00:01 <Cepheid> Yeah, I didn't expect it either, but apparently the two shed enough to leave my room covered in clumps of hair within two days.
00:02 <Cepheid> "Oh you know, just making murder plans with my cat."
00:06 <Cepheid> I love Kif.
00:08 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Penny Wrights: Equestria Girls "Music to My Ears" Follow Up [ http://tinyurl.com/yd39o6bu ]
00:09 <Schism|Adagio> Yeah. XD
00:13 <Schism|Adagio> Cepheid: While Billy West did some voices in Disenchantment -- of course he did -- he mostly did Sorcerio, Mertz, and the Jester.
00:14 <Schism|Adagio> And then there's Maurice LaMarche, who did Odval and Big Jo.
00:15 <RichardMist> Bye everyponies! *waves*
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00:16 <Schism|Adagio> Oh, and the Washmaster.
00:19 <Ali> Schism|Adagio, I read that as Billy Mays X.x
00:20 <Schism|Adagio> No, no. I'm sure Billy West has voiced Billy Mays before, but no.
00:30 <PinkieShy> Landlord not installing the toilet yet has me so mad..
00:31 <PinkieShy> I'm at the point I'll call him and just remind him and if nothing after that.. I'll just go behind his back and get a plumber and tell him we got a plumber to do it
00:36 <PinkieShy> at least a plumber will do it fast.
00:36 <PinkieShy> Instead of waiting another year like this landlord might do..
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00:40 <Cepheid> Sometimes, I wonder if what just happened was due to a micro-seizure.
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00:41 <Schism|Adagio> Cepheid: Sometimes I feel the same. Or worry about bodily dysfunctions like my foot falling asleep.
00:41 <Cepheid> Every now and then, very rarely, like, maybe once or twice a week, I'll be doing something, then all of a sudden I lose control of my eyes and they just sorta look in random directions rapidly for about a second or two. Then they return back to what I was focusing on.
00:43 <Cepheid> I feel like maybe this should be more distressing.
00:45 <Schism|Adagio> I'm not entirely certain. The same thing seems to happen to me. Like suddenly I'll lose my train of thought, only bodily. I don't stumble or anything, it's just... a moment of disassociation.
00:46 <Schism|Adagio> It may be due to generalized ADD.
00:46 <Schism|Adagio> Probably a dozen possible reasons, admittedly.
00:46 <Cepheid> Hey Agnes.
00:47 <Cepheid> Also, this isn't a train of thought thing.
00:47 <Cepheid> It's just my eyes.
00:47 <Cepheid> And only my eyes.
00:47 <Cepheid> They just sort of suddenly start twitching and spasming and looking every which direction for a second or two. I have no control over them during this.
00:47 <Schism|Adagio> Eh. Brains and wanting to secure the area and something. I don't think it's a stroke or anyhting.
00:47 <Cepheid> Doesn't hurt, but it looks weird.
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00:47 <Schism|Adagio> anything*
00:48 <Schism|Adagio> Cepheid: Also, you're in for a treat with that episode.
00:48 <Schism|Adagio> One of the best in season 1.
00:48 <Cepheid> Oh my gods, really, Luci? The tail?
00:48 <Schism|Adagio> I forget exactly what he did.
00:49 <Schism|Adagio> Unless it's just setting his tail on fire.
00:52 <Schism|Adagio> Cepheid: If it comes to Luci setting his tail aflame, then bear in mind that A. he's a demon, and B. he was chosen to be Bean's personal demon after Hell's social network figured they'd be a good match.
00:55 <ADragonDreaming> btw: https://www.cwseed.com/shows/whose-line-is-it-anyway/
00:55 <ADragonDreaming> all seasons
00:55 <Schism|Adagio> Ooh.
00:55 <Schism|Adagio> Adra, Disenchantment is delightful, too, so if you have Netflix..
00:56 <Cepheid> Schism|Adagio: Tail hanging out from the nun outfit.
00:58 <Schism|Adagio> Oh, yeah, that. :S
00:58 <Schism|Adagio> I think he'd set it aflame beore tho.
00:58 <Schism|Adagio> before*
01:04 <Schism|Adagio> Adra: Alas, we're in Canada.
01:04 <ADragonDreaming> wait, it's blocked there?
01:05 <Schism|Adagio> Yup.
01:05 <Schism|Adagio> Oh well, there are always other ways.
01:06 <Cepheid> You have no idea how much content in the US is blocked here.
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01:13 <Cepheid> "Just look me in the eye" *The souls of the damned appear*
01:16 <Schism|Adagio> Hee.
01:18 <Cepheid> "Where this demented squirrel stole his shoe."
01:18 <Cepheid> The worst part is, Luci is pretty much the most mentally stable of the bunch. I'm not sure how or why.
01:18 <Schism|Adagio> You're almost correct.
01:18 <Schism|Adagio> The most mentally stable person in the whole cast is Oona.
01:19 <Schism|Adagio> Actually, though... there's Bunty, and her husband. Those folks are pretty stable too.
01:20 <Schism|Adagio> Luci has the advantage of being in a permanent state of not giving a crap.
01:22 <Schism|Adagio> Bean is kinda getting there, but she's also in the midst of a state of self-actualization known to many as 'being a freaking teenager'.
01:24 <Schism|Adagio> And Elfo just...
01:24 <Schism|Adagio> He's Elfo.
01:27 <Cepheid> Yep.
01:27 <Cepheid> I kinda wish I had the mind of Luci. Seems better than what I got.
01:28 <Schism|Adagio> Did I not tell you like a week ago that he reminded me of you?
01:29 <Schism|Adagio> Mostly the snark, admittedly.
01:29 <Cepheid> Heh.
01:30 <Schism|Adagio> Admittedly, a demon-cat-thing with one eye isn't the world's greatest character reference, but still.
01:30 <Schism|Adagio> You could paint that on your resume with the blood of an orphaned child and get any job in the world.
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01:37 <Schism|Adagio> Heh. Too much? :S
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01:40 <Cepheid> Hmm? Nah. Sorry, wandered off for a moment.
01:41 <Schism|Adagio> No worries. Bleh. I sold the godsforsaken light elemental spear.
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01:55 <Golden> Nani
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02:05 <Schism|Adagio> Well, dammit.
02:08 <Cepheid> Hmm?
02:08 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Nightly Discussion #2171 [ http://tinyurl.com/yb8g7bbw ]
02:08 * Cepheid takes vyvanse before bed as an experiment.
02:09 <Schism|Adagio> Okay, I just remembered why I hate htis game.
02:09 <Schism|Adagio> this game, too.
02:09 <Schism|Adagio> It requires that you actually either have a huge amount of magic stored up, or that you grind to three levels above where you can be expected to.
02:10 <Cepheid> √` No where to run from all of this havoc... No where to hide from all of this madness, madness, madness. √`
02:10 <Schism|Adagio> If you're not level 24 before fighting Bloody Mary, Queen of Scots, then you're going to deal scratch damage with even a light-element weapon.
02:11 <Cepheid> Yeah, I remember that series was never known for it's balance. Illusion of Gaia vampires?
02:11 <Schism|Adagio> Also, she demands that you deal with two minigames before beating her. First, one where you have to hit the doll behind you when they stop, and one which is a Red Robin minigame.
02:12 <Schism|Adagio> Eh, kinda. A real boss which is only readily damaged via either overleveling or magic.
02:12 <Cepheid> Red Robin?
02:12 <Schism|Adagio> Red light, green light.
02:13 <Cepheid> Ah.
02:13 <Schism|Adagio> This is also a series which introduces one concept or another -- like blocking -- and NEVER REFERENCES IT AGAIN.
02:14 <Cepheid> ... Same question then. I am not familiar with playground games. Spent my childhood in school recess fighting or keeping my distance.
02:14 <Schism|Adagio> Eh. Kids go on and try to reach the objective. Red light means stop, green light means go. If you don't stop in time, you're out.
02:14 <Cepheid> Ah.
02:16 <Schism|Adagio> The other one, where you have to poke the enemy behind you, is also in reference to a playground game.
02:17 <Schism|Adagio> It doesn't translate well.
02:17 <ADragonDreaming> Red Rover, Red Rover
02:17 <ADragonDreaming> Send Schism over so we can clothesline him into the ground.
02:18 <Cepheid> !link https://youtu.be/auI7WMqti_E Another song that, for reasons unknown, sends my brain engine into an insane frenzy. It is the sections between the vocal sections. Where it goes quiet, the does a sort of... Chorus?
02:18 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Ruelle - Madness | Control Soundtrack
02:18 <Schism|Adagio> Adra, please tell me you've played this game before so that we can at least commisserate about Bloody FREAKING Mary.
02:18 <ADragonDreaming> I am not familiar with Red Robin.
02:19 <Schism|Adagio> No, I mean Terranigma.
02:19 <ADragonDreaming> Ohhh.
02:19 <ADragonDreaming> Yes, I have played that game.
02:19 <Schism|Adagio> Sylvain Castle.
02:19 <ADragonDreaming> I have finished it, even.
02:19 <Schism|Adagio> That one boss which can only be beaten with magic, the one time when magic is REQUIRED.
02:20 <ADragonDreaming> I remember the "poke the right one out of six" game
02:20 <ADragonDreaming> I think I had to look up the solution.
02:20 <Schism|Adagio> They did that one a few times...
02:20 <Schism|Adagio> This was just one of many bosses which was.. yeah.
02:21 <Schism|Adagio> Cepheid: Are you certain this isn't part of Ghost in the Shell?
02:22 <Cepheid> Certain. It is the official theme for Control, more or less.
02:22 <Schism|Adagio> Oh, that's not what I mean. It sounds very, very Yoko Kanno in the very best of ways.
02:22 <Cepheid> Heh.
02:23 <Cepheid> I'm less about the vocals and more about the sound here. Instills a sense of... Something.
02:24 <Schism|Adagio> "These secrets and lies" is pretty evocative, tho.
02:25 <Cepheid> All I can say is it plays with my emotion of fear, dread. Rage, as well. Also an emotion or sense I cannot identify.
02:25 <Schism|Adagio> Purpose.
02:26 <Schism|Adagio> I guess, of course.
02:27 <Schism|Adagio> I'd want to create something to evoke this.
02:27 <Cepheid> Possibly. The sound pulls up images and thoughts from a long time ago. Ironically, ones focused around my "purpose" to existing.
02:28 <Schism|Adagio> Are you familiar with Inner Universe, from the GitS soundtrack?
02:28 <Cepheid> There was a time when I legitimately(and to some degree, still do) believed I existed solely to act as a vessel. A cage, a cell, housing something that should not be released.
02:28 <Cepheid> I am not. Never watched GitS.
02:29 * Schism|Adagio eyebrows at Cepheid. "Congratulations. You're just like a lot of the rest of us."
02:29 <Schism|Adagio> Here's 'Inner Universe' by Origa. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGPBfbeAh5w
02:29 <Cepheid> Not a human soul.
02:32 <Cepheid> In any case, assuming I am right about my existential purpose, then I have failed. Though I still contain the thing, the cell has been fractured. Damaged. It leaks out.
02:33 <Schism|Adagio> Eh. If we're getting into existentialism, then it was going to break out anyway.
02:34 <Schism|Adagio> I'm sorry, I don't mean to be dismissive. I'm ... about to get to sleep, so I should probably shut up.
02:35 <Cepheid> Hilariously, if I am not insane, and it is leaking out, it is at a steady rate based on observation. You know what happens at a fairly regular basis, with a timer on it that can be calculated to an accuracy of +/-1 day?
02:36 <Schism|Adagio> To be honest, if we're talking about your purpose as a metaphorical jar, what the hell do you have to be sorry about? You've been patching that up at every instance you can.
02:36 <Cepheid> I'm not trying to be sorry. I am just trying to understand things.
02:37 <Schism|Adagio> Hmm. The breakdown of a hypothetical vessel could certainly be measured in some manner or another.
02:38 <Schism|Adagio> There's also the question of what sort of curve we're looking at, and what observable effects might be determined.
02:39 <Schism|Adagio> And whether psychological effects could indeed be quantified.
02:39 <Cepheid> All I know, is that what it is, it is not malicious. It is more akin to a generator.
02:39 <Schism|Adagio> There is also a problem, Cepheid.
02:39 <Schism|Adagio> Well. Another one.
02:40 <Cepheid> Endlessly running. Running hot. Venting heat.
02:40 <Schism|Adagio> If you feel that this hypothetical source of energy is detrimental to your continued existence, you may be subconsciously attempting to repair it, resulting in a fluctuation.
02:41 <Schism|Adagio> And, well, some issues.
02:42 <Cepheid> I don't think it is detrimental. Only when it builds up. Because I try to hold it in.
02:43 <Schism|Adagio> Well, here's hoping... of course we speak of this in a metaphysical sense rather than a purely emotional one, but yeah.
02:44 <Schism|Adagio> Well, I'm afraid that I'll have to get some sleep shortly -- with hopes that tomorrow I'll have an excellent build for my box.
02:44 <Cepheid> In other unrelated topics, I want to integrate a heatsink into my body.
02:45 <Schism|Adagio> I've heard very good things about buckministerfullerine.
02:48 <Cepheid> I am friggen boiling. Feels like my bones are burning. Kinda like pressing your finger up against metal that's been out in the sun. Hot enough that your brain tells you to pull away, but cool enough that you could keep touching it without injury anyway.
02:48 <Schism|Adagio> I'd normally suggest that you isolate yourself with a suit of aerogel, but that is a Bad Idea(tm).
02:49 <Schism|Adagio> Gah. Speaking of heat, I need to sleep so that I can get down there tomorrow morning.
02:49 <Cepheid> G'night then. Sleep well.
02:50 <Schism|Adagio> Thanks. Afore I do, though...
02:51 * Schism|Adagio listens to Tsukuyomi's theme again.
02:51 <Schism|Adagio> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMv9uiQsXvg
02:51 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about FFXIV OST Tsukuyomi Theme ( Final Phase )
02:53 <Cepheid> That was a fun battle, Tsuku. I went in blind, the idiot I am.
02:53 <Schism|Adagio> That's okay, I do the same thing whenever there's a new release.
02:54 <Schism|Adagio> It was nice that she got revenge on that [yay] of a brother, even if the rest of that was the worst thing ever.
02:55 <Schism|Adagio> It takes a very, very strong storyteller to make one feel sorry for a villain like that.
02:55 <Cepheid> Yep.
02:55 <Schism|Adagio> Tsuku's theme is definitely awesome, at least.
02:59 <Schism|Adagio> Hm. Well, a Ryzen might be a good choice for the next couple years, but I don't think I'm going to be going after the latest and greatest.
02:59 <Schism|Adagio> Google, why are you telling me prices in rubles.
03:03 <ADragonDreaming> because it confused them with rupees
03:03 <Schism|Adagio> While a Ryzen 7 seems beneficial.. I don't think I've ever encountered a situation where every single core is in full use.
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03:04 <Schism|Adagio> I mean, obviously this dual-core laptop on which I'm using IRC is a potato, but... would it even be worthwhile to have 8 rather than 6, considering what I play?
03:06 <Schism|Adagio> A Ryzen 5, plus a decent chunk of 16GB of RAM, and a nice motherboard to support it, sounds like the best bet.
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03:06 <Cepheid> Six is generally a good number these days.
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03:07 <Cepheid> It ius as you say, very few games make full use of multi-core setups, due to the difficulty in threading.
03:07 <Schism|Adagio> Yeah, and I can bump it up as time allows. Far too few games do multithreading anyway, so it's kind of a happy middle.
03:08 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: My Little Pony Speedpaint Compilation #137 [ http://tinyurl.com/ychfyok7 ]
03:08 <Schism|Adagio> Definitely need new RAM with a new MB, though.
03:09 <Cepheid> Yeah. Systems have switched to DDR4 now.
03:09 <Schism|Adagio> Yerp.
03:09 <Schism|Adagio> Thankfully, legacy hard drives are still supported. Bleh.
03:10 <Schism|Adagio> Going to have to transfer everything over soon, but for now I can deal. Next paycheque.
03:10 <Cepheid> From what I've heard, Ryzen benefits from higher RAM speeds.
03:10 <Schism|Adagio> That does help.
03:10 <Cepheid> Like, more than Intel does.
03:11 <Cepheid> If you want to be certain?
03:11 <Schism|Adagio> Colour me surprised.
03:11 <Schism|Adagio> Yah?
03:11 <Cepheid> Check the qualified vendors list for the motherboard.
03:12 <Cepheid> It'll contain a list of RAM modules guaranteed to work.
03:12 <Schism|Adagio> Okay, again, that's really, really tricky, because I'm going to be heading to a retail store.
03:12 <Cepheid> Right.
03:13 <Schism|Adagio> I'm going to trust in the folks over at CC for this one. Of course, I'll still have to get one which supports my video card for now...
03:13 <Schism|Adagio> Not a huge deal, that.
03:14 <Cepheid> That isn't going to be an issue
03:14 <Cepheid> PCIe is still the current connector. As a result you're guaranteed a 16x slot.
03:15 <Schism|Adagio> Excellent. Not that my video card is likely to use all that, but it means that when I replace it, that'll do just fine.
03:15 <Cepheid> No video card uses all that bandwidth. Not even under full compute loads, I think.
03:16 <Schism|Adagio> There are probably some variants which do, but let's not get into the ridiculosity of bitcoin et al.
03:16 <Schism|Adagio> Though GPUs which process such algorithms are an interesting choice.
03:16 <Schism|Adagio> And topic.
03:17 <Schism|Adagio> Ah well. Sorry, I'm tired.
03:17 <Cepheid> Not even the highest end GPU uses all that bandwidth. Most I've ever seen used even on my system is 20%
03:17 <Cepheid> Most of the time it's usually 1-2%
03:17 <Schism|Adagio> Ah well, sane enough.
03:17 * Schism|Adagio looks at Corsair memory, then sighs. "Yup."
03:18 <Schism|Adagio> Want to shake your head, Cepheid?
03:18 <ADragonDreaming> bout to download some more ram?
03:18 <Cepheid> Not sure why you want me to shake my head. I use Corsair.
03:18 <Schism|Adagio> Bout to look at RAM. And here you go:
03:18 <Schism|Adagio> https://www.amazon.ca/Corsair-Vengeance-PC4-19200-Memory-CMK32GX4M4C3000C15R/dp/B01DM29FEY/ref=pd_sbs_147_3/146-1283251-5581651?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B01DM29FEY&pd_rd_r=c0a61a53-4c04-4ae8-918e-86ecaae7ce64&pd_rd_w=ex9Ui&pd_rd_wg=ACGvy&pf_rd_p=0ec96c83-1800-4e36-8486-44f5573a2612&pf_rd_r=0F76HMF48HJA2P4K1AVQ&psc=1&refRID=0F76HMF48HJA2P4K1AVQ
03:19 <Schism|Adagio> Er, sorry about the overlong link.
03:19 <Schism|Adagio> My joking aside, $223 for 32GB is fairly decent. Bleh.
03:19 <Cepheid> 223? Not bad for 32GB.
03:19 <Schism|Adagio> Heh.
03:20 <Cepheid> I paid $450. More because it was a newer tech at the time.
03:20 <Schism|Adagio> No, that is actually decent. I saw the price point and plotzed; sorry about that.
03:20 <Schism|Adagio> I just want 16GB. So.
03:21 <Cepheid> Will you ever need 32? Don't know. But it is nice for multitasking at least.
03:21 <Cepheid> 16 is more reasonable.
03:22 <Schism|Adagio> Yeah. I can also do an ASUS motherboard which will work for these purposes for $150.
03:22 <Schism|Adagio> So all this should fit within my budget and then I can futz around with a new graphics card in a few weeks.
03:23 <Schism|Adagio> It's not going to be the greatest thing ever, but it'll work.
03:23 <Cepheid> Just a heads up, I'm not sure about later boards, but ASUS may clock the RAM at the wrong speeds. Mine does by default. Make sure the UEFI is set up to use D.O.C.P. or X.M.P. profiles.
03:24 <Cepheid> The board defaults to JEDEC settings.
03:24 <Cepheid> Rather than the DOCP/XMP profiles.
03:24 <Cepheid> The latter being what the advertised settings for the RAM is.
03:24 <Schism|Adagio> Thanks for the heads-up. I'll need to read everything about the mobo once I actually install the damned thing.
03:25 <Schism|Adagio> I will also have to make sure that everything works with my PSU, but voltage requirements have been reduced of late.
03:26 <Cepheid> What's the wattage?
03:26 <Schism|Adagio> Right, wattage, not voltage. Hm. One moment please.
03:29 <Schism|Adagio> ...
03:29 <Schism|Adagio> Okay, forget my concerns. This one is good.
03:29 <Schism|Adagio> It's an 850-watt PSU.
03:30 <Cepheid> Oh, yeah. That will do. I use a 650 for my system.
03:30 <Cepheid> You usually only want near-1000 or more for when you are using multiple video cards.
03:30 <Schism|Adagio> Yeah. One of these damned things. I'd forgotten that I built this thing strong again... https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=220-g2-0850-xr
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03:31 <Schism|Adagio> Well, at least I know I won't have to replace THAT part.
03:31 <Cepheid> This will likely cause my system to go into a beep code... But from what I'm reading.. It should work.
03:32 <Schism|Adagio> Not the precise part -- but close.
03:32 <Schism|Adagio> Anyway, that should be perfectly all right. Sheesh.
03:32 <Cepheid> Give this a minute to see if anything changes. If nothing, I'll clear the UEFI via the standard external method.
03:33 <Schism|Adagio> Wait, you're doing what again?
03:34 <Cepheid> There's an option for RAM, called Gear Down mode. It affects the performance of the RAM ever so slightly. But it keeps me from getting the timings right for what was advertised.
03:35 <Schism|Adagio> I'm not entirely sure whether this is a good thing, or a bad.
03:36 <Schism|Adagio> It sounds like while it lets multiple timings of RAM work in sync, it also results in a downgrade from the advertised ticks.
03:36 <Schism|Adagio> But I'm not totally sure what you mean by that.
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03:36 <Schism|Adagio> Oh. That's... strange.
03:37 <Cepheid> Essentially it is a feature of DDR4 that allows for certain situations in issuing memory instructions.
03:38 <Schism|Adagio> So not something you'd normally use. Hmm.
03:39 <Cepheid> Apparently it is for stability. That said, as stated it prevents getting the RAM to run at it's rated settings not sure why.
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03:40 * Schism|Adagio looks outside, where there are explosions and car noises. "Possibly for stability."
03:41 <Schism|Adagio> (This is not a lie. That is what I have just heard.)
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03:42 <Schism|Adagio> Adra: I still hate the fact that Best Buy sells nothing but RAM. Probably cheap RAM, too.
03:42 <Cepheid> Hum. Let's try this...
03:43 <Cepheid> Knowing my luck the problem is probably inadequate cooling.
03:45 <Schism|Adagio> Based on my previous situation, with the removal of the CPU resulting in ded boxy, should I go for a CPU/mobo combo which is preassigned by the salesfolks? I'm fairly certain that they'll be alright.
03:46 <Schism|Adagio> CC is at least reasonable as far as such thing are concerned.
03:46 <Schism|Adagio> things*
03:46 <Cepheid> Might not be a bad idea if you aren't into the nitty gritty. My advice though? Bring a phone with wireless, and talk to us about what they are suggesting.
03:47 <Cepheid> I'd need to know when you plan to go out of course, to wake up in time. o3o
03:48 <Schism|Adagio> I'm typically decent when it comes to the absurdist number-crunching game. I can get an idea. Also, it'll be somewhere along the lines of 11 EST.
03:48 <Schism|Adagio> And I know full well that it's absurdist as sin.
03:49 <Schism|Adagio> You know the line. "How bull@#( is it?" "It is totally bull($*#.
03:50 <Schism|Adagio> More like 10 EST...
03:50 <Cepheid> I'll be up by then, more or less. I got an appointment at 1 PM.
03:51 <Schism|Adagio> CC opens at 11, I can take the #8 down to there and ultimately be back by around 1 PM, so I'll miss you on the flipside.
03:53 <Cepheid> Oh, the appointment's by phone. Gonna be like, 10 minutes tops. o3o
03:53 <Schism|Adagio> Well, that simplifies matters.
03:53 <Cepheid> It's just to follow up on my neurologist appointment. I have to go through my family doctor to figure out what the [REDACTED] is going on.
03:55 <Cepheid> Pharmacy still hasn't gotten the prescription, and I can't get in contact with the neurology clinic.
03:57 <Schism|Adagio> That's... weird. Wanna bet they just didn't receive the fax?
03:58 <Cepheid> I'm betting that.
03:58 <Cepheid> But the problem is contacting the clinic to resolve the error.
03:58 <Schism|Adagio> And I do mean fax. Why do they still use facsimile documents?
03:59 <Cepheid> The argument I heard from lawyers when I worked for a law firm for a one-month contract is that it has to do with the signature.
03:59 * Schism|Adagio eyebrows.
04:00 <Schism|Adagio> On the plus side, I believe you. On the minus side, I believe you.
04:00 * Filly_Nightmares mew!
04:00 <Cepheid> Apparently, something about the veracity of the signature, as compared to an e-mail or PDF, wherein the signature is simply an inserted image.
04:01 * Schism|Adagio crumbles a mango and dries it out and uses it as the topping for an ice cream which he provides to Filly_Nightmares!
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04:02 <Schism|Adagio> Cepheid: an argument which holds up admirably until you realize that you can send a PDF as a fax.
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04:02 <Cepheid> So, according to CPU-Z, these DIMMs are effectively identical. Same manufacturer, same model number, same number of ranks, same capacity.. So, hum..
04:02 <Schism|Adagio> Or, you know. ANY OTHER DOCUMENT. Like a text file.
04:02 <Cepheid> Heh.
04:03 <Schism|Adagio> Sorry, it's kind of touchy.
04:03 <Cepheid> Hum, there a data sheet for this RAM..?
04:04 <Schism|Adagio> Why not?
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04:05 <Schism|Adagio> Hiya, Rifty.
04:05 <ConfusionRift> Hey there!
04:05 <Schism|Adagio> Today I learned that Best Buy doesn't sell computer parts. I am le annoyed.
04:05 <ConfusionRift> And hello everypony.
04:05 <Schism|Adagio> But tomorrow I will get Nocturne back into shape.
04:05 <Cepheid> Apparently there is not.
04:06 <ConfusionRift> Well, online only, and it's mostly CPUs and GPUs.
04:07 <Cepheid> Hum.
04:07 * Cepheid researches how tRC is determined.
04:07 <Schism|Adagio> Yup. No mobos. That's okay, though. I can buy a CPU/mobo combo tomorrow and add RAM.
04:07 <Schism|Adagio> It will work. :<
04:08 <ConfusionRift> There's also tigerdirect.
04:08 <Schism|Adagio> I have a bus route to the applicable shop.
04:08 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Makenshi: Pony Rap Music: Pony Abstract @ Ponies Online 2020 [Hip Hop] [ http://tinyurl.com/y9www6sl ]
04:08 * ConfusionRift misses CompUSA.
04:09 <Schism|Adagio> It's a 5 minute walk to the bus stop, up to 15 minutes for the bus, and then however long it takes to get the damned parts.
04:09 * ConfusionRift slowly nods.
04:09 <Schism|Adagio> Also, 2 cans of air, an additional tube of thermal grease and maybe one or two case fans.
04:10 * Schism|Adagio is mildly annoyed.
04:10 <Schism|Adagio> On the flip side, I have an 850w power supply. I hadn't realized I'd overengineered to this degree, but if it works, it bloody well works.
04:12 <ConfusionRift> I called in today because I was gonna get destroyed with extra work, and other things I will not mention to keep my sanity, and went out to check some specialty shops. Yeah, 3 hours going around to find absolutely nothing of interest, because everyone took all of it.
04:12 <ConfusionRift> Schism|Adagio: Gold standard?
04:12 <Schism|Adagio> Ehngh. My condolences. :<
04:13 <Schism|Adagio> Yerp.
04:13 <ConfusionRift> Oooh, you're set on that part. :P
04:13 <ConfusionRift> Unless... no, it wouldn't make sense. You are good.
04:13 <Schism|Adagio> Yeah, I'd forgotten that I'd decided, "screw it, I'm done with my PSU breaking down."
04:14 <Schism|Adagio> This is also in part why I have my entire case filled with cables, but that's fine.
04:14 * ConfusionRift points at his 750w modular PSU. Points at the other 725w he's giving away, and a cheap 850w... that will not give to anyone, for safety.
04:14 <Schism|Adagio> So for now all I need is a CPU/Motherboard and some actual DDR4 RAM.
04:15 <Schism|Adagio> Or whatever else is available.
04:15 <Schism|Adagio> Next paycheque I can go for some new minotaurs and a video card.
04:15 <ConfusionRift> I know Newegg should still have some specials on RAM.
04:16 <Schism|Adagio> Yeah, but I've waited a week already. I learned today that Best Buy has no computer parts, only prebuilts, and NO.
04:16 <Schism|Adagio> CC should be alright with RAM, to be honest.
04:17 <ConfusionRift> Okay okay, it's all good, broh. :P
04:17 <Schism|Adagio> Pfah. :P You know and share my opinions on prebuilts.
04:18 <ConfusionRift> I think we all agree on that point.
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04:18 <Schism|Adagio> And while I would ordinarily purchase online, I am really, really, really worried about doing so when my apartment building is not open to the public, and when there is copious construction being done right next door.
04:19 <ConfusionRift> Oh, yeah, that's understandable.
04:19 <Schism|Adagio> Yeah. @_@
04:20 <Schism|Adagio> So in the interim I'm playing Terranigma!
04:21 <Cepheid> And I'm tweaking my system.
04:21 <Cepheid> Mostly, I want to get the memory running better. It's the bottleneck, and benchmarks indicate there's something wrong with the settings I have, with respect to the CPU.
04:23 <Cepheid> And given this MOBO defaults to JEDEC by default...
04:24 * Filly_Nightmares gnaw on ice cream and Schism|Adagio face!
04:24 <Schism|Adagio> It occurs to me that while I'm looking at all this, a mobo+CPU combo seems to be around $300-350 CAD.
04:25 <Cepheid> Yeah, AMD has come down in price considerably, along with mobos.
04:25 <Schism|Adagio> With RAM, I may be able to afford an HDD to boot -- should I spring for an SSD?
04:26 <Cepheid> Any idea on the CPU you want yet?
04:26 <ConfusionRift> That part is up to you. Do you want speed or capacity?
04:26 <Schism|Adagio> Well, I did mention a Ryzen 5. I don't see any reason to deal with model adjustments, as I have no intention of coding games or the like.
04:27 <Schism|Adagio> Speed is... well, I was going to get an SSD for the OS.
04:27 <Schism|Adagio> A six-core seems like the best bet, as such things go.
04:27 <ConfusionRift> Then again, you can have an SSD for primary and usual stuff, and later get an HDD for archival purposes.
04:28 <Schism|Adagio> That's basically what I was thinking. An HDD for the stuff I don't access commonly.
04:28 <Schism|Adagio> Well, an HDD to replace my old one.
04:28 <Schism|Adagio> So, 250GB SSD for OS and the like, 2TB HDD for everything else.
04:29 <ConfusionRift> It's kinda what I'm doing. Got an SSD for my OS and common use software, an hybrid for games use and storage, and standard HDD for archival.
04:29 <Cepheid> The reason I asked Schism is that Ryzen 3, 5 and 7 don't say much. There's 1XXX, 2XXX, 3XXX and such.
04:29 <Schism|Adagio> I know, but...
04:30 <Cepheid> The higher numbers don't necessarily mean "higher end"
04:30 <Schism|Adagio> Indeed. There are a lot of lower-end processors which have 'x cores' et al.
04:30 <Cepheid> Not that.
04:30 <ConfusionRift> They're gen designation, like Intel.
04:30 <Cepheid> AMD uses the thousands digit to indicate gen.
04:30 <Schism|Adagio> I intend to -- okay.
04:30 <Schism|Adagio> Oh.
04:30 <Cepheid> So, 1000 is Zen, 2000 is Zen+, 3000 is what, Zen 2?
04:31 <Cepheid> Basically, improvements over previous generations.
04:31 <Cepheid> If you can get a 6-core 3000-series CPU for the price of a 6-core 2000 CPU, I'd say go for it.
04:31 * ConfusionRift points at Zen 2. "THAT'S what you're after."
04:31 <Cepheid> Provided they share similar clocks.
04:31 <Cepheid> And even these newer gens tend to be relatively inexpensive, compared to say Intel.
04:31 <Cepheid> In fact, lesse...
04:32 <Schism|Adagio> Okay. I'll hold to ConfusionRift's suggestion, and I will also be avoiding the ThreadRipper line as though they were going to rip my wallet in twain.
04:32 <ConfusionRift> You don't really need one. ._.
04:32 <Schism|Adagio> I really, really, really don't.
04:32 <Cepheid> Let's see...
04:32 <Cepheid> I use the AMD Ryzen 2700X. It costs $449.99 CAD on Newegg.
04:33 <Schism|Adagio> You are also a coder.
04:33 <ConfusionRift> I would suggest that if you're working with a server, programming, handling multiple VMs, or a combinations of all of them.
04:33 <Cepheid> Yes, I am aware.
04:33 <Cepheid> The purpose here is comparison of clock speeds, though.
04:33 <Cepheid> A Ryzen 5 3600X, with similar clock speed, but 2 fewer cores, is $315.99. If we clock down a bit..
04:34 <Cepheid> ... Why are the lower end Ryzen 5s more EXPENSIVE than the higher end ones?
04:34 <Schism|Adagio> That's a really good question.
04:34 <Cepheid> Anyways...
04:34 <Schism|Adagio> I'm seeing the 2600X hexcore at $300.
04:35 <Cepheid> So, the third gen hexcore is about the same, then.
04:35 * Cepheid checks benchmarking results between 3600X and 2700X. Just for kicks.
04:35 <Schism|Adagio> I'm not going to rely upon Amazon and Newegg.
04:35 <Schism|Adagio> I'm sorry, Cepheid. Based on this, I'm going to have to head in and see what I can find there at CC.
04:35 <Cepheid> Meanwhile, 2600X...
04:35 <Schism|Adagio> Because this is bull(#$*.
04:36 * ConfusionRift checks for his 2400g, and looks again. Looks down... then looks again.
04:36 <Cepheid> Looks like, for the same price, the 3600X is better than the 2600X.
04:36 <Schism|Adagio> ConfusionRift, you seen Disenchantment?
04:36 <Cepheid> In any case..
04:36 <Cepheid> They'll likely advise Zen 2(Third gen Ryzen) stuff.
04:36 <Cepheid> Which isn't a bad choice.
04:37 <Schism|Adagio> Eh, not a bad idea. Most of what I'm looking for is a motherboard and CPU which works for the games I play, which aren't excessively problematic in that fashion.
04:38 <Schism|Adagio> Plus, RAM which won't melt at the touch of a poke.
04:38 <Cepheid> Well the thing about going with third gen is it gives you some wiggle room for upgrades.
04:38 <ConfusionRift> I suggest it more, simply because Zen+ and the 2xxx series has had its share of problems, and can be picky. Zen 2 is more refined and supported, and most of those kinks with memory and clocks are fixed.
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04:38 <Cepheid> Motherboards can generally use a generation or two ahead of them.
04:38 <Cepheid> Provides the socket is compatible.
04:39 <Schism|Adagio> Yeah, we're good. And of course, my video card is compatible.
04:39 <Schism|Adagio> That's next on my list, naturally.
04:39 <Schism|Adagio> A GTX 7600 or whatever is not ideal.
04:39 <ConfusionRift> Aaaa what? :P
04:40 <Schism|Adagio> I joke. It's a 760. But still REALLY NOT GOOD.
04:40 <ConfusionRift> Yeah... that's ummm, I think that's just a leech to your PSU.
04:40 <Schism|Adagio> It'll be fine for now. And next on my list.
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04:41 <ConfusionRift> Schism|Adagio: Haven't watched it yet, haven't had a chance.
04:41 <ConfusionRift> Work has been a pain.
04:42 <Schism|Adagio> Take a look when you can. Cepheid can attest to its quality. :P
04:42 <Schism|Adagio> Luci is best demon-cat ever.
04:43 <Schism|Adagio> And yeah... my work is the same.
04:43 <Finwe> Good morning, everypony!
04:44 <Finwe> Lt Cdr ConfusionRift, Capt Koopz; Messrs Cepheid and Schism|Adagio, Mlles Ali, Filly_Nightmares and PrincessRainbows.
04:44 <Finwe> o7
04:44 <ConfusionRift> RAdm. Finwe. (salutes)
04:44 * Ali nuzzles into ConfusionRift and Schism|Adagio and Finwe
04:44 * Finwe hugs the Ali.
04:44 *** coolm_ is now known as PinkieShy
04:46 <Finwe> Mr PinkieShy.
04:46 * Finwe doffs his hat.
04:46 <Schism|Adagio> "Excuse me. What did you just do." "I... won?"
04:46 * ConfusionRift snugs Ali.
04:47 * Schism|Adagio also snugs the Ali.
04:55 <Schism|Adagio> I tell everyone that Omega flips around after the first starboard/larboard, but nooooo...
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05:11 * Finwe boops Ali with a free 10 Second Ninja X on Steam: https://store.steampowered.com/app/435790/10_Second_Ninja_X/
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05:22 <Finwe> It's not VR, it's not horror. o3o
05:29 <Cepheid> Experimentation concludes that I must have a bad DIMM. One that is not able to perform to spec.
05:36 * Finwe noms on the memory banks on Cepheid's motherboard.
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06:25 <Koopz> RAdm. Finwe o7
06:26 * PrincessRainbows flops on Ali and makes upset filly noises
06:26 * Ali hugs on PrincessRainbows so much
06:27 * PrincessRainbows whinnies
06:28 * PrincessRainbows boops Ali just because
06:29 * Ali automatically reboops PrincessRainbows with magic
06:30 * PrincessRainbows giggles a lot
06:35 * ConfusionRift eats some peppermint patties.
06:39 * Ali puts PrincessRainbows onto papa ConfusionRift~
06:39 <ConfusionRift> 0_0
06:39 * ConfusionRift boops PrincessRainbows.
06:40 * PrincessRainbows makes happy filly noises
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07:40 <Cepheid> Right. Got an idea as to which settings make my PC tick. Also rooted out a user-error mistake.
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08:06 * PrincessRainbows flops on ConfusionRift to go sleepy like a good little filly
08:07 * ConfusionRift patpats PrincessRainbows. "Have a good one."
08:23 <Cepheid> Hey Rifty, fore I go to bed, you like the SCP Foundation, right? Go check out Control.
08:24 <ConfusionRift> Ummm, not going to bed yet. Also... Control? o_0
08:25 * PrincessRainbows tears up and makes grabby hooves at ConfusionRift
08:25 <Cepheid> I said before *I* go to bed.
08:26 <ConfusionRift> Ooooh... sorry.
08:26 * ConfusionRift grabbies then pets PrincessRainbows.
08:26 <Cepheid> As for Control, it's a PS4/XBox/PC game that takes inspiration from the Foundation.
08:27 <Cepheid> !link https://youtu.be/PT5yMfC9LQM
08:27 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.
08:27 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about YouTube
08:27 <ConfusionRift> This looks familiar...
08:28 <ConfusionRift> OOOOH, this gaaame.
08:32 <Cepheid> Guh. Drugs took their sweet time kicking in. Cycle must be doing its pendulum swing.
08:33 <ConfusionRift> Here's the thing with this game. This is actually a revision from an very old project that... was just a trainwreck. Also... wooow. People got copies of it last year. So there are plenty of spoilers.
08:35 <ConfusionRift> The concept is very interesting, but the execution... well, we'll see.
08:35 <Cepheid> ... I... Don't understand what you are saying. It makes no senser.
08:35 <Cepheid> The game was released in August of last year.
08:36 <Cepheid> I like what I've played.
08:36 * ConfusionRift sighs. Checks again... huh.?
08:37 <ConfusionRift> Okay, so is Steam just getting chained on that, or is that gonna be a new port?
08:37 <Cepheid> EGS.
08:37 <Cepheid> Epic Games Store, that is.
08:37 <ConfusionRift> Oh, that garbage.
08:38 <Cepheid> Also on PS4 and XBox.
08:41 <Cepheid> Beyond that, not much else to say. Anyways, I'm off to bed.
08:42 <ConfusionRift> Comment still stands. This game is still a work from another project that came to be long time ago, which did not work well. That is why I kinda steered clear from it. But from what I see now... maybe... hmmm. I might give it a shot.
08:44 <Cepheid> Given the reviews seen particularly positive... My thoughts on it is that it's got it's hooks in me.
08:46 <ConfusionRift> Oh yeah, this is very SCP right now. And don't get me wrong, I like what I see at the moment. Gonna check how is it on PS4, and might go for it.
08:48 <Cepheid> Initial reports indicated it had a rocky start on the consoles. Since improved with patches for a more stable framerate. All I know.
08:48 <ConfusionRift> That reminds me. I wonder if there might be a side mission thing for SCP Containment Breach, which takes place on the side of one of the guards just before and during the breach.
08:48 <ConfusionRift> Was more referring to price. :P Almost has a year, so it might still be on the high point.
08:48 <Cepheid> Heh.
08:49 <Cepheid> Anyhoo, seriously. Sleeps. Or some facsimile of it anyway. Feel loopy, tired, but still alert.
08:50 <ConfusionRift> Actually, this could be an interesting concept. A game or film that shows event during SCP testing and such.
08:50 <ConfusionRift> Alrighty. Have a good one!
09:09 * PrincessRainbows licks the ConfusionRift horsey and goes sleepy for real. Nini
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10:44 <RichardMist> Hoiii everyponies! *waves*
10:46 <ConfusionRift> hallo.
10:47 <RichardMist> hey ConfusionRift, how are ya?
10:47 <ConfusionRift> Just checking on a few things before crashing.
10:47 <RichardMist> oh, okie
11:06 * Filly_Nightmares mewls and curls up wif ConfusionRift
11:06 * Filly_Nightmares yawnskrees
11:08 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Morning Discussion #1942 [ http://tinyurl.com/y7458cuu ]
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11:19 * ConfusionRift yawns, patpats Filly_Nightmares, then goes to sleep.
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11:19 * Filly_Nightmares purr
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11:39 <RichardMist> hoii Filly_Nightmares *waves*
11:43 <Finwe> o3o
11:43 * Finwe hats on Filly_Nightmares.
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11:49 <RichardMist> hello Mr. Finwe *nods*
11:51 <Finwe> Mr RichardMist.
11:52 * Finwe , currently pretending to be a hat on Filly_Nightmares's head, doffs himself.
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12:21 * Sleeping_Nightmares purrs happily
12:23 * Finwe is sleepy and cosy.
12:55 * RichardMist *looking at Sleeping_Nightmares and smiles*
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13:16 <RichardMist> hoiiiii Ali! *waves*
13:17 * Ali wavies and grumps at computer for always disconnecting the moment the unicorn gets up.
13:24 * Ali drags miss HoneyDrops out of hiding for snuggling.
13:29 <RichardMist> Ali maybe some help with your pc?
13:36 <Ali> Who knows, its old as dirt and surprised it still runs at times.
13:36 <RichardMist> how old is your computer Ali?
13:38 <Ali> Motherboard is like 15 years old?
13:40 <RichardMist> yeah, a little bit younger than mine
13:41 <Finwe> Miss Ali.
13:41 * Finwe doffs his hat.
13:41 * Ali doffs over Finwe with a yawn
13:41 <Ali> I really am never up this early, but the stupid heat and my mind running wild kinda stops any form of sleeping from happening.
13:43 <RichardMist> oh, looks like it's pretty hot by your side
13:44 <Ali> A bit warm yeah, but the humidity is what makes it real bad.
13:46 <RichardMist> oh, really bad
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14:46 * Schism|Adagio awakens. Waits for coffee before he has his shower and gets out.
14:47 * Ali melts into Schism|Adagio
14:47 * Schism|Adagio pours ice water onto Ali.
14:50 <RichardMist> hoiiii Schism|Adagio! *waves*
14:50 * RichardMist *gives Ali big fan*
14:50 * Schism|Adagio looks up the Great Attractor. "That's a lot of words for 'supermassive black hole'."
14:51 <Schism|Adagio> Kidding. Turns out it's a selection of very, very dense galaxies.
14:54 * Ali nibbles on Schism|Adagio ear and yawns
14:55 <Finwe> o3o
14:57 <Schism|Adagio> Densely packed, anyway.
14:57 * Schism|Adagio boops the Ali with a chocolate cornet.
15:01 * Ali noms the food and nuzzle the Schism|Adagio
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15:52 * Cepheid awakens.
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16:02 * Schism|Adagio says in Luci's voice, "Go on, sleep in a bit longer, you deserve it."
16:03 <Cepheid> Heh.
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16:08 * Finwe noms on Ali|AFK's keyboard while she is not watching.
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16:24 <Cepheid> So I may be making a horrible mistake Schism.
16:26 <Cepheid> I introduced my mother to the Foundation.
16:27 <Schism|Adagio> Going to play a bit of Containment Breach with her watching?
16:27 <Cepheid> You know, that's tempting, once she gets a bit of understanding. If she likes it that is.
16:27 <Schism|Adagio> Give her some of the fluffier stories. Three Portlands, Gamers Against Weed, maybe a couple others.
16:27 <Cepheid> She seems to like what she's seen of Control, so I'm hopeful.
16:28 <Schism|Adagio> Did you ever play SOMA or Amnesia in that way?
16:28 <Cepheid> I actually directed her to start with Series I. In particular, 87, 93, and 173 for historical reasons.
16:29 <Schism|Adagio> 682 as well, of course.
16:29 <Cepheid> No. She only recently within the last few years took an interest in my gaming. After those games came out and I played them. But it would be a fun idea to go back to them.
16:29 <Schism|Adagio> 173 is great, but I think 682 is the real mascot of the Foundation.
16:29 <Cepheid> And the Outlast series.
16:29 * Schism|Adagio mms.
16:30 <Cepheid> Truth told it may appeal to her. She is a fan of B-movie stuff as well.
16:31 <Cepheid> I partly introduced her as a way for her to pass time at work. Due to recent events, her job has been quiet and boring.
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16:33 <Cepheid> Security guard for City of Ottawa. Don't recall which location in particular. But it's entirely locked down right now. No one goes in or out.
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16:34 <Schism|Adagio> That is the best security.
16:34 <Schism|Adagio> Bit hard on the employees, though.
16:34 <Cepheid> The only people allowed in to various places are medical services. And the rare high-level politician needing to get to meeting. Usually such cases require going through a protocol right now.
16:35 <Schism|Adagio> https://www.schlockmercenary.com/2009-09-27
16:35 <Cepheid> Well, the buildings are shut down for the most part. Skeleton crews to maintain them, at best.
16:36 <Schism|Adagio> Yeah, same for my office. Majorel's keeping everyone except the bare minimum at home.
16:36 <Cepheid> And even *THOSE* right now are subject to scrutiny or needing security details.
16:36 <Cepheid> Mother still gets the occasional idiot who tries to cause some *YAY*.
16:36 <Cepheid> But that is no different from the norm.
16:37 <Schism|Adagio> Yeah, if you're looking for a world without idiots, Mars is right over there.
16:37 <Cepheid> Truth told, I'm still surprised she is a security guard.
16:38 <Cepheid> My mother actually got assaulted really badly at one of the places she worked at.
16:38 * Schism|Adagio nods. :< "It is a high-risk profession."
16:39 <Cepheid> Military person came in one day. Wanted to use the elevator to go talk to her superior. She wasn't authorized to use the elevator.
16:39 <Cepheid> My mother tells her, and refuses to let the person use the elevator despite insistence.
16:40 <Cepheid> Then out of the blue, she starts attacking my mother. Escalated to assault with a weapon when she took a wall sign and started hitting my mother with it.
16:40 <Cepheid> Worst part is, other security guards were nearby when it happened, and did nothing.
16:41 <Cepheid> Apparently someone saw it on the cameras in the security camera room and sent a security detail to resolve the incident.
16:41 <Schism|Adagio> The hell? On multiple levels.
16:41 <Schism|Adagio> Sounds like even if she wants to still be a security officer, that's enough to make her not want to be a security officer there.
16:42 <Cepheid> Apparently, what happened is the woman was being court marshaled and facing dishonorable discharge. She was going to go "talk" to the higher ups about it.
16:43 * Schism|Adagio eyebrows. "And so your mother performed her duty in an exemplary fashion. Why did nobody else help her?"
16:43 <Cepheid> Fear of retaliation from the person.
16:43 <Schism|Adagio> Bullcrap. If they're scared of retaliation they shouldn't be a security guard.
16:44 <Schism|Adagio> Probably a good dose of bystander syndrome, too.
16:44 <Schism|Adagio> (Yes, I know that the original case study of bystander syndrome was scientifically invalid.)
16:45 <Cepheid> Mmm.
16:49 <RichardMist> hoiii Cepheid! *waves*
16:50 <Schism|Adagio> I would also very much like to know what that woman was trying to accomplish WRT her court-marshal.
16:50 <Schism|Adagio> Like, storming up there and verbally assaulting her superior officer would help her case how, exactly?
16:51 <Cepheid> Who knows?
16:51 <Cepheid> https://twitter.com/Porforever/status/1263712586220007425?s=19
16:51 <Schism|Adagio> And because curiosity is my greatest vice, I also have to wonder what the heck her initial discharge was for.
16:52 <ADragonDreaming> Insubordination and disrespect of the chain of command.
16:52 <Cepheid> And hey, Richard.
16:52 <Schism|Adagio> Oh, nice.
16:52 <ADragonDreaming> or would that be breaking...
16:52 <Schism|Adagio> And hah, probably, Adra.
16:53 <ADragonDreaming> prbobably breaking
16:53 <Cepheid> That sort of information wasn't available Schism, for obvious reasons.
16:53 <Schism|Adagio> Well, yeah. But I can still wonder.
16:53 <Schism|Adagio> Based on her response, that was probably on the nose, though.
16:54 <Schism|Adagio> Urg. I should head out there, but it's sticky as [yay].
16:54 <Cepheid> https://twitter.com/Porforever/status/1263024133815721986?s=19
16:56 <Schism|Adagio> Tha -- sure, why not.
16:56 <Cepheid> Porforever is a bit... Weird.
16:56 <Cepheid> Hell of an imagination, but weird with their snail OC.
16:57 <Cepheid> https://twitter.com/Porforever/status/1261665532178075650?s=19
16:57 <Cepheid> https://twitter.com/Porforever/status/1255912175425556481?s=19
16:57 <Cepheid> https://twitter.com/Porforever/status/1254797367062040581?s=19
16:58 <Cepheid> https://twitter.com/Porforever/status/1247186428523503616?s=19
16:59 <Cepheid> https://twitter.com/Porforever/status/1241605662167027714?s=19
17:00 <Cepheid> Meanwhile for more complete examples of their art...
17:00 <Cepheid> https://twitter.com/Porforever/status/1249372081944313857?s=19
17:00 <Cepheid> https://twitter.com/Porforever/status/1250367741694885889?s=19
17:00 <Cepheid> https://twitter.com/Porforever/status/1251215813178081282?s=19
17:00 <Cepheid> https://twitter.com/Porforever/status/1260161152346058759?s=19
17:01 <Cepheid> They are among one of the best digital artists I've ever seen.
17:01 <Schism|Adagio> That's a lotta links. Anyhoo. It's 1 PM, so I should get out to CC...
17:02 <Schism|Adagio> W... th...
17:02 <Schism|Adagio> While I am at once aghast at the idea of this, I kind of like it. http://www.citypages.com/music/scary-northeast-minneapolis-ice-cream-truck-has-heavy-metal-no-ice-cream/570670651
17:02 <Cepheid> https://twitter.com/Porforever/status/1261010140242644993?s=19
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17:03 <Cepheid> Hah.
17:03 <RichardMist> hoiii cabbage! *waves*
17:05 <Schism|Adagio> That's... pure cartoon villainy, and I have to admire it.
17:06 <Cepheid> I wonder if our neighborhood will get visited by the guy from Toronto. Guy comes up to Ottawa for a week or so with his ice cream truck every summer. Actually sells it too. Has not failed to come by here since he started doing it.
17:07 <Cepheid> Gah I forgot the aleve again today.
17:08 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Vinyl and Octavia (+ More Music Ponies) Day on May 27th! 2 Day Reminder [ http://tinyurl.com/y96hos84 ]
17:09 <Cepheid> https://i.redd.it/vafijfccuw051.jpg
17:14 <Schism|Adagio> Such d'aww.
17:14 <Cepheid> Its mostly by confining myself to the Awww that I slow the frequency of my outbursts.
17:14 <RichardMist> cute
17:16 <RichardMist> Someone's birthday today?
17:23 <Cepheid> Not sure. Mine is on the 27th.
17:24 <RichardMist> Cepheid May, 27th?
17:25 <Cepheid> Yes.
17:25 <RichardMist> okie, got it
17:27 <Cepheid> Man this doctor of mine is great about keeping appointments. Phone appointment at 1PM. It's 1:26PM and I'm still waiting.
17:28 <RichardMist> this is bad
17:30 <Cepheid> Normal, though. Still, you'd think they'd be a bit more punctual, given they charge you for late or no shows as a patient.
17:35 <Schism|Adagio> Unexpected delays do crop up. Sometimes, for example, a patient takes a bit more time than expected.
17:35 <Schism|Adagio> Though of course, you'd think they'd understand that it works the other way, too.
17:35 <Schism|Adagio> Anyway. I should get out. Gods, I wish it would actually rain...
17:36 <Cepheid> This doctor is notorious for always being exceedingly late.
17:42 <RichardMist> very irresponsible
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17:57 <Cepheid> So like, at what point can I legally send a bill for 60 dollars due to a no-show from my doctor?
18:00 <RichardMist> Maybe if he's late up to 1:30?
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18:08 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Fanfiction Updates - May 25th [ http://tinyurl.com/ycxn8ok9 ]
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18:21 <RichardMist> hoiiii Taoki! *waves*
18:21 <Taoki> Hi
18:22 <RichardMist> how are ya Taoki?
18:22 <Taoki> ok
18:28 <Cepheid> Right, I'm gonna assume my doctor isn't gonna call. So I'm gonna go take a shower and lay down.
18:29 <RichardMist> Cepheid I'm so sorry for you
18:30 <RichardMist> he is just irresponsible idiot
18:57 <Cepheid> He probably decided he wasn't gonna work today.
18:58 <RichardMist> :< very sad
19:02 <RichardMist> I hope nothing bad happened for him
19:03 <RichardMist> And nothing bad will happed to you of course
19:03 <RichardMist> will happen*
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19:09 <Schism|Adagio> I return, with parts.
19:10 <Schism|Adagio> Gigabyte motherboard, which is fine. Ryzom 5 3600, 16 GB of Corsair at 3000MHz, and a Kingston 240GB.
19:11 <Cepheid> Nice.
19:11 <Schism|Adagio> Almost forgot to ask for a mount for the lattermost, which would have been slightly amusing.
19:14 <Cepheid> Yeah. SSDs with their reduced size need mounting brackets, these days.
19:15 <RichardMist> Schism|Adagio what type of SSD Memory?
19:16 <Schism|Adagio> Kingston A400.
19:16 <Schism|Adagio> So, I'll migrate my Windows installation on there in the fullness of time.
19:24 <Schism|Adagio> "Now, where did all our screws go..."
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19:28 <RichardMist> Schism|Adagio: I mean MLC or TLC or SLC or PCI QLC(NVMe)?
19:32 <Cepheid> Research just reports 3D NAND.
19:32 <RichardMist> meh, NVMe is fastest
19:33 <Cepheid> Yes, but more expensive.
19:33 <Schism|Adagio> Oh dear. This is a different model of CPU cooler than the one with which I'm familiar.
19:34 <Schism|Adagio> Oh, I see. Get rid of the retention frame first. Derp.
19:34 <Cepheid> Wraith Prism?
19:34 <RichardMist> okie
19:34 <RichardMist> Cepheid yeah, right
19:36 <RichardMist> hmm...
19:37 <RichardMist> but SLC is best adter NVMe
19:37 <RichardMist> after*
19:39 <Schism|Adagio> Well, there's one. Heatsink on and properly secured.
19:40 <Schism|Adagio> It's stock, but I'll take it for now until I can afford a better one (which I'll get along with a new video card).
19:41 <RichardMist> okie
19:41 <RichardMist> but SLC is not that bad
19:41 <RichardMist> only speed
19:41 <RichardMist> is different
19:43 * Schism|Adagio opens the peripheral plate. "Heh, this has been a while."
19:45 <Schism|Adagio> Bending back all those clips, and whatnot.
19:47 <Schism|Adagio> Hm. Installed case fan backwards. It's blocking RAM port 4. That's okay.
19:47 <Schism|Adagio> Er, CPU fan*
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19:57 <RichardMist> hoiii RyuImperator! *waves*
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19:57 <RichardMist> oh
19:58 <Schism|Adagio> SATA is not the ideal mode for this drive, but it'll work.
20:00 <Cepheid> Regarding the cooler, if it's the cooler I think it is, its poorly designed and the orientation doesn't matter. Those RAM slots will probably be blocked by it.
20:00 <Schism|Adagio> Yeah, just one slot, though. As I have just the 16GB of DDR3, it won't make a difference, and I can adjust it later. Will, to be honest.
20:00 <Schism|Adagio> DDR4, I mean.
20:01 <Cepheid> Mmhmm.
20:01 <Cepheid> Two 8GiB DIMMs, I presume.
20:02 <Schism|Adagio> Yeah, Corsair's Vengeance variety. They tend to work well enough.
20:02 <Schism|Adagio> I doubt I'll be overclocking them, but those heatsinks are nice to have.
20:03 <RichardMist> yeah, 2 DIMM's by 8GB will be more stable
20:05 <Schism|Adagio> This ain't my first rodeo.
20:05 * Schism|Adagio takes out a pair of needlenose pliers.
20:08 <RichardMist> ow
20:08 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Drawfriend Stuff (Pony Art Gallery) #3353 [ http://tinyurl.com/y6w6vy5f ]
20:08 <RichardMist> Schism|Adagio what will you do with them?
20:09 <Schism|Adagio> Case mount screws, of course.
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20:16 <Schism|Adagio> Roit.
20:16 * Schism|Adagio takes the peripheral bracket and just breaks off the dangling bits.
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20:26 <Schism|Adagio> Argh. There. It's always that one screw next to the RAM which defies installation.
20:28 * Cepheid flops back, covered entirely in sweat-soaked clothes.
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20:34 <Schism|Adagio> And now, the most frustrating part of this whole endeavour.
20:34 <Schism|Adagio> The part which drives every single motherboard installer to utter distraction. The part which can only be performed with a steady hand and a steely heart.
20:36 <Lumindia_> which part?
20:36 <Cepheid> Booting for the first time.
20:37 <Schism|Adagio> Front panel pinning.
20:37 <Lumindia_> ah
20:37 <Lumindia_> good luck with that
20:38 <Cepheid> That isn't all that bad.
20:40 <Lumindia_> I have nuggies
20:40 <Schism|Adagio> It is a pain.
20:40 * Schism|Adagio provides Lumindia with some honey mustard sriracha dipping sauce for said nuggies.
20:40 * Sleeping_Nightmares noms Lumindia_
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20:41 <Schism|Adagio> Nuggies and wuv, it would appear.
20:43 <Schism|Adagio> Hum. It's plausible that it would be best to keep my Windows installation on the platter drive until I'm ready to do a new installation outright.
20:44 <Schism|Adagio> If so, that's okay. I can temporarily move FFXIV and the high-profile stuff to the SSD.
20:47 <Cepheid> FFXIV does not benefit from being on an SSD in any way.
20:47 <Cepheid> Keep it on the platter drive. Otherwise it is just wasting space on the SSD.
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20:48 <ADragonDreaming> Yeah, I'm being very selecting as to what goes on the SSD.
20:48 <ADragonDreaming> I might try MHWorld out on this laptop, though.
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20:50 <Schism|Adagio> Hooboy. MFW I realize I'm missing a few wires...
20:50 <Cepheid> MHWorld definitely benefits from an SSD in terms of transitioning to new areas, and loading quests after posting them. But that's about it.
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20:51 <Cepheid> As for on a laptop? Can work depending on the laptop. Just make sure you put it on like, a flat surface or TV tray first so it vents better.
20:51 <ADragonDreaming> Aye.
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20:53 <ADragonDreaming> My old latop has been dying for a bit, so I've been planning to replace anyway. Now I have this one, which has Intel i-7 processor, 16 gb ram, GTX 1660 ti
20:53 <Schism|Adagio> Nothing big. But "Hey, where are those front audio ports contained anyway?" is a bit worrisome.
20:53 <Schism|Adagio> Adra: Graphics card is my next point.
20:53 <ADragonDreaming> 512 GB SSD, 1 TB HDD. So of course all my big-space-hog stuff from the old lappy is going on the HDD.
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20:54 <Cepheid> Schism: should be a header that reads AC '97 or HD Audio.
20:54 <Cepheid> The connector is usually in the lower-left corner of the motherboard.
20:54 <ADragonDreaming> I'm put MHW on the SSD at some point soon. The games that loaded like molasses in winter on old lappy will also go there, while I am playing them.
20:54 <Cepheid> Next to all the USB connectors.
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20:55 <Cepheid> Nice laptop Adra. MHWorld will definitely run on it at around 1080p60 at high. Definitely at medium.
20:56 <Schism|Adagio> Yeah, now I remember that it's labeled HDA. Nice 'Audio' connector series for it.
20:56 <Cepheid> Just gotta make sure the OS knows to use the dedicated card for it.
20:56 <Schism|Adagio> Unless Windows 8 somehow doesn't have these Gigabyte drivers loaded already, that should be fine.
20:56 <RichardMist> for Realtek ac97 just "AC97"
20:57 <RichardMist> for AC 97 it's 8-pin connector
20:58 <Cepheid> Being honest Schism, yer probably gonna have to reinstall Windows. Windows tends not to like such drastic changes in components.
20:58 <Cepheid> Especially the boot loader.
20:58 <ADragonDreaming> I got away with it, but I had to "call in" the verification.
20:58 <RichardMist> Schism|Adagio you have problems with audio?
21:01 * Cepheid realizes after vacuuming two floors of the house in their entirety, going so far as to even move all the chairs and such out of the way to get under them, that he missed the stairwell. He also didn't get the downstairs.
21:01 * Cepheid looks at his clothing, covered in sweat stains and salt. "... I'll leave it for tomorrow."
21:01 <RichardMist> wow, still doing that vaccuming?
21:02 <Cepheid> Not anymore. I finished for the day. Total chores included...
21:02 <RichardMist> yeah, fluffy catz - real problem
21:03 <RichardMist> nice work Cepheid
21:04 <Schism|Adagio> Randomly: Gotta love having a huge bag of unsorted screws.
21:04 <Cepheid> Cleaning up cat vomit. Deep cleaning a cat litter. Cleaning my bathroom. Vacuuming the upstairs. Vacuuming the living floor. Clean up the other cat litters. Unload dish washer. Grumble about how my dad doesn't know how to use a dishwasher. Load dishwasher. Laundry.
21:04 <RichardMist> depends on what screws?
21:05 <RichardMist> Cepheid: wow
21:05 <Cepheid> Usually unneeded extra screws leftover from products mostly. Some like to provide extra screws to be safe.
21:09 * Schism|Adagio says a prayer.
21:09 <Schism|Adagio> Yeah, various screws from that, and from old projects.
21:09 <Schism|Adagio> If I disassemble an old computer, I'll usually keep the screws.
21:11 <Cepheid> 'Member to check the RAM speed in the UEFI. Make sure it uses the XMP/DOCP profile. Profiles might be listed under overclocking, as it is in my system.
21:11 <Schism|Adagio> Okay. Mouse and keyboard in the legacy ports. White on bottom, black on top for monitors. Ethernet in. Power in.
21:12 <Schism|Adagio> ...
21:12 <RichardMist> hmm...
21:12 <RichardMist> let's see
21:12 <Schism|Adagio> okay. Wiring might be incorrect.
21:12 <Cepheid> Make sure the PSU switch is on.
21:13 <RichardMist> make sure you plugged in 20(24) pin motherboard main power connector
21:14 <RichardMist> and 4 or 8 pin cpu power main power connector
21:15 <Schism|Adagio> I suspect I know what the concern is, and it's none of those.
21:15 <Schism|Adagio> The motherboard for whatever reason had the reset button reversed.
21:16 <RichardMist> ehm...
21:16 <RichardMist> ok
21:17 <Schism|Adagio> Please allow me my rudamentary, if invalid, diagnoses before I decide that this was all a waste of time because the graphics card is shot.
21:17 * Cepheid cooks a pizza.
21:17 <Schism|Adagio> Oh! Hello, computer. Nice to see you have a BIOS.
21:18 <RichardMist> oh man
21:18 <RichardMist> Cepheid yeah, pizza
21:18 <RichardMist> have a nice meal!
21:18 <Schism|Adagio> She lives! She liiiives!
21:18 * Schism|Adagio checks all of the settings.
21:18 <Cepheid> Huzzah!
21:19 <RichardMist> yepee!
21:20 <Schism|Adagio> That's... hm. Windows 8.1 is being a bit of a bugaboo, though. I hope that I didn't get something wrong.
21:21 <RichardMist> Schism|Adagio congratulations, you made it!
21:21 <Schism|Adagio> It's probably just a matter of 'hey, this looks like a new computer'.
21:21 <Schism|Adagio> Which, yanno.
21:21 <RichardMist> windows 8.1 is pretty stable
21:21 <Cepheid> Boot into safe mode. Install drivers.
21:22 <Schism|Adagio> Yeah, I do prefer it to 10 for my own reasons. Also, heh. Windows doesn't like installing drivers in safe mode, Cepheid.
21:22 <RichardMist> yeah
21:22 <RichardMist> windows 10, yeah better
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21:23 * Lumindia_ boops Ali
21:23 <Lumindia_> :D
21:23 <Schism|Adagio> Hm. No, computer, it is not 5:23 in the morning, but-- oh, right.
21:23 * Ali melts into Lumindia_
21:23 <Lumindia_> o.o
21:23 * Lumindia_ petpet
21:23 <Ali> Its too hot T.T
21:24 * Lumindia_ carries Ali into his room, where the AC is running
21:24 * Cepheid goes upstairs after eating, the flops onto bed in front of fan.
21:25 <Schism|Adagio> Ugh. "Unsupported Hardware" notification because I'm on an OEM version. That's normal.
21:25 <Schism|Adagio> I'll have to get in touch with MS to fix that.
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21:27 <Schism|Adagio> Ah. I see what's going on there. Security features enabled on Windows 10, but not 8.1.
21:27 * Ali touches all of Schism|Adagio's parts
21:27 * Schism|Adagio carefully attaches an alligator clip to Ali's ear before she does.
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21:27 <Cepheid> There's a reason I go for non-OEM versions.
21:28 * Ali puffycheeks, playing with ESD ees fun
21:28 <Ali> On already dead parts
21:28 * Ali rolls around
21:28 * Lumindia_ tosses Pillows at Alio
21:28 <Lumindia_> pomf pomf
21:28 <RichardMist> my stupid internet!
21:28 <RichardMist> OEM is kust "meh OEM' foe me
21:28 * Ali magic's them back at Lumindia_. "Too hot already."
21:28 <RichardMist> jus*
21:28 <Finwe> Messrs Lumindia_, Schism|Adagio, RichardMist and Cepheid; Miss Ali.
21:28 * Finwe doffs his hat.
21:29 <RichardMist> hello magnificent Mr. Finwe *nods*
21:30 * RichardMist *touches Ali*
21:30 * Ali squeaks
21:30 * RichardMist *feels interestin'
21:31 <RichardMist> owie -3-
21:31 * Finwe noms on Ali's tail.
21:31 * Ali squeaks again, so much attentions.
21:31 * RichardMist *wants to touch dat again*
21:32 <Schism|Adagio> Epic. If you want me to sign in... let me reset my [yay] password.
21:32 <RichardMist> yeh, hax
21:32 <Cepheid> Takes a few minutes for the email to arrive.
21:33 <Schism|Adagio> Hm. More than that, it reports 'invalid action'.
21:33 <Schism|Adagio> Or 'incorrect response'.
21:33 * RichardMist *touches Ali again*
21:33 * RichardMist *feels like touching poneh*
21:33 * Lumindia_ cuddles the AliPoni lots
21:33 <Lumindia_> <3
21:33 <Lumindia_> Yer a good bean
21:34 * RichardMist *touches Lumindia_*
21:34 <Cepheid> Schismatics, make sure the system clock is set correctly.
21:34 * Lumindia_ disintegrates
21:34 * RichardMist *feels like hot potato*
21:34 <Cepheid> ...
21:34 <Cepheid> Why did it autocorrect your name to that?
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21:35 <Schism|Adagio> I have a concern now.
21:35 * Lumindia_ shrug
21:35 * RichardMist *ded*
21:35 <Schism|Adagio> For whatever reason, the SSD is reading as an invalid PCI device?
21:35 <Cepheid> Probably improper drivers for the motherboard controller.
21:36 <Schism|Adagio> Well. In you go, DVD.
21:37 <Schism|Adagio> On second thought, better idea.
21:37 <Cepheid> Website.
21:37 <Schism|Adagio> Yeah.
21:37 <Schism|Adagio> Enough with the specs, website, I've already bought the damn thing. Where are the drivers?
21:38 <RichardMist> maybe need additional SATA controller drivers from that disc with mobo
21:38 <RichardMist> for mobo* will be right
21:39 <Cepheid> Support section, Schism.
21:39 <Schism|Adagio> Yeah. ... these are audio drivers. Useful, but not quite what I'm looking for.
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21:39 <RichardMist> maybe some games will need it
21:40 <RichardMist> unless you have newer version
21:40 * Schism|Adagio goes into Disk Management. "Aha. There you are."
21:42 <Schism|Adagio> SSD formatted, now to get FFXIV on there and see how much better it runs. It's possible that Windows might just not be recognizing my old, old optical drive.
21:43 <Cepheid> Again, FFXIV does not benefit from an SSD.
21:43 <RichardMist> maybe also they have a newer version of SSD Firmware?
21:43 <Schism|Adagio> Cepheid: ... well, I'll also put MHW on there.
21:44 <Schism|Adagio> Also, FFXIV doesn't normally, but it takes a long time to zone on occasion.
21:44 <Cepheid> That, however, does benefit.
21:44 <RichardMist> Schism|Adagio: what about SSD Firmware update check?
21:45 <Schism|Adagio> It's fine. I figured out the error, the drive just wasn't initialized.
21:45 <Schism|Adagio> I knew I'd have to format it, it just took a bit to find the drive.
21:45 <Cepheid> Schism, my experiences with FFXIV on an SSD versus platter drive, and I use an NVMe SSD which is probably at least three times as fast as the A400, is that there is no functional difference. Loading is entirely dependent on RAM and CPU it seems.
21:46 <RichardMist> Just in case : the update may increase performance of SSD and increase it's stability
21:46 <Schism|Adagio> Oh, bleh. Oh well, then.
21:46 <Schism|Adagio> MHW though should benefit greatly at least.
21:46 <Schism|Adagio> Also, with the 16GB of 3000MHz, this should help.
21:47 <Schism|Adagio> Was just working with 12 GB before and of mismatched types.
21:47 <Cepheid> MHWorld definitely benefits.
21:48 <RichardMist> Cepheid, yeh NVMe is the fastest among other memory types
21:48 <Cepheid> Course, you're on a PC so it'll fare better in any case compared to the console releases.
21:48 <Cepheid> Good gods the load times on the PS4.
21:49 <Ali> Could be worse, could be Sonic 06 load times
21:49 <Cepheid> Nearly a minute to load the quest before you can depart. Then another 30 to 60 seconds just to load the area.
21:49 <RichardMist> Schism|Adagio put virtual memory to SSD for fastest performance
21:52 <Schism|Adagio> Cepheid: I know it's small, but there -is- at least some benefit when it comes to zoning in FFXIV, by my recollection.
21:52 <Cepheid> Heh.
21:53 <Schism|Adagio> I might just be imagining it, of course.
21:53 <Schism|Adagio> And of course, it might be due to any number of other factors.
21:53 <RichardMist> Schism|Adagio you played remake?
21:54 <Cepheid> Still. I do not understand MHWorlds loading. Like, why does it take nearly a minute to load the quest after posting it, and before departing it? How much data is associated with these quests? It's not models and such, as that would be loaded after departure.
21:54 <Cepheid> At least on PC it is much faster. My system, they load in less than a second. I can pretty much depart immediately.
21:55 <Lumindia_> internal server configuration?
21:55 * Lumindia_ shrug
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21:55 <RichardMist> maybe it's a game optimization Cepheid
21:55 <RichardMist> Cepheid
21:55 <RichardMist> hoiiiii PinkieShy! *waves*
21:56 <Cepheid> Hard to say, Lumindia. You are already connected to a server when you post the quest. And the problem persists even in offline mode.
21:56 * Schism|Adagio moves MHW over to the SSD.
21:56 <Lumindia_> yes, but doesn't it need to make a seperate one for the actual hunt itself as opposed to the quest hub?
21:56 <Cepheid> I guess setting up a server on the console could take time, but... Not that much time.
21:57 <RichardMist> I think it's optimization
21:57 <Cepheid> Servers don't take a minute to set up, unless it's like, a heavily modded minecraft server. Even a factorio server with a 2GiB save file doesn't take that long.
21:58 <Cepheid> And putting MHWorld on an SSD on the PS4 does improve it. So it's loading sata.
21:58 <Cepheid> Data*
21:58 <PinkieShy> hihi
21:58 <RichardMist> What about your bandwidth?
21:59 <Schism|Adagio> Ah yes. I'd forgotten that MHW is Anjanath-sized.
21:59 <Cepheid> Meh. It's a moot now.
21:59 <RichardMist> how are you PinkieShy?
21:59 <Cepheid> PC release is an optimized beast nowadays.
21:59 <RichardMist> okie, you're right
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21:59 <Cepheid> I get around 85FPS at 1440p.
22:00 <Cepheid> At near-max settings.
22:00 <Lumindia_> I wish I had money to upgrade
22:00 <RichardMist> I'm talking about world loading
22:01 * Cepheid reads up on SCP-261.
22:01 <RichardMist> Maybe their technology of "world loading" is not optimized
22:02 <Schism> While Capcom traditionally does have a couple of issues with their ports, that's not the case with MHW.
22:03 <Cepheid> Started off as a bad port. But they fixed it up rapidly.
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22:05 *** WildSoft_ is now known as WildSoft
22:05 <Cepheid> Interestingly the repeated the same mistakes with Iceborne. But again, quickly fixed.
22:06 * Cepheid reads the test log for the vending machine.
22:07 <Schism> Oh yes, that's always fun.
22:08 * Schism offers Cepheid a bag of gummy sharks. When opened, they swim through the air, attempting to bite people, but to no particular effect.
22:08 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Poll Results: What is the Best Pony Holiday? [ http://tinyurl.com/y9vaspxp ]
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22:11 * Cepheid grabs one. Noms.
22:12 <Schism> Also, poor, poor Dr. King.
22:14 <Cepheid> I'm surprised he isn't an SCP himself at this point.
22:14 <Schism> That, or an O5. O5-Apple.
22:17 <Schism> 'Dr. King produced request for "a cup of room-temperature superconductor", and received a cup of apple juice with seeds floating in it.'
22:20 <Ali> Sounds like the Amytiville toaster.
22:21 <Schism> You mean how I'm a perfectly normal toaster, I just make people refer to me in this way?
22:22 * Ali shrugs?
22:23 * Lumindia_ puts a waffle into the amityville toaster
22:23 * Ali baps Lumindia_ for that
22:24 <Ali> Dun use waffles
22:26 <Schism> Hey, waffles are delicious. :S
22:27 <Ali> You want a toasted hand instead?
22:27 * Ali flailyhooves
22:27 <Tirek> Dammit fellas. No toasted hands.
22:28 <RichardMist> Ehm... toasted waffle
22:28 <Schism> Hum. I think I shall make grilled tuna sandwiches. Or possibly add some tuna to KD.
22:29 <RichardMist> Sounds like toasted butter
22:33 <Schism> Tuna KD sounds best.
22:34 <Ali> What is the KD part of it Schism?
22:34 <Schism> Kraft Dinner. AKA Mac 'n' cheese.
22:34 <Ali> Oh
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22:38 <Lumindia_> also toasted human hands are yummy
22:38 * Lumindia_ munches on one
22:38 <Lumindia_> I had the munches... I had a craving that only hands could satisfy
22:39 <Lumindia_> munchies*
22:39 <RichardMist> hoiii ChaosMageX-HTPC *waves*
22:39 <RichardMist> nice to meet ya!
22:39 <Schism> Lumiiiiin! That kills people!
22:43 <RichardMist> owie
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22:52 * Cepheid applies the rule of three to a closet lighting cord. Promptly disappears.
22:58 * Schism wonders which rule of three, in particular.
23:01 <Cepheid> It's a cord attached to a light. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out. Pull it three times.
23:04 <Schism> Ah yes.
23:05 * Cepheid takes meds.
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23:08 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Drawfriend - Equestria Girls / Anthro MLP Art Gallery #199 [ http://tinyurl.com/y7ewjp4r ]
23:15 <Lumindia_> https://i.imgur.com/sMLfn7m.jpg
23:16 <Schism> ... yup. https://twitter.com/scottreuwho/status/1263527772728651776
23:20 <RichardMist> heh
23:22 <RichardMist> Schism is that you?
23:22 <Schism> Nyope.
23:22 <RichardMist> okie
23:22 <RichardMist> yeah, pretty interesting idea "subnet mask"
23:22 <Schism> Oh good. Elon and Grimes Musk decided to change their child's name after all. So instead of X Æ A-12, the child's name is instead X Æ A-Xii.
23:27 <RichardMist> now try to say that aloud hehe
23:30 <Sunrise_Flare> xaea-12
23:30 <Sunrise_Flare> xayah
23:30 <Sunrise_Flare> (z)zaya
23:30 <Sunrise_Flare> er
23:30 <Sunrise_Flare> fuck lol
23:30 <Sunrise_Flare> the league of legends character
23:31 <RichardMist> ehm.......................
23:31 <RichardMist> okay......, nice
23:32 * Ali baps Sunrise_Flare, no swears here
23:33 <RichardMist> Ali what a literal hay was that?
23:33 * Ali ponyshrugs
23:34 <RichardMist> o...okay...
23:41 <Sunrise_Flare> oh
23:41 <Sunrise_Flare> didn't know there were no swears
23:41 <Sunrise_Flare> I was trying to come up with a pronunciation for elon's kid's name
23:41 <Sunrise_Flare> xaya is the closest I got
23:42 <RichardMist> maybe hiiya-12 hehe
23:45 <Schism> Typical cat is typical. https://twitter.com/chelsea_cat0218/status/1263774514267033601
23:47 <RichardMist> typical cat is poker face
23:47 <RichardMist> yeh, catz community :>
23:47 <Cepheid> https://i.redd.it/og5xtxn6rw051.gif What.
23:48 <RichardMist> Cepheid this is like typical alien
23:48 <RichardMist> or goverment experiment
23:50 <Schism> Gotta love Gravity Falls.
23:50 <RichardMist> yep, that was nice one
23:50 <RichardMist> in my fav list
23:55 <RichardMist> Bye everypony! *waves*
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