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00:03 <Lumitac> I'm **the** Lumi
00:03 <Lumitac> and Lumi is going to bed.
00:03 <Lumitac> Goodnight!
00:03 <Reiko> Good morning
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00:17 <Golden> Welp I am a bit ticked off.
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01:13 <Cepheid> How on earth do cats manage to spread out 8lbs of cat litter from a box that's only designed to hold 4lbs?
01:17 <Ali> Magic
01:31 <Schism> Their calculated disdain weighs at least two pounds too.
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02:03 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Nightly Discussion #1991 [ http://tinyurl.com/r9umhfu ]
02:24 <PinkieShy> >_> How the heck does no surround sound feature enabled on headphones sound more surround sound than when the feature is enabled >_> This doesn't make sense to much lol
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02:35 <Schism> Is this an... odd set of hotbars? https://imgur.com/a/XBEMVeN
02:37 <Cepheid> Word of advice. If you take attivan during the day, do not take seroquel later that same day.
02:38 <Schism> I shall take that under advisory.
02:39 <Schism> (In case you got caught up on the shift-6 hotkey, that's a macro.)
02:43 <Schism> It's not -typically- the job of the WHM to mark the field. However...
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02:57 <PinkieShy> This weather is gonna make people sick.. >_>
02:58 <PinkieShy> going from like 67 during the day to 40 at night..
02:58 <PinkieShy> tomorrow is suppose to be like 75F with a low in the 40s..
03:03 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Makenshi: Two Sisters Music: Metajoker & 4EverfreeBrony - Sight for Sore Eyes [Alt. Rock] [ http://tinyurl.com/wmvdmty ]
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05:08 * PrincessRainbows boops Ali and begs
05:08 * Ali squeaks and curls into PrincessRainbows, she's not going to be good for that with an upset tummy.
05:10 <PrincessRainbows> Me too actually. Well more like indescribable rage
05:22 * PrincessRainbows boops the Ali's horn instead. Magic!
06:08 * PrincessRainbows curls up in her doggy bed to sleep
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06:48 * Filly_Nightmares skrees!
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06:58 <Golden> Hehe
07:03 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by The Illustrious Q: My Little Pony: Holiday Special 2019 Released Today! - Download Links, Variants, Discussion! [ http://tinyurl.com/uocwu2k ]
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07:17 <ConfusionRift> Hello everypony.
07:19 * Ali flops into ConfusionRift
07:20 * ConfusionRift patpats Ali. Was a long day.
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07:36 <ConfusionRift> Hmmmm, possible Metroid Prime Trilogy remake... this is good. Very goooood.
07:37 <ConfusionRift> Oooooooohhhhh!!! https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EKUOOU1U8AAOESL?format=png&name=360x360
07:45 <Ali> First off how
07:45 <Ali> How do you use up THAT much storage?
07:45 * Ali is still on a 256GB SSD
07:50 <ConfusionRift> It's not mine, it's Linus' from Linus Tech Tips. He has this as a storage for old and WIP video projects. He put down just the craziest amount of cash to make a RAID server that would last them a long time. That is close to 1 Petabyte in helium filled mechanical drives. It. Is. Stupid... and awesome. Wish I hasd that much space.
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07:51 <ConfusionRift> I have a 1TB SSD for Windows only (sorta), a 2TB hybrid for gaming, a small 6TB RAID for "permanent" storage, and 6TB solo for temp backups.
07:51 <ConfusionRift> Oh wait, and a 3TB I have to replace soon out of fear.
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08:00 <ConfusionRift> Why so much? A lot of stored projects. Not to mention information and stuff from my studies.
08:01 <ConfusionRift> I might have to clean house at some point.
08:01 * ConfusionRift flopples near Ali.
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08:48 * ConfusionRift still finds this guy running a PC using hardware from Wish to be funny. :P
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09:12 * Golden flops. His Dm just gave a dragon born sorcerer an surprising item.
09:12 <Schism> "Ohhhhh, Chryssi~ I'm respecting your privacy by knocking, but asserting my authority as the superior Changeling Queen by COMING IN ANYWAY!"
09:13 <Golden> ??
09:14 * ConfusionRift hears a loud thud as somepony rams a door open.
09:15 * Golden blinks looking up. His Dm's Homebrew campaign has universes merging. So the DM gave Golden's character the Elder Wand.
09:16 <Schism> Oh dear. That thing always leads to its wielder's death.
09:16 * ConfusionRift got a blaster- "Nice!" -that shoots ping pong balls. "...heeeh?"
09:16 <Schism> If you're doing Paranoia, those ping-pong balls are possibly coated in LSD.
09:17 * ConfusionRift rolls for an attack. Gets a 20, and shoots Schism with his powerful blaster of dooooom. Pop pop pop.
09:17 <Golden> That is the previous owners of it got cocky, boasted, and all that. That's what lead to their death
09:17 <Schism> Of course, half the fun of Paranoia is finding out what the weapons -really- do. Arandee is evil.
09:18 * Schism sways, then goes off on a wild tear, like a Viz panda.
09:18 <ConfusionRift> "Actually, the ping pong balls are filled with nitroglycerin." | Wait, wha- (booms!)
09:18 * Schism wanders into a Purple zone, gets incinerated.
09:19 * Ali flops over Schism
09:19 * Golden uses meta magic to cast a giant fire ball.
09:20 <Schism> Golden: The Elder Wand, as one of the Hallows, was marked by Death, so it's possible that it might have influenced its prior holders to -become- Gryffindors.
09:20 <Golden> .... chaotic good platinum carde dragonborn sorcerer....oh boy.
09:21 <Schism> Yeah, you're already doomed, but at least you can go out with a bang.
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09:23 <Golden> I am determined to make it to tiamat at least. My dm told me something big since I am basically co dm, and helped coming up with major story points.
09:25 *** Changeling_Nightmares is now known as Filly_Nightmares
09:25 * Filly_Nightmares meows
09:25 <Schism> Does your character -know- the story of the wand? If not, then you're doomed in some unspecified fashion. If so, you can punk it.
09:25 * Schism wraps Filly_Nightmares in oven-warm tortillas!
09:25 * Filly_Nightmares purrs and kneads Schism happily!
09:25 * Schism then snuggles the Burrito_Nightmares.
09:26 * Filly_Nightmares nomfs Schism nosie happily!
09:26 * Schism also provides tuna feesh sammiches.
09:26 * Filly_Nightmares licks the sandvich up!
09:27 <Golden> All my character knows that their disarmed a bald noseless corpse (yes I know his name) though I still might be able to punk it since the DM decided my character is the reincarnation of Bahamut
09:29 <Schism> No good. Death and tragedy follow the holder of the wand, and the wand only serves the one who defeated its previous owner.
09:30 <Golden> It depends if my dm goes that canon route of it. Idk what he is planning other than the hooks.
09:30 <Schism> Fair enough.
09:31 <Schism> If you find a ring with a line through a triangle on it, though, detour to the next available volcano.
09:32 <Golden> ....
09:32 <Golden> Our rogue has that.
09:32 <Schism> Oh good.
09:32 <Schism> Then things are going to be fun.
09:33 <Golden> Funny thing about the map the dm drew up. No volcanoes.
09:33 <ConfusionRift> I know one day I;m just gonna go "screw it!" and put the streaming thing out there... blargh. Freakin' work is on my mind. It suuucks.
09:34 <Schism> Congrats, Golden. Your rogue is wearing a phylactery.
09:34 <Golden> He knows. He said as long as it can help him stealth it's good.
09:34 * Schism snickers. "Oh dear."
09:35 <Schism> Well. I mean, is it the Gaunt ring, or is it the One Ring?
09:36 <Golden> One Ring
09:37 <Schism> Oh, not a phylactery, then, just a receptacle.
09:38 <Schism> Well, possibhly also a phylactery.
09:39 <Schism> Voldemort's phylacteries were, if memory serves, Slytherin's Locket, Hufflepuff's Cup, Ravenclaw's Diadem, the Gaunt Ring, Riddle's Diary, one snake, and one (1) scar born of tragedy and fear.
09:41 <Golden> I mean when the dm brought over voldemort he basically made a rule that if the are fully cut off from their original world they become mortal.
09:42 <Schism> Well. There's mortal, and then there's mortal. But I can see the multiversal void presenting enough disruption to an actualized spirit array that it grows corrupted and dissipates without a physical anchor.
09:43 <Schism> Or getting untethered from those physical anchors.
09:44 <Schism> Life, after all, clings to itself, but a spiritual fragment tied to an item? Eh.
09:44 <ConfusionRift> I knew it! (sees an explosive piece of debris waaaaay up high) My flying machines suck.
09:44 <Schism> Rifty, are you playing KSE?
09:45 <Golden> Untethered. He had his snack basically vaporize right in front of us.
09:45 <Golden> Snake*
09:45 <ConfusionRift> Trailmakers.
09:45 <Schism> Aha.
09:46 <Schism> Golden: Even without the will of its master, the One Ring is a nasty little piece of work. The unpleasant truth to Rings of Invisibility is that you can never find them when you really need them. "I know I set it down here a second ago..."
09:47 <Golden> True that.
09:48 <Schism> Invisibility is also the least of its powers, but most don't have the will of the Maiar to draw them out.
09:48 <ConfusionRift> ...
09:48 <Schism> ...?
09:49 <ConfusionRift> There are no collection checkpoints on these floating islands. I'll have to collect the part, and hover it to a checkpoint down to ground level, including the explosive ones.
09:50 <Schism> Aah. o3o;
09:50 * Schism checks the Epic Store (yes, I know) for the latest free items.
09:52 <Schism> Bad North, huh? That's cute.
09:55 * Golden flops.
09:55 * Schism places a dark chocolate cranberry vanilla cashew muffin atop Golden's head.
09:56 * Golden blinks a bit trying not to move.
09:56 * Schism sighs, then takes the muffin off and puts it in front of Golden.
09:57 <Schism> Nobody knows how to do a muffinflip.
09:57 * Golden quickly devours it.
09:59 * Filly_Nightmares rolls onto Golden
09:59 * Golden pets Filly_Nightmares
10:00 * Filly_Nightmares noms Golden hoof
10:01 * Golden offers Filly_Nightmares some oreos
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10:16 <Golden> ._.
10:17 * Schism takes the oreos, crushes them, and mixes them into a giant smoothie of ice cream, milk, dark chocolate, and sugar, then serves to Golden.
10:17 * Golden blinks before drinking it.
10:17 <Schism> Oreo milkshake. o3o
10:17 <Schism> It's terribad, but also ever so good.
10:22 <Schism> So, weirdness happens. Yesterday I found myself with a co-worker whom I'd worked at in my previous call center job. That one was work-from-home. This one is in an office.
10:23 <Schism> with whom I'd worked*
10:23 <Schism> Having her take a seat and ask, "Wait, are you /that/ Dennis?" was one of my more surreal moments.
10:24 * Changeling_Nightmares bounces at Schism
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10:30 <ConfusionRift> Hehehe.
10:32 <Schism> I like it, though. Finally, someone else who UNDERSTANDS~!
10:36 <ConfusionRift> Of COURSE, the dragon jet part is IN the volcano... and it's explosive.
10:36 <Schism> ... were you expecting anything different?
10:38 * ConfusionRift shrugs. "Getting a bit cruel now." :P
10:39 <Schism> It's okay, you've been hardened to cruelty.
10:39 <ConfusionRift> I'm upset, because I'm borrowing one of the preset blueprints for the job, with some modifications. I prefer to use my own prints, but I can't figure how to make a not-so-wonky hovering vehicle.
10:40 <Schism> Ohhh. Yeah... hmm. I don't know the game, can't say, but maybe borrow the design of a quadrotor? Or even a trirotor.
10:40 <ConfusionRift> And choppers and planes are out of the question. Don't have the parts for them.
10:40 <Schism> Aha. Three engines, though, for VTOL...
10:40 <ConfusionRift> Physics are odd when it comes to flight.
10:41 <Schism> "Physics are odd" sounds like "they need to make the physics more reliably defined."
10:41 <Schism> I'm not going to spring for 'realistic', that's asking for trouble.
10:42 <ConfusionRift> Aerodynamics are complicated. I have to worry about balance, weight, and directional output.
10:42 <ConfusionRift> Ah, and shape, yes.
10:42 <Schism> Yup, because that's going to get you on the wind sheer.
10:43 <ConfusionRift> So it's basically... like actually building an aircraft.
10:44 <ConfusionRift> Like what happened the other day while trying to build a simple plane. I had problems with the plane understeering, lack of lift, or it being back flung. What was the issue? Wing position.
10:45 <ConfusionRift> Still kinda poopie, but at least I can fly it, steer it, and land it where I want.
10:45 <Schism> I like it. I mean, that's basically what Zachtronics games are, right? Just building a certain tool which can function under a constrained set of circumstances with a limited set of tools which seem all the more puzzling when more options are added.
10:45 * ConfusionRift nods.
10:45 <Schism> All to create something which functions under another set of conditions.
10:45 <ConfusionRift> It's kinda what I like about the game
10:46 <ConfusionRift> And then, you try to build something, which ends up meeting the requirements for many other things by sheer luck.
10:46 <Schism> But not the requirement for which you were -looking-, of course.
10:47 <Schism> Well, sometimes, anyway.
10:48 <Schism> So, I got hired at exactly the wrong time.
10:48 <ConfusionRift> Ooooh?
10:49 <Schism> We're doing a corporate split, and that means that everything I do has to be flavoured in exactly the right colour, or else it won't sound right.
10:49 <ConfusionRift> Uuuurgh.
10:49 <Schism> Yeah, and at this time of year, no less.
10:50 <ConfusionRift> It's usually at these sorts of time frames.
10:51 <Schism> Oh, I don't expect it to finalize until the end of next quarter, if not next year. But we have to adjust accordingly.
10:51 <ConfusionRift> The great staff butchering will begin shortly after new years, followed by an audit.
10:52 <Schism> I am performing my job with aplomb, and therefore I have... less chance of being given the axe.
10:52 <Schism> I won't say no chance. I know better than this.
10:53 <Schism> The winnowing will probably start with the people who CALLED OFF SICK YESTERDAY AT OPENING TIME. The folks who called in late, those can be excused. There was a shooting.
10:53 <ConfusionRift> Oooooh.
10:54 <Schism> Yeah, it was bad. https://kitchener.ctvnews.ca/gun-violence-concerns-in-waterloo-region-after-18th-shooting-in-2019-1.4703919
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10:56 <Schism> I know it's horribly wrong, but reading "The fourth fatal shooting in our gigantic metropolitan area" {paraphrased} make me want to laugh with some kind of sick relief, because it's November.
10:57 <Schism> Ot
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10:57 <ConfusionRift> Heh? :P
10:57 <Schism> 0zcxbhclnbiu chb. Or asdffgjkl if you prefer.
10:57 <Schism> Keyboard smashes tend to be inconsistent by design. The BEST keyboard smashes turn someone into Freakazoid.
10:58 <ConfusionRift> Hehehe.
10:59 <ConfusionRift> Expect something like A.D.D. sort of training over at work.
10:59 <ConfusionRift> ADD = Avoid. Deny. Defend. It's the new thing in case of a lead spray.
11:00 <Schism> Nah. The collective response in the office is "What the f***? Well, this was unavoidable, and we already school our employees on being chill, so."
11:00 <ConfusionRift> See, that's my current fear. Everyone it too used to chaos.
11:01 <ConfusionRift> *is
11:01 <Schism> We're ... frightfully chill. We've got an NB lead happily being themselves, we've folks from every walk of life. It's kind of like I've walked into a workplace 20 years into the future.
11:02 <Schism> We're scared about the idiot who killed someone, of course, but we're not in any sort of 'god damnit, Black Friday is too much, time to kill my workplace' sort of people.
11:03 <ConfusionRift> If I remember correctly, someone did report that the response of people panicking after the first few shots was just incredibly slow, which I do believe.
11:03 <Schism> That's both good and bad, and I think it's right.
11:03 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Morning Discussion #1764 [ http://tinyurl.com/vl8butk ]
11:04 <Schism> People panicking after hearing a few shots would have been the wrong decision. Verifying what's going on and figuring out that they should panic, albeit in an orderly fashion, that was the thing to do.
11:04 <ConfusionRift> Let me rephrase that.
11:04 <Schism> Admittedly, I'd prefer no panic, just a piledriver on the shooter, but that's my take.
11:05 <ConfusionRift> People took too long to respond to what clearly is a gunman taking people down, or they ignored the chaos and continued their shopping like nothing was going on.
11:06 <Schism> Mmm. Now that was wrong.
11:07 <ConfusionRift> Not sure if you were there when I mentioned that one of the incidents trigger some panic at our store, causing some to report suspicious activity on some who were legally carrying, causing the whole store to go on lockdown and start an investigation.
11:09 <ConfusionRift> During the moment of lockdown, which everyone evacuated and stayed outside the store, there were customers FIGHTING with the police trying to get in so they can continue their shopping or so they could pay.
11:09 <Schism> Think I wasn't, but that sounds like an old familiar tale.
11:10 <Schism> ... what.
11:10 <ConfusionRift> Not. Joking.
11:10 <Schism> I'd have just stood aside and said "Hey, here's my bag, let me turn out my pockets so you can look at what I have on me."
11:11 <Schism> Quick, clean, convenient, and less likely to have meet the wall with my temple.
11:11 <Schism> s/have//
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11:11 <ConfusionRift> My previous statement is what really bothers/worries me.
11:11 <Schism> On the OTHER hand, I am a young white male.
11:12 <ConfusionRift> ... (pivots his head)
11:12 <Schism> Worry not, just a statement.
11:12 <Schism> Anyway, people taking too long to respond...
11:13 <Schism> ALSO an old familiar tale, but one which is so familiar that another familiar tale, "The boy who cried wolf", comes to mind.
11:13 <Schism> And its antecedent.
11:13 <Schism> And its consequent.
11:15 <ConfusionRift> The problem was this. They didn't know it was a false alarm. So, from what I can see, we got people who would risk their lives trying to get groceries, rather than stepping away from the firing range.
11:15 <ConfusionRift> This was DURING the investigation, when the enforcers were swatting the store.
11:15 <Schism> Sounds like exactly what you should have done.
11:16 <Schism> You were superb in that. Now my next question is: Were you punished for doing so?
11:16 <ConfusionRift> ...heh?
11:17 <Schism> Well, you violated SOP. I'd expect Wal*Mart to punish you accordingly, whether or not you were in the wrong.
11:18 <Schism> Because FUCK CORPORATE. Excuse my French, I'll take the temporary ban if that's still not reasonable. But that response is exactly what it should be.
11:18 <ConfusionRift> I went to work late because people were telling there was a shooting... then they were phoning me because I wasn't there. So I walked back to what could had been an actual shooting, just to see customers getting on the officers' nerves about the shopping and paying stuff.
11:19 <Schism> Getting on...
11:19 <Schism> the officers' nerves.
11:20 <Schism> About something with which the officers had nothing whatsoever to do.
11:21 <ConfusionRift> ...Schism... I'm actually kinda lost right now. 0_0;
11:21 <Schism> Leave them, they're obviously too stupid to be wasting our precious oxygen.
11:21 <ConfusionRift> Oooh... okay. See... I... okay, you know what? I agree with that.
11:21 <ConfusionRift> It's the Tide Pods and Fabuloso situation.
11:22 <Schism> CR: It sounds like there was a shooting, you were late because of the shooting, the store managers agreed there was a shooting, the police agreed there was a shooting, and things escalated to the point where the best response was "I just don't CARE anymore."
11:23 <Schism> Like when I came in late last week, I advised my supe, and she said, "Yup, train was late, you're not at fault, I'll mark it."
11:24 <ConfusionRift> My worry was more towards the peoples' slow reaction or lack of reaction to dangerous circumstances, not necessarily the store response to said situations.
11:25 <ConfusionRift> My life is more valuable than the stores wellbeing.
11:26 <Schism> Yes, but your life can be compared to someone else's, a man whose mental stability could be compared to a baked walnut.
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11:27 <Schism> I'm sorry, we're talking past each other.
11:27 <Schism> I'm not able to properly grok your situation, I think that's the major concern.
11:27 <ConfusionRift> Yeah, it's getting confusing. :P
11:28 <Schism> This is really counterintuitive, but Cepheid might be able to grok your situation.
11:28 * ConfusionRift sighs. "I can already see the response."
11:28 <Schism> Yeah, but that's because you're providing the wrong details.
11:30 <ConfusionRift> Eeerm... maybe I can re-clarify?
11:30 <Schism> Provide them in a very short form fashion. Let him know the details of the initial interaction. While it seems horrid to say -- act as if you're working with a machine. Folks like me tend to react better with a full set of details.
11:31 <Schism> I get really, really, REALLY upset when I'm dealing with someone who tells me their life story. I think Cepheid, too, does.
11:31 * ConfusionRift scrolls up, he's really confused. "But... the details are there?"
11:32 <Schism> My grammar also breaks down.
11:33 <Schism> Buck me running, we're talking about something weird. The gunman.
11:33 * ConfusionRift thuds.
11:33 <Schism> We're talking about a gunman. Confusion is a primary talkdown point. Ask about why they're upset. Get them into a conversation if you can. DO NOT ADVISE that they should be doing something else.
11:34 <Schism> Turns out that the very confusion I've just initiated is exactly what we should do.
11:34 <Schism> *screams in uncertainty*
11:35 * ConfusionRift absorbs the confusion, and... "Maybe we should skip over this."
11:35 <Schism> Let's just not.
11:35 <Schism> Just... NOT.
11:36 <Schism> It all makes sense, but in a headache-infusing way.
11:36 <ConfusionRift> ...
11:36 * ConfusionRift now starts laughing.
11:36 <Schism> You get it, don't you?
11:37 <Schism> It's mad, but...!
11:39 <Schism> Cepheid, you get the joke, right?
11:39 <ConfusionRift> I was actually getting kinda mad. I had to rewind like four times, but yeah, kinda sorta probably perhaps maybe get it.
11:42 <ConfusionRift> But seriously, that my worry. That I won't be able to tell the difference between normality and chaos, and end up getting mauled.
11:43 * ConfusionRift still thinks "that" extra sense hasn't left him yet.
11:44 <Schism> It's alright, though. Once you figure out the distinction between order and chaos, you'll be more readily able to do that.
11:44 <Schism> And figure out when the wolf is just trying to bite your ear, or bite your throat.
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11:44 * ConfusionRift nods.
11:45 <ConfusionRift> Then again, you shouldn't be messing with wolves in the first place. :P
11:45 <Schism> Pay attention to the windows you build. As the Principia Disordia states, we build windows - or wolves - and then try to figure out what they view.
11:46 <Schism> In the case of wolves, they declare enemies and allies based on our own perceptions. But... those wolves might be wrong.
11:46 <Schism> And as the old saying goes... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gey1PtXYwLI
11:50 * ConfusionRift slowly nods. "Very true."
11:51 * ConfusionRift feels this strange sense of nostalgia. Sniffles a bit.
11:51 <Schism> And... sometimes the wood might tell you that it is of good; some, a child might lead you...
11:51 <Schism> I don't know that it's good.
11:52 <Schism> You are not alone, though.
11:52 <Schism> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdT-hVmH1DE
11:52 <Schism> Sometimes, we're given wrong ideas through fairy tales. Sometimes... the advice is true.
11:55 <ConfusionRift> See, I'm vaguely familiar with Into the Woods, with a specific pony pointing me out to it. :P Alas, the sense of nostalgia was more of the voice, which is odd. Can't pinpoint why.
11:56 <Schism> Ah, alas, so it goes!
11:57 * ConfusionRift nods... then stomach grumbles. "Oh... I suppose I should refuel." :P
11:57 <Schism> I can't say anything else, but I had to be sure. I wouldn't want you to be squashed by a giant, after all.
11:57 <Schism> Refueling is possibly the best option. Wouldn't want you to run out of broccoli.
11:58 * ConfusionRift pulls out a can of cheese broccoli soup. "Huh?" :P
11:59 <Schism> Then I guess I'll be the one to break! Blerfghhhh.
11:59 <Schism> I'm going to still watch the damned show. You got a good video?
12:00 <Schism> Still need to get you to play URU Live with me.
12:03 <Schism> '"You can defeat the world with a song." Clever. And I appreciate it, but... I tied them up in rope while I just relaxed. Cute, easily broken. And I gave a hum while I did it, so, that's complete."
12:15 * Filly_Nightmares yawnskrees at Schism
12:15 * ConfusionRift returns.
12:16 <ConfusionRift> Went with loaded potato soup instead... maybe it was a bad idea.
12:21 <ConfusionRift> One of the potato bits exploded out of the heat and sprayed on my hand.
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12:51 <ConfusionRift> What the...?
12:51 <ConfusionRift> These crackers are... odd. They aren't old, but they aren't as crunchy as they should. It's like, cookie consistency... maybe they got humid?
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13:19 <Finwe> o3o
13:19 <Finwe> Good afternoon, my perissodactyls of minute stature.
13:19 <Finwe> Lt Cdr ConfusionRift, Capt Koopz.
13:19 <Finwe> o7
13:20 <Finwe> Miss Changeling_Nightmares, Messrs Schism, Cepheid and Starlight_Glimmer.
13:20 <ConfusionRift> RAdm. Finwe. (salutes)
13:20 * Finwe doffs his hat.
13:20 <Koopz> RAdm. Finwe o7
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13:26 * Finwe hats on Schism.
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15:01 <Schism> Blurrrrrrr...
15:01 * Schism sighs, and offers Finwe a pirog stuffed with lemon rice, chicken, and asparagus.
15:04 <Finwe> Interesting combination, but I suppose one that works, given that the goal is to avoid emotions of disgust and nausea.
15:04 * Finwe happily noms on the aforementioned pirog.
15:05 <Schism> Well, considering that a pirog is just a pastry stuffed with nommable foods.
15:05 <Schism> Usually rice or potato, and similar things.
15:08 <Schism> I'd have suggested a ground beef, teriyaki rice and orange one, but I'm just waking up, quite tired, and the first option simply occurred to me sooner.
15:10 <Schism> Well, maybe not -ground- beef.
15:10 <Schism> Finwe: I forget if I had you watch Hazbin Hotel. o3o;
15:11 <Finwe> I'm mostly used to our national version, intrisically stuffed with ground beef, cooked rice and, in some cases, boiled egg.
15:11 <Finwe> And then you often add something else.
15:12 <Finwe> Hamburger steak, sausage, ham and egg, ...
15:12 <Schism> Then ground beef, a bit of egg, teriyaki rice and orange would be perfectly fine.
15:12 <Schism> o3o
15:12 <Finwe> Indeed.
15:13 * Schism noddles, and also provides Finwe with an Oreo milkshake. It's that time of year.
15:13 <Finwe> I've never had one.
15:14 <Finwe> I haven't developed a taste for sweet drinks.
15:14 <Schism> Just your usual vanilla milkshake with chocolate cookies...
15:14 * Schism provides Finwe with a morning Caesar. o3o
15:14 <Finwe> Late afternoon here.
15:15 <Schism> Still tasty.
15:15 <Finwe> o3o
15:18 <LibrarianofHope> sup
15:25 * PrincessRainbows licks Finwe
15:25 <Schism> "Send crews of Pegasi or Unicorns, if you can get it. Zebras if you can get them, Thestrals if you can't. Gryphons if you can get 'em. The forest is wild, and it doesn't respond well to anyone trying to tame it. Neither would you, of course."
15:26 <Schism> "It's alive, and Earth Pony magic would result in a backlash. That fits what I'm seeing, at least. Zebra magic is close enough to wild nature that it won't spark a backlash. They know how to respect true nature."
15:27 * Finwe noms on PrincessRainbows and LibrarianofHope.
15:28 <Schism> "Why not Earth Ponies?" "Their magic is instinctual, and outside of young children, its purpose is to tame the land around them. And young ch- no, NO. I am not sending them in. They'd thrive, but there are still manticores. Put out an all clear. The Everfree is alive as it has always been. And hungry."
15:29 * PrincessRainbows looks at Finwe with wide eyes
15:31 <Finwe> LibrarianofHope: Indeed, I'm going to sup in about half an hour. Time to leave, lest I end up arriving belated.
15:31 <Finwe> See you later, everypony!
15:33 * Finwe flies off.
15:51 <Schism> You can stop correcting yourseleves. PANTS.
15:52 * Schism is wearing pyjamas, and they're in plaid. The plaid colours keep shifting.
15:53 <PrincessRainbows> Ah
15:53 <Schism> I'm in a state of mild intoxication, and therefore the plaid colouration keeps adjusting itself.
15:54 <Schism> Nothing that can be fixed, just an impulse and a small declaration. It's funny, tho.
15:55 <PrincessRainbows> Sounds right
15:56 <Schism> You sound like you're familiar with REALLY drunk people fed up with why their stuff isn't the right colour.
15:58 <PrincessRainbows> Huh
15:58 <Schism> Also, I'm sorry, PrincessRainbows. We're not going to make the US stock of GR82 Converse shoes available to Mexico any time soon.
15:59 <Schism> "How did?!" I'm psychic, you see." "Oh."
16:00 <Hajnal> What are those quotes from, Schism ?
16:00 <Schism> Mostly, my brain.
16:00 <Hajnal> Ah. You writing?
16:01 <Schism> Ssssorta. That lattermost is my expecting something of the sort.
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16:02 <Schism> You see, the GR82 shoes are the highest selling item all season, and we're getting a lot of requests about them selling out in the most popular sizes.
16:03 <Schism> Accordingly, as it's Thanksgiving week, we get lots and lots of requests.
16:04 <Schism> With a sufficient number of orders, we are also capable of anticipating requests.
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16:06 <Schism> With proper information, we can also figure out a 'no, we can't do that for you' in record time, which is good, because most people won't accept a 'no' in anyway.
16:07 <Schism> People, I won't say this more than once. ASK if the customer service agent can do something for you; if they can't, then ACCEPT THE ANSWER.
16:07 <Schism> No buts! No 'but they did this for me before!' If they can't do it, they can't.
16:07 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Makenshi: Pony Cyberpunk Music: Hay Tea & Tripon - Trail Of Shade [Neurofunk] [ http://tinyurl.com/v5ezr7g ]
16:08 <Schism> We always try to help to the utmost, and hearing 'but someone did this before!' is like a saw across guitar strings.
16:10 <Schism> .. hm.
16:11 <Schism> Surely there's a means by which to set up an IRC chat so agents can help each other out...
16:14 <Schism> Oh, surely, something like that must have been considered beforehand. We could set up group-locked channels, and the like...
16:18 <PrincessRainbows> What do you mean by group-locked
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16:18 <Lumitac> !
16:22 <Schism> At some point, I expect to be asked how I can manage to actually speak in Capital Letters, and I'll be happy to provide a class.
16:23 <Schism> Also, I mean channels limited to one group or another.
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16:32 * Lumitac is bored
16:37 <PrincessRainbows> Yes, but groups of what?
16:37 <Schism> I suggest URU Live, if you'd like a puzzle game.
16:38 <Schism> Groups of employees tied to a client.
16:38 <PrincessRainbows> Ooh
16:39 * Schism takes a little more of a break.
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17:33 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Fanfiction Updates - November 27th [ http://tinyurl.com/re9m8y5 ]
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17:41 * PrincessRainbows sits on Ali and boops her horn. magic horsey!
17:41 * Ali ows and boops PrincessRainbows wings
17:42 <PrincessRainbows> flappity flap
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18:09 * Ali nuzzles into PrincessRainbows with a yawn.
18:12 <PrincessRainbows> Sleepy horse
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18:15 * Ali splats
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18:25 <Schism> Of course. I can't be sick on my days in the workplace; I have to get sick on my days off.
18:26 <Schism> This illustrates a dedication to duty I'm having a HARD TIME FEELING RIGHT NOW.
18:26 * Ali licks Schism, tastes like cold
18:26 * Schism coughs, sneezes, sniffles, and generally is miserable.
18:27 * Schism snugs the Ali. At least bugs don't usually translate over chat.
18:28 <Schism> I shall make myself chicken with broccoli sauce.
18:29 <Schism> Having some food will usually make me feel better. Even if it's crap.
18:32 <Hajnal> Usually?
18:33 <Schism> Well, I mean. If I'm sick, it could be one of a dozen causes.
18:34 <Schism> I'd put money on 'call center workplace' being a big one. If I'm not sick, and it's just a bodily dysfunction, then food will help. I do have a fairly robust immune system.
18:34 <LibrarianofHope> stomach ache or flu?
18:35 <LibrarianofHope> i know a great healing soup recipe, ancient spanish recipe
18:35 <Schism> Does it involve chicken and hot peppers?
18:36 <LibrarianofHope> no
18:36 <LibrarianofHope> its spanish, not mexican owo
18:36 <Schism> Menudo? We can't get that here.
18:36 <LibrarianofHope> its this
18:36 <LibrarianofHope> you make chocken broth with a head of garlic and olive oil, with rice
18:37 <LibrarianofHope> it settles the stomach nicely
18:37 <Schism> So it -does- involve chicken. And yes, that's close to what I'm doing already.
18:37 <Schism> This is more a throat thing than a stomach bug.
18:38 <Schism> So adding in a couple of habaneros will do quite nicely.
18:39 <LibrarianofHope> why would that work? i believe you, im just curios
18:40 <Schism> Capsaicin causes a burn, but afterwards, the endorphins cause the muscles in question to relax.
18:40 <LibrarianofHope> makes sense
18:41 <Schism> That's good, because that was just a guess. I don't really know why either.
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19:00 <LibrarianofHope> i have been , quite frankly, bambozzled
19:03 <LibrarianofHope> i think the recipe i gave you is incomplete, it involves lime too i think
19:03 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Silver Quill: Let's Review: Holiday Special 2019 [ http://tinyurl.com/utd3jm2 ]
19:31 * PrincessRainbows stamps LibrarianofHope with a hoof
19:35 <Schism> Some nice breaded chicken with broccoli and cream sauce worked well to eliminate my cough.
19:36 <Schism> It seems that the nervous system took my stomach protesting and just escalated it upwards.
19:38 <Schism> The staff are buying us lunch in exchange for us working on this weekend. I am pleased by this.
19:48 * Ali makes Schism work....oh wait they're Canadian.
19:49 * Ali makes Schism work Thanksgiving anyway!
19:49 <Schism> No, nononononono. I'm working Friday through Monday. And three days more.
19:50 <Schism> Then I get two days off, one day of work, and two more days off.
19:50 <Ali> Eh, at least you've never worked 13/14
19:50 <Schism> And then it's back to my regular schedule for... some days.
19:50 <Schism> I'm still working 10 on those days.
19:51 <Schism> I've done 13 hour shifts back at Barnes and Noble. That was over a decade ago, and I was so much younger then, I could pull them off.
19:52 <Ali> Still working 13 out of 14 days is disgusting
19:52 <Schism> Oh /days./ Yeah, I've got 7/2/7/2/5.
19:53 <Schism> I'm pretty sure they -would- have sent me through so I'd get 14 and 2, but they couldn't due to Canadian federal laws.
19:56 <Ali> Well US has no such things
19:56 <Ali> AND to get around it
19:56 <Ali> They make it go across multiple weeks
19:56 <Ali> So it only looks like you had one day off over 7 days
19:56 <Ali> and tack on three and four days in a row on the other ends of it
20:03 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Drawfriend Stuff (Pony Art Gallery) #3173 [ http://tinyurl.com/sda4ae7 ]
20:11 <Schism> Urg.
20:11 <Ali> The castle Urg?
20:12 <Schism> Also, can I say that this looks like it'd give a podiatrist a coronary? https://www.converse.com/shop/p/chuck-taylor-all-star-gr82-womens-shoe/563468MP.html
20:12 <Schism> No, the castle arrrrgh.
20:13 <Ali> I know, was just trying to be funny :P
20:13 <Ali> Now you too can hike in style with high heel hikers
20:13 <Schism> EXACTLY, what the hell?
20:13 * Ali shrugs
20:13 <Ali> Anyway, staff times so I gotta poofie
20:13 <Schism> But they're selling like hotcakes.
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20:13 <Ali|AFK> Of course they are
20:13 <Schism> Anyway, take care.
20:14 <Ali|AFK> Be back later
20:15 * Schism mutters, "Worst thing is, I kinda want one too, but they're not available in a women's 14.5."
20:15 <Cepheid> https://i.redd.it/gzjcihie07141.png
20:16 <Schism> ... being privy to the context, Cepheid, that's one of the worst things I've ever seen in my life.
20:17 <Cepheid> I know.
20:17 <Cepheid> https://v.redd.it/15yz6xydx7141
20:18 <Schism> Thank you for that brain bleach.
20:22 <Cepheid> https://i.redd.it/4t8agb4s78141.jpg
20:23 <Schism> Damnitall. I want a black cat again, but my landlord would throw me out on my ear via constructive dismissal.
20:26 <Cepheid> No pets?
20:26 <Schism> No pets.
20:27 <Schism> While this is a violation of the Landlord/Tenant Act of Ontario, obtaining one -after the fact-, as I am a tenant, would be such a headache that I can't justify it.
20:28 <Schism> Plus, as much as I would want to be adopted by a cat, we are rather slim in terms of funds.
20:29 <Cepheid> Heh.
20:29 <Cepheid> By the by, word of advice.
20:30 <Cepheid> Even if they are hours apart, don't mix a diazepam medication with a sedative.
20:30 <Schism> Aye? Oh. Yeah.
20:30 <Cepheid> I slept...
20:30 <Schism> 19 hours or so.
20:30 <Cepheid> 18 houra.
20:31 <Cepheid> About that yeah.
20:31 <Schism> I am good at guessing these things. Should go into business as a not-a-psychic.
20:33 <Schism> "You've encountered a lot of issues in your life, of sorts - a change of pace might serve you well."
20:33 <Cepheid> Heh.
20:33 <Cepheid> Hilariously I am still tired. Guess what woke me up.
20:34 <Schism> Dishes!
20:34 <Cepheid> Wee-oooo-weee-oooo-weee-oooo
20:34 <Schism> Oh, yeah...
20:34 <Cepheid> Emergency Alert System Test.
20:35 <Cepheid> Normally I sleep through em. Not this time.
20:35 <Schism> EAST, cute. There was a shooting on the freeway yesterday.
20:35 <Cepheid> https://v.redd.it/r278znjsy4141
20:36 <Schism> I'm glad I went in early, because they shut down -everything.-
20:36 <Schism> Best table tennis. o3o
20:38 <Cepheid> Wait what?
20:38 <Cepheid> Oh they shut down the freeway.
20:39 <Cepheid> https://i.redd.it/01hgayehi8141.jpg
20:39 <Schism> Good chunk of the LRT, too.
20:40 <Schism> So much floof.
20:40 <Cepheid> https://i.redd.it/d303lely6a141.jpg
20:41 <Cepheid> Not that big a cat either. She has her hands wrapped around and touching. That's all fur, baby.
20:42 <Schism> Still looks very Maine Coonish. And that poor cat.
20:42 <Cepheid> https://i.imgur.com/gOMjwEQ.gifv
20:42 <Schism> That cat should've been shaved a looooong time ago.
20:43 <Cepheid> That's a winter coat.
20:43 <Cepheid> The fur would just grow in that long again.
20:43 <Schism> After a while.
20:43 <Cepheid> Tizzy's coat is doing the same thing.
20:43 <Schism> That's still really... excessively long.
20:46 <Cepheid> My mother keeps talking about giving Tizzy a shave.
20:52 <Schism> Might still not be a bad idea...?
21:04 <Cepheid> It is more she keeps forgetting to do it, but yes it would be a good idea.
21:11 * Cepheid flops and opens 3DS.
21:13 <Cepheid> Still not much luck on them data formats.
21:13 <Cepheid> I can find files in the main archive through simple data searching, though. For example, I found the monster data for the Drake, Dragon and Wyrm.
21:14 <Cepheid> And I can probably find the growth table data by using a character, and simply searching for the relevant stats. I would assume the stats are stored as 8-bit integers, as the maximum value is 99.
21:15 <Cepheid> ... I did not expect that to return any results. At all.
21:15 <Schism> Hmm?
21:16 <Cepheid> I input "07 06 07 06 06" as the search term, hex values for 7, 6, 7, 6, 6. Or the level 1 stats of an ungeared Sovereign.
21:16 <Cepheid> I got 3 hits.
21:16 <Schism> Hmmmm.
21:17 <Cepheid> That said, I don't see any other related stats around it.
21:17 <Cepheid> That is, HP and TP.
21:18 <Cepheid> Health, 44, TP 18. That comes to 2C and 12, respectively. Let's see..
21:18 <Schism> Derived stats, I would think.
21:19 <Cepheid> Not really.
21:19 <Cepheid> Stats don't affect HP or TP.
21:19 <Schism> But level and class does.
21:21 <Cepheid> Yeah, but there *IS* a growth chart.
21:21 <Schism> Oh. That's convenient then.
21:21 <Cepheid> I know what the file structure looks like, in terms of directory and what files there are.
21:21 <Cepheid> I just don't know how to attach one to the other.
21:21 <Cepheid> The connecting data is all weird.
21:22 <Cepheid> Like, in the big binary file, at the very start, offset 00000000h, there's a FBIN file, that has a size of 3190h bytes.
21:22 <Cepheid> But there's no reference to it in the index file.
21:22 <Cepheid> Meanwhile, a later FBIN file in the archive, is definitely referenced in the index, and has the correct size associated with it.
21:23 <Cepheid> Then there's 5 other FBIN files, all with their own indexes, but incorrect sizes. In fact..
21:23 <Cepheid> I checked the data for all 5 files, and they all share the same size information, and a few other attributes.
21:23 <Cepheid> I want to say there's compression involved in the index data, but that doesn't explain why I am able to find the locations of numerous files located in the main archive file.
21:24 <Cepheid> I've been able to locate over 20 or so files.
21:24 <Cepheid> Most of them have the actual, correct sizes. The rest, they all have some sort of constant number.
21:24 <Cepheid> In the case of the above 5 files I mentioned, the number is 0532h, which is not their size. And all five files have different sizes.
21:25 <Cepheid> At first, I thought it was an indicator that their filesize can be calculated based on the file's data, because that's how I know what their size is. But then..
21:25 <Cepheid> I got another FBIN file, with all the same data for identifying it's file size. I calculated the size. It matches what's in the index file, rather than the standard 0532h value.
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21:26 <Cepheid> And it can't be compression, because by having five files all use "3205"(File data is in little-endian format, I have to swap it to get 'readable' numbers), then that implies that they should all have the same size.
21:26 <Cepheid> But they don't.
21:28 <Cepheid> Plus, the way the data itself is stored is weird. There's sequences of patterns I can read. 3 bytes, unknown, 4 bytes, offset of file divided by 4, 4 bytes size, 3 bytes, unknown, 4 bytes, offset of file divided by 4, 4 bytes size, etc.
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21:28 <Cepheid> But even that repeating pattern is not stable.
21:28 <Cepheid> In some cases, I get 3 bytes unknown, 4 bytes offset, 3 bytes unknown, 4 bytes offset, 4 bytes size, 3 bytes unknown, 4 bytes offset, 4 bytes size, etc.
21:29 <Cepheid> That is, the offset exists in the file, but no size is associated.
21:29 <Cepheid> And it's not some case of maybe it's an archive-within-an-archive, where the offsets following are indices into a larger file. The offsets of those files go outside the size of the file with no size specified.
21:30 <Cepheid> And, I know these are offsets. Because every one I've checked, leads to the header of a file.
21:30 <Cepheid> And they're also the only instances of those values.
21:30 <Cepheid> It's an arcane file format, to be sure.
21:35 <LibrarianofHope> my old school marines should arrive soon
21:35 <LibrarianofHope> having lots ofs connections is great, one finds cool stuff
21:36 * LibrarianofHope pokes schism, cuase yay
21:36 <Cepheid> Aaand I just found another kind of file.
21:37 <Cepheid> Something called an FLWO file.
21:37 * Schism makes a squeak, like a rubber chicken.
21:37 <Cepheid> Based on the PLAIN TEXT DATA in it, it covers event data.
21:37 <LibrarianofHope> squeaky schism
21:37 <LibrarianofHope> most nice
21:37 <Schism> Yes. Also, nice -- something in PLAINTEXT for a change.
21:38 <Cepheid> Mostly plain text. It's a combination of plain text and binary.
21:38 <LibrarianofHope> everything shall be typed in comic sans
21:38 <LibrarianofHope> its the most professional font
21:40 * Cepheid grabs directory structure info, puts it in a text file, then shoves it onto google drive.
21:40 <Cepheid> I got the program on my laptop, not my PC, which has better hex editors to work with.
21:42 <Cepheid> If I had to guess..
21:44 <Cepheid> I probably found Data/Event/sea_place_explain.mbm.
21:44 <Cepheid> Know what makes using a plaintext search impossible, Schism?
21:45 <Cepheid> None of the ingame text is stored in English, as far as I can tell.
21:45 <Schism> Oh yech.
21:45 <Cepheid> That, or it's compressed.
21:45 <Cepheid> But if I try searching for strings in the game, like the names of classes? No luck.
21:46 <Schism> You know, at this point I'm of half a mind to throw you over to Sara and see what she can make of you.
21:46 <Cepheid> Who?
21:46 <Schism> Sara Lene, of Rockin Android.
21:46 <Schism> Leen*
21:47 <Cepheid> Oh, them. The ones who published Suguri, and other games.
21:47 <Cepheid> Or developed. Not sure which.
21:47 *** Quits: RyuImperator (RyuImperato@Pony-trb5lu.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) (Quit: Leaving.)
21:47 <Schism> Translated and published, yes.
21:48 <Cepheid> 469 FLW0(It was FLW0, not FLWO) files.
21:49 <Cepheid> For what reason though Schism? Advice, or..?
21:49 <Schism> She was also the one responsible for the patch for that RO sidescroller.
21:49 <Schism> Frankly, employment.
21:50 <Cepheid> Ah.
21:50 <Cepheid> Yeah, I'm not certain I'm good enough.
21:50 <Cepheid> I also don't have a portfolio worth showing.
21:51 <Cepheid> And your word, while I presume good, because you seem to have a lot of connections apparently, probably won't be enough.
21:52 <Cepheid> 469 files, and there are... 557 event files. Not the event files then. What are these? *Modifies directory listing program to extract extensions, then report a count of files with extensions.
21:52 <Schism> Eh. It's worth a shot anyway. And of course, you could always talk to Floofy and Sniff if that bridge hasn't been sublimated.
21:52 <Cepheid> Oh?
21:53 <Schism> Yeah, they've got connections too.
21:53 <Cepheid> Heh.
21:53 <Cepheid> I'm not much for making connections, to be honest. So yeah, I envy you folks for that.
21:53 <Cepheid> I... keep to myself. I'm trouble. I know I'm trouble.
21:53 <Schism> I am terrible at social interaction. However, people think for some reason that I'm responsible.
21:53 <Schism> I'm not sure entirely how.
21:55 <Schism> Cepheid, you might be troublesome, but we still do like you. We all got our own weights to carry.
21:57 <Cepheid> Right, these FLW0 files are files with the extension .bf
21:58 <Cepheid> Which are indeed event files.
21:58 <Cepheid> ...
21:58 <Cepheid> There's a .txt file stored somewhere in here.
21:59 <Cepheid> "CharaLightTable.txt"
21:59 <Schism> omgfloofy, from back in the day, works for the folks behind the Ys localizations.
21:59 <Cepheid> Ah.
21:59 <Cepheid> 28 FBIN files.. Strangely I only see 18 .bin files in the listing.
22:00 <Schism> Hmmmm.
22:00 <Cepheid> There is, however, exactly one file extension that has 10 files associated with it.
22:00 <Cepheid> .nsdat.
22:00 <Cepheid> 10 + 18 = 28.
22:01 <Cepheid> I'm still curious about one thing.
22:01 <Cepheid> There's 26 floor files.
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22:01 <Cepheid> The dungeon, in-game, only goes from 1 to 25 inclusive. So 25 floors.
22:01 <Cepheid> What's on that 26th floor?
22:01 *** Quits: endoriazel_ (coprah@Pony-6fntgo.qbn3.jn35.04f8.2a01.IP) (Quit: Quitted)
22:01 <Cepheid> Normally, I'd chalk it up to being related to how the game's stratums are 4 floors instead of 5, but 5 * 6 = 30, not 26.
22:01 <Schism> You're thinking it's a debug placeholder. Could it be a placeholder for the town?
22:01 <Cepheid> And the sea map? That's two maps, in itself.
22:02 <Cepheid> Hum, I had not considered that, Schism.
22:02 <Cepheid> Most prevalent files are .cmp files, .ntfp, and .tbl files.
22:02 <Cepheid> There's also 7 files with no extension.
22:03 * Schism nodnods.
22:03 <Cepheid> Hmm. No.
22:03 <Schism> Too large?
22:03 <Schism> <Alistair> Ahahaa no.
22:04 <Cepheid> More a C# thing.
22:04 <Schism> Alastair, or whatever his name is. Also, heh.
22:04 <Cepheid> It says that if the input of IndexOf() is an empty string, it returns 0.
22:04 <Cepheid> And my check for extensions is if IndexOf() returns >= 0
22:04 <Cepheid> So there are entries with no name at all.
22:05 <Schism> That seems...
22:05 <Cepheid> Or, rather, it could be programmer error.
22:05 <Schism> I'm not sure how to describe an adjective for something which exists without existing.
22:05 <Cepheid> But, let's find out.
22:06 <Schism> Paradoxical, perhaps.
22:06 <Cepheid> Oh.
22:07 <Cepheid> It's several files with no extension, that aren't directories.
22:07 <Cepheid> ESE, SE, Atlus, Debug, TestBattleBG, TestBattleUnit and player. Just player, no capitalization.
22:09 * Cepheid puts on EO Nexus music*
22:10 <Cepheid> My medication has affected my brain.
22:10 <Cepheid> Normally, I would question the logic of what I'm doing. It's effectively a waste of time, from an external viewpoint.
22:10 <Cepheid> I'm searching a rom of an ancient game for data no one cares about.
22:11 <Cepheid> But, there's another way to look at it.
22:11 <Cepheid> I'm learning how to datamine.
22:11 <Cepheid> And analyze patterns and sequences.
22:13 <Cepheid> You know, there's a reasonably large number of these EFD files.
22:14 <Cepheid> 350 or so. And they're all the same size as far as I can tell. Or at least, some multiple of the same size.
22:14 <Cepheid> They also have the nature of starting with the name of the actual file, minus the extension in the data.
22:15 <Cepheid> The only trick is that "multiple of size" and that some files reference other files by name without extension.
22:20 <Cepheid> Interesting. Only 117 cases of size B4000000
22:21 * Cepheid writes a quick tool to search for this size, then extract 16 bytes prior to, and *AFTER* the size, and then print out the data in hex format.
22:22 <Cepheid> Only way to figure out if there's any sort of patterns. Gotta examine the data around it.
22:23 *** Ali|AFK is now known as Ali
22:25 <Cepheid> ... I think I'm going through mania.
22:25 <Schism> Quite possibly.
22:25 <Schism> But at least you're using that constructively before the downswing.
22:26 * Ali noms Schism ankles, for the great devourer
22:26 * Schism places the Great Serpent of Ronka on Ali's head. It screes adorably.
22:26 <Cepheid> Honestly?
22:27 <Cepheid> I haven't had a problem with the downswing since starting the Vyvanse.
22:27 * Ali starts to nom it, must adapt for the great devourer
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22:27 <Cepheid> So I'm not sure if I'm suffering mania or not anymore, or if my problem was just lack of focus and control.
22:27 <Cepheid> Because the Vyvanse is meant to deal with my ADHD.
22:27 <Cepheid> It does nothing for my OCD, none of the medication I have does anything for it.
22:28 <Cepheid> In fact, I'm starting to wonder if I was ever suffering burnout at all, and that it was just "Ooh, shiny!" distractions.
22:28 <Cepheid> Because I won't lie, I like to get distracted by new projects all the time. Or rather, used to.
22:28 <Schism> Could be... it's hard to really make the distinction if there's no real way to be sure.
22:28 <Cepheid> Now all I think about these days are my Etrian Odyssey clone, La-Mulana clone, or this.
22:28 <Schism> Still, it's nice to have something you can really dig your teeth into.
22:30 <Cepheid> Certainly. I feel like I could actually complete something, for a change.
22:31 <Schism> Heck, it sounds like a plausible idea. And you're getting an idea of things that could be used in your own projects.
22:31 * Ali lays belts going in circles
22:32 * Schism decides a shower is a good idea.
22:32 * Ali showers Schism in ripper swarms
22:36 * PrincessRainbows flops on Ali and sads
22:37 * Ali noms PrincessRainbows ankles
22:37 <PrincessRainbows> Nuu!
22:38 * PrincessRainbows looks at Ali with wide eyes and raises her hooves
22:38 * Ali nuu's, she needs to nom for the great devourer
22:39 <Cepheid> And there we go.
22:39 <Schism> Ali, did they release an Omnitog?
22:39 <Ali> The what now?
22:39 <Schism> Atog, but for -everything.-
22:40 <Cepheid> Wrote a tool that searches for 0xB4000000, then, extracts the 16 bytes surrounding that number, and prints out the resulting stream of 36 bytes as space-separated hex digits.
22:40 <Ali> No, the only interesting thing in the preview is a possible busted addaptation
22:40 * PrincessRainbows kicks at her collar and whimpers
22:40 <Schism> Oh, alas.
22:40 <Cepheid> And outputs each sequence as a line, to a text file. o3o.
22:40 <Cepheid> o3o b I did good.
22:40 <Ali> Where if any bug is shot by overwatch, it gets a 4+ to ignore it.
22:40 <Ali> Combined with a Genestealer's innate 5+ invulnerable save
22:40 <Cepheid> Man that is distressing. There is... a lot of identical bytes along all the streams.
22:40 <Ali> This means you're not going to be killing many of those multi arm gribblies
22:46 <Cepheid> So... Obviously, the size data is identical across all instances I've found. So we can ignore that.
22:47 <Cepheid> And, as expected, the four bytes prior are an offset.
22:47 * Schism blinks at Ali. "Wait. Real WH40K, or the card game?"
22:47 <Ali> Real 40k Schism
22:48 <Ali> Called Senses of the Outer Dark
22:48 * Schism ahhs. Does not know that much about it, except that if Castus Grendel takes the field, you've already lost.
22:48 <Cepheid> Oh yeah, Schism. I accidentally spoiled the name of the final boss of Etrian Odyssey Nexus, and... I gotta be honest, it's both surprising, and unsurprising.
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22:48 <Cepheid> Given the nature of the name of the series, and a common factor among all of them.
22:48 <Schism> What, Yggdrasil or something?
22:49 <Cepheid> Name of the game series: Labyrinth of the World Tree. Common factor: Yggdrasil the Tree.
22:49 <Cepheid> It's related to Yggdrasil, the final boss.
22:49 <Cepheid> Jormungand.
22:49 <Schism> Oh, Jormangund.
22:49 <Cepheid> The World Serpent.
22:49 <Schism> Makes sense, yeah.
22:49 <Cepheid> First reference to Norse Mythology in the entire series, as far as I know.
22:49 <Schism> The ultimate mundivore.
22:49 <Schism> Eh? No, that'd be Yggdrasil.
22:49 <Cepheid> Besides that.
22:50 <Cepheid> Though technically there are other references, depending on how you want to look at it.
22:51 <Cepheid> Now then... I know that those 4 bytes are the offset. And those 4 bytes following are the size.
22:51 <Cepheid> Right now, these lines are sorted by occurrence of 0xB4000000 in the index.
22:51 <Cepheid> But let's go back and add a second re-printing, that sorts by offset.
22:51 *** Quits: Dekko (none@Pony-nagugu.2-244-77-cable-cust.lnctv.com) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds)
22:51 <Cepheid> All of these files, they're densely packed in the archive.
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22:54 <Ali> Are we talking Nids Jormungandr?
22:55 <Schism> EO Jormangundr.
22:55 <Schism> But yes, some relation to Nidhogg.
22:55 <Cepheid> Norse Mythology related.
22:56 * PrincessRainbows flops about
22:58 * Cepheid blares Ys Origin - Beyond the Beginning
22:59 <Cepheid> That's the first time I ever used C++17's tuple.
22:59 <Cepheid> And auto vars.
23:00 * Cepheid plays the Tower of Darm's Devil Wind theme around Schism.
23:03 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Discussion: Would Your Personality Actually Change If You Ended Up In Equestria? [ http://tinyurl.com/sgxl4vz ]
23:06 *** Joins: LibrarianofHope (Librarianof@Pony-nv8.19p.147.189.IP)
23:06 * PrincessRainbows licks LibrarianofHope
23:07 <LibrarianofHope> yay
23:08 <PrincessRainbows> Tastes too wordy
23:11 <Cepheid> Aaaand voila. Got unsorted(Sorted by offset into index file) and sorted(sorted by offset into binary file)
23:13 <Cepheid> Folks, if you order off amazon, have it delivered to the nearest postoffice.
23:13 <Cepheid> News story. Because it's Christmas season, packages are getting delivered everywhere, and they're getting stolen. In fact, one of my sister's packages was apparently stolen.
23:13 <Ali> People will always steal packages
23:14 <Cepheid> Yeah, but it's gonna happen a lot now due to the season.
23:15 <Cepheid> Seriously, this data format.
23:15 <Cepheid> 3 bytes, unknown. 4 bytes, offset. 4 bytes, size.
23:15 <Cepheid> Or, so it appears.
23:15 <Cepheid> 357 EFC files..
23:15 <LibrarianofHope> death stranding quote?
23:16 <Cepheid> Or at least, 357 files that start with EFC. And there's 350 EFD files.
23:16 <Cepheid> +7 no-extension files, that's 357
23:17 <Cepheid> Those first 3 bytes are indicators of something, I *KNOW* it.
23:17 <Cepheid> ...
23:17 * Cepheid checks something.
23:18 <Cepheid> Nope.
23:19 <Schism> "Ponyville was now being terrorized by Tirek, the Stay-Puft Marshmallow Centaur."
23:19 * Cepheid adds more debug data.
23:19 <Ali> You sure? He's stoned now.
23:19 <Cepheid> I know that those 4 bytes are an offset, so let's make my life easier and print out the scaled address.
23:20 <Schism> Ali: AU where someone gets the bright idea of stuffing Poison Joak into Tirek's mouth. It doesn't help.
23:20 * Cepheid also prints out those 3 bytes in binary.
23:20 <Ali> But again Schism, he's stone
23:20 <Schism> First time, not last.
23:23 <Schism> "Cobalt was staring at the abomination as if transfixed, watching buildings crushed in an instant. 'I was thinking of something harmless,' he stammered. 'Something that could never hurt anypony.'"
23:23 <LibrarianofHope> who would be the evil god in this scenerio
23:23 <LibrarianofHope> zull wasnt the ghostbuster guy?
23:24 <Schism> I dunno. Could have been Grogar.
23:24 *** Joins: Golden (uid250033@Pony-360sli.charlton.irccloud.com)
23:25 * Golden flops.
23:25 * Schism provides Golden with a pair of shoes. Albeit dropped from orbit into Virginia.
23:31 * Cepheid puts on Lone Digger.
23:32 <Cepheid> There we go. Lots of data to work with now.
23:32 <Cepheid> Hum. Ye know, 3 + 4 + 4 = 11, which fits the maximum size of an element in the index table assuming approximately 7,500 files.
23:33 <Cepheid> Okay, so here is some hilariousness.
23:34 <Cepheid> Schism, I have the data sorted both by offset in the index file, and offset in the binary file.
23:34 <Cepheid> Now, the first entry in the second list is, indeed, followed by the second entry in the binary file.
23:34 <Cepheid> But then it jumps ahead a huge number for no apparent reason.
23:35 <Cepheid> Logically, the third entry should be the next file in the binary file.
23:35 <Cepheid> But the third entry points elsewhere.
23:35 <Cepheid> And it makes no sense that the next file in the binary file is not included in the list, since it is EXACTLY THE SAME SIZE.
23:35 <Cepheid> And I told the program to extract all files with a specific size.
23:36 <Cepheid> .. And there's that 0562 entry again for the size, even though the size of the specified file is, in fact, B400
23:37 * Cepheid modifies program to allow command-line parameters to specify values.
23:43 <Cepheid> ... There's only 3 entries with size listed as "62050000"
23:45 <Cepheid> That's becuase it's actually 620500CD... and that CD is actually part of the offset for the next file.
23:46 <Cepheid> So size is actually 3 bytes, then?
23:46 <Cepheid> or..?
23:49 <Cepheid> Hmm.
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23:51 <Cepheid> It makes no sense...
23:53 * PrincessRainbows licks PinkieShy till he's dripping and pants
23:53 * PinkieShy headpats PrincessRainbows
23:54 <Cepheid> ... That 650200 is the start of an entry, it's not a size.
23:55 * Golden rolls rolls around.
23:57 <LibrarianofHope> the old school minis i got are so pretty
23:57 <LibrarianofHope> i probably got em cheap too, im happy
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