Log archive of EquestriaDaily for Tuesday, 2020-01-21

00:06 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Poll Results: What do you love most about Luna? [ http://tinyurl.com/uquvqm9 ]

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00:49 <Heartbreak> !mbox list

00:50 <Heartbreak> Starlight_Glimmer: Why are you talking about socks?

00:50 <Heartbreak> Cause unless you're wearing them...

00:50 <Heartbreak> And wearing them -elsewhere-, I don't care.

00:59 <Schism> Huh, there's Paolumu level 3.

01:02 <Schism> Hm.  Hunt low-rank Pukei-Pukei, Rathalos, and Rathian within 50 minutes.

01:03 <Schism> That's plausible.

01:06 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Hasbro's Amazon Store Goes All-In on Pony Life  [ http://tinyurl.com/wrmtpdq ]

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01:24 <Schism> Ow.

01:24 <Schism> Didn't die, but the Power Couple are a joy to fight.

01:38 <Schism> There.  Screw -you-, poison triad.

01:39 <Schism> Rewards were rather nice for that one, though.

01:44 * Starlight_Glimmer turns foal size and sleepily lays down on Heartbreak's back

01:45 <Schism> Hm.  Never enough parashrooms.

01:46 * Schism uses a lucky voucher on Horned Tyrant Below the Sands.

01:48 * DashedRainbows shivers and curls up under somepony to warm up

01:50 <Schism> Arena fight, hmmmm.

02:06 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Nightly Discussion #2046 [ http://tinyurl.com/ryqqtv2 ]

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02:12 <Schism> Ready to fight Zorah Magdalos for real for the second time.  <<  Anyone with MHPC want to join?

02:15 <Schism> MHW PC, that is to say.

02:20 <Schism> Oh well, let's give this one a try.

02:49 <Schism> Hm.  Straightforward.

02:49 <Schism> Meanwhile... Magda Ungulae.  egh.

02:49 <Cepheid> It is the Jhen Mohran of MHWorld, yeah.

02:50 <Schism> Defense bonus is nice, but until I get some gems it won't override my current set.  Still, I've caught up to the first tier of high-rank Alpha armour.

02:51 <Schism> Er, weaponry.

02:51 <Cepheid> Nice.

02:51 <Schism> Rathalos' equipment is high enough in fire resist that I suspect I'm going to be using it like mad.

02:51 <Cepheid> Also, good morning.

02:51 <Stormspark> yes I have, I also accidentally got maple bacon once instead of regular bacon, and both made me want to puke lol

02:51 <Stormspark> I can't stand sweet mixed with meat

02:52 <Schism> Harrumph.

02:52 <Schism> Also hiya.  Good night.

02:52 <Schism> I'mma be sleeping soon.  Gotta get outta here by 7 AM on weekdays.

02:52 * DashedRainbows runs around panting and barking at the pones

02:53 <Schism> Rathalos' "Critical Power" ability seems kind of broken if you have a high affinity weapon.  o3o

02:54 <Schism> Sorry, Critical Element.

02:54 <Cepheid> Yep.

02:54 <Cepheid> Combine it with a HH's Affinity Up melody and it gets even more fun.

02:54 <Schism> And then there's Diablos' 'Bludgeoner', which... um...

02:56 <Cepheid> I tend to rely on Slugger, myself.  Hunting horn is an impact weapon, and used against heads..

02:56 <Schism> Yeah, but bludgeoner requires you let your weapon run out of sharpness, or hit them with an impact weapon or a bow in melee range.

02:56 <Schism> Which, eh.

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02:57 * Schism looks at the Legiana Blessing. Goes... 'bleh.'

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02:58 <Schism> Hm.  Thunder resist and windproof makes a fair case for the Ingot armour.

02:58 <Schism> Except for the lack of defense compared to what I can get now.

02:59 <Schism> Also, Cepheid: the 5* quest is nice and laid back, right up until I got Rathalos and Rathian tag-teaming me for as much poison as they could muster.  Oh, and eating my face when I tried to carve the Pukei-Pukei.

02:59 <Cepheid> High rank really opens up the armor, yes.

03:00 <Cepheid> Ah, poor Tizzy.  You look cold.

03:00 <Schism> Am I bad for wanting to collect and fully upgrade every set, even the armour?

03:00 <Schism> Er, even the leather?

03:02 <Schism> Also.  What should I use this Commendation on?  I already used one to upgrade my primary weapon.

03:03 <Cepheid> No idea.  But you won't find yourself suffering a shortage of them sooner or later.  You start to get them a lot. Later on.

03:04 <Schism> Good to know.  Alright, then.

03:04 <Schism> And... while I should probably upgrade my Felyne's weapon, I do really like a good bit of paralysis in the middle of a fight.  Jack, you keep that bug torch.

03:06 * Ali claims Cepheid's Tizzy to cuddle poor kitteh

03:08 <Cepheid> I got bloodwork I need to get done, and I'd like to get it done soon.  I think I'll spend my night in bed trying to get just a bit more sleep.  At the least, conserve energy.

03:08 <Schism> Cepheid: Screamer pods were part of this ship's delivery.  o3o

03:10 <Cepheid> Yeah I learned that the other day.  Still annoying that you have to rely on chance for them though.

03:11 <Schism> Or a bunch of Nolos, yeah.

03:12 <Schism> Okay, Power Couple proper...

03:13 <Schism> Wanna join me on this one?  It's classic.

03:15 <Schism> I can clear it on my own easy, of course.

03:16 <Schism> Ah well.  I'll take care of these two jokers.

03:17 <Schism> Probably capture them both, for gits and shiggles.

03:17 <Cepheid> Ah, sorry.  Was AFK.

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03:40 <Schism> Okay, capture was not a possibility.  @_@

03:41 <Schism> Lot of rewards, tho.

03:41 <Schism> Hah.  Level 9.99 Vigorwisp Spray.

03:42 <Cepheid> Heh.

03:43 <Cepheid> I tend to stick with Plunderblade myself.  Money tends to become a bit scarce later on.

03:43 <Schism> I imagine.

03:44 <Cepheid> Upgrades get freakishly expensiver.  Top-tier high-rank weapons are 32000.  Upgrades to max out armor can be upwards of 20,000+ per piece.

03:45 <Schism> Sheesh.

03:46 <Schism> After that one... oh, armory's got some new stuff.

03:46 <Schism> Bandit Mantle, hm?

03:47 <Schism> Oh, more zeny.

03:47 <Schism> Basically, Plundersword as a mantle.

03:47 <Cepheid> Basically plunderblade for the player.  Wear it, whack monster, gold drops.

03:50 <Schism> You wanna join me in that silly little 5* poison quest real quick?  I'll drop a daily venture on it.

03:50 <Schism> I'm interested in trying it again in circumstances that won't cause me to completely miss carving the Pukei-Pukei.

03:51 <Cepheid> Sure.

03:51 <Cepheid> Gimme 2-3 minutes.

03:51 <Schism> Sure.  Let's see if you can join this time, with EaMQKPc3K+ki .

03:53 <Cepheid> The vouchers by the way only affect you, not other players.

03:53 <Schism> oh, I was thinking that worked for everyone, but I'm thinking of -food- vouchers.

03:54 <Schism> Which I should probably stock up on too.

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04:12 <Cepheid> Huh.

04:12 <Cepheid> I get rewards for helping low-level hunters.

04:12 <Schism> Oh nice!

04:13 <Schism> I got two plates.

04:13 <Schism> I think that worked out well for the both of us.

04:13 <Cepheid> Yerp.

04:14 <Cepheid> Need me for more hunts?

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04:14 <Schism> Na, I think it's sleepytime for Schisms.

04:14 <Schism> Thanks for coming along on this one.

04:15 <Cepheid> No prob.

04:15 <Cepheid> Anyways, I'm gonna lay down too.  Put a sweater on, maybe.

04:15 <Schism> Just gonna check what those Rath Plates might do for me.  Probably not much.

04:15 <Schism> Fire weapons, pssh.

04:16 <Cepheid> Don't discredit elemental weapons.

04:16 <Schism> I'm not discrediting elemental weapons.

04:16 <Schism> I'm discrediting fire ones.

04:17 <Cepheid> Why?  Already have em?

04:17 <Schism> How many enemies in MHW are weak to fire?

04:19 * Cepheid raises a hoof and opens his mouth to answer, but stops and thinks for a moment. "... You win this round."

04:21 <Schism> I mean, there's the ice jerk over in the Coral zone, but ... yeah.  Not much going on there.  Fire -armour-, meanwhile, is pretty awesome.

04:22 <Schism> I could do the low level Rathalos set.  Are earlier sets used in the production of later armour?

04:22 <Cepheid> No.

04:23 <Schism> I should probably keep my mats for alpha and beta sets, then.

04:23 <Cepheid> Higher-rank armors use higher rank materials.  Sometimes with a lower rank bit here and there.

04:23 <Schism> Okay, let me rephrase.  I should save my /plates/ for higher rank armour.

04:25 <Cepheid> Or hold onto them in general.

04:25 <Cepheid> They are rare enough as is.

04:25 <Schism> And I should stop theorycrafting and get some sleep so I can deal with work in the morning, which will be hilarious again.

04:25 <Schism> Yup.

04:26 <Cepheid> Spitfire is a snugglebug tonight.

04:27 * Schism pastes a small sticky note on Cepheid's forehead. It reads, 'Cats are weird.'

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04:27 <Cepheid> Must want to sap the warmth from me

04:27 <Cepheid> It is cold in the house tonight.

04:27 <Cepheid> Feel like I should grab Tizzy for snuggles and blankets.

04:28 * Golden 's phone has been yelling Smite at him all day.

04:31 <Cepheid> Maybe you need to smite some mites.

04:31 <Cepheid> Wow, a rhyme *and* an anagram.

04:32 <Golden> If you watched a "crap guide to DnD Paladin" episode you'd know what smite I'm using

04:32 <Cepheid> Heh.

04:33 <Golden> And it's for my notifications

04:33 <Cepheid> JoCat makes a cameo in the NCH MHWorld animations.

04:34 <Golden> I know

04:34 <Golden> Heck I am in the same camp of Sword and Shield is the best weapon

04:34 <Cepheid> Heh.

04:34 <Schism> I just gravitated to the easiest weapon in the game.

04:35 <Schism> I'll probably poke at hammer or greatsword soon, or bow and arrow.

04:35 <Cepheid> I gravitated to the least-used.

04:35 <Schism> I really should figure out how to HH.

04:36 <Golden> I have ran into  some great HH hunters on PS4

04:36 <Schism> It's not like I don't have 20,000 2* quests I can try.

04:36 <Cepheid> I'm pretty sure I'm the sole reason Hunting Horn has a non-zero usage percentage according to the First Wyverian.

04:37 <Cepheid> !link https://youtu.be/Ch5vWBPCrl0

04:37 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.

04:37 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about A Crap Guide to D\\u0026D [5th Edition] - Paladin

04:39 <Cepheid> I have that headpiece now.

04:42 <Cepheid> In fact I think I was wearing it?  I have head armor display off to blind monsters with my magnificently bald head.  That should be usable for one free flash bomb

04:44 <Cepheid> !link https://youtu.be/tV7X76FKkeI

04:44 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.

04:44 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about A Crap Guide to D\\u0026D [5th Edition] - Artificer

05:00 <Cepheid> !link https://youtu.be/LJkpkQ1eAWY this is an amazing game.  I need to get people together to play it.

05:00 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.

05:00 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about J-Overly Edited SCP: Secret Laboratory - Halloween Special

05:01 * DashedRainbows settles on nipping at Ali's hooves before bed

05:10 * DashedRainbows also sniffs her for sugar cubes

06:03 * DashedRainbows grabs her pacifier and plushie then curls up in the corner

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06:43 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ConfusionRift

06:44 <ConfusionRift> Hello everypony.

06:48 <Cepheid> Morning.

06:52 <ConfusionRift> "Well done! You destroyed the tech group in your area. Good job." | I didn't do anything!

06:54 <Cepheid> Hmm?

06:56 <ConfusionRift> I just loaded my savefile in Terratech, and like 5 seconds later, I finished a gangland mission. I have not opened fire yet!

06:56 <Cepheid> Heh.

06:59 <Cepheid> I think the cold and the sleeping issues of last week are catching up to me.  I don't feel compelled to do much of anything today.  No gaming, no coding.  Just lazing.  Wondering in fact it is the reduction in vyvanse.  Going from 70 to 30mg is gonna affect me.

07:00 <Cepheid> One way to find out.  I was given twice as much supply so I could adjust it as needed.

07:01 <Cepheid> Only downside to that is the cost, really.

07:02 <Cepheid> $250 for a month and a half supply.

07:02 <ConfusionRift> Ouch!

07:04 <Cepheid> It is also considered a narcotic.

07:04 <Cepheid> Which is shocking as one would assume such a drastic drop in dose would have side effects if it were a narcotic.

07:10 <ConfusionRift> Well, technically, it is a narcotic. It is classified as a stimulant, and one that affects one's neurotransmitters (natural chemicals in one's brain). It could be abused for sure.

07:10 <Cepheid> NHS director calls loot boxes an entry into gambling.  No ****, Sherlock.

07:12 <Cepheid> True.  That said it has the opposite effect of addiction for me.

07:12 <ConfusionRift> What? An object that uses one's own physical cash in order for someone to earn something by complete luck? Crazy, I say!

07:12 <ConfusionRift> Still, one has to watch for it.

07:13 <Golden> I am still hoping they get regulated.

07:14 <Cepheid> Yes, I can function, write code, work and such.  But at what cost?  I forget to eat.  I can't relax.  I get snippety at people or animals that interfere with my work.  I try to do anything other than work, I get anxious, jittery, and try to get through what I am doing as fast as possible.  I hyperventilate, I have panic attacks.

07:14 <Golden> ....

07:14 <Cepheid> It is a mix of good and bad.  The reason I asked for the drop in dosage was so that I could control it.  Manipulate it.

07:14 <Cepheid> I'm talking of my drugs Golden.

07:15 <Cepheid> Two conversations intertwined

07:15 <Cepheid> Long story short, when at a high enough dose, I am somehow aware of what it is doing to me.

07:15 <Cepheid> Unlike folks who get addicted and keep going higher and higher.

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07:16 * ConfusionRift scratches his head.

07:16 <Golden> Ah alright. In all honesty I prefer dlc, and expansions over. "Hurdur what me gonna get?!" Loot boxes are scummy at best, and predatory at worst.

07:17 <ConfusionRift> I really hate the whole loot box idea.

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07:17 <ConfusionRift> If I put money down, it's for something I know I'm gonna get. Not something I might get, if I'm lucky.

07:17 *** Ali is now known as Pony_81421

07:17 <ConfusionRift> With my absolute garbage of a luck, well, you get the idea.

07:18 <Cepheid> I think there is two reasons for why I am not affected in an addiction manner.  One, I have dealt with addiction before.  I became addicted to an opiate by mistake.  I was taking excessively large doses of tylenol with codeine.

07:18 <Cepheid> Two, the negative connotation of the word "narcotic"

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07:19 *** ChanServ sets mode: +qo Ali Ali

07:19 <Cepheid> Especially in recent years thanks to oxycontin or however it is spelled.  Basically, my mind is preoccupied with watching for negative side effects.

07:20 <Golden> Yeah. I do hope they fully get regulated for they are straight up gambling. As soon as one Domino tips the rest falls. Then the Esrb if they continue to slap E on anything that comtains a loot box could be fined for it.

07:24 *** Surreal_Nightmares is now known as Filly_Nightmares

07:24 * Filly_Nightmares skreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

07:24 * Filly_Nightmares purrs and climbs onto Golden

07:24 <Cepheid> It is effectively a gateway to gambling.  Money in return for a random result, which may not be worth the money you paid.  And teaching kids that this kind of stuff is okay is...  Yeah.  There is one other horrifying detail about it all to boot.

07:25 * Golden sighs petting Filly_Nightmares

07:25 <ConfusionRift> Cepheid: Which is the smart thing to do, being aware of the problems and noting for any negative effects. The addiction thing is mostly people who think that to fix the issue is by either putting more on it, or they think the small starting ride would be prolonged if they do more.

07:26 <Cepheid> It is targeted at children.  Because children don't have an understanding of finances.  All they know is they need money to buy it, and mommy and daddy have these small plastic cards they use to give money to people.

07:26 * Filly_Nightmares tugs on Golden ears

07:26 <ConfusionRift> But here's the thing...

07:26 <Golden> Yes Filly_Nightmares ?

07:26 <ConfusionRift> Parents can control all of that.

07:26 <Cepheid> There have been horror stories in the past of kids using Google or Apple pay to buy these DLCs and boxes.

07:26 <Cepheid> Or stea

07:27 <Cepheid> Stealing credit/debit cards.

07:27 * Filly_Nightmares eees at Golden and rolls onto her back

07:27 <ConfusionRift> Definitely stealing as well. I know for a fact most of the people stealing codes and game cards are kids.

07:27 <Golden> Parents can't control if their kids steal. Only contact the back in time, and punish the kids.

07:27 <Cepheid> And yes, rifty, I am aware of that.  Publishers are hedging on the fact that parents implicitly trust their kids.  Until it is too late.

07:28 * Golden chuckles at the filly, and pets her tummy.

07:29 <ConfusionRift> Golden: They can, and they should. Problem is, what Cepheid just said and the fact that many parents just don't wanna deal with it.

07:30 <Cepheid> No one wants to sit on the line for hours arguing with their credit card companies about chargebacks.

07:30 <Cepheid> Especially since such companies make it excrutiatingly hard to do so when the cards was legitimately used.

07:30 <ConfusionRift> Theeeere's another problem.

07:30 <ConfusionRift> That.

07:30 <Cepheid> And while your kid stealing the card may not be "legitimate", there is no way for the cards companies to verify that you, the parent, didn't make those transactions, or authorize them.

07:30 <Golden> If parents don't want to deal with raising a child, and instill what is good/bad then they don't deserve to even have kids in the first place!

07:31 <Cepheid> You do realize a good portion of children aren't a choice, right?

07:31 <Cepheid> My parents have given up asking me or my sister for children, but I regularly hear complaints from people about how their parents are *DEMANDING* with aggression, that they give them grandchildren.

07:31 <Golden> Of course I do. This topic just gets me heated to the point I speak before I think...

07:32 * ConfusionRift pats Golden.

07:32 <Cepheid> It's fine.  It happens.

07:32 <Cepheid> I do it myself.

07:32 <ConfusionRift> Same here.

07:32 <Cepheid> I made my decision long ago about children.  I'm still trying to make it impossible for me to have children, but doctors are being a ***** about it.

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07:37 <AppleDash> > No one wants to sit on the line for hours arguing with their credit card companies about chargebacks.

07:38 <AppleDash> Where is that a thing? The one time I have had to deal with a chargeback, the entire process was done via web/email

07:38 <ConfusionRift> I have to call my bank in order to do anything.

07:40 <ConfusionRift> ESPECIALLY if it's soemthing like a chargeback.

07:40 <Cepheid> It depends on where you are, and the company involved, AppleDash.

07:40 <ConfusionRift> ^

07:41 <Cepheid> In some countries, it's particularly drawn out because the companies will do everything to figure out whether or not you violated some rule or regulation in their license agreements that allow them to NOT LOSE MONEY.

07:41 * Cepheid installs Wireshark.

07:42 <Cepheid> In the last month or so, I was a tad worried about a purchase I made.

07:42 <Cepheid> I bought a wireless adapter for my PC in an attempt to resolve the wireless dilemma, and while it worked for downloads and such, it sucked for gaming.

07:43 <Cepheid> I eventually gave up on it.  That said, I purchased it without concern for Linux usage, because my PC is purely Windows for gaming reasons.

07:43 *** Quits: Reia (Reia_Hope@TheCowPony) (Quit: Bye)

07:43 <Cepheid> Yeah, well, I kinda plugged it into my laptop, didn't think about the concern over whether it'd work or not under Linux, looked at the wireless settings, and it worked fine.  It only just dawned on me 3 minutes ago that it worked fine under Linux.

07:44 <Cepheid> I wonder what driver it uses, then.

07:46 <Cepheid> Apparently it's a MediaTek device rebranded as NetGear.

07:47 <Cepheid> Apparently requires non-free firmware, but uh..

07:48 <Cepheid> Yeah, I see no firmware loading for it.

07:49 <Cepheid> Ah, I do have it on my laptop.  Okay then.

07:50 <Cepheid> Still, wasn't expecting it to just work out of the box like that.  USB3.0 802.11ac devices seem hard to find.

07:50 <Cepheid> At least, ones supported by Linux in general.  Linux wireless database is useless for finding them.

07:51 * Cepheid goes to test performance against the internal Intel adapter.

07:53 <Cepheid> https://www.speedtest.net/result/8965611995.png For internet, this is it's performance.

07:53 <Cepheid> Router's right across from me.  Like, 10 feet away.

07:54 <Cepheid> Next up, netgear adapter.

07:54 <Cepheid> Actually slightly worse.  Not sure if it's because it's USB 3.0 vs PCIe, or..

07:55 <Cepheid> https://www.speedtest.net/result/8965616226.png

07:56 <Cepheid> Probably the antenna.

07:56 <Cepheid> I believe the internal card has two antenna, compared to the one in this dongle.

08:06 <Cepheid> BRB.  Need to log out for something.

08:09 <ConfusionRift> Okaday.

08:17 * Cepheid is back.

08:28 * Cepheid uses his dongle in monitor mode to figure out how his lightbulbs are coerced into connecting to a given network.

08:29 <Cepheid> You didn't misunderstand.  Wireless lights.

08:32 <Cepheid> Basically, I want to get these lights to connect to the network without having to use The Cloud with them.

08:32 <Cepheid> Unfortunately, LIFX doesn't reveal it's protocol for commanding devices to connect to a network.

08:32 <Cepheid> Everything else?  Sure.

08:32 <Cepheid> But connecting devices?  Nah.

08:37 <Cepheid> Looks like, hmm...  Adapter connects, then repeatedly sends out a SYN packet, waiting for a RST + ACK packet.  Then sends four unknown, proprietary packets.  Probably to reset the device settings.

08:38 <Cepheid> That said, it's uncompressed, unencrypted data.  And it probably follows their publically-advertised protocol, so let's see if it matches anything.

08:39 <Cepheid> Yep.

08:46 <Cepheid> Interesting.  Message type 0x28, no such message is specified in their API.

08:47 <Cepheid> Four packets of message type 0x28 are sent..

08:53 <Cepheid> Make that 13.  Apparently it keeps retrying until some condition is met.  Then it stops, and sends a message of some undocumented type.

08:55 <Cepheid> Then it does a typical TCP/IP connection, then uses TLS 1.2 to encrypt the channel..

08:56 <Cepheid> Bulb sends it's certificate.  Then sends the public key.  Aaaand there's where I hit a wall.

08:57 <Cepheid> The rest is encrypted.

09:03 <Cepheid> I'd need the key used by the LIFX app to access the relevant data.  Which can *PROBABLY* be done through rooting a device.

09:09 *** Quits: PinkieShy (coolm@Pony-ck81je.67-212-45-net.sccoast.net) (Connection closed)

09:11 <Cepheid> At this point I'm surprised this tablet still works.

09:11 <Cepheid> Damned thing has a problem with the video.  To the point where it's useful only as a reading device, and maybe an ARM platform for me to develop on.

09:12 <Cepheid> Basically, if the power being provided to the display is low enough, it starts flickering.  And this power seems to correspond with brightness.

09:12 <Cepheid> So, at lower brightnesses, it flickers like mad.  Charging's also busted, and slow as molasses.  Probably a fried resistor or cap somewhere.

09:14 <ConfusionRift> Yeah, might need a new charger or something fried in between.

09:18 <Cepheid> Charger isn't it.

09:18 <Cepheid> It's something in the device itself.

09:18 <Cepheid> Meanwhile, hello there certificates.

09:29 <Cepheid> Of course the keys have a password on them.  Time to root through the source code of the app.

09:38 <Cepheid> And now I got the decompiled code to work with.  *Venturing into dangerous territory, but needed for what he wants to do.*

09:39 * ConfusionRift sits the tech, waiting on the miner to finish... then looks at the sky. "Hmm, I wonder."

09:42 <Cepheid> So all LIFX devices have a static section in the MAC Address.

09:42 <Cepheid> First 3 bytes are always d0:73:d5.  And simple analysis of my capture verifies this.

09:46 <Cepheid> Ahahaha, here we are, all the unknown message types. :P

09:47 <Cepheid> Message 0x28 is... DEVICE_STATE_FACTORY_TEST_MODE.  Guess it's checking to see if the device is in factory test mode.

09:48 <Cepheid> Meanwhile, 0x60 is... LIGHT_GET_RAIL_VOLTAGE.

09:49 <Cepheid> SO, it checks to see if the device is in factory test mode, then when it's finally happy it isn't, it gets the rail voltage.  Then sends some public LAN API requests to get firmware version and device version.

09:50 <Cepheid> Somewhere in this code is a constant that is used as the password for all the PEM files that are part of the LIFX tool.

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09:51 <Cepheid> ...

09:51 <Cepheid> Oh... my gods.

09:53 <Cepheid> Hum, okay, so that didn't work.

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09:54 * DashedRainbows stretches and sits on ConfusionRift, yay, pony ride!

09:57 <Cepheid> This is how good I've gotten at programming.  I can read a language without actually knowing it, and infer it's functionality.

09:59 * ConfusionRift runs around with DashedRainbows on his back. :P

10:00 * DashedRainbows feeds him an apple. Good horsey

10:02 * DashedRainbows looks up at ConfusionRift and makes grabby hooves at him.

10:04 * ConfusionRift grabs and pets DashedRainbows. :P

10:05 * DashedRainbows is good filly, yay!

10:10 * DashedRainbows is also sleepy filly thus curls up under ConfusionRift with her blankie and pacifier to sleep

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10:18 <Cepheid> It's weird how these things work.

10:19 <Cepheid> Basically, in their default setup, they broadcast an unsecured AP.  Given they're not connected to the local WLAN, this is fine.

10:19 <Cepheid> You can connect to it.  Has no password, etc.

10:19 <Cepheid> You can talk to the device after that point, send commands and the like.

10:19 <Cepheid> That's the only way to handle local, non-cloud playing around with the light.

10:20 <Cepheid> Of course, this presents a problem.  It takes up a wifi connection on client device connected to the light bulb.

10:20 <Cepheid> So for all intents and purposes, it's useless.

10:20 <Cepheid> What needs to be done is that the light has to be told to connect to an existing wifi network.  However, *THAT* is done behind encryption.  TLS 1.2.

10:21 * Ali no comprendo

10:22 <Cepheid> Basically:  The light bulb is a smart bulb, and I have to tell it to connect to a wireless router.

10:22 <Cepheid> The only way to do this is through the LIFX app, which automatically binds the light bulb to the cloud account I have for them.

10:22 <Cepheid> I don't WANT this.

10:22 * Ali shrugs, passes out for sleepies

10:22 <Cepheid> I want it to connect, and only accept local commands.

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10:23 <Cepheid> I suppose I can connect them to the network, disconnect power from the bulbs, then remove the bulbs from my cloud account, followed by re-powering the bulbs.

10:26 <Cepheid> **** off, sinus headache.  I took my treatment for you.

10:33 <Cepheid> That seemed to do the trick.  Just turning off the lights them removing them from the cloud.

10:36 <Cepheid> You know, I wonder if it'll accept the command, unencrypted.  Bad idea, 'cause snooping and all that, but..

10:45 <Cepheid> In other news, since cleaning my humidifier, it hasn't worked right.

11:06 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Morning Discussion #1819 [ http://tinyurl.com/ulu24vo ]

11:10 * Cepheid checks to see when the lab opens.

11:11 <Cepheid> Lesse... Monday to Friday, 7:30 AM.

11:11 <Cepheid> I'll have my dad drop me off, since he leaves at around 7:15 AM anyways.

11:11 <Lumindia_> y'all are lovely people

11:11 <Lumindia_> <3

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11:14 * Finwe hats on Lumindia_.

11:42 * Cepheid hmms.

11:58 <Cepheid> Huzzah.  I'm unsteady.

12:01 * ConfusionRift flops.

12:02 <Cepheid> Heading to bed, Rifty?

12:03 <ConfusionRift> Not yet. Just kinda thinking about stuff.

12:04 <ConfusionRift> Not exactly tired.

12:10 <ConfusionRift> I guess I'm sorta unsteady as well, with how things are going.

12:13 <Cepheid> I meant unsteady in that I am shaking.  I feel like I'm in my overdrive mode.

12:13 <ConfusionRift> Oooh. Not good.

12:16 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: 3D Pony Art Gallery #77 [ http://tinyurl.com/vyhwqbo ]

12:20 <Cepheid> That said I am mentally stable.  Bit moody because headaches, but I feel...  Productive.  Despite not being home now.

12:21 <Lumindia_> Anyone here from Llanfair­pwllgwyngyll­gogery­chwyrn­drobwll­llan­tysilio­gogo­goch ?

12:22 <Cepheid> Probably Finwe.

12:22 * ConfusionRift calls an ambulance!

12:22 <Lumindia_> that's an actual location in Wales

12:22 * Cepheid waits to get his vital fluids stolen from him.

12:22 <Lumindia_> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Llanfairpwllgwyngyll

12:22 <ConfusionRift> Somepony not doing well! ...oh.

12:25 <Cepheid> When I get home, after I do my cleaning, I'm gonna do some fun programming.  In particular, I'm gonna use my lego robotics kit to create a remote-controlled vehicle.  Then attach string to it.

12:36 <Cepheid> Well.  Depends on how tired I am.  I would like to stay awake though as best as possible.

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13:00 <Cepheid> Dinner.  Coffee and a breakfast wrap from timmies.

13:04 * ConfusionRift only has some pizza. Oh well.

13:04 <ConfusionRift> Not very good pizza as well. Need feeds though.

13:07 <Cepheid> Hum.  Rexall opens at 9 AM.  Fine, I'll wait another day, or ask the parents to pick up what I need on their way home.

13:08 <Cepheid> I like wireless headphones, I really do.  Especially bluetooth headphones.  What I don't like is how every pair of bluetooth or wireless headphones have built in equalizers that can't be turned off.

13:09 <Cepheid> Keeps adjusting the sound to maintain some semblance of perceived "balance" and it is jarring.

13:13 <ConfusionRift> Yeah. Probably also that "we're trying to protect your ears" thing too.

13:14 <Cepheid> Pretty much yeah.  Problem is, my ears are already as effed up as they can get from audio, so just...  Let me listen to music as intended.

13:16 <ConfusionRift> Also check that the OS is not allowing software to mess with the volume. It's a thing that kinda changes volume automatically by an application's needs. Problem with that is that it can just mess with the volume settings, and likely lowering it more than intended.

13:17 <Cepheid> Its the headphones.  I checked a while back, and the manual.

13:17 <Cepheid> You legitimately cannot turn it off either.

13:17 <Cepheid> That would require firmware hacking.

13:17 <ConfusionRift> Blarg.

13:18 <Cepheid> Seriously.  It's jarring at times.  You get a loud instrument, and the rest of the song just quiets down.  Then it fades back to normal.

13:18 <ConfusionRift> Argh, I think that's worse than volume changing. That sucks.

13:18 <Cepheid> Only way around it is to use a cable.

13:19 * ConfusionRift stabs the headphones with an audio cable.

13:19 <Cepheid> https://twitter.com/ins_step/status/1219428761302519808?s=19

13:20 <Cepheid> The reason I bought wireless is because of my idiot cat.

13:21 <Cepheid> Alongside chewing to get my attention, many new cables are made with some new type of rubber/plastic made from plant material.  It attracts animals and causes them to chew on it.

13:22 <ConfusionRift> Oh right. There's that issue.

13:23 <Cepheid> When I get home, quick vacuum of the upstairs, wash my bathroom countertop, then...  Code.  Game code.

13:28 <Cepheid> I gotta listen to music more often.  Lately I don't because headphones cause problems for me.  ...  And the reason I haven't listened to music lately is because I'm awake at night.  When everyone else is asleep.

13:32 <Cepheid> I am gonna try to stay awake as late as possible today.  This is gonna hurt.

13:35 <Cepheid> I'm gonna start setting an alarm for 8AM wake time.

13:38 <Cepheid> Least I can use speakers at home.

13:38 <Cepheid> Parents are gone, so...

13:38 <Cepheid> Headphones!  Stop doing that!

13:39 <Cepheid> Ruined 3R2's Sarasvati.  For much of the song, audio is of an average volume.  Then hits the quiet period and blam, loud-as-****.

13:41 <Cepheid> https://twitter.com/Mengo923/status/1219164903384190976?s=19  I am not a big fan of guns, and I am not even remotely sure how functional such a gun would be, but this does, in fact, look nice.

13:42 <Cepheid> Also...  Rifty, steel-sheet armor piercing and long range.  What would be the required attributes for such a gun?

13:43 <Cepheid> Assume high-tech fantasy and as such, no real limitations.

13:44 * Cepheid notices something on Factorio twitter. "Oh no."

13:44 * Cepheid goes into his cute pony-resistant bunker.

13:44 <ConfusionRift> Wait, I'm kinda lost with that question. :P

13:45 * Cepheid locks the door, activates numerous repellant defenses. Marshmallow guns and such.

13:46 <Cepheid> Mainly, what are the components of the gun define things like accuracy, speed and distance of a projectile fired from them?

13:46 <Cepheid> Like, I have no idea what a long barrel does, among other things.

13:47 <ConfusionRift> Hmm, that's a toughie. There are way too many variables to worry about. Hmm...

13:47 <Cepheid> Or, why bore grooves of a barrel are, to my understanding, spiral.

13:47 <Cepheid> Like, what does making a bullet rotate along its trajectory axis do?

13:48 <ConfusionRift> They are spirals because as the bullet (or projectile) is pushed forward, the spiral helps it spin. This spin helps the projectile reduce its air resistance, allowing it to remain in its trajectory further.

13:50 <ConfusionRift> In other words, it improves accuracy and somewhat distance.

13:51 <ConfusionRift> A projectile going dead straight out the barrel will make it more susceptible to changes.

13:52 <ConfusionRift> One can see these changes by checking a comparison between a smoothbore musket, and a rifled one.

13:52 <Cepheid> Ah.  Does the speed at which it spins matter at all?

13:56 <ConfusionRift> Yes. A slow spin can (as mentioned earlier) reduce accuracy and cause it to deviate more so. A really fast spin can cause real problems. From the bullet shredding inside the barrel, it pivoting before exiting, or flying out and just tumbling out the barrel.

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13:59 * Cepheid notes this down for later.

13:59 * Cepheid arrives home. Promptly sets up PC for playing loud music.

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14:00 <ConfusionRift> The thing about firearms is that variables depend a lot on the model in question, and its type also follow different norms.

14:01 <Cepheid> Ah.

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14:02 <Nedemai> :3

14:03 <ConfusionRift> For example, using a shotgun with birdshot or buckshot while using a rifled barrel is a stupid idea. The spiral would cause the clump of pellets (or ball bearings) to spin. Upon exit, they will scatter at a closer range than just firing it through a smooth bore.

14:04 <ConfusionRift> And yes, there are rifled barrels for shotguns, mainly for slugs.

14:05 <ConfusionRift> But that's some other beast for some other time. :P

14:05 * ConfusionRift knows how it goes, so he slows down a bit.

14:07 * Jackie gives Nedemai a cookie

14:08 * Cepheid thinks best how to solve this existing problem.

14:16 * Jackie finds CSound to be the most interesting sound language.

14:17 * Cepheid puts on Objection Funk

14:17 <Cepheid> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDMwDT6BhhE

14:17 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Objection Funk

14:18 * Cepheid throws his coffee cup at ConfusionRift. o3o;

14:19 * ConfusionRift is bunked with the cup, and falls over... then eats the cup. :P

14:20 <Cepheid> The video... at the point with that guy with the deep voice, the judge, next to Phoenix, who's sweating.  Is he an antagonist or something?

14:20 <Cepheid> I'm kinda wondering why Phoenix is sweating when he's next to him.

14:20 <Cepheid> It's like.. "I'm worried he's next to me."

14:21 * ConfusionRift shrugs. "I'm completely unfamiliar with the series."

14:21 <Cepheid> I should pick up the Ace Attorney trilogy for the Switch at some point.

14:21 <Cepheid> My mother would probably like it.

14:22 <Cepheid> Despite being born from farmer stock, my mother's ability to solve riddles and puzzles is beyond even my ability by far.

14:22 <Cepheid> I only mention the farmer thing because she insists that it somehow affected her education and such.

14:22 <Cepheid> But I'm pretty sure I got my problem solving skills from her.

14:23 <Cepheid> So she's indirectly, through genetics, probably responsible for why I'm so good at programming. :P

14:24 <Jackie> Cepheid is a farmboy?

14:26 <Cepheid> Officially?  No.

14:26 <Cepheid> But my mother was a pig farmer, my dad, he worked at a paper mill, when I was born.  There was no technical background in any of the family at the time.

14:27 <Jackie> Does the north have farms?

14:29 <Cepheid> ... Uh, yes?

14:29 <Cepheid> They're kind of required anywhere there are large communities, for food purposes.

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14:36 * ConfusionRift looks over...

14:37 <ConfusionRift> Yep... shoulda been asleeeep...

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14:37 <ConfusionRift> Laters guys!

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15:24 * Lumindia_ licks jackie

15:24 <Lumindia_> o wo

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16:33 * DashedRainbows stretches and runs around booping everypony

16:47 * Cepheid bleeds.

17:11 <Cepheid> ...

17:11 <Cepheid> Apparently another cause of delayed trains in Ottawa's new LRT, are wheels that are NO LONGER ROUND.

17:14 <Cepheid> tw

17:14 <Cepheid> ..

17:14 <Cepheid> Right.

17:14 <Cepheid> Keyboard's not attached to PC.

17:16 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Fan Comics: Anon's Pie Adventure #??? / Don't Play With Potions #3 / Revolution #1 / Stable Shorts #44 / Car Shopping [ http://tinyurl.com/u8jkvyy ]

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18:26 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: New Extended Preview for My Little Pony Comic #86 Released [ http://tinyurl.com/u44lhao ]

18:38 <Lumindia_> Yatta~!

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18:40 *** ChanServ sets mode: +qo Ali Ali

18:47 * Ali slaps Lumindia_ around a bit with a large salmon.

18:49 * Lumindia_ licks Ali

18:49 <Lumindia_> tastes like pony

18:49 <Lumindia_> who may or may not be cute

18:49 <Ali> I would lick back, but I just smacked you with a feesh so not gonna

18:50 <Lumindia_> ali ish cute

18:50 * Ali ish not!

18:50 <Lumindia_> you ish

18:50 <Lumindia_> :>

18:50 <Lumindia_> You cannot deny the truth

18:52 * Ali can do whatever she wants :P

18:52 * Ali sits on Lumindia_

18:52 * Lumindia_ squish

18:53 * Lumindia_ brushes Ali

18:54 * Ali does like brushies though, leans into them.

18:56 <Lumindia_> <3

18:56 * Lumindia_ snuggle

18:57 <Starlight_Glimmer> Being cute is like the best thing

18:57 <Lumindia_> Glim Glam is heckin' cute

18:57 * Lumindia_ pounce

18:57 <Starlight_Glimmer> You get away with doing all sorts of evil things :3

18:57 * Lumindia_ snuggle!

18:57 * Starlight_Glimmer snuggles Lumindia_

18:58 <Lumindia_> how is a glimgam?

18:58 <Lumindia_> glam*

18:59 * DashedRainbows licks Ali a lot, she does taste like small horse

18:59 * Ali squeaks loudly

19:00 * Lumindia_ licks GlimGlam as well

19:00 <Lumindia_> tastes like CUTE

19:03 * DashedRainbows boops Ali with an Ali doll holding a tiny hammer

19:03 <Starlight_Glimmer> Still doing some work from home at the moment

19:03 <Starlight_Glimmer> Home office is great

19:04 <Starlight_Glimmer> Had a quick nap an hour ago, because sleepy

19:04 <Starlight_Glimmer> I'm blaming that on Heartbreak

19:04 <Starlight_Glimmer> 3.5/5 as a bed :3

19:09 <Lumindia_> behold the power of Totino's pizza rolls!

19:09 <Lumindia_> *boops Ali with pizza rolls

19:16 * DashedRainbows flops on Starlight_Glimmer. yes, much more comfortable

19:50 * Ali noms on rolls

20:06 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Drawfriend Stuff (Pony Art Gallery) #3227 [ http://tinyurl.com/twhqqdv ]

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22:00 <Starlight_Glimmer> So ... who's going to put two shelves with me together this weekend? :3

22:06 * Ali pounces Starlight_Glimmer and nuzzles

22:06 * Starlight_Glimmer pulls the mare under her blankets

22:06 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Community Soapbox - The Calm Before the Storm [ http://tinyurl.com/qmm8x9n ]

22:19 <Starlight_Glimmer> Ali: How good are your pan cakes?

22:19 <Starlight_Glimmer> I want pan cakes for breakfast because reasons!

22:20 * Ali ponyshrugs

22:26 <Starlight_Glimmer> You're deliberately unhelpful, mam!

22:37 * Schism shrug.

22:37 * Schism provides Starlight_Glimmer with blini.

22:46 * Schism also provides Ali with some chicken, coleslaw, macaroni salad, potato salad, hot dog, garlic bun, and orange juice.

22:51 * Schism hums, and then also provides the Lumindia and the DashedRainbows wif garlic sausages.

22:55 <Schism> ... meanwhile, in Portland, people are now looking for ways to 'unvaccinate' their children.  I mean... uh...

23:03 * Ali noms on Schism

23:20 <Schism> Interesting.  Those running on Windows 10 (hiss) can use the following PowerShell command to prevent Potentially Unwanted Apps.  'Set-MpPreference -PUAProtection enable'  This is rather helpful for those relatives who will install 90,000 coupon apps and everything that comes with them.

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23:30 * Schism reads a story about how, a year ago, Microsoft fell victim to a Reply-All chain.

23:34 <Schism> Cepheid: https://twitter.com/mdoering/status/1218801445119512576

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23:46 * Ali runs win10 on Schism and yawns

23:47 * Schism immediately opens up a Windows 7 virtual box.

23:48 <Schism> This is rather a Canadian thing.  Trudeau went to Winnipeg, and rather than stopping at Tim Hortons, he went to a local donut store to pick up some snacks.  This is, of course, a rank betrayal.

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