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00:24 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Comics: Rarity and Dragons / Darkness Within 3-4 / New Beginnings #6 / Await a Guardiant #28 / Smolder's Birthday #1 [ http://tinyurl.com/s8h9amw ]
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00:33 <ADragonDreaming> Haghsprecht
00:35 <ADragonDreaming> the Work From Home for the dragon begins.
01:36 * Ali flops into Schism and ADragonDreaming
01:48 * Ali puts a trashcan hat on ADragonDreaming
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02:04 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Nightly Discussion #2060 [ http://tinyurl.com/vvhoymx ]
02:16 <Schism> Dimensional corridor... evil...
02:17 * Surreal_Nightmares meow
02:17 *** Surreal_Nightmares is now known as Filly_Nightmares
02:18 * Ali licks Schism nosie
02:19 * Filly_Nightmares licks Ali
02:19 * Ali feeds Filly_Nightmares mango
02:19 * Filly_Nightmares nom noms Ali!
02:26 <Schism> Aha, THERE's where the Anchor was.
02:31 * Ali bouncies in front of Schism, its hard to get their attentions
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02:31 * Filly_Nightmares bounces wif Ali at Schism!
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02:42 <ADragonDreaming> snorble?
02:45 <Ali> Eh?
02:46 <Ali> I just was hoping for more SV to learns but seems like da Schism is too busy in da randomizer
02:47 <ADragonDreaming> today has been a tiring one for mes.
02:48 <ADragonDreaming> but maybe tomorrow
02:48 <ADragonDreaming> I work from home now so.
02:48 <Ali> Well in my solo play I'm up to floor 50 in the mines
02:49 <Ali> and at midpoint summer
02:49 <Ali> But not quite sure if I'm doing that great but I don't feel like I'm doing poorly.
02:49 <Schism> HELMET! FINALLY, the Helmet! Gwarrrrgh. And sorry. Am indeed...
02:49 <ADragonDreaming> You're probably doing just fine.
02:50 <Ali> Well I'm trying to stay mostly blind
02:50 <ADragonDreaming> I will say that I would almost prefer a more cooperative farm in multiplay.
02:50 <ADragonDreaming> or, rather, not almost.
02:50 <Ali> I've made a few mistakes, but I have upgraded a good bit of my tools to copper
02:50 <Ali> What do you mean by that? The joined wallets?
02:50 <ADragonDreaming> aye.
02:50 <Ali> I mean there's a way around that
02:51 <Ali> You can bin stuff in a chest and then sell it from there
02:52 <Ali> I will say getting down into the mines is going to suck
02:52 <Ali> Fought most of those junky mobs with the upgraded sword you find, it starts taking a lot of hits to kill some of those things
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03:03 <Ali> Do beehouses work without flowers?
03:03 <Schism> I believe so.
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03:28 <Ali> Well, Thunderstorms in SV are creepy to me
03:29 <Schism> Good time to catch fish tho. o3o
03:33 <Jackie> Is ChanServ buggy
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03:52 * Schism goes to sleep now. "Not bad. All that's left is Tiamat and Mother."
04:04 <Ali> How am I supposed to buy animals if the stupid seller won't stay behind her dang desk. *puffycheeks*
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04:46 <ConfusionRift> Hello everypony.
04:48 * Ali flops onto the ConfusionRift
04:49 * ConfusionRift patpats Ali. :P
04:50 * Ali mews and leans into the ConfusionRift
04:50 <Ali> Dere be options if Factorio is a fing for youz
04:51 <ConfusionRift> o_0
04:51 <Ali> I don't wanna ping them but this is what they said. Same address and passwords as the previous one. One is on port 27025, that's the vanilla server and the other is on port 27026. That's the Krastorio 2 server, with a few QoL mods.
04:52 <ConfusionRift> And... which are you guys in? :P
04:53 <Ali> Niether, he was too sick feeling to start on either
04:54 <ConfusionRift> Oh. Okaday.
04:55 <Ali> I'm just a bit lonely and not much going on right now
04:56 <ConfusionRift> Still eating, but will jump in a bit.
04:56 <Ali> Well poke me first ok
04:56 * ConfusionRift nods.
04:57 <Ali> Also the character GUI changed so be ready for that
04:57 <ConfusionRift> Oh. Got implemented already.
04:58 <Ali> .18.13
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05:12 <Jackie> I wish I can make a game without needing a degree
05:13 <ConfusionRift> You can.
05:19 <ConfusionRift> You just need the tools and some of the know-how.
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05:24 <ConfusionRift> Alriiiight. (boops Ali)
05:24 * Ali squeaks softly. "Vanilla I'd take it?"
05:24 <ConfusionRift> Up to you.
05:25 <Ali> I'd prefer to stick to Vanilla since I don't know what mods Ceph has planned for the other and what it might change.
05:25 <ConfusionRift> I got no issue with either or. The only thing is I'm not familiar with Krastorio. What I know is that it changed the starting progress.
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05:47 <ConfusionRift> ...
05:47 <Ali> I see you has derps
05:47 <ConfusionRift> I disconnected.
05:48 <Ali> I see dat :P
05:48 <ConfusionRift> Are you still on?
05:48 <Ali> Yeah I'm still on
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06:13 <Jackie> https://twitter.com/SymphonyDawn3/status/1240158293969920001?s=20
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07:18 * PrincessRainbows finally flops on Ali making sleepy little horse noises
07:18 * Ali brushies the PrincessRainbows and hopes she slept well
07:20 * PrincessRainbows grabs her pacifier and hugs Ali tight, to sleep
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09:38 <Jackie> Schism, since you're from Texas
09:38 <Jackie> There are like 254 counties lol
10:11 <Cepheid> Morning.
10:21 <ConfusionRift> Hallo.
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10:33 <Cepheid> I did not sleep well. Coughing woke me up.
10:37 <ConfusionRift> That sucks. It's been like that, with the weather here.
10:46 <Cepheid> It's just the usual congestion for me.
10:52 <Schism> Jackie: I'm not from Texas, just lived there a while.
10:52 <Jackie> Oh
10:52 * Schism awakens, preparing for work.
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10:57 <Ali> Cepheid, did you plan this garbage roll for the vanilla server?
10:58 <Ali> Making due, but its been a odd one
10:58 <Cepheid> Nope.
10:58 <Cepheid> I have absolutely no idea what it looks like.
10:59 <Ali> It was pretty garbo at first, but have made it work out
11:00 <Cepheid> I'll be on shortly. Morning routine, then I am gonna take a shower and shave.
11:02 <Ali> You're fine, no rush
11:04 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Morning Discussion #1875 [ http://tinyurl.com/vbcyr66 ]
11:05 <Cepheid> Oh, I contacted the ER about getting tested. Not bothering. Not enough symptoms.
11:07 <Cepheid> I just have coughing, breathing troubles, and an intermittent fever. Not enough for them to be interested in checking. The fever is the big thing.
11:09 <Cepheid> Current temp is 97.8. Last night it was 99.9. Doesn't stay up.
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11:13 <Cepheid> Surreal_Nightmares: I demand a dupe named after me. Digger.
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11:22 <Cepheid> Normally, I don't say stuff like this because I feel that the sentiment makes me no better than the relevant people, but racist people can go die in a fire that burns like hell, but takes decades to kill them.
11:36 * Ali hugs the Cepheid
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11:38 <Cepheid> It's like... friggen come on. The world needs to band together. Don't bloody stoke the flames of hatred.
11:39 <Cepheid> Don't go around calling the virus the "<REDACTED> flu." Don't go making articles expressing how the US's response is a result of white supremacy. Don't go making stuff that just fuels the flames. For <REDACTED> sake. Write articles about the good that people are doing, instead. Talk about how best to handle the situation, especially for people not used to months-long confinement, who are going to need help to stave off
11:39 <Cepheid> cabin fever..
11:40 <Cepheid> Geezus freakin' christ, what is *WRONG* with people?
11:41 <Cepheid> If you're gonna be ****s about it, go die in flames and save the world a bunch of trouble, please.
11:44 <Ali> Yeah, the media is not going to be helping
11:48 <Cepheid> I mean seriously, why even bring race into the explanations as to why things have gone to ****? Why not blame governments reactions instead, and leave race out of it?
11:49 <Cepheid> It's clear the reason the virus started spreading widely is because initially, the various governments either wanted to protect their own asses and reputations, or they didn't take it seriously.
11:49 <Cepheid> And then there's the people who either insist it's all a government conspiracy, a hoax, or that it's being blown out of proportion, and ignoring the rules.
11:49 <Ali> Cause China
11:50 <Cepheid> And this is happening in EVERY. COUNTRY.
11:50 <Ali> Now yes
11:50 <Ali> But I'm gonna hunker down too
11:50 <Cepheid> Race doesn't mattern. Nationality doesn't matter. It is entirely psychological in people.
11:51 * Surreal_Nightmares licks Cepheid
11:51 * Surreal_Nightmares giggles
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11:52 * Ali licks Filly_Nightmares and boops
11:53 <Cepheid> I'd like to say that had this virus started elsewhere, it'd have been better contained, but it's clear that's not the case. The US government would have wanted to protect it's own arse first, just like the Chinese government did. Canada, not so sure. Ontario's Ford Government definitely would have went the "Protect it's arse before the people." approach, for certain. Trudeau's Federal Government though.. Honestly, you'd
11:53 <Cepheid> be spinning a wheel and getting a random outcome.
11:54 * ConfusionRift huggles Ali. :P
11:54 <Cepheid> Italy, not sure what happened there. Everything seemed to progress so quickly, so I'm not sure if it was government inaction or just bad luck on their part.
11:54 <Ali> Who knows
11:56 <Cepheid> Fortunately, there's more good than bad out there right now. The bad only seems to be "outnumbering" the good because the Media keeps wanting to cover only the bad.
11:56 <Cepheid> There's no profit in covering the goodhearted nature of people.
11:58 <Lumindia> how many of you use GrubHub and the like?
11:59 <Lumindia> I got good news regarding COVID responses. https://www.thedailymeal.com/news/chains-free-delivery-service
11:59 <Ali> Of course not Cepheid, why would the media want people to know the world isn't imploding or how things might be better
11:59 * Ali does though, go to bed, up way too late.
11:59 <Lumindia> buncha restaurants are offering free contactless delivery in response
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11:59 <Lumindia> including UberEats and DoorDash online ordering services
12:00 <Cepheid> Yeah, same thing here in Ottawa.
12:00 <ConfusionRift> Oh yeah. They're starting to close doors to their lobby, so it's just drive-thru.
12:00 <Cepheid> Restaurants are not allowed to do in-house serving. If they do delivery, they can stay open though.
12:01 <Cepheid> So many restaurants that didn't do delivery or take-out before are now switching to providing it.
12:01 <Cepheid> Arguably, this is probably gonna be one of those changes that sticks to after the whole pandemic goes away.
12:01 <Cepheid> Because it'll increase business overall for these places.
12:02 <Cepheid> There's other benefits for the public, as well.
12:02 <Cepheid> Besides just, ye know, not having to go outside.
12:02 * ConfusionRift is still upset. "Still have to go to work as usual."
12:02 <Cepheid> There are people who are too afraid to go outside for one reason or another, and people who aren't able to go outside at all for one reason or another. More restaurants taking to delivery and take-out service means wider variety of such foods for such people.
12:03 <Cepheid> You work at a Walmart last I recall. No offense meant, but grocery stores and superstores that sell groceries are kind of a critical thing.
12:04 <Cepheid> People need food, people need water, people (arguably) need electricity. Three basic things, these are the areas that aren't going to be shutting down anytime soon. People working in these areas though should be getting overtime or some benefit though, for working through a quarantine.
12:04 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: What's "Hello Pinkie Pie"? [ http://tinyurl.com/vrfmt5t ]
12:04 <ConfusionRift> All the vultures took everything. There's nothing. We stock up, they show up at 5am, they take it all. People who are coming out from work and such get nothing, because they already took them.
12:05 <Cepheid> And that's why I'm saying anyone working in critical industries needs raises.
12:05 <Cepheid> You guys are doing all the work, but getting no benefit out of it.
12:06 <Cepheid> This is one area where yeah, unions would be a good thing.
12:06 <Cepheid> And this is coming from someone who is not a fan of unions.
12:08 <ConfusionRift> Water? Gone. Meats? Gone. Frozen stuffs? Taken. Snacks? Getting there. Paper? Forget it. Containers? They're taking those as well. Vitamins and immunity supplements? They FINALLY got the hint, and have taken them. Soaps, body wash, shampoos, and conditioners? GONE!
12:08 <Cepheid> Yes,
12:08 <Cepheid> Such is the nature of panic.
12:08 <ConfusionRift> It's really stupid.
12:08 <Cepheid> That's why I'm unhappy with how the Media is handling this. They're causing that particular problem.
12:09 <ConfusionRift> Media can go burn in the same pit. They have done nothing for us. Absolutely nothing.
12:09 <Cepheid> And before anyone comments on my negativity towards unions, please be aware that most of my experiences with unions has been negative. Mostly threats of firing or other negative effects. Only once has a union ever assisted me.
12:09 <Cepheid> Not the employers threatening me. The UNIONS.
12:10 <Lumindia> I bring up a positive thing, and y'all drag it right back down to the negative
12:10 <Lumindia> '-'
12:10 <ConfusionRift> Oh, by the way. Management now is keeping an even closer eye on associates, making things worse for everyone. And because we now close doors at 11pm, they have higher expectations from closers.
12:11 * ConfusionRift sighs. "You're right."
12:11 <Cepheid> Lumindia, sorry.
12:11 <Cepheid> The good thing with unions that happened with me was, ironically, at a grocery store.
12:11 * ConfusionRift huggles Lumindia.
12:11 <Cepheid> What happened was that I was the only Grocery stocking person on duty at the time.
12:11 * Lumindia flops
12:11 <Lumindia> meh, I'm just grumpy before I've gotten caffeine in me
12:11 <Cepheid> I was rushing around to all sorts of calls for assistance. Then one call comes in for grocery, so I go and answer it.
12:11 <Cepheid> I didn't know how to handle it.
12:12 <Cepheid> Minutes later, I get called from upper management, and get berated for handling the call.
12:12 <Cepheid> This was before I was on all my medications, like, before I was even diagnosed with any mental health problems.
12:12 <ConfusionRift> Lumindia: Are any of those services... any good? I have never used them. Not exactly trusting of such deliveries. Then again, probably no different than ordering pizza.
12:12 <Finwe> Good afternoon, everypony.
12:13 <Cepheid> Long story short, after getting berated, I had a severe panic attack. I was found sitting in the corner of the back room, rocking back and forth, crying and hyperventilating, by the union representative.
12:13 <Finwe> Lt Cdr ConfusionRift, Messrs Cepheid and Lumindia.
12:13 <Finwe> o7
12:13 <Finwe> Capt Koopz.
12:13 <Finwe> o7
12:13 <Cepheid> He dragged me off to the break room, asked what happened to put me in that situation, and told me to take however long I needed to recover there, and that he'd go and talk to upper management. I later get a call from upper management apologizing to me.
12:14 * Finwe hats on Filly_Nightmares.
12:14 <Lumindia> Confusion: I used GrubHub once after being stuck in a motel after a convention due to a sudden blizzard
12:14 <Lumindia> I was fairly pleased with how it worked
12:15 <Lumindia> yeah, it's basically no different than ordering pizza from what I remember
12:15 <Cepheid> Yeah, those delivery services have been mostly good.
12:15 <Cepheid> Only one case where the food arrived way too late. Arguably not the driver's fault.
12:15 <Cepheid> There's a problem with the street I live on.
12:15 <Cepheid> I live on Aspenview Way.
12:15 <Lumindia> I think I see where this is going
12:15 <Cepheid> Literally a few streets over, within spitting distance, is another street. Aspenview Circle.
12:15 <Lumindia> yep
12:16 <Lumindia> knew it
12:16 <Cepheid> It must have been a recent streetname change or something, because it's only become a problem within the last year.
12:16 <Lumindia> mixed the two of them up?
12:16 <Cepheid> Yeah, constantly.
12:16 <ConfusionRift> Cepheid: Know that experience, and yeah. Understand that feel. The only times I have been sent to the office have been on circumstances out of my control, and still haven't gotten no apology or concern for the problem.
12:16 <Cepheid> Packages and mail getting delivered to the wrong addresses all the time.
12:17 <Cepheid> It's gotten so frequent we're on speaking terms with the people living in 1752 Aspenview Circle.
12:17 <Lumindia> and now we know where you live.
12:17 <Cepheid> They regularly deliver stuff to us. We regularly deliver stuff to them.
12:17 <Cepheid> Yeah, and? I've shown it on a map before.
12:17 <Lumindia> first I'm learning of it
12:17 <Lumindia> '-'
12:17 * Lumindia boops
12:17 <Cepheid> I don't care if you people come and harass me. Go nuts.
12:17 <ConfusionRift> [target acquired]
12:17 <Cepheid> I could use some social interaction.
12:17 * ConfusionRift laughs.
12:17 * Lumindia stalks, does nothing but BOOP, thejn leaves
12:17 <Cepheid> Just do me the favour of making sure you're facing me when you speak.
12:18 <Cepheid> I read lips, and facing away from me drastically reduces the likelihood I'll understand what you said.
12:18 <Finwe> It's named Aspen Village Circle in Google Maps. o3o
12:19 * ConfusionRift clears his throat. "Buenos dias!" :P
12:19 <Cepheid> Oh?
12:19 <Cepheid> That makes even less sense, then.
12:19 <Cepheid> ... Oh. I know now.
12:19 <Cepheid> The neighborhood name, probably.
12:19 <Cepheid> But then, that'd result in more stuff arriving here than *THERE*.
12:19 <Cepheid> Even so...
12:20 <Cepheid> But yeah, we see a lot of people driving by ever so slowly. Multiple times. Trying to find an address.
12:20 <Cepheid> And then they either find the number, but not the right street, and either deliver the thing to the wrong address, thinking the street name was written down wrong, or they ring the doorbell thinking we're the destination.
12:21 <Cepheid> We once had a contractor come by telling us they were here to fix our bathtub drains. Wrooooong address.
12:21 <Cepheid> The biggest issue is the packages, though.
12:22 <Cepheid> My sister, living in Igloolik, orders a lot of packages to be delivered to our place, which are then sent off to her from our place. The reason being that it's extremely expensive to have shipments sent to her from Amazon and the like.
12:22 <Cepheid> Igloolik is extremely remote. They get shipments like, only every few days, and even then, the shipments themselves are limited in size.
12:23 <Cepheid> So it's cheaper to order a bunch of separate small items, have them delivered somewhere for cheap(or free, since she uses my Prime account with Amazon), and then package them all up and ship it all at once.
12:26 <Cepheid> Meanwhile, I have more concern for her wellbeing in this pandemic than my own. Unlike her, I at least have hospitals and clinics that can help try and treat me if need-be. Up there, the community is isolated, and doesn't have a proper hospital. Just a pharmacy, who acts as both a dispensary and a doctor. If anyone up there gets sick, it's going to be bad.
12:26 <Cepheid> Fortunately though, they're taking the situation seriously.
12:27 <Cepheid> The schools have all been closed down.
12:28 <ConfusionRift> All of them are closed down over here... except for one.
12:28 <Cepheid> Dangit, Lumindia. Now I'm craving delivery food.
12:28 <ConfusionRift> I am too. Curses!
12:28 <ConfusionRift> :P
12:29 <Cepheid> Yep, lotta new restaurants doing delivery for here.
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12:29 <Cepheid> ... Why is Mongolian Village listed under "Japanese"?
12:30 <Cepheid> Oh.
12:30 <Cepheid> Because it serves Japanese foods.
12:30 <Jackie> According to grammat
12:30 <Cepheid> ... *Psyduck face*
12:30 <Jackie> *grammar
12:31 <Jackie> The verb alone is the only miminal valid sentence
12:31 * Cepheid comes across something new in this game. Also apologizes, his anger earlier is causing him to vent in a different game.
12:31 <Cepheid> Jump.
12:31 <Cepheid> Yep
12:31 <Cepheid> A verb, by itself, can be seen as a command.
12:31 <Cepheid> Run. Jump. Stand. Sit.
12:31 <Cepheid> All verbs, all are read as commands.
12:32 <Jackie> Boop.
12:32 <Jackie> I think boop should be a verb
12:33 <Cepheid> Probably is in some dictionary. Definitely Urban Dictionary.
12:33 <Jackie> Urban Dictionary doesn't really categorize word class
12:34 <Jackie> Like is LMAO a verb, interjection, noun etv
12:34 <Jackie> *etc
12:34 <Lumindia> Go
12:35 <Jackie> I mean slangs aren't technically interjections
12:35 <Jackie> Like shitpost
12:35 <Jackie> That's a noun I guess lol
12:35 <Jackie> Also a verb
12:35 <Cepheid> "LMAO" is actually an acronym for a full sentence.
12:35 <Cepheid> "Laughing my ass(arse) off."
12:35 <Cepheid> It's not a word, directly.
12:36 <Finwe> An abbreviation, I'd say.
12:36 <Jackie> I mean do slangs actually get classified
12:36 <Jackie> Like brony is a noun, right?
12:37 <Cepheid> So, something new was added to this game. I've never seen it before. Went to poke it, it killed me. Eventually.
12:37 <Finwe> Jackie: Yup, and moreover, a portmanteau.
12:38 <Jackie> A what?
12:38 <Finwe> A portmanteau. A kind of a telescopic word.
12:38 <Finwe> In this case, brother + pony -> brony.
12:39 <Jackie> In other words combining words
12:40 <Cepheid> A portmanteau is basically a mashing of two words together, usually comprised of syllables from both words.
12:41 <Cepheid> You have a Man, you have the concept of a Con. A man who performs cons, is called a conman. Though in this case, "conman" is an actual word listed in dictionaries, but could also be seen as a portmanteau.
12:42 <Cepheid> https://twitter.com/LuminousOcean/status/1240255080424779784 Thing I found in game. https://twitter.com/LuminousOcean/status/1240256524846542850 What it gave me after one death and lots of fighting. Not complaining.
12:42 <Finwe> confidence + man -> conman
12:42 <Finwe> A man who performs confidence tricks.
12:42 <Jackie> These are like compound nouns.
12:42 <Jackie> Also it's like Japanese thing too.
12:43 <Jackie> You combine two or more kanji to make meaning.
12:43 <Cepheid> Finwe: Yeah, that works too.
12:44 <Cepheid> Yeah, Japanese does it a lot, Jackie. I see it a lot on Twitter.
12:44 * Cepheid follows a large amount of Japanese artists.
12:44 <Finwe> That's what a con man is. A confidence trickster.
12:44 <Cepheid> And some gamers.
12:45 <Jackie> Like what do you call ame + dog
12:45 <Jackie> Water dog?
12:45 <Jackie> Er
12:46 <Jackie> ame + inu
12:46 <Jackie> I forgot the kanji for water lol
12:46 <Cepheid> Finwe: I won't argue it, as I'm not a linguist, but either way, both explanations express the reasoning. It's basically multiple transformations being applied. "Confidence trick" or "Confidence game" is shortened to "con", and then applied to "man" to create "conman", or "a man who performs confidence tricks" or "a man who performs confidence games."
12:46 <Cepheid> ame is rain.
12:47 <Cepheid> mizu is water.
12:47 <Cepheid> So the former is "rain dog"
12:47 <Cepheid> My advice for learning Japanese, Jackie?
12:47 <Cepheid> There's a series of books, if you can afford them(Or find them elsewhere), called Genki. They're used in formal education.
12:47 <Cepheid> You can also use Tim Kae's guide.
12:48 <Jackie> I'm using that lol
12:48 <Jackie> Like 3 weeks ago?
12:48 <Cepheid> For learning Kanji, start slowly. Learn a few kanji over a few weeks.
12:48 <Jackie> and still am.
12:48 <Jackie> I don't use a kanji learning platform lol
12:48 <Cepheid> Also print yourself up some kanji and kana practice sheets.
12:48 <Cepheid> I'm just advising based on experience from formal learning.
12:49 <Jackie> Nah, I practice it on a good old notebook using a technical pen
12:49 <Cepheid> You want to learn a few kanji over a couple of weeks to start. As you get the hang of recognizing them, and learning their meanings, you can increase the number you learn slowly.
12:49 <Jackie> I'm learning Katakana before kanji btw
12:49 <Cepheid> That works too, but practice sheets might be better, especially if they have guides for practicing.
12:49 <Cepheid> Yeah, smart idea.
12:49 <Cepheid> Learn katakana and hiragana first.
12:50 <Jackie> I mean Katakana can give you vocabulary right away
12:50 <Cepheid> Hiragana's better for that.
12:50 <Cepheid> Katakana is used for foreign words and foreign names.
12:50 <Cepheid> Hiragana is what's used for everyday Japanese words.
12:50 <Jackie> Well, there's a lot of non kanji words
12:50 <Cepheid> And a lot of foreign words, yes.
12:51 <Cepheid> That said, kanji is still important. You'll want to start studying it at some point. For now, stick with hiragana and katakana, and learn the basics. Spend a few months practicing.
12:51 <Cepheid> Then maybe start on some simple kanji. If you want, I can provide the list of kanji that Genki uses.
12:51 * Cepheid has the first book, which is enough for 60 or so kanji.
12:52 <Cepheid> And these ones are the ones that you SHOULD learn first as a foreigner. Using the Japanese listing of kanji that students should know by grade 1, 2, 3 and so on, is not a good idea as a foreigner.
12:52 <Cepheid> Because some of them are extremely complex. Upwards of 20 strokes.
12:52 <Jackie> Can say that I'm learning Japanese informally, because I completely rely on online resources, a notebook and pen, a jisho.org dictionary (has kanji too) etc
12:52 <Jackie> I look up common japanese phrases
12:53 <Jackie> and words too
12:53 <Jackie> Cepheid, is the grade 1, 80 kanji useful?
12:54 <Jackie> I'm learning Kanji by grade, and it is a subset of Joyou kanji
12:56 <Cepheid> Using the Japanese school system kanji, I'd say it'd be a bad idea.
12:56 <Cepheid> I'd arguably use a foreigner listing instead.
12:57 <Cepheid> The problem is that, as you are learning the language as a SECOND(or third, or fourth) language later in life, it'll be harder for you to learn it than a native who's learning it as a child.
12:57 <Cepheid> So they can afford to learn more complicated kanji. Meanwhile, we cannot.
12:57 <Jackie> What about kanjidamage?
12:58 * Cepheid checks it out.
12:58 <Cepheid> Not a bad approach. Learning via radicals.
12:58 <Cepheid> You learn about them in formal education, and the radicals can help you figure out the meanings of some kanji, or what they are associated with.
12:59 <Jackie> Does Tae Kim give advice later
13:00 <Cepheid> Tim Kae's guide is pretty much the defacto guide advised for hobby learners.
13:00 <Cepheid> If you want in-depth, with testing and practice, the Genki series of textbooks with workbooks are good.
13:01 <Cepheid> So, with Tim Kae's guide, I'd say you're fine.
13:03 <Jackie> In my country, you can rarely find japanese material, because of the japanese occupation
13:06 <Cepheid> That... makes no sense.
13:07 <Jackie> Cepheid, they invaded our country a long time ago
13:07 <Jackie> like the 40s
13:08 <Jackie> Idk if they still think it's good diplomat with Japanese...
13:08 <Cepheid> Yeah, the thing that makes no sense to me is "you can rarely find Japanese material"
13:08 <Cepheid> If your country was occupied by Japan, wouldn't that mean- Or, is the occupation over?
13:08 * Cepheid is not sure where you live, and isn't a history buff, so...
13:09 <Jackie> The occupation was over
13:10 <Cepheid> Okay that makes more sense.
13:10 <Jackie> Just saying that it's really rare to find japanese imports here..m
13:10 <Cepheid> Right, right. I understand now.
13:10 <Jackie> After the occupation
13:10 <Cepheid> At least you don't seem to hold a grudge.
13:10 <Cepheid> Japan of the 40s is different from the Japan of now.
13:10 <Jackie> Idk why the government relies China than Japan
13:11 <Jackie> And I don't like it
13:11 <Cepheid> Either grudges, or some other reason. More likely a mix of the two.
13:12 <Jackie> Like I wish I have the privilage to get the imports but is it illegal?
13:12 <Koopz> RAdm. Finwe o7
13:12 <Cepheid> That seems excessive.
13:12 <Jackie> Why in the world would there be a country ban or limit Japanese imports
13:13 <Cepheid> I wonder if it's legal for you to use a roundabout method. That is, have someone from a country where importing is allowed from, order the product, receive it, then ship it to where you are.
13:13 <Jackie> Is there a country that really hates Japan
13:14 <Jackie> like still today and still disallows importation
13:14 <Jackie> The only thing I can get Japanese content is online
13:15 <Jackie> Which is sad
13:16 <Cepheid> If I had to guess, based on what I've heard, I'd say China and South Korea, probably. But don't hold me to that.
13:16 <Jackie> But do those countries still get content from Japan?
13:18 <Koopz> well the chinese most likely do, otherwise they couldn't produce knock-offs without getting their hands on the original
13:18 <Koopz> ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
13:18 <Cepheid> That doesn't mean that the imports are legal, though, Koopz. :P
13:19 <Jackie> Why would manga and anime imports be illegal
13:19 <Jackie> That's so anti-Japan tbh
13:20 <Cepheid> You are purely an optimist, aren't you?
13:21 <Jackie> I'm rather in the middle
13:21 <Jackie> If they want to ban anime and manga, then i'll find a way to access...
13:21 <Cepheid> Mmm, if you say so.
13:22 * ConfusionRift still gets impressed by TAS methods.
13:22 <Cepheid> Basically, to explain the why: Your country was occupied at one point, and that occupation probably imposed a lot of laws that restricted what the citizens could do, among other things. Even though that is no longer the case, people who were alive during that period, are probably the people who are now in the government. And many of them probably still hold a grudge.
13:23 * Filly_Nightmares licks ConfusionRift
13:23 <Cepheid> The problem is, those same people hold that grudge despite the fact that the Japan of today is not the same as the Japan of that period.
13:23 <Cepheid> The reason you can see that, is because you weren't alive during that period. You weren't even born.
13:23 <Jackie> Are they living in a rock?!
13:24 <ConfusionRift> ...
13:24 <Koopz> nah they might as well just be too lazy to change the lawss
13:24 <Cepheid> No. But when people are oppressed, it sticks with them.
13:24 <Jackie> That's straight up dictatorship
13:24 <Jackie> You can ban what's not related to the war
13:25 <Koopz> that would require making a proposal which would imply you'd need to go to office
13:25 <Jackie> Why not ban imperialist propaganda
13:25 <Jackie> And leave out the japanese books
13:25 <Jackie> and anime too
13:25 <Jackie> Gotta hate boomers tbh
13:26 * ConfusionRift sighs.
13:26 * Filly_Nightmares curls up wif ConfusionRift
13:26 * Filly_Nightmares nibbles on
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13:26 * Filly_Nightmares bats at ConfusionRift nosie
13:26 <Cepheid> Unfortunately, when this kind of stuff happens, the solution is basically "It's going to take generations to change."
13:27 <Cepheid> The reasoning being that the generations who hold a grudge have to grow up and pass away, and you have to hope those generations don't pass their grudges onto the next generations.
13:28 <ConfusionRift> It seems one of the few that might still hold a ban on Japanese goods is South Korea. But China is very likely on that list as well.
13:30 <Cepheid> China's a tricky to figure out, because China produces a lot of stuff that countries, including Japan, design and sell.
13:30 <Cepheid> So, exporting is clearly allowed from China to Japan. But importing is... yeah.
13:31 <ConfusionRift> You also have to remember that some use a "middleman" for imports and exports.
13:32 * Cepheid looks at the dungeon in front of him. Knows what's in it. It's a challenge dungeon. Looks at his bleeding, vitality and chaos resists.
13:32 <Jackie> How will a Japanese dictionary be illegal lol
13:32 <Cepheid> 20%, 40%, and 16% respectively .... Nope.
13:32 <Cepheid> Jackie,
13:32 <Cepheid> You're missing the point.
13:32 <Cepheid> The people hold such a grudge against Japan, that they want NOTHING TO DO WITH IT.
13:32 <Cepheid> This is how grudges work.
13:33 <Cepheid> People hate X so much, they want absolutely nothing to do with it. Even if it would save their freakin' lives.
13:33 <Jackie> I mean, I have the right to learn the Japanese language, the culture etc
13:33 <Cepheid> You do, yes.
13:33 <Cepheid> But that doesn't change what the people in your government think.
13:33 <Jackie> They should do that to themselves
13:34 <Jackie> It's not like I'll be arrested for learning Japanese
13:34 <Cepheid> If you imported stuff illegally, you could be.
13:34 <Cepheid> Or it'd just be confiscated and you'd get a hefty fine.
13:34 <ConfusionRift> When a country instills an absolute bans of imports and export for/from a country, that includes everything. EVERYTHING. That includes items that have their language on them, regardless of their use.
13:34 <Cepheid> Learning about it through other means though? That's not something they can control. Usually.
13:35 <Jackie> Because it's need for me to watch raw Anime
13:35 <Cepheid> Unless your country has a Great Firewall.
13:35 <Jackie> I don't live in China bruh
13:35 <Cepheid> I know.
13:35 <Cepheid> I'm just saying that if they had something like that, then conceivably they can control what you learn as well.
13:36 <Cepheid> But to put it into plain and simple words..
13:36 <Cepheid> If you want to fix this?
13:36 <Cepheid> Next election that comes around, go out and vote.
13:36 <Jackie> They can't stop me from learning in Tae Kim's website
13:36 <Cepheid> Vote for a party that wants to reconcile the differences between Japan and your country.
13:37 <Jackie> It's actually impossible to ban anything Japanese in the internet
13:38 <Jackie> Because there are things like Facebook, Youtube, Reddit, Twitter etc that are international and most possibly include a Japanese community
13:38 <Cepheid> Yes, Jackie.
13:38 <Cepheid> I'm aware. I am a COMPUTER. SCIENTIST. I understand how blocking stuff works.
13:39 <Jackie> If they don't want Japanese content online, maybe just ban the internet as a whole lol
13:39 <ConfusionRift> Don't tease them.
13:39 <Jackie> That's how China works
13:39 <Cepheid> Don't give your government ideas.
13:39 <Cepheid> They might actually take them to heart.
13:40 <Cepheid> Right now, be happy the government doesn't block Japanese content on the Internet. In the interim, your best choices if you want things to change?
13:40 <Cepheid> Activism. Voting.
13:40 <Jackie> What if I tell you my government's democratic
13:41 <Cepheid> Instead of sitting around and complaining to *US*, who can do nothing about your government's behaviour, complain to the people of your country. Express that you are unhappy, go through the steps to set up peaceful protests to your government. Vote, when the time comes.
13:41 * ConfusionRift missed the point of the discussion, and flops.
13:42 <Cepheid> Honestly I don't even know how we got here.
13:42 <Cepheid> It initially started as a discussion about the language, as Jackie is learning Japanese on her own.
13:43 <Jackie> Online only because Japanese imports may be illegal
13:43 * Cepheid enters an area in Grim Dawn. "Dangerous domain!"
13:43 * Cepheid goes and finds enemies to see just how dangerous. Minimum level is 36. He's level 18. "RUNNING!"
13:45 <ConfusionRift> Well, then you're set.
13:47 <ConfusionRift> You found a way to deal with the problem, and are doing what you needed to do. This whole country ban on imports is more complicated than just "I don't want it, so it can't be, done".
13:48 <ConfusionRift> I think we should leave it at that.
13:49 <Jackie> ConfusionRift, my concern is the part where you actually make online transactions
13:49 <Jackie> Does that actually count?
13:50 <Cepheid> I don't think so. Usually they'll just confiscate stuff at the border.
13:50 <ConfusionRift> ^
13:52 <Cepheid> In actuality? The best way for you to figure this out isn't to ask us. Go check your government laws and regulations and such regarding imports. It'd be easier to figure out that way.
13:52 <ConfusionRift> Normally, they won't allow you to make a transaction for an import that it prohibited, or affects a law or regulation. As Cepheid mentioned, if they do allow it, they will confiscate it once it reaches the border for inspection.
13:52 <Jackie> I mean as long as it's digital
13:52 <Lumindia> good luck confiscating digital goods, ya hecks
13:53 <Jackie> I played a lot of anime games before
13:53 <Jackie> and yet
13:53 <Jackie> I never got swatted lol
13:54 <ConfusionRift> If it's considered a good, it might still count. As I mentioned, they could just not let you finalize the transaction. Alas, just check laws and regulations. If it's ultimately not affected or falls on a loop hole... (shrugs) It would ultimately be on yoooouuuuu.
13:54 <Jackie> Also, unrelated, but Japan used to have a weird name before
13:54 <Cepheid> Sorry if I'm coming off as rude. I'm just confused as to why you're asking me, an individual who does not live in your country, or speak it's native language, or even knows anything *ABOUT* your country, about how it'd handle importing from a banned country.
13:54 <Cepheid> I am like, the least qualified person to ask.
13:55 <Cepheid> And I really don't want you asking me, because if you asked me, and did something based on what I said, and got into trouble for it, it'd be my fault, and I'd feel bad.
13:56 <Cepheid> Your best source of information regarding this would be like, a post office, or your local government office, or something.
13:56 <ConfusionRift> ^
13:56 <ConfusionRift> Read all about it!
13:57 <Cepheid> Ask a local friend, ask your parents, ask someone who's imported before.
13:58 <Cepheid> If you want to ask on the Internet, find the subreddit for your country and post a question there.
13:58 <ConfusionRift> I bet someone has already asked.
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13:59 <ConfusionRift> Should get some answers there, if not the local government's site.
13:59 <Cepheid> If anything that might even be your best bet, because you're more likely to find someone who's into Japanese culture who's imported stuff, on the Internet.
14:00 <Cepheid> Importing is very rarely done through stores that serve and sell stuff from a given country, these days.
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14:01 <ConfusionRift> Hence the middlemaaaaan.
14:01 <Cepheid> Arguably I am completely ignoring everything I've just said, because I'm offering advice about the situation from the perspective of someone who doesn't live in the country, speak it's native language, or knows it's laws.
14:02 <Cepheid> But at least in this case, the advice is actually applicable.
14:02 <Cepheid> Because my advice is basically "Seek out others in your own country for assistance." more or less.
14:04 * PrincessRainbows boops ConfusionRift and giggles
14:04 * ConfusionRift pets PrincessRainbows. :P
14:06 <Cepheid> Grim Dawn.. One of the few games that has inter-factional fighting.
14:06 <Jackie> To be quite honest...I do like moving to Japan
14:06 <Cepheid> You'll see stuff like enemies in the Beasts faction fighting the Aetherials and Undead factions.
14:08 <Cepheid> I wonder if one day, the devs will modify the engine to support multithreading.
14:08 <Cepheid> Right now, the biggest thing hampering the game's engine is that it's single-threaded.
14:09 <Cepheid> So, in certain situations, like, with a lot of projectiles, particles and the like, the game hits a performance bottleneck.
14:09 <Cepheid> They apparently did some optimizations that help, but I haven't really tested them yet.
14:10 <Cepheid> Well, that could have gone worse. Another Totem. Spawned a strong summoner who kept spamming the summon button.
14:11 <Cepheid> Aaaand I got sweet eff-all. Nothing I can use.
14:11 <ConfusionRift> I've yet to try that game. Then again, still trying to finish something... despite my absolute frustration.
14:12 * Cepheid decides to take the moment to quickly check how the performance improvements have helped.
14:12 <Cepheid> Did you ever play Titan Quest, Rifty?
14:13 <ConfusionRift> Nope. Haven't played that one.
14:14 <Cepheid> Ah, I was gonna say, if you played that, Grim Dawn is effectively Titan Quest 3.0 with a new story, new world, new lore.
14:15 * Cepheid sets game's affinity to 4 specific CPU cores to watch the performance.
14:15 <Cepheid> Otherwise, I have to watch 16 CPU entries.
14:16 <Cepheid> There's one area that always crawls to a slow when I fight, so let's go there.
14:16 <Cepheid> Definitely still single-threaded. Only core 1 has any usage.
14:18 <Cepheid> Yep, still CPU bound. Better than before, but yeah.
14:21 <Cepheid> Anyhow, Grim Dawn. It's a mostly-static-world ARPG. Some variation is introduced by having blockages randomly placed each time you start up the game, but otherwise, the world is pretty static.
14:21 <Cepheid> It's a fun game, though.
14:22 <Cepheid> The classes are far more diverse than say, Diablo. You got 10 classes. You can pick one after the first level up, and a second class at level 10.
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14:22 <ConfusionRift> Hmmm.
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14:23 <Cepheid> They recently(Within the last year) added a concept that turns it into more of a Diablo-like, too.
14:24 <Cepheid> Mind, it's part of the latest expansion. It's called the Shattered Realm. Generates an endless number of random floors. Deeper you go, the harder things get, but the rewards are better.
14:25 <Cepheid> Also has it's challenge dungeons. Dungeons that require crafting a key. Once you enter the dungeon, if you die, you're locked out from doing it again for that particular startup of the game. Hard as nails, but again, rewards are worth it.
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14:26 * ConfusionRift just remembered something.
14:26 <ConfusionRift> I work today...
14:26 <Cepheid> Some weird balance changes came in recent patches, though. For example, it used to be possible to get your dodge chance up to like, 95%. They recently nerfed the limit to 40%.
14:26 <Cepheid> I mean, I understand *WHY* they did it.
14:26 <Cepheid> But it caused a lot of controversy.
14:27 <ConfusionRift> Well, yeah. That's a substantial drop.
14:28 <Cepheid> Yeah. The reason it was done was because the general tactic for most challenges was to stack on as much defensive ability as possible to reduce the enemy hit chance to 5%.
14:28 <Cepheid> It became the literal metagame, more or less.
14:28 <Cepheid> It worked with everything. Including literal gods.
14:28 <Cepheid> ((Spoiler: Though not critical to the plot, you can encounter and fight a literal god.))
14:29 <Cepheid> Goes about as well as you'd expect.
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14:31 <Cepheid> That said, they didn't nerf resistances.
14:32 <Cepheid> And never before have I seen an ARPG where resistances are actually critical.
14:32 <ConfusionRift> Hmmmmm.
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14:34 * Cepheid finds a chest in a village hovel. Opens it. It's just a small, low-quality chest.
14:34 * Cepheid watches as an epic blade pops out.
14:34 <Cepheid> I love ARPGs when they do this. It's so odd.
14:34 <ConfusionRift> Oh. Neat. :P
14:34 <Cepheid> The people living in the hovel could have used this to save their own arses, but nope.
14:34 <Cepheid> Shoved in a chest.
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14:36 <ConfusionRift> That's videogame logic for ya.
14:37 <Cepheid> Well, I guess if the villager who owned it wasn't level 25 and didn't have 156 spirit, that'd explain it.
14:37 <ConfusionRift> Will never be as stupid as Sonic 06.
14:37 <Cepheid> Hot dang, another one of those totems?
14:37 <ConfusionRift> He wasn't high level enough to hold a sword.
14:37 <Cepheid> Third one I've found, so far.
14:40 * ConfusionRift flops. "I have to go to woooOOOORK! Blarg! Well, laters guys."
14:40 <Cepheid> Laters. Take care.
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14:40 <Cepheid> Hmm. Nice acid/poison resist ring. *Stores*
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14:42 <Jackie> !link https://youtu.be/2rEW9FMhyx8
14:42 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.
14:42 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Return of the Calbee Dog 2!
14:45 <Jackie> So...コンソメパンチ is konsome panchi
14:46 <Jackie> Which means idk, consuming punch lol
14:46 <Jackie> Or consumer punch
14:49 <Jackie> !link https://youtu.be/5EE0MCuqyws
14:49 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.
14:49 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about キユーピー あえるパスタソース たらこ「行進！再び」改訂篇30秒 キユーピーCM
14:53 <Jackie> Cepheid: to be fair I learnt some Japanese words by watching anime
14:56 <Jackie> Yamete~
14:59 <Cepheid> That's fine.
15:00 <Cepheid> Man, right now, the last thing an enemy in Grim Dawn will want to do is attack me. I'm covered in on-hit procs and on-attack procs.
15:18 * Finwe noms on Dragon Age II.
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15:38 <Hajnal> Looks like it's supposed to be consommé
15:38 <Finwe> o3o?
15:39 <Hajnal> Hi, Finwe
15:39 <Finwe> Greetings, Mr Hajnal.
15:39 * Finwe doffs his hat.
15:39 <Finwe> Prithee, what is supposed to be consommé?
15:43 <Hajnal> It was a response to Jackie.
15:44 <Jackie> Hajnal: it was in Katakana
15:47 <Finwe> I see.
15:47 <Hajnal> Yeah, that's why I went with consommé.
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16:11 <Cepheid> And so begins the great Console War of 2020.
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17:39 <Cepheid> I'm baaaald!
18:04 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Hasbro Closes Offices Worldwide Until April 1st In Response to Coronavirus [ http://tinyurl.com/qmhrzrl ]
18:38 <Cepheid> So, my mother corrected me on the size of my medical file from when I was a baby(And to this day, most likely)
18:38 <Cepheid> See, initially I've been saying it was like, 1-2 inches thick, right?
18:39 <Cepheid> Apparently, it was closer to a foot and a half.
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18:46 <Ali> Geebus dat is a large med history
18:47 <Cepheid> Yep.
18:49 <Cepheid> The reason for it is because they basically did every test under the sun that they could think of to explain numerous problems. The two core ones I'm familiar with are 1) I'd stop breathing, turn blue for a while, then start breathing again and return to normal. Following this, I'd suffer a massive, high-grade fever. Like, 103F thereabouts. 2) Apparently, my nose, sinuses and lungs generated mucus like no tomorrow, and
18:49 <Cepheid> they didn't know why.
18:49 <Cepheid> Far as my mother can tell, every test came back negative. As far as all the testing was concerned, I was a normal, healthy baby boy.
18:56 <Cepheid> Well ****.
18:56 <Cepheid> I can't get the prescription renewed over the phone.
18:57 <Cepheid> There are ways around it, though. I'm speaking with my counselor on Friday. Worst case, he can't do it either. Either way, it's not a super-critical prescription.
18:57 <Cepheid> It's the one I'm supposed to take only when I need it because of the onset of a panic or anxiety attack.
18:58 * Ali nod nods and rolls around the Cepheid
18:59 <Cepheid> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0bWydmDHSI
18:59 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.
18:59 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Tiny Baby Mouse Found Tucked Into Blankets | The Dodo Little But Fierce
19:04 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Fanfiction: The Joys of Homework on Hearth’s Warming [ http://tinyurl.com/w3ctsh5 ]
19:07 <Ali> Factorio updated Cepheid
19:09 *** Pony|80173 is now known as ThatAnonPony
19:10 * ThatAnonPony boops greetings at all the pon's.
19:18 <Cepheid> Updated servers.
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19:22 <Ali> The new GUI made me delete a book blueprint. I'm annoyed
19:25 * Cepheid challenges a challenge boss in Grim Dawn. "I can take you! I CAN TAKE-" Is struck, explodes into a bloom of red mist.
19:30 * Ali slow claps
19:30 <Ali> Again again!
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19:34 <Cepheid> From the looks of things...
19:34 <Cepheid> He deals mostly physical and bleeding damage. My bleeding resistance is... 20%.
19:35 <Cepheid> I want that chest. I'm willing to spend money to get to it, so let's buy some random gear and spec it for bleeding and physical resistance.
19:35 * Schism returns.
19:36 <Schism> Tomorrow I get trained off the one client, and onto WFM support.
19:36 <Schism> That'll be a thing, but a change is as good as a rest.
19:36 * Ali licks the Schism nosie
19:39 <Cepheid> 51% Bleeding resist, a huge increase to armor rating..
19:39 <Cepheid> Should suffice.
19:40 <Cepheid> ... Gods damn, man.
19:40 <Cepheid> Fine, I'll kill you later.
19:42 <Cepheid> Part of the problem is my build is not designed for receiving large amounts of burst damage. Which is exactly what this guy does.
19:42 <Cepheid> It's designed for dealing with massive swarms.
19:53 <Schism> Yeesh.
19:55 <Cepheid> https://twitter.com/LuminousOcean/status/1240366088816336905 Case in point.
19:55 <Cepheid> For your average monster, attacking me is suicide.
20:01 * Ali nibbles on Schism about SV
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20:02 <Schism> In a little bit, sure. I'm still calming down from work.
20:02 <Ali> No rush
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20:04 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Drawfriend Stuff (Pony Art Gallery) #3283 [ http://tinyurl.com/tfrt5ot ]
20:04 <Cepheid> One less warden in Cairn.
20:08 <Cepheid> ... Huh. Forgotten Gods expansion opens up early.
20:08 <Schism> Hum. I'm glad that the LCBO isn't in fact closing down.
20:09 <Cepheid> However, I know better. Forgotten Gods expansion is difficult. Well beyond my level. Likely just open so I can access the Shattered Realm.
20:10 * Cepheid busts open the gate in a palisade around some bandit camp. "ROOM SERVICE!"
20:10 <Schism> Bandits, I'm respecting your privacy by knocking, but I'm asserting my authority as an adventurer by KILLING YOU ALL ANYWAY!
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20:11 <PinkieShy> hihi
20:12 <Cepheid> Huh, that's a rarity. Two pieces of an armor set.
20:12 * Ali flops over PinkieShy
20:13 <Cepheid> Well, might as well hold onto it.
20:13 <Cepheid> It's gear made for my class.
20:14 <Schism> Always nice to have that.
20:17 * PinkieShy rolls around the room with really Derpy Eyes.
20:18 <Lumindia> Schism: Christ I understand that reference
20:18 <Schism> Hehe.
20:20 * Cepheid goes to try boss again. Should be a bit easier, as the level difference is now 5 levels rather than a staggering 8.
20:21 <Cepheid> Nope.
20:21 <Cepheid> Got a mean left hook that does like, 75% of my health in one hit.
20:23 <Cepheid> Cute. Try to stop a guy from killing his family, I can't convince him. I kill him, what does he drop? The very torch he set his house on fire with.
20:29 <Cepheid> "Find my Elsa! Make sure she's okay!" "Dude, she's fine." "You haven't even gone anywhere, how are you cert-" "Avatar." "Avatar? What kind of Avatar goes around exploding the **** out of everything they strike?" "... Sounds like the Avatar to me?"
20:36 <Cepheid> ... I lose some elemental resistance with that belt, but +31% health regen sounds nice. Especially when my prime method of survival is through-the-roof regen.
20:36 <Cepheid> Puts my base regen rate at 59 health per second.
20:36 <ADragonDreaming> what reference? Fairly Oddparents? Or was there a more obscure one?
20:37 <Cepheid> With skill in place... health regen goes up to 242.
20:37 <Cepheid> Add in potion on top..
20:38 * Ali rolls around
20:38 <Cepheid> Can't tell. Game doesn't say what the regen rate is.
20:38 <Cepheid> But I assume it's somewhere in the 500/sec range.
20:41 <Cepheid> Hum, this skill's actually a little OP. At it's current stats, it regenerates 1/3rd of my health instantly, can be used every 4.7 seconds(For comparison, a potion regenerates 25% + 800, and has a cooldown of 10+ seconds), and improves health regen by +82 before boosts.
20:45 * ThatAnonPony boops a rolling Ali.
20:45 * Ali squeaks at ThatAnonPony
20:45 * ThatAnonPony squeaks back!
20:49 * Cepheid goes to try boss once more with new regen.
20:49 * Ali waits for more red paste to be made
20:52 <Cepheid> Gotcha that time.
20:52 * Cepheid opens the chest. It's coins.
20:53 <Ali> You found a green rupee!
20:55 <Cepheid> I wish I were joking, too.
20:55 <Ali> Well the US is shutting down all malls
20:56 * Ali wonders when all airports are going to shut down.
20:57 <Cepheid> Man, I hope I am not like, unsealing some eldritch horror by destroying all these totems I've never seen before.
20:58 <Cepheid> https://twitter.com/LuminousOcean/status/1240382081882034178 Cursed pants.
21:00 <Schism> You need long pants, you wear long pants.
21:02 * Cepheid adds yet another on-hit proc.
21:03 <Cepheid> As if I don't have enough of these.
21:04 <Ali> On hit proc SCREAM REAL LOUD
21:04 <Cepheid> This one procs at 10% probability. Inflicts flame and vitality damage to a bunch of enemies around me.
21:05 <Cepheid> Basically, I cause the enemy's blood to burst into flames.
21:11 * Ali stares at games, not sure which one to play.
21:12 <Cepheid> Afore I venture too far..
21:12 * Cepheid goes to start Forgotten Gods, to see what he can and cannot access.
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21:15 <PinkieShy> Feels like its should be like 9pm instead of just 5:15pm..
21:16 <PinkieShy> I guess waking up at 8am and not being used to it will do that to ya
21:17 <Cepheid> "You have become Hostile with Eldritch Horrors."
21:17 <Cepheid> So, what, I pissed off The Old Ones?
21:18 * Ali noms Cepheid to death cause Nids are horrors
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21:26 <Cepheid> I actually wonder how long this character can last against a swarm.
21:26 <Cepheid> An endless swarm, that is.
21:28 <Cepheid> Hum, which of the Witch God cults do I want to join..?
21:29 * Ali ponyshrugs
21:30 <Finwe> o3o
21:30 <Finwe> Miss Ali, Mr Schism.
21:30 * Finwe doffs his hat.
21:30 <Finwe> Lt ThatAnonPony.
21:30 <Finwe> o7
21:30 * Ali doffs over Finwe
21:31 * Finwe noms on ThatAnonPony's tail.
21:33 <Cepheid> "Yep, definitely crazy" - Response you can give to a woman who's screaming about the end.
21:34 <Ali> You know that could be applied to what's going on nowadays
21:34 * ThatAnonPony tailwiggles at Finwe's nom.
21:35 <Cepheid> Interesting. Solael's cult doesn't seem to have an equipment vendor.
21:37 <Cepheid> Oh, there he is.
21:38 <Cepheid> Honestly, Bysmiel sounds best. Spider god.
21:38 <Cepheid> Solael sounds insane. Dreeg sounds like he'd make me go insane.
21:40 <Cepheid> I am surprised that this place seems set up for my level.
21:47 <Ali> So how often does this vendor show up in SV?
21:51 * Cepheid grabs *ANOTHER* On-attack proc.
21:52 <Schism> Fridays and Saturdays.
21:52 <Schism> Sundays*
21:52 <Schism> Also, Winter 15-17.
21:52 <Ali> Are they only in summer?
21:53 <Schism> Nope, every season.
21:53 <Schism> But some of the items only appear in some seasons.
21:53 * Ali nods and hugs the Schism
21:53 <Schism> If'n you see a Duck Feather there, go after it. o3o;
21:54 * Ali swishies tail at Schism if they'd like to SV some? Ish fine if they don't, she can just dos other fings.
21:54 * Schism ish kinda... ehn. Not feeling it tonight after all. "Sorry, Ali."
21:54 * Ali nods
21:54 <Cepheid> Mmm, Royal Jelly. That'll be useful. Can turn it into a salve that provides +HP Regen for several minutes.
21:55 <Cepheid> I think I got a plan for this character.
21:55 <Cepheid> Stack as much +health regen% as possible, alongside attack speed.
21:56 <Schism> By the way, Ali, don't forget to plant some trees if you get enough gold out of fishing. o3o They take 28 days to grow into a fruit-bearing tree, and produce fruit all season round.
21:56 <Ali> I have no idea what I'm doing Schism
21:57 <Schism> Well, that's the best way to learn...!
21:57 * ThatAnonPony peers over Schism's shoulder at the suspected farming simulator.
21:57 <Schism> Well, yes, there is a bit of Stardew.
21:58 <Ali> Well I'm already at like Summer 14, but I'm still so unsure of things
21:59 <Schism> Don't worry. There's not actually a time limit or anything.
21:59 <Ali> Err make it day 18 summer
21:59 <Ali> I just got the chicken coop
21:59 <Ali> And it took me 3 days to get a freaking chick cause Marine wouldn't be open two days in a row
22:02 <Ali> So Schism when do you start finding gold in the mines?
22:02 <Schism> Ehhhhmmmm.
22:02 <Schism> Levels 80+.
22:03 <Ali> Bleh
22:03 <Schism> Alternately, Frozen Geodes, from 41-79, have a chance of dropping it.
22:04 <Ali> Dats far now
22:04 <Cepheid> It dawned on me how different arachnophobia is from apiphobia.
22:04 <Schism> Yes, bees != spiders.
22:04 <Cepheid> My mother has arachnophobia. Bad. Even the smallest of spiders scares the living crap out of her. She can't even stand to see virtual ones.
22:04 <Schism> Meanwhile, honeybees are adorable.
22:04 <Cepheid> Meanwhile, I have apiphobia. I don't like bees when they are flying and such. I run from them.
22:04 <Cepheid> If they're landed, it's fine. It's only when they are flying.
22:05 <Cepheid> And I am not bothered by bees I see in video games.
22:05 <Cepheid> Even ones that are freakin' the size of my character's torso.
22:05 <Schism> Heh, or the bee from Donkey Kong Country.
22:05 <Ali> How important are the higher quality sprinklers? I know you can buy gold from Clint, but at a terrible price.
22:06 <Cepheid> Higher-tier equipment generally covers larger areas, like in Harvest Moon.
22:06 <Schism> Well, the gold ones are definitely helpful, yes.
22:06 <Cepheid> So one would assume "pretty important" for watering larger areas.
22:08 <Cepheid> ... What the hell just happened? I used a potion, healed to full health, then that queen bee did something to me that MISTIFIED me.
22:08 <Schism> Well, the watering can is upgraded for that.
22:08 <Schism> Sprinklers are automatic watering devices.
22:08 <Cepheid> From FULL health.
22:08 <Schism> Whoops. @_@
22:09 <Schism> Oh, and Ali: be sure to buy some coffee. It increases your run speed.
22:09 <Cepheid> Well whatever, she's dead now.
22:09 <Schism> Tho it's probably expensive at the start.
22:10 <Ali> Refined quartz, can you make that from quartz or only from recyling?
22:10 <Schism> You just smelt regular quartz.
22:10 <Schism> Or Fire Quartz if you're down that far yet.
22:13 <Cepheid> Mmm. More health regen. And 4% damage converted to health.
22:14 <Cepheid> Given how I deal area-of-effect damage around me, that 4% damage converted to health...
22:14 <Ali> Animals outside Schism don't need to be fed right?
22:14 <Cepheid> That's gonna be a good chunk of health.
22:14 <Schism> Not if they're grazing, Ali.
22:14 <Ali> Kay, I have two chicks outside
22:15 <Schism> So it's helpful to have some grass seeds and some grass, just in case.
22:15 <Ali> Also if its going to rain and the animals are outside, how do you call them back in?
22:15 <Schism> Just open the door.
22:15 <Ali> They won't wander outside if its raining?
22:16 <Schism> You want them to be able to get inside every night anyway.
22:16 <Ali> Also is wild grass different than the planted grass?
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22:16 <Schism> Nope. In fact, you might want to keep a patch of grass so that you can make hay once Robin builds you a silo.
22:16 <Ali> Already have a silo :P
22:17 <Schism> Well, then. Keep two patches, one for the animals, one for hay just in case. :P
22:17 <Ali> What I mean is the height, there's so much grass on the starting map for newbies that you can't see any animal that wanders into it.
22:17 <Schism> Oh, depends on the animal. Chicks are kinda not so obvious, but chickens are.
22:19 <ADragonDreaming> I bet modding scene has updated. I should dig into that.
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22:19 <Cepheid> Oh, most definitely.
22:19 <Cepheid> Hum, won't say no to a new inventory bag. o3o
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22:25 <ADragonDreaming> Schism Ali Cepheid how feel about a full co-operative farm later tonight?
22:25 <Ali> I wouldn't mind, but I'm not sure Schism is up for it
22:25 <Schism> Mayhap. I can't play for long, I've got work much, much earlier than usual. But I guess I might be up for a little while.
22:25 <Cepheid> Could give it a try.
22:25 <ADragonDreaming> I need to dinner and such.
22:26 <Schism> Adra: They're temporarily moving me from a client-facing position to WFM assist.
22:26 <ADragonDreaming> Aha.
22:26 <ADragonDreaming> So you get to ... make schedules?
22:26 <Schism> Well, emphasis on the 'assist'. I get to let the team know when there are glitches when people don't come off lunch or break on time, etc.
22:27 <Cepheid> If I'm up, anyway. Starting to feel groggy.
22:27 <ADragonDreaming> Ah.
22:27 <Schism> Are we going to do the four-corners map, or a straight farm?
22:28 <ADragonDreaming> yeah but with farm I'm kind of itching to do grouped houses and shared wallet, which would rpobably work best with standard farm map.
22:28 <Schism> That'd work.
22:28 <ADragonDreaming> is food time, bbl
22:28 <Schism> I'm not totally sure about the grouped house layout, but it wouldn't be a bad idea.
22:30 * Ali doesn't know, she is just wanting something to do as this cabin fever is starting to take hold as her mother is annoying her to death.
22:30 <Schism> I hear you there...
22:32 <Cepheid> Honestly I should have just killed that guy instead of bribe him to leave. The area around him and the story doesn't do him much good for his reputation.
22:32 <Cepheid> He's standing in front of a doorway of a house, threatening to kill people if they don't get him some scrap. Problem is, it gets weird when you look inside the house.
22:33 <Cepheid> Inside the house is a child. And his commentary...
22:33 <Schism> Oh, dear.
22:34 <Cepheid> That said, the rewards are less if you don't bribe or get him the scrap. The people panic if you gut him, because they worry that his bossman, Cronley, who I plan to MURDER IN COLD BLOOD LATER, will come after them.
22:35 <Schism> Top down it is.
22:41 <Cepheid> Bribe the guy, murder his boss, free the prisoners, everyone wins!
22:48 <Cepheid> Hum, new devotion skill. At 45% health, I get a 5-second buff which provides 40% conversion of damage to health, +8% attack speed, +8% physical resistance, and a recharge time of 47 seconds.
22:59 <Cepheid> Hey Cronley. Bye, Cronley.
23:02 <Cepheid> Normally I don't want to spend points on Spirit, but that ring he gave me is just too tempting. +32% Physical Damage.
23:04 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Drawfriend - Equestria Girls / Anthro MLP Art Gallery #179 [ http://tinyurl.com/rhgy4tw ]
23:05 <ADragonDreaming> fmorf
23:06 <Ali> And there it, FNM is offically canned for the forseeable future
23:06 <Ali> I wasn't going anyway, sucks as that was one of my few sources of fun
23:07 * Ali needs to rebalance her budget as she can't save too much money over this.
23:07 <Ali> You know, come to think of it, right now that money the government would hand out might hurt me more than help
23:07 <Ali> Cause I'm not allowed to have more than 2k
23:07 * Ali nibbles on the ADragonDreaming ear
23:08 <Ali> Too all of you, I'm sorry if I'm getting very pestery/pokey for things to do, without my staff and any ongoing outside things, I kind of get bored and have little to do.
23:08 <ADragonDreaming> It's understandable!
23:08 <ADragonDreaming> I'm seeing how things get laid out in a farm right now.
23:10 <Schism> I'm refreshing myself with the layout momentarily.
23:12 <PinkieShy> Saw on TV last night on CNN they are now urgueing like Millennials to stay home as well.. I'm a Millennial..
23:13 <Schism> That's so we don't infect all the old people.
23:13 <PinkieShy> I've been going to the store like yesterday to buy some things but still mostly home anyways :P
23:13 <ADragonDreaming> https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/797640367222092969/E51971056CEDCD26CDB6BA27D0EB46EF7196BEAF/
23:13 <ADragonDreaming> das is das layout with squnch up setting.
23:14 <ADragonDreaming> they can be moved, if you open save in single player.
23:15 <ADragonDreaming> so it's not like this is set in stone.
23:15 <ADragonDreaming> invite code: EJIZVUWZCG0
23:17 <Schism> Mine's not open, so I suppose I shall join youse.
23:23 <Cepheid> In unrelated news, I'm down to 210lbs.
23:24 <ADragonDreaming> nice
23:24 <Cepheid> For comparison, at the start of 2019, I was 235lbs.
23:25 <Cepheid> Another 20 more, and I'll be in my "healthy range" according to the diabetic doctor.
23:27 <PinkieShy> Last year i weighed 208 when i went to the dr.. Doctor's care/urgent care when i went in yesterday for my toe.. Apparently I gained 12 pounds in a year..
23:27 <Cepheid> Regarding Stardew Valley, not tonight. On a roll in this game, and I just took my meds to sleep, so I'll be out soon. I promise, however, to put time into it tomorrow and multiplayer tomorrow night, and over the next few days as well, including the weekend. I made a metric ton of progress on my game, so I'm taking a few days off.
23:29 <ADragonDreaming> spiff
23:29 <ADragonDreaming> there's a cabin for ya
23:29 <Cepheid> Excellent.
23:35 <Cepheid> "You have reached Despised with the Arkovian Undead." ... *Is currently under assault from the Arkovian Undead* You don't say.
23:38 <Cepheid> This build is utterly ridiculous. Any damage I take is healed in less than a second. It takes massive swarms to even dent my health, and even if they do, if I hit 45%, I start regenerating my health at a rate of 40% of the damage I deal out.
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23:52 <Cepheid> And another on-attack proc.
23:54 <Cepheid> I'm covering myself in so many on-hit and on-attack procs, I swear that it's gonna get to a point where just hitting me is going to kill something.
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