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01:15 <PinkieShy> :(
01:15 <PinkieShy> I got bad news that turned my day upside down extremely fast.
01:15 <PinkieShy> My Great Aunt on my mom's side of the family.. Passed away yesterday. :(
01:16 <PinkieShy> My mom called me about 3pm and told me.. I broke out crying, Even though i lost touch with my great aunt Paula for years now.. The memories I have have not been lost.. :(
01:17 <PinkieShy> She had Dementia and was in a nursing home (Where she died).. March 2nd 1947 - March 3rd 2020..
01:17 *** Pony|44334 is now known as ThatAnonPony
01:18 * ThatAnonPony snugs PinkieShy.
01:19 <PinkieShy> I keep losing so much family since 2010.. ITs breaking my heart.
01:21 <PinkieShy> My grandma (mom's mom) 2010 died, Almost all my great uncles (My dad's mom brothers) all have died but like 2 of them.. and My grandma (My dad's mom) in 2016.. sigh.
01:23 <ThatAnonPony> I'm sorry to hear that, PinkieShy.
01:23 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Willa Milner and Matt Cowlrick turn up the heat at Everfree Northwest 2020 [ http://tinyurl.com/sy3ru7u ]
01:24 * Ali snugs the PinkieShy as well
01:24 <ThatAnonPony> I'm not really sure what I can say to help either. Unfortunately, losing people is just a part of growing older, as sad as that is.
01:25 <ThatAnonPony> Hold on to the memories you have, and grow closer to those who are still here. And even if EqD is getting quieter now, there's usually someone you can talk to around here if you need to.
01:25 * ThatAnonPony snuggles.
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01:29 * ThatAnonPony #badathelping o3o;;
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02:03 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Nightly Discussion #2090 [ http://tinyurl.com/tz3g5vo ]
02:34 <PinkieShy> Welp I'm going to bed..
02:34 <PinkieShy> Good Night everyone :3
02:34 <PinkieShy> See you guys.. Sunday
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03:07 * ThatAnonPony snuggles over to Ali for a change--because snuggles are best form of locomotion!
03:09 * Ali snugs with ThatAnonPony and yawns softly
03:10 <ThatAnonPony> Sleepiest Ali?
03:23 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Makenshi: Sunset & Adagio Music: Branrich VanIstner - Bacon and The Siren [Lounge] [ http://tinyurl.com/r7x6gnf ]
03:27 <Ali> No, more bored a bit ThatAnonPony
03:33 <ThatAnonPony> Do a game? Read a thing?
03:33 <ThatAnonPony> Watch videos of cats doing silly things?
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06:06 * PrincessRainbows flops on Ali and makes angry horse noises
06:06 * Ali squeaks and cowers under PrincessRainbows, what did she do..
06:09 <PrincessRainbows> Homework is bad and old versions of
06:09 <PrincessRainbows> .net are weird
06:09 <PrincessRainbows> And touchscreens suck for writing
06:11 * PrincessRainbows looks up at Ali with teary eyes now
06:11 * Ali brushies the PrincessRainbows
06:13 * PrincessRainbows whimpers and curls up under her
06:19 * PrincessRainbows grabs her pacifier if plushie to go sleep cause exhausted filly
06:21 <Ali> Night night
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07:17 * Ali gently shakes ADragonDreaming, the last 10% of space tech is taking forever
07:19 * Golden flops.
07:20 * Ali flops over Golden too
07:23 <Golden> Oof
07:26 <Ali> Well I got sub 30 in Factorio
07:41 <Moongoodgirl> o3o
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09:33 <ConfusionRift> Hello everypony.
09:45 * Ali snugs on ConfusionRift as she beat Factorio sub 30h
09:46 * ConfusionRift patpats Ali. :P
09:47 * ConfusionRift is really far behind.
09:56 * Ali really wants to play with others though as playing by herself is.. well...not as fun now.
09:56 * ConfusionRift nods.
09:58 <ConfusionRift> Unfortunately, no server.
10:19 <Golden> Hm
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10:32 * PrincessRainbows clutches her plushie and looks up with teary eyes at ConfusionRift with grabby hooves
10:33 * ConfusionRift goes back to Factorio. He hasn't done much.
10:33 * ConfusionRift grabbies PrincessRainbows and patpats.
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10:48 <Cepheid> The biggest issue I have with the name "COVID-19" is that every time I read or hear it, my mind likes to recall Breen's City-17 speech from Half-Life 2.
10:48 <Cepheid> Or at least the opening of it any ways.
10:51 * PrincessRainbows hugs and whimpers
10:52 <ConfusionRift> Why does that sound familiar?
10:53 <ConfusionRift> Oh that, right.
10:55 * PrincessRainbows hides under ConfusionRift and whimpers more
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10:59 * Cepheid noms oranges.
11:03 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Morning Discussion #1862 [ http://tinyurl.com/ug3h27j ]
11:04 * ConfusionRift huggles PrincessRainbows.
11:07 * Cepheid sends Jormungand to play with ConfusionRift.
11:08 * ConfusionRift speeds on his monocycle, and starts throwing spears at Jormungand.
11:09 <Cepheid> You too huh? I used spears everywhere I could. Then I proceeded to take that hammer and get the feather.
11:10 <ConfusionRift> Keep in mind of the potential of the hammer.
11:10 <Cepheid> As a weapon yeah, I know.
11:11 <Cepheid> And for preventing those damned eyes from hurting me.
11:11 * ConfusionRift nods. "Except the other eye."
11:11 <ConfusionRift> Those will hit you, regardless of anything.
11:11 <Cepheid> Yep.
11:12 <ConfusionRift> One of the reasons why I hated the Ancient Chaos.
11:12 <Cepheid> Heh.
11:12 <ConfusionRift> Aside from just bad enemy placement.
11:12 <Cepheid> The other reason being the tower climb and enemies.
11:13 <ConfusionRift> Truth be told, I'm gonna be giving this game a long break.
11:14 <ConfusionRift> Let's say that there was a puzzle that made no sense to me, required more piecing than it should, and others have led me to just hate it in general.
11:15 <Cepheid> Mmhmm. Deceased Crab commented on how the difficulty of the game ruins the game a tad.
11:15 * ConfusionRift throws the Cog of Antiquity.
11:15 <Cepheid> Heh.
11:15 <ConfusionRift> This thing. Is stupid.
11:17 <ConfusionRift> The pacing in the game, especially later on, feels all over the place. Yes, the first game had this problem if you just ran off with reckless abandon, nut not to this level.
11:17 <ConfusionRift> *but, not nut.
11:17 <Cepheid> Meanwhile, my game, I plan to take input from testers and the like. If I start getting complaints about one particular puzzle, I'm gonna investigate either changing the puzzle or adding more hints.
11:18 <Lumindia> oh hey, castlevania season 3 is out
11:18 <ConfusionRift> Fun fact. upon some searching, they did change it a bit to give more hints of it.
11:19 <Cepheid> The most obscure puzzle for me thus far has been the Dinosaur Statue.
11:19 <Cepheid> Yeah, that little statue looks a tad out of place, but only one weapon seems to damage it.
11:20 <Cepheid> All others just go through it, or can't reach it.
11:20 <ConfusionRift> Actually, two.
11:20 <Cepheid> Oh?
11:20 <ConfusionRift> The rapier apparently damages it as well.
11:21 <Cepheid> Can't be the spear. I tried that.
11:21 <Cepheid> Yeah, that's what I used.
11:21 <ConfusionRift> And the flare, which is what I used.
11:22 <Cepheid> ... Which is tricky to get without Thor's hammer. Which itself requires the Dinosaur Statue.
11:22 <Cepheid> Kudos to you for getting the flare gun without the hammer.
11:23 <ConfusionRift> Did I? Wait...
11:24 <Cepheid> You get it in the Shrine, after a pair of minibosses, one of which uses thunder as it's primary attack mode.
11:24 <ConfusionRift> Aaaah, okay, I confused it with something else. Yes, I used the rapier. It made more sense with it. But you CAN use the flair. I think I did try it out with no success.
11:25 <ConfusionRift> And things start feeling reused after a certain point in the game.
11:26 <Cepheid> "Look up here..." *Stands, looks up* *Nearly crushed because he was familiar with the trap*
11:26 <Cepheid> Truth told, thre whole game feels kind of "re-used" and for an obvious reason.
11:27 <Cepheid> Because the ruins of Eg-Lana are basically set up in the same way as La-Mulana. Down to the basic ideas of some areas.
11:27 <ConfusionRift> "There's nothing here." | The hell does that supposed to mean? (walks all over the place completely lost) There's a chest there, and nothing more. Hmmmm- (dais emerges) You... you have got to be kidding me.
11:28 <Cepheid> Immortal Battlefield is just the Twin Labyrinths, rotated 90 degrees. Hall of Malice is just the Dimensional Corridor with a new theme.
11:28 <Cepheid> Hell Icefire Treetop is also Twin Labs.
11:29 <Cepheid> Front and backside on the same side, split horizontally.
11:31 <Cepheid> Shrine is Chamber of Birth. Combined with a ruins-wide version of the Temple of the Moon scanning puzzle.
11:31 <Cepheid> Hel is probably closest to... Hmm... I'd say Gate of Confusion. Only harsher.
11:31 <ConfusionRift> My problem with the cog is that while searching on that mess, you have a few who understand why would anyone would be stumped by it, and then there's the mass of people who make it seem like I'm a moron and so does everyone else.
11:32 <Cepheid> Welcome to how I felt with LM1 when I first played it.
11:33 <ConfusionRift> There's a hit to it really early on, but the hint for the mantras to get to it is on the freaking Hall of Malice. Once you get the cog, everything else starts falling apart.
11:34 * ConfusionRift is getting Fantastic Dizzy flashbacks, and he don't like it.
11:35 <Cepheid> Heh.
11:35 <Cepheid> I don't mind LM2. My biggest gripe with it has to do with the analysis I made of the game myself.
11:35 <Cepheid> LM2 is an extension, or expansion, of LM1.
11:35 <Cepheid> To the point that it's difficulty feels like it starts off where LM1 ended, and that the game even *EXPECTS* you to have finished LM1.
11:36 <ConfusionRift> I got a perfect example that fortifies that!
11:36 <Cepheid> There are puzzles which are quite obvious if you played LM1.
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11:38 <Cepheid> ...
11:38 <Cepheid> Oh no.
11:38 <Cepheid> Gods. Friggen. Damnit.
11:38 <Cepheid> I forgot to save after beating up Jormungand.
11:39 <ConfusionRift> In LM1, there's the... eeerm... Chi You! That (bleep). If you played LM1, you already know what happens once you beat him. An obvious, yet forgettable trap.
11:39 * Lumindia yeets
11:39 * Cepheid goes AFK to kill Jormungand.
11:40 <Cepheid> Oh gods, I even forgot to save after I bought the earth spears to kill him with.
11:40 <Cepheid> Geezus, what was I thinking?
11:40 <ConfusionRift> In LM2, there's a similar trap when fighting... weird Fido, I forget its name. Platform on top, you under it. You kill it, and you think "oh, easy, I just run to the side and it's all good"... no. The trap break in the middle and hits the sides.
11:41 <Cepheid> Let's not forget Jormungand himself.
11:41 * ConfusionRift rubs Cepheid's shoulders. "This one's easy in comparison to the previous ones. You got this." :P
11:42 <Cepheid> Anyone who's defeated Palenque..
11:42 <ConfusionRift> Yeah, he's just Palenque 2.0.
11:42 <Cepheid> Only harder.
11:42 <ConfusionRift> I didn't really found it that hard, just tedious with the spears/
11:43 <ConfusionRift> You CAN hit it with the rapier, but it's waaaay too picky to do, and you get a small window for that.
11:43 <Cepheid> Dangit, killed him, jumped too soon.
11:44 <ConfusionRift> wait... did I get lucky on that one?
11:45 <Cepheid> There we go.
11:45 <Cepheid> Hmm?
11:46 <ConfusionRift> It had an extra thing after killing it?
11:46 <Cepheid> Oh, yeah.
11:46 <Cepheid> You remember how Palenque suicides?
11:47 <Cepheid> Er, suicide bombs*
11:47 <ConfusionRift> HAH! I got lucky!
11:47 <Cepheid> If you get hit by Jormungand's vehicle after he jumps off of it, it's instant-death.
11:48 <ConfusionRift> Aah, I think I was in midair after he got hit by the last spear. so i just dodged the whole thing without knowing it.
11:50 <Cepheid> More likely you thought he needed another whack or two. The game slows after you get the last hit in, like it does with every boss. Then speeds back to normal. You probably thought something was up, and went to jump and attack, and just happened to time it right. :P
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11:51 <Cepheid> Anyhow, I think the biggest gripe people have with LM2 is the spike pinball.
11:51 <Cepheid> Or general pinballing.
11:51 <Cepheid> Ye gods, it's easy to take a lot of damage in this game.
11:51 <ConfusionRift> AKA the Sonic 1 glitch.
11:53 <ConfusionRift> In the first game (version 1), there was a glitch that if you hit a spike, you would lose your rings and all i-frames. So if you were in a bed of spikes, you would recoil on the first hit, and die on the second.
11:53 * Cepheid re-obtains the feather.
11:53 <ConfusionRift> SAVE!
11:53 <ConfusionRift> SAVE NOW!
11:53 * Cepheid saves.
11:54 * Cepheid goes to his most-hated area. Ironically, not the Underworld.
11:54 <Cepheid> Though, pretty close, based on the name. Gate of the Dead.
11:55 <ConfusionRift> I was gonna mention that I just remember throwing that last spear, him falling over, and straight to the hole. I WAS panicking, because I thought he was gonna suicide rush, but no. Just keeling over into the hole, and the controls locking.
11:56 * Cepheid demonstrates why he hates Gate of the Dead by doing the "One and only one survives" puzzle, doing it right, but getting hit into the Instant Death beams by a barely visible pharoah head.
11:56 <ConfusionRift> So maybe I twitch jumped, or the bike fell over while I was in the air.
11:56 * ConfusionRift sighs. "That was a really obvious, yet illusive one.
11:58 <ConfusionRift> I thought you had to active all the dais, except the one under the standing statue. NOPE! The other way around. Thought of the Gate of Illusion.
11:59 <ConfusionRift> Oh, and Unicorn can suck it.
11:59 <Cepheid> Heh.
11:59 * Cepheid goes to draw the symbols of the dark star lord panel.
11:59 <Cepheid> ... Actually nah. *Screenshot*
12:01 <Cepheid> The other thing I hate about the Gate is all the enemies. Too many, and too many that can just jump through platforms or, you know, ignore walls altogether.
12:02 <ConfusionRift> And then there's that ONE pot...
12:03 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Comic: New Princess / Payoff / The Future 5 / New Beginnings 1 [ http://tinyurl.com/w6kwabf ]
12:04 <Cepheid> Let's see, we got the asps. They can climb ladders, run back and forth, and are hard to hit due to their speed.
12:04 <Cepheid> Then we got the little men, who can jump up and down among platforms and do so incessantly if you're anywhere near them above or below.
12:04 <Cepheid> Then we got the masks, who start off completely transparent, fade in slowly, and start spinning and causing trouble.
12:04 <ConfusionRift> The red caps, which can jump to hit you, jump to higher platforms, and- that, that's them.
12:04 <Cepheid> Then the medjed, who literally just warps to right in front of you, no matter where you are.
12:05 <Cepheid> Every enemy can move through the damned platforms or walls at will.
12:05 <Cepheid> And yes, there's those pots.
12:06 <ConfusionRift> There's the pot that falls after the first invertion gate near the guardian door. And there's one that relies on you making a wrong slide down, and will ALWAYS land on you once you make it down.
12:07 <Cepheid> ...
12:07 * Cepheid forgets to scan the gate of the dead pede- Wait, he saved at it. *Reloads*
12:07 <ConfusionRift> How did you...? Wait, huh?
12:08 <Cepheid> I keep forgetting to scan all the warp tablets.
12:08 <Cepheid> You don't have to scan them to save.
12:08 <ConfusionRift> Oh right, it's warping.
12:08 <ConfusionRift> You can't warp to it or continue from it if you don't scan it.
12:09 <Cepheid> Yes.
12:17 * Cepheid makes note: Text/Image recording function in his game will have practically unlimited space. It's set in the future, and smartphones can take more than 20-30 pictures in general.\
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12:23 <Cepheid> Need only place a slight weight. Hum...
12:24 * ConfusionRift sneezes.
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12:25 <Cepheid> I actually can't recall this puzzle's solution.
12:26 * ConfusionRift sneezes again.
12:26 <Cepheid> ... Pepper.
12:26 <Cepheid> I knew the Pepper was for something.
12:26 <Cepheid> Too bad I can't afford it.
12:26 <ConfusionRift> There you go. :P
12:26 <ConfusionRift> Oh...
12:26 * Cepheid goes to Frost Giants place.
12:27 <Cepheid> Oh, right. I have to melt the ice first.
12:28 * Cepheid goes to Annwyn, then.
12:29 <ConfusionRift> Remember to have Mulbruk check other places.
12:29 <Cepheid> Can always use more sacred orbs.
12:30 <Cepheid> I love sending her to the Corridor of Blood.
12:30 <ConfusionRift> "No no no. This is freaky. Screw that! Going home!"
12:32 <Cepheid> "Where is this?" I know this tablet is important.
12:33 <ConfusionRift> Is it near a pit of lava?
12:33 * Cepheid grabs flare guns. "Yeah, I know what the puzzle is. There's a passage here. It's opened under certain conditions, I don't recall which ones."
12:34 <ConfusionRift> There are certain "words" you need to know in order to get to it.
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12:38 * Cepheid goes to Valhalla to poke the Corridor of Blood.
12:42 <Cepheid> As if telling me I should go and get ready, my controller's batteries are running low.
12:42 * Cepheid has to run off to clinic to get prescription refills, then has to head off to get sample containers, and bloodwork done.
12:43 * Cepheid saves. Runs off to shower.
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13:01 <Cepheid> Back.
13:02 <Cepheid> But yeah, the "where is this" puzzle is obscure. The tablet is unusual though in its placement and message. I ended up embedding that spot in my head.
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13:14 * ConfusionRift nods.
13:15 <ConfusionRift> It's hinting to something you can only access waaaay later though. Also, the hint on what to chant there is even further away.
13:16 <Cepheid> To be honest, the tablets having hints way out of the way isn't new.
13:16 <Cepheid> So I have no complaints.
13:17 <Cepheid> If anything, arguably, the tablets stuff was made a bit easier through the race scanner.
13:17 <Cepheid> Because as long as you know what race exists in each area, you can associate tablets with those areas. Narrows them down a bit.
13:19 * ConfusionRift sighs. "I'm a fool I suppose. A really lucky fool."
13:26 <Cepheid> I didn't really think about it until this run myself.
13:26 <ConfusionRift> Yes, there's that one Olympian that made its way somehow, which kinda hints to something being off. And there's the tablet saying something about the dragon that bit the infernal beast, binding them into one. Which you would know if you noticed the animals shown on each tablet according to their areas.
13:26 <Cepheid> But yeah. Race scanner can help you associate tablets with areas. Not perfect, but it works.
13:28 <ConfusionRift> In other words, one has to pay attention to every single detail. Aside from scanning monuments, also look at the tiny details that one passes by. Those are the ones that kill a run.
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13:31 <Cepheid> It isn't a critical thing though. Really, it would be more helpful to have unlimited notes.
13:32 <Cepheid> It legitimately makes no sense to limit them in LM2. I don't know of any phones or tablets that can only take up to 30 pictures.
13:36 <Cepheid> I plan to pretty much limit it to "however much your system can handle"
13:37 <Cepheid> It isn't hard, either. Just store the number of registered notes in the save file, followed by a list of integers, each indicating the note scanned. Position on the save file list is the position used in the ingame list.
13:38 <Cepheid> Well, I say note, but I mean scannable object.
13:41 <Cepheid> Oooh. Ontario gov3rnment is gonna try to fix the mental health accessibility issue. Course, doesnt erase the fact that they made it several times worse in the first place.
13:52 <ConfusionRift> Wait. Has it always been the case in Factorio of shotgun shells acting like mags? As in, they don't count as individual shells, but rather a container of many?
13:54 <Cepheid> Yes.
13:55 <ConfusionRift> Hmm. I suppose I wasn't paying attention to that.
13:56 * ConfusionRift mocks. "Oh noooo, my immersioooooon."
13:57 <Cepheid> Heh. Well think of it as running around holding a box of shells ala DOOM and quickly reloading the shotgun.
14:01 * ConfusionRift grabs a bunch of shells, opens the chamber, throws them on the shotgun, and closes it. Probably only one got in. :P
14:02 <Cepheid> There is a DOOM engine game that actually does that.
14:02 * ConfusionRift nods. :P
14:03 <Cepheid> To reload, the guy opens the gun, then trabs a handful of slugs, and just presses them up against the chamber.
14:04 <ConfusionRift> There's also a mod that adds a shotgun that has like 12 barrels (side by side), and when he reloads, he loads up each chamber one by one.
14:07 <ConfusionRift> They should add more of those to FPS games. I have only seen Battlefield do it.
14:08 <Cepheid> Yep.
14:08 <Cepheid> The battlefield ones are weird. Cool, but weird.
14:09 <Cepheid> Closest that comes to the weirdness these days is the Borderlands series with some of it's rare guns. And the guns you reload by tossing them as a grenade.
14:10 <ConfusionRift> Tediore guns, which changed on the third one. They can also be firing drones, bouncing explosives, or chasing mines.
14:11 <Cepheid> The third game is being released on steam soon. I'll have to save up money.
14:12 <Cepheid> Course, I have no qualms with running the EGS app, so it's moot.
14:12 <Cepheid> My PC isn't really used for much outside of gaming. And if I do work on it, it's usually under Linux these days.
14:12 * ConfusionRift got it on console.
14:13 <ConfusionRift> Everyone else did, so I guess I followed that train.
14:13 <Cepheid> I have a powerful enough PC. If anything it is more powerful than a PS4 Pro.
14:13 <ConfusionRift> I just have a standard one.
14:14 <Cepheid> Truth told the whole EGS thing just brings me back to the start of Steam.
14:14 <ConfusionRift> As for my PC... well... we could say it's also more powerful than the other consoles.
14:14 <Cepheid> People had a problem with Steam back then. Didn't want to install it just to play Half-life 2. Now the damned thing is ubiquitous.
14:16 <Cepheid> Ij fact I don't really understand the problem. I've looked at and read through the EULA and privacy statements of EGS, Steam and GOG.
14:16 <Cepheid> They are all basically the same.
14:16 <Cepheid> All three collect data. Especiamly about what websites you visit, what services you use, etc.
14:18 * ConfusionRift whispers. "Everyone's doing that now. Everyone."
14:18 <Cepheid> If anything GOG is the worst about it. They not only express their stuff in legal terms, but they also express it in "simplified" terms which may not be 100% accurate.
14:18 <Cepheid> So the s8mplified version may be misleading or hide some important detail.
14:19 <Cepheid> And yeah. Everyone practically collects data. Antivirus software is pr9bably the worst about it
14:20 <Cepheid> Because, yeah, it protects you. But there is no guarantee that while it is scanning your files, it isn't somehow collecting data to send off.
14:20 <Cepheid> Avast has become known and troublesome for such crap. Used to be the best antivirus out there. Now it's doing malicious crap
14:21 <ConfusionRift> Every new game I have seen so far has this. You're immediately plastered with a EULA on startup, and the first paragraph is usually about data collection.
14:22 <Cepheid> Turns out, data collection is profitable.
14:22 <ConfusionRift> It is. Information sells.
14:23 <Cepheid> If I collected data in my game, it would be data explicitly related to the game itself.
14:23 <ConfusionRift> Like error logs, no?
14:24 <Cepheid> That is, how long they took, average amount of money, most used weapon(s), a room-by-room path they took throughout the game. How many times they got a game over, what boss they died against the most.
14:24 <Cepheid> Data that is of use for future development.
14:25 <Cepheid> Error logs... those are tricky, but yes. I would want those too.
14:25 <Cepheid> In any case, all data would have to be manually uploaded.
14:25 <Lumindia> an opt in thing?
14:25 <Cepheid> As in, you would explicitly have to go through the options menu and select an option to upload it
14:26 <Cepheid> Not an opt-in option or switch. An actual button with at least one confirmation dialog.
14:26 <Cepheid> The data would be recorded automatically, but it would not be sent anywhere until you explicitly choose to do so. The recorded data would be visible to the player for kicks.
14:28 <Cepheid> Basically a statistics display. And a map view to show all the motion in a given save slot.
14:28 <Lumindia> ah
14:29 <Cepheid> Since some folks like seeing that mind of stuff for their own purposes anyway.
14:29 <Cepheid> Kind*
14:35 <Cepheid> Nothing like seeing how many times you died against a given boss. Or what your top three favourite primary and secondary weapons are.
14:35 <Cepheid> ... apparently it is -62 degrees where my sister is.
14:37 * ConfusionRift awaits for Satisfactory.
14:38 <Cepheid> Mmhmm.
14:38 <Cepheid> I want to check that out myself.
14:39 <Cepheid> But I probably won't be able to play it too much.
14:42 <Lumindia> I love useless statistics like that
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14:58 * Cepheid does breathing exercises. Just exploded at my mother.
14:58 <Cepheid> I was trying to resolve some confusion with the pharmacy but kept trying to talk in my stead. I got fed up with her and told her "Stop speaking for me." In a stern tone.
15:01 <Cepheid> Much as I love my parents, they are a great source of stress and frustration with respect to my mental health.
15:01 <Cepheid> I can't wait to move out. Assuming I even can. Whether or not I can afford it isn't the problem. My mother in particular seems reliant on my presence.
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15:44 <Cepheid> <Mother> It says take this pill twice a day. *Its the medication I take 2 tablets a night for*
15:44 <Cepheid> She seriously made this into a real issue. I mean... seriously? Think about it for more than 15 ****ing seconds.
15:44 <Cepheid> Gods.
15:45 * Cepheid is twitchy.
15:51 <Cepheid> Bleh... I don't feel like working today. Between the agitation and grogginess/weakness, I just don't have the energy.
16:16 <Cepheid> So LM2 it is.
16:21 * PrincessRainbows sniffs the ConfusionRift and drapes a blanket over him
16:28 <ConfusionRift> I'm not tired. I'm no- (flops and snores)
16:28 <ConfusionRift> I honestly completely lost track. I should crash. Laters!
16:28 *** Quits: ConfusionRift (ConfusionRi@Pony-il7.irn.56.193.IP) (Quit: Recharging the batteries. Laters! *shutdown*)
16:34 <PrincessRainbows> Such a good horse
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16:52 *** PrincessRainbows is now known as MaredoggieRainbows
16:55 * MaredoggieRainbows runs around barking and licking pones
17:03 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Makenshi: Lo-fi Album: Steryotype - '04 EP [Lo-fi] [ http://tinyurl.com/uxzs2pn ]
17:58 *** [AFK]____ is now known as PurePurple
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18:02 *** ChanServ sets mode: +qo Ali Ali
18:08 * Ali boops the Schism and Starlight_Glimmer
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18:12 * Ali boops ADragonDreaming
18:13 <Ali> Boops for all!
18:24 <Cepheid> But not for me. I might be contagious with something now, thanks to my dad.
18:25 <Ali> OH NOES
18:26 * Ali boops Cepheid anyway~ She beat Factorio in under thirty hours
18:26 <Cepheid> Nice.
18:26 <Ali> I was 5:01 short of sub 29..
18:27 <Ali> Just the map's lack of iron really hurt that
18:27 <Ali> Had two separate iron patches being fed to the belt system and it just can't keep up.
18:27 <Ali> Also
18:27 <Ali> Artilery sucks
18:28 <Ali> Like why is its explosion radius so small?
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18:34 * MaredoggieRainbows scratches at her collar before licking Ali till she's dripping
18:34 * Ali boops MaredoggieRainbows and snuggles with her.
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19:03 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Drawfriend Stuff (Pony Art Gallery) #3270 [ http://tinyurl.com/svzxcar ]
19:32 * MaredoggieRainbows barks happily and does tricks for Ali
19:33 * Ali gives MaredoggieRainbows treats and brushies
19:34 * MaredoggieRainbows noms and rolls around
19:48 <Ali> Gotta love anime logic
19:48 <Ali> Previous episode. The X Tornado susstained heavy damage
19:49 <Ali> Next episode, it takes off 20 minutes later perfectly fine.
19:54 <Lumindia> well we don't know what the timeskip was
19:55 * Ali flops over Lumindia. "Talking about time skips, that's coming."
19:55 * Lumindia brushes Ali
19:56 <Lumindia> p o n y
19:56 * Ali boops the Lumindia just to make sure they got booped today.
19:56 * Lumindia falls over, flailyhooves
19:56 <Lumindia> Waaaa
20:01 * Ali bellyrubs Lumindia
20:01 * Lumindia flailyhooves more!
20:06 * Ali then flops off for staff stuff.
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21:03 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Makenshi: Pinkie Music: VocalScorePony - Pinkie Sense! [Acoustic] [ http://tinyurl.com/yx7lpjun ]
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21:13 * Starlight_Glimmer cuddles into Ali's side
21:13 <Starlight_Glimmer> Soo much work, so little time ...
21:17 * Lumindia pets GlimGlam
21:17 <Lumindia> :D
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22:38 <Finwe> o3o
22:38 <Finwe> Good evening, my smallish pastel-coloured equines.
22:39 <Finwe> Mlles Ali, Filly_Nightmares and DashedRainbows; Messrs Lumindia, Cepheid, Schism and Starlight_Glimmer.
22:39 * Finwe doffs his hat.
22:39 <Finwe> !twilight time
22:39 <DerpyBot> It's not Twilight time right now, silly!
22:39 * Filly_Nightmares meows
22:39 <Finwe> !starlight time
22:39 <Finwe> Starlight time! Starlight time!
22:39 * Finwe bounces around in front of Starlight_Glimmer.
22:40 * Finwe returns home from the cinema.
22:41 <Finwe> We watched the modern adaptation of one of H.P. Lovecraft's short stories, viz. Colour out of Space.
22:41 <Finwe> Or "Color Out of Space", like the film is called.
22:43 * Finwe drops a purplish meteor into Schism's well.
22:57 * Schism phews.
22:57 <Schism> There are few things which will bring customers out of the woodwork. In my case, that involves a release of a 30% off sale which has fine print which, by necessity, means that 30% off does not include the most popular items.
22:59 <Schism> Many of said customers are capable of, if not reading ahead, then at least understanding when the terms and conditions of an offer specifically do not apply to 30 $50 pieces of apparel which we normally have no trouble at all selling.
22:59 <Schism> Some are... less understanding.
23:01 <Schism> And then there are those for whom 'understanding' means, 'I understand that I'm feeling quite a bit put out and you should give me free stuff for this inconvenience.'
23:01 <Schism> I think this is the second time in five months that I've been cursed out, at least.
23:03 <Schism> 8 oz. bottle of Purell is on Amazon.com for the low, low price of $89. What is wrong with people?
23:03 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Pony Plushie Compilation #388 [ http://tinyurl.com/v7cjs7m ]
23:13 <Lumindia> https://i.imgur.com/zFUf7Xv.png Who gave the fairies chainguns?
23:16 <Schism> WELP. https://twitter.com/jamesdnicoll/status/1235697125838684160
23:17 <Schism> Thankfully: "Hospital staff reportedly "took all necessary precautions," and the woman was released from hospital with mild symptoms. She is self-isolating at home."
23:22 <Schism> Living 5 minutes from Grand River Hospital, though, doesn't make me feel much at ease.
23:23 * MaredoggieRainbows licks Finwe till he's dripping
23:24 * Schism boops the MaredoggieRainbows with a chicken bacon ranch sub sandwich.
23:41 * Ali licks Schism
23:42 * Schism considers the Ali, then offers some regular chicken strips with sweet and sour sauce. Also, a light apple-and-pear salad.
23:42 * Ali boops Schism as she's not hungry, just got backs from eats
23:43 * Schism wonders what the Ali got. Also, ish bleh still. "Work was... egh. From the moment that new code was released, back to back chats until the second shift came in."
23:43 * Ali ponyshrugs and snuggles Schism regardless, also she beat Factorio sub 30h
23:47 <Schism> Yay! Congrats.
23:48 <Schism> Less happily, Ali, we're now a potentially 'at risk' area.
23:48 <Ali> Isn't everywhere that now
23:48 <Schism> By which I mean 'one confirmed case', but we know how these things spread.
23:48 <Ali> And I'm dealing with busted pipes as well
23:48 <Schism> augh!
23:49 <Schism> On the other hand, the US doesn't give people time off for sickness, so you can get those fixed! *waves a tiny yay flag*
23:58 * Cepheid coughs a lot around Schiusm.
23:59 * Schism jumps into a pool of hand sanitizer. It's just isopropyl and aloe, how much could it hurt?
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