00:00 <Cepheid> Heh.
00:02 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Discussion: What Was A Location You Wish we Visited More of in Friendship is Magic? [ http://tinyurl.com/yxm59mtu ]
00:19 * DashedRainbows pounces on Ali and licks her a lot
00:19 * Ali squeaks
00:20 * DashedRainbows offers her Ali squeaky toy
00:23 * PinkieShy puts out a plate of hot just out of the oven cheesey breadsticks and puts it near DashedRainbows
00:29 * DashedRainbows eagerly noms then jumps at PinkieShy
00:46 <PinkieShy> I wish i had some hot cheeto fries..
00:46 <PinkieShy> That would be enough to wake me up :P
00:46 <PinkieShy> Maybe i can as my dad to bring me some when he gets off work.. They be only $2
00:46 <PinkieShy> so yay :P
00:51 <PinkieShy> Okay.. I'm clearly smart off to not get ripped off by this credit account website..
00:52 <PinkieShy> Nintendo switch at $429 while walmart has the switch about $300
00:57 <ADragonDreaming> Switch retails at $299.99, yeah.
00:57 <ADragonDreaming> what do you mean by a "Credit account website"
01:07 <PinkieShy> websites like Fingerhut, Gettington and such..
01:07 * ADragonDreaming stares blankly.
01:14 <Reiko> Huh
01:57 * DashedRainbows tests the autobooper on PinkieShy's horn
02:02 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Nightly Discussion #1960 [ http://tinyurl.com/y27oszx6 ]
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02:59 <Schism> Oh damn and blast. Okay, back to life I am. This is probably for the best.
03:00 * Schism grumbles, then boops Cepheid with a small representation of a village in the jungle which is doing its best to murder Leon Kennedy.
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03:09 * DashedRainbows sits on Ali. giddy up?
03:21 * Schism decides to watch Good Omens.
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03:42 <Schism> I'm really, really enjoying Good Omens. X3
03:42 <Schism> The Amazon series is really true to the book.
03:56 * Ali noms on Schism ears
04:02 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Makenshi: Scootaloo Tribute Reimagining Music: Marcus Warner - First Flight 2019 [Orchestral] [ http://tinyurl.com/yxua47fj ]
04:07 * DashedRainbows sads on Ali
04:07 * Ali sads with DashedRainbows
04:09 <DashedRainbows> what's your reason?
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04:24 <Ali> Typically lonely
04:25 <DashedRainbows> ah, same but also other stuff
04:25 <DashedRainbows> existential growl
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04:27 <DashedRainbows> I'm just broken now, nothing makes me happy longer than a minute
04:44 * Filly_Nightmares kneads DashedRainbows
04:44 * Filly_Nightmares climbs onto
04:44 <DashedRainbows> meh
04:45 * DashedRainbows picks up the Filly_Nightmares
04:51 * Filly_Nightmares purrs and licks DashedRainbows
04:53 * DashedRainbows boops the pony and let's her go
04:55 * Filly_Nightmares mewls and climbs onto DashedRainbows again!
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04:56 * DashedRainbows gives the Filly_Nightmares to Ali
04:56 * Ali nopes and gives Filly_Nightmares back to DashedRainbows, its her little ball of eeeee to worry about now :P
04:57 * Filly_Nightmares eeees at Ali and then kneads DashedRainbows!
04:58 <DashedRainbows> hmm
04:59 * DashedRainbows sits on the filly
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05:44 * DashedRainbows boops Ali's horn with the autobooper
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06:00 * DashedRainbows sits and wags her tail
06:15 * Schism gasps in shock at a news article.
06:16 <Schism> It transpires that Google- and Amazon-approved apps are being used to turn Alexa and Google Home devices into spies which could monitor passwords and sensitive detail.
06:16 <Schism> Who could have EVER seen this coming?!
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06:24 <Ali> NO WAY
06:24 <Ali> Who would ever THINK that having everything electronic could get HACKED
06:24 <Schism> I KNOW! Who could have foreseen it?!
06:24 <Ali> I mean it was stupid
06:24 <Ali> We got a new furnace/ac unit put in over last week
06:25 <Ali> And they wanted to put a thermostat in that could be connected to Wifi
06:25 <Ali> I was like, do you have one WITHOUT that?
06:25 <Ali> Sadly they didn't, but you can tell it not to connect
06:25 <Schism> Ahahaha NO, I forget what those thermostats are called....
06:25 <Ali> Manuals :P
06:25 <Schism> No, I mean the 'smart' ones. NEST, that's the brand.
06:25 <Ali> I don't want some *yay* screwing around with my thermostat
06:26 <Ali> Tech has a place, but I don't think EVERYTHING needs it
06:26 <Schism> Because if they can, they will, yeah.
06:26 * Ali snuggles into Schism
06:27 * Schism puts a Pikachu beanie atop Ali's hat, to help keep her warm.
06:27 <Schism> atop Ali's head*
06:27 * Ali ish too warm already, she doesn't need more warmth.
06:27 * Schism opens a window next to Ali then. And wonders why Ali is snuggling up, if she's already warmish.
06:28 <Ali> Cause lonely
06:28 * Schism puts a plush Tonberry next to Ali, too.
06:28 * Ali nuuu's, she doesn't want to die
06:28 <Schism> But, but! https://s.pacn.ws/640/iq/final-fantasy-stuffed-plush-doll-tonberry-rerun-337247.2.jpg?o30nqs Look how adorbs it is!
06:30 <Ali> Yes and if a tonberry gets right next to you, it murders you
06:30 * Ali remembers this from all about FF7's random battles
06:30 <Schism> Only if it's a feral Tonberry. The other ones are quite friendly, if still murderous. Lumindia and Koopz can back me up here.
06:32 * Ali will still keep her distance.
06:34 <Schism> Next you'll be telling me that you don't want to hug a cactuar.
06:38 * Ali will hug her Twilight plushie instead.
06:38 * DashedRainbows licks Ali excitedly
06:39 * Ali squeaks at DashedRainbows
06:40 * DashedRainbows sniffs the Ali-corn
06:43 * Ali smells like unicorn, very bland unicorn
06:44 <DashedRainbows> ;(
06:45 <DashedRainbows> I'm too sad to sleep sigh
06:47 *** Changeling_Nightmares is now known as Filly_Nightmares
06:47 * Filly_Nightmares kneads DashedRainbows wif wuv
06:49 * DashedRainbows plays with the Filly_Nightmares like a toy airplane
06:50 * Filly_Nightmares eees and flappies her wingies out of sync!
06:50 * Schism rolls in, and offers pones some cranberry-vanilla cashew muffins.
06:51 * DashedRainbows lets go
06:53 * Schism sets a muffin in Filly_Nightmares' landing zone.
06:53 * Filly_Nightmares eeees and nomfs muffin!
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06:59 <Golden> Eeeee
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07:02 * Schism passes Golden some gingerbreads with a lime and chili icing.
07:04 * DashedRainbows is going to go cry herself to sleep again. Night
07:05 * Schism awrfs, hugs the DashedRainbows. :<
07:05 * Golden happily takes some.
07:08 * Filly_Nightmares mewls
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07:33 <Finwe> Good morning, everypony!
07:34 <Schism> rAdm. Finwe.
07:34 <Finwe> Messrs Golden, Schism, Cepheid; Mlles DashedRainbows, Filly_Nightmares and lunanightwindphone.
07:34 * Schism doffs his pita bread with tsatziki.
07:34 * Finwe doffs his hat.
07:35 <Golden> Hi
07:38 <Schism> Finwe: Is this not adorable? https://s.pacn.ws/640/iq/final-fantasy-stuffed-plush-doll-tonberry-rerun-337247.2.jpg?o30nqs
07:42 <Finwe> I already checked that out and foudn it quite adorable.
07:42 <Finwe> *found
08:07 <Schism> "Well, for one thing, my presence here is a statement in and of itself. A changeling acting openly, freely, undisguised? Madness personified. I get dividends on my investment, though. Everybody's so curious about my next move that they don't quite grok that my next move is to make them curious."
08:10 <Schism> And aye, Finwe. o3o
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08:22 <Schism> ... okay. I appreciate that it's an old port, but RE4 having software mouse is... it feels incredibly sluggish.
08:24 <Finwe> Old port is often considered to taste better than young port.
08:24 <Schism> It is a matter of taste. o3o;
08:24 <Schism> Old port is a bit more sluggish to pour, too.
08:25 <Finwe> True.
08:28 <Schism> ... huh. Halloween and a friend have provided me with a possible indie game idea.
08:37 <Schism> Zombie Packing Simulator.
08:46 <Schism> The idea is, of course, palpably silly. A set of zombies want to find their way over the ocean, so they've decided to fly coach, and parse themselves as luggage. Your goal, as the overlord, is to fit them into the various luggage arrangements so that they can start an undead uprising.
08:49 <Schism> Also, many of them will want their pets, so you'll have to fill a 4x4 cube (a 'pet carrier') with tetrominoes made of undead animals for bonus points. o3o;
08:52 <Schism> Dunno if it would spark any interest. It's a standard indie puzzler with a horror game theme, it's kind of meh.
09:43 <Schism> Ali. This game is very silly.
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09:52 * Schism flops on Ali.
09:52 <Schism> There is a lack of Ali right now. :<
10:04 <Schism> It is a pity. Cute unicorns are in short order.
10:15 <Finwe> The absent unicorn ish not cute. o3o
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10:42 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Rainbow Roadtrip Gets a DVD Cover [ http://tinyurl.com/yylfr6mp ]
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11:40 * uni flops
11:42 <Finwe> Mr uni.
11:43 * Finwe doffs his hat.
11:46 <uni> salutations, RAdm. Finwe
11:46 * uni salutes smartly
11:46 <uni> permission to request rank change to Pte uni, sir
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13:02 * Filly_Nightmares climbs onto uni!
13:02 * Filly_Nightmares eees at Finwe and then climbs onto him!
13:02 * Filly_Nightmares purrrr
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13:08 * Lumindia bellyrubs the Surry
13:08 <Lumindia> O wO
13:12 * Filly_Nightmares leg kickies at skreeee at Lumindia!
13:14 * Finwe offers a cup of hot chocolate seasoned with cinnamon to Filly_Nightmares.
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13:35 * Lumindia wub
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13:40 <Cepheid> "Removed ability to use Firewood while in the middle of camping, thus starting a new camp. You can no longer camp, while you camp, even though you all like to camp."
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13:56 <ADragonDreaming> Pelican Town music makes me think of Chrono Trigger.
13:59 <Finwe> Hmm...
13:59 <Finwe> It was raining earlier today, but now the rain has turned into snow.
13:59 * Finwe throws a snowball at ADragonDreaming.
14:00 <ADragonDreaming> It is October. This is a thing that is known to happen this time of year.
14:00 * ADragonDreaming eats it.
14:00 <Finwe> o3o
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14:21 <Cepheid> "What are these things?" "Erm, books?" "Oh, so these are books. I only ever read about them." "..."
14:21 <Cepheid> The sad thing is, this can happen.
14:25 <ADragonDreaming> Star Wars is a paperless society.
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14:42 <Cepheid> Ours is turning into one as well.
14:50 <Cepheid> As fort where that quote came from... Idle game I started playing to temporarily distract myself.
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14:55 <Moongoodboy> I mean, this is a good thing
14:55 <Moongoodboy> deforestation is :(
14:57 <Cepheid> Arguably it is difficult to tell which us better due to lack of further analysis.
14:59 <Cepheid> Think of it this way. Electronics use electricity. Electricity itself is generated through destructive processes in a majority of cases. Coal power plants. Gasoline power plants. Even clean sources, such as hydroelectric causes long-term damage to everything behind the dam. Nuclear leaves behind radioactive waste that we don't know how to dispose of..
15:01 <Cepheid> All of this contributes to some sort of pollution dangerous to humans and animals alike. Akin to deforestation. Even making paper from recycled products or sustainable wood sources is a problem.
15:06 <Cepheid> So, essentially, no matter what you do, you're screwed. At least, if you keep using modern processes. I have no evidence to support my claims, but I would imagine some of the older, "traditional" manners of creating paper might be cleaner, as they don't use the more advanced, higher-output processes we have today, or possibly the chemicals.
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15:07 <Cepheid> The problem here is in the key phrase "higher-output." As humanity continues to grow, we have to apply newer and newer processes to improve the output. This often comes with a trade-off of increased pollution or electricity usage.
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15:13 <Moongoodboy> X.X
15:14 <Cepheid> So, ultimately, if you want to improve the cleanliness and environmentalism of everything we do, there's two choices.
15:15 <Cepheid> Research and use new technologies that have been proven to be cleaner, at increased cost to the public because in order to get it out there and usable by the public, we may have to replace existing infrastructure, which is EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE to do..
15:15 <DashedRainbows> Alive
15:16 <Cepheid> Or, in a much colder, cruel approach, the various countries in the world stop interfering when war, famine and various atrocities occur, and slow the world population growth.
15:16 <Cepheid> Because as the population increases, we have to expand production to account for it.
15:16 <Cepheid> Which directly results in increased pollution and consumption of raw materials.
15:20 <ADragonDreaming> Deforestation is actually more caused by agriculture than by paper products.
15:21 <ADragonDreaming> At least in North America
15:21 <Cepheid> Mmhmm.
15:21 <Cepheid> Up here, paper is often the product of recycled goods or sustainable wood sources.
15:22 <ADragonDreaming> right. North American logging companies tend to farm the forest.
15:22 <Cepheid> That is, specifically-planted forests of trees, such that when a tree is cut down, they plant a sapling in it's place.
15:22 <Cepheid> I've seen a few of these forests. They stand out.
15:22 <Cepheid> In nature, trees never line up perfectly that you can look at them and see a straight path from one end to the other.
15:23 <ADragonDreaming> Even if they're logging natural growth, there is (due to various regulations) an approach of "make sure the forest still exists and replant"
15:23 <ADragonDreaming> in some cases logged forests can wind up healthier.
15:23 <Cepheid> Mmhmm.
15:24 <Cepheid> I won't deny humans are impacting forest growth and such, but a lot of stuff that happens to them, happens whether we're involved or not, as well.
15:24 <ADragonDreaming> Paper, additionally, has a low environmental impact as a product. It needs no power, once made, to continue to store and display information. As waste, it is quickly biodegradable, and with a minimum power need for it.
15:24 <Cepheid> Even if we didn't cut down trees, trees would still be felled, by lightning strikes, high winds, damage from insets, rotting.
15:24 <ADragonDreaming> If you compare paper to plastic, paper wins.
15:24 <Cepheid> Hell, there's a species of animal who's sole purpose is to cut down trees and make wooden dams out of them.
15:24 <ADragonDreaming> get paper bags.
15:25 <Cepheid> Forest fires would still happen too, even if we stopped everything that could cause them.
15:25 <ADragonDreaming> overfighting of forest fires creates worse fires.
15:25 <Cepheid> Overall, we're just adding to an existing problem.
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15:27 <Cepheid> How much we're adding to it, I don't rightly know. Science and history might have information that could help us glean an answer, but I just know that, without humans, many of these things would still happen.
15:28 <Cepheid> Hell, and I hate to say this as I don't know of a better way to express it in a way that suggests that I know humans are definitely affecting it, but climate change is also a natural process. We cannot stop it. It would not stop, even if every human on the planet disappeared all at once.
15:28 <ADragonDreaming> ehhh
15:28 <Cepheid> In fact, I imagine stopping it would only make things just as bad as accelerating it.
15:28 <Cepheid> ADragonDreaming, look at the glacier cycles.
15:28 <ADragonDreaming> No, I understand where you're coming from
15:29 <Cepheid> Earth has gone through cooling and warming patterns, which indicates what's happening now, has happened in the past, albiet at a much slower pace
15:29 <ADragonDreaming> but the problem is that humanity has drastically altered the rate and even possibly the course of said change.
15:29 <Cepheid> Hence "it happened in the past at a much slower pace"
15:29 <ADragonDreaming> yes. It's not an inaccurate statement
15:29 <Cepheid> The reality is that, even without humans, there are still things creating emissions out there.
15:30 <Cepheid> Animal deaths causes decomposition, which releases various gasses. Animal leavings, which emit methane. Volcanic eruptions pouring contaminants into the ocean and the atmosphere.
15:30 <ADragonDreaming> The issue I have with bringing that up is that it can easily be used to dismiss that there's a problem.
15:31 <Cepheid> That's true. People have done that.
15:31 <Cepheid> But we are accelerating it, and there's no telling what that acceleration will do in the short- and long-term.
15:31 <ADragonDreaming> There is telling, actually.
15:31 <Cepheid> Plus, some of the components causing it are not the same as in the past.
15:31 <ADragonDreaming> A bunch of people will die.
15:31 <Cepheid> This much is true.
15:32 <Cepheid> But I meant beyond affecting the lives and deaths of species.
15:32 <ADragonDreaming> A lot of the biodiversity of the planet will be gone, given that the rate of change is too great for adaptation to take place.
15:33 <Cepheid> That one I'm a bit... split on, for analysis reasons.
15:33 <Cepheid> Animals, humans and the like, yes, that will be affected due to lack of time for adaptation.
15:33 <ADragonDreaming> many species of plants as well.
15:33 <Cepheid> I am not 100% sold on that, exactly.
15:33 <ADragonDreaming> Many, not all
15:34 <Cepheid> When you consider that mass global freezings have happened in the past, it's possible plant life has ways of surviving such freezing as is.
15:34 <ADragonDreaming> well, yes
15:34 <ADragonDreaming> the diversity is what reduces.
15:34 <Cepheid> Mmhmm.
15:34 <ADragonDreaming> which is what I said originally
15:34 <Cepheid> Right, right.
15:35 * ADragonDreaming donates an Ancient Seed
15:35 <Cepheid> It's a complex issue, because I can see one problem related to your statement, combined with biodegredation and historical documentation.
15:35 <Cepheid> But I have no proof to my problem, so..
15:35 <Cepheid> No point in bringing it up.
15:43 <Cepheid> That said, I will anyways. Basic gist, from a simplified analytical view, is that there's no documentation from the previous freeze/thaw periods. I know fossils can be left behind, as can leavings and frozen corpses, and other forms of evidence, but there's a thing that bugs me.
15:45 <Cepheid> Small life dies off, degrades, before it gets frozen, and nothing may be left behind. And the cycle happens quite a number of years apart, something like a few tens of thousands of years. I am aware it's not enough time for evolution to kick in. But wouldn't it be possible for a small number of interbreeding species to suddenly appear and re-expand the diversity in a few thousand years?
15:46 <Cepheid> I mean, as it is, we know animals can generate new breeds through interspecies mating. And for trees and plants, you can pollinate manually, or apply cuttings from one plant to another to create new breeds.
15:46 <ADragonDreaming> I don't know about a few thousand, but, even if that is the case...
15:47 * Surreal_Nightmares purrs and curls up on ADragonDreaming and goes nap!
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15:47 <ADragonDreaming> Species from prior to the die-off are still dead
15:47 <Cepheid> And yet, there is a problem.
15:47 <ADragonDreaming> And in this particular circumstance, us.
15:48 <Cepheid> I prefer to hold optimism that humanity would survive the climate change disaster awaiting us, if we don't somehow stop it.
15:48 <Cepheid> That said, I won't lie, I honestly think a lot of people will die regardless.
15:48 <ADragonDreaming> Potentially
15:48 <ADragonDreaming> in terms of survival
15:48 <Cepheid> So yeah, I'd prefer that we stop or slow it.
15:48 <ADragonDreaming> Exactly
15:49 <Cepheid> In terms of survival, humanity will be reduced to a fraction of it's "former glory" so to speak.
15:49 <ADragonDreaming> the thing is, these points are all beside the main thing
15:49 <Cepheid> Lots of life other than humans will die off and disappear, I am aware of this fact.
15:51 <Cepheid> Remember, I'm not saying climate change isn't being accelerated by humans, I know it is. I'm just... looking at the whole problem from a perspective that's too large for me to handle or grasp
15:51 <Cepheid> I know what will happen if we don't steer the course away.
15:51 <Cepheid> What I'm more concerned about as a whole, is what happens if we steer the course too far away as well.
15:51 <Cepheid> And what we learn from this.
15:52 <Cepheid> We need to document as much as possible on what happens from this. It'd be the first time in humanity's existence that we encountered it. And in the future, if we somehow encounter it again, we could use this information to better handle it.
15:53 <Cepheid> Even if humanity doesn't survive, and other than us does survive, I'd at least want to do something for a future sentient race that rises upon the planet.
15:53 <Cepheid> Leave behind information, tell them what happens if the planet is not taken care of.
15:54 <Cepheid> Had our ancestors, hundreds, thousands of years ago known, I imagine things would have gone better. Though that's a dim hope, because thousands of years is a lot for things to change.
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15:54 <Cepheid> We could have simply forgotten the information over those thousands of years. Lost in the constant war, conquering, rising and fall of empires.
15:56 * DashedRainbows ponies around
15:56 <Cepheid> In any case, as stated, I have no evidence to support what I am saying. It's just me over-analyzing into things as I normally do
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15:56 <Cepheid> Sometimes I wonder if this over-analysis is a good or bad thing.
15:56 <ADragonDreaming> Depends on how it is used.
15:58 * Ali yawns on Cepheid and ADragonDreaming and gets ready for handegg.
16:02 <Lumindia> https://twitter.com/cb_0_/status/1188478804106207232?s=19 @Schism
16:02 <Lumindia> l i t t l e s u n
16:02 * Ali sits on Lumindia
16:03 <Lumindia> wau
16:04 * Lumindia is sat upon by a C U T E P O N Y
16:04 <Lumindia> >:3
16:05 * Ali baps Lumindia, she's not cute.
16:05 <Lumindia> callin' ya out, Ali
16:05 <Lumindia> = w=
16:06 <Cepheid> ADragonDreaming: I'd argue it's bad overall.
16:06 <Cepheid> Over-analysis can result in seeing multiple paths or choices one can take. And often, those paths all have roughly similar levels of viability and desirability.
16:06 <Cepheid> Long story short, you get locked up.
16:15 * Ali yawns and flops over Cepheid for huggles
16:15 * Cepheid hugs.
16:19 * Lumindia pest Ali
16:19 <Lumindia> pets*
16:19 <Lumindia> NO!
16:19 <Lumindia> Ali is NOT a pest! D:
16:19 <Lumindia> Bad fingers!
16:19 <Lumindia> Bad!
16:19 * Ali pouts at Lumindia
16:19 * Cepheid is annoyed.
16:20 <Ali> You could go mass murder bugs :P
16:20 <Cepheid> Ali, do you remember what I said a few weeks ago, despite me saying I didn't mean it, etc? :P
16:21 * Ali is a bit dense. She also doesn't like to play Factorio alone as she does brain fart a lot.
16:21 <Cepheid> Basically, I was complaining because you kept poking me to play Factorio, and that it got a tad annoying. :P
16:22 <Ali> I thought I've been a bit quiet about that over the weeks...
16:24 <Cepheid> In any case, I'm not being serious right now, just for the record. That said, I also can't play right now.
16:25 <Ali> Not a problem, with handegg coming on soon, I'd be distracted for the next few hours.
16:25 <ADragonDreaming> I'll be occupied come this afternoon.
16:25 <Cepheid> The reasoning has to do with my earlier-mentioned annoyance.
16:25 <Cepheid> Basically, the gist of it is straightforward. I have a group project, and I assigned tasks to my colleagues. They instead have not worked on the group project and have gone off to do their own things.
16:26 <Cepheid> Leaving me to spend a majority of my study time working on the group project so we don't fall behind on the schedule.
16:26 <Ali> Isn't that how group projects work
16:26 <Cepheid> I have an exam on Tuesday that I haven't had much time to study and prepare for(Even if I did, I haven't gotten my assignments back, so I have no idea if I'm doing things right or not.)
16:26 <Ali> Group projects never seem to be about the group, more about lumping most of the work on someone
16:26 <Cepheid> And I have a listening comprehension "test" on Tuesday in Japanese, which I also haven't studied for.
16:27 <Cepheid> Given that, between the three of us, I have a majority of experience in programming..
16:27 <Ali> Then don't worry about Factorio Cepheid, just study and relax on your own ok.
16:27 <Cepheid> Should have gone with my original plan.
16:27 <Cepheid> Explain to the professor that, because of my 22 years of experience in programming, I have a clear edge over the other students, and that for fairness(More selfishness, but excuses excuses), I should work alone.
16:34 <Cepheid> Usually though the argument never works, because it's under the pretense of 'learning to work with a group.'
16:34 <Cepheid> I've worked with a group in the past, several times. In every case it went poorly, I learned nothing, and in the end was told to forget it all anyways.
16:34 <Ali> With most of the group not giving a crap
16:38 <Cepheid> It's not that they don't give a crap. It's just they know I'll do it.
16:43 <Cepheid> I don't get one thing though.
16:44 <Cepheid> Schools talk up and down about fairness amongst students. I have a prior diploma in the field of software/gamedev/computer science, I have 22-23 years of experience writing code in different languages, platforms and the like.
16:45 <Cepheid> Many of the new students in CS or gamedev, are students who, up until college and university, have either never touched a programming language, or at best, got an education in BASIC or some other simple language in an AP course in high school.
16:46 <Cepheid> So, effectively, a relative comparison between me and them is not possible. If we used my current experience as the maximum value, then divided their experience by mine, then scaled by 100, it'd come out to still less than 1%.
16:46 <Cepheid> Adding me to one of their teams is basically a case of giving said team an advantage. I will admit there are exceptions to this, and that I may encounter students better than me, who have more experience, and the like.
16:47 <Cepheid> But it still stands. Any team who takes members that have a lot of prior experience, is getting an advantage.
16:47 <Cepheid> Officially, students with prior experience, prior degrees and diplomas, should be required to work on their own to restore the balance a bit.
16:49 <Cepheid> In any case, it's moot now.
16:50 <Cepheid> Even if I was subjected to that, I still have an advantage now.
16:50 * DashedRainbows chews on the Ali's hooves
16:50 <Cepheid> When I visited the PMC to get registered with them so I could put through an appeal for co-op, the PMC also forced a bunch of stuff on me that I didn't want, that I have to accept.
16:50 * Ali noms on DashedRainbows tail
16:51 <ADragonDreaming> ...private military contractor?
16:51 <Cepheid> Paul Menton Center.
16:51 * DashedRainbows rolls around
16:51 <Cepheid> It's a center for students with disabilities, named after an individual who funded it.
16:53 <Cepheid> Basically, the PMC forced upon me, let's see..
16:54 * DashedRainbows sits on colors on the walls
16:54 <DashedRainbows> and*
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16:54 <Cepheid> Note-takers for all of my classes, 15% extra time on exams, supervised breaks during exams to deal with diabetes, anxiety, and the need to drink excessive amounts of water.
16:54 <Cepheid> Oh, and a quiet room for writing exams.
16:56 <Cepheid> Unfortunately, I *HAD* to accept it, in order to be taken in by the PMC.
16:56 <Cepheid> I have no choice.
16:56 <Cepheid> It's part of the intake process. They can't just take me in and not give me anything in return. Apparently that doesn't look right.
16:58 <Cepheid> They ignored my complaint about how it felt like I was getting an advantage over other students
16:58 <Cepheid> Saying that everyone who goes to the PMC says that, etc, etc, etc.
17:02 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: My Little Pony Comic Dub Compilation #48 [ http://tinyurl.com/y5og5dxm ]
17:05 * Cepheid sighs. Is getting a headache from sinuses, *AND* from stress stuff.
17:05 <Cepheid> As if I don't feel horrible enough today.
17:06 <Cepheid> Gonna go back to the clinic tomorrow or Tuesday, maybe even Wednesday.
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17:40 <Cepheid> So, what's everyone up to?\
17:42 <Ali> Watching handegg
17:43 * DashedRainbows flops over Ali and sighs
17:43 * Ali brushies the DashedRainbows
17:52 <Dranae> Does anypony here like MUDs
17:54 <Cepheid> Pretty sure Schism does.
17:54 * Dranae grabs Schism, starts shaking.
17:58 * Starlight_Glimmer never quite understood the watching sports obsession
18:02 <DashedRainbows> well, I assume they find it pleasurable
18:10 * Cepheid researches perlin and simplex noise.
18:10 * Cepheid suffers +27 stress.
18:11 * Dranae flexes on Cepheid.
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18:14 <Cepheid> I have no idea why you are doing that.
18:15 * Dranae is big and strong griff. Thus, must flex.
18:22 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Fanfiction: Amber Ashes [ http://tinyurl.com/y4a7ydsm ]
18:33 * Cepheid guhs.
18:33 <Dranae> Cepheid, have you seen a golden eagle IRL?
18:33 <Cepheid> No.
18:33 <Dranae> aww
18:33 <Dranae> They are humongous
18:35 <Dranae> https://i.ytimg.com/vi/EpZbr6EnGsU/maxresdefault.jpg [Golden Eagle] [Big Birb]
18:35 <Cepheid> Not 100% certain of this, but I believe eagles are not that common around here.
18:35 <Dranae> Look at the size of it!
18:35 <Cepheid> Heh.
18:37 * Cepheid loads up Darkest Dungeon. All he really feels compelled to play, mostly.
18:43 <Cepheid> ...? This quest doesn't have food provisions..? It's part of DLC, so maybe there's something special.
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18:45 <Cepheid> Ah, I see.
18:45 <Cepheid> It's basically an endless battle.
18:45 <Cepheid> You don't need food because there's no exploration.
18:56 <Cepheid> Well dang. Game tells me I can retreat from combat whenever I want, so I did. It ended the quest, I lost all the rewards. Clearly I didn't retreat properly.
18:58 <Ali> Whoops
19:02 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Magic the Gathering - "Commander Twilight Sparkle" EDH Deck and Analysis! [ http://tinyurl.com/y5zz4o3d ]
19:03 <Ali> Odd I thought silver bordered cards can't be used in any format
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19:12 <Cepheid> The RNG hates me.
19:14 <Cepheid> Oh my gods, how many attacks are going to happen?
19:14 <Ali> You've been slowed
19:14 <Ali> You'll get to attack again in 300 turns
19:16 <Cepheid> Oh gods we survived.
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19:17 <Cepheid> A little over 8000 gold, and everyone who leveled got positive perks. Worth it, I guess?
19:17 <Ali> Hopefully?
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19:20 <Cepheid> Another short, easy quest... get some levels on the newbies.
19:22 * DashedRainbows sits on Ali and makes sad horse noises
19:23 * Ali brushies DashedRainbows more
19:23 <DashedRainbows> I got my medicine finally now if only it actually works for me
19:25 <Cepheid> One more quest, then I'm gonna lay down and read some more.
19:25 <Ali> It won't be immediate DashedRainbows
19:25 * Ali hugs the DashedRainbows to comfort her
19:25 <DashedRainbows> ik
19:26 <DashedRainbows> I mean that I've tried so many already that I'm tired and hopeless
19:26 <Ali> I understand that feeling dear but don't give up.
19:27 <DashedRainbows> yeah
19:28 <DashedRainbows> anyway. later, I'm going to go do some exercise so that should help
19:29 <DashedRainbows> after my mom gets home we go by train
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19:34 <Cepheid> This strikes me as a game I should be playing on the Switch. Laptop's a tad unweildy for it.
19:34 <Cepheid> Also, I have to drop the laptop resolution to like, 768p in order for the game to run well and not kill my laptop.
19:34 <Cepheid> "Yours for the taking..." *It's 25 gold.*
19:36 <Schism> Cepheid: Are you still playing with the beastmaster who's afraid of animals, or are you on a new party now?
19:40 <Cepheid> That wasn't mine.
19:40 <Schism> Oh, okay.
19:41 * Ali flops over Schism
19:43 * Cepheid finishes for the moment.
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19:47 * DashedRainbows licks Ali till she's soaked
19:48 * Ali brushies DashedRainbows
19:49 * DashedRainbows offers her tail dipped in bbq sauce
19:49 * Ali noms dat bbq tail
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20:07 <Schism> Lumindia! A powerful nation needs a powerful ruler! You should see this too!!!11!1
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20:10 * DashedRainbows bounces around Ali
20:10 <DashedRainbows> it's almost pool time
20:10 <DashedRainbows> yay!
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20:14 * Cepheid employs a dwarven vampire to run Schisms nation.
20:14 <Schism> This seems a perfectly reasonable fit.
20:15 <Schism> Dwarves are sensible and level headed, and vampires are immortal, and as everybody knows, immortals never go insane or try to destroy the world when they see all their friends disappearing on them.
20:17 <Cepheid> But then there are mysterious disappearances and deaths.
20:21 <Schism> Oh, standard new ruler stuff, no problem really. And hey, they're all folks who pissed off the God-Emperor, so it's win/win.
20:22 <Schism> You'd also think the ruler of a nation could go, "Hey, I'm a vampire, could I count on you folks to support me with a pint of blood now and again, in return for my leading this [yay]hole? Thanks."
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20:28 <Cepheid> They are treated as undead. But yes, the idea of a vampire being on good terms with a village or city is an interesting idea. Vampire politely requests blood donations. In return, scientists get materials to research vampirism.
20:29 <Schism> I like the idea. Similarly, changelings working openly within places, collecting the emotion of their choice by inspiring it, and in turn giving back to the community.
20:30 <Schism> Before that rainbow-deer thing, that is.
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20:32 <Ali> Aww does Schism not want to be a pretty Ocelleus
20:33 * Ali likes the reformed changlines
20:33 <Schism> I like them too, but there's a certain... plethora of colour which I'd rather not have.
20:33 <Schism> Of course, changelings are shapeshifters.
20:34 * Schism turns into a fox. o3o
20:34 * Ali pats the Schism foxie
20:35 * Schism grumbles, but sits there and permits it, rather than biting the Ali and running off.
20:36 * Ali awws and tries to give Schism some foxie food
20:37 <Schism> "How can one properly describe the nature of transformation to one who doesn't have it as a fundamental part of their being? It's like... not quite the same as taking off a suit of clothing. One could say that it's like tearing off one's skin and replacing it, but that's a disturbing analogy for most. I suppose it could best be said as changing the shape of the glass."
20:40 <Schism> Here. Now that we've discussed annoying things, have an adorable T-Rex baby. https://twitter.com/oolon/status/1187668304636325893?s=20
20:45 <Ali> If that's addorable, I'd hate to know what's scary to you.
20:49 <Schism> Would you believe I'm terrified of bees and wasps?
20:49 <Schism> Giant killer monster bees, I'm fine with. The little things that could sting me at a random occasion? Aaaaaaaaaaaa.
20:49 <Schism> Though bumblebees are always adorable.
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20:51 <Schism> ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYAlB1Kxayc )
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21:02 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Makenshi: Emotional Dashie Vocal Chops Music: TCB - Nothing Is Forever (2019) [Chillout] [ http://tinyurl.com/y45nl9ym ]
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21:04 <Schism> Faced with wildfires in California and the whole west coast CAUSED BY THEM, PG&E have stated that doing an overview of their electrical grid, something which hasn't been done in entirely too long, would be 'prohibitively expensive'.
21:05 <Schism> It's okay. Once California is entirely charcoal, they won't need to provide power there anymore.
21:06 <Ali> Eeyup
21:06 <Ali> They're on fire every year
21:06 <Ali> Tis what neglect gets you.
21:06 <Schism> Yeeeeup.
21:07 <Ali> I mean its the same thing every year, half of CA is on fire
21:07 <Schism> I'm not a fan of nationalization in a general sense, but at this point, people should just take PG&E and say, "You've proven you can't handle a public service, good day."
21:08 <Schism> And yeah, but it's the tail end of October now.
21:10 * PinkieShy hugs Ali
21:10 * Schism puts a plush llama on PinkieShy's head.
21:10 <PinkieShy> oh no :O
21:10 * PinkieShy turns into the plush llama
21:11 * PinkieShy eyes dart
21:11 <Schism> Llama-face!
21:11 <PinkieShy> xD!
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21:12 <Schism> Don't tell me. There's a waterfall we're about to go over.
21:12 <PinkieShy> Emperor's new grove? :P
21:13 <Schism> Yes. I love that flick. X3
21:18 <Schism> When I first saw it, so long ago, I dismissed it as a silly movie bereft of anything Disney had put out in the past 10 years, completely without plot or development, and it's taken me this long to realize that THAT WAS THE POINT!
21:18 <Schism> Well, it has kind of a plot. But that's not the important part.
21:25 <Lumindia> Sharp rocks at the bottom?
21:25 * Ali licks Lumindia till he's dripping
21:27 * PinkieShy hands Ali a spongebob hat
21:28 <Schism> Lumindia: Most probably.
21:30 <Schism> Torrent sites are offline, it looks like.
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21:31 <Schism> Oh, there are magnet links, let's use that.
21:31 <Lumindia> '-'
21:31 * Lumindia licks Ali back
21:32 * Schism sidles up to Cepheid. "The cupcake, the cupcake we're using the poison the demon at the end of the labyrinth, this poison we've made, the poison with the cupcake. Poisoned cupcake."
21:33 <Schism> Got it right here.
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22:02 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Pony Plushie Compilation #354 [ http://tinyurl.com/y4spakge ]
22:03 <Schism> This isn't poison!
22:17 <Finwe> Good evening, my perissodactyls of minute stature.
22:18 <Finwe> Mlles Ali, DashedRainbows and Sleeping_Nightmares; Messrs Cepheid, Lumindia, PinkieShy and Schism.
22:18 * Finwe doffs his hat.
22:18 * Ali doffs over Finwe
22:18 <Finwe> !twilight time
22:18 <DerpyBot> It's not Twilight time right now, silly!
22:18 <Lumindia> All shall suffer as I have suffered!
22:18 <Finwe> !starlight time
22:18 * Sleeping_Nightmares curls up on Finwe
22:18 <Finwe> Starlight time! Starlight time!
22:19 * Finwe bounces around in front of Starlight_Glimmer.
22:19 <Finwe> *bouncebounce*
22:37 <Schism> "On second thought, make my potatoes a salad."
22:45 * DashedRainbows is swim horse
22:47 * DashedRainbows hugs Ali and boops PinkieShy's horn
22:48 <Schism> Cepheid, how did they get there before us?
22:53 <Schism> "Hey, I've been turned into a cow. May I be excused?"
23:01 * DashedRainbows rolls around aimlessly
23:02 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Drawfriend Stuff (Pony Art Gallery) #3142 [ http://tinyurl.com/y2ovsudl ]
23:03 <Schism> That movie was very silly, but still really good.
23:10 <Cepheid> I never actually saw that movie, myself.
23:40 <Schism> Oh, you must.
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23:45 <Lumindia> so I was today years old when I learned shrek was based off of a book
23:45 <Lumindia> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shrek!
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