Log archive of EquestriaDaily for Saturday, 2020-08-01

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00:13 <Schism> Alice: Screaming at a player on stream to pick up the damned Warp Wire equivalent.  :P  Because you can NEVER HAVE ENOUGH.

00:13 <Alice> Heh.

00:13 <Alice> What game?

00:13 <Schism> Azure Dreams.

00:14 <Schism> Stream's RotoMola's on Twitch.

00:14 <Alice> Ah, right, right.

00:20 * Ali sits on Schism with 19/20 Triforce pieces. "Too bad I know where the last one is..."

00:24 <Nedemai> https://twitter.com/nedemai/status/1289351744250667008

00:34 * Lumindia snugs the Ali pony lots

00:34 * Ali squeaks

00:49 * Nedemai crawls under whatever she can, hides with a book and tea... is just not good.

01:09 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: All the Catchphrases in My Little Pony  [ http://tinyurl.com/y4gulsyc ]

01:29 <Alice> I wonder if it's possible to be allergic to bacteria in ones own mouth.

01:40 <Alice> Research indicates no, but there are bacteria in the mouth, that when breathed in, can cause inflammation, bronchitis and pneumonia.  These are usually dealt with through proper oral hygiene.  Brushing more regularly, flossing, and indeed, using mouthwash.

01:43 <Alice> So ya know what?  If you don't want end up like me with breathing troubles, brush your teeth, floss, and use mouth wash properly.

02:09 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Nightly Discussion #2237 [ http://tinyurl.com/y3b8k92r ]

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02:57 <Ali> Well THAT was anti climatic

03:09 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: <unspecified> [ http://tinyurl.com/y4wk8urn ]

03:52 <Alice> So, I thought that Doom "ouch_m" mod was bad.  Then a friend showed me the fireblu mod.  And now I'm gonna go be sick.

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04:09 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Makenshi: Friendship Music: eksoka - Troposphere ("Wherever We Go" Album Release) [Chillstep] [ http://tinyurl.com/y6gqv8fa ]

04:54 <Divide|Adagio> Hmmmm.  How to alter the timeline to work....

04:56 * Alice gives Schism coffee.

05:09 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Nightly Roundup #1514 [ http://tinyurl.com/y4e5qb3h ]

05:16 <Schism> Alice: Alas.  Need to work in a few hours, so no coffee for me.  But when my brain properly realizes an important plot point, I feel mildly accomplished.

05:17 <Alice> Heh.  Better than me there.  I can miss a plot point screaming in my face.  See:  Persona 5.

05:18 <Schism> I missed that when watching Chaos;Head, so I'm paying slightly more attention this time.

05:19 <Alice> In P5, there's like, three or four of them.  I missed them all.

05:20 <Schism> Do you mind a kind of halfway spoilery statement?

05:21 <Schism> Ah well, tis of no consequence, and you'll probably see it halfway through watching Steins;Gate too.

05:21 <Alice> Don't mind.

05:22 <Schism> Okay, without major plot point spoilers... at some point the protagonists build a machine to measure multiversal diversions.  It always displays a number, a percentage point which they use as a reference for their worldline.

05:22 <Schism> This is perfectly reasonable and a sensible story mechanic.

05:22 <Alice> So a person submitted a picture on Reddit, r/cats specifically.  They were wondering what gender the cat was.  It was a picture of the cats ass.

05:23 <Schism> Alice: Do you see the immediate trouble with that device?

05:23 <Alice> Yes.

05:23 <Schism> Thank you.  X3  Mind, it took me forever to get.

05:25 <Schism> Also, those pictures...

05:25 <Schism> Clearly, the cat's gender is cat.

05:26 <Alice> Yerp.

05:26 <Alice> Or the poster is an asshole.

05:27 <Schism> Or thaaagh.

05:27 * Schism attempts to open a soda can with her thumbnail. "I need to eat more gelatin," she grumbles.

05:29 <Alice> If gelatin is what makes you nails grow more flexible...  Then I want to know what it is I've been eating.  I don't eat much in the way of gelatin, but my nails are super flexible and durable.

05:30 <Schism> Genetics are weird.  Anyway, sleep is what my brain demands, and I am no longer going to ignore her, because in this odd circumstance she knows what's best for me.

05:31 <Alice> Sounds like a plan.  I should do the same.

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05:48 <ConfusionRift> Hello everypony.

05:49 <Alice> Hoi.

06:00 <Alice> How goes it?

06:01 <ConfusionRift> Found my old video files, and just scrolling through them.

06:02 <Alice> Ah.

06:03 <ConfusionRift> ...found my old Fraxy ship.

06:04 <Alice> Not sure if that is good or bad.

06:04 <ConfusionRift> In terms of? o_0

06:06 <ConfusionRift> Just a bit nostalgic is all.

06:06 <ConfusionRift> Besides, it was just a slightly modded and recolored Styx from TF3.

06:07 <Alice> Ah.

06:09 <ConfusionRift> Might just jump back to Control.

06:10 <ConfusionRift> Waiting on my clothes to wash.

06:17 <Alice> So i made a terrible mistake earlier.  Don't watch TAS runs of Doom I or II.

06:18 <ConfusionRift> Guessing seizure warning?

06:19 <Alice> Less seizure warning, more disorienting and motion sickness.

06:19 <ConfusionRift> Call me intrigued. :P

06:20 <Alice> Then a friend of mine had the audacity to mention a particular mod, which IS seizure inducing, along with disorienting and full of motion sickness.

06:20 <ConfusionRift> I think I know which you're talking about.

06:20 <Alice> !link https://youtu.be/8QHH6ODnRTA TAS run of Doom II.

06:20 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.

06:20 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Doom II: Hell on Earth - Nightmare! in 12:44 [TAS]

06:20 <Alice> Not the ouch face one.

06:21 <Alice> This one is worse.

06:23 <ConfusionRift> Oooh, it's a texture effect overlay... an awful one at that.

06:24 <Alice> It's hard on my brain.  Even the ouch mod didn't hit my head that bad.

06:24 <Alice> The speedrun though..

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06:24 <ConfusionRift> the original textures are there, but they are covered by a moving texture. The problem is that is really gives that sense of motion, even without it.

06:25 <ConfusionRift> And the radiation suit basically blinds you. Nice. :P

06:25 <Alice> Yeah.  And the strobing effect is...  Ow.

06:26 <ConfusionRift> Yeah, enough of that.

06:26 <ConfusionRift> Gonna check this TAS thing. :P

06:26 <ConfusionRift> "Gotta blast!!!"

06:27 <Alice> It's chaos.

06:28 <Alice> Up to and including going T2 on some "gates"

06:29 <ConfusionRift> And then he rocket jumps off a wall and you lose track of him completely.

06:31 <Alice> Yep.

06:31 <ConfusionRift> Oh yeah, and diagonal movement is faster than straight by a few frames, hence why he does it all the time.

06:31 <ConfusionRift> Aside from abusing the hitboxes for clipping. :P

06:32 <Alice> You can see why I mentioned motion sickness.  Movement is fine, but those rotations are MMMMMMmmm!  Nauseating.

06:35 * Ali flops over the ConfusionRift

06:37 <ConfusionRift> I think videogames have conditioned me to this kind of things. They don't do much. All I can say is "GOTTA GO FAAAST!!!". :P

06:37 * ConfusionRift patpats the Ali.

06:38 <Ali> I had the most random ending to an OoTR run

06:39 <Ali> Had Triforce hunt on, and thought I knew where all the pieces were

06:39 <Ali> Then suddenly I randomly found the 20th pieces

06:39 <Alice> A part of me wants to make a game designed for speedruns.  Every time a glitch is found, I archive the current version, fix the bug, and release the fixed version.  See which side gives up first, the TAS side or me.

06:47 <ConfusionRift> I would like to add some form of easter eggs or secret that adds up to the game, but is something that is incredibly difficult to get to, almost left to chance. If they do find it, aside from [redacted], they should be rewarded meaningfully for their efforts. Alas, I know it would just get cheated or exploited. Oh yeah, and leaving a massive middle finger for cheating. :P

06:48 <Ali> like being about to TP into the dev room

06:49 <ConfusionRift> Something like that. Very left field, but has its meaning.

06:55 * ConfusionRift sighs. "Just need more free time to do this sort of thing."

07:05 * Ali gives ConfusionRift all her free time. "I have too much of it...not to my choice mind you."

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08:00 * PrincessRainbows hugs ConfusionRift and licks

08:01 * ConfusionRift huggles PrincessRainbows and pets. :P

08:10 * ConfusionRift also huggles Ali.

08:14 * PrincessRainbows sits on ConfusionRift and yays

08:18 * Ali nuzzles under the ConfusionRift and PrincessRainbows

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11:09 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Morning Discussion #2010 [ http://tinyurl.com/y4xjq95h ]

11:11 * Lumindia snuggles the Jackie lots

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12:50 <Lumindia> y'all are good beans

12:50 <Lumindia> o vo

12:58 * Schism awakens. Issa tired fox. Also, giggles hereat. https://twitter.com/darkeyed_junco/status/1289362606247956480

13:02 * Lumindia patpats the Foxxo

13:02 * Lumindia snuggle

13:02 * Schism snugs Lumindia right back!

13:05 * Lumindia offers Schism some Italian ice

13:05 <Lumindia> it's warm here

13:10 * Schism noms upon the lemon ice, and offers Lumindia an ice cream sandwich in turn.

13:11 * Lumindia nomfs

13:12 <Schism> Pff.  Banning ByteDance's social media app in the US... okay, I can see the FCC doing it due to predatory practices.  But doing it for all the wrong reasons...

13:21 <Lumindia> as much as this pandemic sucks, one good thing about it is that I don't have to worry about having enough money for groceries

13:21 <Lumindia> My workplace is still open, and since I'm on SNAP EBT, I'm getting massively increased benefits for it

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14:43 <Heartbreak> Lumindia: What's happening?

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16:09 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Makenshi: Changeling Fanfic Music: Seven Ponies - Brought To Life [Drum & Bass] [ http://tinyurl.com/y59co7nw ]

16:12 <Alice> Morning.

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16:34 * Lumindia wave

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17:05 <Alice> How goes it?

17:09 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Episode Rewatch - MLP Season 4 Episode 3-4 - Castle Mane-ia / Daring Don't [ http://tinyurl.com/y373b5tm ]

17:11 <Lumindia> eh, fine

17:20 <Alice> Heh.  Same.  Working on trying to figure out how to counteract the side effects of the propranolol.  Does the job with dealing with my headaches and their side effects other than pain(Profuse sweating, vision changes, dizziness, nausea, etc.), but at the cost of extensive grogginess.

17:24 <Alice> Hum.  I just realized that my current game engine, that little 2D one, even without slopes, is sufficient to replicate a style of game.

17:25 <Alice> I can make a megaman-style game.

17:33 <Schism> Yrf.

17:33 * Schism flops in over her break.

17:37 <Schism> "I'm never shopping here again." "That's unfortunate, miss 'I only bought this pair of shoes because they were $17'."

17:38 <Alice> Heh.

17:38 <Alice> What you want to say, I assume?

17:38 <Schism> Every time someone makes that sort of statement.  Or says, "I'm going to report you to the better business bureau!"

17:40 <Alice> Heh.

17:45 <Schism> 'Haven't you heard that the customer is always right?' 'Sure.  You're not right, so you're not a customer.  Seems to fit.'

17:45 * Schism flops back to work.

18:04 <Alice> ...

18:04 <Alice> Okay Lifelabs, why did you screw up all 3 of my sputum tests?

18:29 <Alice> Oh my gods my face ow help ow ow ow.

18:51 <Lumindia> o.o

18:51 <Lumindia> the frick happened?

18:54 <Alice> I have a bad sinus infection right now.

18:54 <Alice> It's causing excrutiating sinus headaches which are working through all painkillers I have on hand.

18:54 <Alice> Like, the pain is so bad that I'm twitching, sweating profusely, and having to keep one eye closed to see properly.

18:56 <Lumindia> oh, massive pressure behind one of your eyes?

18:57 <Nedemai> https://twitter.com/nedemai/status/1289633378195529728

18:58 <Nedemai> Alice, I wish I could do something to help you

18:59 <Alice> Part of it, Lumindia.

19:00 <Alice> https://i.imgur.com/SZdYVtB.jpg So, here's a picture of my left eye.  Yeah, it looks like the right eye, but the camera mirrors the picture for some reason along the horizontal axis.  Why'd I take a picture of my eye?  Someone didn't believe me about my eye color.  Anyways...

19:00 <Alice> You see along the right-hand side of the picture, the discoloration?

19:01 <Lumindia> not gonna lie, that's kind of unsettling. xD

19:01 <Lumindia> oh, that pinkish area right below the eye to the right?

19:02 <Nedemai> you can see specs of brown spots.

19:02 <Nedemai> which, isn't really normal

19:02 <Alice> The brown spots are freckles.  I'm talking about the purple/pinkish area, yeah.

19:02 <Nedemai> yea

19:02 <Alice> That's bruising from the chronic sinus infection I have.

19:02 <Lumindia> D:

19:02 <Nedemai> the inside of the eye is swollen and red

19:02 <Alice> That's when it's minor.

19:03 <Alice> Right now, that area is more blackish and deep purple.  And more visible.

19:03 <Nedemai> eep

19:03 <Alice> Because for one reason or another, the infection got worse.  Usually that happens because I got sick with something else, like bronchitis, pneumonia, a cold or something.

19:04 <Alice> Which is why I'm also getting the headaches despite my treatments.

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19:04 * Nedemai curls up beside the Ali

19:04 * Ali huggles the Nedemai

19:04 <Nedemai> :3

19:04 <Nedemai> Alice, so how did they mess up the tests?

19:05 * Lumindia patpats Ali lots

19:05 <Alice> Well, according to two tests, the lab was supposed to be supplied with an empty container along with the sample container I provided.  They didn't tell me this, and as such, for some damned reason, the lab couldn't do any testing on the samples.

19:07 <Nedemai> thats gotta be extremely frustrating

19:07 <Alice> I'm gonna have to call up my doctor to get another requisition form, as a result.

19:07 <Alice> I'll do it on Tuesday.

19:09 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Comic: Chef Rarity / Wedding / Lingua Blanca / Meta / Regiment / New Beginnings 47-49 [ http://tinyurl.com/yyzljd26 ]

19:09 <Alice> Lumindia:  Also, the picture's unsettling because A)  It's one eye, and B)  I have the eye wide open.

19:10 <Alice> As in, I was physically working to keep the eye wide open.  If I took a picture of my eye in a rested state, it'd look more like I was drowsy or sleepy.

19:10 <Schism> Whose eyes are those eyes...

19:10 * Schism flops in over lunch.

19:10 <Alice> In that picture?

19:10 <Alice> Mine. :P

19:10 <Schism> No, no.  >.>;  Not quite what I meant.

19:10 <Alice> Ah.

19:11 * Schism boops Alice with an equation. 'fun^10*int^40=ir2'.

19:11 <Schism> This is an important equation.  o3o

19:11 <Alice> Except it is meaningless to me.

19:12 <Alice> I do not know what "fun" is, nor "int", and what the variables(?) i and r refer to.

19:12 <Alice> I assume the 2 is standard multiplication by 2.

19:13 <Schism> It is meaningless outside of the context of Chaos;Head and Steins;Gate.

19:13 <Alice> I'd go so far as to say it's just gibberish created by a writer/artist who doesn't have a math background.

19:14 <Schism> That would probably be the case, except that the writers did a lot of research on this series.

19:14 <Alice> Heh.

19:15 <Schism> Even putting aside the random references to events like a certain 1921 explosion in the Ukraine, there's a lot of information about time travel and parallel universes and the like.

19:15 <Alice> But yeah, in that picture, those brown spots are just freckles.  Lots and lots of them.  Covered in the danged things, just like I'm covered in unecessary body hair.

19:16 <Schism> Bet you don't tan either.  :P

19:16 <Alice> I don't, know.

19:16 <Alice> I just go from "white as a ghost" to "beet red"

19:16 <Alice> No in between.

19:17 <Schism> Yerp.

19:18 <Alice> Granted, I also generally don't go tanning in the first place, which as I understand, A)  Involves using suntan lotion to alleviate the UV rays for tanning in general, and B)  Involves not going out on the worst possible days with respect to UV light.

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19:22 <Alice> In any case, now you know one of the many reasons I want to wear makeup.  Want to cover up all that bruising.

19:22 * Schism nods.

19:28 * Ali sits on the Schism

19:28 * Schism boops the Ali with an ice cream cone, and provides snuggles.

19:30 <Alice> You know, MMX4, it's a good game, gameplay wise.  The issue people have with it was the story.  But it makes me wonder a bit.

19:31 <Alice> The PSX was during that nebulous era were translations were...

19:31 <Alice> Not the best.

19:31 <Alice> It makes me wonder if, were Capcom to re-translate many of their old games, if the stories would come across better, these days.

19:34 <Alice> The basic problems of translation come from two areas.  1)  Cultural issues.  Namely, jokes in culture A don't work in culture B, especially if B does not have a shared history or culture with A in any way, shape or form.  2)  Screen limitations.

19:36 <Alice> Essentially, the density of say, Japanese, is somewhat higher than English in quite a few cases.  As a result, sometimes the translated line simply no longer fits on the screen.  And if multiple lines are needed on screen at the same time to create some sort of emotional response, well, you're boned.

19:36 <Nedemai> I've never played MMX4..  own MMX

19:37 <Alice> There's also programming considerations, as well, unfortunately.

19:37 <Alice> Kanji, Katakana, and Hiragana are, invariably, square in glyph area shape.  And the square is the same size for each glyph.

19:38 <Alice> So you can calculate exactly how many characters will fit on screen at any given font size.

19:38 <Schism> I suspect that if they ever re-release MM8, Capcom will possibly take the opportunity to pick different VAs.

19:39 <Alice> The Alphabet of English, and indeed many other languages, is variable in size.  Height of each glyph is less of an issue, because the increment from one baseline to another is static.

19:39 <Alice> Width, however, is variable.

19:39 * Schism ahems, "Re-translate it, that is."

19:40 <Alice> That is, you can fit many more uppercase 'i's and lowercase 'L's in a line than say, 'w'.

19:41 <Alice> So it's harder to calculate how many characters will fit on a given line.  If you do a bit of work, you can do some precalculations, then tweak the text based on that.

19:41 <Alice> But there's another program, one hidden from gamers.

19:41 <Alice> Er, problem*

19:41 <Alice> The text boxes may still be limited to however many Japanese characters can fit on screen. o3o

19:42 <Alice> Meaning, you have to work with text constraints within that limit.

19:43 <Alice> This can result in oddities, such as lines or paragraphs being broken up in weird places, or even weirder, highly dense English text using only a fraction of the text box.

19:43 <Alice> The latter is extremely common.  Disgaea suffers from it, as a whole.

19:44 <Alice> In any case, it results in what appears to be lazy programming.  That is, programmers don't increase the limits, etc.

19:44 <Alice> The reason they don't is because variable width fonts are a pain in the arse.

19:45 <Alice> Especially when you factor in kerning, transformations such as italics, bold, strikeout, underline, and so on.

19:45 <Ali> But what are you fighting foooooooooor

19:45 <Ali> Schism, megaman 8 will never be updated

19:46 <Ali> Due to copyright infringement man

19:46 * Schism headtilts. "Surely not Duo?"

19:46 <Ali> Duo is not a Wily bot

19:47 <Ali> And Bass in that game delivers the weakest shut up in history.

19:47 <Alice> What's the copyright infringement issue?

19:47 <Ali> Aqua Man

19:47 <Ali> But you can call him handsome guy

19:48 <Alice> Ah, name.

19:48 <Alice> There are other ways to translate the name.

19:50 <Alice> Though in this case, it's kinda tricky since the Japanese name romanizes to "Akuaman"

19:50 <Alice> So it's literally meant to be "Aqua Man" in English.

19:50 <Ali> Also you can't fix Megaman 8

19:50 <Ali> Then what will we do with our Doctah Wahwee jokes?

19:53 <Alice> Admittedly, yes, people would have issues with the voices being changed to avoid those issues.

19:53 <Schism> "Everlasting peace, yo." --Quintet

19:55 <Alice> That said, these days, it's not exactly an issue to include both the original text and vocals, and a second set of text and vocals for a retranslation effort.  Though, on a legal front there may be issues with regards to the rights to use the original vocals again.

19:55 <Alice> And of course, the programming issue.

19:56 <Ali> Like Megaman and Megaman X both sounding like an eight year old

19:56 * Ali shutters

19:56 <Ali> Take the X from Command Mission, that one fix X a lot better.

19:58 <Alice> Did they have a high pitched voice in the Japanese versions of their respective games?  Because it seems to me like Capcom may have tried to match the voices as best as possible, without much thought into how Western audiences might interpret it.

19:59 <Ali> I don't know if 8 or X4 had Jap audio in it

19:59 <Alice> Yeah, but you can always listen to clips and playthroughs of the Japanese versions.  Let's see..

20:00 <Alice> In 8, Megaman's voice is definitely high pitched, like a child's voice.

20:01 <Alice> ...

20:01 <Schism> And Dr. Wight's voice?

20:01 <Alice> Meanwhile, in the Japanese version of X4, X has a deeper voice than the English version of X4.  As in, he sounds more like a late teen to mid 20s person.

20:01 <Schism> Huh.

20:02 <Alice> https://youtu.be/GD9SWB9P1Ys?t=249

20:02 <Ali> Don't you mean Dr. Right Schism

20:02 <Schism> Dunno, who can even tell...

20:02 <Ali> Light is the US name

20:03 <Alice> Megaman's English voice in MM8 actually sounds relatively close to his Japanese voice.

20:04 <Schism> This comic makes perfect sense to Megaman/Rockman fans, and absolutely no sense to anyone else.  http://www.bobandgeorge.com/archives/021116c

20:04 <Alice> As for the Dr. Light/Right thing, that's... hard to figure out to be honest.

20:05 <Alice> The problem stems from the fact that the R and L sounds are treated as the same in Japanese, to the point that when transliterating/romanizing the ra, ri, ru, re, ro sounds, they an be either ra, ri, ru, re, ro, or la, li, lu, le, lo.

20:05 <Ali> Schism, perfect.

20:06 <Ali> But how did they go from Rock and Roll to Megaman and Roll?

20:06 <Ali> And Blues to Protoman

20:06 * Ali bleps

20:06 <Schism> Superhero names?  o3o;

20:06 <Alice> If I had to guess?

20:07 <Alice> They probably thought that Rock/Rockman and Blues sounded weird in English.

20:07 <Alice> Though they really did miss the chance for the Rock and Roll joke.

20:07 <Alice> The only one who really knows are the translators, and the executive producer of the series.

20:07 <Alice> As they generally have the final say on English names.

20:08 <Schism> At least they kept Bass and Treble.  Oh wait, no they didn't, because their names are Forte and Gospel...

20:08 * Schism shrugs, and heads back to her work. "Bleh."

20:08 <Alice> I'm actually kind of surprised "Gospel" got past the censorship.

20:08 <Alice> It has a religious connotation.

20:09 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Everything Wrong With The Mane Attraction in 5 Minutes or Less [ http://tinyurl.com/y5k4ybu9 ]

20:11 <Alice> In any case, I think we can all agree that translation is a finicky process, fraught with perils, be it in vocals, text translation, name choice, and programming.

20:13 <Alice> Guh.  Headache is slowly subsiding.  Too slowly.

20:13 <Alice> I took medicine for it back at... 1:30 PM or so.  It's now 4:13 PM, and I'm STILL FEELING IT.

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22:24 * Schism takes her last break.

22:26 <Schism> What th--

22:26 * Ali uses Schism as a cuddling device.

22:26 * Lumindia snuggles Ali and Schism LOTS

22:26 <Lumindia> Yer both very loveable

22:26 <Lumindia> ♥♥

22:26 * Schism attempts to record her voice. Blinks. "That's..." She seems to have somehow managed something...

22:30 * Schism snuggles both the Ali and the Lumin!

22:32 <Lumindia> you'r eboth good beans!

22:34 <Schism> As are you!

22:36 <Lumindia> <3

22:37 * Lumindia gives Schism a quiick kiss on the cheek! ♥♥

22:37 * Schism aws, and rubs Lumin's ears. And then, alas, returns to work!

22:37 <Lumindia> = w=

22:38 <Lumindia> be well

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22:43 * Alice flops. Is warm.

22:43 <Alice> I need to start working on my own voice.

22:53 * Schism blinks. "Okay! They didn't want me to hang around when there was 20 minutes between chats, so that's fair."

22:54 * PinkieShy nomfs on Pocky

22:55 <Alice> Hmm?

22:55 <Schism> Alice: MTO'd.

22:56 <Alice> Ah.

22:56 <Schism> Ali: This seems to be the proper relationship between Bass and Wily.  http://www.bobandgeorge.com/archives/021219c

22:57 <Schism> Well, rather, Forte and Wily.

22:57 <Ali> Pretty much accurate

22:58 * PinkieShy offers Ali some Pocky

22:58 <Ali> Either that or Bass is always backstabbing Wily for some reason or another to try and 'prove' himself.

22:58 * Ali icks and nopes, but hugs PinkieShy

23:06 <Schism> How to play the card game.  https://deviating.net/stuff/mask_card/

23:07 <Schism> (Note, slightly NSFW.)

23:07 <Schism> (Sorry, I didn't notice that until after.)

23:09 * Ali licks the Schism nosie

23:09 * PinkieShy puts his desk chair back and sips on some cinnamon apple spice hibiscus tea

23:09 * Schism provides Ali with some lemon ice!

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23:11 <Alice> Heh.

23:11 <Alice> Speaking of Dr. Light from Megaman..

23:11 <Alice> I just learned a cute detail.

23:12 <Alice> His counterpart in the Megaman Battle Network series is named Tadashi Hikari.  Tadashi is the Japanese adjective "right."  While Hikari is the japanese noun "light."

23:13 <Schism> That's... remarkably clever.

23:13 <Alice> Indeed.

23:13 <Lumindia> right light, then?

23:13 <Lumindia> nifty

23:13 <Alice> Mmhmm.  The detail though is that Dr. Light's name is written as Dr. Right in the Japanese versions of Megaman, due to the lack of differentiation between L and R in Japanese.

23:13 * Jackie flop

23:14 <Alice> Thus, the name references both spellings of his name.

23:14 <Schism> Wonder if there was ever a Megaman villain named Yoru.

23:14 <Schism> Well, Rockman.

23:15 * Lumindia hugs Jackie, pulls into the snuggle pile

23:15 * Lumindia also pulls Alice in as well

23:15 <Lumindia> :D

23:15 * Jackie purrs

23:15 * Alice hugs back

23:16 <Lumindia> all the cute(minus ali) ponies

23:16 <Lumindia> as Ali is not cute

23:17 <Jackie> (Ali)ce

23:17 <Schism> Of course.  Ali is explicitly not cute, as she has said time and again.  

23:17 <Schism> Jackie: Nope, Alice is an entirely different girl.

23:17 <Jackie> Does anyone here play AI Dungeon

23:18 <Lumindia> Alice is Alice

23:18 <Lumindia> Ali is Ali

23:18 <Lumindia> they are both good pones

23:19 <Alice> Please, keep saying my name. :P

23:19 <Lumindia> I know if I say it one more time I'll summon you

23:19 <Lumindia> '-'

23:20 <Lumindia> I know how this works

23:20 <Alice> Heh. :P

23:20 * Jackie pets Lumindia

23:20 * Lumindia wiggles

23:20 <Lumindia> = w=

23:20 <Alice> More it was just that it feels good when others call me that.  :3

23:22 <Schism> Mmm, delicious euphoria.

23:22 * Schism snugs the Alice. :>

23:22 * Jackie fluffs up Lumindia

23:22 * Alice squirms and fidgets. >3<

23:23 <Schism> I'm one of those weirdos who doesn't mind her old name, or even the old nicknames she's chosen.  Plus, names like Schism and Theogrin are just weird enough that they fit either gender.  After all, Sombra is both a crystal-hungry umbral pony and a sexy hacker nonpareil.

23:25 <Alice> Cepheid could be considered gender neutral, as well.  That said, my current, official name, I don't like it because... Hmm.  It's hard to explain.  THe primary reason is something about it just doesn't feel right.  One of the secondary reasons though is the religious association.

23:26 <Alice> Though, my parents explicitly have stated that the religious association was a fluke.  They chose my name because at the time, it was commonplace, and just sounded suitable.

23:26 <Schism> Alice: There is another concern there.

23:26 <Alice> Hmm?

23:26 <Schism> Andrew derives from andro.

23:26 <Schism> Which, well.  Makes it singularly ironic.

23:27 * Schism gives Alice another hug. "Bleh."

23:27 <Alice> Aaaand on top of that, from quick research, the etymology implies it's derived from words meaning "manly" and "man"

23:28 <Schism> Thaaaat's what I meant.

23:28 * Alice sighs. That's a hell of a coincidence, isn't it?

23:28 <Schism> Not that unique, but... yeesh.

23:29 <Alice> Meanwhile, let's check out the etymology for Alice.  Let's see why if there's a subconscious reason for liking this name more than usual.

23:29 <Schism> Oh, you'll like this.

23:29 <Alice> Heh.

23:29 <Schism> Aletheia.

23:30 <Alice> Well, I can confirm one reason why I liked the name, now.  A part of me kept telling me I hear the name a lot, and it's familiar.  Well, yeah.  It's used in cryptology.

23:30 <Alice> Alice & Bob.

23:30 <Schism> That undoubtedly has a part to play in it!

23:31 <Alice> ... And it's an anagram of the name of one of my good friends.

23:31 <Schism> Aletheia also means 'Truth', which may have been a reason why it's used in cryptology examples.

23:31 <Alice> One of the two I mention on occasion to you, Schism.

23:31 <Schism> Celia?

23:31 <Alice> Mmhmm.

23:32 * Schism nodnods.

23:32 <Alice> That said, it's also a common name in video games.  So overall, I see it everywhere.

23:33 <Alice> That said, the prime reasons I took it is that it has a lot of common traits with my deadname.  Two syllables.  Starts with the letter A.  Includes a consonant which makes transliteration to and from Japanese a pain.

23:33 <Alice> And I prefer the "L" sound over an "R" sound.

23:35 <Schism> My own choices are... somewhat similar.  Jennifer seems to work, while having some similarities to my old name.  And Kayla is just a feminization of the middle name.  Could've just gone with Kyla, but that seems a bit much.

23:37 * Lumindia is fluffed up

23:38 <Lumindia> Alice is pretty easy to spell in japanese, isn't it? A-ri-su?

23:38 <Schism> Or Irisu.  o3o

23:38 <Schism> I should give my mom a call.  She's probably wondering how I'm doing.

23:39 * Ali just huggles on Schism, unicorn is a bit sads.

23:48 <Alice> Schism, if you go with Kayla, I'm gonna have to disown you.  :P

23:48 <Alice> I already know at least two other Kaylas, and both of them are relatives.

23:48 <PinkieShy> o_o

23:48 <PinkieShy> We had the TV set to Weather channel and the tv just says 'this channel is currently offline'

23:49 <Alice> It happens.

23:49 <Alice> Bad signals.

23:49 <Jackie> Suplex

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23:50 <Schism> Alice, that is my middle name.

23:50 <Alice> I know, I know.  I'm just being silly. :P

23:50 <Alice> Also, Kyla, I actually know someone named that.

23:51 <Alice> Biggest issue with it is people not being able to spell it right, according to her.

23:51 <Alice> Or pronounce it correctly when reading it.

23:51 <Alice> The most common mispronunciation being to treat "Ky" as "Key"

23:52 * Schism finishes a conversation with her mom. Lets out a slow, drawn breath, then a light, shaky laugh.

23:53 <Alice> Everything okay?

23:53 <Schism> She hasn't flipped that switch yet.  I know.  It's hard.

23:53 <Alice> Mmhmm.

23:53 <Alice> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EeUBcxKUcAUzi1q?format=jpg&name=4096x4096

23:54 <Alice> This is how I imagined you reacted when you first realize it.  Especially when you first wanted to talk to me about it.

23:54 <Schism> Heh.  Zach, Zach has an excuse.  He doesn't know Cheryl's name yet.

23:55 * Schism sighs. "I guess it's also possible that my mother doesn't want my grandfather to overhear, either."

23:56 <Alice> My sister and mother don't know my new name just yet, on the grounds that I doubt they'd even use it anyways, so long as my dad doesn't know.

23:57 <Schism> She pointedly avoided using my old name throughout the conversation.  So that's good.

23:58 <Schism> Why am I trying to raise my voice in full steps instead of half steps?

23:59 <Alice> No idea.  That said I really should start on that.  Will wait until Tuesday at the earliest, though.

23:59 <Alice> My dad was off all week, as he used his vacation time.  He goes back to work on Tuesday, though.

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