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03:57 <ADragonDreaming> hoi
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04:17 <Hajnal> Ayo
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04:21 <PinkieShy> Is it weird i am getting my feet on the vent in the room under the desk xD
04:21 <PinkieShy> The hot air is just so good to them. Better than freezing every second >_>
04:22 <Tirek> You're contaminating your central air system with your footsies.
04:22 <Hajnal> Hi, Filly_Nightmares
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04:52 <MaredoggieRainbows> Writing about oneself is hard if you're trying to be nice
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05:58 * Cepheid plots the murder of some students.
06:01 <Cepheid> <Student> "I'm having problems working with these libraries." <Me> "... Fine." *Uses a different set of libraries.* "I uploaded changed code for you to work with. <Student> "Okay." *10 hours later, at TWELVE IN THE ******* EVENING* "I still can't build it." <Me> "..."
06:01 <Cepheid> How are these two even third-year students?
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06:06 <Cepheid> The worst part though is that the initial libraries we were using? I walked this student through how to build them and make use of them.
06:06 <Cepheid> I even watched him build the project source code and run it.
06:27 <Cepheid> https://twitter.com/Aqua7516YK/status/1196070610675224576 ... Man that is one big mantis.
06:38 <PinkieShy> hmm
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07:02 <ConfusionRift> Hello everypony.
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07:15 <luckyspirit> Morning
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07:32 <Cepheid> Hum... Yggdroids. I wonder what takes priority first. Overheat damage, or end-of-turn healing.
07:33 <Cepheid> Yggdroids apparently have the potential to do the most damage out of all classes in the game, potentially reaching the damage cap(9999 damage)
07:34 <Cepheid> This is presumably done through HP Cannon.
07:34 <Cepheid> HP Cannon basically does damage based on a ratio of current to maximum HP. Lower current HP, the greater the damage.
07:34 <Cepheid> Overheat synergizes with this.
07:34 <Cepheid> Overheat increases your overall damage, at the cost of taking damage.
07:35 <Cepheid> At maximum level, which is required for HP Cannon, this cost is ~128 damage a turn. It can't kill you, though.
07:35 <Cepheid> Long story short, set your Yggdroid in the back row, let it drain HP, bring it to the front row, HP Cannon.
07:37 <Cepheid> Whelp, there's about 15 minutes of progress lost.
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07:38 * Cepheid works again from the start, but chooses to max Virus Scanner first, to prevent what just happened.
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07:44 <Cepheid> That all said, I'm not sure I want to do an HP Cannon Yggdroid. Their skills kind of synergize with other classes.
07:44 <Cepheid> Especially Core Dump and Sleep Mode.
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07:45 <Cepheid> Sleep Mode causes the Yggdroid to recover N TP per bind, per level of Sleep Mode. Core Dump binds all body parts. Thus, at maximum level, Sleep Mode restores 10 TP per bind, and there's a maximum of 3 binds possible, for a grand total of 30 TP per turn.
07:45 <Cepheid> That's half of the Yggdroid's TP.
07:45 <Cepheid> Which starts at 60, and never increases. Ever.
07:49 <Cepheid> Hum, I guess Roger's DNS is borked.
07:50 <Cepheid> Anyhow, yeah. Yggdroids are... best synergized with a subclass, or built to a specific configuration. They have ungodly high strength and vitality, making them great physical attackers or defenders. So any melee, TP-heavy class, or Hoplite, are good combinations. Their TEC stat is middling, so magic isn't the best, but it's viable.
07:51 <Cepheid> Top of the list, Hoplite(Defensive class, protects others,) Gladiator(Hit things until they die class), Monk(Punch things until they die class, also heals. Great for solo runs.)
07:53 * ConfusionRift flops hard
07:54 <Cepheid> Right now, I have an Yggdroid by the name of Luna, no subclass, wandering through the dungeon solo, auto-battling everything to death.
07:55 <ConfusionRift> Hehehe.
07:55 <Cepheid> When you get to end-game, this becomes viable on the grounds that you can buy super-expensive gear that can increase stats to insane levels.
07:55 <Cepheid> Even at level 1, her attack stat was over 300.
07:55 <ConfusionRift> Boost for the wiiiin.
07:55 <Cepheid> Thinking of using her as a front-line melee, fighter. Schism's lost his appeal for physical damage. Too weak, stat-wise, for melee damage due to his build.
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07:56 <Cepheid> And, I'll be honest, Filly, the farmer, is losing her appeal. Yeah, she gives +30% EXP, but.. At the cost of what?
07:56 <Cepheid> She's a farmer. She has the defensive strength of a piece of paper, and the musculature of a piece of overcooked spaghetti noodles.
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07:58 <ConfusionRift> "Okay guys... I got this!" | Wait, no! Don't-! | "AaaaaAAAAAH!!!" (patty slaps the enemy)
07:58 <ConfusionRift> ...
07:58 <Cepheid> Pretty much.
07:58 <Cepheid> The Farmer's skills are basically field buffs, mostly, and EXP increase.
07:59 <Cepheid> But every stat they have is basically minimal, with one exception.
07:59 <Cepheid> They appear to have the highest luck, by far.
07:59 <Cepheid> Speaking of slapping, they do actually have a slapping skill, Rifty.
07:59 <Cepheid> "Slap Awake" "Revive an ally. Used only from the main menu."
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08:01 * Cepheid autobattles the first boss.
08:02 <Cepheid> The highest damage she took was 6 damage.
08:03 <Cepheid> And yeah, she has an HP boost because of the Armoroad Emblem, but it's +100. Without it, she has 183 HP. So she took no more than 3.3% of her maximum base HP in damage.
08:04 <ConfusionRift> Hmm, Nova Drift looks interesting... oh, early access, pffftttt.
08:05 <Cepheid> It's unfortunate that "Early Access" has such a negative connotation now.
08:05 <Cepheid> It's not an area for me to make money from anymore.
08:06 <ConfusionRift> Well, see, I don't mind early access. The problem is when I see something that kinda looks solid, but it's not complete. So there's some room for it to fall over, or I would have to wait for it to get better. (points at Trail Makers)
08:07 <ConfusionRift> Oh, and Terra Tech, which is past 1.0, but it's still kinda on early access territory.
08:07 <ConfusionRift> That one bothers me.
08:07 <Cepheid> Mmm.
08:07 <Cepheid> Hum, HP growth is pretty substantial on Yggdroids. Level 21, 204 HP.
08:07 <ConfusionRift> And then we got Space Engineers...
08:10 <ConfusionRift> It's no longer on early access, but it's still going through waves of hotfixes, which is good. It just makes me wonder.
08:10 <Cepheid> Mmm.
08:10 <Cepheid> Unfortunately, hotfixes are always a thing, no matter the phase.
08:10 <Cepheid> Ideally, I wish more games did quick hotfixes.
08:11 <Cepheid> Having to wait for major revisions to get fixes for bugs that have existed for months is... yeah.
08:11 <Ali> I see Factorio is now .17.77
08:11 * Cepheid takes off the Armoroad Emblem. Loses 100 HP, but replaces it with a Hex Crystal, which increases curse resistance. Combined with Virus Scanner, if a curse gets through, something has gone HORRIBLY WRONG.
08:12 <ConfusionRift> Then again, the scope of SE is just... huuuge. So bugs will likely remain for a long time, especially when everything collapses with every few updates.
08:12 * ConfusionRift pokes Ali. :P
08:13 <ConfusionRift> I'm really behind on that too.
08:13 <Cepheid> RNG is making a fool of me right now.
08:13 <Cepheid> Keep trying to set up this FOE battle, but every time I'm one step from starting it..
08:13 <Cepheid> I get a random battle, and have to re-set up the FOE battle.
08:13 <ConfusionRift> RNG is always a fools game. :P
08:14 <ConfusionRift> Screw it, getting it.
08:14 * Cepheid fights FOE, curse doesn't hit anymore, but learns it can also apply sleep. o3o;
08:15 <ConfusionRift> It's Warning Forever, with the random generation similar to Beat Hazard.
08:16 * Cepheid maxes Data Mining. +90% Crit damage, +10% Crit Chance.
08:16 <Cepheid> This is where the Yggdroid's stats are a tad annoying, though.
08:16 <Cepheid> Their LUC is low. LUC determines crit chance.
08:16 <ConfusionRift> Steam: "Maybe watching this streamer play it will help persuade you." | That guy saw lasers, and immediately kamikaze'd on the boss. No thanks.
08:17 * Cepheid determines best way to improve LUC for increasing crit chance.
08:18 <Cepheid> There's +CRIT chance accessories. Deathly Belt, +5 CRIT. Not sure what the overall effect is.
08:18 <ConfusionRift> Never mind! It's a roguelite.
08:18 <Cepheid> Meanwhile, for weapons, there's Dragonbane, which is, by default, the best gods damned weapon in the game.
08:19 <Cepheid> Sword, +181 ATK. There are higher ATK weapons, but nothing has this thing beat in terms of slots. 8 slots for forging various effects, like OHKO, ATK+, DEF+, etc.
08:19 <Cepheid> Catch? Gotta kill the 3 elemental dragons EIGHT TIMES to fill those slots.
08:19 <Cepheid> By the time it's ready though, it'll be a legendary weapon, if it's built properly for the relevant character.
08:20 * ConfusionRift sighs. "Now that I got Blaster Master Zero 1-2, it's now on Steam. Oh well."
08:20 <Cepheid> Yeah, I know.
08:20 <Cepheid> Hum.. stat-wise for armor, LUC is primarily on cloth armor. And it's not a huge boost either. +1 or +3, depending on gear. Shoes and Shield offer +3 LUC.
08:21 <Cepheid> So I can get a maximum of +6 to LUC, probably another +8 using the Dragonbane, but if there's a +CRIT, I'd be better off with that. Might also be better off with just plain +ATK in all the slots, to push it as far as it'll go, ATK-wise.
08:22 <ConfusionRift> Actually, seems they got ported recently. The sequel releases on the 29th. Hmm. And still waiting on Shantae, despite my absolute hatred to what they did.
08:24 <Cepheid> Hum, are there any classes focused around criticalling, I wonder..?
08:24 <ConfusionRift> Steam, why the heck will I want any of the sports games?! They're just stupidly expensive DLCs... which also have DLCs.
08:24 <ConfusionRift> Maybe, there usually is a class focused on a stat that criticals more often.
08:25 <ConfusionRift> Or achieves higher critical than other classes.
08:25 <ConfusionRift> Then again, EO is not exactly a standard RPG.
08:26 <Cepheid> Yeah, Buccaneer.
08:26 <Cepheid> They have one.
08:26 <Cepheid> They also have some good skills for regular attacks.
08:26 <Cepheid> Swashbuckling: Normal attacks may strike multiple times.
08:27 <Cepheid> Lady Luck: Normal attacks have a higher probability of being critical.
08:27 <Cepheid> Ironically, I need a buccaneer.
08:28 <Cepheid> There's also the Arbalist. Though their critical rate skill is conditional.
08:28 <ConfusionRift> Oooooh, I take it aaaaall back. There's this game called Endless Sky. It was released 4 years ago... and it's still on beta.
08:29 <Cepheid> Night Vision: Critical hit rate significantly increases during nighttime.
08:29 <Cepheid> Of course, controlling night vs day isn't a problem. With one exception.
08:30 <ConfusionRift> I will never find something close to the old InnerSpace... then again, seems everyone hated it.
08:30 <Cepheid> Question. This InnerSpace, was it a game where you flew around a void and shot at icons?
08:30 * ConfusionRift nods.
08:30 <Cepheid> ...
08:31 <Cepheid> I thought I was the only one who ever played that.
08:31 <ConfusionRift> Well, captured icons, unless infected. You could grab them anyways, but ooohboooy is that a mistake.
08:31 <Cepheid> Right, right.
08:31 <Cepheid> Infected icons you destroy, meanwhile the good ones you collected. With a *sloop* sound.
08:32 * ConfusionRift nods.
08:32 * ConfusionRift still remembers how he got arrested for accidentally shooting a patrol ship.
08:33 <ConfusionRift> I also remember the many times I would rush to collect stuff, and lose control upon exit and just explode by the gate. :P
08:33 <Cepheid> Heh.
08:33 * Filly_Nightmares kneasd ConfusionRift
08:33 <Cepheid> I could probably recreate that game, modernize it.
08:34 <Cepheid> The problem is, I'd have to put warnings everywhere that no information is collected, and that damaging icons does not damage your filesystem in any way.
08:34 * ConfusionRift booples Filly_Nightmares.
08:34 <ConfusionRift> Now that I think of it, that game would be technically considered my fist meta style game.
08:34 <ConfusionRift> *first
08:35 <Cepheid> Between Arbalist and Buccaneer, I'm thinking... Hmm. What do the two classes have, skill-wise? Buccaneer has the head binding skill going for it straight out, but that's situational.
08:35 <ConfusionRift> Those were actually programs and files, and the game would depict their type and format.
08:35 <Cepheid> Yeah.
08:35 <Cepheid> I know, I know.
08:36 <Cepheid> I understand how the game worked under the hood, a loooong time ago.
08:36 <Cepheid> Arbalist has crossbows, which means attacking from either row is sufficient. The night-time crit stuff is situational, but manipulating time isn't difficult, so.. It also has the skill Double Action.
08:36 <Cepheid> Which causes skills used to sometimes trigger twice.
08:36 <Cepheid> Has elemental damage skills, as well.
08:37 <Cepheid> Ambush is nice, too. Increase chance of first strike.
08:37 <ConfusionRift> Endless Sky was the closest thing I have seen, but it didn't help that the game just tossed you with no documentation, horrible keybindings, and had no idea what was going on. Then again, was long ago.
08:37 * ConfusionRift wikis to check. Has no idea about EO. :P
08:38 <Cepheid> Buccaneer, meanwhile, is all melee. Uses rapiers or guns. Seems to be an elemental chaser class. Has that swashbuckling skill, and the general purpose crit increase skill. Also has a skill for increasing the encounter rate, which can speed grinding until I can kill the dragons sufficiently easily.
08:38 <Cepheid> Well, half melee.
08:39 <Cepheid> Arbalist sounds better overall, though. Having the ability to put the character in either row, and no chaser skills. Chaser skills are annoying.
08:39 <Cepheid> They basically involve the character not doing anything for the turn, initially. When a character attacks with a specific damage type, the chaser skill activates and does a follow-up attack.
08:39 <Cepheid> Only useful if you have a lot of characters using the same damage type.
08:41 <Cepheid> Meanwhile, Arbalist is skill-heavy, but has all sorts of damage types available. Elemental, ice/fire/volt, piercing damage, the double action is nice. I think I'll go with Arbalist.
08:41 <Cepheid> Not like it's a permanent choice, either.
08:43 <Cepheid> Bolt Mastery +8(Not enough levels to max it yet), grab the strongest crossbow in the game..
08:43 <Cepheid> ...
08:43 <Cepheid> She has 500 Attack Power at level 26.
08:43 <Cepheid> What the hell.
08:45 <Cepheid> She's doing 600+ damage to stratum 2 monsters with crits. 350+ normal attacks.
08:45 <ConfusionRift> Okay, so from what I can gather... Buccaneers seems to be a middle ground in terms of attack and defense. They can do the damage, but are more dependent on skills. They can use both melee and range weapons, but seems that range is not their forte. Arbalists, just as them, can fight either front of back rows... however, they're more range oriented, and they have lower defense over attack.
08:45 <Cepheid> Yeah. The stats don't matter when subclassing.
08:45 <Cepheid> The character gains nothing stat-wise from the class when they subclass.
08:46 <Cepheid> Hum, I wonder.
08:46 * Cepheid checks something.
08:46 <Cepheid> 79 ATK without a weapon equipped.. 500 if the crossbow is equipped. It provides +199 ATK.
08:46 <Cepheid> Interesting.
08:47 <Cepheid> It's like armor. It's not a static STR + Weapon ATK = Final Attack
08:47 <Cepheid> That's an extra 222 ATK on top. Not sure how much of that is from the Bolt Mastery.
08:48 <Cepheid> Defense meanwhile, uses a scaling mechanism in which each point of VIT increases the amount of defense one gets from armor. It's probably a similar setup with STR and weapon attack.
08:48 <Cepheid> Which means at max level, Luna's attack power is going to be through the roof.
08:49 <Cepheid> Looks like each point of STR at Bolt Mastery 8 increases ATK by 4 points. Got one level, so let's boost the mastery.
08:49 <Cepheid> Still 504. So mastery doesn't affect the ATK stat displayed.
08:54 <Cepheid> Hum, level 30. An important level. Nothing special, just the level that characters are returned to after retiring.
08:55 * Cepheid starts work on Sleep Mode, since future skill gains are gonna require TP restoration.
08:56 <Cepheid> I need to test the effectiveness of the mastery skills for damage. I'm not seeing much of an improvement from the 2 remaining levels.
08:56 <Cepheid> If any.
08:58 <Cepheid> Heavens help me if any of these FOEs manage to curse me. It's still possible. Had it happen earlier, even with the Hex Gem and Virus Scanner.
08:58 <Cepheid> Long story short, if I get cursed, it's game over. The FOEs all go first. If curse lands, I'll deal 400+ damage to an enemy, and then take the same amount of damage in return.
08:58 <Cepheid> Luna has 244 HP.
09:02 <Cepheid> One level got her 6 HP. Hell of a growth rate, there. And that's not even including HP UP.
09:02 * Cepheid pokes stratum 2 boss.
09:02 <Cepheid> Right, I'll need accessories for that.
09:04 <Cepheid> Virus Scanner maxed, +++++ Paralysis resist..
09:04 <Cepheid> And the first attack he lands?
09:04 <Cepheid> Paralyzes me.
09:04 <ConfusionRift> Pfffftttt!
09:04 <Cepheid> And it lasts a staggering TEN TURNS.
09:05 * ConfusionRift laughs.
09:05 * ConfusionRift pokes at Luna. "You okay? ... ...ohboy."
09:05 <Cepheid> I still won.
09:05 <Cepheid> Paralysis isn't as crippling as some games.
09:06 <Cepheid> It just has a high probability of preventing you from making a move.
09:06 <Cepheid> So you still have a chance to cure it, even on a solo run.
09:07 <Cepheid> Though at 9,900 EXP, I'm not sure that was worth the trouble.
09:10 <Cepheid> Onto the next stratum, I suppose.
09:10 <Cepheid> Sleep Mode 5... that's 15 TP/turn for complete binding. That'll do for now, I suppose. Next on the list, hmm..
09:11 <Cepheid> Double Action needs Front Mortar 4 and Armor Piercer 4, so I guess I'll go for that next.
09:14 <Cepheid> FOEs on the first floor of stratum 3 aren't worth it either. 7000 or so EXP. A single normal battle gets me about 3000 EXP, for less trouble. o3o
09:15 * Filly_Nightmares climbs onto ConfusionRift and meows
09:15 * Filly_Nightmares shiver
09:16 * ConfusionRift huggles Filly_Nightmares warm. :P
09:17 * Cepheid notes to self: Keep Hex Gem on, confusion hits quite frequently despite Virus Scanner.
09:18 <ConfusionRift> I have that kind of effect on ponies. :P
09:18 * ConfusionRift confuses everypony all the tiiiime.
09:19 * Filly_Nightmares sneezies at ConfusionRift
09:19 <Cepheid> Nothing like watching your characters kill themselves.
09:19 <Ali> It hurt itself in its confusion
09:23 <Cepheid> Essentially.
09:30 <Cepheid> Hum, damage is starting to get a little much. Either gonna need to bring in a second character, or start grinding in places where I can encounter controlled sets of enemies.
09:37 <Cepheid> Not crush, not slice. So that damage must be pierce.
09:38 <Cepheid> 10 forked tails needed for the pierce amulet..
09:38 <ConfusionRift> "Not pierce." | Then what? | "Internal damage." | ... (feels hurt)
09:39 <Cepheid> If I can't increase defense significantly enough to reduce damage, then resistance will have to suffice. :P
09:39 <Cepheid> Enough of it, and I can reduce even 100s of damage to just 1-3.
09:43 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Some Possible Writers for Pony Life Revealed? [ http://tinyurl.com/v9xtbfn ]
09:44 <Cepheid> Best example of this is usually with the dragons.
09:44 <Cepheid> They all have breath attacks that deal in the area of 600 damage to the entire party. Only a few classes can break 600 HP.
09:44 <Cepheid> So the solution is to apply a bunch of amulets to the party, and use elemental-resistance buff skills. Or, in the case of EO3, a Zodiac's prophecy skill, which just plain negates elemental damage.
09:47 * ConfusionRift thinks on getting back to a building game. Not sure which.
09:47 <ConfusionRift> Yeah, Trail Makers will do.
09:48 * Cepheid takes Luna down to stratum 5 while searching for items. Might as well get her some EXP from the hunting, even if it's split 5-ways thanks to full party.
09:51 <Cepheid> Bah. Because of the dragons, Cepheid's missing a nice, critical skill that makes survival down here much easier.
09:53 <Cepheid> It'll take her 15 levels to get it maxed out again, but I'll keep her as she is rather than Rest her. The extra skill I targeted is worth keeping on hand.
09:54 <Cepheid> Looks like Filly will be the first to break level 70.
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09:55 <Cepheid> Not sure how I feel about a farmer being the first to break past level 70. o3o
09:56 <ConfusionRift> :P
09:56 <Cepheid> Huh, the Drake is already back. Didn't think I rested 14 times yet.
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10:03 <Cepheid> Hmm. Binary skills require level 5 in their respective elemental skills. That's... another 12 points total. Then the binary skills themselves are 10 levels each, so 30 + 12 = 42. Zodiac is level 49. That leaves... 50 levels left. +3 points you get for subclassing.
10:06 <Cepheid> Hilariously, she doesn't actually need the binary skills. They're helpful for grinding, but for the true final boss, there's no point.
10:12 <Cepheid> Geezus, 7 tails sold and still no unlock. You'd have assumed my first traversal through the stratum, I'd have collected like, one or two tails..
10:19 <Cepheid> ...
10:19 <Cepheid> Oh my gods.
10:19 <Cepheid> I was targeting the wrong item.
10:19 <ConfusionRift> Wah wah waaaaaawaawaaah.
10:19 <ConfusionRift> That sucks.
10:22 * ConfusionRift wasn't going at full speed. Accidentally boops a tree with the cockpit, and the car explodes.
10:23 <Cepheid> Hollywood car physics.
10:29 <Cepheid> Worth pointing out, despite being level 37 while the rest of the party is on average level 60 or higher, Luna is still dealing damage comparable to the rest of the party.
10:31 <Cepheid> There we are. Pierce Amulet.
10:33 * Cepheid equips enough gear to get +9 Pierce Resistance.
10:34 <Koopz> today's the day... my first time attending a big concert... and i'm gonna see two of my favorite bands on stage *_* Alter Bridge and Shinedown
10:34 <Koopz> i'm majorly hyped
10:34 <Cepheid> Have fun!
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10:35 <Koopz> and will probably cry
10:36 <Cepheid> ... The red ants do not use pierce damage.
10:43 * Cepheid goes to grind a bit in the grotto against FOEs.
10:46 * Cepheid sighs as he watches improbable events occur. "I'm gonna go take a shower and take a short break from this."
10:46 <ConfusionRift> Heh,
10:58 <Cepheid> Debating using emulation to speed up grinding.
10:58 <Cepheid> I can rip the save file from the cart, run the game on my PC upstairs at super speed, and just hold down a button to grind away.
11:00 <Cepheid> The alternative is the Scylla glitch.
11:00 <Cepheid> Which works via RNG abuse.
11:03 <Cepheid> The game doesn't seed it's RNG when it starts up from a cold boot or software reset. And there's a select sequence of inputs that, when input from the title menu, will result in an NPC character performing a OHKO on Scylla on the first turn.
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11:05 <Cepheid> Then there's Pasaran farming, which is a bit trickier to do, but results in 999,999 EXP.
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11:09 <Cepheid> Which, thinking about it, is probably how end-game farming is supposed to be done.
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11:24 <Cepheid> Yeah, sequence of events for Scylla trick is this: Select sea quest, save, soft reset, load, select sea quest, don't save, select scylla quest, on the first turn, defend. NPC will summon a tiger, who proceeds to use it's Instant Death ability on Scylla, which always kills.
11:28 <Cepheid> And it seems to be pretty effective. In the short few minutes since I wrote how to do it, I gained over 250,000 EXP.
11:31 <Cepheid> Hmm, no, less than that. The game considers the NPC as part of the party when dividing EXP, so I get half of what's advertised.
11:43 <Cepheid> That said, not a fan of it. For some reason, it feels worse than simply going into the depths and grinding.
12:07 <ConfusionRift> Hmm, game has a sense of humor. Putting an explosive debris chunk way up high.
12:07 <Cepheid> Hell I like it even less than the approach I used in EO5. There is a DLC quest you can purchase that gives you scaling EXP amounts based on the deepest floor you've reached. I used it after I managed to get the entire party to level 99. Three times.
12:08 <Cepheid> There, I at least pulled off level 99 without the DLC. Multiple times. And after a point it became just a pointless grind that made it hard to test new strategies.
12:09 <Cepheid> Which was a big deal because spending hours to days just to try one strategy out only to find it isn't viable is...
12:16 <Cepheid> Regarding fair methods in EO3, it seems the best source of EXP are the dragons at 200000 EXP a piece.
12:17 <Cepheid> Which equates to 40000 EXP per character. If a farmer is involved...
12:18 <Cepheid> 260000 a piece. Or 52000 per character.
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12:20 <Cepheid> For a total of... 156000 per character a cycle. Which isn't a lot. Add in the three superbosses beside... 293800.
12:21 <Angie> Cepheid, play Hollow Knight?
12:21 <Cepheid> I have, yes.
12:23 <ConfusionRift> Still haven't beaten that one. (sighs) Boss ain't fun.
12:31 <Angie> Which one?
12:31 <Angie> I can give you tips for almost any HK boss
12:32 <ConfusionRift> I believe it should be the last one. Don't remember the name.
12:32 <Angie> Gigantic murdermoth?
12:32 <Angie> Or the tall spindly boi
12:33 <ConfusionRift> Giant murder moth of death and despair.
12:33 <Angie> Yeah I haven't actually beaten that one yet.
12:33 <Angie> :(
12:33 * ConfusionRift chuckles.
12:33 <Angie> Truly a moth worthy of this
12:33 <Angie> https://theproudparents.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/dad-is-dead-love-moth.jpg
12:34 <Angie> Or even this
12:34 <Angie> https://i.imgur.com/eOddm10.jpg
12:34 <ConfusionRift> That be a big moth.
12:35 <ConfusionRift> Well, they don't do much, so heh. :P
12:35 <Angie> I'm also trying to beat a very powerful optional boss.
12:35 <Angie> Grimm
12:38 <ConfusionRift> Hmm, never really done that one. Some pretty nasty requirements.
12:39 <Angie> Really?
12:39 <Angie> The minibosses aren't bad
12:39 <Angie> I've also got to poke my head into the Godhome stuff
12:39 <Angie> Eurgh
12:41 <Cepheid> https://twitter.com/Aqua7516YK/status/1196070610675224576?s=19
12:43 <Angie> Yeah that's how some of the HK fights feel
12:43 <Angie> It's a good feel
12:47 <ConfusionRift> Well, when you actually beat the boss, yeah. Feels great... and then the next one rolls in. :P
12:47 <Angie> guuuuuh
12:47 <Angie> My worst fight was Watcher Knights
12:48 <Angie> Though hilariously, I was streaming when I got to Dung Defender
12:48 <Angie> And while focusing on the boss fight I unwittingly used (what I thought was an obvious) strategy that one of my watchers swore up and down could not have been an 'honest first try'
12:48 <Angie> I'm like 'dude he dove underground and I got a ground pound attack why would I not use it'
12:50 <Angie> Also, screw the designers of white palace that is all
12:50 <ConfusionRift> ^ Full agreement.
12:50 <Angie> I also streamed that one
12:51 <Angie> I made it through it and the stream told me
12:51 <Angie> 'You know you cheesed like four of the worst sections?'
12:51 <ConfusionRift> "You have to earn that ending."
12:51 <ConfusionRift> And ending that one can still screw up.
12:52 <Angie> Gotta say though
12:52 <Angie> the best moment of HK so far
12:52 <Angie> Hornet screaming at me
12:52 <Angie> GIT.
12:52 <Angie> GUD.
12:55 <ConfusionRift> Thanks, Arin. For showing me exactly why I never went for the Retron 5.
12:59 * ConfusionRift takes it back.
13:00 <ConfusionRift> He's running "third party" carts. They often break to pieces from the start.
13:05 <ConfusionRift> Actually... hmmmm.
13:07 * Cepheid consumes cough syrup that tastes like what he assumes soggy, moldy mothballs taste like
13:11 * ConfusionRift chuckles at Arin barely finding out what they do with the 999999 Games in One carts. :P
13:24 <Cepheid> So my group mates just pushed some code. It is code written by the professor, repurposed in a simplistic wrapper. They wrote all of ten lines. And one of them is completely wrong and breaks the build. I'm gonna be doing this all by myself aren't I?
13:24 <Angie> Cepheid, don't you just love Horney
13:24 <Angie> Hornet*
13:26 * ConfusionRift finds Hornet, and glue another horn on her head. "Boom, Ms. Horney!" He feels a fight happening...
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13:29 <Koopz> https://www.deviantart.com/aleximusprime/art/Tirek-yelling-at-Cozy-Glow-820750701
13:29 <ConfusionRift> Pfffttt!
13:29 <Cepheid> A lot of people like her. Probably why Team Cherry decided to make the DLC into its own game instead.
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14:02 <ConfusionRift> Aaaaand, sleep time. Laters!
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14:50 * MaredoggieRainbows feels an ominous presence. Anyway, morning
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14:53 <LibrarianofHope> morning
14:55 * MaredoggieRainbows chews on LibrarianofHope in greeting
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14:59 <Heartbreak> ...
15:01 * MaredoggieRainbows stands up on her hind hooves and scratches at Heartbreak
15:08 <Schism> Behold my saddest moment in a Mahjong game that I have EVER HAD. https://imgur.com/a/wXxrl2A
15:12 <Schism> All pon/kan, SEVEN dora tiles, and the hand drew because someone else was holding onto those damned East winds.
15:17 * Heartbreak pulls away from MaredoggieRainbows.
15:20 * MaredoggieRainbows whimpers at Heartbreak. Is bad horsey.
15:24 <Heartbreak> Why am -I- the _bad_ one?
15:25 <MaredoggieRainbows> Hmm, bad word order
15:29 * MaredoggieRainbows licks the Heartbreak mare a lot
15:30 <Heartbreak> Gah! Stop that!
15:31 * MaredoggieRainbows is bad doggy.
15:32 * Schism loves anyway, and provides a bacon sandwich with lots of tomato, bacon, lettuce, and bacon.
15:32 <MaredoggieRainbows> Sounds yummy
15:38 * MaredoggieRainbows stands and begs
16:03 * Schism flops back in, provides with said bacon sammich.
16:18 * Heartbreak raspberries.
16:19 * Heartbreak boops Schismm
16:22 <Heartbreak> I drew up what could almost be a webcomic sort of sequence of drawings.
16:28 * Schism headtilts? And adds pomace to flowers.
16:41 <Heartbreak> https://www.deviantart.com/sabertooth1980/art/Alternate-Hearts-Splinteredheart-1-820688259
16:43 <Heartbreak> That's the first drawing...
16:46 <Heartbreak> Should I post the rest, or ya want ta go through my gallery instead?
16:49 <Schism> I shall go through the gallery. o3o;
16:49 <Schism> Sorry I'm not really responsive right now.
17:03 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Makenshi: The Smiths Ponification Music: Maressey - Some Mares are Bigger Than Others [Alt. Rock] [ http://tinyurl.com/s5bvgp2 ]
17:05 * Heartbreak starts booping Schism. "Are you really that responsive these days?"
17:14 * MaredoggieRainbows sniffs the Heartbreak. How horsey
17:15 * Schism flops. "I am not. I am working long shifts these days."
18:03 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: My Little Pony Comic Dub Compilation #49 [ http://tinyurl.com/sfffrhy ]
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18:24 <Lumindia_> @schism Still no world 2nd for Alex Ultimate
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18:27 <LibrarianofHope> morning stuff donw
18:27 <LibrarianofHope> owo
18:36 <MaredoggieRainbows> woo
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19:03 *** ChanServ sets mode: +qo Ali Ali
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19:03 <LibrarianofHope> Ali
19:03 <LibrarianofHope> yay
19:03 * Ali squeaks
19:03 * LibrarianofHope glomps ali
19:03 * Ali splats
19:04 * MaredoggieRainbows stands on her hind hooves and scratches at Ali
19:04 * Ali ruffles MaredoggieRainbows mane
19:05 * MaredoggieRainbows barks and begs
19:24 * Cepheid awakens again. Exhausted.
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19:35 <Cepheid> Luna has an inexplicably high amount of HP.
19:36 <Cepheid> Character with the highest HP is level 65, at 423 HP.
19:36 <MaredoggieRainbows> how is the Ali-corn today?
19:37 <LibrarianofHope> made me thonk of corn on the cob
19:37 <LibrarianofHope> im hingry
19:37 <MaredoggieRainbows> ali contains no actual corn
19:38 * Ali isn't feeling too well today.
19:38 <LibrarianofHope> nuuuu
19:38 <LibrarianofHope> wuts wrong
19:38 * MaredoggieRainbows hugs the Ali horse
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19:51 <Cepheid> Well that sucks. The Scylla trick breaks if I use a formaldehyde, so I can't get easy rare drop from her.
19:53 <Schism> Man. 4-manning Deltascape was a lot of fun. Alte Roite we skipped, but we took down Catastrophe, Halicarnassus and Exdeath without much issue at all.
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20:02 <Cepheid> Bah, I have to relearn all the details of the sixth stratum monsters. Their weaknesses, etc.
20:02 * Cepheid opens a notepad.
20:03 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: My Little Pony Custom and Craft Compilation #161 [ http://tinyurl.com/yxyyq3yl ]
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20:13 <Cepheid> If things continue at their current rate, Schism will break level 70 first, now.
20:13 <PinkieShy> My sample pack finally came :D
20:14 <PinkieShy> The waffle they sent me is apparently strawberry flavor protein food.
20:15 * MaredoggieRainbows licks PinkieShy a lot
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20:19 <LibrarianofHope> the epic rap battle guys might have a leaker
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20:19 <LibrarianofHope> a random channel showed audio of an unrealeased song, and it seems legit
20:22 <Lumindia_> @Schism
20:22 <Lumindia_> World second has been claimed!
20:22 <Schism> Nice!
20:22 <Lumindia_> https://clips.twitch.tv/ShyPlumpDunlinBudBlast
20:23 <Schism> I just ran a few more difficult runs. o3o;
20:23 <Lumindia_> asdfjioawejfiojawioejf they did it
20:23 <LibrarianofHope> world second waht?
20:23 <Lumindia_> Alexander Ultimate
20:23 <Schism> Clear of an extreme boss.
20:23 <Lumindia_> the hardest fight in the game this far
20:23 <Lumindia_> not just extreme
20:23 <Lumindia_> Ultimate
20:23 <Lumindia_> Extreme fights are JOKES compared to ultimate
20:24 <LibrarianofHope> like dark souls hard?
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20:25 <Cepheid> Harder.
20:25 <Schism> Any member of the party screws up once, the fight's over.
20:25 <Cepheid> Raids in MMOs are usually things that require exacting plans to take care of.
20:25 <Schism> Well, okay, twice.
20:26 <Cepheid> Sorta like what I have to deal with in the game I'm playing.
20:26 * LibrarianofHope leroooooy jenkins a loot
20:26 <LibrarianofHope> librariiaaaan of Hopppppe
20:27 * MaredoggieRainbows sits on LibrarianofHope and barks
20:29 <LibrarianofHope> at least i have a doggie
20:31 <Cepheid> Guh.
20:31 <Cepheid> Level 69->70 is ~75000 EXP.
20:31 <Cepheid> With a full party in the depths, I get about 2000-3000 EXP.
20:32 * MaredoggieRainbows kicks at her collar and pants
20:32 <Cepheid> Fastest source of non-cheap EXP are the superbosses and the dragons. At 160,000 up to 190,000 EXP for the superbosses, ~200,000 for the dragons.
20:33 <Cepheid> In total, there's 1,130,000 EXP to be had. With 30% increase, that's... 1,469,000.
20:34 <Lumindia_> @LibrarianofHope Ultimate level fights demand PERFECTION from the groups
20:34 <Cepheid> Equally divided by 5 characters, that's... 293,800 EXP.
20:34 <Lumindia_> You can afford... MAYBE one death, depending on the group
20:34 <Lumindia_> other than that, everything has to be executed flawlessly
20:36 <LibrarianofHope> seems streesfull
20:38 <Cepheid> Depends on the person.
20:38 <Cepheid> For some, it can be adrenaline-surging.
20:39 <LibrarianofHope> true, im just a chill kind of guy
20:40 <Lumindia_> these groups have put in a week of twelve hour raid days
20:42 <LibrarianofHope> i cant really get the feel of the scale of the achievement due to lack of context owo
20:46 <Cepheid> This is seriously gonna take forever to do.
21:03 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Pony Community Soapbox #159 - Smelly Dancing Bronies, Sword/Shield Vs. Pony, Bad Critics, and More! [ http://tinyurl.com/wae64vl ]
21:10 <Cepheid> Longicorn Beta = Run.
21:11 <Cepheid> They spawn eggs that seem predisposed into turning into Insectortoises, which upon death, spawn more eggs which are predisposed to turning into Insectortoises.
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21:49 * Cepheid hums.
21:49 <Cepheid> I'm gonna start on EO2: Untold.
21:50 <Cepheid> Not related to the third game, so I can go through it without spoiling EO3's true ending. o3o;
21:57 <Cepheid> https://etrian.fandom.com/wiki/Classes_(EO2U) I need four primary fighters. Pick a class, and a name. Guild name is already decided. If your name is too long I'll shorten it in some way.
22:03 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Pony Plushie Compilation #359 [ http://tinyurl.com/vsfstzy ]
22:06 <Cepheid> Default team it is, then.
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22:50 <Schism> Hm.
22:50 <Schism> Hey, Lumindia. A Physick was cast during the world first.
22:53 * Cepheid goes to lay back down.
23:03 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Fanfiction Updates - November 19th [ http://tinyurl.com/szt2cfe ]
23:07 <Lumindia_> '-' okay?
23:07 <Lumindia_> world first had a BLM in it
23:07 <Schism> Physick doesn't -exist- anymore.
23:08 <Schism> I... think? Huh.
23:08 <Schism> Maybe I'm wrong. *shakes head*
23:08 <Lumindia_> it exists
23:08 <Lumindia_> just very rarely used
23:10 * PinkieShy nomfs on grain free chips
23:10 <PinkieShy> Garden of Eatin' :P
23:14 <PinkieShy> hot fresh cheese taste amazing with them :3
23:34 <Schism> Cepheid: Thousand-yard snep. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EJxErmFWsAEmAqG
23:34 <Schism> Let's try again. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EJxErmFWsAEmAqG?format=jpg&name=large
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