Log archive of EquestriaDaily for Friday, 2020-07-24

00:07 * PrincessRainbows licks Ali's nosie and sits on. Yay, pony ride

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01:08 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Pony Plushie Compilation #418 [ http://tinyurl.com/yy7nqtsu ]

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01:27 <Nedemai> Id share my art, but it keeps getting worse lol

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01:46 <Schism> Pfff.  Ali: https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/571484744542453760/736024169720053830/image0-99.jpg

01:46 <Ali> pfft

01:47 <Finwe> o3o

01:47 * Finwe noms on an Ali.

01:47 <Schism> Also, Ali, have some 'nids.  https://www.moddb.com/groups/warhammer-40k-fans-group/images/cutenids

01:48 <Ali> That's basically gaunts in a nutshell

01:48 <Ali> They're so worthless now its pathetic

01:48 <Finwe> Mesdemoiselles Anderw and was it Jonathan.

01:49 * Finwe doffs his hat towards Cepheid and Schism.

01:50 * Finwe hats on Ali.

01:50 <Schism> Ali: Also. https://funnyjunk.com/channel/warhammer40k/Just+a+few+cute+nids/jdqhLwq/

01:51 * Finwe noms on Ali's W4K installation files.

01:52 <Finwe> Always invest all the points in Piloting: Airspace and Streetwise.

01:53 <Finwe> No need to worry about Gunnery: Mech or Piloting: Mech.

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02:08 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Nightly Discussion #2230 [ http://tinyurl.com/y6gq9pyt ]

02:56 * Schism chants, "A to the L to the EXAnder, gobbies gonna rise up, boom like thunder~"

03:08 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Makenshi: Painter Background Pony Music: Doodled - Fresh Coat [Hip Hop] [ http://tinyurl.com/y3annqha ]

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03:33 * Ali shakes Schism to make her headache go away...

03:35 * Schism now has a headache. And bobbles.

04:00 * PrincessRainbows boops Ali with her pinkie plushie and snuggles

04:00 * Ali snugs, has headache, can do little else.

04:03 * PrincessRainbows offers Ali acetaminophen

04:08 <Schism> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/571484744542453760/736068923069431818/Sadcthulhul.jpg

04:52 <Schism> So, today I learned that Discord has two different arrows for reactions, :this: which is a lighter one, and :that: which is a heavier one.

04:54 <Schism> So, :this: is 18 caret, and :that: is 24 caret.

05:13 * PrincessRainbows also offers the Ali her life size twilight plushie

05:16 * Ali takes the plushie and huggles it tightly.

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05:33 * PrincessRainbows makes silly filly noises and licks Ali all over

05:34 * Ali pats the PrincessRainbows softly.

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05:39 <TwilightSparkle> ...

05:40 * PrincessRainbows rolls over for belly rubs

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05:42 <Ali> Ok, what the heck was that all about.

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07:07 * PrincessRainbows boops Ali and and rolls around

07:09 * Ali brushies the PrincessRainbows

07:10 * PrincessRainbows looks up at Ali. Belly rubs?

07:11 * Ali gives PrincessRainbows belly rubbies

07:12 * PrincessRainbows giggles because silly filly

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07:17 <ConfusionRift> Hello everypony.

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07:34 * PrincessRainbows licks ConfusionRift and jumps around like an excited filly

07:35 * ConfusionRift pets PrincessRainbows. :P

07:36 <Schism> ConfusionRift: Hoi.

07:36 * PrincessRainbows whinnies and boops ConfusionRift with her snoot

07:37 * ConfusionRift wavies.

07:38 * ConfusionRift boops PrincessRainbows and runs around. :P

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07:44 <Finwe> Good forenoon, my perissodactyls of minute stature.

07:45 <ConfusionRift> RAdm. Finwe. (salutes)

07:49 * PrincessRainbows licks Finwe and barks

07:51 <Schism> EeeeEEEeeeesh-sh-sh-kfffffffccccccchhhhhhhclick

07:52 * PrincessRainbows kicks at her ear and curls up under ConfusionRift. Night

07:52 <Finwe> Lt Cdr ConfusionRift, Capt Koopz.

07:52 <Finwe> o7

07:53 <Finwe> Mlles Ali, Filly_Nightmares and PrincessRainbows; Messrs Cepheid, Lumindia and Schism.

07:53 * Finwe doffs his hat.

07:53 * Ali flumps over Finwe and blehs softly.

07:53 * Schism eyebrows. "rAdm. Finwe." She doffs her poutine.

07:54 * Finwe snuggles an Ali.

07:55 <Finwe> I should go to the oifig an phoist to fetch a parcel.

07:56 <Finwe> Mijnheer Bubs.

07:56 * Finwe doffs his hat.

07:58 <Koopz> RAdm. Finwe o7

08:06 <Schism> Hiya, Koopz.

08:06 * Schism puts a Wind-Up Raubahn on Koopz' shoulder.

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08:16 <Koopz> yo

08:16 * Koopz puts a Wind-Up Nanamo on Schism's head

08:22 * Schism peers thereat. "Why is she not on my shoulder?" She's a Mi'qote, after all.

08:53 <ConfusionRift> ...

08:53 <ConfusionRift> Have to build a third Seamoth... nope, moving to something else.

08:54 <Koopz> Nanamo climbs on shoulders?

08:55 <Koopz> when i pull her out she occasionally climbs on my head

08:55 <Koopz> but that's probaby because i'm a smol popoto with too smol shoulders

09:08 <Schism> "While I appreciate your aunthood, and you are adorable and genius and superb.  If you get your nieces and nephews noisy toys, I am afraid that I am contractually required to stab you in the throat."

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09:18 <Schism> "She brought it.  The one army I could never defeat." "This is a BATTLE SONG!"

09:54 * Cepheid graaaghs awake.

09:58 * Finwe hats on Cepheid.

10:00 * Cepheid has head protection from the sun now!

10:17 <ConfusionRift> "Please, help me! I have to continue staring at this, or it could deviate-" | Oooohnooo. I have seen this before!

10:20 <Cepheid> Ah, you found it.

10:21 <Cepheid> My favorite item thus far.

10:25 <Schism> I am still smiling!  However, I have over the course of the last day been subjected to approximately 60,000 sitcoms.

10:26 * Schism shrieks and then she goes to bed.

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10:34 <Cepheid> ...  That was unexpected.

10:34 <Lumindia> me joining was unexpected?

10:34 * Lumindia peeeets

10:34 <Lumindia> peeeeeers*

10:37 <Cepheid> https://i.redd.it/63upl59igqc51.png

10:37 <Cepheid> No, Lumin.  Some commentary from Schism.

10:38 <Cepheid> You appearing was expected.  You're predictable after all.

10:39 <Cepheid> https://i.redd.it/ekahcrd89oc51.jpg

10:40 * Lumindia boops Ceph's snootle

10:45 * Cepheid boops back.

10:46 * Lumindia scrunchymuzzle

10:52 <Cepheid> "We quarantine animals as we don't want them to spread disease to other animals across the United States" - Person on Border Security show.

10:53 <Cepheid> But spreading disease to people across the United States is perfectly fine. o3o

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11:08 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Morning Discussion #2002 [ http://tinyurl.com/y6rccyac ]

11:14 <Cepheid> Gonna do some different exercises today.  I just noticed it last night, but I have extensive bruising on my torso under my arms.

11:15 <Cepheid> I suspect I'm pushing myself too hard.

11:18 <ConfusionRift> Freakin' anchor.

11:20 <Cepheid> Anch- oh, right, pacman cloud that shoots clocks at you.

11:20 <Cepheid> All the clocks.

11:21 <ConfusionRift> Yep.

11:21 <Cepheid> At least the potatoes were edible in the bag of potatoes.  How do you deal with infinite replicating clocks?

11:22 <ConfusionRift> You... don't. It's the reason why they locked the lower point of the Old House. :P

11:22 <Cepheid> Yerp.

11:26 <ConfusionRift> I wonder if the duck actually does something.

11:26 <Lumindia> the duck quacks

11:26 <Lumindia> obv

11:27 <Cepheid> I don't know.  Far as I know, all the items do things, just which ones you get access to or information on..

11:28 <ConfusionRift> It's an altered item, but not an object of power. Still, simply because it doesn't do anything in test, doesn't mean it won't do something later. It's also contained, which means it probably did. :P

11:29 * ConfusionRift quacks at Lumindia 0E 0

11:32 <Cepheid> Mmhmm.

11:33 <Cepheid> As far as I know, if it's in the Panopticon, it's done something.  In fact, you're pretty much caught up to me now.

11:33 <Cepheid> I've been doing at it slowly because I only play it with my mother, which right now is hard to do.

11:33 <Cepheid> Because of my sister only being around for short periods of time, and wanting to visit every relative and friend every.

11:33 <Cepheid> I'm glad we don't live in the US.  My sister would be a walking health risk for me.

11:34 <Cepheid> Extremely extroverted.  She's willing to ignore quarantine regulation to visit friends.

11:34 * ConfusionRift sighs at that.

11:35 <Cepheid> I think she's only spent like, a week and a half worth of her vacation back down here at home.

11:35 <Cepheid> The rest of it's been out and about visiting as many people as possible.

11:37 <Cepheid> I mean, fortunately, the curve has largely been flattened here in Ontario, so compared to Quebec, or other countries, it's relatively safe for her to travel and visit friends and family, but...

11:38 <Cepheid> Doesn't make me happy, though.

11:38 <Cepheid> Besides dumping the dog on me and the family, I don't like a non-zero risk of her bringing back something I'll catch.

11:42 <Lumindia> good thing I have no friends and only go out to go grocery shopping and work

11:42 <Lumindia> ;v;

11:51 <Cepheid> Oh gods my face.

11:53 <Cepheid> https://www.theguardian.com/science/2020/jul/23/wave-of-silence-spread-around-world-during-coronavirus-pandemic?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other I thought things were a bit quieter as of late..

11:55 <Cepheid> https://twitter.com/y_taro1/status/1286626453392482304/photo/1 ConfusionRift, you see this coming at you in Monster Hunter.  What do you do?

11:55 <Nedemai> Id make faces, seems to be effective

11:56 <ConfusionRift> For the love of... of course Twitter is not gonna load!

11:58 <Cepheid> Heh.

12:00 <Cepheid> https://www.reddit.com/r/Whatcouldgowrong/comments/hw9aug/transporting_crabs_inside_a_bag/

12:01 <ConfusionRift> Ooooh... whoops. :P

12:01 <Cepheid> Yerp.

12:04 <Cepheid> Oh nice.  Factorio is adding a blueprint grid functionality.

12:05 <Nedemai> Cepheid, the last one I drew is absolutely :S

12:05 <Cepheid> Show me. :P

12:05 <Nedemai> https://www.deviantart.com/nedemai/art/Flutterguy-Is-that-you-849713554

12:07 <ConfusionRift> Hahahaaaaa!

12:08 * Cepheid goes full Aqua as her headache gets worse just from viewing that. https://www.reddit.com/r/animegifs/comments/adw8t0/mad_aqua_konosuba/

12:08 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Drawfriend - Equestria Girls / Anthro MLP Art Gallery #215 [ http://tinyurl.com/y2ht2hdw ]

12:13 <ConfusionRift> But Aqua is useless. :P

12:14 <Nedemai> I need the be careful laughing so loud at this time in the morning

12:14 <Nedemai> gonna wake the neighbours

12:17 <Cepheid> Indeed she is, but her reactions are the thing of legends apparently, and suitable for any situation.

12:19 <Nedemai> I have watched so so much animation, and you know. AS much as I absolutely adore studios like ghibli and a lot of animation from japan, I wish they'd increase the framerate, ESPECIALLY on ghibli films where the smoother animation would make a lot of sense

12:21 <Nedemai> its so much extra work though

12:24 <ConfusionRift> To me, it's on par with traditional animation, which I'm okay with. Then again, watching some of the restoration of older cartoons I find the increase in framerate to be jarring.

12:24 <Cepheid> Mmhmm.  ~24 fps to 60 fps for current TVs would be an increase of 150% workload.

12:25 <Cepheid> That said I am not actually impressed by Studio Ghibli movies.

12:25 * ConfusionRift shrugs. "Not everyone's cup of tea."

12:26 <Lumindia> I like their artstyle, but I get it's not for everyone

12:27 <Cepheid> And in fact, I am slightly annoyed at Studio Ghibli and it's popularity.  It's mere existence seems to detract from series made by other companies because people insist that somehow, Ghibli's animation style is by default superior.  Partly because of bias.  Partly because of the owner's commentary on modern anime.

12:28 <ConfusionRift> Eeerm... huh?

12:28 <Cepheid> Gimme a moment.  Cat's being a pain.

12:30 <Nedemai> generating frames digitally isn't the same thing, each frame has to be hand animated, and just becauses its recorded at 24fps doesn't mean its animated at 24fps

12:30 <Cepheid> Anyways, Ghibli is constantly expressed as a "standard" that anime should strive for or surpass, to start with.  It's all over Japanese and Western Twitter among artists I follow.  Secondly, Miyazaki has, in the past, been particularly critical of how anime is made these days, which many people treat as gospel.

12:31 <Cepheid> There's also the issue of traditional artwork versus digital artwork approaches.  As if the former is somehow superior.

12:31 <Nedemai> james baxter in adventure time shows right in the show the difference between using more frames for animation

12:32 <Nedemai> traditional artwork is a lot less forgiving, which generally requires more skill

12:32 <Cepheid> This is true.

12:32 <Nedemai> or at the least, patience

12:32 <ConfusionRift> Which I found strange, especially since the animation of James Baxter and the rest didn't match.

12:32 <Cepheid> But digital artwork has it's own issues to deal with.

12:32 <Nedemai> ConfusionRift, it wasn't meant to match, it was meant to show off james baxter

12:32 <ConfusionRift> I know.

12:32 <Nedemai> who is a renowned animator

12:33 <ConfusionRift> I still found it odd.

12:34 <Cepheid> But in any case, I have concerns because, for example, there are some good anime that are done digitally, or enhanced digitally, and yet are treated as inferior in some way, by some people, because it wasn't made in the same way as a Studio Ghibli film.

12:34 <Nedemai> I could easily point out some things with ghibli thats like "why did you do this"

12:34 <Cepheid> Or simply because Miyazaki criticized something about it.

12:34 <Nedemai> those people are sheep and shouldn't art

12:35 <Cepheid> As for me and Ghibli films themselves..

12:35 <Cepheid> While the animation is indeed impressive, most of the films feel like the animation is the only thing keeping them afloat.  The story, music, and other qualities feel like they had very little effort put into them.

12:36 <Nedemai> id argue otherwise

12:36 <Nedemai> I adore some of the stories

12:36 <Cepheid> Mmm.

12:36 <Cepheid> To each their own.

12:36 <Nedemai> Ghibli is meant to evoke emotions and fantasy, its a different genre

12:37 <Nedemai> and it can be very subtle

12:37 <Cepheid> And yet, to me, all it evokes is boredom.

12:37 <Cepheid> I find the stories to be very bland.

12:37 <ConfusionRift> As mentioned before, not everyone's cup of tea.

12:37 <Cepheid> Mmhmm.

12:38 <Cepheid> Currently, the top anime to me is the Made in Abyss anime, and it's movies.

12:39 <Cepheid> Still waiting to see Dawn of the Deep Soul, though.  Was supposed to be out in theatres earlier this year in Canada, but due to lockdown..

12:41 <ConfusionRift> I have my mixes and feelings. Yes, mostly biased, especially since I used to watch their animations since I was a kid. But I do admit, some are a bit... yeah, bland. Nausicaa, Castle in the Sky, and Princess Mononoke being on the very top. And then, you got some that are just passerby in term of story and am left kinda itching, like From up on Poppy Hill.

12:42 <ConfusionRift> Oh, and some others have heavy political views they try to brush into, which... nah, not for me at all.

12:42 <ConfusionRift> And then you got The Grave of the Fireflies... what the hell happened?!

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12:43 <Cepheid> Castle in the Sky is actually the most memorable one.  About the only one I remember the name to, and that's, at this point, all I remember.  The name.

12:43 <ConfusionRift> Do I see it all as a standard? No. Do I like them... mostly? Yes. Should other animators and animations in general follow suit? Hell no!

12:43 <Cepheid> But that may be a biased thing, because it was actually the first Ghibli movie I watched, and I was...

12:43 <Cepheid> Forced.  To watch it.

12:44 <ConfusionRift> See, that changes things.

12:44 <ConfusionRift> No one's gonna enjoy or bother doing so if they're forced to do so.

12:45 <Cepheid> True.

12:45 <ConfusionRift> Either way, it's fine if you don't like it. Know plenty of people who loathe their animations.

12:45 <Cepheid> I won't lie.  The animation is impressive.  It's just... it feels like that's all the films rely on.

12:46 <ConfusionRift> To be honest, that's one of the things that catches my attention the most.

12:46 * Cepheid is getting a headache. Puts on headphones. Am I stupid?

12:46 <ConfusionRift> But I do still grade their story.

12:47 <Lumindia> Nothing wrong with having a unique animation style

12:48 <Cepheid> Of course.

12:48 <Cepheid> But to me, it's just not enough, that's all.

12:48 <Cepheid> You have to balance it with everything else.

12:48 <ConfusionRift> Of course.

12:48 <Cepheid> Wherein is the problem for me.  I feel like Ghibli films are heavily balanced or weighted towards the animation and art.

12:49 <ConfusionRift> It's like my gripe with many of the newer games. This overcompensation of making things look pretty, cool, and awesome, and then the adventure is over in like 4 hours.

12:50 <ConfusionRift> Or everything goes flat real fast,

12:51 <Cepheid> That I'll agree on.

12:52 <Cepheid> More realism, fluidity and the like is nice and all, but if it doesn't match the style(musically, gameplay-wise, story-wise, etc) of the game, it'll fall flat.

12:52 <Cepheid> And my mind was about to segue into an example there, but I won't.

12:53 <ConfusionRift> Oh, Steam is FILLED with these games that come from out of nowhere that fall on that category.

12:53 <Cepheid> Yeah, I was thinking of a more specific style of game that I just don't get.

12:53 <Lumindia> what style of game?

12:53 <Cepheid> Card RPGs.

12:53 <Lumindia> I still don't quite understand the appeal of those, tbh

12:54 <ConfusionRift> Oooh, yeaah.

12:54 <Cepheid> Besides Visual Novels, Card RPGs, or indeed, any type of Card hybrid game, seems to be particularly commonplace.

12:54 <ConfusionRift> Now that you mention it, there's a slew of RPGs that fall on that.

12:54 <Lumindia> they're probably fairly easy to make, I guess?

12:54 <ConfusionRift> And RTSs.

12:54 <Lumindia> I'm not a game dev, so I can't say for certain

12:54 <Cepheid> Oh yeah, they're easy to make.

12:54 <Cepheid> That's why there's so many of them.

12:54 <Lumindia> Real Time Strategy games are... tricky to get right

12:55 <Cepheid> The problems though come in the form of balance and pacing, I find.

12:55 <Lumindia> get it right and you have something like starcraft or age of empires, where everything is viable

12:55 <Lumindia> get it wrong, however ,and it's GLARINGLY obvious

12:55 <Cepheid> Nothing like getting several hands of useless cards, and having to spend time doing **** all.

12:55 <Lumindia> yeah that's my issue with card RPGs

12:55 <Lumindia> I don't like being at the mercy of RNG THAT much

12:55 <Cepheid> But, digital card games seem popular for people, and they are easier to start than actual card games.

12:56 <Cepheid> Especially since some of the real-world card games I've seen are...

12:56 <Lumindia> if I lose a fight in an RPG, I want it to be because I managed my resources poorly or something

12:56 <Cepheid> It takes more time to set them up than it takes to do a reasonable session of D&D.

12:56 <ConfusionRift> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQLDvZK37Gg Ah, found it.

12:56 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.

12:56 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Betty Boop's Snow White 1933  1080p 60fps TEST

12:56 <Lumindia> like, failing to heal before a boss's big ultimate attack or something

12:56 <Cepheid> ConfusionRift, a lot of videos like that have been coming out as of late, thanks to AI.

12:56 <Lumindia> ... jfc that's unsettling

12:57 <Lumindia> if you told me that was some unlockable extra reference in cuphead I'd believe you

12:57 <Cepheid> I think that may have been video run through one of said AIs.

12:57 <ConfusionRift> Check the date.

12:57 <Cepheid> Lately, there's been a lot of work being done on using AI to smooth out animation.

12:58 <Cepheid> There's a question about the date I have.

12:59 <Cepheid> Is that the date the animation itself was made?  If so, was that how the animation was done at the time, that is, high framerate?  Or is the title a case of "Here's a video from 1933 put through an AI for 1080p 60 FPS"?

12:59 <Cepheid> Because that's a thing people have been doing.

12:59 <ConfusionRift> Also, said AI basically just does that thing that "video smoothers" do, which basically just fills the frame gaps. You can see some rubberbanding, which is due to large gaps in frames or when frame don't match as smoothly.

13:00 <Cepheid> Yeah.  But they are getting better.

13:00 <Cepheid> I keep seeing lots of videos about them, doing comparisons.

13:00 <Cepheid> Some have managed to solve the rubber banding issue, among others.

13:01 <Cepheid> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Auum01OEs8k

13:01 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.

13:01 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Turning ANIME to 60 FPS using AI!

13:01 <Cepheid> And as I watch that video you linked, I do get the feel that there's something like that going on.

13:01 <ConfusionRift> Yes, but that comparison video was a year ago, the other was two years ago, a bit before the AI thing.

13:02 <Cepheid> Not to discredit the original animators, because Betty Boop and early Mickey Mouse have been known to be somewhat on the detailed side regarding animation.

13:02 <Cepheid> Fair enough.

13:03 <Cepheid> Though, of note is that the animation you linked is black and white.  I won't say it's a considerable difference in the amount of effort, because black and white has it's own issues of balancing shades and such, but yeah.

13:03 <Cepheid> It would, in effect, probably require a bit less effort to make it super smooth, compared to say, a smooth-shaded animation.

13:05 <Cepheid> And admittedly, you have a fair argument.  First paper I can find on DAIN appears to be 2019.

13:05 <ConfusionRift> One can say it's easier because they're defined cells in black with white contrast, and others have color with thinners cells. Still, I find it interesting, yet a tad jarring. It gets worse with newer animations, where there are points when it looks like the higher framerate count exhibit a mid point between rates.

13:06 <Cepheid> I suspect a lot of it has to do with our eyes being adapted to whatever the current framerate of most TV shows are.

13:06 <Cepheid> Our eyes have adapted to seeing that as somehow "cinematic" or "storylike"

13:06 <ConfusionRift> Like, it looks like it's between the original rate struggling for speed.

13:07 <Cepheid> I'm not quite certain, but I suspect it may be one of those uncanny valley effects.

13:07 <Cepheid> The higher the framerate for animation or video, the weirder it feels.

13:08 <Cepheid> We've long since gone past "60Hz-capable TVs" and yet, movies, TV shows, cartoons and the like are still all played back at something like 29.?? frames/sec.

13:08 * ConfusionRift laughs.

13:08 <Cepheid> As for why the problem doesn't affect us with games, I assume it has to do with input response.

13:09 <Cepheid> Higher framerate, the more it feels like we're in direct, 1:1 control.

13:09 <Cepheid> As the framerate decreases, the movement of the character feels slower and more sluggish, and not quite 1:1 control.

13:09 <Cepheid> And in fact, it can get more sluggish.

13:10 <Cepheid> As games that don't do multiple updates/frame(AKA:  Frameskipping), will only sample the input every frame.

13:10 <ConfusionRift> I have encountered a few games that have no frame limit, in assumption whomever plays them is running them at 60. So when the game starts, it's at the screen refresh rate. Well, I'm sure you know what a game meant to run at 60 throttling to 144 looks like. :P

13:10 <Cepheid> And if the game is running at say, 10 frames a second, that means your controls are only being checked 10 times a second.

13:10 <Cepheid> Oh yeah, I know, ConfusionRift.

13:10 <Cepheid> I know.

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13:11 <Cepheid> Skyrim is, to this day, because of it's constantly ported and re-sold nature, still the most well-known example.

13:11 <Cepheid> If you run it above 60Hz, it freaks out.

13:11 <ConfusionRift> Doesn't it destroy the intro scene?

13:11 <Cepheid> Which leads me to wonder just how many bugs are caused by the game running below 60Hz.

13:11 <Cepheid> Yeah.  The physics engine starts spazzing out.

13:12 <Cepheid> Basically, everything kinda just starts bumping off other stuff and flying into the stratosphere.

13:12 <Cepheid> I'm... not quite sure why it happens, to be honest.  When I think about the possible cause, it brings up my earlier statement.

13:13 <Cepheid> If there are extreme bugs when the physics engine samples more frequently than expected, then why aren't there more extreme bugs when the game doesn't sample *ENOUGH*?

13:14 <Cepheid> The only conclusion I can come to, is that the game compensates at lower framerates by either doubling, tripling updates, or something.  Or, at above 60Hz, it becomes some sort of underflow issue.

13:15 <Cepheid> I can see the problem in my head, but I can't express it.  Fun.

13:15 <Cepheid> But anyways, yes.  Games that link themselves to the framerate are... problematic.

13:15 <Cepheid> Part of why that's such a common setup is because it's the easiest setup.

13:16 <Cepheid> You do one update for one frame.  If it runs too slowly, too bad.  If it runs at the right speed via vsyncing at 60Hz, great.  If it runs too fast via vsyncing at 60+Hz, or without vsync, too bad.

13:16 <Cepheid> The reason for the simplicity is that all you need is to assume 1 update per 1 frame.

13:16 <Cepheid> If you try to account for it, problems start to crop up.

13:18 <Cepheid> Simplest step up is to use some sort of high-frequency clock to track the amount of time that has passed between one game update and the next, call it dt for "delta time".  You pass dt to the update function, and it calculates logic accordingly to how much time has passed since the last update.

13:19 <Cepheid> This has it's own problems.

13:19 <Cepheid> On my laptop, for example, the dt might be 0.00001 seconds.  On my PC, the dt might be 0.0000000001 seconds.  The physics, as a result, will have slightly different results on my PC compared to the laptop.

13:20 <Cepheid> They'll be more accurate on my PC due to smaller delta times between updates, and thus, a greater amount of sampling.  This also causes the CPU to pretty much sit at full load.

13:21 <Cepheid> And if the game slows down too much, the physics will be horribly broken.

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13:21 <Cepheid> Instead of a step of movement of a magnitude of 0.0001 units, it might result in a step of movement of a magnitude of 1.0000

13:22 <ConfusionRift> Ah, finally loaded that pic- NOPE! There were enough problems in MH, without adding some weird abomination that would scare Rathalos.

13:25 <Cepheid> Next step up is to used fixed time deltas.  For example, each update is 1/Nth of a second, where N is usually 60.  A naive implementation checks how long has passed since the last update, and simply performs M updates, where M is usually 1, but can be greater than it, if "catching up" is allowed because rendering took too long.  This solves the problem of running games at a higher refresh rate than expected.  Again, though, it

13:25 <Cepheid> has it's own problems.

13:26 <Cepheid> The biggest being that, if the update rate is not high enough, then things look inconsistent.

13:26 <Cepheid> Doesn't look smooth, basically.  Large jumps between one state and the next, quite visible.

13:26 <Cepheid> Which, we then come to the most complex solution!

13:27 <Cepheid> A fixed update delta, combined with interpolation!

13:28 <Cepheid> Basically, after rendering the current world tick, you update the world again.  Then, when rendering, you render the visible world at some point between the last and next world update, usually by calculating how far along in time you are between the two updates.

13:29 <Cepheid> Since the motion is in discrete steps from one state to the next, interpolation is easy to do.

13:30 <Cepheid> That said, there is a slight issue with it.

13:31 <Cepheid> It depends on knowing the world state one "tick" ahead.  This introduces a slight bit of lag.

13:32 <Cepheid> You have to take the current input, and calculate the state 1/60th of a second ahead of the state being rendered.

13:34 <Cepheid> So you're, in effect, seeing interpolation to a future state that has already been decided.

13:37 <Cepheid> ... Sorry, I didn't mean to go off on a tangent there.

13:37 <ConfusionRift> No worries. :P

13:47 <Cepheid> https://twitter.com/neru_0515/status/1284805693782941696/photo/2

13:49 <ConfusionRift> Haaaah! Man, if they fit, they just take over it. :P

13:49 <ConfusionRift> Blarg, should go to sleep. Laters!

13:50 <Cepheid> G'night!

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13:56 <LibrarianofHope> im going to take days to check my data

13:56 <LibrarianofHope> this 100 gb cache

13:56 <LibrarianofHope> owo

13:56 <Cepheid> https://twitter.com/CARAVAN99858037/status/1286643538281680904/photo/2 I'm not sure what this is.  But these look like something you should be leaving buried.

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14:03 <PinkieShy> hi

14:03 <Cepheid> Yo.

14:08 <Cepheid> How are you this morning, PinkieShy?

14:08 <PinkieShy> I'm ok.. just still not myself.

14:09 <Cepheid> Oh?

14:10 <PinkieShy> Just alot of bad stuff last night from that one game >_>

14:10 <Cepheid> Ah.

14:34 <LibrarianofHope> what game?

14:35 <Cepheid> I'm assuming VRChat.

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15:10 <Tirek> I've kind of wanted to try messing around in VRChat, but the game actually bsoded my pc.

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15:18 <Heartbreak> Screaming!

15:18 <Heartbreak> There's a New Chapter!

15:23 <Cepheid> Whee, implemented a maze generator using Wilson's algorithm.  It's horribly coded, but it works.

15:25 <Cepheid> Oooh, CB posted another video.  AI to beat tetris

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15:41 <Cepheid> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOJfyp0KMmM Warning: Some language

15:41 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.

15:41 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about I Created An A.I. to DESTROY Tetris

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15:44 <Cepheid> Wow.

15:46 <Cepheid> I want to exercise, but I can't.

15:58 <Cepheid> I wonder if I have a fever, because my body is screaming at me right now to lay down.

16:08 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Makenshi: Emotional Pony Music Remix: TCB - Friends Can Change The World (TheEmptyTomb Remix) [Future Bass] [ http://tinyurl.com/y6pdkp7g ]

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16:23 <LibrarianofHope> for once in months im not in pain

16:23 <LibrarianofHope> owo

16:24 <LibrarianofHope> thta proves my idea is correct

16:27 <Cepheid> Hmm?

16:28 <Cepheid> ...

16:28 <Cepheid> I have the dog on the couch with me at my feet.  And Tizzy is at my hips.  The dog is...  Stressed.

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16:47 <LibrarianofHope> seems like a nice dog, very prtoective

16:55 <Schism> ITYM 'neurotic'.  HTH, HAND.

16:57 * Schism awakens! And provides boops to LibrarianofHope and headpats to Cepheid.

16:57 * Cepheid purrs.

16:59 <Schism> Something something good girl.  :3

16:59 * Schism hugs the Cephy.

17:03 * Cepheid is currently just laying down on the couch. She feels super groggy and blah.

17:03 <Schism> It's that sort of day.

17:04 <Cepheid> Yeah.  Lungs be acting up.  Sinuses too.

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17:08 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Abalysis: ♜ Reforming Cozy Glow ♖ [ http://tinyurl.com/y2sd9zxa ]

17:09 <Schism> Egg feels... https://reallifecomics.com/index.php

17:14 <Cepheid> Kay, I have to ask.  Is this based on actual real life?

17:18 <Cepheid> Huh.

17:18 <Schism> Yes.  o.o;  I'm preeeeetty sure that Mae's referencing things verbatim there.

17:21 <Cepheid> When did that happen?  I've been out if the loop as I haven't gotten around to reading Real Life since it started back up.

17:22 <Schism> Ha-- I've been referencing that for three weeks.

17:22 <Schism> She broke out of her eggshell back in 2018.

17:22 <PinkieShy> aaah :D

17:23 <PinkieShy> Cricket now has a phone I've been wanting!!! :DF

17:23 <PinkieShy> Galaxy A11

17:24 <Cepheid> Schism, we all know I am terrible at observation and awareness of what is going on.

17:25 <Cepheid> I mean for heaven's sake, I don't even notice buildings going up in my neighborhood.  I am oblivious to the obvious.

17:25 <Schism> Fair.  I mean, the only reason I know they're actually putting up a building next door is because of all the noise.

17:25 <Schism> Anyway, story begins here.  https://reallifecomics.com/comic.php?comic=june-29-2020

17:26 <Cepheid> Mmm.

17:26 <Cepheid> That said, that tweet is spot on for me.

17:27 <Schism> Yes.  It's broken a lot of eggshells.

17:27 <Schism> I reiterate.  "We... thought you already knew." --ALMOST ALL MY FRIENDS

17:28 <Cepheid> Hell even I said that.

17:28 <Schism> You did!

17:30 <Schism> The only other person who didn't get all the hints I was dropping all over the place like white glowy monster parts was my mom, and she can be excused for it, because unlike me, she didn't have a sensible frame of reference.

17:30 <Cepheid> I just never said anything because my understanding is that people generally don't like having attention drawn to therm for various things.

17:30 <Schism> Oh, I'd probably have denied it outright.

17:30 <Schism> "But no, I'm cis."

17:31 <Cepheid> I'd likely have done the same.  Especially a year or two ago.

17:32 <Schism> And now here we are, smiling because however dark the world is, we've at least figured something out about ourselves.

17:33 <Cepheid> Would have helped me if I wasn't always trying to distract myself from something.

17:34 <Cepheid> For some reason though, my usual distractions don't work anymore.  I've had to think about stuff.  o3o

17:34 * Schism looks up, and only now notices Colgate's statement. "...NickSarv?"

17:34 <Cepheid> Fake user trying to phish.

17:34 <Schism> Cute, even almost clever, but... yeesh.

17:34 <Schism> Yeah.

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17:37 <Cepheid> Man, that series of comics is hitting depressingly close.

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17:39 <Schism> JUST A LITTLE BIT, YES.  "Every birthday cake, every shooting star..."

17:43 <Cepheid> I usually didn't wish at that stuff, but I did at night on a regular basis.  That said, if we look at the biggest thing in my life, we kind of see much more glaring evidence.  Video games.  Especially ones where I can create and name characters, and choose their gender.

17:45 <Schism> Rerolling 25 times in Ragnarok.

17:46 <Cepheid> I have always chosen female characters.  On rare occasion I chose male ones.  Though, I usually, at some point regret that decision.  Something always felt off when I did.  Or considered using a male character.  A sense of "that doesn't seem right" or "that doesn't fit or suit me."

17:47 <PinkieShy> I am seeing this in phones alot lately.. They all have no bezels on them no more and the camera is like a cutout on the screen leaving this o shaped blackhole right there lol

17:48 <Schism> Right next to the blackhole which is the microphone.

17:48 <PinkieShy> Seriously for those with OCD that would take a while to get use to it

17:48 <Cepheid> ... And I had just sent an e-mail to Dell about this...

17:48 <Schism> They finally got your laptop shipped out?

17:48 <Cepheid> Yeah.  It just arrived.

17:49 <Cepheid> I was worried because it was supposed to arrive next Tuesday.

17:49 <Cepheid> And no money had been drawn from the account yet.

17:50 <PinkieShy> I'm getting a break from all the heat today <3

17:50 <PinkieShy> Its raining so heavily outside that its cold and chilly inside :D

17:50 <Schism> Cepheid, I'm imagining you just squeeing and holding that laptop to your chest.

17:50 <Cepheid> Heh.

17:51 <Cepheid> I'm holding off.  Our conversation has my attention at the moment. :P

17:51 * Schism waves her hand. "Go. Unbox it. Immediately install Steam and see how MHW runs on it... after however many hours."

17:51 <Cepheid> Oh, heavens no.  MHWorld won't run on it.

17:51 <Cepheid> No discrete graphics card.

17:52 <Cepheid> I mean, it *MIGHT* run?  At lowest possible settings?

17:52 <Schism> Oh.  Well, still!

17:52 <Cepheid> My dad would prefer I wait, just for giggles as well, so... :P

17:53 <Schism> Well, fine.  :P  Though it is nice of them to finally get it to you so quickly after it finally got out of the warehouse.

17:53 <Cepheid> Mmhmm.  Apparently shipped 3 days ago.

17:53 <Schism> Weren't you worried about--oh right, preauthorization expired and so the bank *looked* like $1800 was missing.

17:54 <Cepheid> No, actually, I misunderstood.

17:54 <Cepheid> The money was still there.  It was never removed.

17:54 <Schism> That's what a preauthorization does... sometimes.  Depending on the bank.  It just sets things aside with a pending hold.

17:54 <Cepheid> The pre-authorized transaction though had disappeared from the records, though.

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17:59 <Schism> About right: https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/571484744542453760/736280218729316372/116003497_1475490129323055_3515958628807400237_o.png?width=637&height=482

18:01 <Cepheid> My 2020 has mostly just been the same as usual.

18:01 <Cepheid> Though I'm almost certain my mental health is being wracked by the constantly-being-indoors thing.

18:01 <Cepheid> I've gone out fewer times this year than even my most reclusive periods.

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18:08 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Comic: Signing Off 44 / Steps to Leaving Home / Romance 3 / Stable Shorts 67 / A(pple)ffection 123 / Workhorse 2-3 [ http://tinyurl.com/y6gnj3rz ]

18:09 * Schism curls up on Ali's head.

18:09 * Ali flops hard.

18:09 * Schism pats, and feeds the Ali some mushroom soup.

18:10 * Cepheid slowly descends into madness.

18:10 <Schism> Cepheid: This right here... https://reallifecomics.com/comic.php?comic=july-13-2020

18:11 <Cepheid> Well, I certainly think about it more frequently than wanting to be a lamp post.

18:11 <Schism> Well, I can see being a certain kind of lamp post.

18:12 <Cepheid> Oh?

18:12 <Schism> Of course.  Any movement would turn me on.

18:12 * Schism shows herself out.

18:12 <Cepheid> ...

18:22 * Ali facehooves

18:30 * Schism snuggles the Ali, anyway. She looks like she needs snugs.

18:32 * Ali nods weakly

18:35 <Cepheid> Screen looks fine, everything appears to be working.  New laptop's good.  Just gotta let it charge now.

18:36 <LibrarianofHope> ali!

18:36 * LibrarianofHope glomps ali

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18:39 <Lunanightwind> Hi ali

18:39 * Ali flumps into LibrarianofHope and Lunanightwind

18:40 <Lunanightwind> Whats up filly scout

18:40 <LibrarianofHope> luna

18:40 <LibrarianofHope> lunaaaaaa

18:40 <Ali> Not my mood sadly

18:41 <Lunanightwind> Im sorry to hear that

18:41 <Lunanightwind> whats up LOH

18:42 <Lunanightwind> Im taking a day away from live streaming and being anti social

18:42 <LibrarianofHope> the ceiling

18:42 <LibrarianofHope> owo

18:42 <Lunanightwind> Lol

18:43 <LibrarianofHope> im going to publish some merchandise

18:43 <LibrarianofHope> need to sale is essential

18:43 <Ali> I've been anti social for like 4 months now..

18:43 <Lunanightwind> Just wanted to reviisit some old friends todat since i dont hop on IRC anymore

18:46 <Lunanightwind> Im sorry you have been so anti social ali you are a good friend and i hate hearing you have been so down

18:46 <LibrarianofHope> cabin fever is hard

18:47 * LibrarianofHope flops on ali

18:47 <Lunanightwind> I know cabin fever is rough, gotta remember ive been doing this whole quarantine thing for 10 years

18:48 <Lunanightwind> Like the virus being added to things is something but this is the same life ive lived for years

18:49 <Cepheid> Hey Luna.

18:49 <Lunanightwind> I think its actually interesting to see how others are dealing with what ove been dealing with

18:50 <Lunanightwind> Hey cepheid

18:50 <Cepheid> How goes it?

18:50 <Schism> I suspect a big part of it for introverts isn't that we have to stay indoors (because most of us are fine with that), but that we can't go out.

18:50 <Cepheid> Yeah.

18:50 <LibrarianofHope> yep

18:50 <Cepheid> The inability to go out when we *HAVE* to because our bodies say "enough is enough" is kinda annoying.

18:50 * Ali nods and curls up.

18:50 <LibrarianofHope> its different to chose to stay in and be forced

18:51 <LibrarianofHope> than be

18:51 <Lunanightwind> Idk like i said its been like this for ten years for me this is minorly difference than having agoraphobia and not being able to go out

18:51 <Cepheid> I've been an introvert all my life.

18:52 <LibrarianofHope> im both, depending on my need at the moment

18:52 <Cepheid> Besides the deafness making it hard to communicate as a child, the drainage from my ears made socializing during the later years of school hard.  Then I didn't go to high school at ALL.

18:52 <Cepheid> And when college came along, I just doubled down because I wasn't aware of how loud the world actually was, and it hit me like a bag of bricks.

18:52 <Schism> Agoraphobia... I can't say I've had.  Now, acrophobia, and social phobias, those are there in spades.

18:52 <LibrarianofHope> acrophobia , fear of acrobats?

18:53 <LibrarianofHope> owo

18:53 * LibrarianofHope juggles in bad jokes

18:53 * Schism puts LibrarianofHope onto a high wire.

18:53 <Lunanightwind> Yeah agorqphobia is what im seeing in everyone, going out can cause bodily harm to you and staying in starts to feel like q prison

18:53 <LibrarianofHope> look mom, no hands!

18:53 <Cepheid> In my case, it's just more a case of "I want a change of scenery for a bit"

18:54 <Lunanightwind> Now if i could type right that would be magical

18:54 <Schism> Luna, I have no issues in being in a large space, unsurrounded by people.

18:54 <LibrarianofHope> i dont mind people

18:54 <Cepheid> Really, the biggest problem for me is that my mind has decided now is a good time to start doing a lot of fun introspection of my own life, history, and other fun stuff.

18:54 <Cepheid> Oh, and a dog.

18:54 <Schism> The dog is the biggest issue.

18:54 <Schism> Thankfully, just one weekend longer and you'll no longer have her terrorizing the cats.

18:54 <Lunanightwind> Schism for me my phobia is both large spaces and small spaces

18:54 <LibrarianofHope> there are two kinds of people

18:55 <Schism> And then you can focus on going through every memory of your life and playing Where's Waldo.

18:55 <Lunanightwind> Outside and in a tight store both equally horrific

18:55 <LibrarianofHope> i began to cry when i thoufht my doggie girl was mad at memowo

18:56 <Lunanightwind> Well i wont stick around long irc isnt my world any more i gotta go back to my normal world it was great seeing you all again

18:57 <Lunanightwind> Ali i hope things get better i worry about tou

18:57 <Lunanightwind> *you

18:59 <Cepheid> Yeah, the dog's basically a massive source of stress for me.

18:59 <Cepheid> Trying my best to manage the stress, but it's getting to me.  I just need to survive one more weekend.

18:59 <Cepheid> Then the next highest entry on the list will hit me, which involves the parents.  But that's a problem for a while from now.  o3o

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19:02 <Cepheid> https://www.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/hx2zkp/two_lynx_in_ontario_have_intense_conversation/

19:08 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Drawfriend Stuff (Pony Art Gallery) #3411 [ http://tinyurl.com/y2u742t6 ]

19:14 <Schism> Cepheid: just realized.  While the dog going away is a net positive, how do you think you'll hold up with your sister out there?

19:16 <Cepheid> That'll be difficult, but we're planning to spend the weekend doing stuff together.

19:16 <Cepheid> I'll try better to keep in touch with her via e-mail and text messages.

19:16 <Cepheid> Regarding other things going on, well, as I told her, in the worst case I have friends and such to talk to.

19:16 <Schism> That does sound good.

19:39 <Schism> Damnit.  Now I want to listen to the best Halo 2 fanfic ever produced again.

19:39 <Schism> s/Halo 2/Halo

19:43 <Cepheid> Red Vs Blue?

19:44 <Schism> Okay, second best.

19:44 <Schism> OUtside of RvB, there is I Love Bees, a radio drama and ARG produced which ... well, the ARG was kind of middling, but the radio drama was fantastic.

19:45 <Schism> Amongst other things, it starred Yuri Lowenthal, who just completely killed it.

19:46 <Cepheid> Ah, yeah.  Yuri's a good actor.  Good for screaming.

19:47 <Schism> There's a fair amount of screaming.

19:47 <Cepheid> My first encounter with Yuri was in .hack//G.U.

19:47 <Schism> But mostly it's about... people.  Living their lives in the Halo universe, and trying not to get killed.

19:47 <Cepheid> Yelling out Skeith's name on a regular basis.

19:47 <Schism> And winding up with a rogue AI, a cybernetic father, a sister who got killed and a lot of other things.

19:48 <Schism> ... wow, we write a lot of dystopic stuff, don't we.

19:48 <Cepheid> You're just figuring this out now?

19:49 <Cepheid> Humanity has a mental health problem overall involving a distressing fascination with it's own destruction.

19:49 <Schism> Same reason a lot of us think about jumping off a bridge, I guess.

19:49 <Cepheid> O.

19:49 <Cepheid> I...

19:50 <Cepheid> Don't think much about that.

19:50 <Schism> "What would it be like?" "Short, exciting, and not conducive to reflection."

19:50 <Cepheid> Or you know, killing myself in stupid ways in general.

19:50 <Schism> Yeah.  My brain just short-circuits the whole idea.

19:50 <Schism> For which I'm incredibly thankful, of course.

19:50 <Cepheid> Doesn't seem to stop other people though.  Couple'a kids jumped off a bridge here in Ottawa a few weeks back.

19:50 <Cepheid> One survived.

19:50 <Schism> Oh criminy.  Did...?

19:51 <Schism> Fuck.

19:51 <Cepheid> They did it as a thrill thing.

19:51 <Cepheid> So it wasn't attempted suicide.  Just stupidity.  A literal case of "If your friends jumped off a bridge would you do it too?"

19:52 <Schism> If I ever get my hands on those channers whose are pushing kids to do things like this, a jury would absolutely convict me, but I would have no regrets.

19:52 <Cepheid> Yep.

19:52 <Cepheid> Or TikTokkers, and other sources of challenges.

19:53 * Cepheid breathes heavily, sighs. "I need to lay down. Exhausted."

19:54 * Starlight_Glimmer sits on Ali. "Cheer up, buttercup!"

19:54 <Schism> Starlight_Glimmer, I hope you realize how closely you approached death.

19:54 <Starlight_Glimmer> ?

19:55 <Schism> If you did that to me, I would have either drawn a knife or taken the nearest bedside table in my hands.  Either way, the resultant mash would have been... homogenous.

19:56 <Starlight_Glimmer> I don't get it

19:56 * LibrarianofHope takes schism up and puts her in the time out room

19:56 * Schism shouts, "It's a bad ideaaaaaa!" *door slam*

19:57 * LibrarianofHope welds the door shut

19:57 <LibrarianofHope> we soend so much on rebuilding

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20:04 <Cepheid> https://i.imgur.com/Q3sFjDT.jpg

20:04 <LibrarianofHope> cute

20:05 <LibrarianofHope> reminds me i need to work on the kitsune protagonasit of some fo my work

20:05 <LibrarianofHope> i need a budget so bad bleh

20:05 <LibrarianofHope> and help probably

20:05 <Schism> That is indeed an adorable fox.

20:06 <LibrarianofHope> i created something like that, Yunai Stei

20:06 <LibrarianofHope> Wildkin Vulpaern Marskman

20:06 <LibrarianofHope> or better sharpshooter

20:06 <LibrarianofHope> gender neutral

20:07 <LibrarianofHope> i havent actually finished creating her

20:07 <Schism> They/Them seems about right.

20:07 <LibrarianofHope> Yunai is a girl

20:07 <LibrarianofHope> identifies as female

20:08 <LibrarianofHope> ill add non binary charcters too

20:08 <LibrarianofHope> and trans

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20:08 <LibrarianofHope> thats defnitly new

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20:09 <LibrarianofHope> what just happened?

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20:11 <Cepheid> No idea.

20:18 * Cepheid does exercise despite saying she wouldn't. Because she's an idiot.

20:21 <Cepheid> A healthy idiot, but an idiot nonetheless.

20:22 <LibrarianofHope> an healthy, achey idiot

20:23 <LibrarianofHope> sorry for the idiot, parroting habit owo

20:27 <Cepheid> Its true though. :P

20:33 <Cepheid> https://i.redd.it/6dbiulzp4uc51.jpg

20:37 <Cepheid> Guh.  Just two sets today.  Better than nothing at all, at least.  I just don't have the energy right now either.

20:48 <Cepheid> Three sets because I'm a moron.

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21:00 <Cepheid> Lunatic.  Fourth set.  Final one.

21:08 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Makenshi: Dashie Music: Aelipse - Racing the Wind [Orchestral] [ http://tinyurl.com/y582ggdk ]

21:33 <Cepheid> https://gfycat.com/impossibleentireichthyostega

21:38 <Cepheid> https://i.redd.it/74kbe1exauc51.jpg

21:40 <Schism> "Watching things blow up is always relaxing."

21:46 <Cepheid> They need to blow something up for Grant Imahara.  Or fire off the Hwacha.  Then blow it up.

21:50 <Cepheid> https://twitter.com/tinolqa/status/1155114090894897153?s=19 For you, Schism.

22:08 <Cepheid> Showertime.

22:16 <Schism> Ow...

22:19 <Schism> By the way, "Jennifer" is now that choice.

22:22 <Schism> Though Schism is okay.

22:38 <Schism> Okay.  Euphoria?  Maybe go away for a little while and stop making me feel like I'm filled with helium.

22:45 * Schism peers at Cepheid. "That shower go all right, Alice?"

22:46 <Cepheid> Mmhmm.

22:47 <Cepheid> Sorry, was quiet because I was poking around on laptop.

22:47 <Cepheid> I need to get this thing set up properly.

22:47 * Cepheid blows away pre-installed Ubuntu, starts up Arch installer. o3o

22:47 <Cepheid> This keyboard though...  Gonna take some getting used to.  Might have to do some custom key remapping.

22:48 <Cepheid> Also, yes, I've decided to go with "Alice."  I wanted to at least keep the "A" in the name, but go with an "L" sound somewhere in it.  Also, it's a simple, short name.  Gonna be a pain to transliterate in Japanese properly, though.

22:52 * Schism ...

22:52 <Schism> Irisu?  <.<

22:54 <Cepheid> Heh.  Tempting.

23:00 <Cepheid> Right.  Lets get Arch on this.

23:02 <LibrarianofHope> arisu

23:02 <LibrarianofHope> thats a good name, ill add it to the pile

23:03 <LibrarianofHope> im really sleepy

23:03 <LibrarianofHope> i more or less succesfully unwound my stressed back, i feel its related

23:09 <Cepheid> I know laptops are getting small, but man.  This is nuts.  Still 13.3 inch screen, but...

23:24 <Lumindia> so as it turns out, if you fall off during the last boss of Sohr Khai, there's no body to raise

23:25 * LibrarianofHope falls asleep on lumindia

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23:30 * Cepheid gets laptop set up. o3o

23:44 <Tirek> Hey guys, I'm drunk off my own mead

23:44 <Tirek> How's it going

23:49 <Schism> Am giggling at a stream of a bunch of authors.

23:58 <Cepheid> At this point, all I need to figure out is how to disable the ALS.

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