00:02 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Drawfriend Stuff (Pony Art Gallery) #3143 [ http://tinyurl.com/y4dlxqto ]
00:20 * DashedRainbows looks at Ali's cutie mark closely
00:26 * Dranae pokes Finwe some more.
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02:02 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Nightly Discussion #1962 [ http://tinyurl.com/y6mshpmt ]
02:53 <ADragonDreaming> D&D 5e: In which my rogue attacks only once but gets voted MVP.
02:55 <ADragonDreaming> I set it up to sneak attack the boss monster of the group, managed to not get dunked by the retaliation, and then kited his minion into a death-dealing attack of opportunity by our Barbarian.
03:02 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Makenshi: MLP Tribute Music: John Kenza - Friendship is Magic [Piano Solo] [ http://tinyurl.com/yy2kh373 ]
03:16 <DashedRainbows> I'm back meh
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04:01 <Dranae> ADragonDreaming, ever played Dark Heresy?
04:02 * Dranae also pokes Finwe.
04:02 <ADragonDreaming> Nope.
04:04 <ADragonDreaming> why for ask?
04:04 * DashedRainbows flops on Dranae
04:05 <Dranae> Cuz I was gonna talk about a Dark Heresy campaign
04:06 <ADragonDreaming> well, feel free... anyway?
04:07 <Dranae> Doesn't make sense without understanding 40K in general
04:08 <ADragonDreaming> oh, well, 40k I know.
04:08 <ADragonDreaming> in a general sense.
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04:13 * ADragonDreaming is nommed
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04:48 * Dranae stretches.
04:48 <Dranae> Can anyone see me?
04:48 <Dranae> My internet is acting up.
04:53 <PurePurple> I can.
04:53 <DashedRainbows> I can too
04:53 * DashedRainbows licks Ali a lot and wags her tail
04:54 * PurePurple gives Dranke a whip. "Now go flog your router until it behaves."
04:54 <PurePurple> Dranae*
04:54 <DashedRainbows> o.0
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05:01 <PurePurple> Guess it wasn't going to behave...
05:10 <DashedRainbows> the state of irc makes me sad
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06:09 <DashedRainbows> It's a quiet day everywhere today
06:22 * DashedRainbows offers her tail to the Ali
06:23 * Ali noms DashedRainbows tail and hugs.
06:25 * DashedRainbows makes discontent horse noises
06:28 * DashedRainbows forgot her Ali plushie and uses the actual Ali. Nini
06:31 * Dranae flings things that are soft.
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06:57 <Koopz> Schism https://koopz.rocks/s/2019-10-29_07-57-09.png
06:59 <Dranae> Koopz, do you play on PS4
07:07 <Koopz> nah i'm playing on PC
07:08 <Dranae> :(
07:08 <Dranae> Are you on Crystal?
07:08 <Dranae> Specifically Mateus
07:09 <Koopz> Light - Shiva, sorry
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07:16 <ConfusionRift> Hello everypony.
07:17 * DashedRainbows bounces around the ConfusionRift
07:19 * ConfusionRift pets DashedRainbows.
07:23 * DashedRainbows paws at ConfusionRift
07:25 * ConfusionRift ruffles DashedRainbows. :P
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08:02 * Dranae grumbles. WANTS TO TALK TO FINWE.
08:23 <Finwe> Good morning, everypony.
08:24 <Dranae> AHA
08:24 <Dranae> YOU
08:24 <Dranae> Finwe, have you ever played UnReal World?
08:24 <Finwe> Lt Cdr ConfusionRift, Capt Koopz; Mlles DashedRainbows and Sleeping_Nightmares; Messrs Schism, Cepheid and Dranae.
08:24 <Finwe> o7
08:25 <Finwe> Dranae: I don't recall that name, so most probably not.
08:26 <Finwe> At the moment, I'm a fair way into Chapter 2 (or was it 3) of Baldur's Gate 2: Shadows of Amn Enhanced Edition. o3o
08:26 <Dranae> You should try it
08:27 <Dranae> Tis free
08:27 <Dranae> And Finnish
08:28 <Finwe> " UnReal World is a unique low-fantasy roguelike game set in the far north during the late Iron-Age."
08:28 <Finwe> Sounds interesting enough.
08:28 <Dranae> It's set in totally-not-actually Finland
08:28 <Finwe> I've played NetHack and Dungeon Crawl quite a lot.
08:29 <Finwe> And some Ancient Domains of Mystery as well.
08:29 <ConfusionRift> RAdm. Finwe. (salutes)
08:29 <Dranae> https://www.unrealworld.fi/wiki/images/1/1e/World_map.png
08:31 * ConfusionRift tries to play a game, but the controller now is giving him double inputs on one side. "For... flip... sake..."
08:31 <Finwe> It has obviously ceased being free, the latest free version is from about one year ago.
08:31 <Koopz> RAdm. Finwe o7
08:31 <Dranae> Nope
08:31 <Dranae> It's just that long between dev cycles.
08:32 <Finwe> The newest version is available on Steam, but it costs €7.69.
08:32 <Finwe> Not too expensive, though.
08:33 <Dranae> I don't believe tis different
08:33 <Dranae> Or at least not too much.
08:35 <Finwe> "UrW can't be opened because it is from an unidentified developer."
08:35 <Finwe> But of course.
08:36 <Finwe> Always hold down ctrl when doing this. :/
08:37 <Finwe> Ah, a Kalevalan main theme played on kantele. o3o
08:40 <Dranae> :D
08:41 <Dranae> Also, Finwe, protip
08:41 <Dranae> Carefully chase animals
08:41 <Dranae> Combine running and walking
08:41 <Dranae> When they are breathless on examination
08:41 <Dranae> Walk over and beat them to death with a rock
08:41 <Dranae> This will keep the hide as pristine as possible
08:41 <Dranae> Increasing its value and potency
08:42 <Cepheid> Today is gonna be a harsh day.
08:44 <Cepheid> So, it turns out that I misjudged when an assignment is due, so now I have to do the complete thing before tomorrow evening. Ah well, not the first time, won't be the last time either.
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08:48 * Finwe noms on Cepheid's assignment.
08:51 <Cepheid> It's nothing spectacular.
08:51 <Cepheid> Create a scene graph, render some stars, provide a camera that can move around using newtonian physics.
08:51 <Cepheid> Stuff I've done already, mostly because at the moment I'm the only one working on the group project.
08:52 <Cepheid> Anyways, shower time.
09:01 <Finwe> After the volleyball match, yes.
09:14 * Cepheid figured out quaternions in the shower. Sort of.
09:18 <Cepheid> At least, how they relate to graphical programming.
09:19 <Finwe> They are not entirely unlike covariant tensors.
09:20 <Cepheid> That doesn't explain anything to me, as tensors have not been covered in any of my math courses.
09:24 <Cepheid> In any case, I now understand why they're better for applying rotations in 3D graphics.
09:24 <Dranae> Also, Finwe
09:24 <Dranae> Somewhere or another
09:24 <Dranae> I have an old-as-heck kantele
09:25 <Dranae> With a bunch of equally old-as-heck tabs to play little-kid lullabies
09:26 <Cepheid> I was gonna leave for school early, but I think I'll stick to my schedule as best as possible from here on out.
09:28 <Cepheid> Anyhow, quaternions and their usefulness: It has to do with being able to lerp them, alongside the fact that they also solve the gimbal lock problem, are more compact, etc, etc, etc.
09:29 * Finwe o3o!'s at Dranae.
09:30 <Finwe> I can only play flute, recorder and bagpipe.
09:30 <Cepheid> I can't express the concept in words, though. Easier done using visuals.
09:32 <Dranae> It'd be a heck of a stretch to say I can play it.
09:32 <Dranae> I can pluck the right strings with a paper tab behind them to show me where
09:32 * Finwe Väinämöinen hats on Dranae.
09:32 <Cepheid> I can't play any instruments.
09:33 <Dranae> I don't know what that is
09:33 <Dranae> I do know that I have bludgeoned a bear to death in URW with my bare hands
09:33 <Finwe> Dranae: https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-JIrpCq6EtLk/Vi9jLKryNbI/AAAAAAAAAEU/-dzFo2wr8u0/s1600/Vainamoinen.jpg
09:33 <Dranae> And once I used a massive fire and careful chasing in order to kill a pack of wolves
09:35 <Finwe> Dranae: It's a linen cap with three ribbons, one sewn around the rim, and one along the sagittal and one along the transverse plane.
09:35 <Dranae> I can't be sure of it
09:35 <Dranae> but I think those show up in-game?
09:35 <Dranae> Sadly no smithing without a (very popular) mod
09:36 <Dranae> Also, don't bother eating any mushrooms
09:36 <Dranae> There are two kinds that are poison, and one basically kills you no matter what
09:36 <Dranae> And you won't find out until a few hours/day later
09:36 <Finwe> Finnish scouts use one with inverse colours: https://api.europeana.eu/api/v2/thumbnail-by-url.json?size=w400&type=IMAGE&uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.kantapuu.fi%2Ffi%2Fviewimage.php%3Fobjimg%3Dtrue%26id%3D339047%26imgres%3Dlres
09:38 <Cepheid> I want a good hat to wear, myself. Would probably help if it was the type that had like, a good longish brim for my eyes.
09:38 <Cepheid> I'll need one for this winter, as I've been maintaining my bald head as of late.
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09:39 <Dranae> Cepheid, you want a cattleman hat
09:39 <Dranae> AKA a cowboy hat
09:39 <Finwe> Although in probably the most famous Väinämöinen painting he is wearing a dark cap with red ribbons: https://kansakunnanomaisuutta.fi/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/gallen-kallela-Aino_01.jpg
09:40 <Dranae> So it's named after what appears to be a deity?
09:40 <Dranae> Are they related to Perun by any chance?
09:40 <Dranae> Only Finnish deity I know of
09:41 <Finwe> Väinämöinen was a wizard or a sorcerer of sort.
09:41 <Cepheid> The only problem I have with hats is where to put them when I'm not using them, or not allowed to use them. The former is more easily resolved with a hat rack of some sort. The latter...
09:41 <Finwe> The only ones I know of are Ilmatar, Ukko, Pekko, Tapio and Ahti.
09:41 <Dranae> The Norse word would've been seidr, then, yes?
09:42 <Cepheid> That's more of an issue with the university.
09:42 <Cepheid> They have silly rules about hats in classrooms.
09:42 <Cepheid> Some of it being cases of "The professors find hats in the classroom disrespectful."
09:42 <Dranae> snrk
09:42 <Cepheid> Others being "Students can't see past the hat."
09:43 <Dranae> I wore a hat to school once to hide the fact I had a gigantic goose egg so bad it changed the shape of my head, visibly
09:43 <Dranae> Teacher yelled at me
09:43 <Dranae> 'Nothing covering your face or head'
09:43 <Dranae> 'So why're you wearing those gigantic ridiculous ladybug glasses'
09:43 <Cepheid> Heh.
09:43 <Dranae> Have I mentioned I have never ever managed NOT to snark off toward authority
09:43 * ConfusionRift hmmms, and tries the Steam PS4 controller support.
09:43 <Cepheid> Glasses are usually an exception for vision purposes.
09:44 <Dranae> Nah
09:44 <Dranae> Hers were an affectation
09:44 <Cepheid> Ah.
09:44 <Cepheid> Given the whole ladybug thing, yeah.
09:44 <ConfusionRift> ...now it works...
09:44 <Cepheid> That said, I'd also wear sunglasses in the room.
09:44 <Cepheid> I'm not sure if it's because my eyes have adapted to darkness from sitting in a darkened room most of my life, but light is bothersome to my eyes.
09:45 <Dranae> I was told if I didn't attend prom, I would fail
09:45 <Dranae> So I went to prom after taking a six-pack off my dad
09:45 <Cepheid> Yeah, I get told a lot of weird stuff by the universities and colleges.
09:45 <Dranae> poured the whole thing on myself
09:45 <Dranae> Showed up in my rattiest hoodie, wifebeater, and jean shorts
09:46 <Cepheid> "No chewing gum in class." "No hats in class." "No punching walls." "Go to the hospital or we'll kick you out of the program of study."
09:46 <Dranae> That last one
09:46 <Dranae> whut
09:46 <Finwe> Dranae: Seiðrmaþr would be the word, I think.
09:46 <Cepheid> It's happened about five or six times in the last year now.
09:47 <Cepheid> Basically, I have meltdowns caused by stress, overexhertion and incessant thoughts that creep in over time.
09:47 <Finwe> Seiðmaþr, even.
09:47 <Cepheid> And the end-result is I'm usually handled by security.
09:47 <Finwe> Or seiðkona for a woman.
09:47 <Dranae> Seidrmathr is a witc - ah, I see
09:47 <Cepheid> Who then tells me that if I don't choose to admit myself to the hospital, they'll force the issue either through police, or threatening to kick me out of my program of study.
09:48 <Finwe> Maþr is the word for man.
09:49 <Dranae> See, I knew that seidr was 'magic'
09:49 <Dranae> But I thought seidrmathr was a witch
09:50 <Finwe> A male witch, yes. Would that be a warlock, then?
09:51 <Cepheid> No.
09:51 <Cepheid> The word "warlock" effectively means "Oath Breaker"
09:51 <Cepheid> A male witch is just that, a witch.
09:51 <Cepheid> Society for whatever reason, has associated witchcraft specifically with women, for some reason.
09:52 <Cepheid> This is based somewhat on my studies of modern witchcraft, plus a bit of research into the the past of witchcraft.
09:52 <Finwe> "In early modern Scots, the word came to be used as the male equivalent of witch."
09:52 <Cepheid> Ah.
09:52 <Finwe> I see.
09:53 <Finwe> But yes, what in OE would have been "wicce".
09:53 <Dranae> Uhhh
09:53 <Cepheid> But yes, while modern society would probably call a male witch a warlock, it is generally considered inappropriate, and better to just use the term "witch."
09:53 <Dranae> IIRC, a warlock, or oathbreaker, in Old Norse, would have been a 'nithing'
09:53 <Finwe> And seiðkona would be wicca then.
09:53 <Cepheid> Witch itself is *SUPPOSED* to carry no connotation of gender, but it does, for some reason.
09:53 <Dranae> Anything he did would have been niddingsvark
09:54 <Dranae> Cepheid, blame King James
09:54 <Cepheid> Heh.
09:54 <Dranae> Dead serious
09:54 <Dranae> See, the original Hebrew word means 'harmful caster of spells'
09:54 <Dranae> AKA black magic
09:54 <Finwe> Varð-lokkur in Old Norse is caller of spirits.
09:55 <Dranae> By the time King James wrote his version of the Bible, all magic was evil.
09:55 <Dranae> King James had a thing about witches
09:55 <Dranae> So
09:55 <Dranae> That's how we get Exodus 22:18
09:55 <Finwe> But it probably has not much to do with the OE word wærloga.
09:56 * Cepheid is hesitant to go in the direction of discussing Christianity in general. He does not necessarily hold the best views of it, which can... create conflict.
09:56 <Dranae> Finwe, isn't old language fun
09:56 <Finwe> Indeed.
09:57 <Finwe> I actually studied classical Latin before mathematics.
09:57 <Dranae> exercitus noster est magnus, Persicus inquit!
09:57 <Cepheid> Meanwhile, I'm mixed about studying stuff in general.
09:57 <Cepheid> I prefer self-study, but that doesn't get me degrees or diplomas.
09:58 <Cepheid> Ironically, a majority of my dislike of formal study has less to do with the difficulty, and more just... How it's done.
09:58 * Finwe awards a catkeeper diploma to Cepheid.
09:58 <Cepheid> There are a few big problems I have with formal education as a whole that makes it hard for me to focus on studies.
09:59 <Cepheid> First off, between each and every semester, there's a period of about a month, to five months, where we learn nothing, do nothing, etc.
09:59 <Cepheid> The campuses shut down, and I can't get inside them, for the most part.
09:59 <Cepheid> So I lose my usual office for doing work, since working at home is impossible for me, as I have an addiction to video games.
10:00 <Cepheid> On top of that... The information I need is just provided too slowly over a period of time.
10:00 <Cepheid> It took three weeks, at two lectures a week, to learn about something I could have figured out in a day or two of self-study.
10:01 <Cepheid> Formal education's too slow. It gives us unreasonably long periods to learn X, Y, Z and do A, B, and C.
10:01 <Cepheid> It actively encourages being lazy, taking your time, etc.
10:02 <Dranae> agreed
10:02 <Cepheid> There's also issues of fairness involved.
10:02 <Cepheid> Faculty and admin talk up and down about fairness and such, but there are problems.
10:02 <Cepheid> I stated this the other day, I believe, but to quickly reiterate..
10:03 <Cepheid> I have 22-23 years or so experience programming, and I have a prior diploma. It's not fair to the rest of the students to group me up with a pair of students who, up until the start of their education, had never written a computer program before.
10:03 <Dranae> It took me a whole five hours to figure out how the heck to pin down a variable in algebra and solve for it
10:03 <Dranae> So please dear fluffy Lord
10:04 <Cepheid> I should, legitimately, be cordoned off on my own to balance it.
10:04 <Dranae> did we have to spend two
10:04 <Dranae> freaking
10:04 <Dranae> weeks
10:04 <Dranae> on the subject
10:04 <Cepheid> Tell me about it.
10:04 <Cepheid> Gamedev spent those three weeks I mentioned earlier on representations of models.
10:04 <Cepheid> Parametric and non-parametric.
10:05 <Cepheid> And even worse, confused a majority of students in the process.
10:05 <Dranae> Let me give you an example of how I got treated in math
10:05 <Dranae> I rarely, if ever
10:05 <Dranae> showed my work
10:05 <Dranae> I never used a calculator
10:05 <Cepheid> The #1 complaint about assignment one from students was the use of 36 vertices to represent a cube.
10:05 <Dranae> My usual math teacher disagreed with this, but allowed it as long as I could explain it
10:05 <Cepheid> Er, from the TA*
10:06 <Dranae> but
10:06 <Dranae> you only need eight? Unless I'm mistaken?
10:06 <Cepheid> Yes.
10:06 <Cepheid> But the professor explained a topic that confused students.
10:06 <Dranae> Anyway, we got a sub one day
10:06 <Dranae> She handed out a test that was, in all honesty, probably a week ahead of time
10:07 <Dranae> Just so she didn't have to actually teach
10:07 <Cepheid> He explained normals, how normals are specific to each vertex and associated face, etc.
10:07 <Cepheid> So students ended up thinking that, for assignment purposes, normals were required.
10:07 <Cepheid> But because of the way it was expressed, they thought they needed individual vertices, each with their own normals, for each triangle.
10:07 <Cepheid> So what should have been 8 vertices, became 36.
10:07 * Dranae slams skull into floor
10:07 <Dranae> eurgh
10:08 <Dranae> So
10:08 <Dranae> Sub sees me turn my test in first
10:08 <Dranae> I have done no shown work
10:08 <Dranae> just put answers dow
10:08 <Dranae> I get called in to the principal's office during lunch
10:08 <Dranae> I spend three. Freaking. Periods. In the office.
10:08 <Dranae> Explaining that I am not cheating, I am doing the math in my head
10:09 <Cepheid> Ah yes, that old issue.
10:09 <Cepheid> Beyond just you know, showing you know how to do it, there's other reasons for showing one's work.
10:09 <Dranae> well see
10:10 <Dranae> that's the thing
10:10 <Cepheid> Not sure about Finwe's field, but in mine, *ESPECIALLY* in mine, showing your work is important.
10:10 <Dranae> Sub continued to rant and rave
10:10 <Dranae> That because I was writing down the answers w/o showing work
10:10 <Dranae> I was cheating
10:10 <Dranae> even if I could subsequently fill in the necessary work
10:10 <Dranae> Eventually principal says that it's just part of my IEP and it's fine
10:10 <Cepheid> Because oftentimes, when you design a new algorithm, and make a claim as to worst, average or best-case performance, you have to perform a lot of math, then do a lot of logic stuff, to break it down and show that yes, it achieves this level of performance.
10:11 <Dranae> True, but algorithms ain't algebra
10:12 <Finwe> When you write a mathematical proof, the why part is the important thing, as we often know the answer prior to that.
10:13 <Dranae> But like
10:13 <Cepheid> They ask you to do it early on to get you into the habit of doing it in the first place.
10:13 <Dranae> when you're doing 2x+6=-2
10:14 <Cepheid> I don't like it any more than you do, especially since there's some extreme cases.
10:14 <Dranae> whoops
10:14 <Dranae> added a -
10:14 <Dranae> Instead of a 1
10:15 <Cepheid> Like, having to write down "2x + 6 = 1" and then having to write out "2(3 + 4x) + 6 = 1" and then "6 + 8x + 6 = 1" and so on and so on. Some are okay with skipping obvious steps. Others expect that each and every single step, explicitly, is shown. Even if, in the end, your answer is up to two and a half pages long.
10:15 <Dranae> Yeah but I can just read it
10:15 <Dranae> and spill the answer out
10:15 <Dranae> and move on
10:17 <Cepheid> I've decided this week will be spent on working on my own schoolwork instead of schoolwork for my colleagues who continue to do ****-all.
10:17 <Dranae> yep
10:17 <Dranae> Leave 'em to dry
10:18 <Dranae> It's what I used to do
10:18 <Cepheid> I don't want to, but it's gotten annoying.
10:18 <Cepheid> I spent most of last week working on the group project to keep us up to speed on it.
10:18 <Cepheid> They worked on their assignment 3 for gamedev.
10:18 <Cepheid> I haven't started on it yet, because as stated, I spent all of last week on the group project for gamedev.
10:18 <Dranae> I once told my teammates in history Jeopardy if they didn't at least try to answer something
10:18 <Dranae> I would let them bomb
10:18 <Cepheid> Which they haven't touched yet.
10:18 <Cepheid> And guess what? Guess when assignment 3 is due
10:21 <Cepheid> It's due tomorrow evening.
10:21 <Cepheid> Fortunately, I work great under stress, so it's moot anyways, but I'm not happy.
10:21 <Finwe> Dranae: Here's a rudimentary calculus problem for you: compute the integral of exp(-x^2) over the real line.
10:21 <Dranae> Finwe, two things
10:22 <Dranae> Well, three things
10:22 <Dranae> One
10:22 <Dranae> It has been basically fourteen years since I last put actual effort into learning
10:22 <Dranae> Two
10:22 <Dranae> I never did get into any calculus classes.
10:22 <Dranae> Three
10:22 <Dranae> Trigonometry, and calculus, tie my brain into knots and beat it with broken glass scourges.
10:23 <Finwe> :3
10:23 <Cepheid> Calculus isn't that difficult, to be honest.
10:23 * Finwe patpats Dranae.
10:23 <Cepheid> Also, trig and calc are different things.
10:23 <Cepheid> While calc does involve some trig, it's mostly about how to apply calculus to the trigonometric functions.
10:23 <Cepheid> It is not a direct requirement.
10:24 <Cepheid> No, the thing you should be terrified of is imaginary numbers, or complex numbers as they are being called these days.
10:25 <Cepheid> If you have no idea what that is, it's mathematics involving the square root of a negative number.
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10:32 <Cepheid> You know, I should create a small, portable app that can be used to visualize quaternions and how they work in 3D graphics.
10:33 <Finwe> Imaginary numbers are just a vector subspace of complex numbers.
10:34 <Cepheid> I know, I know. It's just the complexity comes when you start throwing it into other fields, and inconsistently use it.
10:37 <Finwe> First you have the natural numbers and addition.
10:37 <Finwe> To get a group with addition as the group operation, you need negative numbers.
10:38 <Finwe> Expand with those and you have the set of integers, which is a group with + as the group operation and 0 as the neutral element.
10:38 <Finwe> Then introduce multiplication e.g. as a shorthand notation for repeated addition.
10:39 <Finwe> Then you have a ring (Z,+,x), right?
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10:41 <Cepheid> I have no idea what these rings are. I hear about them but no one evet bothers to explain it in general terminology. It is always excessively complex terminology from areas of math I haven't yet learned.
10:41 <Finwe> (Z,+) is the underlying Abelian group, and multiplication is associative and distributive over the Abelian group operation.
10:42 <Cepheid> And what is an Abelion group?
10:43 <Finwe> It's a commutative group in which every element has an inverse element.
10:43 <Finwe> Named after the Norwegian mathematician Niels Abel.
10:44 <Finwe> Umm, inverse elements are not required.
10:44 <Finwe> That would be a field.
10:45 <Cepheid> That's fine and dandy, but I don't know what any of that means. Though I think I can infer it to a degree.
10:45 <Cepheid> I assume the elements of the groups are basically mathematical operations. Thus, if there is addition, the inverse would be subtraction. Multiplication and division.
10:46 <Finwe> Commutative means that it makes no difference in which order you apply the group operation.
10:46 <Finwe> If the operation is +, that would mean that a + b = b + a.
10:46 <Cepheid> So division and multiplication would be one group?
10:46 <Cepheid> Because it generally doesn't matter about the order.
10:47 <Cepheid> a * b / c = b / c * a
10:47 <Cepheid> The only thing that matters here is that c is not zero. Speaking of...
10:48 <Cepheid> Is there any special mathematics revolving around division by zero?
10:48 <Cepheid> Or is it completely useless?
10:49 <Finwe> It's just not defined.
10:49 <Cepheid> Given that the square root of a negative number is not defined in the real set, but yet has an entire field dedicated to it..
10:50 <Cepheid> I'm surprised division by zero doesn't have something similar.
10:51 <Cepheid> I imagine it has been researched but nothing came of it.
10:51 <Finwe> For a structure (X, +) to be group, you'd require a + b to be in X if both a and b are in X, that a + (b + c) = (a + b) + c, that there is an element x in X for which x + a = a for every a in X, and that for each a in X there is an element -a for which a + (-a) = x.
10:53 <Finwe> So I think that division and nonzero rational numbers would form a group with 1 as the neutral element.
10:53 <Finwe> Or would it?
10:54 <Cepheid> Mmm. Finwe, question. Why did you go for a PhD in math? What is your ultimate goal with it? Research? Working in a math-heavy field? Or teaching? Or just because?
10:54 <Finwe> Associativity probably will not work.
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10:55 <Finwe> 1 / (2/3) = 3/2, and that is not the same as (1/2)/3 = 1/6.
10:56 <Finwe> Multiplication and nonzero rationals is a group, though.
10:57 <Finwe> The other underlying structure of a ring is called a monoid.
10:58 <Finwe> You have an identity element and associativity, but not necessarily inverse elements.
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10:58 <Finwe> It's been quite long since I last did abstract algebra.
10:59 <Jackie> Finwe, do you find SciPy useful?
11:00 <Finwe> I've never used it, meaning that I cannot, but for anyone familiar with Python it is most certainly useful.
11:01 <Jackie> I like how Jupyter can run on Termux
11:01 * Cepheid graghs. Headache.
11:02 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Morning Discussion #1735 [ http://tinyurl.com/y6mhy5cm ]
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11:03 <Finwe> Cepheid: I originally had a choice between biophysics, nuclear physics, applied and computational physics, information technology, mechanics, mathematics and strategic finance, and I chose math purely because it had the least number of obligatory courses.
11:03 <Jackie> Just wondering. Is Linux still a good platform to program?
11:03 <Finwe> Better than most of the alternatives, I think.
11:04 <Jackie> As in, programming in the environment
11:04 <Finwe> What do you need? Emacs or vim and a compiler.
11:06 <Finwe> I need to go, I have a volleyball match where I'm supposed to be playing starting soon.
11:06 <Finwe> See you later, everypony!
11:06 * Finwe flies off.
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11:10 <Cepheid> Arguable. There are problems with all three major OSes for development that make it a pain in the butt.
11:12 <Cepheid> Linux is subject to it's own variant of the DLL hell problem. Windows has no specific organization for libraries and the like. MacOS X requires an Apple computer. BSDs are subject to the same problems as Linux.
11:12 <Cepheid> Linux also, like Windows, has ABI breakages on occasion.
11:18 <Cepheid> So which platform is best depends mostly on target audience and personal preference for tools, IDE and such.
11:18 <Cepheid> Fortunately, the situation is relatively simple for me now.
11:19 <Cepheid> VSCode or Atom for editor. C++17 or C# 8.0-compatible compiler, and I am good to go.
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11:20 <Cepheid> BSD might be a problem for C++ though. Most variants as I understand prefer to use secure, tested versions of compilers. This means earlier versions which have limited support for newer standards.
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11:21 <Cepheid> Annoyingly I still have to be careful anyway. Default and preferred behaviour is to have language extensions enabled.
11:21 * DashedRainbows sits by ConfusionRift
11:22 * ConfusionRift pets DashedRainbows.
11:24 <Cepheid> That said I've moved to C# more because there is an adhered-to standard. And it tends to be consistent across platforms now, with very few exceptions. That said it does need improvement on the functionality front with .NET. But slowly, that is improving.
11:25 * DashedRainbows raises her hooves
11:25 <Cepheid> I want to restart my X11 effort. But I get the feeling it might also be a good idea to look into Wayland. Assuming I can ever get it working.
11:27 <Cepheid> nVidia has decided to be a bag of *YAYs* regarding support for Wayland.
11:28 <Cepheid> So I can't test it on my PC. And my laptop... Not sure.
11:36 * DashedRainbows also licks the ConfusionRift
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11:37 * Cepheid flash cards his Japanese vocab. Is doing sixty cards every 20 to 30 minutes this morning.
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11:41 * ConfusionRift flops.
11:42 * DashedRainbows too
11:43 * Cepheid stresses. But vents it as best he can through breathing exercises to not let it grow.
11:44 <Cepheid> I can hold my colleagues responsible for not focusing on the group project, but reality is, I am still at fault for not splitting up my own work across three classes.
11:44 <Cepheid> So if I do poorly on the exam, it was ultimately my fault.
11:45 * DashedRainbows sniffs ConfusionRift and flops again
11:45 * ConfusionRift lightly pats DashedRainbows.
11:45 <ConfusionRift> So tired... gonna crash for the day.
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11:50 <Cepheid> I have to be careful though. It is nice to be aware of one's failings, but acknowledging them too much can potentially set me up for failure.
11:50 <Jackie> Programming a text game
11:50 <Jackie> That actually simulates cooking
11:50 <Jackie> lol
11:51 <Jackie> Just have to code the ingredienfs
11:51 <Jackie> *ingredients
11:51 <Cepheid> Not that difficult to do, really.
11:53 <Jackie> Graphical is impossible
11:53 <Jackie> So I think text based is suitable
11:53 <Cepheid> It mostly depends on the complexity of how the crafting system works. Do the players select the ingredients and number, and hope the result comes out good? Or do they pick from a list of known recipes? Or perhaps both?
11:54 <Jackie> 1. Each ingredient has a spoil value
11:54 <Jackie> The nearer to 0, the better
11:54 <Jackie> 2. Recipes are made from a JSON file
11:55 <Jackie> With the ingredients being JSON files too
11:56 <Jackie> I know making a cooking/baking sim as a text game is stupid
11:56 <Jackie> lol
11:57 <Jackie> Been experiementing a type that no one has done before
11:57 <Jackie> As in, it actually let's you do the irl recipes
11:58 <Jackie> It records every move and creates a JSON file at the end
12:00 <Jackie> The purpose of making the file at the end? Sharing it online
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12:05 <DashedRainbows> To make something useful
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12:17 * Cepheid invokes old coping mechanism to help calm himself down, to end the endless stress.
12:27 <Cepheid> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNcyEbGnrWk
12:27 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.
12:28 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Castle Corridor (Castlevania: Aria of Sorrow) - GaMetal Remix
12:35 <Cepheid> https://www.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/doml7o/his_spidey_sense_was_tingling/?st=k2bu2yc2&sh=cc2fd91d Heh.
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13:11 <Cepheid> Gods damnit. I'm worked up over random stuff again.
13:15 <Cepheid> Mm. Flatten the rage. The hatred. Turn it into something I can manage. Breathe.
13:17 <DashedRainbows> Yesterday in a nutshell ^
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14:23 <Pony|71866> привет
14:23 <Pony|71866> hello?
14:24 <Pony|71866> Э
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15:43 <Cepheid> Can't go a damned week without something going wrong.
15:43 <Cepheid> Can't go a week with some semblance of control over my life.
15:44 <Cepheid> Allll I want to do is rant, rave, and rage. I don't want to. But I will. Because I have no control over myself. An endless, vicious, repeating cycle. I try to stop it. I try to control it. But in the end I just push it on anyway.
15:48 <Cepheid> Took all my meds. I know I did. But it doesn't matter. For reasons known and unknown, all I want to do is beat myself up. But people don't let me. So I want someone else to beat me up. But no one will because that's assault. I want people to punish me. Make me feel guilty. Like I committed a crime. But no one will, because I haven't done anything to deserve it.
15:49 <Cepheid> I don't have time for this. I have work to do. Yeah, I'm behind on it, it's my fault, I get it. Stop harassing me you damned emotions. Piss off. Go bother someone else. Let me get to work.
15:50 <Cepheid> But nah. Gotta have a broken amygdala. A broken brain. That keeps doing this OVER AND OVER. Never leaving me alone.
15:50 * DashedRainbows ponies around
15:51 <Cepheid> I get that I put myself in this position. I get that I am responsible for my screwups. But yet it persists. This constant need to suffer. This constant need to punish. Is the fact that I am strapped for time not enough to appease it?
15:52 <Cepheid> Is the consequence of lower grades not enough? Of course it isnt. It never is with me.
15:52 <Cepheid> I can't keep doing this. This repetetive cycle of screwing up and then hating on myself endlesy. But you know what wouls really help?
15:53 <Cepheid> If I wasnt always stressed. If I wasn't always hating myself over things I did a week ago. A month ago. A year ago. Things that I keep doing because my brain keeps repeating the same thing over and over and interfering with my abikity to function.
15:54 <Cepheid> Gods I don't even know why I'm ranting. In two hours time I'll be right back at square one anyways. Might as well just let it all build up and cause me to punch a wall already.
16:02 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Makenshi: Emotional Celestia Vocal Chops Music: Age of Vinyl - Heroes of the Sky (Hay Tea Remix) [Liquid Drum & Bass] [ http://tinyurl.com/y2bg3kr6 ]
16:03 <Cepheid> I want to admit myself to security again because it's the only control I have right now.
16:03 <Cepheid> But if I do that, I'll fulfill the prophecy of being a screwup.
16:07 <ADragonDreaming> From a different perspective, realizing you're in a spiral and putting yourself in a position to control that spiral is the opposite of being a screwup
16:07 <Cepheid> But I can't stop the spiral. I tried.
16:08 <Cepheid> Look at the last friggen week for heavens sake. I had it all planned, I was to get this done, get that done, and what did I do? I didn't even remotely follow it. Instead i just used the excuse that I was sick to slack off like every other time.
16:08 <Cepheid> I can't stop the spiral even when I am aware of it and try to fix it.
16:08 <ADragonDreaming> Put less obliquely: I would not view putting yourself under supervision, if you recognize that's needed, as being a screwup
16:09 <Cepheid> I don't have time.
16:09 <Cepheid> In truth I have no real solution.
16:10 <Cepheid> If I don't admit myself, I'm going to screw up the exam. But if I do, I'm going to miss tyhe exam and n9thing good will happen either way. In the end I screw up.
16:10 <Cepheid> If I was smart, I would stop slacking off, be a good student, and actually study, but naaaah. Had to sleep for for 20 hours a day. Had to work on all the wrong things. Blame other people.
16:11 <Cepheid> I am incapable of functioning properly because I am a lazy scumbag asshole.
16:11 <Cepheid> I am the worst kind of person to be alive.
16:12 <ADragonDreaming> I don't believe that.
16:12 <Cepheid> I w9uld rather just stop being an annoyance or a burden upon everything but thats not the correct route.
16:12 <Cepheid> How many times is this going to happen?
16:12 <ADragonDreaming> Do you have a therapist?
16:12 <Cepheid> How many times a. i going to repeat this vicious cycle? I can't live like this. I don't want to.
16:13 <Cepheid> No. Because there aren't any available to take me on.
16:14 <Cepheid> And the bloody university doesn't 5ake me seriously because no matter ahst I do I always look like a sane and calm individual.
16:14 <Cepheid> I mean for crying out loud I told them I was going to injure myself and they just fucking ignored me.
16:15 <Cepheid> This university doesn't care. The hospitals don't care. No one friggen listens to me. Instead I just repeat this over and over. Then I calm down and look like nothing happened.
16:15 <Cepheid> Then the next week the same gods damned thing happens again.
16:16 <Cepheid> I want it to stop. I fucking hate this. I don't want to live like this. And as is, I don't want to be alive not because I think I'm a burden or anything, no.
16:16 <Cepheid> I don't want yo be alive if this, this endless fucking cycle, is what I have to look forward to for the rest of my life.
16:17 <Cepheid> You know what? Screw 5his. I'm calling security. This is getting stupid. I can't do my exam this way and nothing good is gonna come of it even if I calmed down.
16:19 * ADragonDreaming hugs
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16:59 * DashedRainbows brings Ali a stick
17:00 * Ali pat pats DashedRainbows, she want to chase the stick?
17:01 * DashedRainbows barks
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17:02 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Comic: Happy Nightmare Night / Addicted / Paper Heart 3 / Pone Wars 9:23 / TLA [ http://tinyurl.com/y5muwnra ]
17:04 * DashedRainbows yays and brings it back then sits by Ali chewing on the stick
17:04 <Ali> Youz a silly on DashedRainbows
17:04 <DashedRainbows> I guess yesterday was the local minimum
17:04 <Ali> Hmmm? It can be quiet here
17:05 <DashedRainbows> I meant mood-wise, but yeah it was quiet
17:05 <Ali> My mood is sadly sour still over pony ending and the playmat thing.
17:07 <DashedRainbows> That day I convinced myself little would change for me
17:08 <DashedRainbows> I'm still an anti-social freak
17:08 <DashedRainbows> actually
17:09 <Ali> I'm only active here
17:09 <Ali> Any other place I try to go to, I'm so dang shy.
17:09 <DashedRainbows> a better word is self-detrimental
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17:10 <DashedRainbows> It's hard to not be. I used to not talk to anyone. But now I know few people want to talk to me anyway
17:11 * Ali nods and hugs
17:12 <DashedRainbows> I'm rather dull because I don't trust ppl enough to be honest
17:13 <DashedRainbows> but also because I did nothing :|
17:13 <Cepheid> Right. I'm on my way to the civic hospital.
17:13 <Ali> For a normal thing I hope Cepheid
17:15 <DashedRainbows> ^ but if not, unlike my dad, I don't think it bad
17:16 <DashedRainbows> like really wtf, you shouldn't discourage someone suicidal from getting help
17:17 <Cepheid> Well, I need to go there for paychiatric reasons. But I guess I can also get my swollen hand checked out.
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17:17 <Cepheid> I can still move everything in it, but... Yeah. Swollen.
17:17 <Cepheid> I'm thinking of dropping out of university on mental health grounds.
17:17 <DashedRainbows> this was not recent btw, it's been 2 years
17:17 <DashedRainbows> also hmm
17:18 <Cepheid> Something about post-secondary education that just... It brings the worst out of me.
17:18 <DashedRainbows> might not be bad
17:18 <Cepheid> I was working hard all summer. The moment the semester started, everything just went... Sour.
17:18 <Cepheid> This isn't worth the damage it is doing to me.
17:18 <DashedRainbows> some ppl just can't handle it
17:18 <Cepheid> Sure. I get that degree. But what is the cost?
17:19 <Cepheid> Money is not my concern at this point. It is physical and mental health.
17:19 <DashedRainbows> I know I can't handle it
17:19 <Cepheid> If Inam unable to function afterwards, then what was the point?
17:20 <DashedRainbows> I'm barely managing three classes
17:20 <DashedRainbows> I just don't see it
17:21 <Cepheid> There's more than just myself at stake as well.
17:21 <Cepheid> My mental health meltdowns are taking a toll on those around me.
17:21 <DashedRainbows> unless you are being verbally or physically abused school is meh
17:21 <Cepheid> "Do your exam then go to the Civic Hospital, you need help that mom and I can't give you." My dad in regards to my meltdown.
17:22 <DashedRainbows> meh
17:22 <DashedRainbows> my dad: "just go home you'll be fine"
17:23 <DashedRainbows> not exactly suicidal more like just wanted to stop dialysis because I was tired of life
17:23 <DashedRainbows> obviously that's not an issue anymore
17:23 <DashedRainbows> not for a while anyway
17:27 * DashedRainbows lifts ponies. must lift...
17:30 <Cepheid> Yeah. Pretty sure I didn't break a bone. Probably ruptured a number of blood vessels though.
17:30 <DashedRainbows> oof
17:30 <Cepheid> Still got full flexibility in the hand.
17:31 <DashedRainbows> some ppl have luck with those things
17:31 <DashedRainbows> like me, I've only broken one bone
17:31 <Cepheid> Oh for the love of- I'm on the wrong bus.
17:34 <DashedRainbows> second only to the 'I missed my train that passes every hour' feeling
17:34 <DashedRainbows> that sucked
17:36 <DashedRainbows> err, not second to, worse than
17:39 <Cepheid> As for why no ambulance, because security managed to talk me down and felt that I'd be better off at health services rather than an ambulance to a random hospital. Basically I'm left on my own to get to the civic.
17:40 <DashedRainbows> in my terrible opinion ambulances should only be used in loss of consciousness or when it's likely
17:41 <Cepheid> Mmhmm. Apparently they are used for crises as well, especially ones where students are at risk.
17:41 * Cepheid looks at right hand, left wrist and elbow.
17:41 * DashedRainbows woul make a great dictator
17:41 <Cepheid> Guess this isn't considered a potential risk to students.
17:42 <DashedRainbows> Questionable
17:42 <Cepheid> Good ole cement. It doesn't budge no matter how hard ye hit it.
17:43 <DashedRainbows> ouch
17:45 <Ali> Sthap punching the ground and walls Cepheid
17:45 <Cepheid> Deserved it.
17:45 <DashedRainbows> how about no punching at all
17:46 <DashedRainbows> then again different ways to cope and all
17:47 <DashedRainbows> oh yeah, to look up the schedule for the ymca downtown
17:53 <Cepheid> Way I see it, I can either punch and hit walls and floors, or hit people. Which would then create an entirely new problem probably warranting tazering me.
17:55 <DashedRainbows> no comment...
17:55 <Cepheid> Still annoyed. Security once again ignores basic requests. Let me injure myself.
17:56 <Cepheid> They told me their excuse was concern over legal issues.
17:56 <Cepheid> Anyways time to transfer.
18:02 <Cepheid> Thanks OC. You directed me in the worst way imaginable. Waiting for the next bus would take more time than it would take me to walk the rest of the way.
18:02 <DashedRainbows> you should come to Dallas then <.<
18:02 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Ponies Apparently Apologize A Lot [ http://tinyurl.com/y3we5tr7 ]
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18:18 * DashedRainbows rolls around
18:22 <Cepheid> Right. Ow. Not at the hospital yet. But a constant uphill climb at a brisk pace is gnawing at my stomach.
18:22 <Cepheid> Why the hell was that security guard so vehement against an ambulance!?
18:33 * DashedRainbows shrugs
18:34 <Cepheid> At the hospital now.
18:34 <DashedRainbows> yay
18:36 <Cepheid> I made a terrible mistake though. I used an alcohol cleanser on my hands.
18:36 <DashedRainbows> oof
18:36 * Finwe hats on Ali.
18:37 * Ali squeakus
18:37 <DashedRainbows> hmm
18:37 <Finwe> o3o
18:37 * DashedRainbows fixes Ali's squeaker
18:40 * DashedRainbows sniffs Finwe too
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18:57 * PinkieShy hugs DashedRainbows tightly
18:58 * DashedRainbows rapid-fire boops PinkieShy's horn
19:02 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Open Art Event - Future Pony Submissions! [ http://tinyurl.com/y64le7bm ]
19:19 *** Joins: ChaosMageX-HTPC (CMXHTPC@Pony-nc32n2.tx.comcast.net)
19:22 * DashedRainbows licks a random pony
19:23 * PinkieShy hands DashedRainbows the cake
19:23 <DashedRainbows> the cake is a lie!
19:25 <DashedRainbows> hmm
19:25 <DashedRainbows> my messenger claims to be outputting sound
19:26 * DashedRainbows gives PinkieShy a stick then
19:45 *** Quits: ChaosMageX-HTPC (CMXHTPC@Pony-nc32n2.tx.comcast.net) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds)
19:46 *** Quits: PinkieShy (coolm@Pony-ck81je.67-212-45-net.sccoast.net) (Connection closed)
19:48 *** PurePurple is now known as Alexi
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19:51 *** Joins: Dranae (Scootaloo@I.Will.Fly.Higher)
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19:57 * DashedRainbows licks Ali and trots off to pen a song
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20:45 <Cepheid> Ow.
20:48 * Dranae screeches loudly.
20:48 <Dranae> reload ar101 torpedos 5
20:48 <Dranae> You don't see that ship here!
20:48 <Dranae> um
20:48 <Dranae> Not what I copied last
20:48 <Dranae> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66M4ZSjvGUQ
20:48 <Dranae> There we go
20:52 *** Parts: matttheshadowman (matttheshad@the.shadowy.corners) ()
20:53 <Cepheid> Man one of these days all these impacts to my right hand are gonna result in my bones making noises that will summon Cthulhu.
20:55 <Ali> Then sthap punching walls!
20:55 * Ali puts ice on Cepheid right hand
20:56 <Cepheid> No. :P The walls deserve it.
20:58 <Ali> What have the walls ever done to you! :P
21:01 <Cepheid> Closed in around me.
21:02 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Pony Community Soapbox #156 - Problems with Celestia, Rescuing Marble Pie, and More! [ http://tinyurl.com/y63kttq4 ]
21:04 <Dranae> Cepheid, I used to bang my head against a wall in schoo
21:04 <Dranae> l
21:05 <Dranae> Because our nurse wasn't allowed to handle bleeding wounds
21:05 <Dranae> So head + brick wall = blood = go home
21:05 <Dranae> One day
21:05 <Dranae> I broke the wall
21:06 *** Quits: Lumindia (quassel@Pony-45lvcs.pbg.ptd.net) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds)
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21:07 <Heartbreak> I like turtles.
21:08 <Cepheid> For some reason this psych ward is playing all the Halloween movies back to back.
21:09 <Ali> Cause that's really a great idea for a psych ward
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21:19 *** Alexi is now known as PurePurple
21:28 * DashedRainbows licks Heartbreak
21:30 *** Quits: RyuImperator (RyuImperato@Pony-stdga7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) (Connection closed)
21:33 <Reiko> Damn, damn, DAAMNN!!!!
21:35 <Heartbreak> Gaaaaaaaaaaaaaah! NO!
21:35 <Heartbreak> No licking me!
21:35 <Heartbreak> Please!
21:36 * DashedRainbows licks more. Tastes cute
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21:39 <Heartbreak> Gaaaaah Pffft PfffT Pfffffffft Stop it Dashed!
21:39 <Heartbreak> Instead!
21:39 <Heartbreak> https://www.deviantart.com/sabertooth1980/gallery/70973682/alternate-hearts
21:39 <Heartbreak> Look at these drawings of alternate versions of me.
21:42 <DashedRainbows> I prefer the cute mare in this channel
21:42 * DashedRainbows chews on her hooves
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21:44 <Cepheid> Discharged. Not much they can do unfortunately. They provided a doctors note and information for the school though.
21:44 <Cepheid> No more horror movie stabbing sounds and screaming.
21:44 *** Quits: Fn (Eogan@Pony-p0u092.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds)
21:47 <DashedRainbows> Not even a neuroleptic man...
21:47 <Heartbreak> One. I'm not cute.
21:47 <Heartbreak> Two, Why are you chewing your hooves?
21:47 <Heartbreak> Three: I'm not cute.
21:48 <Heartbreak> Four: We don't talk about fightclub.
21:49 <DashedRainbows> One : you are two, not mine and three, obstinate denial
21:50 * Sleeping_Nightmares climbs onto Heartbreak bacj
21:50 *** Sleeping_Nightmares is now known as Filly_Nightmares
21:50 * Filly_Nightmares meow
21:50 * Dranae stares at Heartbreak.
21:50 * Filly_Nightmares eees at Dranae!
21:50 <Dranae> 'Ni kyr'tayl gai sa'ad.
21:50 <Dranae> '
21:50 <Dranae> Now you're a Mandalorian
21:51 <Dranae> and double negatives instead imply extra emphasis on something
21:51 <Heartbreak> ._. What the fet, Filly_Nightmares off ma back.
21:51 <Dranae> Thus, you are supremely cute
21:51 <DashedRainbows> So cute
21:52 <DashedRainbows> Unlike Ali, who is most definitely not cute
21:53 * Ali ish not cute alright
21:57 * DashedRainbows sits on Filly_Nightmares who is on Heartbreak
21:57 <Heartbreak> D: Hey! Both of you! Get off my back!
21:57 <DashedRainbows> Pony ride
22:01 *** Quits: darkdoomer (kayanamasha@Pony-drmsa3.rev.numericable.fr) (Connection closed)
22:03 * Dranae thinks Ali is cute. Cuddles unicorn.
22:03 * Ali leans into Dranae cuddles but she's not cute.
22:04 <Dranae> how now
22:04 <Dranae> you fit every criterion!
22:04 <DashedRainbows> Giddy up, Heartbreak!
22:05 <Heartbreak> D: No! I don't do this! No Pony Rides! You get Noooooooooooooothings!
22:05 <DashedRainbows> She does cute things, Dranae, but she is not cute herself
22:06 <Dranae> Lies
22:06 * Dranae brushes Ali's mane.
22:06 * DashedRainbows looks at Heartbreak with teary eyes
22:19 <Cepheid> Getting home was strangely fast. Google maps indicated the highway was clogged to hell and back. It wasnt.
22:34 * Filly_Nightmares clutchies Heartbreak tightly!
22:34 * Filly_Nightmares is soft and floofy and warm and floofy and filly and floof! _
22:34 <Heartbreak> I'm not apologizing, DashedRainbows... I don't like it when you guys treat me like a riding pony...
22:37 <DashedRainbows> Fair enough
22:40 <Cepheid> Total damage today... Right hand, one direct punch to the wall, one side strike, and one strike with the back of my hand/wrist. Left hand... Well, arm, rather. Single hard strike from tip of hand down to elbow.
22:40 <Cepheid> In all a good day. o3o *Gets beat up by psychiatrists everywhere*
22:42 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by The Illustrious Q: Extended Preview for Feats of Friendship #2 Released [ http://tinyurl.com/y246jlkd ]
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23:04 * Cepheid sings the alphabet song *ALL WRONG*
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23:22 <Cepheid> Ow. I'm really feeling it now. Adrenaline must have completely worn off.
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23:43 * DashedRainbows licks PinkieShy and Ali
23:44 * PinkieShy squeaks
23:44 <DashedRainbows> hmm
23:48 * DashedRainbows flops over PinkieShy
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