I'll be back when I get there and set up.

13:13 <ADragonHoarding> yep

13:38 <Cepheid> Back.

13:38 <Cepheid> Getting on better terms with prof.

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13:41 <Cepheid> Hey ADragonHoarding.  You're familiar with French.  Does French have any oddities regarding expressing the number of month, or dates in general?  In Japanese, the numbers go ichi, ni, san, yon, go, roku, nana, hachi, etc., etc. up to 13, jyuusan, jyuuyon/jyuushi, jyuugo, etc.  For dates though..

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13:44 <Cepheid> Bah... this is hard to express.

13:53 <Cepheid> Basically, there are exceptional rules for expressing dates.  For some reason, they are explicit to numbers ending in 4.

13:53 <Cepheid> So 4th, 14th, 24th.

13:55 <Cepheid> What happens is that the alternative reading of "4" is changed, explicitly, for dates, for some reason.

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13:57 <Cepheid> Ah, now I know how to express this.

13:58 <Cepheid> ... Nope, lost it.

13:58 <Cepheid> Anyways, I'll assume there are fun exceptions for everything in French, as I'm learning there are for Japanese.

13:58 <Cepheid> I'm assuming the same goes for English, and I'm just not consciously aware. o3o

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14:16 * Cepheid practices his kanji by creating an anki deck for it.

14:18 <Cepheid> Hum.  GM is hiring and sending a representative tomorrow to talk to students.

14:18 <Cepheid> Debating if I should go, given recent events.

14:19 <LibrarianofHope> as in general motors?

14:20 <Cepheid> Yes.

14:21 <LibrarianofHope> they could use someone capable to run their automated stuff

14:22 <LibrarianofHope> what recent events exactly? something about pollution comes to mind

14:34 <Schism> Cepheid: https://twitter.com/spacedrugs/status/1181359758789480449

14:39 <Cepheid> LibrarianofHope:  GM Workers strike, mostly.  And the fact that said strike has resulted in GM "temporarily laying off" workers up here or something in that expression.

14:40 <LibrarianofHope> even without a possible moral question, it doesnt seem like a stable job enviroment, so maybe its not a good idea

14:41 <Cepheid> Yep.

14:41 <Cepheid> Schism:  Heh.

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14:53 * Ali flops in

14:59 * LibrarianofHope flops on ali and does a jojopose

14:59 <LibrarianofHope> ayaya yai!

15:01 * Ali does her traditional squeak at LibrarianofHope

15:01 <LibrarianofHope> im enjoying jojo a lot, its very fun

15:02 <LibrarianofHope> and has lotsa poses

15:06 * Schism has a stance labeled "We Didn't Start the Fire". It tends to be explosive. o3o

15:18 * LibrarianofHope has "Ali ish very cute" Stand, baps people with the banhammer

15:45 <Cepheid> One thing I wish this university would do.

15:45 <Cepheid> It has tons of money, it wants to build stuff using the money, fine and dandy.  Build a bunch of gazebos or gazebo-like structures where one can sit outside and get some shade regardless of the time of day.

15:46 <Cepheid> I want to be able to sit outside and work, while the weather is good.

15:46 <Cepheid> In fact, I'm doing that now.  Though I'm kinda sitting in an area that hasn't been tended to in what looks like a decade.  It's all falling apart, rusting away, etc.

15:48 <Cepheid> Problem is, I'm getting sun glare from behind me.  Whoo.

15:59 * Cepheid twitches, rants on Twitter for all of 10 minutes.

16:00 * Cepheid wanders off. Needs to find a microwave for food. Also, getting cold unexpectedly.

16:14 <Cepheid> I'm almost starting to think that this world is the negative afterlife.  I've died and gone to what many call hell.  This is the only reason I can comprehend that everyone is acting like morons.

16:16 <Cepheid> Rule stipulates no actions that reflect poorly on company A during a competition.  Player does just this, gets banned, loses reward.  Everyone jumps to the conclusion that it's because company B, who is from country C, which censors and is a dictatorship, has a stake in company A.  And that they are censoring free speech.  Its a god damned rule you morons.  You follow the rules or you get the banhammer.  Bloody hell.  How hard is t

16:17 <Cepheid> Meanwhile, we have governments looking into the rights of people.  They are freakin human beings like you or I.  For the love of the gods think for more than a nanosecond, and with the brain in your head instead of the one in your nethers.  They are human beings.  Like you and I.  They deserve the same rights, beliefs and deity excuses be damned.

16:21 <Cepheid> Also, our planet is dying.  We talk and talk and talk about how things we do are for future generations.  But then you go and take money away from education, money away from health, and money away from all sorts of other things, telling us it's for our own good, then shit on the planet, ruin everything, all to maintain a status quo that started a couple hundred years ago because it works.  Or rather, it worked.  We as a species hav

16:24 <Cepheid> But humanity chooses to ignore this, because a bunch of rich pricks with a pair of *yay*s in their eye sockets are more trustworthy than those greedy scientists who should be doing everything for free because it would cost us each all of nine bloody friggen dollars a year to actually fund them, but no, thats socialism!  Thats communism!  Next thing we know that money be going to cults that like to just go out and murder babies, bec

16:24 * Cepheid loses his mind.

16:25 <Cepheid> What.  The hell.  Is wrong with this world?

16:25 <Cepheid> How can 7 billion people, myself included, be this damned stupid?

16:26 <Cepheid> It isn't a lack of education.  Even the most well-educated, highest-marks-in-the-world person could still be a gargantuan asshole.

16:37 <Cepheid> I'm closing my Twitter accounts.

16:42 <Ali> This is why social media was bad

16:44 <Cepheid> It wasn't a bad idea, but the way it evolved is what went wrong.

16:44 <Cepheid> It became a way of having people soapbox all the various problems around the world AT THE SAME TIME and make everyone feel guilty for not doing anything about it.

16:44 <Cepheid> They make you feel guilty even *IF* you do something.

16:44 <Cepheid> It's just an endless cycle of guilt-tripping.

16:45 <Cepheid> I tried to deal with it by following only artists, and for a time it worked.

16:45 <Cepheid> Then Twitter started forcing me to see trending topics.

16:45 <Cepheid> Now, regardless of what I set for the trending settings, I'm seeing everything local to me that's going on, along with all the stuff that Trump does, from breathing in, to pissing in to the wind in someone's face.

16:46 <Cepheid> It never ends.  It's a never-ending stream of bull**** going on, stuff that Twitter thinks I should care about.  What other people around me think I should care about.

16:46 <Cepheid> I don't care that this actress got ****ing gout.

16:46 <Cepheid> And that she's started a kickstarter to fund her treatment.

16:46 <Cepheid> I don't care.  What I care about is what's going on in the tech world, for me.

16:46 <Cepheid> What's going on in the world of certain games I enjoy.

16:46 <Cepheid> But I don't get any of that.

16:47 <Cepheid> Nah, I get youtube stars who regularly go through the cycle of saying a racist thing, record a dead body, and other horrific things, then apologize, and then months later *DO IT AGAIN!*

16:47 <Cepheid> And every time, every.  Friggen.  Time.

16:47 <Cepheid> "Oh, he didn't mean to do it."

16:48 <Cepheid> Shut up and go choke on your own feces and stop protecting the person.  They're immoral, they don't care about you, they only care about making sure you stick around to keep making them money, keep making them feel special somehow.

16:49 <Cepheid> That's why they do the apologies.

16:49 <Cepheid> They know you're stupid enough to believe that they're being sincere, every single time it happens.

16:49 <Cepheid> Because it's happened before.

16:49 <Cepheid> The cycle is constant.  And worse yet?

16:49 <Cepheid> They actually get *MORE* attention when they do something stupid.

16:49 <Cepheid> So they do it to get more publicity.

16:49 <Cepheid> I am surprisingly calm for someone who is losing it.

16:52 * Ali pat pats Cepheid

16:52 <Cepheid> My psychiatrist was right.  The only way I'm ever gonna improve is if I make changes in my life.  I'll lose out on the ability to advertise anything, or show off my work to the public, but..

16:52 <Cepheid> Twitter has to go.

16:53 <Cepheid> Any type of social media platform that throws stuff I don't need or want into my face, has to go.

16:53 <Cepheid> If I don't, I'm just gonna have a repeat of above, over and over and over.

16:59 <Cepheid> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVYNKAzCruE

16:59 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.

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17:01 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Makenshi: Meaningful Tribute Cover: Koron Korak - Thought I'd Let You Know (Covering 4EverfreeBrony & Relative1Pitch) [Orchestral] [ http://tinyurl.com/yyp2mfem ]

17:03 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about EDF 2025\/4.1 - The Battle Hymn of the EDF

17:20 * Cepheid packs up and heads home.

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17:47 <Cepheid> Internet.  Vast.  Full of information.  Dangerous to navigate.  I should never have gotten involved in social media.

17:47 <Schism> Hum.  Okay, appointment's at 3:30.  It's 1:45 now.  A straight shot down the #301 LRT, followed by a quick pop over on the #21, leads to the nearest plaza to the corporate building.  In all likelihood, with this, I'll arrive there at least a half hour ahead of time, therefore I must go now.

17:47 <Cepheid> Good luck.  Don't knock em dead.  You want your employers alive after all.

17:48 <Schism> Thaaaanks.  We'll see how things go!  Should be alright.

17:50 * Schism brings a few dollars for snacks. There's an A&W there after all.

17:53 * Cepheid goea through phone to deal with social media stuff he doesn't want or need.

18:01 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Pony Plushie Compilation #351 [ http://tinyurl.com/y3zebyj3 ]

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18:12 * Cepheid goes to read DnDGreentext. At least there he won't see much in the way of "SJW" and controversy. Just a bunch of stories of people doing stupid stuff in a world of make-beleive.

18:13 <ADragonDreaming> the monday game that I'm in

18:13 <ADragonDreaming> my dragonborn rogue is finding himself as the morality chain for the half-orc sorcerer

18:15 <Cepheid> Heh.

18:15 <ADragonDreaming> though they teamed up to swindle a drunk halfling merchant out of about 20 gp by selling him a sahuagin finger as a good luck charm.

18:17 * PinkieShy licks the dragon

18:17 <Cepheid> ... o3o:

18:17 * ADragonDreaming raises a talon

18:17 <ADragonDreaming> Please do not lick.

18:17 * PinkieShy suddenly gains power from the dragon and suddenly starts to grow scales and becomes a dragon as well.

18:17 <PinkieShy> OwO

18:21 <Cepheid> I dunno how well I'd handle a PnP/tabletop game these days.

18:22 <Cepheid> "He's a farmer's kid.  Grew up, decided not to inherit the farm, took the nearest pitchforl and just set to wandering around.

18:23 <ADragonDreaming> probably depends on the format

18:23 <Cepheid> Aaand the bus I'm on has broken down.

18:23 <ADragonDreaming> oof

18:26 <Cepheid> Doesn't look like it wants to start back up either.

18:26 <Cepheid> Starts up, then moments later, shuts down.

18:27 <Cepheid> If the distortion I am seeing is any indication, the engine is overheating.

18:44 <Ali> What is it with you and getting on busted busses and trains?

18:47 <Cepheid> No idea.

18:48 * PinkieShy hugs Ali

18:48 * Ali squeaks at PinkieShy

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18:50 <Cepheid> All I know is OCTranspo chooses not to regularly update its busses.  We still have busses from the era before all busses were designed to be accessible as required by law.

18:51 <Ali> Or routinely inspect them it seems

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18:55 <Cepheid> In any case, I'm home.  My dad was able to reclaim me.

18:56 <PinkieShy> I noticed something since getting my new phone via finacing..

18:56 <PinkieShy> Yea, same signal as the cheaper end phones, but calls don't drop like it did.. and its just better

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18:57 <PinkieShy> instead of taking like a minute to connect to wifi when getting back in range its instant and signal it finds stronger one.. much faster and data speeds aren't sluggish.

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19:00 <Cepheid> Hey ADra, in a future IR run, things will be different. https://mods.factorio.com/mod/IndustrialRevolution/discussion/5d7cd5c0f78385000b1f5500 go to the last post by Deadlock.

19:00 <Ali> At least it'll balance some things

19:01 <Ali> And maybe cut down on the excessive steel demands of one of the sci packs

19:01 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: My Little Pony Speedpaint Compilation #112 [ http://tinyurl.com/y4cg3zoo ]

19:05 <Cepheid> According to him, not really.  However, alloying is going to be twice as fast.

19:05 <Ali> That's with chromatic acid?

19:05 <Ali> I'm not sure what alloying is going to be here

19:06 <Ali> Ugh, ears, don't be like this today.

19:06 * PinkieShy opens a door in game

19:07 * PinkieShy is suddenly underwater

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19:15 <Cepheid> alloying it

19:15 <Cepheid> er..

19:16 <Cepheid> Alloying is typically where you mix two metals together to create a new one.  Steel is considered an alloy in IR due to mixing with carbon.

19:16 <Ali> Ah

19:16 <Ali> So bronze and steel will get speed up?

19:17 <Cepheid> Oh.  Steel is an alloy period.

19:17 <Cepheid> Bronze and Steel yeah.

19:17 <Cepheid> Alloying recipes are beimg reworked to be twice as fast as the smelting recipes.

19:18 <Ali> Are they just too slow to keep up with the high demands?

19:18 <Ali> At least as far as steel is concerned

19:18 <Cepheid> Dunno.

19:19 <Ali> Well I remember you saying that to make one of the bottles at a certain rate would take like 1000's of steel

19:19 <Cepheid> I'm not Deadlock, so I do not know what he is thinking.

19:19 <Cepheid> Yeah.  But then, the others would require other materials in the thousands too.

19:21 <Cepheid> Mind, 1/sec red is easier than 1/sec purple.

19:21 <Ali> Though really, do you /need/ 1/sec bottles?

19:22 <Cepheid> Depends on research bonuses and lab speeds.

19:22 <Cepheid> To achieve a 1/sec requirement...

19:23 <Cepheid> On a single lab, we'd need a 3000% speed bonus.

19:23 <Cepheid> On 10 labs...

19:23 <Cepheid> 300%

19:24 <Cepheid> This is just for the basic electric lab, too.

19:24 <Ali> Though you can't get to 3000% until space age

19:24 <Cepheid> IR has a higher tier.

19:24 <Ali> Future age one I know

19:25 <Cepheid> I don't know what its speed is.  Don't have access to my laptop to check either.

19:25 <Cepheid> So really, no.  We don't need 1/sec.

19:26 <Cepheid> What is the research bonus we have now?  Do you know?

19:26 <Ali> Off the top of my head?  Not a clue

19:27 <Cepheid> I think it was +90*

19:27 <Cepheid> I hate tablet typing.

19:28 <Cepheid> Assuming +90%, and shortest research time, 30 seconds..

19:29 <Cepheid> 15.79 seconds per pack.  Let's round down to 15.

19:30 <Cepheid> At 10 labs, every 15 seconds, ten packs are used.  This means 40/minute.

19:30 <Cepheid> Divide by 60...

19:31 <Cepheid> We need to produce 0.667 packs a second.

19:34 <Ali> Fun times

19:37 <Cepheid> We are currently producing 18.75% of that in yellows.

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19:43 <Ali> That yellow was just to get it going, not to keep up with anything.

20:01 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Fanfiction Updates - October 8th  [ http://tinyurl.com/y39zwpvf ]

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20:10 <Cepheid> Right.

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20:18 <LibrarianofHope> i helped an oldlady owo

20:19 <LibrarianofHope> everyone is telling i got scammed

20:19 * Ali headtilts

20:20 <LibrarianofHope> an old lady approached me and she told me if i caould get her a job as a maid

20:21 <LibrarianofHope> she mentiones she needed movie to go back to her hometown at least

20:21 <LibrarianofHope> so i gave her about 70 bucks

20:21 <LibrarianofHope> everyone is telling me i got scammed, but if i didnt i would be a hypocrite

20:22 <LibrarianofHope> im happy owo

20:26 * LibrarianofHope glomps becuase yay

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21:01 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Makenshi: LyraBon Music: Silva Hound & PegasYs - Hands On (feat. StealingShad3z) [House] [ http://tinyurl.com/y2a9n3d9 ]

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22:39 * Schism returns from getting the job, offers Cepheid some Caesar with a spicy dilly bean.

22:43 * Schism has some Smarties, and he eats the red one last.

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22:58 * Schism then makes up an Oreo milkshake for the Surreal_Nightmares.

23:01 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Drawfriend Stuff (Pony Art Gallery) #3123 [ http://tinyurl.com/y5fdozga ]

23:08 * Ali flops over Schism and sighs, another social event failure

23:09 * Schism hugs the Ali, and provides a planestrotter card.

23:13 * LibrarianofHope flops on ali and flaifs

23:19 <Cepheid> You'd swear my cat hasn't seen me in many days.

23:19 <Cepheid> Following me around everywhere.  Using every chance he can get for cuteness.

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23:27 * Ali cuddles on the Cepheid and ADragonDreaming

23:33 * ADragonDreaming is cuddled upon

23:43 <ADragonDreaming> Blizzcon is going to be fun.

23:44 * Schism notes to Adra, "Of course it will! YOU HAVE A PHONE, after all! So you can be tremendously excited by Diablo: Immortal!"

23:45 * SunsetShimmer Snuggles Ali

23:45 * Ali leans into the SunsetShimmer and sees if any pone wants to mess with IR

23:50 * SunsetShimmer doesnt even know what IR is tbh, lol

23:52 <Ali> Industrial Revolution SunsetShimmer

23:52 * Ali brushies the sunmare

23:52 <SunsetShimmer> Aaah, okay. x3

23:53 <ADragonDreaming> Schism: blitzchung.

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