00:46 <Lumindia> when you learn that someone you've known for a while was actually male when you thought they were female
00:46 <Lumindia> and they're UPSET you're not shocked
00:46 <Lumindia> had that with an FC member
00:47 <Lumindia> I mean, I was a bit surprised, but after having been on the internet, it's like "Oh, you're a dude. K."
00:47 <Schism> Lumin: Hehe. Had a bit of experience with gender weirdness of late too.
00:48 <Lumindia> but yeah, they went "GOD DAMMIT Why is no one shocked I'm a dude?"
00:48 <Schism> Heehee.
00:48 * Schism sighs, then scuppers back off to work.
00:48 <Lumindia> didn't say it, but I was like "My default is 'you're a guy until proved otherwise'
00:56 * PrincessRainbows whimpers and grabby hooves at Ali
00:56 * Ali scoops up PrincessRainbows and hugs
00:56 <Nedemai> *shrugs* for what I've put myself through something like that isn't gonna surprise me
00:59 <PrincessRainbows> I don't really care anyway, everyone is deluded anyway
01:09 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Griffons and Hippogriffs Day - 3 Days Away! [ http://tinyurl.com/yyso9wms ]
01:31 <Alice> These days I just prefer to to with gender-neutral pronouns until they request I use other terms. I've learned that basing gender, gender identity, and the like on behavior and mannerisms doesn't work as well as it used to.
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01:42 <Alice> https://i.redd.it/iv2sp6v68gg51.jpg DMing.
01:53 <Alice> https://i.redd.it/xqg0w3bicfg51.png
02:01 <Nedemai> D:
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02:07 <Alice> You know as well as I do that were pokemon real, humans would be eating them alongside keeping them as pets, or training them for illegal animal fighting gambling rings
02:09 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Nightly Discussion #2248 [ http://tinyurl.com/y5slvj35 ]
02:32 <Alice> https://i.redd.it/5tkdgkykndg51.jpg
02:50 * Alice bites into a pickle. Brine from the pickle squirts up in to her eye and she starts stumbling around blindly while screaming.
02:54 * Schism guides Alice over to an eyewash station.
02:55 * Alice rinses vigorously. "Second time that's happened in a week..."
02:55 <Schism> Bleh. Trimmed nails. While long nails are nice, A. they were continually distracting me from typing, and B. they are a nuisance to maintain. I'll go with 'slightly longer than I otherwise would' nails.
02:55 <Alice> That's what I'm doing yeah.
02:57 <Alice> Haven't you caused enough damage to my arm Spitfire?
03:04 <Alice> https://twitter.com/LuminousOcean/status/1293382605916774400?s=19
03:04 <Ali> Good old cat kneading on arm
03:04 <Alice> Schism.
03:04 * Ali flops over Schism
03:05 <Schism> Yes, Alice?
03:05 <Schism> Also, hehe.
03:05 * Schism also flops under Ali.
03:08 <Alice> Nuttin', was just pointing out the damage my cat does.
03:09 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Makenshi: Luna Music: RedSpark - Dreamweaver [House] [ http://tinyurl.com/yynssomz ]
03:09 * PrincessRainbows hugs Ali really tight and hides behind her
03:10 <Ali> Luna rips my leg apart trying to get up to the cat food
03:10 <Alice> Ah, leg-climbing-at-feeding-time type?
03:12 <Ali> Kind of
03:13 <Alice> Stand-up-against-your-leg type then. Meowing the entire time.
03:14 <Schism> Another reason to prefer shorter-but-still-longish nails -- catching them against something is less likely to rip the whole nail off my hand.
03:15 * Schism sighs. "Ow." She considers playing a bit of FFXIV or something.
03:15 <Alice> Heh.
03:17 <Alice> I just want to let mine grow out more because if I clip them too frequently, the skin on my fingers underneath starts to peel off for some reason.
03:18 <Schism> I mostly just like the aesthetic. *foxyshrug*
03:18 <Alice> Oh, that's there too.
03:21 <Alice> It's just the longer they get, the weirder it feels to type. </Chloe from cute comic> Especially if I don't file them down a bit.
03:22 <Schism> Indeed.
03:22 <Alice> The Legend of Luna: Twilight Princess Twilight Sparkle
03:23 <Schism> While getting used to them eventually is in the cards, when it constantly feels distracting, that's not helpful in the slightest.
03:25 <Alice> It's more something about the tapping of my finger nails prior to filing/smoothing feels off. Almost as if clipping does something to the nails that has to be repaired with a bit of filing.
03:26 <Schism> I would say that because it pinches the nail, that sharpens it somewhat.
03:27 <Alice> That's what I'm thinking. There is no way that clipping them wouldn't leave a sharp edge or possibly make them a bit ragged
03:28 <Alice> Unfortunately, last time, I clipped too much off. Need to let the nails grow out before I can repair the damage.
03:30 <Alice> https://gfycat.com/darknegativeannashummingbird I love how ungraceful kittens look when jumping down.
03:31 <Schism> This is a fantastic proposal and I fully support it. https://twitter.com/pookleblinky/status/1293324639305949184
03:31 <Alice> https://v.redd.it/8prbwn3bxdg51
03:32 <Alice> Heh.
03:32 <Alice> I wonder what would come out if I were ever drugged with hallucinogenics.
03:34 <Alice> Knowing me with alcohol, probably just me trying to "maintain control" or just a lengthy civil discussion about my mental state with people around me, imagined and real.
03:34 <Schism> Hah.
03:35 <Alice> https://v.redd.it/tvfycsfjp9g51
03:36 <Schism> Only disassociative-slash-hallucinogen I've taken in the past is cough syrup, and that was Not Good.
03:37 <Alice> Nothing, here. Closest I came to full-blown hallucination was catching the flu. Saw human-shaped shadows moving about with no apparent source.
03:38 <Schism> Beardlings.
03:38 <Schism> Or whatever those enemies are in Don't Starve.
03:38 <Alice> Nightmares, but yes.
03:38 <Alice> Basically like that.
03:43 <Alice> I should order some edibles.
03:45 <Schism> That might not be the worst idea.
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03:47 * Alice sings the national anthem of r/egg_irl. "Oh I'm a lumberjack, and I'm okay..."
03:48 <Alice> Funny thing about that song. I get the lyrics messed up(strangely, the mixup suits me) and it still makes sense. "I sleep all day and I work all night!" instead of "I work all day and I sleep all night!"
03:58 * Schism chuckles. "A classic indeed."
03:59 <Schism> If I do manage to get that raise, I'll absolutely be ordering a huge bunch of Indian cuisine from the local restaurant. >
03:59 <Schism> >///>
04:00 <Alice> I'm thinking sushi for lunch tomorrow, mysrelf
04:00 <Schism> Wasabi aside, though, sushi is nowhere near as spicy as this stuff will be. >.>
04:01 * Ali thinks Schism is going to be a chubby ling after all that.
04:02 <Schism> Ali: No, no. Indian food like this is healthy!
04:02 <Schism> Loads of vegetables.
04:02 <Alice> I'd go for some spicy tantan ramen, but there is only one place(out of three total) in the whole city to get that, and it doesn't deliver.
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04:07 <Ali> I can't handle spicy X.x
04:08 <PinkieShy> Speaking of Ramen..
04:08 <PinkieShy> A restaurant not to far from me sells that on their menu that their reviews seem to suggest..
04:09 <PinkieShy> Actually sounds good..
04:10 <Schism> Actual ramen is a joy.
04:41 <Schism> This seems like the correct end result. https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/eugenics
04:44 * Ali facehooves
04:45 <Ali> Well Luna found the hidden catnip
04:50 * Ali beeps Schism nosie
04:51 * Schism mwurps. Boops the Ali.
04:51 * Ali squeaks!
04:54 * PinkieShy licks Ali
04:55 * Ali snugs on the PinkieShy
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05:07 * PrincessRainbows looks up at Ali like an innocent foal and raises her hooves for cuddles
05:07 * Ali scoops up PrincessRainbows and snuggles her so much.
05:08 * PrincessRainbows wags her tail and licks the Ali
05:09 * Ali brushies the PrincessRainbows and snuggles with her so much.
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05:10 * PrincessRainbows offers the Ali hey cause good horsey
05:25 * PinkieShy hands PrincessRainbows a cup of Chamomile tea
05:25 * PrincessRainbows boops Ali's horn with a wing and giggles
05:26 * PrincessRainbows sips
05:37 * PrincessRainbows climbs up onto PinkieShy and makes unintelligible filly noises
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06:15 * PrincessRainbows hugs Ali so tight and looks up at her
06:15 * Ali huggles on PrincessRainbows heavily
06:17 * PrincessRainbows headtilts and makes silly filly noises at Ali
06:18 <Ali> Just confused is all
06:19 * PrincessRainbows begs at Ali for sugar cubes
06:19 * Ali gives the PrincessRainbows sugar cubes.
06:20 * PrincessRainbows yays and noms
06:35 * PrincessRainbows boops Ali and giggles
06:42 * PrincessRainbows makes sleepy foal noises and curls up under Ali. Nini
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07:18 <ConfusionRift> Hello everypony.
07:19 * Ali flops over ConfusionRift and grumblies
07:19 * PrincessRainbows looks up at ConfusionRift with teary eyes and makes scared little filly noises
07:19 * ConfusionRift huggles both Ali and PrincessRainbows.
07:23 * PrincessRainbows grabs her pacifier and grabby hooves at ConfusionRift
07:24 * ConfusionRift grabbies and pets PrincessRainbows, while still sorta huggling Ali.
07:25 * PrincessRainbows curls up cause actually sleepy filly
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07:47 * ConfusionRift doesn't know what to do either.
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08:33 <ConfusionRift> just about done with Subnautica. I guess I can jump to that.
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09:39 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by The Illustrious Q: My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic #89 Released Today! - Download Links, Variants, Discussion! [ http://tinyurl.com/y33eytff ]
10:27 <Alice> Blah. Not the best sleep I've had, but it'll have to do.
10:30 * Alice manipulates a bag of sun chips. Wakes up the graveyard near Schism.
10:35 <ConfusionRift> "Chiiiiipssssssss..."
10:36 <Alice> More along the lines of "Keep it down out there! I'm trying to get my promised eternal rest!"
10:59 * Alice notices a small, beetle like critter crawling on her. "Hmm? The hell are you?"
11:02 <Alice> https://i.redd.it/wvks8r7kqjg51.jpg
11:07 <Alice> Something outside. Cats be going bonkers.
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11:09 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Morning Discussion #2021 [ http://tinyurl.com/y3p46o4e ]
11:10 <ConfusionRift> If it's a tiny beetle, it's probably a carpet beetle.
11:10 * ConfusionRift sits by the window going pstpstpst.
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11:23 * Surreal_Nightmares clht hiss Alice
11:23 * Surreal_Nightmares clutchies Alice tummy
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11:23 * Filly_Nightmares purr
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11:29 <Alice> https://twitter.com/LuminousOcean/status/1293382605916774400?s=19 spitfiiiirrreee!
11:34 <Alice> !link https://youtu.be/KjJMWj6BYhY
11:34 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.
11:34 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about [Touhou 3D] Brambly Boundaries
11:35 <Alice> You know... It occurs to me.
11:35 * ConfusionRift shuts off the big laser gun thing. "Just have to build a rocket..."
11:35 <Tirek> Think I solved all my problems regarding homebrewing soda.
11:35 <ConfusionRift> Hmmm?
11:35 <Tirek> I got a really nice root beer flavor.
11:36 <ConfusionRift> Nice.
11:36 <Tirek> Yeah, for the past year I was working on making home-made soda using a natural fermentation process.
11:36 <Alice> If and when we achieve VR tech akin to what is seen in .hack and SAO, it will likely present a problem unseen before. And not in a way you'd think. Gimme a moment, gonna switch to laptop for typing and then I'll explain.
11:37 <RazorSharpFang> Good evening.
11:39 <Alice> Right, there we go.
11:40 <Alice> Anyways. Basic gist of the problem: How long do you suppose it takes for a signal from the human brain, to reach the tips of your fingers?
11:40 <Alice> Or your feet?
11:40 <RazorSharpFang> 16.67 ms
11:41 <Alice> ... Heh.
11:41 <Alice> No, it depends partly on the myelin sheath of the neurons. But a good estimate is, from the shoulder to the tips of the fingers, about 2 milliseconds.
11:43 <Alice> Now, why would this matter in a VR system that directly interfaces with the brain through some wireless mechanic?
11:44 <RazorSharpFang> It might feel weird if the response-time was faster perhaps.
11:44 <Alice> Exactly.
11:44 <Alice> You cut out the rest of the neural system, and read directly from the brain, you're cutting out any transmission latency involved.
11:45 <RazorSharpFang> But it would be weird to have a game repaint itself 500 times a second.
11:45 <Alice> And yet, the brain would be able to process it. There are research papers and reports that jet fighter pilots have the ability to process visual data at a much higher rate than even the best MOBA players.
11:46 <Alice> The problem I foresee though is less that of visual input, and more motion output.
11:47 <Alice> If the transmission time disappears, how would your body react to seeing and feeling changes in positional information faster than it is used to?
11:48 <Alice> Hum. I actually wonder if that's what the motion sickness thing is with VR *NOW*.
11:48 <Alice> Because, right now, current VR relies on like, 60-120Hz refresh rates.
11:48 <Alice> Which are still slower than the transmission time from the shoulder to the tips of the fingers, so there's a bit of a disconnect.
11:49 <Alice> 8-16 millisecond response times versus 2 millisecond response times from our real-world visual and motion response times.
11:49 <RazorSharpFang> We'd have to seriously limit the number of vertices if we wanted 500 updates a second.
11:49 <RazorSharpFang> Also, I don't know if there are any monitors that have update rates of 500
11:50 <Alice> There aren't.
11:50 <Alice> Highest right now that I've seen is 240.
11:50 <Alice> The thing about VR displays though?
11:50 <Alice> They're small. Like, much smaller than a typical display.
11:51 <Alice> High response times, high refresh rates, they're more viable on VR headsets.
11:51 <Alice> But as you said, we'd have to limit the number of vertices considerably.
11:51 <Alice> Especially since current VR designs are in the 1080p range for resolution last I checked.
11:52 <Alice> But it's not impossible to achieve 500 FPS. Let's see..
11:53 <Alice> Yeah, even my laptop can achieve 500+ FPS using glxgears max screen. And that's an unoptimized program.
11:54 <Alice> Hum, it seems the display I use on my laptop is not exactly 60Hz.
11:54 <Alice> Seeing a stutter that suggests that it's actually a little too high.
11:56 <ConfusionRift> How would interactions between the brain and a "magical" wireless device even work? You thing is reading mental activity, and another is associating very specific parameters as a specific interaction on a piece of software.
11:56 <ConfusionRift> *One thing, not you thing
11:56 <Alice> This is, currently an issue, yes.
11:56 <Alice> That said..
11:56 <Alice> It's not impossible to impact the brain.
11:57 <ConfusionRift> Which is what every one of these series tackle.
11:57 <Alice> A common example of this is the disruption of Wernicke's Area.
11:57 <Alice> Using a device, two researchers demonstrated that it is possible to disrupt Wernicke's Area non-invasively.
11:58 <Alice> This results in the inability to understand language, or speak.
11:58 <Alice> Well, you can speak.
11:58 <Alice> Just, you can't speak coherently.
11:58 <Alice> Like, you just start uttering giberish.
11:59 <Alice> Unfortunately, I don't have the link to the video, or I'd show it off.
11:59 <Alice> So, in practice, it is theoretically possible to provide information to the brain.
12:00 <Alice> The problem is doing it in a controlled manner, in a way that doesn't cause interaction with other parts of the brain.
12:00 <Alice> For visual purposes, this is fortunately easy. Current VR headsets pretty much do this straight up.
12:00 <Alice> Same with auditory.
12:01 <Alice> Granted, auditory could be expanded on a bit.
12:01 <Alice> Audio is not just sound waves entering the ear. It's sound waves interacting with the skull, skin, nose, etc.
12:03 <Alice> Reading from the brain? *THAT* is getting easier and easier by the day, apparently.
12:03 <Alice> People have already started being able to create devices that can allow one to use their brain to remotely control a device.
12:03 <Alice> To varying levels of difficulty, since it requires mapping the subject's brain.
12:03 <Alice> Calibration, as it were.
12:09 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Comics: No Stone / ES nEvermore #005 / Es Stable #33 / New Beginnings #63 / Hollowshades #151 / Lullaby #113 [ http://tinyurl.com/y25fy7jv ]
12:23 <Alice> Hum.
12:23 <Alice> I don't know if my resolution mode changes are even DOING anything..
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12:57 <Alice> So, my school's website doesn't support TLS1.2
12:59 <Alice> ... I hate that there's never an "English(Canada)" option for language of choice.
13:00 * ConfusionRift shrugs.
13:05 * Alice hums.
13:07 <Alice> So, the main issue I have with going by "Alice" is that, as a name, it's sufficient, but it doesn't really work well with my last name. Alice Dionne sounds... weird. Doesn't segue right. That said, there... IS, an alternative, wherein the name "Alice" can then be used as a sort of short form or nickname.
13:08 <Alice> Allison/Alison, basically.
13:14 <ConfusionRift> I know there was another, but can't think of it.
13:17 * Alice starts doing research for a big purchase. Is getting tired of the wifi setup in this house, and quite frankly is gonna need a better one soon anyways, with school starting.
13:29 <Alice> Seems the NetGear Orbi is the split point between performance and cost.
13:30 <Alice> In any case, I got stuffs I need to do to my laptop, so I shall be back in about mmm, 30 minutes?
13:32 <ConfusionRift> I actually have to crash for work.
13:32 <ConfusionRift> Laters, and have a good one!
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13:33 <Alice> Or not. Apparently the USB was not burned properly.
13:34 <Alice> Oh.
13:35 <Alice> Turns out I didn't have ntfs-3g installed.
13:36 <Alice> I need a better USB flash drive that doesn't throttle from overheat.
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15:43 * Alice gets bored. Writes a LIFX packet dissector for wireshark.
16:06 <Alice> I'm no expert at probability, but getting both my sushi and package delivery couriers to arrive at the same time seems pretty low in terms of probability.
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16:59 * Alice sighs.
17:20 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Makenshi: Pony Concept Music: SDreamExplorerS - Ildy pad Ružovymi Kryłami (feat. Velvet R. Wings, Koron Korak & Pavel Lipski) [Folk Metal] [ http://tinyurl.com/y35ykdy5 ]
17:24 <Schism> Whew... when you wake up a few minutes before work. Furrfu.
17:24 * Schism makes herself some coffee.
17:24 <Schism> Alice: There's also Alicia.
17:25 <Alice> Heh.
17:26 <Schism> It is funny, though, because Alice is very much a French name.
17:26 <Schism> Well, that and Old German.
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17:29 * Ali flails at Schism as that's the name she uses for her mon OC
17:29 * Schism blinks. o3o;
17:30 <Schism> Randomly, have snep. https://twitter.com/Amrodtiger/status/1061606358942916608
17:34 <Schism> Cepheid: oh god. This space station. http://freefall.purrsia.com/
17:34 <Schism> Er, Alice. Darnt. Why...?!
17:34 <Schism> Brain, why do I keep doing that. Sorry.
17:35 <Schism> Alice: That space station seems like the sort of thing the two of us would put together.
17:35 <Alice> It's fine.
17:35 <Alice> Either or works.
17:35 <Alice> And heh, yes.
17:35 <Alice> That'd be me.
17:36 <Schism> Sam, please don't bring Florence into the backroom of the station. She's already stressed enough meeting her beau's parents. She doesn't need to have a heart attack on top of that.
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17:47 * Schism sips caffeinated lifeblood as she prepares for work.
17:49 <Schism> !log
17:49 <Unixkitty> https://unixkitty.com/logs/EquestriaDaily/latest.log.html
17:51 * Ali gives Schism PTO cause unicorn needs snuggles
17:52 * Schism hugs Ali. "It's either MTO or VTO, and I will be taking it this evening if possible, but... yes."
17:52 <Schism> Randomly: https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/737187612296740935/743164796656025690/v1hfzkes2lg51.png
17:56 <Schism> "What do we know about 18 to 24 year olds? They are really stupid... they make really bad decisions." --Kamala Harris speaks truth
18:05 <Ali> And can't stay off of a cell phone for longer than two seconds
18:37 * Alice graghs. Exhaustion is setting in rapidly.
18:48 <Alice> So, 3 "disable factory test mode" packets are broadcast, then a DEVICE_GET_VERSION packet, followed by a DEVICE_GET_HOST_FIRMWARE packet. Curiously, the danged app sets the reserved fields to non-zero values.
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18:58 <Ali> I don't ever remember in factorio needing more than one explicit steel producer, but the one lane of steel just can't keep up under the high demand right now.
19:03 <Alice> Ah, good ole' reverse engineering..
19:05 <Alice> Figured out what those extra fields are through examining the LIFX app code.
19:05 <Schism> Hum. WFM just looooves putting my breaks close to SoS and EoS.
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19:10 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Silver Quill: Let's Review: Friendship is Magic #89 [ http://tinyurl.com/y4sfmv48 ]
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20:00 * Alice gahs. Sore all over. Tired. Needs to sleep. Can't sleep. Musn't sleep.
20:10 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Drawfriend Stuff (Pony Art Gallery) #3429 [ http://tinyurl.com/y5nyc8s3 ]
20:42 <Alice> I foresee in the future, as VR develops, greater numbers of cases of people reporting gender dysphoria.
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21:21 <Lumindia> qwhat makes you say that?
21:26 <Alice> A lot of people tend to play the gender opposite to theirs. For some, this won't have any effect. But others, they might find looking down and seeing a body that does not reflect theirs in term of gender(or even species, etc), moving with 1:1 motion mapped to their body might... Not react well to it.
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22:08 <Schism> Alice: https://twitter.com/NintendoAmerica/status/1293577991457366016
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22:20 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Revote On the Griffon Poll - Swapped to Strawpoll [ http://tinyurl.com/y35makc8 ]
22:23 <Ali> Schism, hated that mini game
22:23 <Schism> Hehe.
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23:09 <Lumindia> >.> I find it WEIRD to play a female character if I have a choice
23:10 <Lumindia> EVERYONE in my group of friends is male, yet plays female characters in XIV
23:10 <Lumindia> and I don't understand that
23:11 <Ali> Lumindia, bewbs, simple as that
23:13 <Lumindia> one plays a female lalafell, and they're cutting boards
23:19 <Ali> I find it odd that FF14 has a bust slider
23:19 <Stormspark> I've always played male characters myself but one of my friends said "if I have to stare at a character's butt all day, I want it to be a cute female butt"
23:27 <Lumindia> I mean...
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23:38 <Nedemai> Ali ~
23:38 * Ali wavies
23:40 <Nedemai> How are you?
23:40 <Nedemai> How is all the ponies?
23:40 <Nedemai> :3
23:44 * PrincessRainbows flops on Nedemai and sighs
23:45 * Nedemai hugs the PrincessRainbows
23:45 * Nedemai offers hugs to the Ali as well
23:46 <Nedemai> sorry if I say something or post a link and go silent, I am not ignoring you guys and I am right at my keyboard half the time
23:47 <Nedemai> just busy arting or with clocks or what else
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