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00:37 <Ali> GALAXY SWORD
00:40 * Schism makes a celebratory sound!
00:41 <Ali> Was hunting for ghosts but a bat dropped a prismatic shard
00:59 <Schism> That random drop is always a delight. And now you can kill more things!
01:02 <Ali> Blue slimes die in two hits
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04:18 <PinkieShy> You know this has to be the worse possible name for a fish.. Sushie..
04:18 <PinkieShy> Sounds like you are planning on eating him/she.. o_o
04:20 <Ali> Eh, they did it to paper mario
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04:21 <PinkieShy> Ali Yes i know.. Still though.
04:21 <PinkieShy> Sounds like Mario or the Yoshi's want to eat Sushie the fish..
04:45 <PinkieShy> I need to 100% this game tbh.
04:46 <PinkieShy> I never done that.. I mean i beat bowser yes, but as of collect all the badges, all the star pieces, super blocks.. that would be a super Nnope!
05:07 <Nuclear> I want more Trump bucks
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06:29 <Ali> What is 14 like? Is it boring? Grindy? Too many people wanting to mass murder you when you don't want to PvP?
06:30 <Schism> Neh, PvP is kind of a non-starter for the most part, though some folks get into it.
06:31 <Schism> Boring... sometimes. Grindy, definitely, but only when you're going after the rest of the classes you've been neglecting. If you take it casually, it's pretty laid back and sensible. And the playerbase is chill.
06:31 <Schism> Grindy in terms of tradeskills, absolutely, but that's the nature of tradeskills.
06:32 <Schism> Big thing about FFXIV is that it's heavily, -heavily- story-driven, but there are a lot of folks who think you should just skip the storyline in, for example, the raid dungeons.
06:32 <Schism> In which case you'll lose like half the point of future quests.
06:33 <Schism> So you want some friends to run it with.
06:33 <Ali> Right, but just MMO's scare me as I've mentioned before
06:34 <Ali> And I've been jumped and ganked by PVPers more than I'd like to deal with
06:34 <Schism> Fair enough. Unless you're in a static raid group, you won't run into a lot of people who are all "RAR YOUR DPS IS SUBOPTIMAL!", and PvP is constrained to limited zones.
06:34 <Ali> And I've had some really bad experiences in MMOs that make me...scared of doing MMOs again.
06:35 <Schism> It's all opt-in, and sometimes is fun.
06:35 <Ali> Yes but if I want to fish in a zone
06:35 <Ali> And then suddenly its PVP ON due to some random event
06:35 <Ali> And hten some level capped son of a *yay* drops on yoru head and one shots you and hten camps your ass for three hours.
06:35 <Schism> You're golden, don't worry. PVP is not ever on in random zones. It's limited to the one PvP arena, and certain duties.
06:36 <Ali> Stupid Wintergrasp...
06:36 <Golden> Oof
06:36 <Schism> Even if jerks run a train, the mobs are going to be ignoring you and going back home before they take a bite out of your face.
06:36 <Schism> The in-game reason is that PvP is all wargames.
06:37 <Schism> So you don't get Limsa, Ul'dah and Gridania running ridiculous campaigns of hatred against one another.
06:37 <Ali> My biggest peave of WoW was if you FP'd thru Wintergrasp, it autoflagged you for PVP
06:37 <Ali> So you'd have to wait out 5 minutes to drop it
06:37 <Schism> Eugh. Well, none of that here.
06:38 <Ali> Or pray to god some hordie/human doesn't jump your ass after you land at the FM
06:38 * Schism gasps at Ali. "What, you played Horde?"
06:38 <Ali> No I was Ally
06:38 <Schism> I joke, of course.
06:38 <Ali> But a certain busted friendship now makes it next to impossible to play those older ally characters
06:38 <Schism> Egh, right. .-.
06:39 <Ali> Not like I can WoW either
06:39 <Ali> WIth nobody to play with and a crippling fear of people in an MMO, I can't function very well
06:39 <Schism> Well, some FF14 servers are kind of meh. Coeurl, we make a point of being pretty friendly all in all, and not jerking folks around.
06:39 <Schism> Tho there will always be some trolls.
06:39 <Ali> Trolls you can ignore
06:40 <Ali> But I don't converse with people, it scares me
06:40 <Ali> I did kill shit, get things done, move on
06:40 <Schism> Yup. For newbies, we generally welcome them, pat them on the back, and give them 999 oranges.
06:40 <Ali> But now I don't want to group, or do dungeons or anything
06:40 <Schism> (+3% exp. food.)
06:40 <Ali> And wow forces you later on to go into dungeons to progress the stupid story
06:41 <Schism> Mm... yeah, I'm afraid you'd have to do that with FFXIV as well. Only 4-person dungeons, and 8-person bosses at most.
06:41 <Ali> Want to work on your legendary item? Too bad, do heroic this dungeon first
06:41 <Ali> See the problem is I don't always know what I'm doing
06:41 <Ali> And with the whole RUSH LEVEL RUSH LOOT RUSH KILL thing now in MMOs
06:41 <Ali> They don't give you time to try and understand things
06:42 <Schism> If you let people in FFXIV know that, then they'll cut you slack. Just say, "Hey, this is my first time here, any pointers?" and they'll help you out. Especially since there's a bonus given to a party which runs a newbie through.
06:42 <Ali> You might be half dead and out of mana and the MT is running forward hacking everything they can find cause their gear is all decked out for max level speed and they don't need heals.
06:43 <Schism> Heh. Unless you're running unsynced, that's not going to happen in FFXIV. Though some maintanks will rush through regardless and, subsequently, die.
06:43 <Ali> That's what used to happen
06:43 <Schism> We call these people 'jerks' and kick them from the party.
06:43 <Ali> The MT couldnt' tank everything
06:43 <Schism> If the MT doesn't ask the healer first, they deserve their 10% equipment ding.
06:43 <Ali> But they made gear in WoW that you could equip at lvl 1 and it scales
06:43 <Ali> That was really OP
06:44 <Ali> I've been torn between playing the healer class or the tank. Not fond of tanking but healing at least would make me feel useful at times.
06:44 <Schism> Oh, in FFXIV sometimes you'll get a tank who runs gear at 5-7 levels below the dungeon's optimal. We also call these people 'jerks', especially when they don't let the rest of the party know that they're running a complete set of right-side gear at 260 instead of the 300 suggested.
06:44 <Ali> Just WoW healers struggle with leveling alone
06:45 <Schism> FFXIV healers get instapop queues, so. :3
06:45 <Ali> Yes I'm sure
06:45 <Schism> Well, there's no harm in trying a healer for a little while, one way or the other. A single character can run every single class.
06:46 <Ali> I'm sure but...again MMOs scare me Schism
06:46 <Schism> I know, and that's hard to break after a bad experience.
06:46 <Schism> I was kind of antithetical to tanks specifically because of that.
06:47 <Ali> Not to mention the costs. I'd almost rather play multiplayer stardew than an MMO...
06:47 <Ali> Bleh, just talking about it has made me want to just stay away from it.
06:47 <Schism> That's fair. There is a free trial up to level 35, but even then, yeah.
06:48 <Schism> In the meantime, have a ridiculous image. https://twitter.com/wrathofgnon/status/1250287741247426565
06:49 <Ali> That's also one reason I just can't do Fallout 76 another go
06:49 <Ali> It has forced PvP
06:49 <Ali> So anytime a player comes around me, I get instantly scared
06:49 * Schism nods. :<
06:49 <Ali> Since any time you're killed, you drop all your junk
06:49 <Schism> That's part of why I can't really play Dark Souls.
06:50 <Ali> So they kill you, take all your gathered stuff, and run off
06:50 <Schism> Just part of it being a LIVE SERVICE experience, Ali!
06:50 * Schism blechs.
06:50 <Ali> Yes but they can't make a server non PVP
06:50 <Ali> Cause FALLOUT FIRST
06:50 <Ali> $100 a year please
06:51 <Ali> Love how one of the tags it got was Capitolism
06:51 <Schism> It's not wrong.
06:52 <Ali> Also another thing about 14
06:52 <Ali> Is that it has a DLC...
06:52 <Schism> Which one in particular?
06:53 <Ali> Shadowbringers
06:53 <Schism> All the DLC is non-essential. I've never purchased a leveling bonus, I've never picked up a store mount, and all the clothing on the store... okay, I've picked up -one- article of clothing, a swimsuit.
06:53 <Schism> Oh, that's an expansion.
06:53 <Ali> Still DLC in a way
06:53 <Schism> Yeah, but you look at WoW in comparison...
06:53 <Ali> They don't charge you anymore for older xpacs
06:54 <Ali> I could get the next expansion and play again but...
06:54 <Schism> Yeah, because they can't get away with it anymore. And FFXIV no longer charges for Heavensward/Stormblood in that sense.
06:54 <Ali> The fact that the WoW token exists..
06:54 <Ali> Its an interesting idea
06:54 <Ali> But they've made the cost so damn high its... unreachable
06:55 <Schism> It is perfectly reasonable to be leery over the idea of Stormblood as the current endgame. There's still a huge chunk of game before that, but yeah.
06:55 <Ali> So Schism the current cost of a WoW token for in game gold
06:55 <Ali> US:118,227g
06:56 <Schism> Impressive. Reminds me of the ship which got scuttled with thousands of EVE Online tokens.
06:56 <Ali> See I'm bad at the game
06:56 <Ali> I've rarely ever at 10k gold on hand at any time
06:57 <Ali> How the HELL could I make 20 times that in thirty days..
06:57 <Schism> Good question. I'm imagining bots are the big thing there.
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06:57 <Ali> I don't know, apperently everybody is moneybags as well and basic low level resources go for hundreds of gold
06:57 <Schism> I'm not especially rich either. The only time I've had over 20 million gil was right before I bought my house... and that rendered me bankrupt for a time. I'm only up to 2.5 million gil, which while a comfortable level of finance is no great shakes.
06:58 <Schism> FFXIV also doesn't do the whole player token for gil thing.
06:58 <Ali> Like say a stack of 20 copper ore might be going for 130g
06:58 <Ali> You don't have to do much to get that much copper
06:58 <Ali> And its everywhere in starter zones and the like
06:58 <Schism> That is kind of where you say 'screw it' and just abuse the inflatable market.
06:59 <Ali> How do you do that when you can't make any money?
06:59 * Ali flops, not sure why she's even still talking about MMOs
06:59 <Schism> You start with the low-end materials and trade up.
06:59 <Ali> Nobody in their right mind would touch WoW over 14
06:59 <Schism> Like, okay, in FFXIV, steel ingots will sell on the market for 600 a pop. The NPC sale price is something like 280.
07:00 <Schism> Anyone with a brain can make use of that, but few people have one.
07:00 <Schism> Even lower than that, iron ingots will typically sell on the market for 5 times their NPC price.
07:01 <Schism> Flipping low end materials is how many players start developing a nest egg.
07:01 <Ali> Yes but Schism you don't have a gold/silver/copper level of issue
07:01 <Ali> Vendoring copper ore would be like 5 copper
07:02 <Ali> But selling it on the AH could be like 100-200g if I had to guess.
07:02 <Schism> True. There are sales taxes, but they're post-sale.
07:02 <Ali> Even Wow has that
07:02 <Schism> Heh, on top of listing fees? The goblins are getting their money's worth.
07:02 <Ali> but selling an item who's value is so low, and AHing it for inflated prices
07:03 <Schism> The dismal science, indeed.
07:03 <Ali> Ok Schism
07:04 <Ali> Copper ore's vendor price is 5 copper
07:04 <Schism> I did play WoW for a while, so I know the copper/silver/gold/platinum thing.
07:04 <Ali> Buyout price for copper ore 4g
07:04 <Schism> Or, in other words, 40,000 copper.
07:04 <Ali> Now I'm sure the demand is next to nothing
07:05 <Ali> But no newbie player should be forced to pay that much for a basic material
07:05 <Schism> Agreed. Even at its worst, the market exchange rate for olive oil was something like 300g/pop for an 8g item.
07:06 <Schism> And that was for an event, and it was ridiculous and most players would just ask their friends for a bit.
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07:06 <Ali> Still, its things like that that make it hard for me to deal with an MMO
07:06 <Schism> Having friends helps. And there are a lot of really good free companies which will help you out with that basic stuff.
07:06 <Ali> Being a single player in a game full of rip offs makes it hard to progress anything
07:07 <Ali> Though in WoW, professions are kind of a joke
07:07 <Ali> They're all useless in some way, shape, or form
07:07 <Schism> Heh, in FFXIV they're the key to the toptier equipment.
07:07 <Schism> Practically nothing beats a full set of melded Neo-Ishgardian equipment at the moment.
07:07 <Ali> They haven't been in WoW since the handing out of free epic/legenary/artifact stuff started in Wrath
07:08 <Ali> Like an entire expansion ruined the weaponsmithing profession due to artifact weapons
07:08 <Ali> Nobody ever had to buy a melee weapon
07:08 * Schism presses H to pay respects.
07:08 <Schism> Er, F.
07:08 <Schism> Either way, yeah.
07:08 <Ali> Like I said
07:08 <Schism> Well, we knew that WoW was bad. Bleh.
07:08 <Ali> There is like two professions that have never died
07:09 <Ali> Alchemy and Enchanting
07:09 <Ali> The rest are pretty much worthless
07:09 <Ali> People are always gonna need their raid candy
07:09 <Ali> as well as needing to put extra buffs onto their equipment
07:09 <Schism> Naturally.
07:09 <Ali> Other than that
07:10 <Ali> Tailoring/Blacksmithing/Jewelcrafting
07:10 <Schism> FFXIV has materia, which act as item enchantments. As you use equipment, you can eventually refine materia out of them, which tends to be based on the equipment's substats.
07:10 <Ali> And like four other professions are all worthless
07:10 <Ali> And LFR didn't help some of that either
07:10 <Schism> You can then bolster equpiment based on the craftskill required for the item to be crafted/desynthesized.
07:10 <Ali> Cause you can just gimp your way into LFR and get carried for gear
07:10 <Schism> So cloth armour requires you have a level of Weaver, leather armour, Leatherworker, most weapons, Blacksmith, etc.
07:11 <Ali> Sorry I'm ranting so heavily
07:11 <Schism> That's alright, I appreciate the need for a good rant.
07:11 <Ali> Just don't get to just chat chat about anything, even if it is something I'm scared of.
07:11 <Schism> If there's one thing about FFXIV, it's the failure rates for boosting items with materia.
07:12 <Schism> You know those MMOs when there's like a 10% chance to give an item a +1?
07:12 <Ali> Really I don't like being scared but...I've had so many bad experiences in game and out of games that make MMOs just...something I can't stand.
07:13 <Schism> Hey, once bitten, twice shy. We get it.
07:13 <Ali> Like I basically got kicked out of a guild cause I dislocated my shoulder. Due to it being weakened, I couldn't raid due to the stiffness and it hurt like hell
07:13 <Ali> Even when my spot was going to be 'returned' once rehab was over.
07:13 <Ali> One reason why I have a unique WoW title unlocked at a really odd date
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07:14 <Schism> Well, that's just... beyond jerky. I know there are some statics who will do that, but for the love of Finagle.
07:14 <Ali> I used to be in the main raid group as well, along with progression raids
07:14 <Ali> Was in the group that first took down Zul'aman when it was a 10 man raid
07:15 <Ali> I think that was the anme
07:15 <Schism> Hm, nice!
07:15 <Ali> God I can't spell
07:15 <Ali> They eventually nerfed the place to a 5 man
07:15 <Ali> But yeah. There's reasons I'm scared of guilds and MMOs and online interactions
07:15 <Schism> Ali, I won't say there aren't hardcore raiding statics who'll do that in FFXIV, because there totally are. But they're few and far between, and first-in-world achievements are generally even frowned upon, like "Congrats, I guess?"
07:16 <Ali> I have no first in world achievements, it was a guild first
07:16 <Schism> Mmm. Even then!
07:16 <Schism> It's a much stronger achievement to be part of a group which manages to do minimum iLvL runs.
07:16 <Schism> And they tend to be pretty awesome and laid back.
07:17 * Ali shrugs and flops into. pony needs to stop talking about this before she breaks down but she also doesn't want to stop talking cause its all they have right now.
07:17 * Schism hugs the Ali. "Minimum iLvl... did you ever get into that in WoW? Was it ever a thing?"
07:17 <Ali> Dear, I was doing dungeons and stuff BEFORE iLvl was a thing
07:18 <Schism> Pff, so was I, though I always overgeared.
07:18 <Ali> They used to not lock you out
07:18 <Schism> Minimum iLvl is the antithesis of lockout. Basically, no matter what you have, it sets you to the bare minimum required to complete the dungeon, as the playtesters found.
07:18 <Ali> Heck people can't even do Timewalked dungeons cause you NEED CC not hack and slash
07:18 * PrincessRainbows boops Ali with her plushie and hugs
07:19 <Ali> Like I remember when Timewalk Burning Crusade came out
07:19 <Schism> So it doesn't matter if you have a full set of lovely i400 gear, you're getting synced down to 70.
07:19 <Ali> People had no idea what to do and thought it was so hard running it at Lvl 70 with leveled gear
07:19 * Schism eyerolls.
07:19 <Ali> Cause the art of crowd control was lost since Wrath
07:20 <Ali> So nobody knew how to blind or polymorth or roots
07:20 <Ali> And just run in and let 5 mobs wail on the tank and they dropped dead in three seconds
07:20 <Schism> Paying attention to mechanics (mechanics are for cars!!!) is a lost art for the earlier stuff, too.
07:20 <Schism> Like, okay, Shiva is a bit tricky, but nobody should be dying to her bow.
07:21 * Ali huggles the PrincessRainbows
07:21 <Schism> And if you fall off during Titan EX after the first couple of times, you really need your head adjusted.
07:21 <Ali> The other setback for me is the constant cost of playing said MMO
07:21 <Schism> (Okay, that latter is a bad point.)
07:21 <Schism> Yeah, the $15/month is not a cost that you want to pay unless you're actually playing it on a regular basis.
07:21 <Ali> 15-20 bucks a month hurts
07:22 <Ali> And that's why I like the idea of the wow token
07:22 <Ali> But not buying it, I mean earning it with in game gold
07:22 <Ali> But like I said, the cost is so high, I'd have no idea how to even do that
07:22 <Schism> That's perfectly fair. And it probably wouldn't be a bad idea for FFXIV to offer something similar, but I'm afraid that it would drive up the market to exorbitant points, and I'm pretty sure that Yoshi-P feels the same.
07:23 <Ali> Yeah it has its perks and drawbacks
07:23 <Schism> There are a lot of gilsinks on the market already, so it's hard to really justify.
07:23 <Ali> But for someone who can't always afford the per month costs, it would be a nice alternitive
07:24 <Ali> Plus I have nobody in WoW to play with so that's a turn off right there
07:24 <Ali> Playing an MMO alone, the greatest feeling of emptiness ever.
07:25 <Schism> It really is best to have folks to play with, aye. I'm part of a pretty decent free company, and there are lots of linkshells (chat channels) with which I'm involved.
07:25 <Schism> Typically, bridges only get burned if you turn out to be a spectacular jerk.
07:25 <Ali> Yeah but I'm such a tight lipped pony that is too scared to talk in games like that
07:25 <Schism> And I'm not -quite- that bad.
07:25 * PrincessRainbows grabs her pacifier and plushie then flops on Ali. Yay, pony ride
07:26 <Schism> I am kinda quiet there, too, but I still offer and get hugs. :S
07:27 <Ali> Also here's my luck
07:27 <Ali> I did the first level in Skull cavern with the shiny new sword
07:27 <Ali> Instantly get killed by the serpents
07:27 <Ali> Thankfully didn't lose the sword
07:27 <Schism> Yup, they suck...
07:27 <Ali> But still, Skull Cavern is a crock of crap
07:28 <Schism> It's one of those bootstrapping situations.
07:28 <Ali> And your defense is so pitiful, even WITH the best boots its only 4 and they do like 30 a hit
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07:28 <Ali> Its the only place to get irridium basically but I can't get LOW enough into it to even mine for the stuff.
07:28 <ConfusionRift> Hello everypony.
07:29 <Ali> Like why is that stupid dungeon so dang difficult
07:29 <Ali> I'd rather bash my head against heroic plantera than do Skull cavern
07:30 <Ali> Cause your max defense with Galaxy Sword is a pitiful 4
07:30 <Ali> Unless you've killed the rock crabs for the quest
07:30 <Ali> Even then that's not enough mitigation to just outright die from the serpents
07:31 * Schism nods. "When you see the serpents approaching, then, it sounds like you should use a Staircase."
07:31 <Ali> Don't have that much stone to just waste
07:31 <Ali> Its year 1
07:32 * Schism ohhs, right.
07:33 <Ali> I barely have enough stone to get ready for year two
07:33 <Ali> I can't just waste it
07:34 <Ali> But I'm on the forest farm
07:34 <Ali> The space is awkward
07:34 * Ali also licks Schism, they should multiplayer stardew again at some point and make it past day 3 :P
07:35 <Schism> I know, I should... just not feeling it for some reason right now.
07:36 <Ali> I understand
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07:36 <Schism> Ali, have the strangest bonsai ever. https://twitter.com/wrathofgnon/status/1250287741247426565
07:37 * Ali boops Schism as they showed her that already.
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07:37 <Schism> Oh right. Bleh.
07:37 <Schism> Sorry, it's 4 AM and I'm not sure why I'm awake.
07:37 <Ali> Its fine
07:43 * PrincessRainbows boops ConfusionRift with her plushie and makes grabby hooves
07:44 * ConfusionRift boops PrincessRainbows, and then grabbies for pats.
07:44 * PrincessRainbows claps her hooves and curls up
07:45 <Schism> I'm rather surprised at this fanfic. I don't think I've ever read a Harry/Bellatrix fic done well, but this hits all the buttons.
07:46 <Schism> (Time travel is involved.)
07:49 <Finwe> Morning, everypony!
07:49 <Finwe> Lt Cdr ConfusionRift, Capt Koopz; Mr Schism, Miss Ali.
07:49 <Finwe> o7
07:50 <ConfusionRift> RAdm. Finwe. (salutes)
07:56 * PrincessRainbows bounces around Finwe making happy little filly noises
08:03 * Finwe pets PrincessRainbows.
08:04 * Schism passes PrincessRainbows a bacon and tomato sammich.
08:05 <Koopz> RAdm. Finwe o7
08:07 * PrincessRainbows curls up under Ali and goes sleepy. Night
08:11 <Finwe> Good night, PrincessRainbows.
08:24 <Ali> Well that could've been bad
08:24 <Ali> I almost fell down the stairs like a complete idiot
08:30 <Finwe> Ali: May I interest you in this excellent Finnish game: https://jet.ro/dismount/
08:30 <Finwe> Stair Dismount. The more damage you take, the more points you get. o3o
08:31 * Ali puffycheeks at Finwe
08:31 <Schism> I've always preferred Rekkaturvat.
08:31 <Finwe> :3
08:32 <Finwe> Schism: That's the first sequel.
08:32 <Schism> Yus. o3o
08:32 <Finwe> The second was Kiuasturvat, or Sauna Dismount.
08:33 * Ali flops over Schism and Finwe
08:34 <Schism> Should finish Clustertruck sometime...
08:34 <Schism> I'm one of those madfolks who decides to play it without powerups.
08:50 * Ali licks the Schism nosie
09:01 * ConfusionRift goes through his game library and sighs. "I can continue Grim Dawn I suppose."
09:02 <Ali> I do that everytime I look at my game list ConfusionRift
09:02 <Ali> I mean heck, I spent how much time talking with Schism about MMOs and depressed myself.
09:04 <ConfusionRift> I have work in the evening. If I get too involved I lose track of time, and then I have problems sleeping. Even though it doesn't matter. At the end of the day I'm still gonna have problems sleeping, as I always do.
09:06 * ConfusionRift shakes his head.
09:06 <ConfusionRift> Nope. Not falling on that rabbit hole again.
09:07 <ConfusionRift> Anyways, it's just I finished a lot of the queue list, and now am looking for the few I got left, aside from REALLY long games.
09:08 <ConfusionRift> And the few arcade games.
09:19 <Cepheid> Morning.
09:21 <ConfusionRift> Hallo.
09:22 <Finwe> Mr Cepheid.
09:22 * Finwe doffs his hat.
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09:47 * Cepheid sets body up for maximum wellness. Then sets it up for maximum overdrive by consuming coffee and two vyvanse capsules.
09:49 * Cepheid checks the news.
09:49 * Cepheid sighs.
10:00 <Cepheid> https://gfycat.com/knobbyconcretebantamrooster
10:06 <Cepheid> https://i.redd.it/00bwu8irs9t41.jpg
10:06 <ConfusionRift> "portraits of terror". Yep, I agree. Don't know how to feel about them.
10:08 <ConfusionRift> And of course the great white shark is one of the chubbiest. :P
10:14 <Cepheid> Heh.
10:15 <Cepheid> I'm surprised there is no picture with the sharkcats ass facing us directly. Cats like to shove their asses into our face for some reason.
10:22 <Cepheid> Right. Time to grab laptop and get off my lazy butt.
10:37 * ConfusionRift just noticed the rucksack you receive early in the game has two spaces of inventory.
10:41 <Cepheid> Grim Dawn?
10:41 <ConfusionRift> Yessir.
10:42 <Cepheid> Yeah, you get extra bag slots as the game progresses.
10:42 <Cepheid> What's your class setup, by the by?
10:44 <ConfusionRift> Demolitionist. Basically sticking to long range weapons.
10:44 <Cepheid> You can select a second class.
10:44 <ConfusionRift> ...really?
10:45 <Cepheid> Yeah.
10:45 <Cepheid> At level 10, you can select a second class to spend points in.
10:46 <ConfusionRift> Oh, that's why it was flashing. oooooh... another tree of points. Hmmm.
10:46 <Cepheid> Yeah.
10:47 <ConfusionRift> I guess... I can distribute some for iron.
10:48 <Cepheid> After the base game is done, you can also occasionally find potions to reset points and masteries.
10:49 * Cepheid decides for today, to implement sloped tile support.
10:49 * Cepheid first, however, needs a new tileset.
10:54 <ConfusionRift> Almost level 30, and have been fooling with the same single class setup. So... another class is gonna be interesting.
10:55 <Cepheid> Some of them synergize well, yes.
10:58 <Cepheid> Hookay, time to enable debug mode to figure out what's going on here.
10:58 * Cepheid codes in a key to enable/disable it.
11:04 * Cepheid implements event-driven system for processing input.
11:06 <Cepheid> All this just to make it easier to enable/disable debugging and other stuff.
11:07 * Cepheid actually stops for a moment to think if this is necessary.
11:10 <Cepheid> An input event queue would be a better approach, but with how MonoGame handles input, it doesn't seem possible to do. Unless..
11:10 * Cepheid sets up bluetooth audio to living room speaker system.
11:12 <Cepheid> ... Huh.
11:12 <Cepheid> The sound system my parents use doesn't seem to support better protocols?
11:13 <Cepheid> ... According to this it DOES.
11:14 <Cepheid> Okay, why'd you fail to change profiles..?
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11:25 <Cepheid> I cannot find any specs on what codecs are supported.
11:26 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Morning Discussion #1905 [ http://tinyurl.com/yddx7zqg ]
11:31 <Cepheid> I find it increasingly difficult to believe that this thing doesn't support anything other than SBC.
11:36 <Cepheid> ...
11:37 <Cepheid> Apparently, that is, in fact, all it supports.
11:38 <Cepheid> Why would you make a surround sound system that only supports SBC?
11:39 <Lumindia_> welp we lost another one to COVID
11:39 <Lumindia_> https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/15/technology/john-horton-conway-dead-coronavirus.html
11:39 <Lumindia_> we lost John Conway
11:40 <Cepheid> Yeah, we know.
11:40 <Lumindia_> I just frickin' found out today, you heck
11:40 <Lumindia_> The articles are only from a day ago
11:44 <Cepheid> Sorry, sorry.
11:46 <Cepheid> Hum, some websites are getting late to the update. I heard about his death two or three days ago.
11:47 <Lumindia_> yeah, NYTimes just got to it a day ago
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11:47 * Cepheid plays Olivia Pierce's theme.
11:48 <Cepheid> Slightly annoyed I have to wait until Monday to continue DOOM Eternal. It's getting annoying going through DOOM Wiki because the damned site won't separate 2016 from Eternal in some articles.
11:48 <Cepheid> I know a few more details than I'd like as a result.
11:55 * Cepheid rages as XNA doesn't seem to have a way to hook into the input system to attach listeners to it.
11:55 * ConfusionRift goes for the inquisitor secondary class. "It's another range class. At least it should- wait a minute." Notices something in the class tree. "Wait a minute!" Activates Ranged Expertise. "WAIT A MINUTE!" He can use two pistols now. "Aaaaw yeeeaaaaah."
11:57 <Cepheid> HEh.
11:57 <ConfusionRift> With the fire rate increase and the explosive bursts from the demolitionist class, I'm just sweeping.
11:57 <Cepheid> Dual-weilding class for ranged, yeah.
11:57 <Cepheid> I'm the melee equivalent of what you are, presumably.
11:57 <Cepheid> By the way, what are the primary stats you look for in weapons?
11:57 <Cepheid> And gear?
11:57 <Cepheid> I'll keep an eye out for rares and legendaries for you.
11:58 * Cepheid decides to just implement a poor-mans input queue.
11:58 <Cepheid> ... Actually, wait, I don't *HAVE* to.
12:00 <ConfusionRift> I'm wearing half epic and half legendary. I try to balance things out. Since the range class asks more for cunning and physique, I try to prioritize those. But don't you worry. I have only died once so far, so it's been a breeze.
12:00 <ConfusionRift> And now, more so, despite me being weaker defense-wise.
12:04 <Cepheid> Oh? You got legendaries? What level are you then?
12:06 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Comic: Lily's Seeds / Sleepover / TWD 3:60 / ANL 4:65 / Shadows 61 / Marble, Mare Manquee 6 [ http://tinyurl.com/y99mer75 ]
12:12 <ConfusionRift> Gimme a sec.
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12:13 <ConfusionRift> Sorry, not legendaries. I mean rares.
12:13 <ConfusionRift> And barely reached level 30.
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12:15 <ConfusionRift> Don't think I have seen a legendary at all.
12:15 <ConfusionRift> Aside from special items.
12:26 <Cepheid> Oh, right.
12:26 <Cepheid> So you're level 30, you won't see legendaries then.
12:26 <Cepheid> Legendaries only start to drop once you hit level 50.
12:27 <Cepheid> You'll see normal, magic, rare and epics only until level 50.
12:27 <Cepheid> Also, just a heads up, as I'm not sure if the game covers it..
12:27 <Cepheid> See that little starry button on the far left of your status bar?
12:29 <ConfusionRift> Starry button?
12:29 <ConfusionRift> I see a button that kinda looks like a ring, on the far left.
12:29 <Cepheid> It's a colored button, if you look closely, it looks like it has little stars in it. It's on the upper-left corner of the quickbar/status bar.
12:30 <Cepheid> It's a loot filter configuration button.
12:30 <Cepheid> Not sure if you noticed, but the enemies in Grim Dawn are practically made of loot.
12:32 <ConfusionRift> Oh. It looks like a ring on my side. Also, the game doesn't cover this. I just stumbled on it while I was checking the options. Also, on controller configuration, its the right most option.
12:32 <ConfusionRift> Yes, I play with a controller.
12:35 <Cepheid> Nah, I understand.
12:35 <Cepheid> There's benefits to a controller for ARPGs I find.
12:35 <Cepheid> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v766-h3g00s
12:35 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Spider Dance (Remix) - Undertale - Official Audio
12:39 <Cepheid> I should purchase that and play it.
12:43 <ConfusionRift> Hehehe.
12:44 * Cepheid ticks the map version number up by 1. Added a new attribute to the tiles: Alpha.
12:44 <ConfusionRift> "So, what's your reason to kill the human?" | (ahems) "Money?" :3
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12:51 <Cepheid> Now to, ye know, figure out how to do blending in monogame.
12:52 <Cepheid> Because the XNA documentation doesn't seem to align with monogame.
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12:57 <Cepheid> Doesn't match up *AT ALL*
12:58 <Cepheid> ...
12:58 <Cepheid> Because the documentation for XNA keeps directing me to the Express version, instead of sticking to version 4.0.
13:03 <Cepheid> ...
13:04 <Cepheid> I'm going to have to write a custom shader effect, aren't I?
13:04 * PrincessRainbows whimpers and makes grabby hooves at ConfusionRift
13:04 * Cepheid sighs.
13:05 * ConfusionRift grabbies PrincessRainbows and pets for a while.
13:07 * PrincessRainbows makes scared little filly noises
13:09 <ConfusionRift> Hmm?
13:10 <Cepheid> I don't mind writing shaders, but it just seems like this should be a basic effect that is provided from the start.
13:10 <Cepheid> Fortunately, XNA supports compiling effects from files, without going through the content management system it uses.
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13:10 <Cepheid> I'm trying to avoid the proprietary formats.
13:11 <Cepheid> Also, I don't know HLSL.
13:11 * PrincessRainbows decides to just sleep it off
13:13 <Cepheid> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2l5OPfkbI4 ...
13:13 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.
13:13 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Zero (Ace Combat Zero: The Belkan War) - GaMetal Remix
13:14 <Cepheid> Seriously, he finally did a remix of Zero?
13:15 <ConfusionRift> OoooOOOOH!
13:17 <ConfusionRift> This is a heavy acoustic song, changing to metal is tricky.
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13:18 <ConfusionRift> Sorry, a metal remix would be difficult, at least to keep what made the song what it was.
13:18 <Cepheid> Heh.
13:18 <Cepheid> It also kinda needs the voiceovers to go with it.
13:19 <Cepheid> It just doesn't work without the commentary from Pixy,
13:19 <ConfusionRift> This is still really good.
13:20 <ConfusionRift> I was iffy about ti at first, it it progressively got better. Especially when he started switching between electric to acoustic and back.
13:21 <ConfusionRift> Yeah, having Pixie in the background would have been great. Though, it's still one of those songs that by its own you know exactly what's up. :P
13:21 <Cepheid> I gather that the Ace Combat series overall goes a little futuristic, though. Given that Pixy's fighter uses a FREAKING LAZER BEAM.
13:22 * Cepheid hasn't really played the Ace Combat series. But is familiar with That One Fight because of the music.
13:23 <ConfusionRift> Cepheid: Some of the dogfights in the series just go absolutely ridiculous.
13:23 <Cepheid> Heh.
13:23 <Cepheid> Some of his commentary is... interesting during our current times.
13:23 <Cepheid> "What has borders done for us?"
13:25 <ConfusionRift> There's more behind the whole fight. For one, he basically used to be your wingman and betrays you in mid-mission by leaving you having to deal with a beam cannon firing towards you from the sky.
13:26 <Cepheid> Is there a reason for the betrayal?
13:27 <Cepheid> Judging from the commentary, it sounds like fighting eventually got to him.
13:27 <ConfusionRift> I don't remember the whole thing. But yes, it did.
13:27 <Cepheid> So, his ideals somehow go from fighting for an ideal, to wanting to restart everything from square one.
13:27 <Cepheid> Because otherwise, the wars will continue.
13:28 <Cepheid> Problem is, this ideology is flawed. There is no guarantee that even after "resetting the world" that war will never happen again.
13:28 <ConfusionRift> Which is why he gave up on that after you shot him down.
13:29 <ConfusionRift> Yes, he lived after that.
13:29 <Cepheid> Heh.
13:30 * Cepheid sighs. His mind's going weird places. Not bad, just weird.
13:31 <ConfusionRift> Other things to point out. Just before your bout with him, you're tasked to fly into an underground base in order to stop the launch of a nuclear weapon. So you just barely stopped what could've been an absolute mess.
13:31 <Cepheid> Except of course, it seems the enemy side had a fallback
13:33 <ConfusionRift> Yeah, he was basically the only thing left, especially when the majority of the units of the organization trying to launch the nuke decide that it was best to flip them off and help you out.
13:39 <Cepheid> I'll probably never really play the series. Games that focus heavily on war tend to make me think a bit too much.
13:41 <ConfusionRift> Oh wait... wrong game. In AC5, you're left with a small squad dealing with most of the heavy work in the war. At one point, as you go for their base, others from the enemy squad start joining in.
13:46 <Cepheid> Hum, so that's how the sprite batch shader is defined. Good to know, since I need to KNOW how it's written to write a replacement.
13:47 <Cepheid> Danged thing doesn't do alpha blending the way I want.
13:51 <ConfusionRift> Oh, right, similar situation and mission. Just as you finish the briefing, the airship carrier you're in is under attack. The only thing you can do is launch as fast as you can and move to the enemy base. Once there, their anthem is heard on the radio, and enemy units start joining in with you.
13:54 <ConfusionRift> The more crazy aspects of the game comes with some of the maneuvers you're expected to pull off, and the game's super-weapons.
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14:05 * ConfusionRift yawns, sleepies.
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14:12 <Cepheid> ... Ah, got it working.
14:27 * Cepheid face palms.
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14:28 <Moose> Quick, whats the derpy symbol thing
14:28 <Moose> 6_9 or something
14:29 <Moose> havent been active here since early 2016
14:31 <Cepheid> Heh.
14:31 <Cepheid> Welcome back then.
14:32 *** Moose is now known as RAIDEN_48HR
14:32 <RAIDEN_48HR> Hi Cepheid, I recognize that name
14:33 * RAIDEN_48HR Tech's | Divide
14:34 * RAIDEN_48HR Hats Finwe
14:34 <RAIDEN_48HR> Hey guys wanna see something neat
14:34 <RAIDEN_48HR> !ultrakill
14:34 * DerpyBot grabs RAIDEN_48HR and flies off in the general direction of Sugarcube Corner
14:35 * DerpyBot returns with a cupcake with RAIDEN_48HR's name etched into the frosting
14:35 *** RAIDEN_48HR was kicked by DerpyBot (Made into cupcakes.)
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14:38 <RAIDEN_48HR> This place is alot more quiet now
14:49 <Cyan_Spark> !muffin
14:49 <DerpyBot> Muffins!! You have any? :3
14:49 <Cyan_Spark> Maybe
14:49 * DerpyBot glomps Cyan_Spark...Maybe
14:50 <RAIDEN_48HR> !hug
14:50 <DerpyBot> Hugtiem? :3
14:50 * DerpyBot wraps her front hooves around RAIDEN_48HR in a tight embrace
14:50 <RAIDEN_48HR> ^~^
15:02 * Schism awakens.
15:11 <RAIDEN_48HR> Ah a wild Schism has appeared
15:11 <Schism> However briefly...
15:14 <RAIDEN_48HR> !seen Braixen
15:14 <DerpyBot> RAIDEN_48HR: The last time I saw Braixen was 2018-06-22 15:49:05 UTC
15:14 <RAIDEN_48HR> sad hours
15:14 <RAIDEN_48HR> !seen wobniaR
15:14 <DerpyBot> RAIDEN_48HR: The last time I saw wobniaR was 2017-07-25 04:16:37 UTC
15:15 <RAIDEN_48HR> real sad hours
15:15 <RAIDEN_48HR> !seen CleverDerpy
15:15 <DerpyBot> RAIDEN_48HR: The last time I saw CleverDerpy was 2018-08-16 20:51:03 UTC
15:15 <RAIDEN_48HR> this is depressing
15:16 <RAIDEN_48HR> !seen Thelema5
15:16 <DerpyBot> RAIDEN_48HR: The last time I saw Thelema5 was 2019-11-10 07:02:12 UTC
15:16 * Schism believes that wobniaR might have something to do with DashedRainbows. Additionally, offers a burrito to RAIDEN_48HR.
15:17 <Schism> Hopefully Thelema5 is doing all right. They were okay back when last we saw them, making up with their 'better half'.
15:17 * RAIDEN_48HR takes the burrito and remembers high school fondly
15:18 <Schism> Frozen burritos are still nomworthy. o3o
15:18 <RAIDEN_48HR> When micorwaved of course
15:18 <Schism> Oven baked.
15:18 <RAIDEN_48HR> haha, looks like my standards are lower
15:18 <Schism> With lots of melted cheese atop.
15:18 <Schism> Well, I don't have a microwave here.
15:18 <RAIDEN_48HR> ah i see
15:20 <RAIDEN_48HR> is Divide still in tech support>
15:20 <RAIDEN_48HR> hehe complaining about it in here
15:20 <Schism> Sooooorta. (Also, I am Divide.)
15:21 <RAIDEN_48HR> what
15:21 <Schism> Schism on Nocturne, Divide on Adagio. o3o;
15:21 <RAIDEN_48HR> my world is shattered
15:21 * Divide|Adagio waves a hoof.
15:22 <RAIDEN_48HR> never knew, always though it was just two people who were active alot lmao
15:22 <Schism> Anyway, working for a shoe company. Technical support for them, albeit in a different fashion.
15:22 <RAIDEN_48HR> not sure if anyone here remembers me
15:22 <RAIDEN_48HR> its been way to long
15:22 <Schism> Yes, I do remember you.
15:23 <RAIDEN_48HR> Yay, that makes me happier than you'd think
15:24 <Schism> Cepheid, when did Doug Ford develop a brain?
15:24 <RAIDEN_48HR> BTW I'm still as annoying and cringey as i was 4 years ago
15:24 <Schism> I think the idea that he's actually being responsible and sensible is perhaps the most surreal thing about this whole situation.
15:24 <Schism> S'aright, Raiden, we're all a bunch of jerks.
15:31 <Cepheid> Okay, XNA, what the hay are you doing?
15:39 * Cepheid sighs.
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15:41 * Cepheid roots through Monogame's code to figure out what it's doing.
15:48 <Cepheid> For some reason, it just doesn't seem to like the orthographic projection I'm trying to set..
15:48 <Cepheid> For sprite rendering, anyways.
15:52 <Cepheid> I can only assume this has to do with backface culling.
15:53 * Schism eyebrows. "More cell phone towers were vandalized last weekend, over 50 of them, in the UK."
15:54 <Cepheid> Nope.
15:54 <Cepheid> Just MonoGame's unable to [REDACTED] do one simple thing.
15:54 <Schism> Go figure. Bleh.
15:54 <Cepheid> It's SpriteBatch renderer is, for reasons unknown, unable to handle an orthographic projection where bottom < top.
15:55 <Schism> That sounds... deeply ridiculous.
15:57 <Cepheid> I want the origin of the mathematical system to be in the lower-left corner. However, the SpriteBatch class sets the origin to the upper-right corner, and no matter what I do, I can't get it to work any other way.
15:57 <Cepheid> I have absolutely *NO* idea why either.
15:59 <Schism> In happier news, a store manager in Australia told a customer trying to return $10,000 worth of toilet paper to go sit on a rusty nail and spin.
16:00 <Schism> "eBay shut me down, so I can't profiteer off that," ostensibly said the festering boil on the rump of humanity.
16:06 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Makenshi: Meaningful Tribute Music: Koron Korak & Mane In Green - Choices (Requiem for Cerebre Arkor) [Orchestral] [ http://tinyurl.com/y7cz336c ]
16:08 <Cepheid> I don't know why this isn't working. It's explicitly specific to SpriteBatch.
16:09 <Cepheid> If I attempt to draw directly using the GraphicsDevice class, it works just fine.
16:09 <Schism> Very weird.
16:09 <Cepheid> But the moment I poke the SpriteBatch to do the same, it refuses to work.
16:11 <Cepheid> There is no apparent reason for why this is happening. The closest thing I can find is that the End() method on the SpriteBatch calls Setup(), which applies an effect before rendering, if the rendering mode isn't immediate. But if an effect is passed to Begin(), then that effect should overwrite the one End() sets up before rendering.
16:12 <Cepheid> And that special SpriteEffect instance it applies does some *WEIRD* stuff.
16:14 <Cepheid> ...
16:15 <Cepheid> *In the distance, tons of cursing, swearing, rampaging and destruction can be heard.*
16:15 <Cepheid> It bloody overrides the graphics device rasterizer state.
16:17 <Cepheid> It sets the rasterizer state to cull counter-clockwise polygons. By default, when using the SpriteBatch's default orthographic projection approach, all sprites added to the SpriteBatch to be drawn are, in fact, constructed in counter-clockwise order.
16:17 <Cepheid> Or, rather..
16:18 <Cepheid> It assumes that all polygons need to be in counter-clockwise order.
16:18 <Cepheid> So when a sprite is added, it's polygon is constructed in counter-clockwise order.
16:18 <Cepheid> And the default orthographic projection, once the vertices are passed through it, will come out counter-clockwise. So it won't cull them.
16:18 <Cepheid> However!
16:19 <Cepheid> If I flip that orthographic projection, the SpriteBatch class still constructs the polygons in counter-clockwise order. After passing the polygons through the proijection?
16:19 <Cepheid> They come out clockwise.
16:19 <Cepheid> They get culled because the rasterizer state is set to cull them because they appear to be facing *AWAY* from the camera.
16:21 <Cepheid> Solution? Disable culling altogether, because I really don't need it anyways. But geezus cripes.
16:23 <Cepheid> Well, the solution's a bit more complicated than that, but...
16:24 * Cepheid needs a break now.
16:25 <Schism> Perhaps a good time to do the Hildibrand quests, to settle your mind?
16:26 <Schism> (Heh, not that Hildibrand is all that laid-back.)
16:37 <Cepheid> I will in a bit.
16:38 <Cepheid> First though, a few chores I want to get done so that my parents don't get uppity about me doing nothing around the house. Also laundry. Also, I need to drug myself anyways, because there's no other way to counter a full 60mg of Vyvanse, which will keep me working whether I want to or not.
16:40 <RAIDEN_48HR> disable culling? im not a game developer but wouldnt that be very bad unless the game is a small 2d platformer?
16:41 <Finwe> There.
16:41 * Finwe completes the final stage of Dragon Age II.
16:42 * RAIDEN_48HR hats Finwe and celebrates by going out to smoke (BRB)
16:42 <Finwe> Fare thee well.
16:43 <RazorSharpFang> Ah, Cephs using MonoGame
16:44 <Cepheid> RAIDEN_48HR, 2D platformer.
16:44 <Cepheid> So disabling culling is fine.
16:45 <Cepheid> RazorSharpFang: It was either that or a complete engine from scratch, and I've done that too many times that I don't want to do that anymore.
16:46 <RazorSharpFang> Hmm
16:47 <RazorSharpFang> Anyway I'm off to sleep good night.
16:47 <Finwe> Noight, RazorSharpFang.
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16:55 * Cepheid bursts into flames.
17:00 * Finwe casts Winter's Grasp at Cepheid, extinguishing him.
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17:51 <RAIDEN_48HR> ahh
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18:54 <Finwe> Miss Ali.
18:54 * Finwe doffs his hat.
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20:31 * RAIDEN_48HR doffs Finwe's hat for him
20:46 <Finwe> o3o
20:46 * Finwe watches the Pink Panther Show S3E1.
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21:44 <Finwe> !lullaby
21:44 * DerpyBot carries Finwe off to bed
21:44 * DerpyBot tucks Finwe in and hums a lullaby
21:44 <Finwe> Good night, everypony!
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22:26 * Ali le boops da Schism nosie
22:27 <Schism> These are the saddest fishtanks I've ever seen.
22:27 <Schism> I was hoping the sharks would at least swim around, but... no, they're just... floathing.
22:27 <Schism> floating*
22:27 <Ali> What game Schism?
22:28 <Schism> FF14. It's... one tick.
22:29 <Ali> Sigh, makes me wish I could play with but...its an MMO
22:29 <Schism> Look. Just look at the saddest fishtanks ever. https://i.imgur.com/sMPEzs9.png
22:37 <Ali> They look so lifeless
22:41 <Ali> Schism, the problem I see is there's now way to free trail on steam
22:42 <Schism> Aye, you'll need to download the client in and of itself.
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22:43 <Ali> That seems to be a bit annoying?
22:43 <Ali> I mean, I know nothing of the game and if steam is even needed.
22:43 * Ali flops over.
22:43 <Schism> Steam is not. And to be honest, you shouldn't be using Steam for it anyway.
22:45 <Schism> Ali: See, this feels a LOT better. https://i.imgur.com/RBcJ0Zv.png
22:46 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Drawfriend Stuff (Pony Art Gallery) #3313 [ http://tinyurl.com/y8qp9l6u ]
22:50 <Schism> You CAN use Steam to play FFXIV, but... you should be using the MogStation instead.
22:52 <Ali> Meh, I hate coming up with a user name
22:52 <Ali> Cause 99% of the time the one I'd want to use is always taken
22:52 <Schism> True. I like to have a dictionary at hand.
22:53 <Ali> See the issue is it can't be changed
22:53 <Ali> And I don't want to be locked into it forever when 5 years or so down the road I don't like it
22:53 * Ali flops over.
22:53 <Schism> AliPonyhugs is unlikely to be taken?
22:53 <Ali> Sorry I'm ranty again
22:53 * Schism snugs the Ali.
22:53 <Ali> See the issue with putting pony in it
22:54 <Ali> Is that who knows where I might be in five years
22:54 <Ali> Might not even like Gen 5
22:54 <Ali> Then you'd be stuck with it
22:54 <Schism> True. :<
22:54 * Ali flops over, at least WoW only locks your email in as the account
22:54 <Schism> See, that's a security measure with FFXIV tho. :<
22:55 <Schism> Better to keep your ID separate from your e-mail.
22:55 <Ali> And that's my problem with being uncreative
22:55 <Ali> I can't come up with a cool username or anything
22:55 <Schism> Why not "JustAli"?
22:56 <Ali> Cause it sounds stupid..
22:56 * Schism boops the Ali. "I use 'Schismatism' frequently. It's very, very stupid."
22:56 <Ali> I don't know...I'm..picky
22:57 <Schism> AliKey?
22:58 <Ali> No thanks
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23:00 <Schism> Well, if you're just thinking of a login name, how about Chrysanthe?
23:00 <Ali> What now
23:00 <Schism> Just a throwaway name.
23:01 <Ali> I'm thinking, but things either sound too native american or dumb
23:02 <Schism> Or even Jana29756. It's just a login name, nothing you need to focus on. It's not your character name, after all.
23:02 <Ali> Hmmm
23:03 <Ali> Ok that worked
23:03 <Schism> Heck, for security reasons, it should have no bearing on your character name at all.
23:03 <Ali> Got the name I wanted but had to throw numbers before it
23:08 <Schism> We are on the Crystal data server, in Coeurl.
23:09 <Ali> That is a long download time
23:09 * Ali flops over Schism as she waits
23:09 <Schism> It's a lot of data. #_#
23:10 <Ali> 185 minutes...
23:11 <Schism> Seriously a lot of data. .0. And it's a pain when patching time comes...
23:11 <Ali> This makes no sense
23:11 <Ali> 7mb of data per second
23:12 <Schism> There's unpacking, too.
23:12 <Ali> means 420mb a min and 2.5GB
23:12 <Ali> an hour
23:12 <Ali> Eerrr
23:12 <Ali> 25 gigs an hour
23:12 <Schism> It's kind of... well, it's an estimate.
23:13 <Ali> I know but when simple maths break the cycle
23:13 <Schism> NOT entirely accurate.
23:13 <Ali> Also people in the US are getting antsy
23:13 <Ali> They're starting to protest the lockdowns
23:13 <Cepheid> 185 minutes. That's actually not that bad.
23:14 <Ali> It dropped to 103 now estimate
23:14 <Ali> So do you get oversized swords
23:14 <Ali> Cause its not a FF game if your weapon isn't 5 times bigger than you are
23:14 <Cepheid> Depends on the class.
23:14 <Schism> Yes, yes we do.
23:15 <Schism> Gunbladers get swords about half their size, and DRK get the Buster Sword. (Or similar.)
23:15 <Ali> Now lets try to get into another random battle
23:15 <Ali> *step* TRY AGAIN
23:16 <Cepheid> Mine tend to be about my height, but given that I use staves, that's to be expected.
23:16 <Cepheid> So it's not unusual.
23:16 <Schism> Ali, I trust you've seen the picture from Ohio, where people were trying to remake a George Romero film.
23:16 <Ali> Uh oh, its a Tonberry cloud, better use that flee command again
23:16 <Ali> Not really
23:16 <Ali> I can't stand all the covid coverage
23:16 <Ali> Its all a lot of political garbage talk
23:17 <Schism> Well, one moment...
23:17 <Schism> https://www.washingtonpost.com/resizer/LjNSR3jYGJtSGQDv7KtaBITBEgs=/1440x0/smart/arc-anglerfish-washpost-prod-washpost.s3.amazonaws.com/public/N4W7PVD77UI6VECANCMB6SEO5U.jpg
23:17 <Ali> Oh that image, yes it was the header to the story
23:18 <Schism> Yeah, it's pretty common these days.
23:19 <Ali> And mention server after the download again. Cause it would scroll out of my rollback by then
23:20 <Ali> Annoying the same three frames play back as the game installs
23:20 <Ali> And what does the free trail lock other than level?
23:21 <Ali> I'm sure you're stuck to only one class or two
23:22 <Ali> And seems like 14 gets ddos'd a lot
23:24 <Cepheid> And yet, you generally don't notice it.
23:33 <Schism> Hm. Got a stuffed giraffe.
23:33 <Schism> Okay, retainer, I guess I'll take it.
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