Log archive of EquestriaDaily for Tuesday, 2019-12-17

00:04 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Drawfriend - Equestria Girls / Anthro MLP Art Gallery #157 [ http://tinyurl.com/s3sr9e9 ]

00:08 * Starlight_Glimmer sends LibrarianofHope a goose plush

00:09 <LibrarianofHope> honk

00:12 <LibrarianofHope> the goose says "peace was never an option"

00:12 * LibrarianofHope honks at glim glam

00:15 <LibrarianofHope> the anime figurine arrived ok

00:16 <LibrarianofHope> im developing a clock bias, heck me

00:16 * Ali still wants her pony playmats but they're still in rip off range..

00:17 <LibrarianofHope> scalpers are a pox on society

00:20 <Starlight_Glimmer> Ali: Link?

00:20 <Ali> https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=m570.l1313&_nkw=ponies+the+galloping+playmats&_sacat=0

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00:22 <Starlight_Glimmer> I'm quite confused as to why they have MTG branding and cost a fortune

00:23 <Starlight_Glimmer> I mean looking at MTG that might be a related issue :P

00:23 <Ali> Starlight_Glimmer, it was a charity thing

00:23 <Ali> For $100 you got 3 playmats and $80 went to charity

00:23 <Ali> But they sold out in ONE MINUTE

00:24 <Starlight_Glimmer> Wow

00:25 <Starlight_Glimmer> I just read an article, nice idea

00:26 <Ali> Hmmm?

00:27 <Starlight_Glimmer> About the collaboration

00:27 <Starlight_Glimmer> Well it's all Hasbro anyway

00:28 <LibrarianofHope> that price is obscene

00:28 <LibrarianofHope> almost as bad as clocks

00:28 * LibrarianofHope declares a crusade on clocks!

00:30 <Starlight_Glimmer> You should not have shown me that

00:31 <Ali> You asked...

00:31 <Starlight_Glimmer> Now I kinda want the Luna playmat even though I don't care about Nagic

00:31 <Starlight_Glimmer> Magic*

00:31 <Starlight_Glimmer> Silly phone

00:32 <LibrarianofHope> silly phone, trix are for kids

00:32 <LibrarianofHope> !link trix

00:32 <DerpyBot> http://derpibooru.org/334993

00:33 <LibrarianofHope> i wanted cereal owo

00:33 <Starlight_Glimmer> I'd expect that even if prices normalize I won't consider that to be in the budget I have allocated for silly purchases though

00:33 <LibrarianofHope> it will take about 6 months im guessing

00:34 <LibrarianofHope> i dont get the pricing, it never works

00:34 <LibrarianofHope> they wont move the mats, i would sell them at reasonable prices, better a slight profit that no profit

00:36 <Starlight_Glimmer> At least one was sold for about 600€

00:37 <Starlight_Glimmer> eBay offers a filter option for past auctions

00:37 <LibrarianofHope> yep, but how many pony fans have that disposable income?

00:37 <Starlight_Glimmer> Enough?

00:38 <LibrarianofHope> not really

00:38 <Ali> Starlight_Glimmer, its come down a bit

00:38 <LibrarianofHope> it will come down eventually

00:38 <Ali> Most floated around 1k for awhile

00:38 <Starlight_Glimmer> I'm not exactly wealthy - the opposite actually - and if I cared enough I could spend 600 bucks on thar

00:39 <Ali> Those have been up for a while now and haven't moved.

00:39 <Starlight_Glimmer> that*

00:39 <LibrarianofHope> but you dont, hence the point

00:39 <LibrarianofHope> its like lottery

00:39 <Starlight_Glimmer> Yeah 1k is way out of proportion

00:39 <LibrarianofHope> one scalper can hit the jackpot of a fan with lotsa money, but must wont

00:41 <Starlight_Glimmer> It doesn't hurt them to try though

00:41 <Starlight_Glimmer> It's not like they have an expiration date

00:42 <LibrarianofHope> its a sleazy technique

00:42 <Starlight_Glimmer> And with limited supply there's no motivation to stop

00:43 <Starlight_Glimmer> I don't personally get the idea of collector's value, but many people pay stupid money for certain items. MTG is the best example

00:43 <Starlight_Glimmer> A single card can be worth 50k

00:44 <LibrarianofHope> the black lotus

00:44 <LibrarianofHope> yep

00:44 <Starlight_Glimmer> Prices go up and drop of course, but the order if magnitude is silly enough if you ask me for a freaking piece of cardboard

00:44 <LibrarianofHope> its the tale behind it

00:44 <LibrarianofHope> thtas why its considered valuable

00:48 <LibrarianofHope> im going to go nurse my headache

00:48 <LibrarianofHope> see ya tommorow

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00:49 <Starlight_Glimmer> I don't even spend hundreds of bucks for custom plushies because I'm a cheapskate. Still hoping wobniaR has put me in his will :3

00:50 * Starlight_Glimmer does have a Luna, Glim Glan and Sunset plush though, but they're factory made

00:53 * Ali has most of the build a bear ponies, they're not the highest quality, but they're still ponies.

00:57 <Starlight_Glimmer> We might be able to blackmail AppleDash out if his Glim Glam plush. I  guarantee there are corpses in his basement

00:59 * Ali hids her BaB Glim Glam

01:01 <Starlight_Glimmer> Oh!

01:01 <Starlight_Glimmer> I never knew it was a Glim Glam *eyes Ali*

01:02 <Ali> I have most of them I said

01:02 <Ali> Derps, The princesses, Mane 6, Zecora, Shimmerbutt

01:03 <Starlight_Glimmer> Ah I missed that and I'm also blissfully unaware of what they actually have

01:04 <Ali> But one is Glim Glam

01:04 * Ali boops Starlight_Glimmer nosie

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01:08 <Starlight_Glimmer> Their German mobile website is horrible

01:08 <Starlight_Glimmer> The only one I can see is BigMac and a couple of accessories. Amazing how one is better off with Amazon.

01:09 <Starlight_Glimmer> The U.S. website works flawlessly if course

01:09 <Starlight_Glimmer> Of*

01:10 <Starlight_Glimmer> I'm living on cursed land.

01:10 * Cepheid decides to, for a few hours, switch game gears, and examine the data for a game series that's dead in the water.

01:10 <Ali> Fallout 76? *shot*

01:10 <Cepheid> Looking at Castlevania: Dawn of Sorrow.

01:11 <Cepheid> Castlevania series is dead in the water 'cause Konami left gamedev for consoles.

01:12 <Cepheid> Interestingly, it has a massive number of overlay files.

01:12 <Ali> Wouldn't you learn from Google to not do that?

01:12 <Cepheid> Hmm?

01:13 <Ali> You haven't heard of Stadia and its collasial flop?

01:13 <Cepheid> ...

01:13 <Cepheid> I don't follow where you're going with this.

01:14 <Ali> If Konami is making consoles

01:14 <Ali> They better not pull a Stadia

01:14 <Cepheid> ...

01:14 <Ali> What

01:14 <Cepheid> Let me rephrase "left gamedev for consoles."

01:14 <Cepheid> There's probably missing punctuation.

01:14 <Cepheid> Long story short, Konami has stopped development of games on consoles.

01:14 <Ali> So they're only going on mobile now?

01:14 <Cepheid> They no longer develop console games.  Instead, they do gatcha games, or gambling games.

01:15 <Cepheid> Like, in-person gambling games.

01:16 <Cepheid> They just up and canceled all game development for consoles.

01:16 <Cepheid> Castlevania as a game series is basically dead in the water, as a result.

01:16 <Ali> So basically Castlevania is dead

01:16 <Cepheid> The lead producer of the series has continued it, in a sense.

01:16 <Cepheid> He opened his own company, and is developing a new metroidvania series.

01:17 <Cepheid> It was in development hell for the longest time, but released a few months ago.

01:17 <Cepheid> That game is Bloodstained: Ritual of the Night.

01:18 <Cepheid> So, outside of that new series, we'll never see new games in the style of Symphony of The Night, the GBA games, or the DS games, anymore.

01:18 <Cepheid> So, it seems like a proper series to start hacking.

01:19 <Cepheid> That said, it'd be an easier case than EO3.

01:19 <Cepheid> Dawn of Sorrows, specifically, does not use any archive files.  Just uses the base NDS filesystem for storing all of it's files.  So no special archives to decompress.

01:20 <Cepheid> Editing it, as a result, will be considerably easier.  Unless the map data uses compression.

01:24 <Cepheid> That doesn't mean it'll be that much easier though.  Konami made use of many more features of the NDS and NDS Debugging than Atlus did.

01:25 <Cepheid> There's 41 friggen ARM9 overlays.  Those things add stuff to the program code when loaded.

01:25 <Stormspark> I have this lol

01:25 <Stormspark> https://i.imgur.com/yjzdFuO.jpg

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01:25 <Cepheid> Very nice, Stormspark.

01:25 <Stormspark> https://i.imgur.com/v9P6plq.jpg

01:25 <Stormspark> was expensive though lol

01:26 * Ali has no money to just throw away.

01:26 <Stormspark> I got that last year

01:26 <Stormspark> I also have 2 4DE's, a hanging one I got at BC last summer, and a smaller $450 custom I got in 2014

01:26 <Stormspark> one 4DE is on my computer here, the other is on my desk at work

01:27 <Cepheid> Ugh... tons of 8KiB files.

01:28 <Stormspark> all Konami game franchises are dead

01:28 <Stormspark> they don't make games anymore

01:28 <Stormspark> unless you count pachinko and slot machines as games

01:28 <Schism> They make pachinko machines!

01:28 <Schism> But yeah, especially Silent Hill.  :<

01:28 * Ali rolls over Schism

01:28 <Cepheid> Mmhmm.

01:28 <Cepheid> Let's see..

01:28 <Stormspark> if it wasn't so sad

01:28 <Stormspark> it'd be funny

01:28 <Stormspark> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plFIqE0e2O8

01:28 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.

01:28 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Konami Reveals A New Silent Hill... And It's A Slot Machine!

01:28 * Schism provides the Ali with an earscritch or two.

01:28 <Cepheid> 358 dat files in the data/bc folder.

01:28 * Ali purrs and leans into scritchies

01:29 <Stormspark> then again, the last two "games" they tried to make were absolutely hideously bad

01:29 <Cepheid> bm contains models in a nintendo proprietary format.

01:29 <Cepheid> 2 font files..

01:29 <Cepheid> one movie

01:29 <Stormspark> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIWwyyOzrFQ

01:29 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.

01:29 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Contra: Rogue Corps - Fucking Embarrassing (Jimpressions)

01:29 <Cepheid> And presumably all the s* files are sounds.

01:29 <Ali> Oh great, a bad Contra game

01:29 <Cepheid> Although that might be wrong, as there is a "sound_data.sdat" file.

01:30 <Stormspark> it's not even a Contra game, it's a generic piece of garbage that has nothing to do with Contra, that just has the name stuck on it

01:30 * Cepheid loads up a 100% save of the game, to examine how many defined "rooms" there are.

01:30 <Stormspark> Castlevania is dead, hasn't had a game in years, and won't

01:30 <Stormspark> the teams that produced the games have all left

01:30 <Cepheid> ... I don't have a 100% save?

01:30 <Cepheid> Yep.

01:30 <Cepheid> Hence hacking, Stormspark.

01:30 <Ali> I remember Contra 4

01:30 <Ali> That was a fun one

01:30 <Cepheid> There are way too many "rooms" to count here.

01:31 * Cepheid uses a hack solution.

01:31 <Ali> Annoyingly hard and had the NO ENDING FOR YOU SCRUB on if you were playing on a low difficulty

01:31 <Cepheid> So my solution's pretty hacky.

01:31 <Cepheid> Start a new game, go to the first save point, save.

01:32 <Cepheid> Count number of uncovered rooms on the map, then check what the percentage of uncovered rooms is.

01:32 <Cepheid> As the game tracks the percentage.

01:32 <Cepheid> Divide that number by number of uncovered rooms.  Then take the result of that, divide 100.0 by that.

01:33 <Cepheid> That said it only gives me a conservative number.

01:34 <Cepheid> 10 rooms uncovered, 0.9%  That's... 0.09% per room.

01:34 <Cepheid> ~1111 rooms.

01:34 <Cepheid> How large is a room, tile-wise..?

01:36 <Cepheid> 256x192 pixels for the screen size.  A single room fills the screen, so, acceptable tile sizes then are...

01:36 <Cepheid> Any power of two that's smaller than 192, really.

01:36 <Stormspark> too much Dash?  Nope, not possible

01:36 <Stormspark> https://i.imgur.com/85Awgvg.jpg

01:36 <Cepheid> So, 1, 2, 4, 8, 16, 32, 64, 128.

01:37 <Cepheid> Nah, I've seen people with much more fandom swag by far.

01:37 <Stormspark> 256, 512, 1024, 2048, 4096, 8192, 16384, 32768, 65536, dang that's as high as I can go from memory

01:37 <Cepheid> As for tile size, I'm betting... 16x16.  That means... 256 / 16 = 16 tiles across.  12 tiles high.

01:38 <Stormspark> I'm just really picky about swag

01:38 <Stormspark> only like certain things

01:38 <Cepheid> Heh.

01:38 <Cepheid> Also, I'm assuming they set individual tiles.  That... may not have been the case.

01:38 <Cepheid> It's common for side-scrollers to have objects that are placed, which are collections of tiles, identified by a number.

01:39 <Stormspark> I do it at work too (not as much as at home but still)

01:39 <Stormspark> https://i.imgur.com/yBjZCbM.jpg

01:39 <Cepheid> I don't have much in the way of swag.  If I did, most of it would likely be of Chen and Flandre from Touhou.

01:40 <Stormspark> I'm still getting two more plushies too

01:40 <Stormspark> not super expensive ones though, just smaller shoulder plushies

01:40 * Cepheid uses an emulator to determine which tile size seems reasonable. Grab a screenshot of the game, paste it into an editor, then divide the image into squares of equidistant size.

01:40 <Stormspark> a Dashie (of course, what else), and one of my OC

01:42 <Cepheid> .. Oh, the s* folders are sprite data.

01:42 <Cepheid> Hum, one of these file names intrigues me

01:43 <Cepheid> "tiobj.dat"

01:49 <Cepheid> I'd say... hmm.  8x8 or 16x16.

01:50 <Cepheid> So, rooms are either 32x24 tiles, or 16x12 tiles.

01:51 <Cepheid> Assuming unsigned integers of 2 and 4 bytes size for specifying the ID of the tile to use..

01:52 <Cepheid> Anywhere from 384 to 3072 bytes for a room.  Again, assuming all tiles are individually set.  This also assumes other details, like lack of layering, etc.

01:54 <Cepheid> 116 enemies..

01:55 <Cepheid> 165 data files in data/so.

01:55 <Cepheid> 826 in data/sc..

01:55 <Cepheid> 3 in data/sm.

01:56 <Cepheid> Likely data/so contains information on items, monsters, etc, etc.

01:57 * Cepheid uses Gamefaqs to determine something.

01:59 <Cepheid> 54 rooms wide, 41 rooms tall.  2214 rooms total possible.  I am not going to expand the game beyond this, if I hack it.

01:59 <Cepheid> Oh, that doesn't include the end area.

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02:03 <Cepheid> Hmm

02:03 <Cepheid> 4 types of room states.  Empty, Open, Save, Warp.  2 bits for that.

02:04 <Cepheid> From here on out, a room is a cell, since it makes contextually more sense to call it a cell, anyways..

02:04 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Nightly Discussion #2011 [ http://tinyurl.com/smz6tey ]

02:05 <Cepheid> Each cell can have four exits, with three states.  Wall, Transition, Nothing.  Again, another 2 bits, multiplied by however many sides are stored.  They could, like Etrian Oyddsey, did some fun optimization to pack it.

02:07 <Cepheid> Going for size, you only need to store state for 2 walls of a cell in a game's displayed map.  Going for completeness, 4 walls.  But then you risk overlap.

02:07 <Cepheid> So, assuming "going for size", that means a single cell is 4 bits.

02:08 <Cepheid> Er, 6 bits.

02:09 <Cepheid> I'm hoping it's easier than that, because densely packing data like that's a pain.  I'd prefer it if the devs used a byte for wall state, byte for cell state.

02:10 <Cepheid> 1661 bytes, 2768 bytes, or 4428 bytes.  Any files match this size..?

02:13 <Cepheid> ... Great.

02:14 <Cepheid> All of the files in the bc, and sm files are powers of 2 starting at 8192, in size.  The files in the bm, sm, and so files are variably-sized.

02:15 <Cepheid> Ah, good ole' Japanese and it's R/L issue.

02:15 <Cepheid> "gorem"

02:16 * Cepheid notices a filename. "f_conf.dat"

02:17 * Ali starts nomming on Cepheid ankles

02:17 * Cepheid pets the Ali and gives her a choice of popsicle of her preferred flavour, or ice cream cone of her preferred flavour.

02:17 * Ali takes chocolate ice cream

02:18 * Cepheid gives chocolate ice cream cone then.

02:18 * Ali eees and noms on it

02:18 * Schism provides all folks with some of those chocolate coronets. You know, those ice cream-inna-waffle-cone with nuts on the chocolate coating.

02:20 <Cepheid> It's amazing how obvious some data becomes once you've started working with it.

02:21 <Cepheid> Like for example, these files, they all have the same 4 bytes at their start.  Obviously a magic number to identify it.  Then after that, there's a number that, suspiciously lines up with the offset to the start of some other data that's distinct from what's at the top.

02:21 <Cepheid> So that's obviously an offset.

02:22 <Cepheid> Then a number of integers that are all suspiciously smaller than the size of the file.

02:23 <Cepheid> Okay, so the number is not the offset to the start of data.  It's part of a sequence of start-end pairs.

02:24 <Cepheid> I think I developed a new hobby, Schism.

02:25 <Ali> Hacking games and talking about it :P

02:28 <Cepheid> Ye. :P

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02:30 * Cepheid pokes the first monster in the game's enemy database. The zombie. This is easily discovered because the files are named after the romaji names of the monsters. And Zombie comes out to... "zombi"

02:30 <Cepheid> Unfortunately the game doesn't tell me it's stats.  Just what it drops and it's resistances.

02:32 <Ali> Its stats are weak and laughable and resists death

02:33 <Cepheid> Given even at 4 str I can kill one, yeah.

02:33 * Cepheid goes to hack the save file, see if he can set his stats to minimal to see if even 1 damage kills one.

02:35 <Cepheid> I wonder, does melon flush the file after saving..?

02:36 <Cepheid> Ah, good, it does.

02:37 <Cepheid> Looks like it's checksummed.

02:40 <Cepheid> Let's just assume for the sake of it, that a zombie cannot survive even 1 damage.

02:40 <Cepheid> It's a gods damned zombie in CV.

02:42 <Cepheid> Zombie, bat, ghost, 3 first enemies.  Alas, romaji of Japanese names, so I have to do some translation. o3o;

02:45 <Cepheid> ... o3o;

02:45 <Cepheid> I can't find the bat. o3o;

02:47 <Hajnal> Might they be using the actual Japanese word for bat here?

02:51 * Schism learns the Dragon's Voice and the Ram's Voice.

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02:52 * luckyspirit noses Ali in greeting

02:54 * Ali squeaks at luckyspirit

02:54 * luckyspirit licks Ali’s squeaker

02:55 <PinkieShy> Just had a scream and scare :(

02:55 <luckyspirit> Huh

02:56 <PinkieShy> Some roach like bug was on the ceiling, It had pointy legs nothing like a roach though..

02:56 <PinkieShy> and suddenly it fell and started to fly around making some buzzing sound until it landed in dust where i killed it..

02:56 <luckyspirit> Oh wow.  Creepy

02:56 <PinkieShy> I don't want to get poisoned by no bug if it was poisonious or something o_o

02:57 <PinkieShy> I don't like bugs :(

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03:04 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Makenshi: Twilight Music: Tadpole - Twilit Remembrance [Future Bass/Trap] [ http://tinyurl.com/vmwmosn ]

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03:17 <Cepheid> Hum.

03:17 <Cepheid> I know some of the data's not compressed.

03:17 <Cepheid> I've extracted a few sprite images.

03:19 <Cepheid> Case in point I just found one of Soma's face sprites.

03:19 <Cepheid> Sprites appear to be palette-based, 8 bits per pixel.

03:20 <Ali> Man this handegg game is rotten beyond compare

03:22 <Cepheid> First thing I need to do, isolate monsters from other data files.  Everything's just all crammed together, not in a single file, but in a single folder.

03:23 * Cepheid does this by creating a subfolder, and moving entries he can identify to it.

03:23 <Cepheid> Hajnal:  Amazingly, I tried that.  None of the words for "bat" that come up in the dictionary match the names, and the names are all in ascii.

03:27 <Cepheid> ... Oh.  I think I found it.

03:27 <Cepheid> Oh, no.  That's fish.

03:28 * Cepheid skips over that entry. Whatever's left at the end will likely be it.

03:33 <Cepheid> Right this isn't gonna work.  o3o;

03:33 <Cepheid> I need to be able to extract the names from the files.

03:34 <Cepheid> ..

03:35 <Cepheid> Guess what the magic number is for these files.

03:36 <Cepheid> The bytes, in their proper order:  F00DBEEF

03:38 <Schism> ... haaaa.

03:45 <Cepheid> Okay, the sc folder is definitely all the sprite data for entities.

03:47 * Ali flails. "Save me from this god awful game."

03:47 <Cepheid> Sprites are stored as literal, raw data.

03:47 <Cepheid> There's no header to it.

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03:51 <Cepheid> Right.

03:51 <Cepheid> Those powers-of-two files are all images.

03:52 <Cepheid> They're all textures, images.  Their size often reveals their dimensions.  16KiB files are 128x128.  8KiB 64x128.

03:54 <Cepheid> Most of them, anyways.

04:05 <Cepheid> I get the strong impression that the text is all stored in the ROM's various overlays and/or ARM9 binary.

04:12 * Cepheid sighs. Decides it's time to learn to decompress LZ77.

04:13 <Hajnal> What game is it, Ali ?

04:14 <Ali> Handegg

04:14 <Hajnal> oh fun

04:27 <Ali> Team got murdered 34-7

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05:36 * Schism lets out a tiny shriek. Then a larger one.

05:38 * Ali flops over Schism

05:38 * PinkieShy hands Ali a glass of tea

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05:40 <Schism> Neeeeeed to just... go to sleep.  Bleh.

05:54 * Ali tucks Schism to bed

06:03 * PinkieShy screams

06:03 <PinkieShy> The Stanley Parable: Ultra Deluxe.. Just learned of this thing..

06:03 <PinkieShy> Supposedly the website says it will make new endings and more :D

06:05 <Golden> Yup

06:10 * PrincessRainbows stretches her hooves

06:12 * PrincessRainbows sits on Ali. Giddy up, up, up!

06:15 * Ali sorries, giddy up mode is permantly disabled due to depression.

06:16 * PrincessRainbows brushies the Ali instead

06:24 <PrincessRainbows> Such a pretty pony

06:34 * Ali isn't pretty..

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06:49 <PinkieShy> Any pony here.. Know anything about Kerosene.. Perhaps?

06:49 * PinkieShy licks Ali

06:50 <Ali> Its an oil lamp thing :P

06:51 <PinkieShy> I know that..

06:51 <PinkieShy> But like do any of you know.. Does say smelling it like i just did... (Dumb yes i know...) Do any damage?

06:52 <PinkieShy> It was just a second to see if it smelled fine or whatever to still use.. Its a fairly old bottle.

06:52 <PinkieShy> Maybe 19 years old.. o_o

06:53 * Ali doesn't honestly know, sniff vs snort is quite a difference and isn't sure if kero expires.

06:53 <PinkieShy> Ali do you think i'll be fine? :(

06:56 <Ali> The US National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health (NIOSH) has set a recommended exposure limit of 100 mg/m3 over an 8-hour workday

06:57 <PinkieShy> O.o okay

06:58 <Ali> So I doubt a sniff of Kero should exceed that

06:58 <Ali> But if you start to feel strange I'd go get checked out just in case.

07:01 <PinkieShy> Okay :3

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07:24 <Golden> Bluh Xfinity is people troublesome!!!

07:30 * Golden flops.

07:31 <Ali> Eeyup, its why I went to ATT even though they're not much better.

07:32 <Golden> I meant being*

07:33 <Golden> Idk why my phone when "people". Anyway my entire capital city is down. Some idiot must of tripped on a plug I swear.

07:34 <Ali> Or slammed into a wifi tower

07:36 <Golden> Knowing how incompetent they are at Xfinity/Comcast since they can't keep their Network up for more than two days someone most likely tripped on a plug.

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07:52 <Golden> Considering that 160$+ a month is paid for it all I wish is they oh I don't know make sure their service didn't go down every other day!!!

07:55 <Golden> So flipping annoying...

08:07 <PinkieShy> I'm glad they aren't here lol

08:07 <PinkieShy> Nothing is out where i live except for the local only one.. Time warner refuses to come out this far lol

08:18 <Golden> Ah

08:25 <PinkieShy> Only choice for TV i have is.. Using Internet services like Sling.. Or Dish, Direct TV, or Horry Telephone.

08:34 <Golden> Ah

08:35 <Golden> Well most seem better than Xfinity right now

08:39 * Golden flops.

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08:54 * Jackie flops on Golden

08:54 <Golden> Hm?

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09:24 <ConfusionRift> Hello everypony.

09:44 * Ali flops into ConfusionRift

09:48 * ConfusionRift patpats Ali.

09:48 * Jackie picks up Ali

09:49 * Ali squeaks

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10:09 <Lumindia> Pooonnnyyy

10:09 * Ali squeaks at Lumindia

10:10 <Lumindia> How ish an AliPone today

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10:25 * Lumindia pets and cuddles

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11:05 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Morning Discussion #1784 [ http://tinyurl.com/te76su4 ]

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11:11 * PrincessRainbows falls from the sky onto ConfusionRift. Go horsey go!

11:12 * ConfusionRift runs around.

11:13 <PrincessRainbows> Good horsey

11:16 * PrincessRainbows sits in front of ConfusionRift and raises her hooves. Up?

11:17 * ConfusionRift grabs PrincessRainbows. :P

11:18 * PrincessRainbows kicks her hind hooves. Is good horse

11:21 <Cyan_Spark> o3o

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12:25 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: New "Pony Value Boxes" Hit Target  [ http://tinyurl.com/uhedujr ]

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13:40 <Schism> Hey, hey Cepheid.

13:40 <Schism> The password for SCP-3125 is '55555'.  Because of course it is.

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14:14 * Schism is a fox.

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14:50 <Schism> Okay, Microsoft.  Stop it.  Call it the YBox, or something.  Don't, -don't- just call the new console the "XBox". Please.

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15:13 <Cepheid> Baaaah.

15:13 <Cepheid> I'm gonna be late for an appointment.

15:13 <Cepheid> I thought it was at 12:45.  It's at 10:45.

15:15 <Cepheid> "Well, we'd appreciate it if you were on time." "Yes, sorry about that.  Stupidity on my part and sleep deprivation."  Yeah, not my best response, but ye know...

15:15 <Schism> These folks do understand.

15:15 <Cepheid> "We'd appreciate it if you were on time."  That's fine and dandy, except, every time I'm on time, you leave me waiting for 30-45+ minutes anyways.

15:16 <Cepheid> I cannot recall a single doctors appointment wherein the appointment actually happened on time.

15:16 <Cepheid> So, yes.  I understand you appreciate if I was on time, but you know, I'd appreciate it if the doctor kept to the schedule as well.

15:17 <Cepheid> Plus, this is the only appointment with this doctor that I've been late for in a grand total of... 30 or so appointments in the last 4 years?

15:18 <Schism> As they say, crap happens.

15:18 <Cepheid> Mmhmm.

15:18 <Schism> Is that the same doctor who refuses to refer you to an endocrinologist?

15:18 <Cepheid> No.

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15:18 <Cepheid> ENT, the one looking after my sinuses.

15:18 <Schism> Oh, gotcha.

15:20 <Cepheid> ...

15:20 * Cepheid sighs.

15:20 <Cepheid> I have to call back *AGAIN* because I'm not sure which location it's at either.  I really wish I had bothered to wake myself up to write down the appointment details when the nurse called the other day, or, ye know, let my answering machine take the call.

15:21 * Cepheid face palms. He's already embarrassed and annoyed at his stupidity.

15:24 <Cepheid> This is an appointment I've been waiting a month or two for, why am I so inept about it?

15:26 <Cepheid> No idea of what time it was, what day it was on, not even where it was.

15:26 <Cepheid> No indication what-so-ever that it was written down.

15:27 <Cepheid> I don't want to call back because I'll be sounding like an asshole, but at the same time.. =.=;

15:29 <Cepheid> I'm gonna go wait for my dad downstairs.

15:51 <Schism> Welp.  The Simpsons is now 30 years old.

15:51 <Schism> Also, no, you'd be an asshole if you DIDN'T call back and confirm the details.

15:52 <Schism> MISSING the appointment because of something like that would make you an asshole.  As it is, you're just as much of an idiot as I am.

15:59 <Cepheid> I am unable to get back in contact.  So I went by one office to eliminate it.  Unfortunately it was not the correct office.  This is turning into a stressful, frustrating comedy of errors.

16:05 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Makenshi: Rarity Music: Koa - To The Nines (PegasYs Remix) [Glitch Hop] [ http://tinyurl.com/szyz8dx ]

16:11 * Schism carefully lines up a pun strike.

16:23 <Schism> Well.  This... is a thing.  https://twitter.com/majorbean_/status/1206080562018095104

16:24 <Cepheid> Heh.  Effin finally.  Made it to office.

16:28 <Cepheid> Also I figured out I wasn't going insane with what I was seeing in the ARM code.  The bootloader really was doing a reverse form of LZ77 decompression.

16:28 <Cepheid> Most decompression usually works forward.  For whatevever reason? Nintendo works backwards.

16:29 <Cepheid> Probably more obfuscation.

16:32 <Schism> You'll appreciate this story, Cepheid.  https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/kitchener-waterloo/payment-problems-ion-lrt-fare-machines-1.5398844

16:32 <Schism> "Oh," says the ENTIRE METROPLEX, "we hadn't NOTICED that there are so many issues with the LRT, I'm glad you're reporting it SIX MONTHS AFTER LAUNCH."

16:33 <Cepheid> ...  It took them six months to acknowledge the problems?  Took less than three months here.

16:33 <Schism> Launched around Canada Day, so... yup.  

16:35 <Schism> I like their excuses.  "Oh, it's because of the cold weather, the rain, and the snow."  NO, you imbeciles, this has been ongoing since the start.

16:45 <Cepheid> Any reports of rail breaks, trains breaking down inexplicably, or heavens forbid, doors that are so fragile that pushing against them slightly results in a locked-down train?

16:47 <Schism> The lattermost, -no-, but... otherwise...

16:57 <Cepheid> Doc won't do surgery or biopsy.  Tells me that they are pointless.  Do have an incredible amount of post-nasal drip and a severe-looking sinus infection, though.  More antibiotics! o3o

16:58 <Schism> At this point I'm convinced that to fix things for good, they'd have to get an excavation team to dig up half your face.

16:58 <Cepheid> Anyway yeah.  There has been a problem with people pushing open closing doors.  It breaks the servos, mis-aligns the door, and results in the train refusing to move because the sensors say the door is open.

16:59 * Schism nods. "I think we MIGHT have seen something like that. The GRT staff have advised people, "Please. press the button ONCE when it turns green, it'll blink red, and then wait for the doors to open."

16:59 <Cepheid> Like.  It locks up the train for an hour.

16:59 <Cepheid> This is people boarding at the last minute in our case.

17:00 <Cepheid> That is, people running up to closing doors and then ripping them open.

17:01 <Cepheid> In any case the trains have survived the frigid weather thhs far.   No panels falling off like during the last Winter.

17:05 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Fanfiction: The Bonding Stone [ http://tinyurl.com/rptufcc ]

17:06 <Cepheid> One of them statements I wish I was joking about.  First Winter the trains themselves had to deal with, the heating system failed to work, and panels were falling off.

17:11 <Cepheid> https://twitter.com/GA_SooT/status/1125109474945978368?s=19

17:14 <Cepheid> Hum lets see how to get home from here..

17:16 <Cepheid> 85 or 55 to the LRT.  Then catch train, then bus home.

17:22 <Cepheid> Oh gods the Cymbalta withdrawals are hitting me.

17:29 <Cepheid> Hum.  Interesting way of figuring out where the compressed regions are.  Will have to keep that in mind.

17:34 <Cepheid> Apparently the compressed regions are prefixed and suffixed by a 4-byte word.  0xDEC00621.

17:35 <Cepheid> And prior to this there is a header for the file.

17:41 <Cepheid> So I asked why all the train stations are open to the elements.

17:42 <Cepheid> Apparently, it is to prevent loitering.

17:42 <Cepheid> While a reasonable reason, they didn't seem to consider that it ca  get to be -30C, and have a windchill on top of that.

17:42 <Cepheid> They have overhead heating, but uh...

17:46 <Cepheid> https://twitter.com/VickerySec/status/1206712118705176577?s=19 Schism.

18:05 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: All the Pony Apologies in Season 2 [ http://tinyurl.com/yx3w3dyy ]

18:41 <Schism> Cepheid: Yuuuuuup.

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18:53 <Schism> Cepheid: The reason why train stations are open to the elements is -specifically- to screw over the homeless.

18:53 <Schism> It's nice that they're owning up to it, but that's no excuse.

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19:05 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Comic: Trixie and Starlight / Cold Outside / A(pple)ffection! 111 [ http://tinyurl.com/ut4a8lg ]

19:06 * Cepheid arrives at home.

19:06 <Schism> On consideration, "Rock of Aegis" would be a fine title for a sci-fi book.

19:18 <ADragonDreaming> https://imgur.com/gallery/DvIaulf

19:18 <ADragonDreaming> hOnK

19:25 <Cepheid> Heh.

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19:34 <Cepheid> Right, time for me to lay down.

19:37 <LibrarianofHope> honk

19:37 <LibrarianofHope> peace was never an option

19:37 <LibrarianofHope> only honl

19:37 <LibrarianofHope> honk

19:49 <Lumindia> honk

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20:16 * Schism provides pones with some käsekuchen. With cherries.

20:21 <LibrarianofHope> im hungry

20:22 * LibrarianofHope noms schism

20:22 * Schism is not food. Just foodling.

20:25 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Drawfriend Stuff (Pony Art Gallery) #3193 [ http://tinyurl.com/wve8eh2 ]

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20:26 *** ChanServ sets mode: +qo Ali Ali

20:31 * LibrarianofHope noms ali

20:32 * Ali squeaks

20:32 <Schism> Ali is a much better nomming target.

20:32 <LibrarianofHope> tastes cute

20:32 * Ali is not cute

20:36 * Ali noms Schism for that comment

20:37 * Schism chirps.

20:38 <LibrarianofHope> chirp?

20:38 <LibrarianofHope> yay

20:40 <Schism> As bugs do.  o3o;

20:44 <LibrarianofHope> they do?

20:44 <LibrarianofHope> thats a chirp?

20:44 <LibrarianofHope> im stupid fatigued, im slow today

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22:28 * PrincessRainbows boops Ali's horn till it glows. Such an adorable pony

22:28 * Ali whines loudly at PrincessRainbows

22:29 * PrincessRainbows patpats the pretty pony

22:38 * Ali ish not pretty but leans into pets

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22:46 <Pony|66587> Whoops

23:05 <Finwe> o3o

23:05 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Battle Gem Ponies General News Update for 2019 [ http://tinyurl.com/uc65bca ]

23:05 <Finwe> Good evening, everypony.

23:05 <Finwe> Mlles Ali, PrincessRainbows and Surreal_Nightmares; Messrs Schism, Starlight_Glimmer, LibrarianofHope, Lumindia and Cepheid.

23:05 * Finwe doffs his hat.

23:05 * Lumindia squeaks

23:05 * Lumindia falls over

23:06 * Schism provides Lumindia with a Snort, about... a minute ago.

23:06 * Finwe noms on Ali's tail.

23:06 * Ali squeaks at Finwe

23:07 <Finwe> There seems to be a lot of squeaking going on in these parts.

23:08 * Finwe oils the squeaky ponies.

23:08 <Finwe> That should do it.

23:08 * Ali is still squeaky

23:10 * Finwe ruffles an Ali.

23:11 * Ali leans into ruffles

23:33 <Schism> Cepheid: WELP, HERE WE GO AGAIN.  Gods alive.  https://twitter.com/i/events/1207031724888084482  

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23:40 <PinkieShy> Happy Tuesday my dudes..

23:40 <PinkieShy> 8 days until Christmas!!! :D

23:47 <Schism> Gave my mom a copy of Good Omens today.  I've already given her the series on a thumb drive, I just followed that up by giving her the book.  In a very nice, mass market paperback, as opposed to the pulp.

23:48 <Schism> That's the Christmas present.  I'm sure she's going to love it.  X3

23:52 <Finwe> Good Omens is the book written by late Sir Terry Pratchett and Neil Gaiman, one chapter at a time, taking turns, innit?

23:52 <Finwe> Where the Antichrist gets educated as an English schoolboy.

23:53 <LibrarianofHope> yep

23:53 <LibrarianofHope> a masterpiece

23:53 <Finwe> Indeed.

23:54 <LibrarianofHope> owo

23:54 <LibrarianofHope> i wonder how my books will be recieved in a couple of years time

23:54 <Finwe> "We have taken him to the Fields of Harmageddon and he says that he wants some ice cream."

23:54 <Finwe> Or however it was. o3o

23:55 <LibrarianofHope> meggido, its aout right all the rest

23:55 <Finwe> Ah, Meggido, of course.

23:56 <LibrarianofHope> i got 109 instagram followers, do i get free stuff now

23:56 <LibrarianofHope> am i an influencer?

23:56 <LibrarianofHope> is ali cute?

23:56 <Finwe> * Ali ish not cute!