Log archive of EquestriaDaily for Tuesday, 2020-05-19

00:02 <Schism> RainbowDash, https://twitter.com/rTerraria/status/1262182381391425537

00:03 <RichardMist> hoiii Starlight_Glimmer RainbowDash *waves*

00:05 * Schism makes a pot of rooibos, and lets it steep for 20 minutes.

00:05 <RichardMist> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5VdmpvVc0c

00:05 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.

00:05 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Goose Charges Groomer || ViralHog

00:08 <RainbowDash> Aww the joke item wasn't here

00:08 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Pony Plushie Compilation #404 [ http://tinyurl.com/y8pff8z7 ]

00:08 *** RainbowDash is now known as Ali

00:08 *** ChanServ sets mode: +qo Ali Ali

00:08 <Schism> I've half a mind to launch those seeds and go asplorin'.

00:08 <Ali> 05162020 has both crimson and corruption

00:08 <Ali> And some /interesting/ items

00:09 <Ali> Red's Potion and Moon Lord Legs

00:09 <Ali> Don't

00:09 <Ali> Drink the potion

00:09 <Schism> It is, evidently, Red's seed.  I wonder what unique items exist in 'not the bees'.

00:09 * Schism halfway wonders what the potion does. X3;

00:09 <RichardMist> hoii Ali! *waves*

00:10 <Ali> Schism, every debuff in the game for 60m

00:10 <Schism> Oohh.  How much does the Nurse charge to get rid of 'em?

00:10 <Ali> You'd die before you get to her

00:10 <Schism> Not that you'd survi--

00:10 <Schism> Yeah.

00:10 <Ali> Bleed, on fire, poison

00:11 <Schism> Still ways around that.

00:11 <Ali> THose will kill you in a mater of seconds

00:11 <Ali> Well if you're in Jouney mode

00:11 <Ali> OH right

00:11 <Ali> You're cursed

00:11 <Schism> Of course, getting the 'screw -everything-' accessory is a pain and a half.

00:11 <Ali> Oh the anti debuff charm

00:12 <Schism> Yeah, the Ankh Shield.  If you're that far along, of course...

00:14 <Schism> Ali: Did you know that if you cook a golden animal, you get a major boost to stats for 48 minutes?

00:15 <Ali> Pft

00:15 <Lumindia_> ...

00:15 <Lumindia_> NO

00:15 <Lumindia_> D:

00:15 <Ali> It doesn't stop everything Schism

00:15 <Ali> It also inflicts the suffocation debuff

00:15 <Schism> Admittedly, 10 gold might be more worthwhile.  And yea, I know, but it stops almost everything.

00:15 <Schism> Ooh.

00:15 <Ali> https://terraria.gamepedia.com/Red_Potion

00:16 <Ali> Two hour debuffs

00:16 <Schism> 2 hours on expert mode, natch.

00:17 <Ali> Isn't it great

00:17 <Ali> Two hours of doing nothing

00:17 * Cepheid uses memory editing tool. Sets health to maximum every frame.

00:20 * Ali sets lungs to hack and cough

00:20 * Cepheid dies.

00:21 <Ali> But you can't

00:21 <Ali> Your health is set to max every frame~

00:21 <Schism> Hum.  To head over to a 'low-hanging fruit' world to collect hellstone, or to just continue digging down in my main one...

00:23 * Cepheid coughs up a fresh, healthy set of lungs.

00:27 <Schism> Remember, folks.  Under no circumstances is Cepheid to be exposed to SCP-447-b.

00:28 <Cepheid> Schism, I've been through all sorts of health problems and came out ali- *dies, falls into a pool of green jello*

00:28 * Schism declares a Keter containment breach.

00:31 <Schism> Me: "Screw it, I'm just gonna dig down."  Also me: *misses 5 gold chests, 7 hearts, and a Nymph*

00:32 <Schism> Hello, Goblin Army.

00:32 <Schism> Finally, I might get that Goblin Tinkerer.

00:33 <Schism> 137 bullets in my gun, yoyo is prepared, boomerang has a great mod, 400 health and a full set of armour, I think I'm good.

00:38 * Schism does his best impression of a lawnmower. "That was short."

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00:40 <Schism> Hm.  Harpoons.  Knockback galore.

00:41 <Schism> I love how blinkroot just decides to flower 'when it's ready' and not a moment before.  That's fun.

00:42 <Ali> Now in Hardmode?

00:42 <Ali> Have fun as everything eats your face to death

00:42 <Schism> Not yet.  Haven't dug down to Hell yet.  I'm working on it.

00:42 <Schism> Though I might save this world as my 'basic' one and, once I've collected all the requisite materials, create a new one specifically for the purpose of Hardmode.

00:43 <Schism> Might even make it a Large one, because I'm crazy like that.

00:43 <Ali> Yeah I'm probably gonna ditch the med world I was on

00:43 <Ali> Its just a stupid mess

00:43 <Schism> Well, that's what the piggy bank and safe are for.

00:44 <Schism> Go nuts, make a town entirely out of iron.  o3o

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01:03 <Ali> Well this is going to be a fun race

01:03 <Ali> Most AI teams have 4-5 sets of non worn tires

01:03 <Ali> that can last only 8-13 laps each

01:03 <Ali> And the race goes for almost 50 laps

01:08 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Fanfiction Update - May 18th  [ http://tinyurl.com/ydd29noc ]

01:08 <Schism> Ali, have you started playing Gran Turismo?

01:09 <Cepheid> Yes, Spitfire, I am using my tablet at the kitchen table.  No, you do not need to knead my arm ow.

01:14 <Cepheid> https://twitter.com/LuminousOcean/status/1262552181619687430?s=19

01:16 <RichardMist> Gotta go, bye everyponies! *waves*

01:17 <Ali> Schism, why?

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01:18 <Cepheid> Cat also does this behavior when using laptop.  Sometimes even when using PC.

01:20 * Ali also flops as she's without her headset for another two hours due to dead battery.

01:20 <Schism> Ali: 200-lap races are a feature of the Gran Turismo series.

01:21 <Schism> By which I mean that I hated them from the very moment of introduction.

01:23 <Ali> Pft amatuer

01:23 * Ali has done Several NASCAR events that were 600 miles or 400 laps

01:25 <Schism> Well, I should be fairly close to Hell now and-- why is there a minecart path here?

01:25 <Ali> Cause reasons

01:25 <Cepheid> Well yes, but you're like me and not right in the head.  We are known for doing batguano crazy stuff(8+ hours on one boss comes to mind for me).  Seems to be a common trait among us. :P

01:27 <Cepheid> https://v.redd.it/4lb5x653fmz41

01:29 <Ali> I mean hell

01:29 <Ali> I've run full Talladega races

01:30 <Ali> Full Bristol races

01:30 <Ali> Full Brickyard 400s

01:30 <Cepheid> https://gfycat.com/viciousjauntyamurminnow

01:30 <Ali> Cept road courses

01:30 <Ali> Stock cars suck on those and I'm not good at timing lines on those.

01:31 <Ali> Cepheid, EES MY BALL

01:31 <Schism> H'okay.  I know I didn't mine out that lava floe, so I wonder who did...

01:31 <Cepheid> I can just hear the aggressive growling, even without sound.

01:32 <Ali> So I wanna know how this team in this game

01:32 <Ali> Can pay its three drivers a total of 3M a race

01:33 <Ali> and not just be bleeding out money like crazy

01:33 <Ali> I mean I have two drivers at only 400K total and I'm bleeding money.

01:39 <Schism> Mmm, Topaz Gemcorn.

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01:41 * Schism gets a Potion of Return while in Hell. "... WELL, my inventory's full ANYWAY, so."

01:43 <Cepheid> https://i.redd.it/cv26hjriaiz41.jpg

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01:45 <Schism> Hm.  ... I have obsidian.  I have fireblossom and waterleaf.  YOU BET YOUR TAIL I'm making a buttload of potions.

01:47 <Ali> Then you have a voodoo demon that you accidently kill over lava

01:48 <Schism> Well.  I mean, six of them.

01:48 <Schism> Also, hah.

01:49 <Schism> Moonglow's sprouted.  Also, I now have enough blinkroot and moonglow to collect all the ore.  o3o

01:50 <Cepheid> Same.

01:50 * Schism makes... six obsidian skin potions. "That should suffice."

01:50 <Cepheid> https://i.redd.it/hu291gr1ulz41.jpg If you ever hear of black cats rusting, this is what it refers to.

01:51 <Schism> A dark red glow taking over the void.

01:51 <Cepheid> Given I got over 400 pieces of hellstone with just 3 potions?

01:51 <Cepheid> Yeah, six will suffice.  Until WoF anyway.

01:52 <Schism> Hm, when'd I get a Panic Necklace?  Oh well, it'll be useful later I'm sure.

01:53 <Schism> I should also probably get a Gills Potion or twelve so I can explore the ocean properly and collect all that lovely Coral.

01:53 <Schism> Maybe make a Coral farm...

01:54 <Schism> Kinda torn on this weapon.  A Demonic The Rotted Fork might work well against the Eater of Worlds.

01:54 <Schism> Spears tend to tear that worm to pieces.

01:59 <Cepheid> They do tear worms a new one yes.

01:59 <Ali> Anything that pierces

01:59 <Schism> Yup.  Can use all these Fallen Stars to make Jester's Arrows, for example.

02:01 <Schism> You folks remembering to use those extra life hearts for regen lanterns?  o3o

02:01 <Schism> (If not gold.)

02:01 <Ali> Yeah you use extra hearts and starts for lanturns

02:02 * Schism eyes the Harpoon, and tries it out. "Well, this is for crap."

02:03 <Ali> Just like summoners AM I RIGHT FOLKS

02:03 <Ali> Two staffs that are hard to get, one is super circumstantial

02:03 <Divide|Adagio> Oh, I do hope my computer isn't overheating again...

02:03 <Ali> And the Hornet and Imp staffs are so inaccurate

02:03 <Divide|Adagio> Was working just a bit ago... *check*

02:03 <Ali> I mean I do like the whip ideas

02:04 <Ali> But the basic one being 14g and on the Zoologist

02:04 <Ali> I mean you could just get the Jungle based one before having them show up.

02:04 <Ali> And then the third one drops from WoF, so that's kinda iffy.

02:05 <Divide|Adagio> Black on top, white on bottom...

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02:08 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Nightly Discussion #2165 [ http://tinyurl.com/ycgzvzmb ]

02:11 * Divide|Adagio dusts out Nocturne again, then starts her back up.

02:12 <Cepheid> I can only conclude that 1) your motherboard is going, 2) your cpu fan is going, or 3) you got the cpu fan hooked up to the wrong fan connector on the motherboard.

02:12 <Ali> Well last time it vibrated loose or something didn't it?

02:18 <Cepheid> The only reason I mention 3 is because my motherboard includes a CPU_OPT connector for a fan, but it is powered and managed differently from the standard CPU fan connector.

02:21 <Divide|Adagio> Fngh.  My CPU wasn't overheating before...

02:22 <Divide|Adagio> BIOS, what do you have to say about all this?

02:22 <Divide|Adagio> CPU holding at 47?  Okay, smething's up.

02:22 <Divide|Adagio> something, too.

02:25 <Cepheid> What's the problem?

02:26 <Divide|Adagio> Fan might not be spinning freely.

02:27 <Divide|Adagio> I'll clean it off and make sure the thermal grease is fine too.

02:28 <Cepheid> Time for a new fan.  o3o

02:29 <Divide|Adagio> Quite possibly.  It appears to have some friction.  Then again, could've just been a misapplication of thermal grease.

02:32 <Cepheid> What kind of CPU fan can can be affected by thermal grease?  Usually there is a heatsink between the CPU and the fan.

02:35 <Divide|Adagio> Pff.  I'm not saying that it is, I'm just saying I might as well replace the thermal grease while I have this thing open.

02:37 <Cepheid> Is it a stock fan?  If so, for what CPU?

02:46 <Divide|Adagio> It's a CoolerMaster, AMD, and it's not quite stock but it's close.

02:46 * Divide|Adagio cleans out the fan a bit and makes sure the grease is properly applied. "Not how I wanted to spend the end of my weekend..."

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02:48 <PinkieShy> uhh.. How'd that happen lol

02:48 <PinkieShy> I was playing Luigi Mansion at 8pm and now its almost 11pm.. It feels like i only played an hour.

02:49 <Divide|Adagio> Oh... hmm.

02:49 <Divide|Adagio> Something is spinning up and failing.

02:49 <Divide|Adagio> Oh, I hope this didn't damage the CPU...

02:50 <Divide|Adagio> Box is now no longer booting.  At all.

02:50 <Divide|Adagio> No ...

02:50 <Divide|Adagio> FML.

02:51 <Cepheid> Oh gods.  Not even a POST code?

02:51 <Divide|Adagio> Not even that.

02:53 <Divide|Adagio> Monitors are off, no POST, no nothing.  This is an ex-PC.

02:53 <Divide|Adagio> Guess I'll need to get new parts next weekend.  Lovely.

02:53 <Cepheid> Usual diagnostics.  Start by reseating all the devices.  Making sure all the connections are snug.

02:53 <Divide|Adagio> I will.  And I'll double-check my CPU.  I hope it's not a bent pin.

02:54 <Divide|Adagio> Right now I am... going to take a few moments to unwind.

02:55 <Cepheid> Unless you removed the CPU, it is unlikely to be a bent pin.  Usually once they are locked in place, they are secure from such damage.

02:55 <Divide|Adagio> I did remove the CPU in order to clean it for more thermal grease.  It's possible.

02:56 <Divide|Adagio> If it turns out to be that, then... well.  It's been years, so I should upgrade anyway, but that's a kick in the ass.

02:56 <Divide|Adagio> Pardon my language.

02:57 <Cepheid> I usually just clean the grease off while it is in the socket.  I assume you had a legitimate reason to not do it that way.

02:57 <Divide|Adagio> Big hands and not enough space.

02:58 <Divide|Adagio> Which was stupid of me, but it might be the cause of all this.  Gah.  

02:58 <Divide|Adagio> Well, that's why I have my laptop.

02:59 <Cepheid> Ah.  Yeah that'd do it.  Guessing you use a small form factor setup then.

02:59 <Divide|Adagio> No, it's a regular box...

02:59 * Divide|Adagio sighs. "I'll take everything apart later. Not something to do tonight. I have work in the morning, after all."

03:00 <Divide|Adagio> At least I can use this with emulators and I have a decent library.  Maybe I'll see about playing FF5 again.

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03:01 <Divide|Adagio> I've a Best Buy which is readily available, so that might be a better source for parts than Canada Computers.

03:01 <Divide|Adagio> Either way I'll be paying out the nose... well.

03:03 <Divide|Adagio> A new CPU and motherboard shouldn't run me... that much.  I'm wondering if I should stick with AMD or go for Intel, though.

03:04 <Ali> Sure you want to go intel after their breach or something on bios?

03:04 <Cepheid> Still gonna put money on "It is something simple, but easily overlooked." Too much stuff on motherboards these days.  And some of it is crammed into tight spots.

03:04 <Divide|Adagio> Could be RAM.  Could be a lot of things.

03:05 <Divide|Adagio> Fans blow, at max.  Nothing on screen, no POST beep.

03:05 <Cepheid> I once forgot to plug the power cables back into the GPU.

03:06 <Divide|Adagio> I could also spend my time tonight watching a bit of Disenchantment on the TV and just leave the PC for now.

03:08 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Makenshi: Pinkie Music: brambleshadow4 - Hyperactive [Chiptune] [ http://tinyurl.com/y8fzpczx ]

03:08 <Cepheid> Meanwhile, I'm gonna see if I can get some sleep.

03:12 <Divide|Adagio> "Eavesdroppers will be dropped from eaves."

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03:19 <Divide|Adagio> Wow, Billy West did a lot of voices in this series.

03:25 <Divide|Adagio> I should be more upset tonight, and I'm sure I'll be completely pissed tomorrow, but right now... too tired.

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04:01 <Divide|Adagio> Hah.  "Orphans for sale: everyone must go."

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04:57 <Finwe> Good morning, my perissodactyls of minute stature.

04:58 * Ali boops Finwe

05:00 <Finwe> Miss Ali.

05:00 * Finwe scrunchymuzzles at Ali.

05:00 <Ali> So apperently the WoF doesn't despawn when it kills you

05:05 <PinkieShy> Not sound harsh but..

05:05 <PinkieShy> I went to the DMV today and nobody was social distancing in the no appointment line.. I had appointment so totally seperate line

05:05 <PinkieShy> The no appointment line was like close enough to be breathing on each others necks..

05:06 <Divide|Adagio> PinkieShy: Yeah.  It's... nobody's doing social distancing properly in many places.

05:06 <Divide|Adagio> Or wearing masks, which are meant to protect OTHER PEOPLE FROM YOU.

05:06 <PinkieShy> Its people like that, that isn't social distancing is why this virus is still spreading with numbers as high as 200 cases daily here..

05:06 <Finwe> Messrs Divide|Adagio, PinkieShy and Cepheid.

05:06 * Finwe doffs his hat.

05:06 <Ali> Huh that's interesting

05:07 <PinkieShy> I was terrified to even get out of the car until i saw the sign for appointment line

05:07 <Ali> Divide|Adagio, I think this world only has a single crimson

05:07 * Ali runns around Divide|Adagio without a mask

05:07 <PinkieShy> Like seriously terrified as i haven't had the virus yet, and i don't want to get it

05:07 <PinkieShy> I'll do everything possible to protect myself as long as possible and as long as possible to me can mean forever if need be.

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05:20 * Finwe hugs a PinkieShy and an Ali.

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05:51 * PrincessRainbows boops Ali's horn and yawns

05:51 * Ali huggles on the PrincessRainbows

05:52 * PrincessRainbows is sleepy filly already, bleh

05:54 * PrincessRainbows curls up under Ali for sleepies. Nini

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06:04 <PinkieShy> I've been up almost 24 hours...

06:04 <PinkieShy> woke at 7:30am.. its 2:04am now lol

06:06 * Ali tucks PinkieShy to bed

06:08 <Divide|Adagio> "Have fun embarassing some other kingdom."

06:16 * Finwe noms on Ali's tail.

06:19 * Finwe sings a lullaby to PinkieShy.

06:20 <Finwe> Lilla Carl sov sött i frid, ty du får tids nog vaka, tids nog se vår onda tid och hennes galla smaka. Världen är en sorgeö, bäst man andas skall man dö och bli mull tillbaka.

06:21 <Finwe> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YlxAhkvv9k

06:21 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.

06:21 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Bellmans Vaggvisa - Bellmans Lullaby

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07:43 * Finwe returns from a forenoon run.

07:43 * Finwe , exhausted, collapses upon Ali.

07:43 * Ali squeaks and snugs on Finwe

07:44 <Finwe> What is counterintuitive is that my blood glucose level rises during these runs.

07:45 <Finwe> I guess it goes like <cells> give us glocose <liver> alright, glucose is what you get *glycolyses glycogen* <pancreas> insulin? no can do <cells> :|

07:49 * Divide|Adagio happily watches a bit of Disenchantment.

07:50 <Divide|Adagio> Ali: I am upset, though.  Nocturne is le ded.  Need new CPU & motherboard.

07:50 <Ali> Yeah and I'm finding it hard to move onto a new world

07:50 <Ali> Its nicer

07:50 <Ali> Only a single evil biome and its stuck in the middle of the snow biome

07:51 <Ali> But other than that

07:51 <Ali> It just feels strange

07:52 * Finwe patpats Divide|Adagio's poor deceased computer.

07:53 <Finwe> Or maybe it is just pining for the fjords.

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08:11 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ConfusionRift

08:12 <ConfusionRift> Hello everypony.

08:13 * Ali snugs into ConfusionRift

08:13 * ConfusionRift huggles Ali.

08:16 <Finwe> Lt Cdr ConfusionRift.

08:16 <Finwe> o7

08:18 <ConfusionRift> RAdm. Finwe. (salutes)

08:28 <Divide|Adagio> Hiya, ConfusionRift.

08:28 * Divide|Adagio blehs. "Desktop is le ded."

08:29 <ConfusionRift> Oooooh. That sucks.

08:29 <Divide|Adagio> Yeh.  So been watching Disenchantment on the TV instead.

08:30 <Divide|Adagio> Guess it's retro gaming for me this week, until I get a weekend and get to go out to Best Buy or whatever.

08:30 <ConfusionRift> What happened?

08:32 <Divide|Adagio> Kept shutting down.  I tried cleaning everything inside but I might have damaged something while so doing; the motherboard's fans run, but it won't POST.  Or even beep.

08:33 <ConfusionRift> 0_0;

08:33 <Divide|Adagio> Likely the initial issue was with the CPU and fan, as it was running hot (45C) even in BIOS, but it's impossible to say for sure.  Well, it's been a couple of years now.  A Ship of Theseus redesign was kind of in the cards anyway.

08:34 <Divide|Adagio> (I'm trying to stay positive so I don't engage in defenestration.)

08:35 <ConfusionRift> Do all the fans run, or is it just the PSU?

08:36 <Divide|Adagio> Every single one.

08:36 <ConfusionRift> What am I saying? You know what this could be. Since you're planning on changing things, it might not be pertinent anymore.

08:37 <Divide|Adagio> Yeah, the cause is kind of moot.  I'll keep the RAM and possibly the video card for now.

08:38 <Divide|Adagio> Probably update one of the two after this.

08:40 * ConfusionRift sighs. "My cousin never learns."

08:41 <Divide|Adagio> What now, I have to ask?

08:43 <ConfusionRift> The problem is that he used to have several desktops, which would always turn into the house's public computer. This was bad, because no one care about the condition or maintenance of the system. His last tower died because the flooded it with garbage data, way too many programs running (and doing nothing), and kept jumping to questionable sites and applications.

08:44 <Divide|Adagio> Yeesh.  The first two are defensible.  The latter?  Not so much.

08:45 <ConfusionRift> All vents got clogged with cat fur and dust, it was constantly running hot, and they left trash and junk around it. Anyways... I replaced Obsidian (my old system) for this one. Took all the components and gave them to him, since he had no PC anymore.

08:46 <ConfusionRift> He moved and is staying on another house just as full as this one, and, LO AND BEHOLD, everyone started using it on minute 1 he got it running.

08:47 <ConfusionRift> If it dies, it dies. I'm not helping him anymore with that.

08:47 <Divide|Adagio> Gotta cut your losses somewhere.

08:48 <Ali> I'm just glad that the CPU on this thing was running on low

08:48 <Ali> I really couldn't afford a new PC

08:48 <Ali> Let alone understand all the technical jargon they put before parts

08:48 <Ali> I went to Newegg to just browse parts

08:49 <Ali> And I didn't understand jack *yay*

08:49 <ConfusionRift> What kills is that it was set to low power by default. Unless someone set it up that way before handing it to you.

08:50 <Divide|Adagio> Bleh.  I need a few hours of sleep now.  Got some, need a little more, as I'm working at 8:15-18:00 now.

08:51 <ConfusionRift> Pffft. Wait... that is, if you have a lunch, 9 1/4 hours.

08:51 <Ali> I don't know why it was set to low ConfusionRift, but I really can't afford a whole new tower, let alone try and put it together.

08:52 <ConfusionRift> Bleck, 8 hours and 45 minutes.

08:52 <Ali> I mean heck, all but the HDD and Motherboard/RAM were hand me downs from someone I don't even see anymore...

08:52 <Divide|Adagio> ConfusionRift: Yeah, I get an hour lunch.

08:54 <ConfusionRift> Ooooh, I see what's up. That is dumb.

08:54 <Divide|Adagio> The fact that I get precisely 33.75 hours so I don't go into overtime?

08:56 <ConfusionRift> That, and (don't know how it is over there) over here the most one can work be regulation is 8 hours. So, likely, they did that so they can go "hey, you aren't working 9 whole hours, so it's fine".

08:57 <Divide|Adagio> I think it's 12 hours here.  Though they give benefits after X number.

08:57 * ConfusionRift laughs.

08:57 <Divide|Adagio> Ah well, I got paid for not working yesterday, so.  For now, a nap.

08:58 <ConfusionRift> Alrighty, have a good rest.

08:58 <Divide|Adagio> By the way, Rifty, if you have Netflix, Disenchantment is good stuff.

09:00 <ConfusionRift> Since I kinda stopped watching Netflix, I decided to just cancel the sub, and use that to pay for the online services on the Switch. Sowwy.

09:00 <Divide|Adagio> Alas, alack.  Probably for the best, though.  While I've found much amusement in it, better to spend the money on something you enjoy.

09:00 <ConfusionRift> At least I got a tower of DVDs.

09:01 <ConfusionRift> Oh, I was curious about that series.

09:01 <ConfusionRift> Might check somehow.

09:02 <ConfusionRift> Ali: It least it was just that. Should be able to squeeze a few more years before any replacements. :P

09:04 <Divide|Adagio> Okay, awaaaay.  Take care, folks.

09:04 <ConfusionRift> Yeah, without the knowhow, working with PC components can be overwhelming... and dangerous if you poke the wrong places.

09:04 <ConfusionRift> Laters, Divide|Adagio.

09:12 <Ali> ConfusionRift, I just don't trust pre built model PCs any

09:12 <Ali> They pre load them with their manufactuer garbage software that does nothing but annoy you and help little

09:13 <Ali> Like my mom's laptop is built in with...ugh.  Norton Antivirus

09:13 <ConfusionRift> I don't either, after that $500 botch I had before. The RAM died 3 months in, the PSU died like a year after, and then the blackout happened and burned the motherboard.

09:13 * ConfusionRift pukes oil. "N-N-Norton..."

09:13 <Ali> That program is about as useful as a pile of crap.  While Malwarebytes has gotten rid of 222 PuPs on her comptuer

09:14 <Ali> Don't ask WHY there's that many, just she has issues.

09:15 <ConfusionRift> When you search the web, you're basically running with a net, just collecting garbage and malicious stuff on the way.

09:18 <ConfusionRift> For example, usually, the first few links on a Google search are ads (and yes, they are marked as such). And despite them being legitimate, they often are a security issue.

09:28 * Lumindia_ awakens

09:28 * Lumindia_ gives Ali some orange juice

09:28 * Ali flops over Lumindia_

09:28 <Lumindia_> gettin' ready for bed?

09:28 * Lumindia_ snuggle

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09:42 <Finwe> Messrs Golden and Lumindia_.

09:43 * Finwe doffs his hat.

09:43 <Golden> Hey

09:43 <Ali> Lumindia_, dunno

09:43 * Finwe ruffles the awoken Lumindia_.

09:44 * Finwe ruffles the Ali as well.

09:51 * Ali yawnsies at Finwe

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11:02 <RazorSharpFang> Seems that quite a few companies are running low on capital and are doing fundraising in the form of Share Purchase Plans, which issue new shares.

11:02 <RazorSharpFang> I wonder why. :)

11:06 <Finwe> Our Minister of Health announced just that restaurants get to open from 1st June onwards.

11:07 <RazorSharpFang> That's not too bad I suppose.

11:07 <RazorSharpFang> Are they still able to do take-outs ?

11:07 <Finwe> Yes.

11:08 <Finwe> The maximum number of customers is going to be scaled by a factor of 0.5 and opening hours are limited between 6 a.m. and 11 p.m.

11:08 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Morning Discussion #1936 [ http://tinyurl.com/y9cpxaeq ]

11:08 <RazorSharpFang> That's actually a lot more generous than I thought they were going to be with the opening hours.

11:08 <Finwe> Alcoholic beverages can be served from 9 a.m. to 10 p.m.

11:08 <RazorSharpFang> An hour of alcohol-free right before closing, huh?

11:09 <Finwe> Yup.

11:09 <Finwe> Adds variance to when people actually leave.

11:09 <Finwe> Otherwise it would be everyone leaving at closing time.

11:09 <RazorSharpFang> Yeah, there's the "We are closed now" and then people slowly drift towards to exit.

11:10 <Finwe> Exactly.

11:12 <Finwe> And the Council of State given mandate to mitigate the regulation if the epidemioligical situation essentially changes towards better.

11:12 <Finwe> Buffets are not allowed, the dishes have to be served on plate.

11:13 <RazorSharpFang> I wonder if things will return to normal.

11:14 <Finwe> Í'm glad that I don't own a nightclub.

11:14 <RazorSharpFang> Why is there a dash above your I?

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11:15 <Finwe> I must have accidentally pressed the acute accent key before pressing shift+i.

11:16 <Finwe> The Swedish-Finnish keyboard layout only has å, ä and ö readily accented, all other accented characters have to be produced by first pressing the accent key and then the base key.

11:16 <Finwe> Like ò, ë, û and such.

11:17 <RazorSharpFang> Interesting.

11:20 <RazorSharpFang> Tonight, I am filing and processing financial work.

11:20 <Finwe> The ^/¨ key lies next to enter and the ´/` key lies next to backspace, both quite frequently used, so it's not unusual to accidentally hit the accent keys instead.

11:20 <RazorSharpFang> I presume the Finnish/Swedish keyboard layout is quite different to the US-layout I am used to.

11:21 <Finwe> https://support.apple.com/library/content/dam/edam/applecare/images/en_US/keyboards/swedish_numeric.png

11:22 <Finwe> A bit better image: https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0096/5269/9196/products/2_406313-2500x688_1800x495.jpg?v=1570603510

11:23 <Finwe> Also, wrong layout.

11:23 <Finwe> !facehoof

11:23 * DerpyBot puts her hoof in Finwe's face

11:23 <DerpyBot> Now lick it.

11:23 * Finwe licks it

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11:55 <Lumindia_> o vo

11:56 * Finwe o3o's at Lumindia_.

11:59 <Cepheid> I've seen some *YAY*.  But I never expected I'd see a cat stop eating food to go get pets.  Spitfire was eating.  I walk into the living room.  He bolts ahead of me and flops onto the floor for pets.

12:00 <Divide|Adagio> I think that's a violation of the laws of reality.

12:08 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Drawfriend - Equestria Girls / Anthro MLP Art Gallery #196 [ http://tinyurl.com/y87tzr52 ]

12:14 <Cepheid> It's weird, I know.

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12:24 <Lumindia_> hecc

12:26 <Cepheid> Quit heccing and get hecking, scrub.

12:28 <Lumindia_> Heck

12:28 <Lumindia_> better?

12:29 <Cepheid> Yes.

12:33 <Cepheid> So what is everyone up to, besides hecking, heccing, hacking and haccing?

12:35 <Lumindia_> about to get my NIN to 80

12:35 <Lumindia_> then all I have left is bard

12:35 <Lumindia_> and EVERYTHING will be at 80

12:35 <Lumindia_> besides BLU, obv

12:37 <Cepheid> That's prolly gonna be mildly infuriating to see.

12:37 <Lumindia_> eh

12:37 <Cepheid> All level 80 classes.  And one level 60.

12:37 <Lumindia_> everything is orange

12:38 <Lumindia_> https://i.imgur.com/Mmr1UCh.png

12:38 <Lumindia_> BLU is orange, it doesn't bother me

12:54 <Cepheid> https://i.redd.it/h56m414vcnz41.png

13:04 <Cepheid> https://v.redd.it/sok12fgr5nz41

13:08 <Cepheid> https://v.redd.it/6p2wu03ckpz41

13:21 * Finwe redds it.

13:29 * Finwe noms on pasta al tonno e peperone.

13:34 <Cepheid> I made a mistake.  After handling spicy salami, I rubbed my eye.

13:38 <Finwe> Cepheid: It's possible to become immune to that.

13:38 <Finwe> Just eat lots of chilli, and once you get accustomed to it, some spicy salami in the eyes doesn't hurt at all.

13:39 <Cepheid> I am not willing to test that.

13:39 <Cepheid> But that might explain why the symptoms were mild and lasted like, 15 seconds.

13:39 <Finwe> Chilli sauces with lots of vinegar still hurt, though, because vinegar in the eyes is not very pleasant.

13:40 <Finwe> An old Finnish proverb says that you'll get accustomed to anything except an icicle up your arse, because it melts before you get accustomed to it.

13:44 <Cepheid> The more you talk about Finland, the more I wonder if it is a real country.

13:46 <Finwe> The unreal country is Belgium.

13:46 <Cepheid> What makes you say that?

13:46 <Finwe> https://zapatopi.net/belgium/

13:53 <Cepheid> ...  A conspiracy theory that Belgium is not real.  Gods damn, people.

13:54 <Finwe> From 1999. o3o

13:54 <Cepheid> Might as well start a conspiracy theory that Canada doesn't exist.

13:55 <Finwe> I don't even remember how I first found that. The Internet search engines weren't that good back in 1999.

13:55 <Finwe> Yahoo and Altavista, if I remember correctly.

13:56 <Finwe> 'Twas Google which revolutionised searching the web.

14:06 <Lumindia_> wait what

14:07 <Lumindia_> ... Finwe what the heck

14:15 <Koopz> Nexon is pushing Kartrider: Drift really hard into my face on Facebook

14:15 <Koopz> honestly i was pretty confused until now

14:16 <Koopz> they were talking about a second closed beta and i was sitting here "didn't i play this around 13 years ago?"

14:17 <Lumindia_> o.o

14:17 <Koopz> turns out: yes. I've been playing the open beta of "Kartrider"

14:17 <Koopz> it vanished sometime 2008 though

14:18 <Koopz> and now they're trying to revive this thing apparently

14:19 <Finwe> Lumindia_: What what the heck?

14:21 * Finwe noms on Lumindia_'s tail.

14:21 <Koopz> ha! i got my Ninja to 80 last weekend

14:21 <Koopz> lacking on most other classes though :P

14:22 * Finwe boops Koopz with a ninja-tō.

14:23 <Finwe> Lightninjatō, the preferred weapon of Obi-wan Shinobi.

14:23 <Finwe> o3o

14:25 * Koopz Chi-Ten-Jin's and executes the Suiton ninjutsu, effectively unloading a barrel of water upon Finwe

14:25 * Finwe drips water at Lumindia_.

14:25 <Finwe> *drip* *drip* *drip*

14:26 * PrincessRainbows also licks Finwe till he's dripping again

14:26 * Koopz Jin-Chi's and executes the Raiton ninjutsu, summoning a lightning from the sky

14:26 <Finwe> Sneaky: https://www.theverge.com/2020/5/18/21262316/doordash-pizza-profits-venture-capital-the-margins-ranjan-roy

14:58 * Cepheid sets up doctor's appointment to get refill for Symbicort and maybe an antibiotic for his chest.

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15:08 <Cepheid> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Q6zx9Ivc9Y Man, even monsters know better than those protesters.

15:08 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.

15:08 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Monstie Shots: A Frenzy PSA

15:24 * Cepheid provides Finwe with The Beheaded. https://deadcells.gamepedia.com/The_Beheaded

15:31 <Cepheid> Ye know.  That's an interesting way to do 2D graphics.

15:31 <Cepheid> With a pixelated appearance.

15:32 <Cepheid> Use a low-resolution framebuffer, render a 3D model, flattened, then render the contents of the framebuffer, scaled up, without linear filtering.

15:37 <Cepheid> That said, Dead Cells uses a different approach apparently.  Starts with a low-resolution sprite sheet to define the animations, then uses a 3D editor to create high-definition models, matching the animations in the process.  Then uses a tool to render PNG of the model at low resolution, along with a normal map image for cell shading.

15:42 <Cepheid> Not surprised, to be honest.

15:42 <Cepheid> Thinking on it, the biggest issue with the approach I mentioned above, is that you're still rendering a full model.  It's simpler to render a flat image than to render a complex 3D model.

15:43 <Cepheid> That said, the above approach can be applied to create the relevant images quickly and efficiently.

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16:12 * Finwe renders unto Cepheid what is his.

16:18 * Cepheid doesn't know what is, and isn't his.

16:19 <Cepheid> Sometimes, I wonder if I'm just too scatterbrained to complete projects.

16:19 <Cepheid> 'Cause when I think about how it works..

16:19 <Cepheid> Like, I complete assignments.  I complete school projects.  Those are fine, for whatever reason.

16:20 <Cepheid> So why can't I complete personal projects?  Looking at it, it seems that what project I work on is dependent on a few factors.

16:20 <Cepheid> For game projects, which one I work on is dependent on what games I am currently playing.

16:21 <Cepheid> Metroidvanias, side-scrollers, tile-based games, those invoke work on 2D games of similar genres.  Dungeon crawlers, Souls-likes, those invoke work on 3D games of similar genres.  RPGs, same thing.

16:21 <Cepheid> And, the way I play games tends to be particularly...  interesting?

16:22 <Cepheid> I focus hard on one or two games at a time for weeks on end, then suddenly do a 90 degree turn and focus on another one or two games of a different genre/style.

16:22 <Cepheid> And that's usually around the point where I lose interest in one or more projects.

16:22 <Cepheid> The other case where I lose interest is when I encounter a problem that I feel should be fixed, but the fix itself is a large project of it's own.

16:22 <Cepheid> Like for example, finding a P/Invoke-less way of implementing the X11 or Wayland protocol in C#.

16:24 <Cepheid> Or determining what would be required to abstract the underlying behavior and rendering code of WinForms and/or WPF, so that a generic interface can be created, which is then implemented by different libraries that utilize P/Invoke or P/Invoke-less ways of communicating with the server/shell for rendering windows and widgets.

16:24 <Cepheid> That particular project would be a monumental effort, though.

16:25 <Cepheid> Examination of the current WinForms and WPF implementations for .NET Core suggest that P/Invoke is heavily integrated into the code, calling into core Windows API libraries.

16:25 <Cepheid> Not that it'd be impossible.  Just, it'd be difficult.

16:35 <Cepheid> Sometimes, I wonder what I could do if I were somehow bound to a single project, and bound to it to completion.

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16:55 <Cepheid> I like how there seems to be a disconnect between The Beheaded's personality in the animated trailers, and his actual in-game counterpart's personality.

16:58 <Cepheid> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLz1r_sCeXc Case in point.  He's a somewhat clumsy idiot here.  But in the game, he takes on a more serious tone about various things, while still being sarcastic and jokey.

16:58 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Dead Cells: Rise of the Giant DLC, Major update... Thing - An animated trailer

17:08 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Makenshi: Pony & Community Feelings Music: Acarcion - The Other Side (Prod. TCB) [Hip Hop] [ http://tinyurl.com/yabrzu6q ]

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17:10 <RichardMist> hoiii everyponies! *waves*

17:17 <Cepheid> Hey.

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17:23 <RichardMist> Cepheid how are ya today?

17:27 <Cepheid> Aside from coughing, not too bad.  Little tired 'cause I didn't sleep well last night.

17:30 <RichardMist> Cepheid: oh, I hope you will get better as soon as possible

17:30 <Cepheid> I've already called my doctor and got some prescriptions, so I should be fine in a week or two.

17:30 <Cepheid> It's nothing serious, fortunately.  Definitely not COVID-19.

17:38 <RichardMist> okie

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17:55 <Divide|Adagio> Cepheid: http://www.threepanelsoul.com/comic/oh-please

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17:55 <Cepheid> Yes, that is my sister's dog.

17:56 <Cepheid> Apparently, NCH is getting complaints over the latest MH clip they did.

17:57 <Cepheid> They drew anthropomorphized Kulve Taroth doing a SFW pole dance.  Ironically, it's not the pole dance that people are complaining about.

17:58 <Cepheid> Apparently they're getting "furry"-oriented complaints.

17:58 * Divide|Adagio eyerolls.

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17:58 <Divide|Adagio> Didn't they have those anthropomorphized monster 'cards' on an earlier segment?

17:59 <Cepheid> They did, yes.

17:59 <Cepheid> Mind, those images were drawn by another artist unrelated to NCH, and used with permission.  In this case, the Kulve Taroth is drawn by NCH themselves.

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18:00 <Cepheid> Apparently there is a distinction between using someone else' anthro art, versus making your own.

18:00 <Cepheid> Alas, I didn't check out the MR Kulve Taroth.  But given the video, I can assume she spends much of her time curling or curled around the pillar in the center of her primary arena.

18:01 <Cepheid> With the occasional heating of the ceiling to drop molten gold/rock.

18:08 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Comics: Fictional You / Butterscotch and Marshmallows (Shipping) / Past Sins #4 / Fix #2/1  [ http://tinyurl.com/y9orbc58 ]

18:08 * Cepheid carefully designs algorithms.

18:09 * Cepheid subjects Schism to Zinogre.

18:10 <Cepheid> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFJ0-mZLpp0

18:10 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.

18:10 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about MHGU | G-rank Zinogre solo (Striker Dual Blades) - 3'55

18:11 <Cepheid> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EqlM--T5pA And then we have this monstrosity, a subspecies of Zinogre we'll never get to see.

18:11 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about 【MHF-G】雷刃覚醒、『極み吼えるジンオウガ』撃退&モーション紹介【最強クラスのモンスター】 フルHD

18:12 <Finwe> Mr Divide|Adagio.

18:12 * Finwe doffs his hat.

18:20 * Cepheid thinks hard. Steam emits from his head.

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18:33 <RichardMist> hello Mr. Finwe *nods*

18:41 <Cepheid> Right, I need to stop, I think.

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18:46 <Cepheid> Yep, stopping.  Body feels like it's overheating.

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19:12 <RichardMist> hoiii RyuImperator! *waves*

19:13 * RyuImperator waves back

19:19 <Cepheid> Holy hell did my head ever go from "Feelin' Fine" to "Oh gods why!?" quickly with my headphones on.

19:22 <RichardMist> owie Cepheid, maybe some rest?

19:23 <Cepheid> I took some tylenol, I'm eating some soup, then getting changed into pajamas to rest, yes.

19:24 <RichardMist> ok

19:34 <Cepheid> Schism, do you suppose the SCP Foundation folks would mind if I made a reference to them somehow in my game?  I'd ask permission of course, but you have a better "connection" with them than I do, so I thought I'd ask you first to see if it's worth asking them about it directly.

19:36 <Cepheid> Especially since I suspect I may be influenced by them a tad now.

19:38 <Cepheid> If you live in North America, apparently MH Generations Ultimate is 70% off on the Switch.

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20:06 <LunaticHell> goooooooooooooooooooood morning, equestria

20:06 <LunaticHell> I just tired to watch the new season of American Dad

20:07 <LunaticHell> ...well it ended with my accidentally pouring red bull up my nose, how's everyone else?

20:07 <Cepheid> Boiling.

20:07 <LunaticHell> Summer in the city?

20:08 <Ali> Freezing

20:08 <LunaticHell> It's actually surprising how it's still pretty nice here.

20:08 <LunaticHell> oh hi Ali, nice to see ya.

20:08 <Ali> Its only 60F here, when its about 70F normally

20:08 <Ali> Well ok

20:08 <Ali> Not freezing

20:08 <Ali> But its chilly

20:08 <LunaticHell> Well, I'm still walking around with my motorbike boots, cause they rock.

20:09 <LunaticHell> Like seriously, best hong kong made motorbike boots I've ever worn.

20:09 <LunaticHell> Also the only pair I've ever worn, come to think of it.

20:09 <Cepheid> More likely just a reaction by my body to the headache I have.

20:09 <LunaticHell> Ah now that sounds like it sucks a lot.

20:10 <Ali> Meanwhile, back to salvaging this season in Motorsport Manager

20:10 <LunaticHell> Try to get something cool near your main artery.

20:10 <Ali> Must...win...IGTC..

20:11 <LunaticHell> motorsport manager? A game I take it?

20:11 <Ali> Yeah, a F1 management game from 16

20:11 <Ali> Its not perfect, but its fun

20:11 <Ali> There's three series to take part in

20:12 <Ali> The F1 series, the GT series, and then finally the Endurance series

20:12 <Ali> I've won F1 with custom team, now trying to do the same in the GT series.

20:12 <Ali> Just having a /few/ hiccups with that.

20:13 <LunaticHell> Sounds like a blast, so I'm knocking on wood.

20:13 <LunaticHell> Also I randomly found that I got some dating/school/anime/dungeon crawler game in my library.

20:14 <LunaticHell> I don't ever remember playing it, but I did in...2012

20:15 <LunaticHell> It has a literal demon boy named "Damien", sounds like bad omen to me.

20:16 <Ali> Heh

20:17 <Stormspark> spring ended up being almost 2 months late this year lol

20:22 * Ali flops over Stormspark

20:28 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: New Pony Life Expression Art Posted on Instagram  [ http://tinyurl.com/ya826fsr ]

20:28 <LunaticHell> Well better late than never.

20:28 <LunaticHell> Also hi Storm

20:30 <RichardMist> hoii Ali! *waves*

20:30 * Ali wavies

20:30 <RichardMist> hoii LunaticHell, nice to meet you! *waves*

20:31 <LunaticHell> oh hello Richard *waves* the pleasure is all mine.

20:34 <RichardMist> how are ya LunaticHell?

20:35 <LunaticHell> Bit tired but who isn't, these days?

20:35 <LunaticHell> How 'bout you?

20:35 <RichardMist> very well

20:35 * Stormspark oofs belatedly

20:36 <RichardMist> ow, hoii Stormspark! *waves*

20:36 <LunaticHell> At least anime this season is top notch, all things considered at least some silver lining.

20:37 <LunaticHell> Like that new one from the guys who did Konosuba.

20:37 * Lumindia_ gives Totinos Pizza Rolls to everyone

20:38 <RichardMist> hey Lumindia_ *waves*

20:38 <LunaticHell> Or the new one from the guys who did Kill la Kill, from the guys did Darling in the Franx and Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann.

20:39 <LunaticHell> I am surprised how short the title is, though.

20:39 <LunaticHell> "BNA", am I right?

20:39 <RichardMist> LunaticHell sorry, I don't watched that anime

20:40 <LunaticHell> Fair enough, different tastes for different mates.

20:40 <RichardMist> okie

20:41 <LunaticHell> Oh yeah I'm happy about Tower of God having its adaptation.

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20:56 <Cepheid> I am kind of annoyed by my dad's employer.  Lately, he has been having to cover calls over in Kingston, Ontario, because their nearest techs are either AWOL or sick.

20:56 <Cepheid> This is kind of annoying because the trip from Ottawa to Kingston is 2 hours.

21:01 <Cepheid> My dad doesn't mind though.  Likes driving.  I just dislike it because concern for wellbeing.  Plus right now, I am dependent on my parents for acquiring anything outside of the house, what with restrictions on what I can and cannot do, due to health.

21:08 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Drawfriend Stuff (Pony Art Gallery) #3347 [ http://tinyurl.com/y9vsb782 ]

21:19 <Cepheid> https://i.redd.it/6qr06vreeqz41.jpg

21:25 <Finwe> Mr RichardMist, Miss Ali, Messrs LunaticHell, Lumindia_, Cepheid and Divide|Adagio.

21:25 * Finwe doffs his hat.

21:25 <LunaticHell> oh hi Finwe

21:26 * Finwe casually hugs a LunaticHell.

21:26 <LunaticHell> I accidentally, today.

21:26 <Finwe> o3o

21:26 * LunaticHell hugs a Finwe

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21:26 * Ali curls into the Finwe

21:26 <LunaticHell> I tried to watch the new season of American Dad

21:26 <LunaticHell> but then I accidentally red bull up my nose.

21:27 <Finwe> À propos watching.

21:27 * Finwe watches the last episode of the first season of Absolutely Fabulous.

21:28 <LunaticHell> Sounds fab AF

21:29 <LunaticHell> Sometimes my bad puns come instantly o. o

21:29 <LunaticHell> Got to the point where people misstook me for a bot.

21:35 * Ali boops the LunaticHell

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21:35 <LunaticHell> *gasp*

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21:36 <LunaticHell> Oh hey, you have found the Stormspark rejoin button.

21:36 <LunaticHell> Apperently it was my nose, who knew?

21:41 * Lumindia_ pulls Ali into HUGS

21:41 <Lumindia_> O vO

21:41 * Ali squeaks at Lumindia_

21:41 * Lumindia_ squeaks back

21:42 <Lumindia_> [ What a meaningful conversation ]

21:44 <LunaticHell> Welp, better than what I had all day.

21:44 <LunaticHell> Someone actually argued that most inventions are done during war time, thus we need another war.

21:45 <RichardMist> hey Mr. Finwe, nice to see you here again*nods*

21:46 <LunaticHell> Another one argued impossible things are possible, also that definitions are boxes and creative people something something please end my mistery. D:

21:47 <LunaticHell> Also my PC crashed twice while trying to be part of a discord face chat, so that kinda sucked.

21:47 <RichardMist> LunaticHell I don't know, but I don't think that this is bad :>

21:48 <LunaticHell> It was about the concept of impossible things existing, they argued that you cannot imagine impossible things, so all the things you can imagine are possible to be done.

21:49 <LunaticHell> You can not walk on the sun, but you can imagine it. I'm very super certain that we are not going to invent anything to change that state of fact.

21:51 <LunaticHell> There is an entire mood in the ever unimpressed look on Secre Swallowtail's face and that is me right now.

21:53 <LunaticHell> She's like the word "meh" in a person in a bird.

21:53 <LunaticHell> Not just the word, but the whole expression. So yeah, that is that. o. o

21:56 <RichardMist> LunaticHell this is like some philosophy

21:57 <RichardMist> but human don't know how can he hrow himself mentally

21:57 <RichardMist> we are too far away from that

21:57 <LunaticHell> We can say, with fair certainty, that some things cannot be done.

21:58 <LunaticHell> Laws of physics apply.

21:58 <RichardMist> you're saying too basic things

21:58 <LunaticHell> Well, reality is rather basic.

21:58 <RichardMist> Laws of physics are already broken

21:59 <LunaticHell> Nah, you're thinking of our understand of the laws of physics.

21:59 <LunaticHell> You don't undo gravity, you just get to know more about it.

21:59 <RichardMist> there's soo much things in this world that can't be understandable with physics laws

22:00 <RichardMist> Laws created humans

22:00 <RichardMist> humans are not ready to know everything

22:01 <LunaticHell> I'm talking from a practical point

22:01 <RichardMist> You must learn yourself by that point

22:02 <RichardMist> a person is not limited in a certain development

22:02 <LunaticHell> Now, all I am saying is that there is such thing as "impossible".

22:02 <RichardMist> yes

22:03 <LunaticHell> Welp, it seems like the clock has stuck midnight, again.

22:03 <LunaticHell> I shall be taking my leave, then.

22:04 <RichardMist> okay

22:04 <RichardMist> goodnight then

22:04 <RichardMist> there are a few people that learned self-knowledge of the spirit

22:04 <Cepheid> https://i.redd.it/fp2m67wt3pz41.png

22:04 <RichardMist> and they know more

22:05 <LunaticHell> K, night

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22:05 <RichardMist> Cepheid this is the point of determination or accuracy

22:07 <RichardMist> again this is basic things that normal people can't understand unless of course you look by other side of that meaning

22:07 <RichardMist> okay, I guess, let's revert to normal thinking

22:14 <Cepheid> The correct term depends on the field of science.  XKCD, the comic that image is from, is primarily mathematics and computer science.  In those fields, the term used is 'precision' when speaking of number of decimal places.

22:15 <Cepheid> Especially in computer science, due to the way floating point numbers work.

22:17 * Cepheid raises an eyebrow. Reads article.

22:19 <Cepheid> Apparently, Microsoft, in working on WSL2, has ported DirectX 12 to linux.

22:22 <RichardMist> Cepheid wow, finally...

22:22 <Cepheid> Still closed-source, and intended to be used exclusively with WSL2 though.

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22:23 <Cepheid> But given Microsoft's behaviour as of late, I would not be shocked if in the future, DirectX became open source.

22:24 <RichardMist> Cepheid: what about optimization?

22:24 <Cepheid> Wishful thinking on my part, but it is a good step towards such a thing.

22:25 <Cepheid> Hmm?  What do you mean?

22:28 <RichardMist> Cepheid the first thing for porting is overall optimization of mail functions

22:29 <RichardMist> Cepheid his code must be optimized and minimized to work smooth on most machines

22:30 <Cepheid> Right now, the subsystem is functional.  Not sure how performance is doing these days, but the biggest issue was disk performance.  I imagine that is being focused on.

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22:31 <RichardMist> Cepheid try to compare between linux and windows dorectX if linux will be slower that, that's optmization failure

22:33 <RichardMist> but on linux must be faster because that os is lighter that windows

22:33 <Cepheid> Currently it likely is to be slower.  By how much, I don't know.  It relies on the Windows Hypervisor to gain access to the GPU.  So a level of indirection exists.

22:34 <Cepheid> It will still be faster than other solutions that don't involve multi-booting though.

22:35 <RichardMist> Cepheid that means it's not ready

22:35 <RichardMist> Cepheid it's too "raw"

22:36 <RichardMist> heh hypervisor... that's bad

22:44 <Cepheid> Mmhmm.  But again, still better than the alternatives that don't involve multi-booting.  The hypervisor is also being used to expose the host GPUs for OpenGL and OpenCL under WSL2.

22:45 <Cepheid> Presumably Vulkan will also be supported.  Certainly makes cross-platform development a tad easier.  Especially since they also got GUI applications working too.

22:46 <RichardMist> Cepheid yeah, but for gaming is still windows until DirectX became optimized

22:47 <RichardMist> for example clear windows without that telemetry and that windows applications will be the fastest

22:48 <Cepheid> Debatable.  DirectX certainly functions better than OpenGL on Windows, but there is a lot of evidence to suggest that Vulkan is comparable to DirectX 12 in terms of performance.

22:49 <RichardMist> yeah and now waiting

22:49 <RichardMist> and about OpenGL again saying too basic things

22:49 <Cepheid> But that is likely because Vulkan and DirectX 12 are similar in nature.  To the point that DX11 and DX12 are being reimplemented under Linux using Vulkan.

22:50 <RichardMist> soo, let's wait until DirectX on linux became stable

22:51 <Cepheid> Assuming it ever leaves Windows Subsystem for Linux 2

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22:52 <RichardMist> hoiii PinkieShy! *waves*

22:52 <RichardMist> Cepheid yep

22:52 * Cepheid investigates the information provided by Microsoft.

22:54 <RichardMist> Cepheid soo let's wait for linux spying by microsoft™

22:57 <Cepheid> Given they can just look at the Linux Kernel source code, that isn't hard.  And there are numerous ways to investigate what is happening in another OS, including virtualized ones besides blatant spying.

22:59 <RichardMist> Cepheid yep

22:59 <RichardMist> Cepheid maybe they will do non-nvestigateable spying >:)

23:00 <Cepheid> I am not gonna debate whether or not Microsoft is doing all this to spy or do other things.  I am for interoperability.  Whether people like it or not.

23:01 <RichardMist> spying is second name of microsoft™

23:02 <Cepheid> Anyways, it looks like the open source kernel driver that Microsoft developed basically allows interfacing with WDDM GPU drivers.  Allows for driver developers to more easily port their drivers to Linux.

23:03 <RichardMist> Cepheid but question how it does porting? Maybe it does something more with porting hehe

23:04 <Cepheid> Currently, it interfaces directly with host system GPUs through paravirtualization.

23:04 <RichardMist> Cepheid may I track everything while porting?

23:04 <Cepheid> The Linux kernel driver is open source.  People can see what it does.

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23:08 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Community Soapbox - Sunset Picking Worlds, Lots of Cozy Glow, and Rainbow with Wonderbolts  [ http://tinyurl.com/y7j6pao5 ]

23:08 <Cepheid> Looks like they plan to support Vulkan.  Due to it's design though it will take time.  Meanwhile, OpenGL and OpenCL are implemented over DX12.

23:09 <Cepheid> Looks like CUDA will also be supported.

23:11 <RichardMist> nice, soon it will be gaming linux with microsoft™

23:13 <PinkieShy> >_> had to order a more expensive grill as we needed one >_>

23:14 <PinkieShy> Almost all the other grills (George foreman) is out of stock completely and the one i had ordered the Merchant cancelled it as they might not get in back in stock for many months.. :/

23:14 <PinkieShy> I guess everybody is buying up indoor grills to help with cooking being home more often and such.

23:15 <PinkieShy> Either way.. I don't care to much as long as the new one is better which it should be as the grill plates are removable and has temperature control

23:15 <PinkieShy> err I should say Grill plate being its only one like a Traditional style grill lol

23:15 <Cepheid> With respect to the security stuff, if you're that concerned, don't use Windows.  What *I* am concerned about, is as stated, interop.  You want people to switch away from Microsoft?  Then improve interop.  Convince Microsoft to open-source more stuff.  Make it easier to use Windows software on other platforms and vice versa.

23:16 <Cepheid> Just...  Don't use Apple.  The more I hear about their practices, the more I trust Microsoft with security.

23:17 <RichardMist> Cepheid I don't care about windows because I am OP user and I can do whatever I want with my windows

23:17 <Cepheid> I mean for crissakes, why would you disable security on an entire hardware subsystem when any non-Apple OS is used on their hardware?

23:17 <RichardMist> PinkieShy why expensive grill >.>?

23:19 <RichardMist> Cepheid their "security" does not help me with their "security" my pc becames 30% slower

23:19 <Cepheid> I mean, I know why Apple does it.  Rhetorical question.

23:19 <RichardMist> Cepheid and I'm not basic user and never caught any viruses

23:19 <Cepheid> This particular problem isn't related to Spectre, Foreshadow and the like.

23:20 <RichardMist> Cepheid because Apple makes money on it

23:20 <Cepheid> Basically, Thunderspy allows spoofing of authorized Thunderbolt devices to gain access to system RAM through the PCIe passthrough.

23:20 <RichardMist> Cepheid It's soo simple more users more money

23:20 <Cepheid> There are mitigations one can do to prevent it.

23:21 <RichardMist> Cepheid "gain access to system RAM through" hahaha

23:21 <Cepheid> But on Apple, running Windows, Linux or BSD or any other OS other than Mac OS, there isn't anything that can be done.

23:21 <Cepheid> Apple's Boot Camp software disables all security functionality of Thunderbolt by default.

23:21 <RichardMist> Cepheid and that's why pirates exist

23:22 <Cepheid> You misunderstand.

23:22 <RichardMist> Cepheid yep

23:22 <Cepheid> There is absolutely no way to enable or fix the security problem.  Apple acknowledges this.  Their suggestion?  Use macOS.

23:22 <RichardMist> hah

23:23 <RichardMist> Cepheid that's very "clever" thing

23:25 <Cepheid> Meanwhile, Intel is aware of the problem but is dragging their feet on it worse than Spectre, Foreshadow, and L1TF.

23:27 <RichardMist> heh, new processors new vulnerabilities!

23:28 <RichardMist> Cepheid and what did they do?

23:28 <PinkieShy> RichardMist needing a big one instead of just those tiny 2 serving ones...

23:28 <PinkieShy> Like seriously those 2 serving ones are only enough for like 1 regular size burger patty

23:29 <PinkieShy> The one we usually get the big 10 serving one is enough to bit a bunch on there

23:29 <Cepheid> Last I read, ignored the researchers request to disclose to a number of clients.  And are basically refusing to do any fixes for existing hardware.  Let's see if that changed.

23:29 <RichardMist> PinkieShy the main thing is quality

23:30 <PinkieShy> Its hamilton beach brand.. Which i trust

23:30 <PinkieShy> Many years using their brands is good quality.

23:31 <RichardMist> PinkieShy and it never failed you?

23:31 <PinkieShy> After many years yea lol

23:32 <RichardMist> PinkieShy nice

23:32 <PinkieShy> We have had the grill with the paint bubbling up for 10 years now..

23:32 <PinkieShy> It just started to bubble up so.. yea..

23:32 <RichardMist> okie

23:33 <RichardMist> Cepheid let's wait and see hehe

23:33 <Cepheid> Looks like no change from Intel and Apple.

23:34 <RichardMist> hahah

23:34 <RichardMist> lazy cows

23:34 <RichardMist> almost always they do something that profitably for them

23:37 <RichardMist> Cepheid May I ask your computer specs?

23:39 <Cepheid> Ryzen 7 2700X, ASUS X470-PRO, 32GB RAM, 500GB NVMe SSD, 4TB 7200RPM drive, nVidia GeForce RTX 2060.  Gets the job done.

23:41 <RichardMist> wow

23:41 <RichardMist> very nice

23:41 <RichardMist> Cepheid what's memory clock?

23:42 <Cepheid> Would prefer an AMD GPU at this time.  nVidia has...  Started having problems with Linux.

23:42 <Cepheid> DDR4-3000MHz.  I don't recall the timings off hand.

23:43 <RichardMist> why not 4000MHz?

23:43 <Cepheid> Cost.

23:43 <RichardMist> ok

23:43 <RichardMist> about Nvidia problems, maybe I may help

23:43 <RichardMist> ?

23:43 <Cepheid> I don't have a job.  I used my tax refunds over the last few years for the above system.

23:44 <Cepheid> So my finances are a tad limited.

23:44 <RichardMist> but it's free

23:44 <Cepheid> As for nVidia issues, it's mostly just with regards to Wayland(Not much that can be done about that) or KDE's Plasma.

23:45 <Cepheid> Nothing too serious and worth looking into extensively.

23:45 <RichardMist> Cepheid have you tried Wine(emulator)

23:45 <RichardMist> ?

23:45 <Cepheid> I have.  Doesn't work for everything I use my PC for.

23:46 <Cepheid> Though I admit it is improving these days with the likes of DXVK.

23:47 <RichardMist> yep with DXVK faster

23:47 <Cepheid> I'll be right back.  Bedtime preparation.

23:47 <RichardMist> But I recommend Vulkan implementation to DirectX

23:47 <RichardMist> going sleep?

23:49 <Cepheid> Not yet, but soon.

23:50 <RichardMist> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYmSoEhJL18 yeah as I see on that video, DX on Linux is not ready yet

23:50 <RichardMist> up to 20 FPS drop

23:50 <RichardMist> that's sad

23:51 <Cepheid> It's a start.

23:52 <RichardMist> wow up to 40

23:52 <RichardMist> oh, better use "purified" windows 10

23:52 <Cepheid> Ah, yeah.  DXVK is...  It helps, but it isn't perfect.

23:53 <RichardMist> nope, DXVK is not direct thing

23:54 <Cepheid> Interestingly though, Khronos is implementing extensions to Vulkan meant to help DXVK's development.

23:54 <RichardMist> It's useless until they fix

23:55 <RichardMist> okay

23:55 <PinkieShy> Anybody here know off top of their head.. If all grilling methods reduce fat like a george foreman grill does?

23:55 <Cepheid> That said, GTAV is not really the best game for benchmarking.  I find it is a finicky game.

23:56 <PinkieShy> GTA V is a picky game lol

23:56 <Cepheid> Also note, that video is from 2018, Richard.  It has since improved considerably.

23:57 <RichardMist> Cepheid I know

23:57 <RichardMist> Let me see from 2020

23:59 <Cepheid> https://youtu.be/1D82_XEwvpA

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