Log archive of EquestriaDaily for Friday, 2020-02-07

00:04 <Cepheid> Let's see...  still need high rank tobi parts.  Then I need to go to the coral highlands.

00:07 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Poll Results: You Get to Spend a Week at One Place in Equestria! Where Do You Choose? [ http://tinyurl.com/rksdzw4 ]

00:09 * Ali flops over Cepheid

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00:16 <Schism> Yay, Plunderers get.

00:28 <Schism> Hum.  A thousand and a bit in Endemic Life points.  Not bad.

00:28 <Cepheid> Hum.  Tempered monsters still hurt.

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00:29 * Ali gently boops Cepheid nosie

00:30 <Cepheid> Hoi.

00:30 <Schism> H'okay.  This fish does NOT want to be caught.  Back to town I go to find an investigation worth doing.

00:30 <Schism> And sell the trade-in items.  Wonder how much I'll get.

00:31 <Schism> Hello there.  FIVE King Armor Spheres today?

00:32 <Schism> That.  That's quite the haul, today.

00:32 <ADragonDreaming> I have those

00:32 <ADragonDreaming> where do those come from?

00:32 <Schism> Daily login bonuses today are insane.

00:33 <Schism> * Sell all trade-in items.

00:33 <Schism> * The return is 348,400z.  Proceed?

00:33 <Cepheid> King armor spheres, far as I can tell, originate from master rank limited bounties.

00:34 <Schism> And that puts me above a million zenny.  Just a few million more until I can take part in the War of Emperium--wait, no.

00:36 * Ali rolls around, she's bored and not sure what to be doing.

00:37 <ADragonDreaming> special item packs.

00:37 <Schism> Yup.

00:41 <Cepheid> Can't really type in game.

00:42 <Ali> Oh also Cepheid, factorio updated to 18.4

00:42 <ADragonDreaming> hoi

00:42 <Cepheid> So just mention target and I'll gear up.

00:42 <Cepheid> Yeah I saw.  Already updated server.

00:42 <Schism> I'm tempted to go after those general 'hunt EVERYTHING' event quests.

00:43 <ADragonDreaming> go for it

00:43 <Cepheid> Sounds fun.  Sure.  Which one?

00:43 <Schism> Let's start with Ancient Forest and work from there.

00:43 <ADragonDreaming> post and we'll review and go

00:45 <ADragonDreaming> I am brining blast weapon, since universally effective.

00:46 <Schism> Aye.

00:46 <Schism> And generalized armour helps.

00:46 <ADragonDreaming> Uragaan is as all-purpose as it gets.

00:46 <ADragonDreaming> well, sort of.

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01:07 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Fanfiction Updates - Febraruary 6th  [ http://tinyurl.com/s9pnmnc ]

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01:20 <Schism> Those rewards... are acceptable.

01:20 <Cepheid> Take care Adra.

01:20 <Schism> Aww, cya.

01:20 <Cepheid> What next?

01:21 <Schism> Probably something a bit more laid back.  Also, yeesh, I got six decorations from that, including a Flinch Jewel 3.

01:22 <Cepheid> Sounds good.  And yeah, lotta decorations.

01:22 <Schism> Urugaan x2?  Armour sphere bonus.

01:22 <Cepheid> Sure.

01:23 <Cepheid> Lemme try something first though.

01:23 <Schism> Sure, I also need to update my bounties and Palico hunt.

01:27 <PinkieShy> Welp We're under tornado watch now

01:27 <PinkieShy> and the wind is picking up even worse with the rain out there..

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01:46 <Schism> We just got a fair number of armorspheres.  o3o

02:16 <Cepheid> Geezus, all the bonus rewards. o3o;

02:16 <Schism> Loads, yea.  o3o

02:17 <Cepheid> Oop.  I got disconnected.

02:17 <Schism> There we go.  Nergigante complete.

02:18 <Cepheid> Wanna hunt him now?

02:20 <Schism> Hmm.  Have we fought enough Kirin...

02:22 <Schism> Gimme a sec.

02:24 <Schism> Nope, nothing great there.  Sure, I'm down for Nergigante.

02:24 <Cepheid> Just gimme a yell when you're getting beat up.

02:25 <Schism> ... huh.

02:26 <Cepheid> Hmm/

02:26 <Schism> Just got disconnected.

02:26 <Cepheid> Happens.

02:27 <Cepheid> Truth told, your connection seems a bit spotty at the moment.  Been noticing lag in games you host.

02:27 <Schism> Yeah, I think that's Kitchener being a... problem.

02:27 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Nightly Discussion #2063 [ http://tinyurl.com/rkwkknx ]

02:29 <Schism> Okay, game restarted and I'm launching the quest.

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02:33 <Cepheid> Hum, is it a quest or expedition?

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02:34 <Schism> Quest.  1/1.

02:34 <Cepheid> Right, right.

02:34 <Cepheid> It'll open up after the cutscene.

02:35 <Schism> Slot added.

02:37 <Schism> Do I also have to throw a flare, or...

02:38 <Cepheid> Are you fighting him?

02:38 <Schism> Not yet.

02:38 <Cepheid> You have to find him first.

02:38 <Cepheid> And start fighting him.

02:38 <Cepheid> Such is story quests.

02:43 <ADragonDreaming> which monstar?

02:46 * PrincessRainbows noms on a bit of hay while waiting for pizza

02:51 <Schism> Nergigante.

02:52 <Schism> Ohey.  Effluvia Resistance 1.  This will SURELY NOT BE IMPORTANT.

02:52 <Cepheid> Yep.

02:52 <Cepheid> So, what's next on the quest list?

02:55 <Schism> Not quite sure.

02:59 <Schism> I've an optional one: Talons of Ice and Fire.  I think it's Legiana and Rathalos.

02:59 <Cepheid> It's four monsters.

02:59 <Cepheid> According to Kiranico..

03:00 <Cepheid> Legiana, Odogaron, Tzitzi, and... Deviljho?

03:00 <Cepheid> Gotta be off on that last one.

03:00 <Cepheid> I'm pretty sure it's just Legiana and Odo.

03:00 <Cepheid> I'm game for murdering them.

03:01 <Schism> Sounds good.

03:01 <Schism> Armour upgrade complete...

03:07 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Comic Dub Compilation #58 [ http://tinyurl.com/smyhtqj ]

03:12 <Cepheid> I think I'm done at this point for the evening, Schism.

03:12 <Cepheid> I'm getting a headache, and a rising fever.

03:13 <Schism> Sounds like a good stopping point.

03:13 <Cepheid> Yep.

03:13 <Cepheid> That said, my mother watched us that last hunt.

03:13 <Schism> What'd she have to say?

03:14 <Cepheid> Mostly shocked at how quickly we killed Odo.

03:14 <Schism> We didn't get in each others' way as often, either.

03:14 * Cepheid sells trade-in items for 390,000z.

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03:16 <Cepheid> Geezus.

03:16 <Cepheid> I used all the melding tickets I've gotten.

03:16 <Cepheid> I got 3 Handicraft jewels.

03:16 <Schism> Whatcha get?

03:16 <Schism> Oh, nice!

03:17 <Cepheid> Meanwhile, the steel melding tickets got me..

03:17 <Cepheid> Also, these tickets seem to be a Master Rank thing.  They're actual tickets you just trade in for feystones.

03:17 <Cepheid> So you can get a ton of decorations from it.

03:18 <Schism> Huh.  That's a nice set of jewels I'm not going to be able to use for a while.

03:18 <Cepheid> Couple more earplug gems are the most of interest.

03:19 <Schism> Brace/Vit 4, Slider/Release 4, Fort/Handi 4, Flawless/Vit 4, and Destroyer/Protection 4.

03:19 <Cepheid> Geezus.

03:19 <Schism> How do the Silver ones measure up?

03:19 <Cepheid> They tend to be level 2-3 jewels.

03:20 <Cepheid> Steel tend to be lower-tier 1-3 jewels.

03:20 <Schism> Got two Release level 3 jewels.  *sigh*

03:20 <Cepheid> No real reason to hold onto the tickets as far as I know.  They aren't used for anything else.

03:20 <Cepheid> Hey, dun knock it.

03:20 <Schism> Oh, they're useful, but two of them are not.

03:20 <Cepheid> Free Element/Ammo Up isn't bad.

03:20 <Cepheid> True.

03:21 <Schism> And I already -had- one.

03:21 <Schism> They're useful for melding, I guess.

03:21 <Cepheid> Upgrade that handicraft charm once..

03:22 <Cepheid> And I can get maxed out handicraft.

03:23 <Cepheid> Handicraft Charm III requires..

03:23 <Cepheid> Xeno'Jiiva gems, claws, dragoncore ore, and...

03:23 <Cepheid> An unknown item.

03:23 <Cepheid> Probably a commendation.

03:25 <Schism> Probably.

03:25 <Cepheid> ... Really?  I only needed an Odo gem to get up to Master's Charm III, as I already have all the items to go go from II to III.

03:25 <Cepheid> Meanwhile, III->IV requires unknown parts.  All unknown parts.

03:25 <Schism> Well then.  o3o  This worked out well for both of us.

03:26 <Cepheid> Still, Affinity +15% isn't bad.

03:26 <Schism> Moar Parashrooms for me, I think.  

03:27 <Cepheid> Especially as I somehow acquired an Expert Jewel+ 4, which grants +2 to Critical Eye, further boosting affinity another 10%

03:28 <Cepheid> And I also got 2 expert jewels 2, which get me critical eye +1 for each.  I can reach +7.

03:28 <Cepheid> Which grants a staggering 40% affinity.

03:29 <Schism> Meanwhile, I've decided to drop a few mats on a Friendship Charm 3.

03:30 <Cepheid> Nice.

03:30 * Schism chugs a Max Potion, then spits it up all over Cepheid.

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03:30 <Cepheid> Doesn't work with Max Potions. :P

03:30 <Schism> Oh fine.  But High Potions, Nullberries, et cetera...

03:31 * Cepheid checks mushroomancer skill, since mushrooms work with wide-range.

03:32 <Cepheid> Huh.  You can eat Mandragoras with it for a Max Potion effect.

03:32 <Cepheid> Which is impressive.

03:32 <Cepheid> Given that you can hold 10 mandragoras.

03:32 <Schism> And grow them... o.o

03:33 <Schism> Didn't you say there was a change to Layered Armor?

03:33 <Cepheid> There was supposed to be according to the patch notes.

03:33 <Cepheid> But I don't see it myself.

03:33 <Cepheid> Unless it was in regards to the new items added in general.

03:33 <Schism> Strange.

03:34 * Ali hugs Cepheid, hates to be a pest but how long are they going to be up longer? She is only checking cause she kinda needs a distraction if possible but understands if they want to keep hunting.

03:35 <Cepheid> Anyways..

03:35 <Cepheid> I'm actually heading off to bed.

03:35 <Schism> Gowan, Cephy... awr.

03:35 <Ali> Just fine, was just thinking if you were staying up

03:36 <Cepheid> Nope.  I'm headed off, unfortunately.  Illness is getting the better of me.

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03:37 <Schism> I'm likely to do the same, because it's 11 AM and I have to get out to work by 7.

03:37 <Schism> 11 PM*

04:07 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Makenshi: Pony Dreams Music: Thorinair - A Recurring Nightmare [Ambient] [ http://tinyurl.com/rwhks7b ]

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04:40 * Ali has no energy to play with PrincessRainbows, can only cuddle her.

04:42 <PrincessRainbows> This is OK

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05:18 * PrincessRainbows gives Ali a pony ride anyway and curls up under her with a plushie and pacifier. Nini

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07:10 * PrincessRainbows whinnies and looks on innocently

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11:07 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Morning Discussion #1836 [ http://tinyurl.com/w57aj9s ]

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11:59 <Finwe> Good afternoon, everypony!

12:07 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Comic: Crazy 16 / Stick Figures / ANL 3:57 / TWD 3:52 / Wine 23 [ http://tinyurl.com/r8x97gb ]

12:21 <Finwe> Capt Koopz, Mlles DashedRat, Sleeping_Nightmares; Messrs Starlight_Glimmer, RazorSharpFang, Bubs, Schism, Cepheid.

12:21 <Finwe> o7

12:22 <RazorSharpFang> Heyas

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13:10 <Koopz> RAdm. Finwe o7

13:31 * Finwe hts on Koopz.

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13:44 <Koopz> i seem to have the high ground now

13:46 <Koopz> i wrote a cronjob that automatically kills any process owned by www-data and called cron every 5 minutes

13:47 <Lumindia> ?

13:47 * Lumindia sits on Koopz

13:47 * Lumindia brushes

13:48 <Koopz> had a hacker constantly running a bitcoin miner on my server with a binary he called "cron"

13:48 <Lumindia> ah

13:48 <Lumindia> so you've basically just made a 'search and destroy' process to counter it?

13:48 <Koopz> exactly

13:48 <RazorSharpFang> Wait, you've got a hacker on your machine and you're not nuking the machine?

13:49 <Koopz> he's using *some* web server based vulnerability to run this crap on my server but i can't figure out how

13:49 <RazorSharpFang> How about take the server offline?

13:50 <Koopz> yeah that's probably a good idea with 10 domains and their mailboxes being used by customers

13:50 <RazorSharpFang> Oh, you're in some deep trouble

13:51 <Koopz> eh make it 20 domains

13:51 <RazorSharpFang> Was it one of the customers' vulnerabilities do you think?

13:51 <Koopz> well...

13:52 <Koopz> no, not really... afaik the only websites left running on this old thing are outdated Typo3 installations that we once set up

13:53 <Koopz> and we didn't migrate those yet because the new webserver doesn't run PHP 5.4 ;D

13:53 <RazorSharpFang> Maybe the vulnerability is in the old version of PHP

13:53 <Koopz> could be

13:53 <Koopz> it's certainly not SSH

13:54 <Koopz> no logins aside from mine in the logs

13:54 <RazorSharpFang> What makes you think they're not editing those?

13:54 <Koopz> because www-data doesn't have write access on logs owned by root

13:55 <RazorSharpFang> Well, what if they escalated their privileges?

13:55 <Koopz> and if he had root access he'd probably do other things

13:56 <RazorSharpFang> Still, that's very concerning, but at least you're keeping the miner to a minimum.

13:58 <Koopz> if i can trust my "minerkiller.log" he hasn't deployed his batch of files ever since i setup that cronjob

13:58 <Koopz> which was 2 days ago

13:58 <RazorSharpFang> I guess you can check your installed services against the CVEs and hope it's not a new vulnerability

13:58 <Koopz> oh no i wouldn't dare to do that

13:59 <Koopz> i'd probably die from shock

13:59 <RazorSharpFang> Uh

13:59 <Koopz> we're talking about a Debian 6

13:59 <RazorSharpFang> This sounds like you've got many problems right now.

13:59 <Koopz> with TLS 1.1

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14:00 <Koopz> this thing really is a sinking ship, i just don't have time to migrate things to the new servers

14:00 <RazorSharpFang> And I presume you're not able to update quite a few things here without breaking compatibility eh?

14:00 <Koopz> if it weren't for Plesk i'd give it a try

14:01 <RazorSharpFang> You'll have to remind me what that is.

14:01 <Koopz> Plesk is a monster of a website and mail management application

14:03 <Koopz> a real abomination if you ask me, having it's hands in most of the stuff running on the server: postfix, qmail, apache2, you name it

14:03 <RazorSharpFang> I'd say it's 50% likely to be that.

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14:04 <Koopz> i mean it's nice and all to be able to manage mail accounts using a web interface

14:04 <RazorSharpFang> Gmail does that

14:04 <Koopz> but the way this thing sets up config files that the applications use is just horrible

14:05 <Koopz> to give you an example: there's a vhost where i'd like to setup Let's Encrypt certs

14:06 <Koopz> this version of Plesk is too old to handle generating them by itself and only gives you the option to upload them yourself

14:06 <RazorSharpFang> Wait, you have to manually do that?

14:06 <Koopz> every 3 months, supposedly

14:06 <RazorSharpFang> Wowie.

14:07 <Koopz> there's a trick though: the devs were nice enough to leave the pros the ability to edit specific config files that would get included by the automatically generated apache2 config file for the vhost

14:07 <Koopz> if present

14:08 <RazorSharpFang> It's been quite a while since I messed around with apache2

14:09 <Koopz> the bad thing: Those automatically generated configs mention "vhost.conf" and "vhost_ssl.conf" as those files, but if you actually search for the inclusion of the vhost_ssl.conf file inside that config there's no include to be seen

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14:09 <Koopz> the dev writing the generator forgot about that

14:09 <Koopz> bug

14:09 <Koopz> now what do?

14:10 <RazorSharpFang> I don't suppose you have their source-code? :3

14:10 <Koopz> you edit the automatically generated file and directly point it to /root/.acme.sh/domain.tld/<here's the cert and key>

14:10 <Koopz> and put a note somewhere to NEVER edit the hosting through the web interface ever again

14:11 <RazorSharpFang> Hmm. What do you think is the likely vulnerability culprit?

14:12 <Koopz> i really don't know... previous attackers somehow found out ftp passwords, uploaded malicous php files in the hosting and requested them

14:13 <RazorSharpFang> Did that do anything?

14:13 <Koopz> well yeah if they manage to upload a web-shell they can do pretty much anything with the www-data user

14:14 <Koopz> but i already checked the ftp logs and access logs of every vhost, nothing like that happened

14:14 <RazorSharpFang> Which user was the process spawned under again?

14:14 <Koopz> also scanned every vhosts's php files but didn't find any obfuscated code bits in existing files

14:15 <Koopz> www-data

14:15 <RazorSharpFang> Something web-based eh?

14:15 <Koopz> which is only used by the web hostings yes

14:15 <RazorSharpFang> Has the miner been found multiple times yet?

14:16 <Koopz> he placed this https://gist.github.com/Koopzington/1241aafcea2b0a2f8f07a9d5c459cf44 in 3 different locations so far

14:16 <Koopz> /dev/shm/systemd, /tmp, /tmp/ICE.UNIX

14:18 <RazorSharpFang> Interesting.

14:18 <Koopz> /dev/shm and /tmp are both locations www-data can write to

14:19 <Koopz> "cron" and "ssh" in the root.sh are both the 32 and 64bit versions of the bitminer

14:20 <RazorSharpFang> Ah, I see.

14:20 <Koopz> hmm... a bash script instantly get's killed off if one command fails, right?

14:21 <RazorSharpFang> No, not usually.

14:21 <Koopz> okay... because in addition to my cronjob to kill the processes i also chowned the crontab file of www-data so he couldn't edit it anymore

14:22 <Koopz> i don't know why "cron.deny" doesn't work on this system so i used that workaround

14:22 <RazorSharpFang> Maybe your system is just that old.

14:23 <Koopz> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

14:27 <RazorSharpFang> Either way you've got your work cut out for you. Is there a reason folk are using tech that's 10+ years out-of-support ?

14:28 <Koopz> because people are scared of updates

14:28 <Koopz> especially distro upgrades

14:28 <Koopz> things are guaranteed to break

14:29 <RazorSharpFang> Okay, but these things are planned. As least for Ubuntu, they have a schedule of releases and support dates.

14:29 <Koopz> and nobody has time to spend a week fixing it while getting customer calls every 5 minutes asking why they don't receive any mails

14:29 <RazorSharpFang> There ought to be a planned upgrade and/or obsolescence method.

14:30 <Koopz> i'm already getting those without anything being broken and our mailserver just straight up refusing the sender server's mail due to them being on a blacklist

14:30 <Koopz> yes, renting a new server and migrating step-by-step to the new one

14:30 <RazorSharpFang> Are you the person who calls the shots on this, or is that someone else?

14:31 <Koopz> i've basically become that person starting this year, yeah

14:31 <RazorSharpFang> You're a brave soul, I hope you can untangle the mess you've inherited.

14:31 <Koopz> due to my coworker and vice-ceo leaving the company in december

14:32 <Koopz> last programming employee

14:32 <RazorSharpFang> What if you also put in your week(s?) notice?

14:32 <Koopz> then my company would be having a bad time

14:32 <RazorSharpFang> But, it wouldn't be your problem anymore, right?

14:32 <Koopz> well, yes

14:33 <RazorSharpFang> I'm more-or-less asking if you're feeling up to the task of fixing what's been neglected for far-too-long.

14:33 <Koopz> i'm confident enough to say i could take care of it

14:34 <Koopz> i just need a clone of me so i have the time to do it

14:34 <Koopz> because currently i'm more or less suffocating under a bunch of tasks that would generate income

14:35 <RazorSharpFang> Hrmm.

14:35 <RazorSharpFang> You'll have to forgive me if I'm starting to doubt the company as a whole right now.

14:36 <Koopz> dealing simultanously with internal tasks that we can't write invoices for isn't as high priority

14:36 <RazorSharpFang> Sounds like you need more staff.

14:36 <Koopz> oh yeah i'd say we're understaffed

14:38 <RazorSharpFang> Certainly sounds like it, and maybe it's been a long-standing thing.

14:39 <RazorSharpFang> How we inherit the sins of the people who came before us.

14:40 <Koopz> everything was fine when my coworker was still there

14:40 <Koopz> now i got work for two

14:40 <Koopz> but eh... off into the weekend now

14:40 <RazorSharpFang> I'm going to express my doubt - it sounds to me like there was some work to be done, that got put off forever.

14:41 <RazorSharpFang> It's "fine" in the way your car is fine without servicing or oil-changes, but it's not fine forever.

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14:42 <DokiDokiMagikku> hi

14:43 <DokiDokiMagikku> hello?

14:43 <RazorSharpFang> You must be new to IRC if you're expecting quick responses.

14:44 <RazorSharpFang> I occasionally get answers to questions hours after-the-fact, because they saw the query in their logs as they were catching up.

14:44 <Finwe> o3o

14:45 * Finwe hats on DokiDokiMagikku.

14:45 <DokiDokiMagikku> i know that there will be slow responses

14:46 <DokiDokiMagikku> yesterday I had a great chat on Canternet

14:47 <DokiDokiMagikku> Are there still mods here lol

14:47 <RazorSharpFang> There are. They're around every now-and-then.

14:47 <RazorSharpFang> The trolls are rarely seen around these parts. Turns out they don't stick around.

14:50 <DokiDokiMagikku> I really hate The Last Problem

14:51 <RazorSharpFang> Oh, and what is that?

14:52 <DokiDokiMagikku> Why I hate it?

14:53 <RazorSharpFang> No, what is the last problem?

14:53 <DokiDokiMagikku> The last episode of MLP.

14:53 <DokiDokiMagikku> I think that Magical Mystery Cure would be a better finale.

14:54 <RazorSharpFang> I haven't seen either episode.

14:54 <DokiDokiMagikku> Neither MMC and TLP?!

14:54 <DokiDokiMagikku> When you have stopped watching MLP?

14:55 <RazorSharpFang> Probably season 4.

14:55 <DokiDokiMagikku> MMC was in Season 3

14:55 <RazorSharpFang> What's the synopsis for that one again?

14:55 <DokiDokiMagikku> In MMC Twilight turned into a alicorn

14:56 <RazorSharpFang> I only vaguely remember that episode. It must have been years ago.

14:56 <DokiDokiMagikku> And TLP... It's so bad that you have to watch it your self

14:57 <DokiDokiMagikku> But if you really want me to tell you the story of TLP...

14:57 <RazorSharpFang> I was a naive child back then, those years ago.

14:57 <DokiDokiMagikku> I stopped watching at Season 5

14:58 <DokiDokiMagikku> OK. So let me tell you some of Season 9 so you will understand TLP.

14:58 <DokiDokiMagikku> So in ep. 1-2 Celestia and Luna announce that they are retiring.

14:59 <RazorSharpFang> I will admit though, that since I hadn't even heard of the title of the last episode of MLP, I thought this conversation was going to go very very differently.

14:59 <DokiDokiMagikku> What did you expect this conversation to be?

15:00 <DokiDokiMagikku> We can change the topic at anytime :)

15:00 <RazorSharpFang> I can't even say what I thought it was due to the channel rules UwU

15:00 <DokiDokiMagikku> We can go on priv lol

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16:07 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Makenshi: Community Classic Remix: AwkwardMarina - Anthropology (Forest Rain Remix) (feat. Dr. Thallium) [Electro Swing] [ http://tinyurl.com/sbvzwxm ]

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16:57 <Cepheid> !link https://youtu.be/kPRA0W1kECg have audio on.  This is both fascinating to watch and listen to.

16:57 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.

16:57 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about 15 Sorting Algorithms in 6 Minutes

17:07 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: SeaBronies Posting Last Call for 2020 Cruise  [ http://tinyurl.com/t2z9gnd ]

17:08 <Cepheid> !link https://youtu.be/sYd_-pAfbBw the radix sorts are interesting.

17:08 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.

17:08 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about 16 Sorts - Disparity Dots

17:12 <Cepheid> https://youtu.be/LOZTuMds3LM this one shows estimated real time taken.  Since videos aren't exactly representative of speed when you show every step.

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17:20 <Cepheid> If anything that video provides a lot of useful data.  Shows how many writes are done to an array, comparison counts, etc.

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17:51 <Cepheid> My only complaint is that it's missing information like cache hits/miss with a given cache line size.  That kind of information is important in depicting the usefulness of a given algorithm.

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18:07 <Ali> So Cepheid, last night Factorio trolled the crap out of me.

18:07 <Cepheid> Oh?

18:07 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: 'Fashion Failure' Stop Motion Short Ep. 3 🎀 My Little Pony [ http://tinyurl.com/sm8pyfb ]

18:07 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Hearts and Hooves Day - February 14th! (Replacing Shiny and Cadance Day This Year)  [ http://tinyurl.com/wxxcrof ]

18:08 <Ali> https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1990678512

18:08 <Cepheid> Aside from the bugs, I don't see the problem.

18:09 <Ali> Its of course the bugs

18:09 * PrincessRainbows licks Ali a lot and wags her tail

18:09 <Ali> It keeps placing them extremely close to the starting area

18:09 <Ali> Or when I think its only two bases and wont have a problem

18:10 <Ali> Radar shows three more bases a hex away that wasn't shown in the starter scan

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18:14 <Ali> Also Cepheid, they do seem to attack in larger numbers now

18:15 <Ali> I had minor stink hitting a bug base, and they sent 15 at me and swamped me out

18:15 <Cepheid> Yep.

18:17 <Ali> Lost all my copper production and all I had was a shotgun and a turret that wouldn't clean up the base on its own

18:17 <Ali> So wanna muck around on the server?

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18:29 * PrincessRainbows trots away and curls up in the corner

18:31 * Ali sorries to PrincessRainbows and picks her up and gives her treats

18:37 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: SeaBronies Posting Last Call for 2020 Cruise  [ http://tinyurl.com/t2z9gnd ]

18:37 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Makenshi: Community Classic Remix: AwkwardMarina - Anthropology (Forest Rain Remix) (feat. Dr. Thallium) [Electro Swing] [ http://tinyurl.com/sbvzwxm ]

18:37 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: 'Fashion Failure' Stop Motion Short Ep. 3 🎀 My Little Pony [ http://tinyurl.com/sm8pyfb ]

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18:46 <Cepheid> I'm a bit busy at the moment.  Let me finish what I'm doing, and get some quick chores done, then sure.

18:48 * PrincessRainbows licks Ali a lot, is about to leave to a con

18:51 <Cepheid> Also take a quick 15-minute shower, because i haven't taken one in two days.

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19:06 <Cepheid> I am not sure which parent is directly responsible, but one of them is giving Tizzy water from the sink again.

19:06 <Cepheid> And it's pissing me off.

19:07 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Hearts and Hooves Day - February 14th! (Replacing Shiny and Cadance Day This Year)  [ http://tinyurl.com/wxxcrof ]

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21:01 <Cepheid> https://twitter.com/LuminousOcean/status/1225887133765980162 So Ali, this is what happens to my headphones after about 2-3 months of usage.

21:02 <Cepheid> My skin exudes some oil that is destructive to the material.

21:04 * Schism flops in, and offers Cepheid a thousand-year-old teapot.

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21:07 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Drawfriend Stuff (Pony Art Gallery) #3244 [ http://tinyurl.com/quumy3u ]

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21:08 <Schism> Ali: Remember, you should always eat well before going out for a duel.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFIXAvOQBMc

21:10 <Schism> Cepheid: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhJeXIxhLc4 - the extended process of palico cooking.  o3o

21:10 <Cepheid> Yeah, I've watched it all.

21:11 <Cepheid> It's pretty detailed in Seliana's canteen.

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23:07 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Comic: Destiny 2 / Volunteer Friendship / Missing Joy 7 / Pone Wars 10:3 / Faceoff [ http://tinyurl.com/u9ne8qw ]

23:21 <Cepheid> I swear, all this paranoia over the coronavirus is gonna land me in quarantine, despite having no recent history of travel and/or contact with people traveling to/from countries with outbreaks of coronavirus.

23:25 * Cepheid goes monhanning. Needs research points, so, time to take an expedition to the freezing cold.

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23:45 <Cepheid> To this day, I still cannot comprehend how vinyl records became popular again.

23:46 <Cepheid> There is no appreciable difference that I can notice between a record, and a digital recording.

23:50 <Cepheid> There's also issues with respect as to the source of the audio imprinted on the records in the first place, as well.  Sorry, but I don't think we make records using the tools of that analog age.  I'm pretty sure we're just pressing a digital copy of the audio onto a record.

23:52 <Schism> There is a concern there.  While a lossless, FLAC encoding of a vinyl record may approach the original sound, there is still some cleanup involved in the sound.

23:53 <Schism> A vinyl record tends to distort, which lends it a dirtier, more organic quality than even a lossless recording.

23:54 <Schism> Because our ears are used to hearing actual voices, instead of synthetic reproductions, this means that in a very real sense, FLAC recordings which have been cleaned up are the audio equivalent of the uncanny valley.

23:55 <Cepheid> I'm inclined to disagree.

23:55 <Cepheid> And besides..

23:55 <Schism> Fair nuff.  I'm just spitballing anyway.

23:56 <Cepheid> No sane musician would record a record these days.  They'd do recordings to a digital format with a sufficiently high frequency, with sufficiently high accuracy in the data format, and then just print that onto the record.

23:56 <Cepheid> You don't even have to do compression.

23:57 <Schism> Oh.  That.  Well, that's just nostalgia.

23:57 <Cepheid> If you wanted a proper vinyl record, you'd have to go back to old technology that actually records to a vinyl record.  And... no, I can't see anyone sane doing that anymore.

23:57 <Cepheid> That'd be like me going back to 5.25" floppy discs for a game because it's more authentic.

23:57 <Schism> New releases going back to vinyl, nope, that's just folks doing the nostalgia kick.

23:57 <Cepheid> Yeah, but it creates an industry that has no reason to exist.

23:58 <Cepheid> There is legitimately no reason to be producing vinyl records, except to cash in on the nostalgia factor of people.

23:58 <Schism> $Money$.

23:58 <Schism> Yeah, it sucks, but when there's a market...

23:58 <Cepheid> Yeah, I know, I know.

23:58 <Cepheid> It's just... it's stupid.

23:59 <Cepheid> Your wasting space to build the facilities to print the records, make the record players, and you're wasting electricity, and probably materials that could be better used elsewhere.

23:59 <Cepheid> For what?

23:59 * Schism hands Cepheid a small drink of lemon and coke, and puts a tricorne on his head.

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