00:42 * Angie pouncies at Ali.
00:43 * Ali catches Angie and snugs
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01:08 * Lumindia hugs both
01:08 <Lumindia> :D
01:11 * Ali squeaks at Lumindia
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01:20 * Schism flops in on break for a moment.
01:20 <Schism> Need coffee~
01:20 <Schism> Thankfully, my weekend does indeed start tonight, because training for my promotion (yay!) is next week.
01:23 * Ali nibbles Schism ear
01:26 * Schism earwiggles...!
01:26 <Schism> $1 more an hour adds up, thankfully.
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01:28 <Ali> When I went back to work years ago, it was at $8
01:28 * Schism now flops back off to work.
01:28 * Ali pouts, story has to wait
01:29 <Schism> I know, but sorry... I'll be done work soon though!
01:29 * Lumindia snugs a Schism, nibbles ear
01:30 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: The Top 10 Pony Videos of July 2020 [ http://tinyurl.com/y5ergwjv ]
01:30 * Lumindia also nibble an Ali ear
01:31 * Ali squeakies at Lumindia
01:39 <Lumindia> ♥
01:39 * Lumindia drapes a blanket over ali, snuggles
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02:10 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Nightly Discussion #2249 [ http://tinyurl.com/y3g96od9 ]
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02:37 * PrincessRainbows hugs Ali and whimpers
02:37 * Ali brushies the PrincessRainbows
02:58 <Schism> Whew. That was a surprisingly decent day, all in all.
03:03 <Schism> https://twitter.com/z0mbee/status/1293409135707459584
03:07 * Schism snugs a Lumindia. And an Ali.
03:07 * Ali curls into Schism and le sighs
03:07 * Schism flops against Ali. And into Eorzea.
03:08 <Schism> "The world is currently full." Surprised I am.
03:10 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Makenshi: Pinkie Music Remix: DJ MHM - Pinkie Rage (D3LTA Remix) [Trance] [ http://tinyurl.com/y4ba8v88 ]
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03:35 * Schism teleports around, because before emmskew, there must be SWIMSUIT!
03:45 * Ali sits on Schism and sads
03:46 * Schism hugs the Ali. "You were saying something about $8?"
03:46 <Ali> Oh that's what my last job's starting wage was
03:46 <Ali> By the time I ended there, it was $16
03:46 <Ali> Too bad that only lasted for like a month...
03:52 <Schism> Ow...
03:52 <Schism> At least you did keep getting pay raises, but bleh.
03:52 <Ali> Not really
03:53 <Ali> I mean while I was in training, the base pay went from $9>$10
03:53 <Ali> Err sorry, 8 to 9
03:53 <Schism> Oh, heh. :<
03:53 <Ali> And they had $6/hr insentives as well
03:54 <Ali> For me it was super easy hitting 13-14/hr
03:54 <Ali> But then the place bellied up at the end of '16
03:54 <Ali> And '17...I don't want to talk about that year at all.
03:56 * Schism nods... "17 was not very good for me, either."
03:56 * Schism hugs the Ali. "Those incentives do sound nice, to be sure."
03:57 <Ali> It was, and I don't understand why the turnover rate was so darn high
03:58 <Schism> Some folks just don't want to work a crap job, no matter how high the wages might be.
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04:06 <Schism> Level 80 warrior quest is silly.
04:11 * Ali flops. "Time to yeet a rock.."
04:13 <Ali> Welp, Gold Gauntlets wasn't WotH
04:22 * Ali grumps on Schism. "One bottle Ice Cavern...":
04:33 * Schism gets that swimsuit. "Hum."
04:33 <Schism> The pareo's nice.
04:58 * Ali flops back over Schism. "I wish I had a game that I could play with others sometimes."
05:11 * Alice awakens.
05:21 <Alice> ... Cat...
05:22 <Alice> I put a plate with food down onto the table. Not even one second, and he flicks his tail into my food.
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05:26 <Ali> Didn't you know? If you own a cat, your food has to have at /least/ one cat hair in it at all times.
05:31 <Alice> https://i.redd.it/21wr5tsopog51.jpg
05:33 <Alice> Cat if you don't stop moving, I can't pet you.
05:39 <Alice> Ye know, I don't get it. Why is WinRAR, among all the other applications and games with similar functionality out there, the one that is most remembered for it's registered/shareware state?
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05:40 <ConfusionRift> Hello everypony.
05:42 <Alice> Morning.
05:43 <Alice> Posted over in #techponies. Stolen without permission from the toothpaste pone. https://shitposter.club/media/2d8737e36e6f43973d7e08bf0e512b2c056066874ed127e82cf714f18494d151.jpg?name=Roma_1597282594198_BQK9BW21DS.jpg
05:43 <ConfusionRift> Alice: WinRAR was one of the most widely used pieces of software. The reason why everyone remembers it the most is because, before 7zip came to be, it was the only shareware that could still be used way beyond its trial period. So... it became a thing. Why bother paying for the software, when I can still use it.
05:44 <ConfusionRift> It's to the status of Limewire. :P
05:44 <Golden> Evening. I just pre-ordered the new Samurai Jack video game. Went with switch for it isn't available to pre-order on PS4
05:44 * Ali flops over ConfusionRift and hugs on hard
05:45 * ConfusionRift huggles Ali just as hard.
05:47 <ConfusionRift> Alice, that's pretty funny. Can't really read the "file to be decompressed" something Session_IPA.zip... kinda ironic that's a .zip.
05:48 <Alice> Heh.
05:49 <ConfusionRift> Golden: What's this Samurai Jack video ga-OOOoooh... this actually kinda looks interesting. Hmmmm.
05:49 <Schism> It is a categorical imperative that when making cookies, one must always taste test one of each batch.
05:50 <ConfusionRift> Hence baker's dozen. :P
05:50 * Ali noms all the batter first
05:50 <ConfusionRift> One... can do that as well, yeah. :P
05:51 <Golden> ConfusionRift: There is even a skill called Jump Good in the game's skill tree.
05:51 * Alice gives Ali a large blob of salmonella.
05:51 <ConfusionRift> HAH!
05:51 * Ali burps, still misses the taste of cookie batter.
05:52 <Schism> Ali: There is a dangerously large number of chocolate chip cookies in this batter.
05:52 <Ali> Even better
05:53 <Golden> I just hope it has the bridge scene between Jack, and the Scotsman.
05:54 * Ali noms all of Schism's cookie batter
05:54 * Schism nuuus. "These are for family!"
05:55 * Ali sads..
05:55 <Alice> Who makes cookies for their family?
05:55 <Schism> This girl. *points at self with two paws*
05:55 <Schism> They're not all for my family, of course.
05:58 <Alice> Only one is.
05:59 * Ali will nom the rest!
05:59 <Golden> Also I beat Destroy All Humans on PS4
06:00 <Alice> https://v.redd.it/fqg63qiblng51
06:01 * ConfusionRift offers Ali some brownies.
06:01 * Ali noms those as well
06:01 * Schism puts some ice cream atop said warm brownies.
06:04 * Ali cries, now wants something sweet but dun't have anythings
06:11 <Schism> Alice: "I don't see a zipper. How can you unzip the bottle?"
06:11 <ConfusionRift> I do have brownies, and my goodness was it a pain to get. All simply because I always leave after closing.
06:11 <Alice> Heh.
06:11 <Alice> All i have sweets wise are freezies.
06:12 <Schism> Night like this, that's not a bad thing.
06:17 * ConfusionRift notices something.
06:17 <ConfusionRift> Did... did I really never closed Subnautica since last night?
06:18 <Schism> o.o
06:18 <ConfusionRift> I didn't... yeah, that is... yeah.
06:18 <Schism> That's one way to inflate your hours played.
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06:24 * ConfusionRift sighs. "That tells you how out of it I have been as of late."
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06:25 <Ali> Oh I screwed up train pathing in Factorio
06:25 <Ali> Just pathed the route wrong and put all the belts down beforehand
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06:25 <Ali> So I have a train going to wrong way on the rails X.x
06:26 * ConfusionRift hears the Transport Tycoon explosion sound.
06:28 <Schism> Ali: Just put another engine on the opposite end!
06:29 <Ali> Nah I've got it so where I don't think colissions are possible
06:29 <Ali> But I'm not tearing down a 12M iron mine to fix it.
06:33 <Ali> I did manage another achievo out of Factorio though. Have bots build more stuff than me
06:37 <Schism> And it was at this point that Jen realized that she'd run into one of the dangers of overzealous baking: when there is more chocolate in the mix than dough.
06:39 <Ali> Whoops
06:39 <Schism> Guess I should just toss out the rest. *pours into Ali*
06:40 * Ali yays and nom noms
06:40 <Schism> Though alternately I could roll it into small balls and make it into cookie dough ice cream.
06:47 <ConfusionRift> Oh noooo. Too much chocolate? Oh whatever should I doooo... (dumps the rest in the mix) :P
06:49 <Alice> I think I know why, when it comes to melee weapons, that I prefer heavier weapons to lighter ones.
06:51 <Alice> I like high-momentum strikes. Basically, builds up momentum horizontally in some manner, then transition to an overhead swing into the target.
06:51 <Alice> Because it takes a lot of physical effort to do.
06:52 <ConfusionRift> Hehehe.
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06:53 <Alice> On top of that, add in the sensation of the impact. The sudden stop of the weapon as it strikes a surface that can stop it, and any vibration that moves through it and your arms.
06:53 <ConfusionRift> I don't like being the speedy glass cannon, but also don't like being a wall of steel. So I tend to look for a compromise. Then again, might have been influenced from my old sorta-team RPG days.
06:54 <Alice> Arguably, the impact of a high-momentum weapon against a solid surface would likely hurt like hell.
06:54 <Alice> Both for the weilder and the target.
06:54 * ConfusionRift nods.
06:54 * Ali never got comfortable for any class, hated DPS cause scared she was bad, didn't want to tank for the same reasons... Healer was the closest she ever felt to useful.
06:54 <ConfusionRift> Unless the force of the weapon exceeds the overall resistance of the target.
06:55 <Alice> In any case, God Eater, at least, the later versions, add in a weapon that appeals to me.
06:55 <Alice> In fact, said weapon class is likely where Monster Hunter World got it's thruster-enhanced Great Sword idea from.
06:56 <Alice> In the God Eater 2, they added a rocket-propelled hammer.
06:56 <Alice> You can charge it up for a powerful overhead strike.
06:56 <ConfusionRift> Hellooooo King Dedede. :P
06:56 <Alice> That said, I much prefer the scythe class weapons.
06:56 <Alice> Which themselves, would likely still have many of the attributes I want.
06:56 * Ali blehs softly and faceflops.
06:56 <Alice> As scythes are horrendously unbalanced weapons in terms of center of mass.
06:57 <Alice> Even moreso than spears, halberds and the like.
06:57 * ConfusionRift patpats Ali. "I always struggle to pick classes as well."
06:57 <Alice> I am terrible with class choices, myself.
06:57 <Alice> Mostly because many RPGs don't really offer the type of class I want.
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06:58 <Alice> I want a DPS-Healer combo. Problem is, that combo's a little OP, and kind of contradictory to MMOs and such.
06:58 <ConfusionRift> I never follow up with what the class is intended to do. It's another reason why I don't like moving to RPGs, especially MMOs that are team dependent.
06:59 <Alice> As it is a class that would appeal primarily to soloing.
07:02 * Schism splorfs at today's Real Life Comics.
07:02 <ConfusionRift> And then we got Grim Dawn... (grabs musket) This one was easier to choose from. :P
07:02 <Ali> The closest thing to that Alice was Shadow Priest
07:02 <Alice> Yeah, I'm aware.
07:02 <Ali> Or Retrabution Pally
07:03 <Schism> Alice: Whaaat, playing a Priestess for however long wasn't enough DPS for you?
07:03 <Alice> No. :P
07:03 <Schism> Or Monk? :P
07:03 <Alice> Not when I can't control the other players who are effectively my DPS.
07:03 <Ali> I remember when playing Ret Pally was a joke
07:03 <Schism> Fair enough.
07:04 <Alice> Fortunately, some games try to balance out the whole healing/DPS game. God Eater and Monster Hunter, of all series, are one such game.
07:04 <Alice> You can take up reasonable healing roles through the use of items and armor skills.
07:04 <Schism> I still like my good old Sonic/Kinetic Blaster. He/she was quite fun to play. Just enough DPS not to get completely eaten, enough powers with healing to keep herself alive, and enough control to completely shut down most enemy groups while buffing the party.
07:04 <Alice> While still being built like a danged tank.
07:05 <Schism> Wait, no, that was Kin/Sonic, she was a Defender.
07:06 * Ali sometimes wishes WoW wasn't an MMO now..
07:07 <Schism> Wonder if anyone's played an ooold game called Freedom Force.
07:08 <ConfusionRift> There is, technically, sorta kinda in a way in some point of view, a way to play it outside their servers. Basically, you would be running said server. It's a pain, cost effective, questionable, and not really worth the sweat.
07:08 <ConfusionRift> Sounds oddly familiar.
07:08 <Schism> ConfusionRift, it was a tactical superhero RPG.
07:08 <ConfusionRift> Neeeever mind.
07:09 <ConfusionRift> My cousin played it. That's how I recognized it.
07:09 <Schism> Aha!
07:09 <Alice> You know, there's one thing I wish I could do, but cannot.
07:10 <ConfusionRift> At the time, he was either playing WoW, or ANYTHING that could fill that void when he ran out of time.
07:10 <Alice> Twirling a baton, staff, or hell, even a pencil/pen. While I can *DO* it, I can't do it smoothly. Not enough dexterity.
07:10 <ConfusionRift> So a lot of diverse MMOs. Freedom Force included.
07:10 <Schism> Well, Freedom Force was singleplayer with a multiplayer option. But yes.
07:11 <ConfusionRift> Alice: I can twirl it one way, but can't return it.
07:11 <Alice> I can't even do that.
07:11 <Schism> Alice: A learned skill, that.
07:11 <Alice> I can twirl items, but I do it in such a manner that it looks stilted. Not at all smooth.
07:12 <Alice> Right, with the propranolol slowly draining out of my system, life is coming back into my body again.
07:12 <Schism> Have a moment of wholesome. https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1293681217330712578
07:15 <Alice> Truth told, I wonder if I would actually even be able to learn kendo or any sort of swordplay. With some lack of manual dexterity, I'm not sure I'd be able to do any of the motions properly.
07:16 <Alice> As it is, I can't even properly move my hands smoothly. They're jittery, jolting in their motion.
07:17 <Alice> I'd probably be better off with a style more suited for that. Like Iaido.
07:18 <Alice> That style is reaction-based. That is, reacting to sudden attacks. AKA: Quickdraw.
07:22 <ConfusionRift> Ooooh, woooow. Control is not gonna have a Next-gen console update. Instead, it's reserved to those with the Ultimate edition, or buy on the new console. That is poopie.
07:22 <Alice> And yet not unsurprising in any way.
07:22 <Alice> Er, not surprising*
07:22 <ConfusionRift> It isn't... but still.
07:23 <Alice> I mean, people are going to re-buy GTAV, and Skyrim for next gen, as well.
07:23 <Schism> Alice: But what if Bethesda doesn't release Skyrim for the next generation of consoles?
07:23 <ConfusionRift> Hah if they do. I sure won't. I'm no idiot.
07:24 * ConfusionRift doesn't like Skyrim anyways.
07:24 <Alice> I own both games on PC. At this point, there is legitimately no reason to re-purchase them for any generation of console.
07:26 <ConfusionRift> I don't know why someone would. It will look exactly the same. Maybe a bit of FPS range, but that's it. It will still look as crusty, buggy, and the absolute mess that is used to be.
07:26 * Alice internally rages against her own body, in particular, the source of exhaustion and weakness. WWWRRRRYYYYYYYYY!
07:27 <Alice> If anything, because of the PS5 and XBox SX, with their advertisement as being 120Hz-capable, etc, I forsee more bugs in Skyrim.
07:27 * ConfusionRift nods.
07:28 <ConfusionRift> We already discussed how framerate changes can easily destroy this game. :P
07:28 <Alice> Mmhmm.
07:28 <Alice> I do kind of wonder why Bethesda decided not to just support interpo- Wait, difficulty. That's why.
07:29 * Alice goes off to start doing exercises again.
07:31 <Schism> Note to anyone who would ever run for politics. Pay a little attention when you're doing photo ops. https://twitter.com/tjhansen/status/1293554190296453123
07:31 <ConfusionRift> 0_0
07:32 <ConfusionRift> https://twitter.com/teelopesmusic/status/1293610147542183939
07:32 <Alice> Heh.
07:33 <Alice> 25 push-ups. 15 crunches with modification(I hold myself up for at least one second, up to three seconds).
07:33 <Alice> Upside to all that time not exercising? My body healed, so these exercises no longer hurt like the dickens. Still strain me, but yeah.
07:35 * Ali flops onto her face again.
07:36 <Alice> You know what I'd love to make?
07:36 <Ali> Luna, do you want brushed or just to steal everything you can grab?
07:37 <Alice> I want to increase my reaction time, so one of the ways to do that is to play games that require high reaction times and get better at them, etc. However, there's a problem with this.
07:37 * Ali could do Tetris DS to infinite
07:37 <Alice> Most games typically run at an internal logic rate of 60Hz, regardless of the game's framerate.
07:37 <Ali> Like I didn't shut off the DS for three days playing it
07:38 <Alice> So even with a 240Hz monitor, and the game running at 240 FPS, you'll still only see at most 60 updates/sec.
07:39 <ConfusionRift> Ali: Aaah, same for me for Planet Puzzle League, and Lumines 1-2 back in the PSP days.
07:39 * Schism boops with a Meteos.
07:39 <Ali> The speed caps out where the piece appears instantly, and I just couldn't lose
07:39 <Alice> Now, the primary reason for lack of above 60Hz is, well, the higher the framerate, the less time you have for logic and rendering prep.
07:40 <Alice> At 240Hz, you need to have a frame ready within...
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07:40 <Alice> 4.1667 milliseconds. Or 1/240th of a second.
07:41 <Alice> Contrast this to 60Hz, which is 1/60th, or exactly 4 times as long.
07:41 <Alice> However, it is possible to achieve 240Hz tick rates or higher for games. Keep the game simple. Keep the visuals simple.
07:42 <Finwe> Good forenoon, everypony!
07:42 * Ali flops over Finwe
07:43 <Finwe> Mlles Ali, -ce, Filly_Nightmares, PrincessRainbows and Schism.
07:43 * Finwe doffs his hat.
07:43 <Finwe> Lt Cdr ConfusionRift.
07:43 <Finwe> o7
07:43 * Finwe ruffles an Alice.
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07:43 <Finwe> and an Ali.
07:43 <Finwe> o3o
07:44 <ConfusionRift> RAdm. Finwe. (salutes)
07:44 <Alice> A simple "game" for improving reflexes at this point, would be to take a large playfield, place a circle on it, that's the player. Place another circle with a rectangle, depicting a simple cannon. Your character can do flicker dodging(Instantaneous dodging). You hit a button to start a random countdown. At the end of the countdown, you see a flicker on the cannon, and it fires a projectile at you. Your task? Dodge the
07:44 <Alice> projectile.
07:45 * Schism boops Alice with an Acceleration of Suguri.
07:45 <Alice> Heh.
07:45 <Alice> Yeah, but those games are all limited to 60Hz. This here, would be limited to any frequency your monitor is capable of handling.
07:45 * PrincessRainbows flops on Finwe and whimpers
07:46 * Schism offers some of these chocolate chip peanut butter cookies to PrincessRainbows.
07:49 <Alice> Interestingly, the upper limit would probably not be the refresh rate or tick rate of the game.
07:50 <ConfusionRift> Okay, there's no way this guy just beat Metroid Prime 2 in...4 hours?! No way! (checks) Huh... he did.
07:50 <Alice> I beat Metroid Prime in 4 hours, 30 minutes or so, once.
07:50 <Alice> I even recorded it for a friend to watch.
07:50 <ConfusionRift> I can't.
07:50 <Finwe> ConfusionRift: Speedrunners gonna speedrun.
07:50 <Alice> And yet, that's barely even "fast"
07:50 <ConfusionRift> I can't play any game this fast.
07:51 <Alice> There's a 100% speedrun of Metroid Prime on Youtube that's 1 hour, 13 minutes.
07:51 <Finwe> I spent over 42 hours with Knights of the Old Republic, while the world record is just over one hour. o3o
07:51 <Alice> The thing with me is that I have good spatial memory.
07:51 <ConfusionRift> Finwe: He's not a speedrunner. He's just really avid with Metroid games. One of the few crazy enough to beat Fusion with no saves.
07:51 <Alice> This.. actually causes me distress for games.
07:52 <Alice> Any exploration game, I can usually only 100% once.
07:52 <Alice> After that, my spatial memory has the game largely memorized.
07:52 <Schism> Cookies complete. https://imgur.com/orPDSdH
07:52 <Alice> There's no fun in playing it again, except to play on a harder difficulty, or to bring my completion time down.
07:52 <Finwe> Alice: Can you remember your orientation in Descent?
07:52 <Alice> Ah, my favourite kinds of cookies, Schism.
07:52 <Alice> Yes, Finwe.
07:52 <Schism> Peanut butter chocolate chip?
07:53 <Finwe> I tend to forget where up and down are.
07:53 <Alice> Nah, just that style of cookie. Flat, spread out.
07:53 <Schism> Ah, yea. These are crispy, too.
07:53 <Alice> My spacial memory is good, but my spatial awareness is...
07:53 <ConfusionRift> Schism: That be a lot of cookies. :P
07:53 <Alice> Buildings can go up around me, and I won't notice.
07:53 <Alice> My spacial awareness is largely restricted to an incredibly small bubble around me.
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07:53 <Schism> ConfusionRift, sure are. o3o I figure my brother can take them up to Meaford when he goes to visit my mom and grandfather.
07:53 <Alice> I can tell when someone's near me, even if I can't see or hear them.
07:54 <Alice> I notice things like fluctuation in temperature, airflow, and can feel changes in the structure around me to indicate the presence of a mass nearby.
07:55 <Alice> Plus, I subconsciously rely on objects around me to indicate the presence of something nearby that wasn't there before. Reflections off of reflective lettering on a laptop lid, reflections off a glass, plastics, or hell, even the far left and right edges of my glasses.
07:55 <Alice> I suspect I developed this as part of my childhood, growing up with profound hearing loss and all that.
07:56 <Alice> Body learns to use what it has access to, to make up for what it doesn't have access to, and so on. Not sure just how realistic that is, though.
07:56 <ConfusionRift> Depends on the game and my overall condition at the time. Shmups helped me keep track of peripheral vision use, and sniper role on many shooters helped spot objects from afar. Alas, if I'm tired or worked up, that often goes out the window.
07:56 <Alice> SHMUPs definitely helped peripheral vision, because some of them, I have an odd way of playing.
07:56 <Alice> Ikaruga, for example.
07:56 <Alice> I don't watch the player ship or the surroundings.
07:57 <Alice> To get the best result out of me? I have to stare at something static on the screen, and use my peripheral vision.
07:57 <Schism> Huh. I always stare at the little dot. o3o;
07:57 <Alice> I am literally watching bullets approach the ship using the edges of my vision that are off-center.
07:58 <Alice> Of course, this breaks down a bit because there's a blind spot as a result.
07:58 <ConfusionRift> I tend to stare at the ship, or try to. Or a stare at the general character vicinity.
07:59 <Alice> The point at which the retina converges to leave the eye out into the optic nerve, there's a blind spot.
07:59 <Alice> You don't notice it because your brain reconstructs what's supposed to be there.
07:59 <Alice> But using a specially crafted image, you can intentionally force yourself to see the blind spot.
08:01 <ConfusionRift> Oh, I thought so. It's part of the gameplay. It took him 9 hours overall.
08:02 <Alice> https://visionaryeyecare.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/blindspottestbwjpeg.jpg?w=500 Close or cover your left eye. Focus on the cross with your right eye. Move in closer to the screen while focusing on the cross. The dot will disappear from sight.
08:03 <Schism> Ah, that classic one.
08:03 <Alice> Make sure your nose is lined up with the center of the image.
08:03 <Alice> It gets the best effect.
08:03 <Alice> Likewise, for the left eye, just cover your right eye, and focus on the dot with your left eye. The cross should disappear.
08:04 <ConfusionRift> But yeah, I tend to focus on the ship/character, take notice that whatever is moving towards me is likely a problem, and move accordingly.
08:04 <Alice> Yeah, in my case, the above technique only applies to Ikaruga.
08:04 <Schism> It helps that after a few runs of Ikaruga, one gets used to what's coming.
08:05 <Alice> Otherwise, more modern games these days, I use the player dot as a constant point, and then use my peripheral vision to see incoming projectiles. Of course..
08:05 <Alice> This doesn't work for some attacks.
08:05 <Alice> Super-fast projectiles, beam attacks, etc.
08:05 <ConfusionRift> I got problems with Ikaruga. The bullet mixes plus the ship's alignment kinda throws all that away, since now I have to worry about colors.
08:05 <Alice> The projectile might be missed because the area in which I am focusing on may actually have a smaller radius than the step size of the projectile.
08:06 <Alice> Interestingly?
08:06 <Alice> High-speed refresh rates would benefit games like SHMUPs a lot.
08:06 <ConfusionRift> I'm terrible at Ikaruga, I'm sorta at Touhou, and I'm decent on Thunder Force.
08:07 <ConfusionRift> Yeah, low FPS and lag is not something you want in a shmup.
08:07 <Alice> I meant 60+ FPS.
08:07 <Alice> But yeah./
08:07 <Alice> The higher the framerate, and smaller the logic step size, the better.
08:08 <Alice> The limiting factor of 60Hz and lower is simply speed of the projectile. Eventually, as the speed increases, the number of frames the projectile is visible for becomes lower.
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08:11 <Alice> If we use a screenheight of 1080, and a projectile speed of 60 units(Let's assume the units are pixels), moving vertically, the projectile will cross the screen in 18 seconds, and will be visible for every frame. No problem.
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08:13 <Alice> Boost that up to a speed of 270. Now your projectile, on a 60Hz refresh rate display, and logic timer, is only visible for 4 frames.
08:13 <Alice> Five if you spawn the projectile on a given frame, but don't move it.
08:13 <Alice> No, wait, not 4 frames. Bah, my math is wrong.
08:14 <Alice> Point is, there is an upper limit depending on the clock speed. Eventually, the number of frames a projectile is visible for approaches 0, or 1 if you don't move it on the same frame it was spawned.
08:16 <Alice> On a 1080 height screen at 60Hz, that'd basically be 1080 units per world tick. Or approximately 64,800 pixels a second.
08:17 <Alice> Actually, the clock rate doesn't matter in this case. Just how large the step is per world tick.
08:17 <Alice> However, the pixels per second changes.
08:18 <Alice> On a 240Hz screen, the pixels per second would have to be 259,200 pixels per second in order to exceed the frame rate and disappear as quickly as it appeared.
08:19 <Alice> Damnit. I want to take that earlier "game" idea and just implement it for fun. Maybe I should.
08:22 <Alice> Hum, MonoGame finally updated, eh?
08:29 <ConfusionRift> Oh, the game development framework.
08:30 <Alice> Hum, okay, so with MonoGame, I can achieve 240Hz update rate.
08:30 <Alice> But what's my framerate with a blank screen?
08:33 <Alice> Right, vsync is enabled.
08:33 <Alice> Hum, how do I disable it for monogame projects..?
08:34 <Alice> The intel .drirc approach isn't working, so..
08:34 <Alice> Which means that something internal to monogame is restricting it.
08:39 <Alice> ...
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08:40 <ConfusionRift> Okay, getting the hungies. Be right back.
08:41 * Alice investigates to see how to disable vsync/triple buffering on intel.
08:43 * Finwe hats on Ali.
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08:56 <Alice> Fullscreen, 800 or so FPS. Small window, 3000+.
08:56 <Alice> Of course, the max refresh rate of my laptop's screen being 60Hz, those extra frames are just wasted power. o3o
09:02 <Alice> So, for the cannon, a circle/ellipse and a rectangle. For the player, a circle. For the projectile, a circle. Keeps logic simple. Circle-circle intersections are among the easiest to implement. Not the fastest, by far, but still the easiest.
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09:10 * Alice gets distracted by Metroid and Mega Man music. Thinks about the concept of energy-based projectiles. "... Honestly, I can see no way how these can be done."
09:10 <Alice> I can see how the projectile might be formed, but I can't see how it'd maintain it's form after release from the relevant cannon.
09:11 <Alice> You could use electromagnetics to confine a plasma to a spherical shape, and move the plasma along the barrel, but the moment it leaves the source of the magnetic fields, it'd simply disperse.
09:12 <Alice> And honestly, up that close, and with the implied amount of energy within the projectiles? You don't want that dispersing.
09:14 <ConfusionRift> This sort of energy projectiles cannot be replicated in real life, if that's what you're contemplating.
09:15 <Alice> More or less.
09:15 <Alice> I can see how the projectile would be shaped, but not delivered.
09:15 <Alice> Outside of an energy-dense core projectile that maintains the magnetic shell containing the plasma.
09:16 <ConfusionRift> That isn't really that complex. But yeah, the delivery isn't really happening, at least not in a large destructive way.
09:16 <Alice> At which point, why are you using plasma?
09:16 <Alice> You got an energy-dense projectile. Just fire that at the target and have it detonate on impact.
09:17 <ConfusionRift> At that point, it's basically a railgun with a custom slug. :P
09:19 <Alice> And, ideally a shaped design, for purposes of dealing as much damage with the explosive force.
09:20 <ConfusionRift> Like a... sorta like how an RPG rocket works, but more capsule shaped, with a nasty charge inside.
09:22 <Alice> Essentially, the only benefit of purely electrical/plasma-based weaponry is that no ammo needs to be held. Of course, for the weapon to do any damage, you need lots of power.
09:22 <Alice> Which means a large battery of some sort.
09:22 <Alice> At least, with current technologies.
09:23 <ConfusionRift> And you probably get just one shot.
09:24 <ConfusionRift> One can mess with power banks and capacitors and the such, but at that point, you're carrying a large power station on your back.
09:24 <Alice> You may as well just use a minigun with a backpack filled to the brim with a belt for it.
09:24 <ConfusionRift> Yep. :P
09:25 <Alice> That said, one of the reasons for the research into such stuff is the design of my OC. It's still mutating and building, but yeah, I want to base some of it's design based in physics as we know it. The only exception to this rule is the power core.
09:26 <Alice> The power core is a star residing within a pocket dimension, surrounded by what amounts to a massive, high-efficiency solar array dyson sphere.
09:26 <ConfusionRift> You know that gauss rifle from FO4?
09:27 <Alice> Thus, the power core easily exceeds exawatts of power.
09:27 <Alice> And yeah?
09:29 <ConfusionRift> I think the closest possible thing would be something like that. The gauss rifle is something doable actually. I was thinking... instead of something that requires a large power source to launch a projectile, it's a frame that can be used by your OC as a projectile launcher, using their core as the power source? (shrugs)
09:31 <Alice> Yeah, technically a laser weapon would be viable.
09:31 <Alice> The limiting factor though is again, power. We aren't capable of putting enough power into a small-sized battery pack just yet.
09:32 <Alice> As for my OC, that's basically what I'm doing. The power core is both, well, the power core, and the driver for a robotic frame, that utilizes the power for various bits of functionality. Mostly, just keeping the robotic frame powered.
09:32 <ConfusionRift> The gauss rifle in FO4 works more like a railgun than a laser rifle.
09:33 <Alice> I consider stars to be sentient things in my own little weird world of mine. Thus, the star within the dyson sphere is both the power source, as well as driver of the frame.
09:33 <Alice> Mmm. Railguns are definitely viable.
09:33 <Alice> Pretty sure we already got them. Though I think they are limited to stationary devices, or vehicle-mounted devices, due to the energy draw.
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09:34 <ConfusionRift> The idea is you don't need a designated caliber, but rather a long metal-based object you can use as a slug.
09:35 <Alice> Yep.
09:35 <ConfusionRift> Also, yeah. The only railgun out there is a large one, which uses its own power station and has its own power banks. Each shot consumes most of it.
09:36 <Alice> The basic premise is that you line up a bunch of magnetic coils, then place ferrous material rod down them, then, with some sort of control mechanism, you activate the coils in sequence, injecting a lot of power while doing so. The fields basically push the rod out at high speeds.
09:36 * ConfusionRift nods.
09:37 <Alice> The core issues involved are the immense power draw. You'd need high-capacity capacitors for each coil, and a way to charge them quickly. On top of that, you need something to act as an insulator between the coils and the barrel.
09:37 <Alice> Otherwise, if the metal to be launched touches the coils, it may just cause the thing to short-circuit and burst into flames.
09:37 <Alice> At best.
09:37 <ConfusionRift> Gooood points.
09:37 * ConfusionRift scratches his chin.
09:38 <Alice> Plus, I suspect the insulator would have to be heat-resistant.
09:38 <Alice> If you've ever seen induction furnaces, you'll know why.
09:38 <Alice> While I'm not sure if the metal slug would heat up... It'd be better safe than sorry.
09:39 <ConfusionRift> And a smaller projectile increases the chances of keelhauling, breaking everything just as badly.
09:39 <Alice> That'd be the other issue to deal with. Accuracy.
09:39 <ConfusionRift> In this case, it heavily depends on what it's getting launched.
09:40 <Alice> What's the usual composition of a barrel for a gun?
09:40 <Alice> Steel?
09:41 <ConfusionRift> Depends. Mostly steel, and damascus by the fancy.
09:42 <Alice> Which are ferrous, and thus would be affected by magnetic fields. You wouldn't be able to use a rifled steel barrel and a typical metal bullet for a coilgun setup.
09:43 <Alice> You'd either just launch the barrel with the bullet, or it'd suffer catastrophic damage to whatever mounting system you use to hold the barrel in place.
09:44 * ConfusionRift nods.
09:44 <Alice> So you'd need to use either a non-ferrous metal, or some other high-durability material that can be bored for bullet usage without it breaking from accelerating the bullet.
09:45 <ConfusionRift> Hmmmmm.
09:48 <Alice> Hum, I would have expected my parents to be up by now.
09:48 <Alice> They're planning to go down to Toronto.
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09:55 <Alice> Speak of the devil.
09:55 <ConfusionRift> They have been beckoned. :P
09:59 <Finwe> Achievement unlocked: dry laundry picked up from the lines.
09:59 <Finwe> But wait - there's more.
09:59 <Finwe> Some ironing still to be done.
09:59 <Schism> Finwe: https://habitica.com/static/home
10:00 <Schism> Alice, you might like that too. :P
10:00 <Finwe> :D
10:02 <Alice> Heh.
10:11 * Alice gets some simple rendering going. Boxes, circles, triangles oh my.
10:12 <Schism> Weather is sometimes peculiar. https://twitter.com/mcdonaldobs/status/1293570650498637826
10:12 * Alice realizes she spent so much time on coding and such that she forgot to do the rest of her exercise sets. Goes to resolve that.
10:13 <Finwe> Alice: Render therefore unto boxes, circles and triangles what is theirs.
10:13 <Alice> Technically it's all triangles.
10:13 <Alice> Boxes are composed of two triangles. Circles, 32 triangles. Triangles, well, one triangle per triangle.
10:15 <Finwe> Depends on your element of choice, I guess.
10:16 <Finwe> Triangular meshes have some jolly good properties.
10:17 <Alice> In this case, anything "filled in" so to speak, has to be composed of triangles.
10:17 <Alice> Such is the nature of 3D graphics.
10:17 <Finwe> You could use a spherical mesh. o3o
10:17 <Alice> A spherical mesh is, itself composed of triangles.
10:17 <Alice> A GPU only knows how to render triangles.
10:18 <Finwe> Yup, but suppose you did not have that limitation.
10:18 <Alice> Then yeah, other shapes are possible. Problem is, they're harder to draw out, apparently.
10:19 <Alice> Points, lines, and triangles. These are the basic primitives you have access to. Used to be you also had access to other primitive types, but those days are gone, because in reality they were just the drivers/GPU decomposing the more complex shape into triangles.
10:20 <Alice> And even then, points and lines are finicky.
10:22 <Alice> Non-triangular shapes could probably be done with GPGPU, but good luck with that.
10:23 <Alice> The problem with GPUs is that they have a lot more constraints on them for code than your standard CPU.
10:23 * PrincessRainbows whimpers and grabby hooves at ConfusionRift
10:23 * ConfusionRift grabbies and pets PrincessRainbows.
10:30 <Alice> Essentially, the limiting factor is how parallel the GPGPU program is, in regards to memory read/writes, synchronization, etc. And how much branching there is in the program.
10:31 <Alice> While GPUs can handle branches, they are ill advised. They're slow.
10:33 <Alice> So any algorithms you design for rendering non-traditional shapes into a 2D buffer for presentation onto a screen will have to take into consideration the way GPUs work.
10:33 <RazorSharpFang> You could do branchless programming, but that's pretty difficult for quite a few problems.
10:33 <Alice> Which means going for as much branchless code as possible, and avoiding reading/writing to pixels being handled by other instances of the program.
10:35 <Alice> You can also do multi-pass algorithms, so you don't explicitly need to do everything in a single pass.
10:35 <Alice> Or combine information from multiple input sources to create a final image, etc.
10:36 <RazorSharpFang> You could just do a neural network in it to get the answer as well.
10:36 <Alice> Ahahaha, let's not.
10:39 * RazorSharpFang does a lot of matrix multiplication
10:47 * Alice graghs. Head hurts. =.=;
10:49 <Alice> Propranolol, it does something to my brain to help deal with the headaches, but at the cost of making me so groggy and tired I may as well not even be alive.
10:49 <Alice> Without it, I have to rely on other methods of pain management.
10:50 * PrincessRainbows boops ConfusionRift repeatedly and hugs really tight
10:51 * ConfusionRift huggles PrincessRainbows.
11:03 <Schism> Pfffffff
11:03 <Schism> "I spotted an albino Dalmatian today. Least I could do for the poor thing."
11:04 <Alice> ...
11:07 <Schism> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garden-path_sentence
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11:19 <ConfusionRift> Rocket is finally done! Hmm, a name, it needs.
11:20 <Schism> Hah, funny. Sara recently released new patches for Ys and Ys II.
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11:23 <Alice> o/` Reaper, reaper, that's what people call me. Why? 'Cause they all die, when I sing I end their lives. You act though payback makes you a nobleman, is that a fact? Well you're a god damned philistine! o/`
11:23 * PrincessRainbows licks the ConfusionRift and makes random little filly noises
11:24 <Schism> Oh, Alice? If you ever watch the Science Adventure series, be advised that Chaos;Child is... very different from the other three.
11:24 <Alice> Heh.
11:25 <Alice> Man, firing two anti-materiel rifles at the same time. Gotta be a lot of kickback to that.
11:25 <Schism> Fire them opposite to one another! *squish*
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11:26 <Alice> Huh. So that's what anti-materiel is. Wait. Those are rifles for taking out military equipment? What?
11:26 <Schism> Sure, materiel is a catchall term for military hardware.
11:27 <Alice> Yeah, I only learned that a minute ago.
11:28 <Alice> I'll be honest, I'd like to fire one on a target range. I'm not sure there are any target ranges in Canada(Or even the US, I would imagine), that would let me fire one.
11:28 <Alice> ConfusionRift, what do you think?
11:28 <Schism> Ah, you should read Schlock Mercenary when you have the time. o3o And I imagine that such a rifle would definitely be fun to shoot.
11:29 <Schism> "Comparing military "materiel" to civilian "equipment," we find that materiel costs more, is almost always manufactured by the lowest bidder, and someone is much more likely to get killed if it fails..."
11:30 <Alice> Long-range rifles are about the only guns I'm willing to handle and fire. In civilian hands, they are basically nothing more than sports weapons. Sharpshooting.
11:31 <ConfusionRift> Anti-material rifle recoil depends on what it is. There are recoiless rifles that use the force of the projectile in use to manage the recoil itself. Whereas there are some that will push you well enough to give you a nice whiplash.
11:31 <Alice> In the above context, Barrett M82.
11:32 <ConfusionRift> Funny thing about that one...
11:32 <ConfusionRift> It isn't considered one.
11:32 <Alice> Oh? Wikipedia says otherwise.
11:32 <Alice> "The Barrett M82A1, standardized by the U.S. military as the M107, is a recoil-operated, semi-automatic anti-materiel precision rifle"
11:33 <Schism> There are additionally weapons which deal with the recoil (because there's no such thing as recoilless) by firing a heavier projectile in the opposite direction simultaneously.
11:34 <ConfusionRift> Sorry. In the context of restrictions, I can purchase and use one. At least, in here. Would I ever? Noooonononoooo. Now, many others similar are heavily restricted.
11:34 <Alice> Heh.
11:34 <Alice> It's unfortunate. I wouldn't mind trying to hit a distant shooting-range target with such a rifle.
11:34 <Alice> The amount of skill required to use any sort of precision, long-range rifle, especially at extreme distances..
11:35 <ConfusionRift> Or, you can go with something chambered in .338 Lapua.
11:36 * PrincessRainbows barks like a good little horse and curls up under ConfusionRift. Nini
11:37 <ConfusionRift> The .50BMG is mostly used for long range destructive purposes, mostly to take out or slowdown targets from afar. The .338 Lapua was made specifically for long range.
11:37 <Alice> Knowing me, I'd fire the gun and literally dislocate my shoulder.
11:37 * ConfusionRift lightly patpats PrincessRainbows.
11:37 <Alice> The only gun I've ever fired was a slightly long-rangish(?) pellet gun.
11:38 <Alice> It was at my cousin's place, who lived out in the country. Had a metal barrel set out as a target. Managed to somehow hit it on my first and only try.
11:38 <ConfusionRift> The .50 caliber rifles all use a muzzle brake that's supposed to manage most of the recoil. It will still kick, but far less thatn it would normally be.
11:40 <ConfusionRift> Not saying it won't kick, because it will. It's mostly about shouldering and huggling that stock to your side as you can.
11:40 * PrincessRainbows rolls onto her back and barks at ConfusionRift for belly rubs before bed
11:40 <ConfusionRift> Most bad injuries by the such are caused by shouldering/positioning a rifle incorrectly.
11:41 * ConfusionRift rubrubs PrincessRainbows belly. :P
11:43 <ConfusionRift> Now, there's one thing that scares me more than a .50BMG, and that's the .959 JDJ. You will never see it. If you do, you have permission to decline its use. Just in case, it's a hunting caliber, not anti-material. HOWEVER, it's far worse than the .50.
11:44 <Alice> In what way?
11:45 * Filly_Nightmares murrs and curls up on Alice
11:46 * Filly_Nightmares yawnskrees and nibbles on ConfusionRift next
11:47 <Alice> ...
11:47 <Alice> While the pain is minimal..
11:48 <Alice> My body is acting like it is astounding.
11:48 <Alice> My skin is freakin' crawling.
11:48 <Alice> And my stomach... Yeah, it just did a 720.
11:48 * Filly_Nightmares snugglies into Alice warms and yawnskrees
11:48 * Filly_Nightmares is sleepy floofy
11:48 * Filly_Nightmares lickies da pain away
11:49 <ConfusionRift> 1) The rifle in question is heavier. 2) The bullet itself is bigger, and much heavier. 3) With the such, it carries a greater charge. 4) The muzzle energy is greater, with twice as much force behind it than a .50BMG. 5) VERY expensive, very rare.
11:50 <Alice> Heh.
11:50 * Filly_Nightmares wigglewaggles
11:50 * Filly_Nightmares haz rumble tummy
11:50 * Alice suddenly and unexpectedly runs off to vomit.
11:51 <Schism> UErgh.
11:51 <ConfusionRift> Oooh.
11:51 * Filly_Nightmares uses Schism as a blankie
11:57 <Alice> ...
11:57 * Filly_Nightmares curls up into floof ball and goes sleepies on
11:57 * Filly_Nightmares uses ConfusionRift as pillow and sleepies
11:57 <Alice> Why the [REDACTED] is my nose so full of infected material today? Yesterday, it was clean as a whistle, crystal clear. Now, it's like there's a gods damned war of bacteria up there. No wonder I got a headache.
11:58 <Alice> I've been wearing headphones, though, so...
11:59 <Alice> But holy fracking hell.
11:59 <Alice> I want to gouge out my left eye.
11:59 <Schism> Alice: Gaaah. @_@
11:59 <Alice> For obvious reasons I won't.
12:00 * Alice curls up on the floor as her stomach starts acting up again. "Why...?"
12:01 <Schism> Better out than in...?
12:03 <Alice> It shouldn't be going out the wrong way at all, just because of something in my nose. @3@;
12:04 <Alice> Sometimes, when these particular case of headaches happen, I debate going into the ER, and intentionally, whether or not it's actually that bad, acting as if it is excrutiating and I am in need of immediate medical attention.
12:04 <Alice> Just so that I can get a damned doctor on me ASAP while the headache is occurring.
12:06 <Schism> I know the feeling, but... by the time the doctor actually got around to seeing you, that would have already resolved itself. ._.
12:07 <Alice> That's usually what happens in 99% of cases.
12:07 <Alice> And attempting to schedule an appointment to get in and see a doctor a slight bit more quickly after I arrive? Yeah, nothing will be wrong.
12:07 <Alice> My ENT swears to me, up and down, constantly, that my sinuses look fine.
12:07 <Alice> And I can't get a second opinion in this city.
12:08 <Alice> Because if my ENT says they're fine, no one else is going to question it. He's the best ENT in the entire city, hands down.
12:09 <Alice> Trust me. I tried.
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12:10 <Alice> Clinic and hospital doctors alike, when they hear who my ENT was, they argue that getting a second opinion is pointless.
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12:18 * Alice goes and takes some triptan to see if that helps at all.
12:22 * ConfusionRift releases all of the creature in his containment unit, and keep the Cuddlefish. Shuts everything down, stores all his equipment, and boards the rocket. He steps up and... no, he climbs back down, and releases the Cuddlefish as well. Pets, then into the rocket he goes, into the BYETHX4DAFISH. And takes off.
12:23 <ConfusionRift> I can take this one off the queue list.
12:24 <Alice> Heh.
12:26 * Alice sighs.
12:26 <Alice> I was supposed to get housework done. Now..
12:26 <ConfusionRift> Hmm?
12:26 <Alice> Headache, nausea, dizziness.
12:27 <Alice> My parents don't want me doing housework now.
12:28 <Schism> Definitely not, in that state.
12:28 <ConfusionRift> Yeah, would be better to avoid that.
12:29 * Alice grabs the Service Weapon, changes it to Charge, and puts it up against the metaphysical manifestation of the sinus infection. Charges. Misses.
12:30 * ConfusionRift sees a hole on the ceiling. ._.
12:33 * Lumindia yawns
12:33 * Lumindia hugs Schism muchly
12:38 <Alice> ... Yes, Spitfire, I'm on my laptop, do yer little balancing act, please.
12:38 <Alice> Ow. Ow ow. Ow. Owwww. Owies.
12:50 <Alice> Hum.
12:51 <Alice> I'm not legally allowed to obtain a firearms license in Canada.
12:51 <Finwe> Why so?
12:51 <Finwe> Well, neither am I in Finland, as I am not in a shooting or hunting club.
12:51 <Alice> I am ineligible because I have been treated for mental illness in a hospital.
12:52 <Alice> Section 5, subsection 2.b of the Firearms Act of Canada.
12:53 <ConfusionRift> Aah.
12:54 <Finwe> Oh, except that I might still be eligible, because of military reasons.
12:54 <Alice> "has been treated for a mental illness, whether in hospital, mental institution, psychiatric clinic or otherwise and whether or not the person was confined to such a hospital, institute or clinic, that was associated with violence or threatened or attempted violence on the part of the person against any person;"
12:56 <ConfusionRift> Yeah, Canadian firearm laws are far more strict, especially with recent incidents.
12:58 <ConfusionRift> Also unsure about how firing range restrictions work.
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12:59 <Alice> I wonder what is considered a sporting rifle in Canada.
13:00 <Alice> Because apparently such rifles are considered non-restricted.
13:00 <Alice> I'm going to assume rifles used in sporting events, so for clay pigeon or target practice.
13:01 <ConfusionRift> Aaaactuallyyyyy... I'm looking at the restricted list, and it's... what is considered a sporter rifle there?
13:01 <Alice> I have no idea.
13:01 <Alice> https://store.theshootingcentre.com/firearms/rifles/modern-sporting Hum.
13:02 <ConfusionRift> What. The. Hell.
13:02 <Alice> Let's see..
13:02 <Alice> https://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/en/firearms/classes-firearms
13:04 <Alice> Basic gist appears to be "Any semi-automatic or automatic, or under a certain length" is restricted/prohibited.
13:05 <Alice> So, for example, a long-range rifle, so long as it's say, bolt-action or some other form of chambering, should, in theory, be allowed.
13:06 <ConfusionRift> Most bolt actions exceed the barrel restriction, are manual, and magazines hold no more than single digit amounts.
13:07 <ConfusionRift> But basically, MSRs are restricted.
13:08 <ConfusionRift> Oh yeah, and "black rifles" or scary rifles, are strictly prohibited.
13:09 <ConfusionRift> Which is absolutely hilarious.
13:09 <Alice> I'm assuming the MSR is restricted because it can be disassembled/assembled.
13:09 * ConfusionRift shrugs.
13:09 <ConfusionRift> These laws are filled with fright signs.
13:10 <Alice> In any case, I wouldn't be able to purchase one, mental health aside. I'd have to store it off-site, at an authorized shooting range or something.
13:10 <Alice> No way it'd be allowed in this house.
13:10 <ConfusionRift> Yeah, that's another.
13:11 <Nedemai> these rifles make me nervous
13:11 <ConfusionRift> Thank you for proving my point.
13:12 <Nedemai> what makes me nervouse is semi-automatic
13:12 <Nedemai> I can understand being used in competitive sport, no issue there.
13:13 <Nedemai> but I always get this picture in my head of someone mowing down wildlife claiming they are "hunting"
13:13 <ConfusionRift> Hold on.
13:14 <Nedemai> thats my own hangups
13:14 <Nedemai> not about to project them on people I don't know enough
13:14 <ConfusionRift> That. I can agree. I really don't see why would anyone use, let's say, an AR-15 for hunting.
13:14 <Nedemai> thats both funny and horrifying to think about
13:15 <Alice> And yet, the fact that one can think of the idea of doing so, means that somewhere, someone has legitimately tried, or will try.
13:15 <ConfusionRift> Actually, just recently saw a vid of someone following that same principle.
13:15 <Nedemai> and then what, youd be pulling bullets from the carcass...
13:15 <Nedemai> it just seems silyl
13:16 <ConfusionRift> I guess there's your supply of iron... more like lead and copper.
13:16 <Nedemai> I guess Im assuming that theyd want to clean the meat
13:16 <Alice> To be honest, if you're hunting with an AR-15, I don't think you're actually hunting.
13:16 <Alice> I think you're just being an arse who needs his rush of superiority complex for the day.
13:18 <ConfusionRift> The one I saw was trying to prove a point. His point was that in an emergency situation in which one had no choice but to hunt something with what they got, it was doable. In this case, 9mm was brought into question. One would say, "I guess he went for his pistol", right? Nope! An AR-9 pistol. All went out the window.
13:19 <Nedemai> I would never assume that is a pistol by looking at it
13:20 <ConfusionRift> Pistol designation with what's normally considered a rifle can be... iffy to get, especially in more restricted states/countries.
13:20 * Alice looks up the AR-9 "... That's a pistol?"
13:20 <Nedemai> yup same reaction lol
13:22 <Finwe> Mr Nedemai.
13:22 * Finwe doffs his hat.
13:22 <Nedemai> heya Finwe
13:22 <ConfusionRift> And AR-9 pistol configuration basically is an AR-15 chambered in 9mm, with shorter barrel, and no stock. It's considered a pistol because it uses a barrel shorter than 18 inches, and has no firm recoil management to shoulder.
13:23 <ConfusionRift> Normally, they just have the buffer tube hanging with nothing, or have a pistol brace.
13:23 <Alice> And yet, every picture of the AR-9 on Wikipedia makes it look like a rifle or SMG.
13:23 <Alice> Er, Google*
13:24 <Alice> Honestly it looks kind of ridiculous.
13:25 * ConfusionRift shrugs. "Everyone who has one tends to tacti-coolize them."
13:25 <Alice> Heh.
13:25 <Alice> Guh.
13:25 <Alice> When did I take that triptan..?
13:26 <Alice> Over an hour ago. I can take another if I need to.
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13:27 * Alice does so.
13:27 <ConfusionRift> I actually got a pistol config AR-15. The idea was to have something of a smaller print, as a just in case I have to bug out. Nothing special. Just a shorter barrel, a blade brace, and a carry handle. No super scopes, red dots, or anything super fancy.
13:28 <Alice> Meanwhile, I'll just have to live with a compound bow or a sword.
13:29 <ConfusionRift> Hey, don't knock those compound bows. They can be just as effective, and in occasions, even better.
13:30 <ConfusionRift> Also, you can reuse an arrow, not a bullet. :P
13:30 <ConfusionRift> And you just need to keep a sword sharp.
13:30 <Alice> Actually, wait, no, I can't.
13:31 <ConfusionRift> Let me guess. Similar restrictions?
13:31 <Alice> Apparently bows are considered firearms in Ontario.
13:31 <ConfusionRift> Of course.
13:31 <ConfusionRift> More fright signs.
13:31 <Alice> It's not a restricted or prohibited firearm.
13:32 <ConfusionRift> But you still need a PAL.
13:32 <Alice> It's just, I need a firearm license and such.
13:32 <Alice> And because of mental health, noooope~
13:32 <ConfusionRift> A machete it is!
13:32 <Alice> Probably can't even own one of THOSE.
13:33 <Alice> Of course..
13:33 <Alice> If I'm in a position where I would, as you say, "bug out"
13:33 <Alice> I don't think the laws matter at that point.
13:33 <Alice> Because something has gone horribly wrong.
13:35 <ConfusionRift> Yep! But still. Would rather follow the law during the time everything "normal", so that there's no questioning or such during that time. So when it does come time to bug out, I still got what I need.
13:36 <Alice> Mmhmm.
13:36 <Alice> In any case, outside of a select set of weapons that are concealable, blades seem to be legal for anyone to carry.
13:37 <ConfusionRift> So basically something pocket size that doesn't exceed a specific length?
13:38 <Alice> https://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/import/iefw-iefa-eng.html Anything under Prohibited Weapons and Devices. Mostly, knuckle-dusters, spring-loaded knives, and a few others.
13:39 * ConfusionRift chuckles at the knuckle dusters.
13:40 <Alice> At most though, I'd likely just have a wooden sword. As it is, my mother has trouble with even a butcher's knife in the house.
13:42 <ConfusionRift> A bokken maybe?
13:42 <Alice> More or less.
13:42 <Alice> Typical sword used in kendo training.
13:43 <Alice> I'd have it for all of a day or three. Mostly because my dad would take it away after my mother requests I bonk him on the head with it for something stupid he says.
13:43 <Alice> And yes, my mother would ask me to do that.
13:43 <Alice> This family is dysfunctional as hell.
13:44 <ConfusionRift> Ah, a shinai. But man, a good bokken is still relatively cheap.
13:46 <ConfusionRift> I got one as well. The hilt is missing, but no need in the case of bonking someone on the noggin'.
13:48 <Alice> Heh.
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13:50 <ConfusionRift> Maybe... maybe get a foam one. :P
13:51 * Alice wants to get off the roller coaster and stop wanting to vomit.
13:55 * PrincessRainbows hugs ConfusionRift and flops, cause sleeping is hard
13:56 <Alice> The weirdest bits of this is when the nausea kicks in, and various parts of my body just start tingling or feeling like the skin is crawling, and something with respect to my vision seems way off.
13:56 * ConfusionRift huggles PrincessRainbows as well.
13:56 <ConfusionRift> o_0
13:56 <PrincessRainbows> Takes too long and on days like this I just can't handle the wandering thoughts
13:56 <Alice> Like, I'm laying here, looking at the fireplace mantle. Particularly the corner of it, and something about it just doesn't look right. I don't know how to express it.
13:57 <ConfusionRift> Like, vision seems sorta tilted?
13:57 <Alice> No. Not tilted.
13:57 <ConfusionRift> Or something of depth?
13:58 <Alice> Something of depth. Or, in terms of computer games, an incorrectly set field-of-view.
13:58 <PrincessRainbows> I guess I'll just have to wait until I pass out from exhaustivo
13:58 <Alice> That is, things look elongated.
13:59 <ConfusionRift> Yeah, that's kinda what I meant. Things seem elongated, further than they should, or somewhat pulsating in between.
13:59 <Alice> Mmhmm.
14:00 <Alice> And there is of course the ever-pervasive pain.
14:00 <Alice> Gone down a bit, but still there.
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14:15 <Alice> I'm gonna go take a shower, see if it helps a bit.
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14:21 <ConfusionRift> Sleeeeppppaaaah...
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14:28 <Alice> Wow.. WOW. Okay, I need to sit down and stay down.
14:44 <Alice> https://imgur.com/gallery/5UqXCTx
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16:04 * Alice orders some wings for dinner. Spicy wings. And a greek salad
16:10 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Makenshi: Nightmare Rarity Music: RedSpark - Fabulous Nightmare [Melbourne Bounce] [ http://tinyurl.com/yxlfdz58 ]
17:01 <Alice> https://twitter.com/aims2koz/status/1293954496863727620
17:14 * Alice graghs, gets up. "Chores... I have chores I need to do. Vacuum the upstairs, the stairway, and the living room." She gets up, wobbles and nearly falls over as she makes her way upstairs.
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17:38 <Alice> I scared the ever living hell out of Tizzy.
17:38 <Alice> She apparently holed herself up in a corner of the bathroom. When I went to vacuum it, I "trapped" her accidentally, and she just started freaking out as she tried to get away, scrambling and jumping to try and get out of her corner.
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18:10 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Popup Dungeon Finally Released! [ http://tinyurl.com/y4q5blrz ]
18:36 <Alice> Tizzy has discovered the A/C.
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21:00 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Drawfriend Stuff (Pony Art Gallery) #3430 [ http://tinyurl.com/yy5lvw4z ]
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21:20 <Schism> Alice: Rawr. https://i.imgur.com/ewAth46.mp4
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22:05 * Filly_Nightmares sneezies
22:07 * Schism provides Filly_Nightmares wif a tissue.
22:08 * PinkieShy licks Schism
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22:45 * Ali tries to flop over Schism or PinkieShy
22:45 * PinkieShy falls over
22:45 <PinkieShy> How's it going pal :D
22:47 <Ali> Meh, had to be out and about today..
22:53 <Schism> Darnit... I need to go grocery shopping tomorrow. Am hungryfox. *eyes rice*
22:54 * Ali noms all the Schism cookies
22:56 * PinkieShy puts a wolf at house 7 and tells the wolf to eat house 9
22:56 <PinkieShy> now 7 ate 9 >:D
22:56 * Schism gwars at Ali. "Now I have to make more." She grumbles, then considers lemon shortbreads.
22:57 <Schism> (At least Alis don't eat shortbread batter.)
22:58 * Ali wunts more chocolate chip T.T
22:58 <Schism> I am out of choklit chip! Well, sorta. I have a half melted bag I could use to coat some shortbreads.
22:59 <Schism> Though if I did *that*, I'd probably want something other than lemon. Maybe just chocolate-covered cranberry shortbreads.
23:02 * Schism eyebrows at Epic's shenanigans.
23:03 <PinkieShy> I kinda wanna make brownies soon...
23:03 <PinkieShy> Either that or peanut butter cookies :)
23:03 <Schism> Peanut butter brownies.
23:03 <PinkieShy> Oooo :D that sounds good.
23:04 <Schism> Take uncooked brownies in pan, dollop several teaspoonfuls of slightly melted peanut butter at various points, take knife, swirl peanut butter around.
23:08 <PinkieShy> I usually use brownie mix the betty crocker brand..
23:08 <PinkieShy> Might still be able to do that.. :3
23:10 * Ali lays on Schism, is trying to get yet another Factorio achievement
23:10 * Schism headtilts there. "Is it the one where you only build a few items yourself?"
23:11 <Ali> Lazy *yay*? I've already got it.
23:12 <PinkieShy> How did I... misread that.. :/
23:12 <Ali> I'm only missing all techs, 10k delivered by bots, run over by a train, survive a 500 damage hit, 400k irons an hour, 25k reds an hour, 5k blues an hour, and 20M greens
23:12 <PinkieShy> I read what you said as "Lazy year"
23:12 <Ali> Its a word I don't want to use in here cause not PG
23:13 <Schism> Lazy hand-and-a-half [sword]?
23:13 <Schism> Ali, how are you missing run over by a train?
23:14 <Ali> Cause I tend to avoid getting hit
23:14 <Ali> And every time I HAVE been run over, its by the car, not the train itself
23:14 <Schism> Take one for the achievement! Plus, if you survive the first one, that's 500 damage right there.
23:14 <Ali> I don't really have any trains running at the moment
23:15 <Ali> I mean there's no bugs so there's no worries there
23:15 <Schism> Oh. That's fair~
23:15 <Ali> I mean, I do have trains, but they aren't just flying about right now, nor very often.
23:17 <Ali> This green circuit facility has me so dang confused though
23:18 <Ali> Always one side is missing required items
23:21 <PinkieShy> oh god..
23:21 <PinkieShy> Just saw a youtube video of a man who left a snickers bar in mouthwash for 6 months.. Just the look of the video is turning my stomach.. Can't finish this video.. O__O
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23:39 <Schism> Epic v. Apple... okay, I see no problem in letting them fight.
23:40 <Ali> Dun't like either, so they can fight it out.
23:46 <Schism> Hum. Fortnite's been removed from Google Play, too. Time will tell if they file another suit against Google, because while there's something to be said about taking on one six-hundred-ton gorilla, two might be a bit much.
23:47 <Ali> Why did Google remove it?
23:47 <Schism> Same bypass of the app store's cut, I imagine.
23:47 <Ali> I saw a blip somewhere about vbucks
23:47 <Schism> In the case of Apple, the statement was made that a feature was added to the app without their approval. I'm not sure if that'll hold water as far as Google is concerned.
23:48 <Schism> Apple at least tries to do a bit more curation on their store.
23:49 <Ali> Yes, like free games that stonewall you hard for days cause you can't speed up their 100 day wait to build something cause of gems or the like that cost real life money
23:49 <Ali> I remember the pony game making Celestia worth $100 US
23:50 <Schism> https://thepunchlineismachismo.com/archives/comic/certainly-not-the-guy-who-just-threw-his-phone-away-instead-of-uninstalling-the-app
23:51 <Ali> Pretty much
23:56 <Schism> ... okay. So, we all know the first and second rules of gun safety.
23:57 * Ali headtilts at Schism
23:57 <Schism> A man who pointed a loaded gun at his genitalia, though, whereupon there was a negligent discharge -- and this had happened twice before, albeit not as disastrously -- is now being praised amongst certain groups as a folk hero.
23:57 <Schism> https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/y3zeew/gun-enthusiasts-celebrate-man-who-shot-himself-in-the-balls-as-their-king
23:58 <Ali> Wut....
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