00:05 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Do Kirin Eat Meat? [ http://tinyurl.com/uyztgze ]
00:08 * Starlight_Glimmer lays down on Ali
00:08 * Ali snuggles on the Starlight_Glimmer so much
00:09 <Starlight_Glimmer> I've played some CoD Warzone today and surprisingly it wasn't awful
00:09 * Ali washes Starlight_Glimmer clean of CoD, that crap is worse than covid
00:09 <Ali> I mean its the same
00:09 <Ali> It comes around every year
00:09 <Ali> And makes people sick of seeing it
00:09 <Starlight_Glimmer> It might just be the first battle royal game I actually enjoy
00:09 * Ali bleps
00:10 <Starlight_Glimmer> Ah see I haven't played any battle royal games nor CoD in years
00:10 <Ali> And I care less about either
00:11 <Ali> I'm not good enough at any FPS game, and people love to camp
00:11 <Ali> So my memories of those games are spawn die spawn die
00:11 * Starlight_Glimmer plays with Ali's years. "Never gets old ..."
00:12 <Starlight_Glimmer> Oh I'm terrible, but my K/D is above one and with 3 friends it's good fun
00:15 <Ali> What are these friend things? Last I heard they just stab you in the back and kick you out cause you're different.
00:15 <Lunanightwind> warzone is good but hackers are rampant and reallly bad
00:20 <Ali> That's the other thing
00:20 <Ali> People hack and cheat the game so its not as fun
00:20 <Ali> Or there's pay to win elements
00:25 * Starlight_Glimmer teleport hacks Ali under their blankets. "Now hush. I need my beauty sleep and you're my designated side sleeping pillow."
00:25 <Ali> But I'm loud an annoying..
00:25 <Lunanightwind> i saw one person in warzone the other day hacked his way to 49 kills in 1 game
00:28 <Ali> That doesn't surprise me any
00:28 <Ali> And as long as game companies don't do crap to deal with it, it will always be a problem.
00:29 <Lunanightwind> yep
00:31 <Ali> Like I refuse to deal with games with time trails
00:32 <Ali> Cause EVERY #1 spot is always 00.00.00
00:35 <Lunanightwind> i love time trials in mario kart wii
00:35 <Lunanightwind> just cuz of ultra shortcuts
00:35 <Lunanightwind> some of those are super fun to try to pull off
00:37 <Ali> But again
00:37 <Ali> If there's world times for anything
00:37 <Ali> Its always 00.00.00
00:37 <Ali> Even if the track takes six seconds with cheats
00:38 <Ali> There's always someone out there with no time
00:44 <Lunanightwind> you cant call a super shortcut cheats
00:44 <Lunanightwind> bad programming maybe but not cheats
00:45 <Ali> Either or Lunanightwind
00:45 <Ali> There's always going to be a time trail where someone has a lower time than you even with the most godly of cheats or programing glitches
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01:10 * PrincessRainbows flops and sighs
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01:21 * Ali brushies PrincessRainbows and sighs with her.
01:21 <Lunanightwind> night
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01:27 * Ali beeps Bubbles
01:27 * Bubbles cuddles Ali
01:28 * Ali yays and licks Bubbles nosie
01:28 <Bubbles> how's it going?
01:30 <Ali> Meh, not that great. The isolation is killing me.
01:33 <Bubbles> yeah it's rough
01:34 <Ali> I've lost access to MTG drafts and arena just doesn't work right for that if you don't throw money at the stupid thing.
01:35 <Bubbles> Ah, I haven't fired up arena (or played any MTG) in a looong while
01:37 <Ali> The problem with the online version
01:37 <Ali> Is that its really hard to get cards you need
01:37 <Ali> Sure they give you wildcard cards
01:37 <Ali> but for a FTP player they don't come fast enough and with set rotations every year
01:38 <Ali> You just can't get what you need to make it thru all of that.
01:38 <Bubbles> I mostly stopped because I just wanna play multiplayer commander, lol
01:41 <Ali> I'm not good with commander...
01:42 <Bubbles> I like dumb deck themes
01:43 <Ali> I just don't have the old cards to make a really good Commander deck
01:46 <Bubbles> yeah I haven't played in paper in like 5 or so years so I don't really factor in stuff like that
01:46 <Ali> Oh :/
01:49 <Bubbles> used to go to FNM every so often a while ago but stopped because money, maybe I'll restart playing again IRL someday but idk
01:50 <Ali> Heh, well can't do it right now cause the LGS is shut down
01:59 <Bubbles> okay it's 3am and my brain's shutting down, just wanted to pop in and see what's what
01:59 * Bubbles snugs Ali
01:59 * Ali snugs Bubbles so much
01:59 <Bubbles> seeya Ali, hang in there
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02:01 <Schism> Okay. It's small, but I'm going to stretch my legs while there's no chance of running into anyone. Walk around in the graveyard.
02:02 <Ali> Careful to not trip on a hole or something
02:03 <Schism> It's lit well enough.
02:03 <Schism> And I'm sure Dampe wouldn't be giving me 20 rupees.
02:05 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Nightly Discussion #2128 [ http://tinyurl.com/umr8kro ]
02:28 * PinkieShy licks the next pony to say something in the room
02:29 <ADragonDreaming> Fortunately, I am a dragon, and not a pony.
02:30 * Schism returns from a brief walk.
02:30 <Schism> Hum. $72 cheque. I suppose that'll pay for my meds.
02:31 * PrincessRainbows licks PinkieShy a lot in return
02:32 * Ali snugs on ADragonDreaming and Schism
02:32 <Schism> A little walking about does a world of good.
02:35 * Ali ponyshrugs and doesn't know about that.
02:36 * PinkieShy licks ADragonDreaming a bunch
02:36 * PinkieShy also hugs PrincessRainbows
02:42 <Schism> 4/8 Hand relics complete. Almost done.
02:46 <Schism> Medication taken.
02:53 * Ali noms on Schism's relics
02:54 <Schism> They taste like purple.
02:58 * Cepheid awakens.
02:58 <Schism> Hoi.
03:03 <PinkieShy> Had Easter Dinner today a day early.
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03:04 <Schism> Same.
03:04 <PinkieShy> It was amazing :) Bought a ham this time around that had a honey liquid type glaze instead of the powdered glaze stuff >_>
03:04 <PinkieShy> Did find out though I got one heck of a deal.
03:05 <PinkieShy> I bought the ham from Walmart, After opening the ham today i slowly pulled the sticker off to see the sticker under the one that read the price I paid
03:05 <PinkieShy> The first sticker said $30.. I was able to save $10 :D
03:05 <PinkieShy> a $30 ham at $20 is nice.
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03:05 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Makenshi: More Pony Music! Chillhop, Jazz, Happy Hardcore! [ http://tinyurl.com/wcqnyxx ]
03:10 <Cepheid> Not the best breakfast, but better than the usual fare. Muffin, strawberries, and finally my usual genoa salami, cheese, and crackers.
03:13 <Cepheid> Usual is just a bowl of rice crispies or cheerios. Which, to be honest isn't that varied. Here at least I get grains, milk, meat, and some fruit.
03:15 <PinkieShy> I just usually have Coco Crispy cereal.
03:21 * Cepheid watches a nightmare 100% secrets speedrun of DOOM.
03:22 * Schism doots at Cephy.
03:23 <Schism> There's 5/8 down.
03:30 <PinkieShy> I don't know if this means much to any of you but, Thank you all for being so nice supportive and everything :) You are all amazing
03:31 * Schism hugs the PinkieShy!
03:34 <Cepheid> Geezus cripes that was fast. 16 minutes to clear episode 1. All secrets, all monsters. Except the Phobos Anomaly of course, due to how it ends.
03:37 <Schism> Aye.
03:39 <Schism> Hrmf. Facet stuff is TECHNICALLY better than these tools. However...
03:40 <Schism> There's something visceral about having an entire docket of purple items.
03:44 <Cepheid> Next time I get or make a desk, I'm making it out of non-wood materials. Metal, or plastics. Probably metal.
03:44 <Cepheid> Because of the constant... something, emitted from my skin, weird things happen to wood and wooden veneer.
03:48 * Schism watches it bubble.
03:48 <Cepheid> Basically yeah. Bubbles, erodes, etc.
03:48 <Schism> Not too uncommon.
03:49 <Cepheid> So, wait, that's normal?
03:49 <Schism> Yeah, especially with particle board, moisture and oils get trapped.
03:49 <Cepheid> AH.
03:49 <Cepheid> I was curious. I always thought it was something about me specifically, partly because I know I have an skin-oil problem.
03:49 <Cepheid> It's exhibited by any surface I touch, more or less.
03:50 <Schism> It's definitely not just you.
03:50 <Cepheid> Any surface I touch pretty much becomes permanently blemished with a shiny, oily spot, which lasts until it's washed off. And this also applies to cloth.
03:50 <Schism> Eh. I'm pretty oily too.
03:50 <Cepheid> Yeah, but do your chairs show literal stails from all the oil you've applied to them?
03:51 <Schism> Sometimes.
03:52 <Cepheid> Well, that's comforting, at least.
03:53 <Schism> Somewhat.
03:53 * Schism hums, creates more oddly specific gemstones.
03:53 <Cepheid> Today, I feel the need to code, but on something different. Something I've been trying to figure out for some time now.
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03:53 * Ali noms on Schism's gems
03:53 * Cepheid grabs physics textbook, opens to chapter on angular rotation.
03:54 <Schism> 'This specifically cut lapis lazuli has now been properly soaked in a very specific type of unicorn saliva. The cute kind.'
03:54 <Cepheid> Heh.
03:55 <Cepheid> The type of rotation I'm trying to figure out is rotation of a rigid object in a gravity-less vacuum, that has a force applied to it. How are rotations applied in such cases?
03:55 <Ali> Eh, if you can make em belive it, I'm not cute though.
03:57 * Cepheid firsts watches another speedrun video of Episode 1 of Doom.
04:04 <Cepheid> Fun note, but the original attract mode demos of DOOM no longer work right. Even in the original executables.
04:04 <Schism> Oh?
04:07 <Cepheid> Some bugs were fixed, and some things changed at one point, that the demos no longer ran the same, and would suffer "desync" after certain points. This resulted in the recording showing the character doing illogical stuff.
04:07 <Schism> Ah, of course.
04:07 <Cepheid> Meanwhile, recording demos for the game actually makes the game harder.
04:08 <Cepheid> In the game, rotation of an entity is stored in a 16-bit short word.
04:09 <Cepheid> For some reason though, the recording files only store one byte. As a result, the resolution of turning is heavily reduced.
04:11 <Schism> Huh.
04:17 <Cepheid> Meanwhile, you also can't get 100% kills on certain levels, or 100% secrets on certain levels. In rare cases, you can even get above 100% on one or the other.
04:17 <Cepheid> In the former case, Phobos ANomaly, the final level of Episode 1, you cannot get 100% kills because of the final room.
04:22 <Cepheid> Meanwhile, in Doom 2, one of the levels has a secret that you have to walk over it in order to get it, but because of the way the logic in the game works, it fails to activate due to an elevation shift that occurs due to a nearby teleporter.
04:22 <Cepheid> As a result, you can't trigger the secret.
04:22 <Schism> I remember that one. Someone managed to trick a mob into triggering it properly.
04:22 <Cepheid> Yep.
04:23 <Cepheid> Meanwhile, in earlier versions of DOOM 2, arch-vile ressurected monsters and lost souls generated by pain elementals counted against the kill counter. That was resolved in a patch, but the problem still remains to a degree with the last level of DOOM 2, where monsters are spawned in endlessly.
04:23 <Cepheid> There was initially a competition status for how high you got the kill percentage before killing the boss. But then someone found an exploit.
04:24 <Cepheid> Turns out, after warping into the room, if you just stand there, the enemies won't activate as they are spawned, and the mob spawner is NOT programmed to check if there's a monster already at each spawn point.
04:24 <Cepheid> So the end-result is that the game just keeps spawning more enemies, which then telefrag the previous enemies on each spot.
04:24 <Cepheid> Leave the game running for a few hours, and you can get kill percentages in the thousands and beyond.
04:24 <PinkieShy> While on my walk today I had a cough come up on me >_>
04:25 <PinkieShy> Cough from all the pollen and such and somebody heard it and asked me from a distance if i was sick. Had to explain it was cough from all the pollen >_>
04:25 <PinkieShy> They understood though, They commented about how bad their car is covered in that stuff.
04:25 <Cepheid> Heh.
04:26 <Cepheid> And now you know why I am not allowed outside.
04:27 <Cepheid> So, I can understand how force applied to a solid object floating in a gravity-less vacuum will create the rotation.
04:27 <Cepheid> However, it should also be applying movement. That's the part I can't figure out.
04:28 <Cepheid> With respect to rotation, it's basic trig, linear algebra and circles.
04:29 <Cepheid> Though, visualizing the problem..
04:30 <Cepheid> ... It can't be that simple.
04:31 <Cepheid> The logic of my visualization tells me that application of the force vector to the object's positional motion is all that is needed. Any other changes are handled by the rotation.
04:44 * Cepheid reads a physics book.
04:47 <Cepheid> Not doing any coding, but at least I feel productive. o3o
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04:58 <Schism> Cepheid: Have you yet to read "Ignition!"?
04:59 <Cepheid> Not even sure what that is.
05:02 <Schism> A book about the history of liquid rocket propellants.
05:02 <Schism> Prefaced by Isaac Asimov, who rightly declared the whole group of scientists responsible completely bat-guano insane.
05:03 <Schism> Want a link? o3o
05:03 <Cepheid> Sure, I might read it when I feel bored.
05:04 <Cepheid> In this case, I'm only studying physics because Project #2 that I'll be working on when I can't work on Project #1 due to burnout, is dependent on more complex physics.
05:05 <Schism> https://library.sciencemadness.org/library/books/ignition.pdf
05:05 <Schism> Whee... SAM54.
05:07 * Cepheid stops for a bit to read up on the going-ons of COVID-19. "I want to say I'm shocked that US republicans are insistent that everything's fine, and that people should be allowed to return to work otherwise it affects their health and livelihoods, but I'm not."
05:09 <Cepheid> I wonder how much longer before governors, especially democratic ones, are being accused of creating a police state by implementing these stay-at-home orders, in an attempt to discredit and demonize the democrats further. They're already doing all sorts of *** during this pandemic to demonize anyone that's not republican as is.
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05:13 <Cepheid> Right, I've had enough of that.
05:14 <Schism> Hum, should have SAM at 55 soon enough.
05:32 <PinkieShy> My little Chihuahua is laying on top of the vent floor register..
05:32 <PinkieShy> I guess the heat feels good :3
05:34 <Finwe> Good morning, my perissodactyls of minute stature.
05:34 <Finwe> Messrs Cepheid, PinkieShy and Schism.
05:34 * Finwe doffs his hat.
05:34 <Finwe> Mlles Ali, Filly_Nightmares and PrincessRainbows.
05:34 * Finwe redoffs his hat.
05:35 * Ali hugs Finwe
05:35 * Finwe snuggles the Ali.
05:40 * PinkieShy hugs Finwe
05:43 * Filly_Nightmares kneads Finwe
05:46 * Finwe snuggles a PinkieShy and counter-kneads a Filly_Nightmares.
05:48 * PinkieShy licks Filly_Nightmares
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05:53 * Filly_Nightmares suckles on Finwe floof and kneads PinkieShy
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05:59 * Finwe gives Easter eggs to Ali, Filly_Nightmares and PinkieShy, one each.
06:01 * Ali noms on Finwe instead
06:03 * Finwe tastes of dicalcium phosphate and colecalciferol.
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06:11 <Schism> "At Peenemunde, a Dr. Wahrmke tried dissolving alcohol in 80% H2O2 and then firing that in a motor. It detonated, and killed him."
06:11 <Finwe> *batang*
06:12 <Schism> Yeah, that's the kind of solution you... don't want to play with.
06:12 * Cepheid returns from shower.
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06:14 * Ali licks Schism nosie
06:15 <Finwe> Schism: Ignition!
06:15 <Schism> Yes! I'm rereading it. It's a classic.
06:16 <Finwe> An Informal History of Liquid Rocket Propellants by John D. Clark, with foreword by Isaac Asimov.
06:16 <Schism> There's the bunny.
06:16 * Finwe ruffles the bunny.
06:16 <Schism> Finwe: There's a PDF link a couple lines up.
06:21 * Finwe nodnods.
06:28 <Cepheid> So, I understand rotation and forces, now. I'm still lacking one critical detail in physics for my project.
06:30 <Schism> Butyl mercaptan... oh dear.
06:30 <Cepheid> You apply a point force to square, near one of it's corners. The center of mass is in the center of the square. Easy peasy, and the rotation's fine and dandy. But the force applied still applies some translation to the object, the question though is how much of that force is applied to the translation, and how much to the rotation? The point force is not aligned with the center of mass, so the amount of translation isn't
06:30 <Cepheid> simply equal to position + force vector.
06:30 <Schism> I'd forgotten about that part of this book. XD;
06:30 <Finwe> Schism: Sounds like something that would smell outright terrible.
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06:32 <Schism> It is described as distillation of skunk.
06:33 <Schism> Then there's ethyl mercaptal of acetaldehyde, which is rather garlicky in all the worst ways, and finally a dimethylamino group attached to mercaptan sulfur, which was promptly and angrily banned from any future projects.
06:37 <Schism> This is quite the fuel. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dicyanoacetylene
06:38 <Cepheid> When the force vector is directly facing the center of mass, the translations are easy. We know right off the bat that there's no rotation, so a simple translation is applied. That's it.
06:39 <Cepheid> But when say, the force vector is not pointing directly at the center, my intuition tells me that some of the force vector's energy is applied to the rotation, and the rest to translation.
06:42 <Finwe> I think you shouldn't trust your intuition.
06:43 <Finwe> Just write the equations for conservation of momentum and angular momentum and be off with it.
06:44 <Cepheid> The problem is, I don't know what equations I need, and most of the physics textbooks I read only ever seem to assume rotation about a fixed axis, that is, an axis that doesn't move.
06:44 <Cepheid> So I have to use intuition to figure out how this all works.
06:45 <Cepheid> For example, I know applying a tangential force vector to the edge of a circle will result in rotation with no translation.
06:45 <Cepheid> But what if that force vector isn't tangential? The rotation can be figured out, but what's the translation?
06:45 <Finwe> The impulse given by the force is going to be the momentum of the object, and the angular momentum the impulse has relative to your chosen point of reference is going to be the angular momentum the object has releative to that point.
06:46 <Cepheid> So if I apply an impulse to an object, it's translation and rotation have no correlation to one another?
06:47 <Finwe> So, P = m x v_cm, where v_cm is the velocity of the centre of mass.
06:47 <Cepheid> The problem I see is in visualizing the problem. Short of drawing out the problem I see, I cannot express the issue.
06:47 <Cepheid> Problem is, drawing it out isn't exactly easy. Let me see what I can do.
06:49 <Finwe> and L_cm = aP, where a is the distance of the line defined by the impulse vector and the point where the impulse is given to the object to the center of the mass.
06:50 <Finwe> And L_cm is the angular momentum relative to the centre of mass.
06:51 <Cepheid> I see imgur is broken. Fine.
06:52 <Cepheid> Maybe it's time I started using that server of mine for more than just a bouncer. Really should set up a website, too.
06:56 <Cepheid> http://www.oneeyeclosed.ca/example.png This image describes the situation I'm trying to resolve. I know how to calculate the rotation vector, at this point. But, how do I handle the translation? It can't be as simple as applying the force vector to the center of mass, can it?
06:57 <Finwe> Impulse vector, not force.
06:57 <Cepheid> Okay, impulse vector.
06:57 <Cepheid> I know I know, force is a scaler value.
06:57 <Cepheid> It is has no direction. WHen direction is involved, it's an impulse.
06:57 <Finwe> Impulse is the integral of force over time.
06:58 <Cepheid> Still, question remains.
06:58 <Finwe> And forces are vectors as well.
06:58 <Cepheid> How is that vector applied to the position of the object?
06:58 <Finwe> The impulse given by the force is going to be the (linear) momentum of the object.
06:58 <Cepheid> Is it direct and full, or is it proportional to the rotation in some manner?
06:59 <Finwe> That conservation law gives you the motion of the centre of mass of the object.
06:59 <Finwe> Then there's the completely separate conservation of angular momentum.
07:00 <Cepheid> When the vector is centered and pointing at the center of mass, the motion is easy for me to understand.
07:00 <Finwe> Calculated as I described before.
07:00 <Cepheid> It's when it's off-centered or not in the direction of the center of mass.
07:01 <Finwe> There is no total momentum = linear momentum + angualr momentum law.
07:01 <Finwe> *angular
07:01 <Cepheid> Let me start by expressing the problem I see, so you can further understand my confusion.
07:02 <Cepheid> To start, let's assume no rotation for the time being, to make things easier.
07:04 <Cepheid> Now, when that impulse is aligned with, and pointing to, the center of mass, the problem is trivial. You simply do some math with the object's velocity. It's simple and easy.
07:04 <Cepheid> But say, for example, the impulse is not aligned with the center of mass, and not pointing towards the center of mass.
07:04 <Cepheid> Is the effect of the impulse on velocity/momentum/etc in any way changed as compared to when the impulse is aligned with and pointing to the center of mass?
07:05 <Finwe> No, it does not affect the very fundamental law of conservation of linear momentum.
07:05 <Cepheid> Assume that the impulse is being applied to a point on the surface of the square. That is, it is NOT uniform across the entire surface.
07:06 <Cepheid> See, the reason I'm confused has to do with the following example I'm gonna draw out. Give me a moment.
07:06 <Finwe> Whether there is torque or not relative to your chosen point of reference does not affect the linear momentum.
07:07 <Finwe> You can always choose the point of reference to be the point where the force is applied, in which case there will be no torque and no angular momentum relative to that point.
07:08 <Cepheid> http://www.oneeyeclosed.ca/example2.png Let's look at this example space ship. Again, assuming no rotation. The left engine is weaker than the right engine. Assuming no rotation, should this object not be drifting to the left due to the lack of balanced forces?
07:09 <Cepheid> Simple yes or no will suffice.
07:10 <Finwe> I don't think it would "drift". It should undergo some kind of circular motion, if the engines produce thrust all the time.
07:11 <Cepheid> Okay, thanks.
07:11 <Finwe> But that would not be a static case, as the forces change over time.
07:11 <Cepheid> I was under the assumption that forces pushed towards the center of mass, regardless of their facing. It seems that is not the case.
07:13 <PinkieShy> Danng..
07:13 <Cepheid> It is apparently a combination of linear momentum and angular momentum that gives me that impression.
07:13 <PinkieShy> Just used a antivirus scan tool thing to see if i was hacked ever on my Emails..
07:13 <PinkieShy> Apparently my password i thought was never hacked was hacked multiple times..
07:14 <PinkieShy> about 27 times altogether..
07:14 <PinkieShy> Yeaah.. I think i need to change all my passwords to something very very hard to figure out and quick..
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07:22 <PinkieShy> I must have serious bad luck lol
07:22 <Ali> Funny none of mine do that.
07:27 * Finwe hats on Ali.
07:27 <PinkieShy> Either way, I'm beefing up my PC security possibly.
07:27 * Ali eeps
07:28 <PinkieShy> Oh Finwe, Apparently the thing i got is common it seems.. The email i had found a reddit with like a bunch of people with it too
07:28 <PinkieShy> a ton of people there said its a common scam scare thing lol
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07:29 <Cepheid> Sorry, was rebooting my VPS.
07:29 <Cepheid> Anyways, thanks Finwe.
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07:31 <ConfusionRift> Hello everypony.
07:31 <Cepheid> Of course, now the remaining question is how to apply the impulse correctly with respect to the center of mass.
07:31 <Cepheid> Hey Rifty.
07:31 <ConfusionRift> Hey there.
07:33 <Cepheid> The problem I now face is in relation to... bah, it's hard to express. Drawing time again!
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07:34 <PinkieShy> I'm going to bed.. >_> That was enough of a scare for one night..
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07:40 * ConfusionRift is a plushie. :P
07:40 * Finwe snuggles the ConfusionRift plushie.
07:41 <Finwe> Lt Cdr PlushieRift.
07:41 <Finwe> o7
07:44 <Cepheid> http://www.oneeyeclosed.ca/example3.png So with application of impulses for rotation, which of these diagrams would be considered "correct"?
07:45 <Finwe> Cepheid: It just appeared to me that you might have been thinking of kinetic energy instead of momentum and angular momentum earlier, because kinetic energy _is_ divided betwixt angular and linear motion.
07:45 <Cepheid> Possibly.
07:46 <Cepheid> Because the issue I see is that if you apply force to a point on a simple cube, if it's not centered and directed towards the center of mass, should it not cause some drifting towards the opposite direction?
07:46 <Cepheid> But that only seems to make sense if the resulting vector is pointing TOWARDS the center of mass.
07:46 <Cepheid> I'm not sure what would happen if say, the vector was directed away from it.
07:47 <Finwe> Cepheid: The cube cannot change the direction of the net momentum, unless it can produce a force to do so.
07:48 <Cepheid> I wish I had graph paper to demonstrate more clearly what I'm trying to express. It's clear my language is entirely unable to express what I'm trying to say.
07:48 <Finwe> In diagram b, the radius of the circle is the proper distance between the line along which the impulse is applied and the centre of mass.
07:49 <Cepheid> That's what I figured.
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07:54 <Cepheid> So, let me try once more with words for the earlier problem. Cartesian coordinate system. You have a square, it's 1 by 1 in dimensions, with it's left and bottom edge placed at X = 0 and Y = 0 respectively. It's mass is 1 newton. Center of mass is (0.5, 0.5)). You apply a force vector of (0, 10) to the point at (0.5, 0.5), on the square. This is the simple case, for me. The vector is pointing towards the center of mass,
07:54 <Cepheid> and is aligned with it. It is obvious that it will move upwards.
07:55 <Finwe> Newton is unit of force, not mass.
07:55 <Cepheid> Er, (0.5, 0.0)
07:55 * Cepheid sighs.
07:55 <Cepheid> Right, right.
07:55 <Cepheid> But you know where I'm going with this at least, right?
07:56 <Cepheid> There is force being applied directly to the point immediately below the center of mass. Thus, it should move vertically, either up or down, depending on the direction the force is being applied.
07:56 <Cepheid> And the amount of change is easy to calculate.
07:56 <Cepheid> So, let's change the situation.
07:56 <Cepheid> The point on the square at which the force is now being applied to is (0.75, 0.0). This is 0.25 units to the right of the center of mass, but still on the same edge.
07:57 <Cepheid> Will the square still move in the same direction? Will it have more or less speed? Or is there absolutely no difference from the case of applying force at (0.5, 0.0)?
07:59 <Finwe> Are these impulses given instantaneously?
07:59 <Cepheid> Assume constant.
07:59 <Cepheid> As in, it's a constant thrust being applied.
08:00 <Finwe> So you apply a constant force to the same point in a coordinate system bound to the square?
08:01 <Cepheid> More or less.
08:03 <Cepheid> The problem I'm having is that every textbook on physics I've read only ever talks about forces being applied towards the center of mass of an object, or in one universal direction.
08:03 <Finwe> Then, in your "absolute" coordinate system the force is no longer constant.
08:03 <Cepheid> I'm curious about a different case which I can find little information on.
08:04 <Cepheid> So, for example, the common textbook depictions are a vector(or just an arrow in general) with it's tip attached to the edge of say, a circle, and pointing directly in towards the center of the circle.
08:04 <Cepheid> This is a trivial case for physics. I can understand it, no problem.
08:05 <Cepheid> The other case commonly shown, is assuming some sort of external force being applied universally across the entire width or height of the object, in one direction. Again, a simple case.
08:08 <Finwe> That's called pressure.
08:08 <Cepheid> http://www.oneeyeclosed.ca/example4.png A is the example wherein the force being applied is directed at the center of gravity. B is the example of a force that goes from left to right, but covers the entire object.
08:08 <Cepheid> The case I'm curious about is C.
08:08 <Cepheid> Where the force is applied to the edge, but not directly pointing at the center of mass.
08:08 <Cepheid> Is this going to affect how the object moves?
08:09 <Cepheid> As in, do you A) Simply translate the object in the same manner as A and B, without consideration as to where the force is being applied? Or B) Does the position and location of where the force is being applied matter?
08:10 <Cepheid> I can't wrap my head around how this is supposed to work.
08:10 <Finwe> If you want to preserve the point and angle of incidence, it's going to be a dynamical system.
08:11 <Finwe> If you just give a single impulse in zero time, the linear momentum is going to be the same regardless of where the impulse is given.
08:11 * Cepheid screams in frustration.
08:12 <Cepheid> Finwe, let us assume, for example, that the vector in C is being applied at the same point, in the same direction, relative to the position and orientation of the object.
08:13 <Cepheid> For example, a space ship with an engine rigidly attached, running at full, constant burn.
08:13 <Cepheid> Obviously, since there is an imbalance, it'd rotate. But there also has to be translation involved as well.
08:14 <Finwe> Yes.
08:14 <Cepheid> How do I determine how much of the thrust affects rotation, and how much affects motion, and on top of that, in which direction would the motion go?
08:14 <Cepheid> Physics textbooks only ever seem to assume equally balanced forces across the object, or a single point force parallel to and pointing directly at the center of mass.
08:15 <Cepheid> As a result, those cases are simple.
08:15 <Finwe> Which textbook do you have? Young & Freedman?
08:15 <Cepheid> I don't have it on me right not on hand.
08:17 <Finwe> In the situation you described you're going to have a system of differential equations which you solve in order to get the trajectory, acceleration and angular acceleration.
08:18 <Cepheid> Acceleration and angular acceleration are the easy cases. Acceleration is the sum of net forces divided by the mass of the object. Angular acceleration's a bit trickier. It's the trajectory I can't figure out.
08:18 <Cepheid> Because nothing I am aware of covers case C in my previous example.
08:18 <Cepheid> Only case A, and case B.
08:19 <Cepheid> When discussing angular stuff, they assume a fixed point, so no translation, just rotation.
08:19 <Cepheid> When discussing translational physics, they only do either forces directly applied to the center of mass, or forces applied in a set direction uniformly across the object.
08:20 <Cepheid> In no textbooks, online and offline, that I've read, do any of them consider the case wherein a force is being applied to a point, and not directly facing the center of mass.
08:20 <Finwe> Try Fetter-Walecka: Theoretical Mechanics of Particles and Continua
08:21 <Finwe> We had that one for our course on theoretical mechanics.
08:21 <Finwe> It also explains the Lagrangian dynamics.
08:21 <Cepheid> Because if you apply a force off-centered, and not facing the center of mass, the object, by examination, should not move straight ahead. Rotation would occur, but rotation is considered separate from translation.
08:22 <Finwe> Newtonian dynamics tend to yield an awful number of equations.
08:22 <Cepheid> So how would that object move in the absence of a rotation?
08:22 <Cepheid> One would assume that it'd move partly in one axis, and partly in the other.
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08:29 <Cepheid> http://www.oneeyeclosed.ca/example5.png
08:29 <Cepheid> This is what I'm trying to understand. I don't care about the rotation. I don't care about anything else. I just want to know, in the presence of an unbalanced, constant force, what would the motion be?
08:30 <Cepheid> One would assume that because it's off-center from the center of mass, and being applied to a point rather than uniformly across the object, that it would drift forward and to the left.
08:30 <Cepheid> But that is an assumption.
08:30 <Cepheid> None of my current texts explain what would happen.
08:30 <Cepheid> They assume either that the force is being applied in such a way that it's directed to the center of mass explicitly, or that it's uniform across the entire object.
08:31 <Cepheid> A force applied in the way demonstrated must have a different effect from both of these.
08:33 <Cepheid> Presumably, some of the force would be applied to rotation, but in a non-fixed-point system, there would also be a translation.
08:35 <Cepheid> I don't know how else to explain this problem any simpler, and quite frankly I'm starting to get frustrated.
08:37 <Cepheid> Between being harassed on a regular basis about things by certain folks, my cats refusing to ****ing leave me be, the headaches I keep getting which are agonizing, and what I thought would be simple physics problems throwing me for a loop, and my crippling inability to communicate stuff to others is begging to tear at my sanity and patience.
08:40 <Cepheid> I'm also utterly frustrated in that no one seems to grasp how important working on my projects is. I'm always getting razzed for snapping at people because despite the clear and obvious sign that I AM WORKING that it is their god-given right to distract me, to bother me, to ping me, to harass me.
08:40 <Cepheid> For gods. Bloody sake. I. AM. WORKING.
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08:41 <Cepheid> Just because I'm not at an office means that I'm free to talk, to discuss stuff, to slack off.
08:41 <Cepheid> I'm not like my parents who's jobs are so simple that they can do them while talking to others.
08:41 <Cepheid> I am trying to think, trying to problem solve. I need peace and quiet, no distractions.
08:41 <Finwe> Example 5. If the object has infinite inertial moment, it will not rotate and it will move in the direction of the thrust.
08:41 <Cepheid> Leave me, the **** alone.
08:42 * Cepheid is losing it.
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08:42 <Cepheid> I'm tired of people getting upset at me when I tell them I'm busy, and progressively get more and more irritated as they continue to bug me.
08:42 <Cepheid> Thinking that just 'cause I'm sitting there, typing away at my laptop, means that I'm not working.
08:43 <Cepheid> Worst part is, they never ask anything about my work.
08:43 <Cepheid> So when they're bugging me, it's not about my work.
08:43 <Finwe> You can always consider the case in the inertial frame of reference of the object, in which there will be no rotation or translation.
08:44 <Finwe> On the other hoof, gravitation and some other force fields would be observed.
08:44 <Cepheid> It's about what I want for dinner(I can take care of myself), what groceries I want(I can walk to a grocery store to pick things out for myself if need be, of course I Can't do this right now..), about whether I want to play Factorio, or some other game. Maybe about how to fix a problem they can't solve because they can't bloody figure out Google. GAH.
08:44 <Cepheid> I'm going to be 34 years old. I still live with my parents under their roof, I don't pay rent, I pay my upkeep in chores.
08:45 <Cepheid> I am the worst example of a single human white male in existence.
08:45 <Cepheid> I know that, to alleviate this, I need a job.
08:45 <Cepheid> But in order to get a job, I have to prove myself first.
08:45 <Cepheid> In order to prove myself, I need to complete projects.
08:45 <Cepheid> In order to complete projects, I have to work.
08:45 <Cepheid> In order to work, people have to learn to **** off when I'm busy.
08:46 <Finwe> Ah, the usual roulette. All jobs require working experience. Working experience is only gained by getting a job. Where do I start?
08:47 <Cepheid> I want to stab myself in the hand right now with a steak knife.
08:47 <Cepheid> I'm reaching a breaking point, and I'm frustrated with myself over it, so I feel like I deserve punishment, as per how my broken mental health works.
08:47 <Cepheid> I want to do something painful but not lethal.
08:48 <Cepheid> My mind is going in spirals, telling me I deserve it because I'm suck a ****-up, among other things.
08:48 <Cepheid> And of course I can't tell my parents, they're asleep. Can't wake them up either, because that'll annoy them. Even if it didn't, they be assholes and ask the usual ****ing question of "Did you take your meds?" OF COURSE I BLEEDING TOOK THEM.
08:49 <Cepheid> Why the hell would I intentionally not take medication meant to help alleviate or slow these episodes?
08:51 <Cepheid> I actually want to catch COVID-19, because it'd put me in a hospital, and isolate me from my parents for a while.
08:51 <Cepheid> I'm getting tired of living with them.
08:51 <Cepheid> I want to move out..
08:51 <Cepheid> And not just because I think I should, being nearly 34-years-old and there are plenty of single people that age quite able to live on their own, but because I really, really don't want to be around my parents anymore.
08:51 <Cepheid> I love them, I do.
08:51 <Cepheid> And I'd go insane if anything happened to them.
08:52 <Cepheid> But I can't stand their presence anymore.
08:53 <Cepheid> They don't understand *YAY* about what I do, so there's no point in talking about it to them. That's why I just randomly talk about it elsewhere. No one here generally tells me to stop.
08:53 <Cepheid> Meanwhile, my parents basically go "Andrew?" and then follow up with a *WHOOSH* hand motion, and go "Over my head." and that's the end of that.
08:53 <Cepheid> Meanwhile, I have to listen to my parents yammer about stuff that I know nothing about, but being the nice person I try to be, I just nod my head or ignore what they're saying and continue what I'm doing.
08:55 <Cepheid> And it's getting worse dealing with them because both of them, unlike me, are unused to being locked inside the house for extended periods.
08:55 <Cepheid> My dad's way of destressing is to drive around in the car. That's why his job doesn't really take a toll on him, because he's always driving, often to far destinations. He enjoys it.
08:56 <Cepheid> My mother meanwhile is going absolutely nuts. She's starting to panic constantly, and every now and then kinda gets upset when either me or my dad say something.
08:56 <Cepheid> And good gods, the cats with my parents.
08:57 <Cepheid> The reason I'm always being bothered by the cats is that neither of my parents are willing to keep their bedroom doors open to let the cats in. My dad, because he snorse and it bothers my mother. My mother, because... unknown reasons.
08:57 <Cepheid> But every now and then I always hear Tizzy meowing at one of the doors, and the respective adult getting upset and yelling at the cat angrily.
08:57 <Cepheid> Then I have to go pick up the cat and drag them away from the door, which, invariably, causes them to bug me for attention, taking away from anything I am currently doing.
08:57 <Cepheid> I cannot stand this house.
08:58 <Cepheid> I cope with it just by basically bottling up all my frustration, all my anger, all the annoyance I feel.
08:58 <Cepheid> Then let it burst every three to four weeks.
08:58 <Cepheid> My parents have literally started tracking when it happens, they can determine almost to the exact day when it will happemn.
09:00 * Finwe uses Ali as an umbrella.
09:00 <Cepheid> I'm gonna go take some tylenol.
09:02 <Cepheid> Oh, I'd love to stab a knife into my hand. But if I did that, I'd end up on suicide watch and in a hospital probably. And my mother would rather I not end up in a hospital. Even if I started exhibiting all the symptoms of COVID-19. She would rather I just hide the symptoms from the public.
09:03 <Cepheid> WHich, to me, is further proof that even if I could afford to move out, it isn't really my choice.
09:03 <Cepheid> Her reasoning for not wanting me to go to a hospital is that she wouldn't be able to see or talk to me.
09:03 <Cepheid> It gives me the strong sense that she relies on my continued presence to remain mentally well.
09:05 <Ali> Can we please stop
09:09 <Cepheid> Sure.
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09:37 <Cepheid> Finwe: So, basically, in a gravity-less, vacuum situation, applying a constant force upon a point of an object will cause it to move in that direction, regardless of where the force is applied?
09:46 <Finwe> Yes, if you just give a delta impulse.
09:47 <Finwe> If you have a force that is constant in a frame of reference bound to the object, then it's not that simple.
09:48 <Finwe> If the force acts along a line through the centre of mass of the object, then we're going to have accelerating linear motion.
09:49 <Finwe> But if you deviate the force from that line, an outside observer is going to observe rotation and curvilinear motion.
09:50 <Finwe> My guess is that those spaceship examples you described would lead to some kind of spiral.
09:52 <Finwe> And given more degrees of freedom, the variety of what you can get grows a lot.
10:05 <Cepheid> Okay then.
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11:08 <Cepheid> Interesting. The RSA MD5 and SHA256 fingerprints of my VPS match what Dreamhost gives me, but the ECDSA MD5 and SHA256 fingerprints do not.
11:28 <Cepheid> Hum, it seems to be an issue with the report of the dreamhost panel. Examining the files manually via commandline shows that they are, in fact, correct.
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11:45 <Cepheid> The next bit of fun with physics: Are linear and angular physics applied separately? Or at the same time? If separately, in what order? Do I rotate the object first, then apply linear motion? Or the other way around?
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13:06 <Cepheid> So, thinking back on earlier, I don't know why I would think that applying force to an object off-center, without rotation, would result in anything odd. If the object is rigid and doesn't rotate, any force applied to it would be treated as if it was uniform applied across the object.
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15:52 <Schism> Aw, damnit.
15:52 <Schism> John Conway has passed on. :(
16:01 <Cepheid> https://www.reddit.com/r/MadeMeSmile/comments/fzurt9/its_cute/
16:02 <Schism> Cepheid: Heh.
16:02 <Schism> Also, John Conway should be a familiar name to you.
16:04 <Cepheid> https://i.imgur.com/YcjgXEs.jpg
16:04 <Cepheid> Unfortunately, stars names are a thing I do not keep track of.
16:04 <Cepheid> Ah.
16:04 <Schism> Different kind of star.
16:04 <Cepheid> Conway's Game of Life.
16:04 <Schism> Yup.
16:05 <Cepheid> Cause of death?
16:05 <Schism> The plague.
16:05 <Cepheid> Terrible way to go.
16:05 <Schism> Well, I use that euphemistically, it's COVID-19.
16:06 <Cepheid> I know.
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16:06 <Cepheid> At this point, I pretty much consider COVID-19 to be the modern version of "The Plague"
16:08 * Schism brings a cart around, shouting, "Bring out your dead! Bring out your dead!"
16:09 * Cepheid throws his father onto the cart.
16:09 <Cepheid> <Dad> "I'm not dead!"
16:09 <Schism> Ere, he says he's not dead.
16:09 * Cepheid whacks him with a blackjack.
16:09 <Cepheid> Care to differ?
16:09 <Schism> Right, three pence.
16:09 * Cepheid gives six. "A tip."
16:11 <Schism> Er, nine pence. XD;
16:11 <Schism> "I'm getting better!" "No, you're not, you'll be stone dead in a moment."
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16:52 <Cepheid> So, officially, the Doomguy's actual name in-lore is... Doomguy.
16:52 <Schism> ... Sure, that tracks.
16:53 <Schism> That would be from the South Dakota Doomguys.
17:00 <Cepheid> !link https://youtu.be/AQdVxsxTLoQ I don't remember DOOM being this violent.
17:00 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.
17:00 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Brutal Doom v20 Longplay - Episode 1: Knee Deep in the Dead
17:00 <Schism> Brutal DOOM is a step above. o3o
17:01 <Schism> hum. SAM55.
17:03 <Cepheid> I'm waiting to finish vanilla DOOM before I pull in mods.
17:06 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Makenshi: Make The World Like Equestria Music: Mandopony - Long Way From Equestria (Brilliant Venture & xRILLZEW's Festival Bootleg) [Melodic Dubstep] [ http://tinyurl.com/wkxq8og ]
17:08 <Cepheid> You know id played Brutal DOOM, given the glory kills and excessive blood. Unfortunately, due to limitations, the corpses and blood don't persist as long in DOOM 2016.
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17:09 <Cepheid> Benefits of an ancient game on superpowered(relative to the time) machines I guess.
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17:26 <Cepheid> Given the number of enemies you east through, the whole 'rip and tear' motif really does suit the Doomguy in DOOM 1 and 2
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17:40 <Schism|Alt> Ostensibly finished rebooting router, heh.
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17:40 <ADragonDreaming> My computer apparently does not like that I tried to switch graphics cards. At all.
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17:45 <Cepheid> Bah.
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17:57 <Cepheid> I am either extremely desensitized to violence, or too bloody tired to care.
18:16 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Pinkie Pie Wants to Play!' 🕺🏼Stop Motion Short Ep. 12 [ http://tinyurl.com/vmghd5m ]
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19:01 * Schism|Alt throws a plush opossom at Cepheid. Its name is Tiberius.
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19:06 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Penny Wrights: Equestria Girls: Text Support Follow Up [ http://tinyurl.com/umsvj4o ]
19:09 <Finwe> o3o
19:09 <Finwe> Miss Filly_Nightmares, Mr Schism.
19:09 * Finwe doffs his hat.
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20:15 * Schism snrks at Azulmagia.
20:18 <Schism> Cepheid: There is a boss in FF5 which will happily eat any blue magic you use against it, and return the favour.
20:19 * Ali noms Schism ear
20:36 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Fanfiction: Rainbooms and Royalty (Remastered) (Update Complete!) [ http://tinyurl.com/rdvh5u3 ]
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20:49 <Schism> Mmm, umbral flarestone.
20:50 <Schism> "Red hot to the touch, which makes it a b#$(%* to carry."
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21:06 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Tara Strong Notes That Twilight Sparkle Won't Return for MLP Generation 5 During Stream [ http://tinyurl.com/ueoy2pu ]
21:11 <Ali> Nuu not my Sparklebutt
21:39 * Filly_Nightmares kneads Ali butt
21:39 * Filly_Nightmares meows and kneads Schism for warm
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21:42 * Schism places a pot of tea on Filly_Nightmares' back!
21:43 * Filly_Nightmares eees at Schism and melt!
21:43 * Filly_Nightmares has cold hoovesies!
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21:45 * Filly_Nightmares sticks her cold hoovesies into Ali warm belly floof
22:06 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Drawfriend Stuff (Pony Art Gallery) #3308 [ http://tinyurl.com/yx6x3398 ]
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23:50 * Ali just grabs PrincessRainbows and hugs her tightly.
23:52 * PrincessRainbows licks a bit and makes happy little horse noises
23:55 <PinkieShy> After the scare last night.. I beefed up my PC security now.
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