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00:02 <Ali> Dealerships have been ripping people off for years PinkieShy
00:02 <PinkieShy> But honestly.. I'm going to keep raising a fuss to try to get them to pay the cost of the engine air filter at the very least.
00:03 <PinkieShy> Those things i heard needs to be changed like every 30,000 miles supposedly..
00:03 <PinkieShy> So being before we got the car it was already near 30,000.. It was their job, not mine. They didn't do their job clearly.
00:05 <Ali> Sadly good luck with that
00:05 * PrincessRainbows hugs Ali and hides underneath her
00:06 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Drawfriend - Equestria Girls / Anthro MLP Art Gallery #189 [ http://tinyurl.com/y95v9sxb ]
00:15 * PrincessRainbows pops out to boop PinkieShy's horn
00:16 * Ali brushies PrincessRainbows and luffs on her.
00:20 * PrincessRainbows goes splat and whimpers under Ali's new boat :P
00:20 * Ali ish not fats :T
00:21 <PinkieShy> Ali I'll get luck with it honestly.. They are a BBB business.
00:21 <PinkieShy> Hopefully that can work in my favor as well.
00:22 <PrincessRainbows> Luff is a sailing term
00:24 * Ali boops PrincessRainbows as she uses luff for love. boops the filly nosie
00:25 * PrincessRainbows is a silly filly and bleps
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02:06 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Nightly Discussion #2138 [ http://tinyurl.com/y7klptmy ]
02:22 <Schism> Well. You could do worse than hitting level 65 as a stopping point...
02:30 <Schism> 8:30A, gotta get out by 7:15 at the very latest, not working properly until tomorrow so 6:00 to wake up, setup is plausible, okay, got a few more minutes.
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04:23 * PrincessRainbows hugs any nearby pony
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05:21 * PinkieShy snugs PrincessRainbows
05:25 * PrincessRainbows licks PinkieShy till he's dripping
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05:54 <Finwe> Morning, everypony!
05:54 <Finwe> Mlles Ali, Filly_Nightmares and PrincessRainbows; Messrs Schism, PinkieShy and Starlight_Glimmer.
05:54 * Finwe doffs his hat.
05:55 * Ali doffs over Finwe
05:55 <Finwe> "Today is Boomtime, the 39th day of Discord in the YOLD 3186"
05:57 <PinkieShy> Dang that was annoying more than anything in the world..
05:57 <Finwe> Incidentally, the epidemiological measures were first taken around the beginning of Discord.
05:58 * Finwe shakes his hoof at Discord.
05:58 <PinkieShy> I just heard a cricket noise on TV and that thing wasn't loud for anybody else to hear but to me it felt like i had my headphones full blast listening to a buzzing sound in my ear..
06:00 * Finwe hats on Ali.
06:00 * PrincessRainbows boops Ali and flops on her because tired filly
06:01 <PinkieShy> Like seriously stuff like that is annoying :(
06:01 <PinkieShy> Even can't stand the way some things feel sometimes lol
06:01 <Finwe> Fired tilly. o3o
06:01 <PinkieShy> I remember when i was in school teacher tried to get me to help put up a red christmas bow in the classroom and i couldn't do it as the feel of it was just to creepy for me :(
06:02 <PinkieShy> Teacher did tell me back then in 2010 I remember that it might be part of my disability though..
06:02 * PinkieShy falls from the sky and lands in front of Finwe. PinkieShy's eye's have went all Derpy
06:02 <Finwe> A Christmas bow? Is that one of those big red bow ties?
06:03 <PinkieShy> Yes
06:05 <Finwe> We don't do those, which is why I first imagined a red bow for shooting Christmas arrows. o3o
06:05 * PrincessRainbows boops Finwe because pony is silly
06:05 <PinkieShy> pff
06:06 <PinkieShy> But seriously though the way some of thow bow ties feel.. Its just to much for me
06:07 <Finwe> The canonical decoration to hang on your door is Christmas wreath, made of spruce.
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06:08 * PrincessRainbows just flops as mare is very tired, maybe should sleep
06:08 <Finwe> Then there are these elf and reindeer figures you attach to your window.
06:12 <Finwe> Then a chandelier in the form of an upward pointing candle, with seven candles, and, of course, the Christmas tree.
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06:46 * PrincessRainbows decides to sleep. She grabs her pacifier and borrows Finwe as a plushie the goes sleepy. Night
06:47 * Finwe is a sleepy plushie.
06:47 * Finwe radiates sweet dreams.
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06:59 <LunaMoon> Hiya
06:59 * Ali wavies
07:00 <LunaMoon> How is everyone?
07:03 <Ali> Ok, just messing around in a new game
07:08 <Finwe> Greetings, LunaMoon.
07:09 <LunaMoon> I'm just trying to not get too depressed. Hard to find people into mlp
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07:12 <Ali> Well it did just end, which sucks
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07:27 <ConfusionRift> Hello everypony.
07:28 * Ali flops over the ConfusionRift
07:29 * ConfusionRift patpats Ali.
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07:35 <Finwe> Lt Cdr ConfusionRift, Capt Koopz.
07:35 <Finwe> o7
07:36 <Koopz> RAdm. Finwe o7
07:37 <ConfusionRift> RAdm. Finwe. (salutes)
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07:54 * PrincessRainbows makes sleepless filly noises and then grabby hooves at ConfusionRift
07:57 * Ali brushies PrincessRainbows and yawns at them and ConfusionRift
07:58 * ConfusionRift grabbies PrincessRainbows, then pets.
07:58 * PrincessRainbows yawns too and makes more tired little horse noises
08:01 * PrincessRainbows boops ConfusionRift with a drawing of a stick pony she made
08:05 * PrincessRainbows curls up for sleepies, hopefully
08:08 * ConfusionRift patpats PrincessRainbows. It's a nice drawing. :P
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10:13 * Schism yawnles, and boops the Filly_Nightmares wif pancake.
10:14 <Finwe> Mr Schism.
10:14 * Finwe doffs his hat.
10:15 <Schism> rAdm. Finwe.
10:15 * Schism doffs his pistachios.
10:24 * Ali doffs over Schism as she doesn't understand basic coding for this game. Well to a point.
10:25 * Schism wonders what game. Also, prepares for work... :<
10:25 * Ali boops Schism with steam
10:25 <Lumindia> The light shall usher in peace
10:25 <Schism> Ah, never played Autonauts.
10:31 <Ali> Like the bots have limited data so you can't do too complex commands early
10:32 <Ali> So picking up multiple items at a time and dropping them off seems to be a no no
10:33 <ConfusionRift> No loop command?
10:34 <Ali> There is, but there's a limit to the commands
10:38 <ConfusionRift> Hmmmm.
10:38 <ConfusionRift> Never really played it, but seems to follow this algorithm style programming.
10:50 <Schism> The idea seems to be, then, that you set up one bot with limited commands, then another bot with a second set, and so on and so forth.
10:51 * Ali nods, but energy gone and passes out.
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10:51 <ConfusionRift> ...
10:51 <Schism> Alas. Oh well...
10:51 * Schism takes insulin, shaves, gets stuff together.
10:55 * Schism hopes CrossCode gets that epilogue soon.
10:55 <Cepheid> https://i.redd.it/6dpxog6j78u41.png
10:57 <Cepheid> Ali playing a programming game? That is interesting.
11:00 * Filly_Nightmares meow
11:00 * Filly_Nightmares nomfs Finwe and Schism and pancake!
11:06 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Morning Discussion #1910 [ http://tinyurl.com/yauf4zvh ]
11:08 <Cepheid> Good morning.
11:08 <Schism> Mornin'.
11:09 * Schism prepares to pick up the box from his workplace. Box, minotaur, leopard, mouse...
11:10 <Cepheid> Hmm?
11:11 * Cepheid looks at his battery charge on his laptop. Reads 0%.
11:12 <Schism> Cepheid: Well, I'll be working from home, after all.
11:12 <ConfusionRift> You silly. That's not right. (bumps, now read -38%) 0o0
11:13 <Schism> Cepheid: When one types on a leopard, the words show up on your minotaur.
11:14 <Cepheid> It's definitely charging. Applet seems to be bugged, though.
11:14 <Cepheid> ... Or, it's accurate, rather. I just did the math based on /sys status.
11:14 <Cepheid> The current battery charge is 0.008%
11:14 <Cepheid> ... Why is it charging so low?
11:14 <Cepheid> ...
11:14 <Cepheid> Are you asking to be murdered?
11:14 <Schism> Heh, cat?
11:14 <ConfusionRift> Viking funeral?
11:15 <Cepheid> Hum, the display updated to 2% finally. Seems to use a different calculation than what I am- Oh, wait, I forgot to multiply the above by 100.
11:16 <Cepheid> Yeah, that makes more sense now.
11:16 <Cepheid> I'd like to make a controversial statement.
11:17 <Schism> I fear I shan't be around for it. To the office I go~!
11:18 <Cepheid> Mick Gordon, the musician for DOOM 2016 and DOOM Eternal, I understand his concerns with how Bethesda/id handled the DOOM Eternal OST release, but it is probable that he doesn't have a stepping stone to stand on. The contract he signed likely allowed for Bethesda/id to do what it did.
11:20 <Cepheid> There are reasons I read contracts now, these days, because of stuff like that.
11:20 <Cepheid> Always interesting to see statements like "Anything you create, on or off-duty, is the sole property of <X>."
11:28 <ConfusionRift> And that's why I'm careful with binding contracts.
11:30 <Cepheid> Unfortunately, that's the cost of working for a company. There is usually a trade-off.
11:31 <ConfusionRift> There will always be. And no, not gonna talk about my current contract binding. (hints at work) That's another beast. It's more like... disclaimer and ToS stuff that tends to go around.
11:31 <Cepheid> And in fact, it's relatively fair. Imagine if you hired a musician, but told them they retained all rights to the music they make for the game. They could turn around and sell unofficial OSTs of the game music afterwards, making money on top of what they're making from employment under you.
11:32 <Cepheid> For me, the current contracts I have trouble with primarily involve the school.
11:32 <ConfusionRift> Oooh.
11:33 <Cepheid> Basically, the contract, in plain English, states that anything created for the school, be it assignments, algorithms, and so on, are the property of the school once submitted.
11:34 <ConfusionRift> It's the same case for UoP, when I used to study there. All assignments are basically their property, and they have the right to publish and (depending) distribute said material if they feel like it.
11:34 <Cepheid> It's especially a big deal if it's created or done under the guise of research.
11:37 * ConfusionRift sighs. Getting those flashbacks... "APA format, more than 400 words, double spaces, correct grammar, correct syntax, text checked, plagiarism checks (has to be below 10%, preferably 0), etc. frickin' etc."
11:37 * Cepheid wonders what happens if he runs multiple SpriteBatch instances in MonoGame.
11:37 <Cepheid> What were you taking?
11:38 * Finwe returns home from health centre.
11:38 <ConfusionRift> That was the case with every class. Was there during my BSIT, and MIS.
11:39 <ConfusionRift> Oh, and proper citations. How could I forget THAT?!
11:39 * Cepheid discards changes. They aren't a good idea.
11:40 <Cepheid> Ah yes, the citations.
11:40 <Cepheid> Citations were a minor issue, for me.
11:40 <Cepheid> The bigger issue thus far has been Runka, a professor of... note.
11:40 <Cepheid> During my Algorithms class with him, he utilized a personal server for a testing bed for our assignments.
11:41 <Cepheid> Basically, we'd pack up our code, submit it to the server, and it'd test the code to see if it meets requirements.
11:41 <Cepheid> We could do this an infinite number of times, thankfully. Though there were limits, in terms of how long between uploads and such.
11:41 <Cepheid> Anyways, the reason it was a problem?
11:41 * ConfusionRift yells. "Paraphrase paraphrase paraphrase!!!"
11:42 <Cepheid> It allowed for him to pull a mean trick. Basically, correctness was no issue in dealing with.
11:42 <Cepheid> It's easy to test for correctness even at home.
11:42 <Cepheid> No. He wanted speed, as well.
11:42 <Cepheid> The code you submitted had to run within a maximum time limit.
11:42 <Cepheid> If it exceeded it, it would lose marks.
11:43 <Cepheid> This sounds like it should have been a simple problem to overcome, except it wasn't.
11:43 <Cepheid> There were... issues, between my laptop and his server.
11:43 <Cepheid> Code I'd set up to run fast on my laptop would, inexplicably, run slow on his server.
11:44 <Cepheid> Then of course there were the times the server went down, and attempting to get anything out of him for it was impossible.
11:45 <Cepheid> He would always direct all complaints regarding server crashes to a different professor. And then that professor would tell us he's not responsible for it.
11:45 <Cepheid> And then the former prof occasionally has the audacity to talk to the students as though it's our responsibility to ensure the code works, yada yada yada. Like... you can't even ensure your own server is running, and you don't take responsibility for it.
11:47 * ConfusionRift contemplates. "Why did I just jumped into Facebook?" Logs off it and jumps to something... completely different.
11:48 * Cepheid checks his todo list for work. Has taken two vyvanse today, so he's a little wound up and full of energy.
11:48 <ConfusionRift> Also, that is full of garbage. This whole circle of "not my problem, your problem then" is ridiculous, especially regarding someone's education.
11:49 <Cepheid> It's a for-profit university, it doesn't shock me.
11:50 * ConfusionRift doesn't even remember how he did things. It's been so long. He remembers very little about programming.
11:51 <ConfusionRift> At the least, it was more about the program running on our system, and then submitting the software for marking. Alas, sometimes, things would reach the facilitator in pieces, and it made no sense.
11:52 <ConfusionRift> I remember there was an assignment in which EVERYONE almost got f'ed. Why? None of the applications submitted were working. Oddly enough, they were working on our end.
11:56 <ConfusionRift> What happened was that we were required to use outsourced files for the software to work. And we all committed the same mistake in how we directed the software to the files. Luckily, since it was gonna be a 100% fail rate, we were given a chance to "find the issue", correct, and resubmit.
11:58 <Cepheid> Heh.
12:03 <ConfusionRift> I also remember this guy... he thought he was being smart in doing the assignment DURING class. A friggin' database assignment! The gull of this guy. Anyways, we could all hear the fast typing and just watched the smugness as he thought he could just do that and get full marks. I was getting annoyed with this guy, on top of him chatting on the side as he did so. So... yeah, did something about that.
12:05 <ConfusionRift> For the sake of it, on top of just wanting for that to stop, I simply lifted my hand real quick and asked when was the assignment's due date. He stated that it was on the previous day at 6pm, and one will lose 10% of the grade of the assignment every 24 hours. The typing stopped, and now he's just sweating bricks.
12:06 <ConfusionRift> I think he withdrew right after.
12:06 <Lumindia> haha
12:07 <Cepheid> You'd of hated me then.
12:07 <Cepheid> I work on assignments during lectures, even if they aren't immediately due last minute, etc.
12:08 <Cepheid> There... usually isn't anything for me to learn during the lectures.
12:08 <Cepheid> But I am required to attend them in some courses.
12:10 <ConfusionRift> See, that's fine. You're on the corner, doing the current assignment. Probably would stop on occasions just make eye contact real quick, and then back to it. My problem was that we all saw him doing the previous assignment, and it wasn't the only time he did this. Also, he was getting loud and obnoxious with the chuckling as he chatted.
12:11 <ConfusionRift> In other words, acting like a butt during lecture.
12:12 <ConfusionRift> OH! The community college shared screen incident!
12:13 <Cepheid> Oh gods this sounds fun.
12:14 <ConfusionRift> At the community college, all the IT class rooms had systems that were all connected to their own subnetworks. On top of that, the main system (the instructor's) has screen sharing software, for obvious educational purposes.
12:15 <ConfusionRift> One of them showed the screen of every system on the subnetwork. The instructor initiates it, and all screens show up on the projector... including the one of a student watching porn.
12:16 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Fanfiction(Scouted) - Broken Record [ http://tinyurl.com/y9ejja9d ]
12:17 <ConfusionRift> We are all staring at that and start laughing, and this guy is not paying attention at all. The instructor takes over, opens Paint, and draws "That's a no no! Stop!", and he just shakes his head, and continues searching.
12:18 <ConfusionRift> Eventually, we all look at him and start giving him search suggestions. He chuckles for a second, looks up, and sees it on the projector. Yeah... that was something.
12:21 <Cepheid> Heh.
12:21 <ConfusionRift> I believe I kinda fell for it as well, but in this case I was running Alice, and my project wasn't running as it should. We all saw this plane just spinning at stupid speeds, stopping, and a bubble text showing "okay".
12:22 <Cepheid> I had a prof that'd call out the students in the back on a regular basis about them watching porn. He... has seen some ****, so he knew what was going on in the back of the large 300-student classes.
12:22 <Cepheid> Though the most hilarious incident for me would have been the class on network security.
12:23 <Cepheid> The professor demonstrated why network security is important. By showing that the college utilized software that sent passwords across the line in plaintext.
12:23 <ConfusionRift> Oh, i think I know where this is going.
12:24 <Cepheid> Yeah, a lot of students started looking as a result, and a few got some professor passwords
12:24 <Cepheid> Prof never got reprimanded for it, because he was in the right.
12:24 <Cepheid> He criticized the college's systems fairly.
12:26 <ConfusionRift> I mean... he was right. It's the same network hundreds of students, professors, and staff use for their materials. It's very important to keep all that information safe, especially sensitive information that SHOULDN'T even have that form of permanence on their network.
12:26 <Cepheid> Still took them several years to fix it though.
12:27 <ConfusionRift> Well, yeah. They would have to do some structural changes in terms on how information is managed, on top of the software involved.
12:27 <Cepheid> That, and ITS was inept.
12:28 <Cepheid> I have no idea why they do it, but all colleges and universities hire students to do their IT.
12:28 <Cepheid> I can only assume it has to do with cost.
12:28 <Cepheid> They can pay students less than actual trained, certified officials.
12:30 <Cepheid> Hum. Right. Tiled, you can set the tile rendering order, but it doesn't actually change anything in the file format itself.
12:30 <Cepheid> It seems to be purely informational.
12:30 <ConfusionRift> That kinda happens here as well. I know that the community college stopped, because one of their servicing students installed malicious software that extracted and copied information from any system connected to the network, which included the public network.
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12:36 <Cepheid> Yeah, at Carleton, the biggest ITS incident was ITS installing ransomware onto the network.
12:36 <Cepheid> Ransomware, that I might add, spread across the network.
12:37 * Cepheid plays the Roland SC-55 version of At Doom's Gate.
12:37 <Cepheid> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRrOBA4KyEY
12:37 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.
12:37 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Doom OST (SC55) - At Doom's Gate (Extended)
12:37 * PrincessRainbows hugs ConfusionRift tightly and raises her hooves. Uppy?
12:38 <ConfusionRift> Wasn't there a recent case of a professor who used all the college's networked systems for cryptocurrency mining?
12:38 <Cepheid> There was, yeah.
12:38 * ConfusionRift grabbies PrincessRainbows and patpats.
12:38 * Lumindia gives PrincessRainbows pats as well
12:38 <Cepheid> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q657rEkgfKs
12:38 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Doom - At Doom's Gate E1M1 remake by Andrew Hulshult (Brutal Doom v2.0 trailer theme)
12:39 <Cepheid> Also, it dawned on me that there's another ultraviolence game with some story that I can play.
12:39 <Cepheid> A series that I never truly finished.
12:39 <Lumindia> Blood?
12:39 <Cepheid> Well, that, and another series that, despite it's name, is not all that serious.
12:39 <Cepheid> Serious Sam series.
12:39 <Lumindia> kek
12:39 * PrincessRainbows yays. Is a good little horse
12:39 <Cepheid> It does have story.
12:40 <Cepheid> More than some action shooters of it's kind, at least.
12:40 * Cepheid also owns the entire series.
12:40 * Cepheid wonders if his mother would like Undertale.
12:41 <Cepheid> She likes watching me play games, a lot. Particularly fast-paced games or games with good stories.
12:41 <Cepheid> The only catch with Undertale is the lack of voiceovers, which would make it a bit hard on her. She usually does something that requires focus, while I'm playing. Needlepoint, for example.
12:41 * Cepheid finally flips the damned rendering engine.
12:42 * Cepheid adds an extension method to SpriteBatch as this is stupid.
12:45 <Cepheid> That, and she kinda expressed interest in the pacing of DOOM along with it's combat.
12:46 <ConfusionRift> It's a very fluid game.
12:50 <Cepheid> My mother is also slowly getting desensitized.
12:50 <Cepheid> She also seems to be getting better at... Understanding such games.
12:50 <Cepheid> I bet I could get her to play the original DOOM on higher than "I'm too young to die" now.
12:50 <Cepheid> Initially, by the start of DOOM 2016, she had trouble following the map.
12:51 * ConfusionRift chuckles.
12:51 <Cepheid> Now, she can look at the map for a shorter period than me and notice details.
12:51 <Cepheid> And direct me to them.
12:51 <ConfusionRift> Metroid Prime got me used to that map. :P
12:51 <Cepheid> She's still in awe over how I play though, moving around and doing things all the time.
12:52 <Cepheid> But she seems to be catching up quickly on details.
12:52 <Cepheid> My response to her when she's in awe is "I've been playing games since I was young. If you started playing games, you'd get the hang of it too."
12:52 <ConfusionRift> I'm a slow player, so I know I would give people migraines.
12:53 <Cepheid> Define "slow player"
12:53 <Cepheid> There's a few ways to express what that means.
12:54 <ConfusionRift> Even in games like Doom 2016, I tend to keep at my own pace. I also tend to explore, rather than jump forward. At times, I would "test the waters" doing odd things for a bit, and then continue doing what I was doing.
12:55 <Cepheid> Okay, that's less a problem for me.
12:55 <Cepheid> I get more agitated watching people standing in front of an obvious puzzle that a two-year-old could solve and not solving it in seconds.
12:57 <Cepheid> The kind of case that's like, you have a glowing red-white "shoot me" target, with a sign above it reading "Shoot this" with an arrow pointing to it in bright neon colours. With another sign next to the target that reads "Shooting this will open the locked door." and an arrow pointing to the target.
12:57 <Cepheid> And then the player goes up to the door and tries to "Use" it to open, then takes several minutes figuring out how to open it.
12:57 <Cepheid> I have SEEN this happen.
12:58 <ConfusionRift> I sometimes overthink those puzzle, and I kinda do that. But yeah, the obvious things I try to not just stare and overthink. :P
12:59 <ConfusionRift> My shmup mentality is still kinda there, so i would recognize a "SHOOT THE CORE" situation... mostly.
12:59 <Cepheid> And yet, I've seen people fail that on a regular basis. I wonder what causes the overthinking?
13:00 <Cepheid> I can only assume players overthink because they can't grasp the idea of "Yes, it is that simple."
13:00 * ConfusionRift twitches at La-Mulana.
13:00 <ConfusionRift> Heck if I know.
13:04 <Cepheid> La-Mulana's a special case.
13:04 <Cepheid> It's not obvious with any of it's puzzles a majority of the time.
13:05 <Cepheid> So overthinking is pretty much a given.
13:06 <ConfusionRift> Not to mention the "solution" could be a trap.
13:08 <Cepheid> Hum, that's sprite and tileset rendering all fixed up. Same for tile polygons. Now I just need to fix text rendering.
13:14 <Cepheid> Definitely not rendering text right. Spacing and size is all wrong.
13:14 <Cepheid> Plus, it's not doing alpha blending.
13:16 <Cepheid> Hilariously, I may not be able to fix most of the problems.
13:17 <Cepheid> Well, no. I can. I just need to use an alternative approach.
13:17 <Cepheid> It involves "Creating my own font renderer."
13:18 * Cepheid should probably also change the resource manager to be a factory manager instead.
13:19 <Cepheid> Instead of simply writing new additions to the manager. I just create a new factory method for a given resource manager, and then register it with the resource manager.
13:19 * Cepheid does that first.
13:31 * ConfusionRift flops asleep.
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13:33 <Cepheid> That was easy.
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16:24 <Schism|Nocturne> Hum. I return from my brief sojourn.
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16:28 <Finwe> o3o
16:28 <Finwe> Mr Schism|Nocturne.
16:28 * Schism|Nocturne offers Cepheid some Twix bites, and offers Finwe some Skor. o3o
16:29 <Finwe> Hershey's Skor bar?
16:30 <Finwe> Skor means shoes hereabouts.
16:31 <Schism|Nocturne> A shoe bar it is, then.
16:31 <Schism|Nocturne> But, yes, just a butter toffee bit covered in chocolate.
16:31 <Schism|Nocturne> Skör, I suppose.
16:32 <Schism|Nocturne> Alternately, a Daim bar. o3o
16:34 <Schism|Nocturne> 50 feet of network cable is a fair amount... I'm just glad that I can use this for the W@H.
16:35 <Finwe> It used to be called "Dajm". o3o
16:36 <Finwe> At least in the Nordic countries.
16:36 <Finwe> The original UK name was Dime, but it was changed to Daim at some point.
16:37 <Finwe> And now, with Mondelēz International owning the brand, it's Daim everywhere.
16:37 <Schism|Nocturne> Yup!
16:38 * Schism|Nocturne bleps. https://twitter.com/hourlyFox/status/1252915088211824641
16:38 *** Schism|Nocturne is now known as Schism
16:39 <Finwe> Oh, I have a 3-hour protein being computed.
16:40 <Finwe> Project 14580, clone 891, generation 48.
16:41 * Schism runs the cable through his closet, and juuuust has enough slack to get to his work box.
16:42 * Cepheid sighs.
16:42 <Cepheid> My pharmacy messed up.
16:42 <Schism> Que? Oh, no.
16:42 <Schism> How'd they manage that?
16:42 * Schism also provides Cepheid with some cranberry-cashew muffins.
16:42 <Cepheid> I'm supposed to have refills for my vyvanse according to my family doctor.
16:42 <Cepheid> But for some reason, his prescription no longer exists in my pharmacy file.
16:42 <Schism> what.
16:43 <Schism> Is your GP currently available to correct that?
16:44 <Finwe> I ordered a batch of pen needles recently, to be delivered within 7 days. No sign of them yet.
16:45 <Finwe> Luckily they had some at the health centre.
16:45 <Finwe> One does not simply inject insulin without those.
16:45 <Cepheid> He sent in a new prescription.
16:46 <Cepheid> When I go to bug the pharmacy for it, I'll investigate.
16:46 <Schism> Finwe: Well, there's always the vial-and-syringe method, but yes, pens and pen needles are kind of important.
16:46 <Finwe> I only have pens.
16:46 * Schism mms.
16:47 <Finwe> The vial and syringe method hasn't been used in ages.
16:48 <Schism> I am aware, though you can still -get- that stuff if you absolutely need.
16:49 <Schism> Also, I believe that in the United States, some diabetics do use the vial-and-syringe method because it's cheaper and, evidently, a vial of Lantus costs somewhere in the realm of $500.
16:51 * Schism hums.
16:53 <Finwe> 15ml in five pens costs around €50 here, but as insulin is 100% compensated, you don't pay that much.
16:55 * Schism nods.
16:56 <Schism> On my company's insurance, it's only $12 a box.
16:57 <Finwe> €0 for me. o3o
16:57 <Finwe> But I have state insurance.
17:06 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Makenshi: Pony Fan Lore Music: Mane In Green - Firedance [World Music/Soundtrack] [ http://tinyurl.com/yd9l8gn3 ]
17:08 * Cepheid toys with C#'s Roslyn internal compiler to create a scripting language.
17:10 * Finwe decides to nom on the aftermath of darkspawn blight in Ferelden.
17:12 <Cepheid> Huzzah, it works!
17:15 <Cepheid> Now, I just need to figure out how to remove particular elements.
17:16 <Cepheid> If I can get this to work, I plan to implement it as a scripting system for the AI, but for that to work, I need to disable certain security-related systems. File IO, for example.
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17:26 <Schism> Okay, now this is good. Not only am I back up to 43.75 hours a week, I also get a $.40/hr pay raise.
17:26 <Schism> And o/` NO COMMUTE~ o/` Which makes me very pleased.
17:27 <Schism> So while I'll be working from 9-6:30, I still wind up having shorter days than before.
17:27 <Schism> Er, 9-6:45, heh.
17:28 <Ali> That's longer than the 9-5 grind
17:28 <Schism> Yes, but 1. hour long lunch, and 2. it's normally an hour's commute each way.
17:29 <Ali> So I have one gripe so far about autonauts
17:29 <Schism> So in a very real sense, I'm working fewer hours and getting paid more for it.
17:29 <Schism> Also, que?
17:30 <Ali> It does not explain in game how to use the upgrades
17:30 <Ali> Like you can give a bot better vision/speed/battery
17:30 <Ali> But the game never tells you how to install said parts
17:30 <Schism> Ah, I see.
17:30 <Ali> The Wiki mentions how to do it
17:30 <Ali> but that shouldn't be the way to teach someone the game
17:30 <Schism> Perhaps post that on the game's forums?
17:30 <Schism> It seems the sort of feedback they'd love.
17:31 <Ali> I'm sure, but I'm not a big talker
17:31 <Ali> Especially in a forum style setting
17:31 <Schism> Mm, fair nuff.
17:32 * Schism also picked up a simple sort of coffee thingy. It's just a plastic drip filter thing, because Wal*Mart didn't have any French presses for some godsforsaken reason.
17:32 <Ali> I've seen things get blown off topic so easily and then insult sprees
17:32 <Schism> Yeah, it does turn into that at times.
17:33 <Ali> Learning how to program the bots is a bit of a pain for someone that doesn't fully understand it
17:33 <Ali> I've got the basics, just sometimes wish for a little more complex stuff
17:33 <Schism> The best way to learn is to do, sometimes. And algorithms can be complicated to set up!
17:33 <Finwe> Miss Ali.
17:33 * Finwe doffs his hat.
17:33 <Ali> Like I want them to pick up 4 things and deliver it to a spot
17:33 <Ali> but there's not enough code space to do it.
17:33 <Schism> So create a bucket brigade!
17:34 <Ali> A what now
17:34 <Finwe> o3o
17:34 * Ali pat pat pats Finwe
17:34 <Schism> Old term, used when firefighters would get a bucket of water and pass it down the line.
17:34 <Schism> How many lines do you have?
17:35 <Ali> Each action is 1kb of data
17:35 <Ali> Repeat action commands are also 1kb
17:35 <Schism> Move actions?
17:35 <Ali> The bot is limited to 15kb at the start if I remember
17:35 <Ali> Everything is 1kb
17:35 <Schism> So moving one square is 1kb?
17:35 <Ali> Oh no
17:35 <Schism> Ah, it's more a 'forward' or 'turn' action.
17:36 <Ali> the entire move command is 1kb, doesn't look at distance
17:36 <Schism> Ah, I see, Bot Head mk. 0 is 12 actions total.
17:36 <Ali> Oh so its 12
17:36 <Ali> like if you want it to pick up planks
17:37 * Finwe upgrades to Linux 5.6.
17:37 <Ali> You tell it to move to X location, usually a chopping block
17:37 <Schism> Is there a stack limitation of 1 item per tile?
17:37 <Ali> No
17:37 <Ali> I've seen 4 most of the time
17:37 <Ali> but other times I've seen it go up to 8
17:38 <Schism> So you can't just do move to, grab, grab, grab, grab, move to, drop all?
17:38 <Finwe> Writing Aligorithms, are we?
17:38 * Finwe hides behind Schism.
17:38 <Ali> Finwe, its for autonauts
17:39 <Ali> I don't know if the early bot can pick up four items
17:39 <Ali> And there isn't a drop all command as far as I know
17:39 <Schism> There is!
17:39 <Schism> Tho you're right, it looks like the basic body only has 3 hand slots.
17:39 <Ali> The minor problem with giving commands in the game Schism, is that you have to perform the action
17:40 <Ali> And the repeat command can't be set to do that command say 4 times before moving onto the next instruction set.
17:41 <Schism> Repeat until hands full?
17:42 <Ali> But I don't know if the basic bot can pick up four items without the upgrade
17:42 <Schism> It can't, it only has 3 hands.
17:42 <Ali> Its really hard to tell that to be honest
17:43 <Ali> I mean for basic stuff the commands are working out ok
17:43 <Schism> "Repeat Times 2" seems like it might work... I'm just looking at the wiki here.
17:43 <Ali> But the game gets rather grindy rather quick
17:43 <Ali> Repeat times two? Not seen that action command
17:44 <Schism> https://autonauts.gamepedia.com/Programming
17:44 * Ali is a bit of an idiot when it comes to coding if that wasn't obvious, but she did want to try this game.
17:44 <Schism> It does look interesting...
17:44 <Ali> Part of me doesn't want to read the wikis. It can ruin things cause I'd want to read up on everything in the game
17:49 <Schism> Fair enough, but the programming bits are just in lieu of what you've described as a lack of documentation.
18:00 <Ali> Ok that wasn't as bad as I thought it would be
18:00 <Ali> I thought it might be a list of full blown bot codes.
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18:03 <Schism> Oh, no, just the commands themselves.
18:04 <Schism> I'm not going to give you blueprints or anything like that.
18:05 <Ali> Kay
18:06 <Ali> Its a cute little game, just the weird thing is things tend to build up and not much else you can do for that time being as not everything you unlock needs to be used instantly.
18:06 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Pinkie Pie’s DIY Life Hacks! 💯 ‘Hello Pinkie Pie’ Ep. 6 | My Little Pony [ http://tinyurl.com/yacc7adt ]
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18:14 <PinkieShy> Hihi :D
18:19 * Ali licks PinkieShy nosie
18:19 * PrincessRainbows licks Ali till she's dripping
18:20 * Ali drips all over PrincessRainbows
18:20 <PinkieShy> I got 10 hours of sleep :D
18:20 <PinkieShy> Almost made a typo there..
18:20 <PinkieShy> I was starting out as '10 years'
18:20 <PinkieShy> lol
18:21 * PrincessRainbows yays and boops PinkieShy's horn too
18:21 <PinkieShy> But caught that typo in time
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18:24 * Schism offers Finwe a blend of cashews, cranberries, sunflower seeds, pepitas, and maybe a couple of almonds.
18:30 * Ali noms Schism tail
18:32 * Cepheid sighs.
18:34 <PinkieShy> I called today and complained :)
18:34 <PinkieShy> The manager at the dealership service department agreed with me that they should have been the ones to change it if it was dirty
18:35 <PinkieShy> They told me when i get a chance to take it on by, they'll check it and if truly needed.. They'll replac.e
18:47 * Schism provides Ali with one green rupee.
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19:06 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Another Celebration of the Fandom - DO YOU REMEMBER...... [ http://tinyurl.com/y9mpq245 ]
19:09 * PrincessRainbows curls up under Ali for a nap
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20:06 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: New Covers and Interview For Upcoming Transformers: Friendship in Disguise Crossover [ http://tinyurl.com/y8kgt3d4 ]
20:18 * Cepheid graghs. Is running out of energy
20:25 <PinkieShy> I'm getting mad at Hulu on my Roku.. :/
20:26 <PinkieShy> The thing loads some of the video and then pauses for a video minute, The audio then gets distorted so bad it pops.. Rebooting Roku fixes it until the next episode of the show i am watching..
20:27 * Finwe noms on the delicacies offered by Schism.
20:27 <Finwe> o3o
20:27 <Finwe> Lt Pony|26724.
20:27 <Finwe> o7
20:45 <Cepheid> Sounds like your device might be too far away from the router, PinkieShy.
20:45 <PinkieShy> I dunno honestly
20:45 <PinkieShy> Its in the living room and the router isn't far from that room at all
20:46 <PinkieShy> Maybe it's just a Hulu being overloaded problem.
20:46 * PinkieShy shrugs
20:48 <Finwe> Mr PinkieShy.
20:48 * Finwe doffs his hat.
20:48 * PinkieShy licks Finwe
20:48 * Finwe hugs a PinkieShy.
20:53 <Cepheid> Medications commonly used in lethal injections are apparently needed to help treat COVID-19 patients.
20:54 <Cepheid> In this case, mainly medications that act as sedatives, paralytics, or extreme painkillers, etc
21:16 * Schism offers heart attack patients some high explosive.
21:18 <Schism> Cepheid: Here, behold a Tabby, a Siamese, and a Void. https://twitter.com/catsofinstagram/status/1253037110292025344?s=19
21:27 * Pony|26724 boops Finwe.
21:27 * Schism provides Adra with some Twix.
21:37 <Cepheid> Heh.
21:38 * Finwe scrunchymuzzles at Pony|26724.
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21:56 <Cepheid> That said, not sure that's a siamese. Body structure, especially the head, doesn't look right.
22:00 * PinkieShy stuff his mouth with popcorn chicken
22:06 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Drawfriend Stuff (Pony Art Gallery) #3318 [ http://tinyurl.com/ya6t7znx ]
22:10 <PinkieShy> Happy Earth Day :)
22:27 * Ali noms on Cepheid and Schism tails
22:28 <Schism> Ahahahaha. Cepheid: "Chromium is a fairly typical google project where the recommended first step to building it is to become a google employee but some alternative workarounds are also available if that's not practical."
22:36 <Cepheid> Heh.
22:37 <Cepheid> https://twitter.com/StrangeCoisas/status/1252796529225719810/photo/1
22:49 <Schism> Hmm. Picked up a one-cup coffee drip ... thing. I think this will work. Just boil water, add coffee to filter, pour into cup, sip.
22:49 <Schism> Cepheid: Surely nothing could go wrong with that.
22:49 <Ali> Or just drink tea instead
22:49 <Ali> sponsored by Yorkshire
22:49 * Ali sips
22:50 <Ali> Pip pip cheerio old chaps
22:51 <Schism> Cepheid: Reminds me of the end of this classic mental breakdown. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8iKAwf-K7E
22:51 * Schism does have tea frequently! But this plastic coffee drip thing seems like it'll work better than, say, the old 12-cup coffeemaker which is more or less borked.
22:53 <Cepheid> The distressing part is, I've nearly had a meltdown that bad.
22:53 <Schism> As have I.
22:53 <Schism> And then there's the classic Ned Flanders breakdown.
22:54 <Schism> "Aw, hell diddly ding-dong CRAP!"
22:54 <Cepheid> Yeeeeah, that would have actually been the last meltdown to land me at a hospital.
22:54 <Cepheid> And the worst part is, I did it towards a bunch of university security guards.
23:09 <Schism> Randomly, this is the thing I picked up. https://shop.melitta.ca/products/plastic-pour-over%E2%84%A2-coffeemaker-1-cup?variant=8152522588212
23:10 <Schism> Also, yeah, Cephy. :<
23:10 <Cepheid> Ah, those.
23:10 <Schism> Yeah. Works pretty well.
23:10 <Schism> So I think I'll toss out the 12-cup thing I haven't used in, like, a year and a half.
23:14 <Cepheid> Heh.
23:15 <Cepheid> I'll just stick with my barbaric instant coffee.
23:15 <Schism> Heh, it's not like this takes much longer to make in the end, but you do you.
23:15 <Cepheid> When your sense of taste is dulled, you tend not to care about coffee flavouring.
23:15 <Schism> Fair nuff.
23:16 <Cepheid> Maybe if it had a tartness or spiciness to it, yeah.
23:16 <Cepheid> But conventional coffee all tastes the same to me, regardless of how it's prepared.
23:16 <Schism> You should pick up some Stash chai if you have the option. S'good, and is spicy, albeit not in the capsaicin manner.
23:17 <Cepheid> My uncle's planning to farm some chickens. My dad's talking to him now. <Me, loudly> "I'll pay good money to see my dad get pecked by a swarm of chickens!"
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23:21 <Schism> Direct him to @ksonney on Twitter.
23:21 <Cepheid> Heh.
23:21 <Schism> Chicken rancher extraordinaire.
23:22 * PrincessRainbows still hugs Ali tightly and whimpers
23:23 * Schism holds up some incuriosities.
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23:25 * Ali hugs PrincessRainbows but she needs naps now
23:25 *** Ali is now known as Ali|Nap
23:27 <PinkieShy> Might be asking my dad later to bring me some ramen home.. I really wanna try it..
23:28 <PinkieShy> That'll tell me something like 'hey you like noodles'
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23:29 <Schism> Mm, delicious alkaline noodles.
23:30 <PinkieShy> Is it bad that i would have to do the instant noodle method or the plastic one you cook on the stove?
23:31 <PinkieShy> Probably honestly.. As anything instant can't be good lol
23:31 <PinkieShy> I should have thought before asking lol
23:33 <Schism> Well, instant noodles aren't the worst. If you want real ramen, there are options, but many of them involve a noodle machine and making a strong caustic substance by hand.
23:34 <Schism> I should make some myself at some point, and freeze them -- they freeze well, I'm given to understand.
23:35 <PinkieShy> I should look to see if any of the japanese food restaurants here sell some when they all reopen..
23:37 <Schism> Here you go, PinkieShy: https://www.seriouseats.com/2018/11/the-ultimate-guide-to-making-ramen-noodles-at-home.html
23:37 * PinkieShy hugs Schism and then clicks the link
23:37 * Schism should get a scale measure for the kitchen.
23:38 <Schism> Just because measuring dry goods by weight is the better option.
23:38 <Cepheid> Real ramen takes friggen forever to make, PinkieShy.
23:38 <Cepheid> Some variants of it can take up to six or more hours to prepare.
23:38 <Cepheid> It's a meal you prepare for the next day.
23:38 <PinkieShy> dang o_o
23:38 <Schism> Or, if you have the freezer space, the next week.
23:40 <Schism> If you can make it, though, with some nice thin-sliced vegetables, some meat, an egg, maybe some chopped onion, and miso -- well.
23:43 <Cepheid> Honestly, I'm kinda shocked about how few ramen restaurants there are here in Ottawa, when you consider Toronto.
23:43 <Cepheid> There's a grand total of 3 places here in Ottawa that makes and serves ramen.
23:44 <Schism> Meanwhile, I've got 9 of them scattered up and down King Street within... not quite spitting distance, but not too far.
23:45 <Schism> Well, not quite true. There are a lot more places than just 9.
23:47 <Schism> This place is pretty close, and has takeout. https://www.craftyramen.com
23:47 <Cepheid> Yeah, unfortunately, for whatever reason, Ottawa is a pizza city.
23:47 <Cepheid> There's practically a pizza parlor within walking distance from each other pizza parlor.
23:48 <Schism> Heh, we've got pizza places all over here, too. Like a place that does fantastic schwarma pizza.
23:49 <Cepheid> I am not kidding with the frequency of pizza places here. There's one 5 minutes away, and another 10 minutes away. And from one of those places, there's one guaranteed to be at least 15 minutes away.
23:50 <Schism> That is rather more frequent than over here, to be sure.
23:50 <Cepheid> Boston Pizza just 10 minutes down the road from the Gabriels, which is 5 minutes walking distance. And another 5 minutes past Boston Pizza, there's a River Pizza. And... And so on, and so on, and so on.
23:52 <Cepheid> There are even pizza places not shown on Google Maps.
23:53 <Cepheid> Because the Pizza Pizza nearby isn't shown. Nor is the pizza place next to the Circle K just down Orleans Blvd.
23:53 <Cepheid> Both within 10 minutes walking distance.
23:53 <Cepheid> You can literally get a pizza anywhere in this city.
23:53 <Schism> Nice, to be sure.
23:53 <Cepheid> If you can't find a pizza in this city, you're either blind, or stupid. Or both.
23:53 <Cepheid> Depends.
23:53 <Schism> Ha. https://mctreeleth.tumblr.com/post/615290993946820608/here-it-is-the-instructions-to-make-a-pieced-and - I want one!
23:54 <Cepheid> The only pizza place I like is the Pizza Pizza near my place. The only one I like.
23:54 <Schism> Well, at least you are spoiled for choice.
23:54 <Cepheid> I also think I'm one of the few people keeping them in business. They never seem all that busy, and they're usually very quick.
23:56 <Schism> Oh, surely there are others, and chains like that have deliveries as their primary modus operandi.
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