00:14 <Cepheid> https://twitter.com/ryoko_t3/status/1187522243657519105
00:31 * DashedRainbows offers PinkieShy the stick
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01:02 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Celestia and Luna BATTLE IT OUT DBZ Style [ http://tinyurl.com/y4gn9yma ]
01:05 <PinkieShy> !wiggle
01:05 <PinkieShy> Maybe it was dance oh well :P
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01:10 <DashedRainbows> !plot
01:10 <DerpyBot> *wigglewiggle*
01:10 <Cepheid> "Gold greases palms, builds empires, and instigates murder."
01:11 <DashedRainbows> <DerpyBot "*wigglewiggle*"> *wigglewiggle*
01:14 * PinkieShy does a small jig for DashedRainbows
01:16 * DashedRainbows claps her hooves
01:17 * DashedRainbows boops PinkieShy's horn till it zaps her
01:17 <ADragonDreaming> "Stop! In the middle of fear and shame / everyone's looking for someone to blame / like it's a game..."
01:17 <ADragonDreaming> "And now - I am better than win or lose / There's a new direction that I'd like to choose. It's call the truth ... It's call the truth..."
01:34 * Cepheid is playing Darkest Dungeon. Using his laptop while in bed to play it. o3o
01:35 * ADragonDreaming is rewatching the segment of the Steven Universe movie where the song is "the True Kind of Love"
01:49 <ADragonDreaming> ah, turn-based.
01:52 <Cepheid> Mmmhmm. With madness and eldritch horrors.
01:54 <Cepheid> I have a crusader that, inexplicably, has necromania
02:00 <Cepheid> I should get this game for my sister. Seems like it'd drive her nuts.
02:02 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Nightly Discussion #1958 [ http://tinyurl.com/y5d67th8 ]
02:02 <Cepheid> Okay Dismas, off you go to get drunk. Don't need you going insane.
02:26 <Cepheid> Uh...huh. I didn't bring enough food. Didn't think the map would be this large.
02:26 <Ali> Bleh, doing OoTR is getting super boring
02:33 <Cepheid> Well, that went from "So-so, leaning towards bad" to "Oh gods what the hell are we gonna do!?" really fast.
02:36 <Cepheid> .. I rested, in an attempt to recover.
02:36 <Cepheid> It only made things worse.
02:42 * Ali flops over Cepheid. "Factorio updated for a bugfix. Not playing but just pointing it out."
02:42 <Cepheid> I noticed.
02:42 <Cepheid> I'll do a server update then, before bed.
02:44 <Cepheid> There.
02:47 * Cepheid sends off Castillon, who has Hieromania(Believes he receives religious visions and such) off to meditate and pray at the Abbey.
02:54 * DashedRainbows flops over Ali
02:54 <Cepheid> "It writhes and flips, and yet says nothing!" - One of the guys I sent off to the bar.
03:01 <Cepheid> *Walks through a hallway, suffers stress damage.* *Enters a torture room. No damage.*
03:02 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Makenshi: More Pony Music! Creative Remixes, Quality Covers, and Blissful Originals! [ http://tinyurl.com/y4o35mxr ]
03:17 * DashedRainbows places a feather in Ali's mane
03:18 * Ali squeaks
03:20 <DashedRainbows> squeaky
03:20 * PinkieShy fills the room with Gravy
03:21 * DashedRainbows boops PinkieShy with a wing
03:24 * PinkieShy sneezes
03:24 <DashedRainbows> ☹️
03:25 * DashedRainbows boops PinkieShy's horn instead
03:25 <PinkieShy> :O Noo don't be sad
03:25 * PinkieShy does some magic to cheer DashedRainbows up
03:25 <DashedRainbows> yay! claps her hooves
03:30 <PinkieShy> clap your hooves and do a little shake.
03:30 * PinkieShy red faces.
03:31 * DashedRainbows shakes her rump
03:32 <PinkieShy> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPT-ueBaMWw
03:35 <Finwe> o3o
03:35 <Finwe> Good morning, everypony!
03:36 * PinkieShy puts a hat on Finwe
03:37 * DashedRainbows chews on Finwe's hooves
03:41 * PinkieShy chews on DashedRainbows ears
03:42 * DashedRainbows growls playfully and pounces on PinkieShy before licking him till soaked
03:44 * Finwe doffs his newly-acquired hat and hoof-wiggles.
03:44 <Finwe> !plot
03:44 <DerpyBot> *wigglewiggle*
03:44 <Finwe> *wigglewiggle*
03:44 <DashedRainbows> wigglewiggle
03:44 * DashedRainbows chews on Finwe's new hat
03:52 <PinkieShy> Wiggles in front of the mirror
04:03 * DashedRainbows drops the hat and wiggles with PinkieShy
04:03 * Finwe noms on Ali's tail.
04:03 <Finwe> Breakfast tiem? :3
04:03 <Ali> No ish Twilight Time
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04:03 <Ali> Ish ALWAYS Twilight time
04:03 <Ali> Even if Derpster says no
04:03 <Finwe> !twilight time
04:03 <DerpyBot> It's not Twilight time right now, silly!
04:04 <Finwe> She indeed does.
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04:11 <DashedRainbows> hmm
04:12 <DashedRainbows> DerpyBot: is Ali cute?
04:12 * Finwe noms on cabbage.
04:12 <DashedRainbows> meh
04:12 * Ali ish not cute
04:12 * Finwe ruffles the Ali.
04:12 <DashedRainbows> you look pretty cute to me
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04:24 <ConfusionRift> Hello everypony.
04:24 <ConfusionRift> RAdm. Finwe. (salutes)
04:24 * DashedRainbows pounces on ConfusionRift and licks a lot
04:24 * ConfusionRift pets DashedRainbows. :P
04:32 * DashedRainbows fetches the ConfusionRift a newspaper
04:32 * Schism flops in from work.
04:33 <Schism> Let us see what DerpyBot thinks.
04:33 <Schism> !flip
04:33 * DerpyBot flips a muffin
04:33 * DerpyBot catches the muffin with her hoof, upside down
04:33 <Schism> Looks like Ali is cute while upside-down.
04:33 * Ali ish not cute!
04:34 * ConfusionRift patpats DashedRainbows' head. :P
04:35 <Schism> <Xelpud> So, you learned all those ninja tricks from your dad, huh?
04:36 <Schism> ConfusionRift, you COULD always play a bit of LM2. o3o
04:36 <ConfusionRift> Hehehe. Well, apparently, they were descendants of trained ninjas.
04:37 <ConfusionRift> Ummm... maybe after I finish OneShot. :P
04:37 <Schism> Mayhaps. :S
04:39 * DashedRainbows paws at the Rift and chews on his hooves
04:42 <Schism> In China, a real estate developer attempted to hire a hitman to kill a rival. The hitman considered, then decided to outsource it to a fellow hitman for a chunk of the funds. That hitman then hired someone else. And then that hitman hired another one. By the time it was all done, the fifth hitman met with the target and offered to help fake his death.
04:42 <Schism> https://edition.cnn.com/2019/10/22/asia/china-jails-men-outsource-murder-plot-intl-hnk/index.html - I can't even make this sort of thing up.
04:43 <ConfusionRift> Smart man. :P
04:43 <DashedRainbows> that's old news
04:43 <Schism> Well, sorta. They were sentenced on the 17th.
04:43 <DashedRainbows> tl;dr don't skimp on hitmen
04:44 <Schism> Oh, the first one was hired for $282,600. Then he offered half to the second. And so on.
04:44 <DashedRainbows> obviously it wasn't enough
04:45 <DashedRainbows> being immoral is hard?
04:45 <ConfusionRift> I think it's just smart. The fifth is getting paid for taking out the target AND for keeping the target alive. :P
04:46 <Schism> The fifth guy was the only one who was smart about it. :P
04:48 * Ali flops over Schism
04:48 <Schism> I guess the hits just kept on coming.
04:48 * DashedRainbows gives ConfusionRift her chew toy and wiggles playfully
04:50 * ConfusionRift plays around with DashedRainbows' toy. :P
04:51 * DashedRainbows growls playfully and tugs at it
04:51 <DashedRainbows> man, I just cannot get an idea for my fanfic
04:52 <DashedRainbows> Equestria is a hard setting for dystopian fiction
04:53 * DashedRainbows plays with her chew toy and ConfusionRift
04:53 * Ali sits on Schism
04:54 <ConfusionRift> Niko: "Oh, it's a penguin plush. Hello!" | "H E L L O !" | Niko: ".........." | We are NOT going near that thing again...
04:54 <Schism> DashedRainbows: Well, there are a few good ones. Of course, Fallout:Equestria doesn't count, but Harmony Theory wound up being excellent.
04:55 <DashedRainbows> I know it's possible
04:55 * DashedRainbows is not great
04:57 <Finwe> Oh, time to go.
04:57 <Finwe> See you later, everypony!
04:57 * Finwe flies off.
05:00 <Schism> I'll be glad when, next week, I go to 2:30-11 training shifts -- and then, the week after, when I go to 8:45-5:15.
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05:02 * Schism squishes.
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05:25 * DashedRainbows sniffs Ali
05:38 <Moongoodboy> oh my gosh
05:39 <DashedRainbows> How's the ConfusionRift today?
05:39 <Moongoodboy> If you type /fluttershy/ into YouTube, like the fifth suggestion is /fluttershy and discord/
05:39 <Moongoodboy> >X3
05:41 * Ali boops Moongoodboy
05:41 * Moongoodboy scrunch~
05:41 <Ali> Shy is not Twi
05:41 <ConfusionRift> Doing alrighty, just chillin; and burning time. :P
05:42 <Moongoodboy> Schism: nottheonion?
05:43 * DashedRainbows sits by ConfusionRift and plays with a chew toy
05:43 <Schism> Moon: Something like that. Ridiculous News thread.
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06:03 * DashedRainbows curls up in the corner for sleep
06:03 * DashedRainbows shivers
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06:11 * ConfusionRift huggles DashedRainbows.
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06:34 <Golden> Roar
06:34 <Golden> Mario Kart Tour has you paying 20$ to unlock Luigi
07:01 <ConfusionRift> "Everyone is here... for a very low price!" :P
07:08 <Schism> ConfusionRift: Know what a Grecian cow says?
07:09 <ConfusionRift> ...heh?
07:09 <Schism> It says 'μ'.
07:09 <ConfusionRift> Boooooo! Hisssssss! :P
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07:26 <Thy> oof, icloud
07:26 <Thy> Over 1000 day's of unread messages
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08:18 <ConfusionRift> Ohboy... time to get reading. Or not. :P
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09:18 * ConfusionRift offers DashedRainbows some Cheeto Puffs.
09:19 <Finwe> Lt Cdr ConfusionRift.
09:19 <Finwe> o7
09:20 <ConfusionRift> RAdm. Finwe. (salutes)
09:25 * Finwe hats on coppertiger.
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10:54 <Finwe> Miss Filly_Nightmares.
10:54 * Finwe doffs his hat.
10:55 * Filly_Nightmares climbs onto Finwe head
11:02 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Morning Discussion #1731 [ http://tinyurl.com/y5do9ugk ]
11:02 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by The Illustrious Q: My Little Pony Friendship is Magic #86 Revealed - Writer, Synopsis, and Artist [ http://tinyurl.com/yy8z8mdf ]
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11:11 <Cyan_Spark> RAdm. Finwe
11:11 * Cyan_Spark noms back
11:13 <Finwe> o7
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14:58 <LibrarianofHope> beat the cold owo
14:59 <LibrarianofHope> feeling better
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15:04 *** ChanServ sets mode: +qo Ali Ali
15:05 * LibrarianofHope glomps da ali goodnes
15:05 * Ali squeaks
15:05 <LibrarianofHope> i got my mini vacation by way of a cold owo
15:05 <LibrarianofHope> i feel rather relaxed
15:07 * Ali nods and yawns at LibrarianofHope
15:20 * DashedRainbows sits on LibrarianofHope
15:22 * Ali sits on DashedRainbows
15:23 * DashedRainbows looks at Ali with watery eyes
15:23 * Ali wipes the poor mare's tears away.
15:24 * DashedRainbows hugs Ali
15:25 * Ali brushies DashedRainbows
15:26 * DashedRainbows licks Ali
15:26 * Ali licks DashedRainbows
15:28 * DashedRainbows tastes flat. Gives some sauce
15:35 <Cepheid> https://i.imgur.com/fi3KPlZ.png
15:36 <Schism> Now that's a Darkest Dungeon character.
15:36 <Cepheid> Yep.
15:36 <Cepheid> I'd also call that a bug. :P
15:37 <Ali> A houndmaster with a fear of beasts and zoophobia
15:37 <Ali> Sounds legit
15:39 * DashedRainbows sits on Ali. Go horsey go!
15:40 * Ali trots around with DashedRainbows
15:41 <Schism> Cepheid: Read a bit of Erma. Now I need more insulin.
15:41 <DashedRainbows> Yay! claps her hooves
15:41 * Cepheid throws a goblet of wine atop Schism. o3o
15:45 <Schism> Hm, an oni, a yuki-onna, and... don't recognize the third with the knife-hands. Oh well. o3o
15:46 <Cepheid> Hmm?
15:46 <Cepheid> Which comic is that?
15:46 <Schism> https://www.webtoons.com/en/challenge/erma/the-search-part-17/viewer?title_no=170650&episode_no=311
15:47 <Cepheid> Ah yeah, lots of different creature types in that one.
15:56 <Cepheid> Oi.
15:56 <Cepheid> Spitfire, c'mere. You see this?
15:56 * Cepheid points to small dimple of red on arm.
15:56 <Cepheid> You caused me to bleed.
15:59 * Cepheid watches as Spitfire walks over laptop, picks up Cepheid's ball of kleenex, and runs off with it. "..."
15:59 <Ali> From a keading or a random claw Cepheid
16:00 <Cepheid> Punishment for using laptop.
16:00 <Ali> She claws you for using a laptop?
16:00 <Ali> Or cause your lap is being taken by said computer?
16:12 <Cepheid> He. But yes. If I'm not paying attention to him and focusing on my laptop or tablet, he will start trying to pin down my arm, followed by biting of my wrist. Pinning usually involves the claws coming out.
16:17 <Cepheid> It is hard to type right now. Spitfire has claimed my lap for sleeping.
16:20 <Cepheid> Do I look like a bathtub, Spitfire?
16:52 * Schism finishes getting caught up on Erma. Also looks at Cepheid. "Yup."
16:53 * Ali flops over Schism
16:53 * Schism pats the Ali, needs to prepare for work.
16:54 <Schism> The yuki-onna freezing the oni, then crying because she really didn't mean to do that, is cute in a horrifying way.
17:01 <Schism> $4 for a kilo of peanut butter was a good price.
17:01 * Schism now has 4 kilos. "That'll last me a week or two."
17:02 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Makenshi: Community Feelings Music: NeverLastStanding - To Home [Rock/Happy Hardcore] [ http://tinyurl.com/yy5haqz8 ]
17:12 <Cepheid> Oh thank gods Spitfire, my leg was starting to give out there.
17:12 <Schism> Switched to your other leg?
17:15 <Cepheid> No, got off 'cause I moved a bit trying to relieve the leg pain.
17:15 <Schism> Ah.
17:17 <LibrarianofHope> erma, daughter of a yurei
17:17 <LibrarianofHope> no that is interesting
17:17 <LibrarianofHope> now
17:20 * DashedRainbows reads LibrarianofHope
17:24 <Cepheid> If people used more monsters in a peaceful sense, instead of the "dread creature" sense, it'd lead to some more interesting stories and games.
17:30 <Schism> LibrarianofHope, it starts off cutesy, gets a bit more complicated. Still cute though.
17:34 <Cepheid> Omnisharp... for the love of-
17:34 <Ali> Is it dull?
17:35 * Ali yawns and flops about
17:35 <Cepheid> Something like that.
17:36 <Cepheid> For whatever reason, the designers behind it immediately assume, no matter what, that you have Mono installed. Even if you don't.
17:36 <Cepheid> And if Mono *IS* installed, it immediately assumes a specific version.
17:36 <Cepheid> And if that specific version doesn't exist, it doesn't work.
17:37 <Cepheid> You have to specifically tell Omnisharp a lot of details, manually, to get it to work right.
17:37 <Cepheid> It's known by the devs, but they do ****-all about it.
17:38 <Ali> Sounds like Bethesda~
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17:39 <Cepheid> You have to tell it what programs to use, where the SDKs are located, because they make assumptions, don't check for the existence of certain programs, or even certain paths, or, ye know, even query the programs to figure out where stuff is.
17:40 <Cepheid> Like, for the 'dotnet' application, all you have to do is poke it with 'dotnet --list-sdks', which lists the .NET Core versions installed, and where their SDKs are.
17:41 <Cepheid> Meanwhile, for mono, let's see..
17:43 <ADragonDreaming> What game are we talking about?
17:43 <Cepheid> Not a game.
17:44 <ADragonDreaming> !log
17:44 <Unixkitty> https://unixkitty.com/logs/EquestriaDaily/latest.log.html
17:44 <Cepheid> Hum. Mono has no way to determine which SDKs it supports.
17:44 <ADragonDreaming> it's a... development tool?
17:45 <ADragonDreaming> omnisharp, that is
17:45 <Cepheid> Yeah.
17:45 <Cepheid> It's a system used for autocompletion in programming.
17:45 <Cepheid> It works by parsing project definition files to get information it needs, then parsing the source files based on those details.
17:46 <Cepheid> The problem lies in that there's two implementations of .NET and C#, these days.
17:46 <Cepheid> Mono, and Microsoft's NET Core
17:46 <Cepheid> There's also the standard .NET Framework, but that's being deprecated.
17:47 <Cepheid> Mono is technically, slowly, being deprecated as well, in favour of .NET Core, but it's still used in a lot of projects, and will likely continue to be used in favour of .NET Core "cause Microsoft"
17:48 <Cepheid> But the two systems use different approaches to creating solutions and project files.
17:49 <Cepheid> In any case, it's moot.
17:49 <Cepheid> The problem lies not with Mono or .NET Core, it lies with OmniSharp. OmniSharp seems configured to assume certain things.
17:49 <Cepheid> And in fact, will assume those things, and use it's assumptions instead of what you tell it to use.
17:52 <Cepheid> I have Mono installed right now. I tell OmniSharp to not use Mono. It's still trying to use it.
17:59 <PinkieShy> ...
17:59 <PinkieShy> Cricket just hung up on me calling about a refund they promised me 2 months ago..
17:59 <PinkieShy> I'm about to file a dispute on my credit card.. >_>
18:01 <ADragonDreaming> whoof
18:01 <Cepheid> Hum, turns out the problem's even worse. OmniSharp is not designed to check for versions of Mono that are installed.
18:01 <Cepheid> It's possible that it'll pull in say, Mono 5.4.2 instead of Mono 6.4.1, if both were installed.
18:02 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Fanfiction: The Last Ride [ http://tinyurl.com/y5as8psd ]
18:03 <Cepheid> Currently the solution is to uninstall Mono, and tell OmniSharp where to find it's SDKs.
18:04 <Schism> Premium subscriptions to Fallout 76 have been announced. *slow clap*
18:04 <ADragonDreaming> Yep.
18:04 <ADragonDreaming> $100 per year.
18:04 <Schism> I keep telling people these things, and they don't listen.
18:04 <ADragonDreaming> I shall continue to not have anything to do with it.
18:04 <Schism> Yerp.
18:05 <Schism> $100/year, or $12.99/month.
18:09 <Ali> AND they don't work!
18:09 <Schism> And surprise! Scrapboxen are broken.
18:10 <Ali> Private server's aren't private either!
18:10 <Schism> That is what we in the business call a 'positioning statement', or, politely, 'true from a certain point of view'.
18:11 <Cepheid> I wonder if there's an extreme schism now between the coders, artists, musicians, sound effects specialists, etc, and the marketing/sales team who keeps pulling these stunts.
18:11 <Ali> This isn't unusual for Bethesda. Releasing buggy ass stuff is their norm now
18:12 <Schism> I must say, it was pretty gutsy of Bethesda to give their players the gigantic middle finger a day or two before Outer Worlds released.
18:12 <Cepheid> Which apparently is doing well.
18:13 * DashedRainbows licks PinkieShy
18:13 <Cepheid> And that's fine and dandy, Ali, but I'm just curious as to the relation between the development team and the upper management at this point.
18:13 <Ali> Did you see the parody site someone did
18:13 <Cepheid> I also expect lots of contractual stuff that prevents them from leaving the company.
18:13 <Schism> Cepheid: Indeed. o3o;
18:13 <Ali> they didn't register fallout first as a domain name
18:13 <Cepheid> I mean, any time something like this happens, it's the development team that suffers all the flak.
18:13 <Ali> So someone snatched it up and made a funny parody.
18:13 <PinkieShy> Cricket chat online told me the refund was sent.. >_>
18:14 <Cepheid> No one ever stops to think "Maybe it was marketing or sales that did this."
18:14 <Cepheid> Of course, it's starting to come to light that you know, game development, hype, features and such aren't entirely the realm of the dev team.
18:14 <DashedRainbows> yay companies being pains in the flank
18:14 <PinkieShy> If i don't get it by November 10th.. I'll have no choice but to file a dispute against them or tell them I'm going to look into a lawyer.
18:14 <DashedRainbows> also yay capitalism
18:14 <Cepheid> You've got community managers, marketing folks, and such getting flak now for their attitudes and reactions to public reaction.
18:15 <Cepheid> Like, when a company gets backlash because instead of the community manager explaining, a marketing/sales/CEO comes out and says "We did it for the money" when it comes to EGS exclusives.
18:15 <Cepheid> That said, the shock in reaction to that is silly. It's common sense.
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18:16 <Cepheid> If Epic came to me with a few million in funding for timed exclusivity? I'd take it.
18:16 <Cepheid> I'd be insane not to.
18:16 * Ali flops over Lunanightwind
18:16 <Ali> I thought you wouldn't deal with Epic
18:16 <Lunanightwind> Hey ali
18:16 <Ali> Or you ticked them off or something?
18:16 <Cepheid> I ticked them off.
18:16 <Cepheid> I told the CEO to go **** himself, basically.
18:17 <Cepheid> I also told them that I'd be willing to work with them in the future, *IF* they made a public apology for their statements.
18:17 <Ali> Ah
18:17 <Cepheid> Still, my point is straightforward.
18:17 <Lunanightwind> Who is epics ceo, every time i think of epic i think of randy pitchford but im pretty sure hes with 2k
18:17 * DashedRainbows also licks Lunanightwind
18:17 <Cepheid> I forget off hand.
18:18 <Cepheid> I want to say Tim Cook, but that's Apple.
18:18 <PinkieShy> Wanna know what's stupid as well.. Activision on their call of duty games..
18:18 <PinkieShy> I uploaded a gameplay video to Youtube and it instantly got copyright claimed and blocked worldwide.
18:18 <Lunanightwind> I only remember that pitchford is 2k cuz he was so instumental to DNF actually coming out
18:19 <PinkieShy> I guess they don't like free advertising which gameplays videos basically are like..
18:19 <Cepheid> In any case, the basic gist for me is that, if I am offered money for exclusivity, I'll take the money.
18:19 <Cepheid> There's a reason why.
18:19 <Lunanightwind> Pinkieshy i had no problems with that with the multiplayer beta, did you upload mp or campaign
18:19 <Cepheid> Nowadays, people are encouraging the masses to stop with crowdfunding, patreon, donation and pre-ordering games.
18:20 <PinkieShy> I uploaded campaign.
18:20 <Lunanightwind> Atlus copyright blocked all my persona 5 videos back a couple years ago
18:20 <Cepheid> Actually, there's a story behind that.
18:20 <Cepheid> They wanted to prevent spoilers.
18:20 <Lunanightwind> Might be in their eula that you cant upload story elements
18:20 <Cepheid> Because I'll be honest, that's not a game I want spoilered.
18:20 <Cepheid> ANyways...
18:20 <Lunanightwind> Yeah i know cephid but they were still enforcing it last yeat it just surprised me that it wss still enforced
18:21 <Cepheid> Crowdfunding is discouraged these days because of folks taking advantage of it to get free money and giving nothing in return, or in some cases, the excessive delays that keep occurring.
18:21 * Cepheid coughs. Bloodstained. Star Citizen.
18:21 <Lunanightwind> Bloodstained was a masterpiece
18:21 <PinkieShy> The game i tried was call of duty advanced Warfare..
18:21 <Lunanightwind> Ill take alot of delays to get a good game
18:22 <Cepheid> Patreon/Ko-Fi and the like is being discouraged because there is no contract that stipulates that you have to keep your goals in mind, so it's possiblke for people to donate via patreon/ko-fi/etc and suddenly find out the developer is exclusive to a platform the people don't own or want to use.
18:22 <Lunanightwind> Oh i couldnt tell you then pinkieshy
18:22 <Cepheid> Pre-orders are discouraged because apparently there is some link between pre-ordering and poorly developed games, and the idea that it encourages poor development.
18:22 <Cepheid> And donations in general, again, similar to the Patreon issue.
18:23 <Lunanightwind> Im not sure where i am getting my copy of shenmur 3 yet cuz like i dont want to support epic but like i am barely touching my ps4 now a days
18:23 <Cepheid> People assume that because they donated money, they have a say in things. Donations don't exactly work like that. Having a say in something you paid money to, that's an investment, not a donation.
18:23 <Lunanightwind> The provblem with pre orders is when you get burned by it...see whats happening with the new WWE game
18:23 <Cepheid> Mmhmm.
18:23 <Schism> Hmm. Resident Evil 4 PC is $7 CAD. I might have to get that.
18:24 <Schism> (HumbleStore.)
18:24 <Cepheid> In any case, this all totals up to a singular problem for developers.
18:24 <Schism> Anyway, off I run to work. Ciaociao.
18:24 <Cepheid> It's hard to make money *WHEN* you're developing.
18:24 <Lunanightwind> Its been 5 days im still mad about the new wwe game
18:24 <Cepheid> And now, because Steam and Epic Games Store keep changing their algorithms for putting games on the front pages, it's even hard to make money when the game is FINISHED.
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18:24 <Cepheid> Game development is increasingly becoming an impossible field to make money in.
18:24 <LibrarianofHope> the wwe game, i heard it had assasins creed unity levels of quality
18:25 <Lunanightwind> Its not pretry librarianofhope
18:25 <Lunanightwind> I have a few hours of it uploaded to my youtube
18:25 <Lunanightwind> Hold on ill grab a good example
18:26 <LibrarianofHope> i saw a bit where the referee just gave up and didnt got up agaim
18:26 <Cepheid> As it is, we already have people saying that we should be happy to even be making a game. Expecting to make MONEY from it? Yeah, **** that.
18:27 <Lunanightwind> LOH https://youtu.be/tRZWzRccGfQ go to 43:49 and watch his robe
18:28 <LibrarianofHope> i suscribed while im at it
18:28 <Lunanightwind> Thats kne of the less aggressive glitches i have encountered that is reduplicatible every time
18:29 <Lunanightwind> Thanks for the sub its mostly my live stream depository i have yakuza 4 remaster and death stranding coming soon
18:29 <Lunanightwind> Might start doing commebtary and edited videos soon if i can grab 100 total subs
18:29 <Cepheid> I don't see what you're referencing in that video
18:30 <Cepheid> There's no robe seen at 43:49 or after that.
18:30 <Lunanightwind> At 43:49 the guys robe watch the full entrance his entire left side of the robe is like stuck to itself
18:30 <Cepheid> There's no robe.
18:30 <Cepheid> I just see a suit.
18:31 <Lunanightwind> Oh wait i gave the wrong time stamp hold kn
18:31 <LibrarianofHope> saw it
18:31 <Lunanightwind> 44;57 sorry
18:31 <LibrarianofHope> its clipping a lot
18:32 <LibrarianofHope> mankind is still on the wwe? i loved that guy
18:32 <LibrarianofHope> he is mick foley , if memory serves
18:33 <Cepheid> Ah, yeah, I see it now.
18:33 <Lunanightwind> Yeah foley retired a long time ago he was a pre order DLC bonus
18:33 <Cepheid> Hum. Could actually be a driver issue, that one. Unlikely, though.
18:33 <Lunanightwind> Him the rock chyna and hulk hogan were bonus characters
18:33 <LibrarianofHope> foley was hardcore, i rember seeing some of his japanese matchs
18:34 <Lunanightwind> Its on all 3 platforms cepheid
18:34 <Cepheid> Ah.
18:34 <Cepheid> So yeah, programming bug, then.
18:34 <Cepheid> Or model issue.
18:34 <Lunanightwind> Like that specific one was captured on PC but i know the issue is there on ps4 and xb1 too
18:34 <Lunanightwind> Brb husband calling
18:35 <Cepheid> Oh my GODS, stop with all the pain, dizziness, nausea and other problems, you bloody friggen sinus infection of mine! I've been on these antibiotics for a week now, try receding for a bit. @3@;
18:35 * Cepheid goes to do something he shouldn't in an attempt to help it go away.
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18:41 <Lunanightwind> Blah ive been sick for like a month now and im getting real tired of it
18:41 <LibrarianofHope> its cold season, or flu
18:42 <LibrarianofHope> never been sure of the difference
18:45 <Lunanightwind> Ive had a headache like every day since i got back from my honeymoon and been nauseous most days but the last week ive been getting my butt kicked by a nasty cold
18:46 <Cepheid> I've got a chronic sinus infection, but for reasons unknown, it's gotten worse. Much worse.
18:46 <LibrarianofHope> maybe your meds are hurting yout stomach? i just got out of my cold and the antibiotics played havoc on my stomach
18:46 <Cepheid> It's resulted in inner ear infections, and is also attacking my lungs.
18:51 <Lunanightwind> Idk if that was at me LibrarianofHope but i doubt it i havent had any changes to my meds in the last 6 months
18:52 <LibrarianofHope> might just be a bad streak
18:53 <Lunanightwind> Yeah im hoping as much but i feel like i shoukd go to a doctor at this point
18:53 <DashedRainbows> they're useless
18:54 <DashedRainbows> I mean rather that it won't help much
18:54 <DashedRainbows> usually they'll try te wait it out
18:55 <Cepheid> ...
18:55 <Cepheid> I should have done a nasal rinse sooner.
18:56 <Cepheid> The moment I did it, and forced some water up there, my right ear, which had been blocked for the last week, just outright emptied out.
18:56 <Ali> Huh
18:56 <Ali> But know you'll get a sinus issue cause you flushed your nose Cepheid
18:58 <Cepheid> That's why I counter it with a nasal spray afterward. That said..
18:58 <Cepheid> I really don't think I have much of a choice right now.
18:58 <Cepheid> I'm currently developing a lung infection because I'm not doing the nasal rinse to stop all the post-nasal drip that flows into my lungs.
19:02 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: How My Little Pony Impacted Me! - The Submissions Part 3 [ http://tinyurl.com/y55bc9et ]
19:04 <Cepheid> I'm more worried of the idea that maybe this infection of mine is getting resistant to antibiotics.
19:04 * PinkieShy hands Ali some Apple slices and carrots
19:05 * Ali noms food from PinkieShy
19:05 * DashedRainbows also offers a side of hay
19:05 <DashedRainbows> horseys like that
19:07 <Lunanightwind> Im debating if there are any other games coming up that i should consider streaming
19:07 <PinkieShy> Hay Hey Hae.
19:08 * DashedRainbows also offers hay to PinkieShy
19:11 <Lunanightwind> Im really on the fence on if i wanna do anything with death stranding
19:12 <Lunanightwind> On one hand KOJIMA but on the other had weirs
19:12 <Lunanightwind> Weird
19:22 <LibrarianofHope> when has kojima not been weird?
19:22 <LibrarianofHope> also maic baby talks via the controller
19:24 <Lunanightwind> Yeah i can deal with that even if im livestreaming i can say what the controller says
19:24 <Lunanightwind> Im not sure about even buying it its just a weird looking game
19:24 <Lunanightwind> And i know its not metal gear
19:25 <Lunanightwind> I love kojima but like usually not outside of metal gear
19:25 <LibrarianofHope> wait for the reviews and decide with proepr information
19:25 <LibrarianofHope> im thinking if getting it for my bro on his birthday
19:25 <LibrarianofHope> he is a big kojima fan
19:26 <Lunanightwind> Hey if i waited for reviews i wouldnt have bought wwe 2k20 lol
19:26 <LibrarianofHope> yep, more tp my favor
19:26 <Lunanightwind> Like im a kojima super fan i skipped school when metal gear solid 3 came out
19:26 <LibrarianofHope> me and my bro too
19:26 <LibrarianofHope> owo
19:27 <LibrarianofHope> fun times
19:27 <Lunanightwind> Heck i have the collectors edition of MGS 5
19:27 <LibrarianofHope> the hand one?
19:27 <Lunanightwind> the one with the robot hand
19:27 <Lunanightwind> Preordered the game 8 months early to get it
19:27 <LibrarianofHope> have you used it for gime me a hand jokes?
19:28 <Lunanightwind> And that was a preorder i had to pay in full immediately
19:28 <Lunanightwind> No it usually holds a ps4 controller though
19:28 <LibrarianofHope> i havent reallt played anything since fire emblem three houses
19:28 <LibrarianofHope> mostly cause my thumb is hurt and its expensive
19:28 * Ali boops Lunanightwind, thou shall not pre order games.
19:29 * LibrarianofHope gives ali magic kojima baby on a jar
19:29 <Lunanightwind> https://imgur.com/gFAgICu
19:29 * Ali puffycheeks at LibrarianofHope
19:30 * Lunanightwind goes against ali and preorders ALL THE GAMES
19:30 <LibrarianofHope> what? he is alive, he talks and stuff
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19:31 <LibrarianofHope> i still need to raise like 200 bucks for my book cover owo
19:31 <Lunanightwind> Like the enemys in death stranding remind me of the skull units in phantom pain
19:32 <Lunanightwind> God i hate my husband
19:32 <LibrarianofHope> why?
19:32 <Lunanightwind> He just asked what i want for christmas and gave me a price limit and is refusing to take surprise me as an answer
19:33 <LibrarianofHope> practical man
19:33 <Lunanightwind> I dont know what i want for christmas
19:33 * Ali sits on Lunanightwind
19:34 <LibrarianofHope> i want a miniature
19:34 <Lunanightwind> I know what im getting him for Hanukkah so thats a plus at least
19:35 * Lunanightwind is sat upon
19:35 <LibrarianofHope> ill tell my bro to get me commander farsight or the celestant prime
19:35 <LibrarianofHope> or something from the new event , if i like the stuff
19:35 <Lunanightwind> Like if i wanted to go overkill on my computer i could ask for a processor upgrade but im already sitting on an i7 8700k
19:35 * DashedRainbows barks at Lunanightwind and wags her tail
19:36 <Lunanightwind> Like i could upgrade it to an i9 9900k if i wanted to but meh
19:36 * Ali sads on Lunanightwind that she didn't get the pony playmats. She has a fleeting chance tonight to see if someone else was able to grab one but...her expectations are low.
19:36 <LibrarianofHope> https://www.instagram.com/p/B38BYfzAKa5/?utm_source=ig_web_options_share_sheet
19:36 <LibrarianofHope> made that guy recently, properly soppoy
19:36 <LibrarianofHope> spoppy
19:37 <Lunanightwind> Pony playmats?
19:37 <PinkieShy> Getting back into the mojo of wanting to make YT videos :)
19:37 <PinkieShy> VRChat seems to be a popular video topic for my channel..
19:37 <Lunanightwind> Pinkieshy what kinda vids do you make?
19:37 <PinkieShy> So Give the viewers what they want.. :3
19:37 <LibrarianofHope> vrchat is great if properly edited
19:37 <PinkieShy> I make gameplay videos :D
19:38 <PinkieShy> So far I'm just doing videos of the halloween maps people are making..
19:38 <Lunanightwind> Hey i have vr chat lets collaborate lol jk jk i only have 80 subs
19:38 <PinkieShy> 69 subs here
19:38 <Lunanightwind> Nice
19:38 <Lunanightwind> Want number 70?
19:38 <LibrarianofHope> i have like 10, which is baffling cause i have no content except a video
19:38 <DashedRainbows> sometimes I feel like I'm the weird one for being the only one here who games moderately o3o
19:39 <PinkieShy> Probably 68subs soon though (Knowing somebody that was once a friend subbed to me in the past but she recently unfriended me, got others to unfriend and called me the one that is silent like 90% of the time annoying)
19:39 <Lunanightwind> Pinkieshy drop your link ill sub i sit around watching youtube all day when im not making videos
19:39 <Lunanightwind> Like my life is youtube
19:40 <Lunanightwind> That and loving on my dog
19:40 <Lunanightwind> Cuz well whatelse am i gonna do when husbando is at work
19:40 <LibrarianofHope> have i ever shown you my akita inus?
19:41 <LibrarianofHope> https://youtu.be/nYYLyCp3HSM
19:42 <Lunanightwind> https://imgur.com/a/uWVf8lT my doggo
19:42 <LibrarianofHope> owo, he looks sassy
19:42 <LibrarianofHope> cute boi
19:42 <Lunanightwind> Hes got the zoomies
19:43 <LibrarianofHope> its a girl, she is always zoomie
19:43 <LibrarianofHope> i telling her we are going to give her a bath, she thinks its walkies time and goes zommies
19:43 <Lunanightwind> Im hoping getting him fixed will calm him down
19:44 <LibrarianofHope> probably
19:45 <Lunanightwind> I will say when mommy sits in her gaming chair he goes and lays down either on a blanket i leave on the floor next to the tv or in his bed
19:45 <Lunanightwind> He knows that chair means serious time for mommy
19:45 <LibrarianofHope> good boi
19:45 <Lunanightwind> Yeah now if he would only use his puppy pads and not poop on the floor
19:46 <LibrarianofHope> that takes time
19:46 <Lunanightwind> Or at least lemme know when he needs to go out
19:46 <Lunanightwind> Its been 2 months
19:47 <LibrarianofHope> took like 5 with my akitas
19:47 <Lunanightwind> I swear all he knows is his name at this point
19:47 <LibrarianofHope> the trick is giving him praise or treats when he poops on the area you want
19:48 <LibrarianofHope> and tell him he did wrong if he doesnt inmediatly
19:48 <LibrarianofHope> hell get the connection eventually
19:49 <Lunanightwind> Holy crap he just ran out so fast he pulled the leash out of my hand
19:49 <LibrarianofHope> big zoomie
19:56 <Cepheid> Meanwhile my cats don't care. I can't use treats either.
19:56 <Cepheid> My mother and father give the cats treats in the morning and evening. They get them whether or not they do anything to deserve them.
19:56 <Cepheid> So giving treats is... Not encouragement.
19:57 <Cepheid> A better approach for me at this point would be to like, keep frozen, diced red meat, defrost a bit each day, and use that as their encouragement.
20:02 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Wat: Changeling [ http://tinyurl.com/yywlrndx ]
20:10 * DashedRainbows snifffs around. sprays air freshner
20:21 * DashedRainbows flops over Ali making bored horse noises
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20:22 <PinkieShy> ...
20:22 <PinkieShy> So i saw something at the store yesterday..
20:23 <PinkieShy> Myrtle Beach opoly
20:23 <DashedRainbows> hmm
20:23 <DashedRainbows> seems legit
20:28 <PinkieShy> One of the places you could buy on the monopoly game thing was something called redneck..
20:29 <PinkieShy> and then there was another place it showed on the box that showed boiled peanuts.
20:29 <DashedRainbows> lol
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21:00 <Cepheid> That sinus infection is really trying to win it's little war.
21:00 <Cepheid> I did a nasal rinse, applied double dose of nasal spray, took some tylenol. The infection is struggling to fight back. Gets worse, gets better, gets worse, gets better, nausea, gas buildup in stomach, gets worse, gets better, dizziness spell, warping vision..
21:01 <Cepheid> https://twitter.com/Mr_Meowwwgi/status/1187468465193406470
21:02 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: New Update Released for Ponyvania - Bat Ponies, Foals, New Areas, Bosses, and More [ http://tinyurl.com/yyd6gmcf ]
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21:35 <Cepheid> It's too bad that treating the infection like an aggressive cancer, and applying chemo/radiation therapy to kill the bacteria wouldn't work. But I don't think it works that way anyways.
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21:51 <Starlight_Glimmer> NCMares is making some questionable art decisions :(
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21:56 <Cepheid> Oh?
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22:02 <lunanightwindphone> Hey
22:07 * Cepheid twitches.
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22:25 <Cepheid> You know, I want to sit downstairs, among my parents, I really do.
22:26 <Cepheid> But how am I supposed to when the crap they watch is agitating as hell? I mean, seriously, it's either news about stupid bullcrap people are doing, like inexplicably WANTING TO GO AS TRUDEAU IN BLACKFACE FOR HALLOWEEN, "comedy" shows which are actually just really annoying stereotyping shows, or bullcrap involving Donald Trump speaking for more than a second.
22:30 <LunaNightwind> ooph that sounds brutal
22:39 * Cepheid sighs. Goes upstairs. Is getting so agitated he needs to get away.
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22:42 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Fanfiction: The Only Tree in the Forest (Update Complete!) [ http://tinyurl.com/yy8hgt7n ]
22:49 * LibrarianofHope pokes ali
22:49 <LibrarianofHope> poke poke
22:53 * DashedRainbows chews on LibrarianofHope
22:53 * LibrarianofHope dances thriller
22:53 <LibrarianofHope> uhhh
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23:02 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Drawfriend Stuff (Pony Art Gallery) #3140 [ http://tinyurl.com/y52bunb3 ]
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23:14 <LibrarianofHope> my doggie came to visit at the office
23:15 <DashedRainbows> yay doggo
23:15 * DashedRainbows licks LibrarianofHope
23:36 <Cepheid> I wonder if there are non-prescription contact lenses I can get that match my prescription strength, so I can test something out.
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23:36 <Angeline> Oh my sweet goodness
23:37 <Angeline> I just found out Star Wars has crystal foxes
23:37 <Angeline> and I need fifty
23:37 <LibrarianofHope> i does?
23:38 <Angeline> https://cdn.collider.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/star-wars-the-last-jedi-vulptex.jpg
23:38 * Angeline flailyhooves
23:38 <LibrarianofHope> yay
23:38 * LibrarianofHope falilybooks
23:40 <Cepheid> Hum. Apparently, contact lenses are, for all intents and purposes, unlimited for people with nearsightedness.
23:40 <Cepheid> So my -5.50 prescription is definitely possible.
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