00:34 <PrincessRainbows> Client?
00:36 * Alice watches some TAS runs. "..." Imagines the code comments. "This code is guaranteed to keep the player out of walls and floors." *20 years later* *Player is using something in relevant code to warp across the map*
00:48 * Ali baps Alice with sticks and dies at the same time they do, and wrong warps to the credits
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01:09 <PrincessRainbows> On the upside it did calm me down. Otoh it's a bit too much for me. Nap time
01:20 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Community Soapbox - Luster Dawn's Parents, Flurry's Future, and More! [ http://tinyurl.com/y5y2sm9d ]
01:23 <Alice> Annoyingly, there is one game from my childhood, that due to my age at the time, I cannot completely recall. And for some reason, a single image stuck with me, and I have no idea why. And the information from the image is... limited.
01:24 <Alice> Sidescroller of some sort. Blue background. Character was standing on top of an empty(That is, edges are defined, but interior is open space) triangle of red circles. Character was the same size as the circles. This is legitimately all I can recall of the game, and this image is bloody engraved into my brain permanently.
01:32 * Lumindia flops on Schism
01:32 <Lumindia> so FC Map night was a success again
01:34 <Lumindia> 521k gil, plus the rare map mats
01:34 <Lumindia> which is another 1.5m-2m
02:30 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Nightly Discussion #2264 [ http://tinyurl.com/yxagduud ]
02:40 * PrincessRainbows is finally awake again
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04:41 <Finwe> Good morning, everypony!
04:41 <Finwe> Mlles Ali, Alice, Filly_Nightmares, PrincessRainbows and Schism; Messrs Golden, Lumindia, Nedemai and PinkieShy.
04:41 * Finwe doffs his hat.
04:45 * PrincessRainbows barks at Finwe and chews on his hat
04:47 * Finwe hats on an Ali.
04:52 <Golden> hi..
05:01 * Ali huggles on the Finwe tightly.
05:02 * PrincessRainbows hugs Ali and whimpers
05:11 * Finwe ruffles a PrincessRainbows.
05:32 * Ali ruffles a Finwe and yawns loudly.
05:33 * Finwe sticks his hoof into Ali's gaping muzzle.
05:34 * Ali squeaks and then noms Finwe hoof
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06:29 * PrincessRainbows also hugs Finwe and flops
06:40 * PrincessRainbows grabs her favorite pacifier and plushie and curls up under Ali for sleepies. Nini
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07:15 <ConfusionRift> Hello everypony.
07:15 * Ali flops over the ConfusionRift
07:15 * ConfusionRift huggles Ali.
07:15 * Ali leans into hugs, unicorn needed them
07:19 * ConfusionRift nods and continues.
07:19 <ConfusionRift> It's been a complete mess.
07:21 <Ali> Well I had blood work, not the most exciting thing for someone who's scared of needles
07:22 <ConfusionRift> Yeah, don't do well with needles either.
07:22 <Ali> So I got valium'd up
07:22 <Ali> Took about 30ish minutes before it kicked my ass.
07:23 <ConfusionRift> Guh.
07:24 <Ali> Been wanting to do something today, but just don't know what.
07:25 <ConfusionRift> Same. Just got home from work, sat down... and just spaced out for like an hour.
07:25 <ConfusionRift> Listening to music to keep my head up.
07:26 <Ali> Understandable
07:28 * Ali hugs ConfusionRift softly
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07:37 * ConfusionRift patpats Ali.
07:37 <ConfusionRift> Probably gonna stare at the game list for a while.
07:42 <Ali> Know how that feels ConfusionRift
07:43 <Ali> I haven't touched the Factory in awhile and honestly don't want to touch it alone.
07:43 <ConfusionRift> Don't mind jumping in, not solo though.
07:44 <ConfusionRift> I know Ceph and Razor were working on filling the eastern lake to make more space, and the work on the rocket parts.
07:49 <ConfusionRift> Map getting pretty big.
07:50 * Golden flops.
08:06 * PrincessRainbows hugs ConfusionRift and flops too. Can't sleep again...
08:06 <PrincessRainbows> just too ugh
08:07 <PrincessRainbows> my underlying anxiety disorder had stayed stably mild then ugh
08:08 <PrincessRainbows> also I had to take something to calm down earlier ani thus I already slept quite a bit
08:12 * ConfusionRift huggles PrincessRainbows.
08:15 <PrincessRainbows> sometimes I wonder, is the struggle even worth it anymore
09:39 * Alice fills in a lake with dirt.
09:39 <Alice> Well, more a lot of stone.
09:40 <ConfusionRift> We're on. :P
09:40 <ConfusionRift> And yeah... a whole lot of them dirt.
09:42 <Alice> I won't be on this morning. My mother will be home soon and she wants to do a bunch of housework with me before she goes to bed.
09:42 <ConfusionRift> Aah, okaday.
09:50 * Schism looks at The Gamer. "Chicken heads...?"
10:03 * PrincessRainbows looks up at ConfusionRift with teary eyes and grabby hooves
10:05 * ConfusionRift grabbies PrincessRainbows and pets.
10:07 <PrincessRainbows> I may be in a situation where I have to just deal with the fallout. Anyway I guess I'll try to sleep. Laters
10:08 * ConfusionRift lightly pats. "Have at least you have a good rest."
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10:16 <Schism> These look refreshing. https://www.etsy.com/ca/listing/631072256/can-pillows?ref=shop_home_feat_2
10:21 <ConfusionRift> Really like these. :P
10:21 <Schism> I could go for some OwO.
10:27 <Alice> "Make sure not to give mom any ideas about doing the chores later." "Okay." "... Make sure not to give mom any ideas about doing the chores later. HINT HINT." "... Okay."
10:28 * Alice goes back to sleep. =.=
10:33 <Alice> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIjBwp1b6BE Before that though, have a blast from the past.
10:34 * ConfusionRift hits that Genesis twang hard. :P
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10:36 <Alice> I had the Gamegear version of that game. Played the hell out of it. Preferred it to Tetris by far.
10:37 <Schism> Gotta love Puyo Puyo. o3o
10:39 <Alice> Mmhmm.
10:48 <Alice> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJSnO8dzuiI Mmm... The speed. This is my kind of speed for racing.
10:48 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.
10:48 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Sonic Unleashed - Jungle Joyride (Adabat Day) - Redout Edition
10:52 <Alice> And yet, you can go faster: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZnJP0EWD4E
10:56 <RazorSharpFang> Good evening.
11:03 * Lumindia mlems at Schism and Alice
11:04 * Schism bleps.
11:05 <Schism> https://mckitterick.tumblr.com/post/181302607095
11:09 * Alice zips around Lumindia at speeds of over 1,500km/hr. o3o
11:09 * Schism looks, in contrast, at Jokamiehenluokka.
11:17 * Lumindia tosses a seacloth at Schism
11:18 <Lumindia> FC Map night was profitable
11:18 <Lumindia> made an ez 2m
11:20 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Morning Discussion #2037 [ http://tinyurl.com/y4jh2l98 ]
11:20 <Schism> Noice.
11:23 <Alice> Hum. 500 DPI in both dimensions, 1 dot = 1m, 1500km = 416.667 meters per second. So after 1 seconds, you'd cross approximately 75% of the "screen". Even at 240Hz, the highest frequency I've seen for gaming monitors, that's still more than one dot per frame.
11:28 <Alice> It's pretty sad that I have to warn both parents not to open a package I am expecting.
11:36 <Alice> Hum, the biggest issue to increasing frequencies for internal clocks and frame rates is time.
11:37 <Schism> Pffft. https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/mens
11:39 <Alice> If the update and frequency are the same, the total amount of time you can spend per update+render is equal to 1/N seconds, where N is the frequency. Conventional games typically run at 30 or 60 FPS, right now, so... 0.0333 and 0.0167 seconds, respectively. Things become a bit more complicated if you decide to desync frequency and framerate.
11:43 <Alice> If the frequency is LOWER than the frame rate, you can either simply render the same scene multiple frames, which results in the game appearing to run at the frequency, even if you render the game at twice, thrice, and so on, of the frequency. That is, 30 updates/sec, 60 FPS would look like it's running at 30 FPS, even if the system is rendering at 60 FPS without issue.
11:43 <Alice> You can get around this via interpolation. But that introduces a NEW problem.
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11:46 * Ali prepares the launch rocket button
11:46 <Alice> Go nuts.
11:46 <Alice> I've seen a rocket launch, nothing special for me to be around for.
11:46 <Alice> Just put the research towards worker robot speed, please. :P
11:46 <Ali> Just saying that we got the rocket silo thing
11:47 <Ali> Its been quite the change for me to get this up
11:47 <Alice> Yeah, I built a rocket silo a while back. :P
11:47 <Alice> But I know what you mean.
11:48 * Alice hums. "The problem with slower frequency with higher frame rate, if you opt to simply redraw the last state, is the slower framerate appearance. To get around it, interpolation is the best solution, but..."
11:48 <Ali> Just a question, why robot speed?
11:48 <Alice> Faster construction.
11:49 <Alice> That's it, simply.
11:49 <Alice> But damage also works too.
11:50 <Ali> Well the dumb bots got a distance to fly anyway to get to the stupid science so speed first.
11:51 <Alice> There's also the logistic bots flying around to get stuff delivered, yeah.
11:53 * Alice hums some more. "The issue with interpolation, though, is that you need to either know the world state one step ahead of the current state, or use logic that is deterministic."
11:56 <Alice> Typical game update/render logic is weird to visualize.
12:03 * Alice hums even MORE. "1++---2++---3++---4, the numbers are the images to be presented, the + indicates real world time spent on logic and rendering for the image that follows, the - represents time spent waiting for the next vertical refresh(If vsync is enabled), this is why vsynced games appear to not use 100% of the CPU(or individual core that the game is running on) power. This is a typical, naive approach to update
12:03 * Alice logic, but it works. Of course, it has a problem for some gamers."
12:05 <Alice> Namely, the image presented to you is of the state of the game from N seconds ago. In a competetive game, you want to see the game state ASAP. Hence higher refresh rate monitors. Or you can disable vsync, but then you introduce visual tearing, because the framebuffer(The thing that stores the image to be displayed by the display) is modified halfway through a display's update cycle. You see one half of an image, and one half
12:05 <Alice> of another image.
12:07 <Alice> Interestingly, this becomes less of an issue with higher refresh rate monitors. In other words, you don't need vsync on them.
12:08 <Alice> This of course, comes at a cost of higher CPU usage, since the CPU is now issuing draw calls as fast as it possibly can.
12:08 <Alice> "So, why can't you just update the world, and render the image just before the vertical refresh period?"
12:09 <Alice> Because there's no way to determine how much time it will take to update the world and render the image.
12:10 <RazorSharpFang> Also if they're separate thread it better be thread-safe.
12:10 <Alice> Mmhmm.
12:10 <Alice> And given that, while threading the logic heavily is not commonplace yet, threading the rendering *IS*.
12:11 <Alice> OpenGL, Vulkan, DX11/DX12, Metal, all those APIs provide functionality or extensions that allow multiple threads to issue graphics calls without the overhead of synchronization.
12:11 <Alice> Or at least, reduced overhead anyways.
12:12 <Alice> So while you probably can't update 1 million entities using 16 threads, you *CAN* send the geometry to the GPU for 1 million entities using 16 threads, splitting the workload.
12:13 <Alice> Though, some games are trivially heavily paralellizable, provided they are done right. One such style of game is danmaku/shmup.
12:14 <Alice> There's one way you can time the logic/rendering such that it's immediately before a refresh, but it makes assumptions.
12:15 <Alice> It makes the assumption that the game will take less than N seconds to perform one update, and less than N seconds to perform rendering of one frame.
12:15 <RazorSharpFang> I presume you can do a synchronisation where you split objects into N groups with each group being a thread, and have an UpdateSelf() that doesn't require write-access to other objects.
12:18 <Alice> Something like that, yeah.
12:19 <Ali> Rocket 3 is ready to launch, I've never had them go this fast. Just the other sciences can't keep up.
12:19 <Alice> In say, a danmaku game, a trivial way of implementing collision checks is to just check one entity against all other entities, even if the other entities are on the same "side" as the one being processed.
12:19 <Alice> But there's a way to improve it.
12:20 <Alice> Given the large number of bullets involved, and the relatively small number of targets for them to hit, you simply assign the entities to multiple groups. In the simplest case, "player" and "enemy."
12:21 <Alice> When you do a collision test, you only check against the entities in the opposing group.
12:21 <Alice> So for example, the hundreds of bullets from the enemy? They only have to check against a relatively small group now. The player group, which consists of at least one entity, and usually at most, one entity.
12:22 <Alice> Voila, you reduced the checks from n^2 to n.
12:22 <Alice> And it's parallelizable, to boot.
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12:22 <Alice> ...
12:23 <Alice> I'm being annoying, aren't I?
12:24 <ConfusionRift> Not really. Just don't have a response, is all.
12:25 <Alice> In any case, back to the core of the problem I was discussing. You could, in theory, assume that on X CPU with Y GPU, that logic updates will take at most N seconds in the worst case, and rendering will take at most M seconds in the worst case, and simply wait out the rest of the time if the relevant process finishes early. This guarantees that N + M is the exact amount of time needed for an update/render.
12:26 <Alice> You can subtract this from the time of the next vertical refresh, to get the exact time to start doing a logic and render update, just in time for the screen to present the most up-to-date world state.
12:27 <Alice> This is very hard to do though, because I'm pretty sure you can't get the time of the next vertical refresh.
12:28 <Alice> Quick research indicates that this is an issue being investigated with VR?
12:28 <Alice> At least, it was, four years ago.
12:29 <Alice> Because that slight delay can introduce visible lag between your motions and what you see.
12:30 <Alice> Especially given the eyes can process multiple images within say, 16.667ms.
12:30 <Alice> And that it takes less than 3-4ms for a signal to go from your motor control center to say, the tips of your fingers, give or take a millisecond.
12:31 <Alice> So, for VR, the solution is to either predict when a vblank(This is the official term for a vertical refresh, apparently) will occur, and update and render just before it, or increase the refresh rate.
12:31 <Alice> And given the extreme cost of VR equipment as is, I suspect the latter is less likely to happen.
12:32 <Alice> Last I recall, for a good VR scenario, you need to be able to achieve 90FPS.
12:33 <Alice> Which is a bit tricky because VR works by utilizing two high-density screens. Last time I saw resolution information, it was something close to 1080p for each screen.
12:33 <Alice> This is one of those situations where actually having two identical video cards might be beneficial.
12:33 <Alice> But I don't think current VR uses that.
12:35 <Alice> Hum, yeah. The Valve Index is two 1440x1600, 144hz.
12:38 <Alice> Minimum refresh rate apparently is 80, it goes 80, 90, 120, 144.
12:38 <Alice> Alas, I'll never be able to use VR.
12:38 <Alice> Not an issue with motion sickness or anything.
12:38 <Alice> I can't wear anything that'd heat up my head.
12:40 <Alice> As it is, even simple headphones heat up my head enough that I get a "It goes past 11" migraine/headache.
12:41 <Alice> I know it's not airflow, now. I've been wearing these earbuds regularly for the last week now, for hours on end, with no issues.
12:41 <Alice> So it's purely an issue with heat buildup and not radiating enough heat.
12:41 * Alice needs a radiator setup for her head.
12:42 <ConfusionRift> Going for watercooling? :P
12:42 <Alice> Liquid cooled head. A hat with a bunch of copper surfaces that attach to my head, have attachments on them to let a coolant flow through, absorb the heat, draw it away, and then off to a fan off the back of my head.
12:42 <Alice> I actually wonder how well that'd work.
12:46 <Lumindia> '-'
12:46 <Alice> ... I actually wonder.
12:47 <Alice> The core of the problem is that the increased temperature creates an environment that causes the chronic infection I have to grow.
12:47 <Alice> That growth increases pressure inside my sinuses and nose, leading to the headaches.
12:47 <Alice> But, what happens if I drop the temperature?
12:47 <Alice> Obviously, I can't drop it too far. It'd damage my brain, among other things.
12:48 <Alice> But there must be a lower limit that I can stay just above, that's outside of the infection's desired survival range.
12:48 <Alice> I can apply ice packs and such, but those only last for so long. I'd like to try something longer-term.
12:50 <Alice> At the least, I assume this is the core of the problem, anyways.
12:51 <Alice> It seems reasonable to assume, given that our ears are basically small radiators for our heads.
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12:52 * ConfusionRift flops. "Gonna crash for the sleeeeeps... laters!"
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12:54 <Alice> ...
12:55 * Alice is probably insane at this point.
12:59 * Alice looks at the news.
13:00 <Alice> Apparently, the CDC says people exposed to COVID-19 do not need testing.
13:02 <Schism> Right up until the virus mutates like mad.
13:04 <Alice> Apparently, this is driven by evidence, and not interference from the government.
13:05 * Lumindia nibbles on Schism's ear
13:05 <Lumindia> nyum
13:06 <Alice> I've reached a point where I can't wrap my head around the behaviour of the USA anymore. I never thought I'd reach this point.
13:06 <Lumindia> I live there and I don't understand it
13:08 <Alice> The other day, I had to give my dad ****.
13:08 <Alice> I got into an argument with him regarding Trump, COVID-19 handling in the US, and so on. He found all of it hilarious.
13:08 <Alice> I basically gave him *YAY* for it, by reminding him THAT I HAVE FRIENDS THAT LIVE IN THE US.
13:08 <Alice> That I am concerned about.
13:09 <Alice> I actually don't understand his mentality, because I know for a fact that he has family that he does care about living in the US as well, so it's like... why?
13:17 <RazorSharpFang> Doesn't help that there's so much misinformation about it.
13:23 <Alice> Bleh, can't sleep.
13:23 <Alice> So I'm just gonna stay awake. Eat some food, exercise, then take a shower.
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13:44 <Alice> Someone on Twitter pointed something out to me.
13:44 <RazorSharpFang> Our reactor is now 6x2
13:44 <Alice> Apparently, a tweet of mine, despite the fact that I don't delete controversial tweets, has been deleted. And I don't know why.
13:45 <RazorSharpFang> It's the twitterazi shadowbanning
13:47 <Alice> What I don't understand is why. It was a misinformed tweet about Apple's super-expensive displays. I even followed up with a response to someone who asked for me to delete the tweet by telling them I acknowledge I made a bad assumption, and that I'd rather not delete the tweet, otherwise it looks like I'm hiding something.
13:48 <Alice> It's not because the messages/likes/etc were annoying, since I can just silence the conversation anyways.
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13:49 <Alice> I'm slightly annoyed though, now. Because someone tried to call me out on that with respect to the deleted tweet.
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13:51 <RazorSharpFang> You can't win. The only winning move is to not play the game.
13:51 <Alice> Mm.
13:51 <Alice> And I shouldn't let them get to me, given it's over something irrelevant, anyways.
13:51 <RazorSharpFang> Twitter-review: "It's terrible. 10/10"
13:52 <Alice> Right, so you called me out on it. So, uh... what exactly does that do for you or me?
13:53 <Alice> Twitter's really not the place to argue things, due to character constraints.
13:53 <Alice> Good ole' cherry picking to discredit folks.
13:53 <RazorSharpFang> Here's a thread about fiat currency and the effect of centralised banking [1 of 25565]
13:53 <Alice> 25565? Underselling such people a bit?
13:54 <RazorSharpFang> Maybe it's actually UInt64.MAX_VALUE
13:55 <Alice> Heh.
13:55 <Alice> Right, gonna go exercise, then shower.
13:55 <Alice> Back in about an hour or so. I gather you'll be in bed probably, RazorSharpFang?
13:55 <RazorSharpFang> Can confirm
13:56 <Alice> Well, take care then and sleep well.
14:14 <Alice> Throw some shorts on, move the exercise bike.
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15:01 <Alice> So much for the biking. Machine's not working right.
15:30 <Alice> Found the problem.
15:30 <Alice> Belt's out of alignment.
15:37 <Alice> Unfortunately, I can't fix it. Don't have a wrench large enough.
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16:21 <Alice> Largest wrench I could find is 24mm. It's not enough. I'd say this is... mmm... 30mm?
16:30 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Makenshi: Applejack Music: Yuru - Endeavour [House] [ http://tinyurl.com/y5oq7dcp ]
16:54 <Schism> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjf2FKlZl9M
16:54 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.
16:54 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Lemon Demon - Kitten Is Angry
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17:06 * Finwe noms on Ali's tail.
17:06 * Finwe is a hungry pony.
17:07 * Ali isn't the foodling, she's just a boring unicorn pony.
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17:50 * Ali leans into ruffles, unicorn not sure what to do.
18:40 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: New Cast of Characters Confirmed for Generation 5 of My Little Pony in September 2021 - Starting With Movie [ http://tinyurl.com/yy2c3n43 ]
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19:20 <Alice> Guess who feels like they're sick with a cold?
19:48 * Schism points two thumbs at Alice.
19:48 * Schism also blehs. "That was a bit of a walk."
19:50 <Alice> Eeeyup. :P
19:52 <Schism> Bank runs are annoying.
20:00 <Schism> Hehe. Douglas Adams bought the first two Macintosh computers sold in the UK, and Stephen Fry bought the third.
20:17 * Schism passes Alice a plush toy of the Eternal Sweeper.
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20:27 * Alice isn't sure what that is.
20:31 <Schism> Alice: Eh, that character from Elf Only Inn. Eternal Sweeper, because well, what good is a demon who sleeps forever?
20:31 <Alice> Heh.
20:39 <Alice> http://starmen.net/mother2/maps/fullmap.png# When you learn that the entire game world of Earthbound is actually just one large map that you're warped around on.
21:09 <Ali> Bleh, I'm so torn on what to do. I want to play a game, I just can't decide on one.
21:20 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: My Little Pony Morphin Pink Pony Now Available for Order [ http://tinyurl.com/yxbsjuss ]
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21:45 <Alice> Schism, where do you keep the aware werewolves? Over there? *Gets shot*
21:45 <Schism> There wolf. There castle.
21:46 <Alice> Heh.
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22:20 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Drawfriend Stuff (Pony Art Gallery) #3445 [ http://tinyurl.com/y4fpc39c ]
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22:32 <Alice> So according to my parents, I figured out how to mimic the sound of a cat preparing to vomit.
22:33 <Alice> Tap an empty 591ml gatorade bottle against my knee at 1Hz.
22:34 <Lumindia> what part of the bottle
22:35 <Lumindia> @Schism: "Noooo, you can't just transport the crystal tower across time and space!" "Hehe, Alexander go brrr"
22:35 <Alice> Side, near the bottom.
22:36 <Lumindia> yeah I can hear it
22:39 * Ali sits on Lumindia
22:40 * Lumindia is sat upon
22:46 <Alice> ...
22:46 <Alice> You actua-
22:46 * Alice sighs.
22:47 * Dappled can't hear it. Doesn't have gatorade.
22:48 <PinkieShy> Interesting..
22:48 <PinkieShy> One of my sweet and sour chicken looks like the shape of a tater tot.
22:48 * Alice arms Lumindia in Zayin-level gear, and send them up against an Aleph-level Abnormality. This is basically like pitting a single, non-lethal ant up against a human being.
22:49 <Lumindia> '-'
22:49 <Alice> Good luck!
22:50 <Alice> ((Alternatively, in thematic terms, think of putting a standard Foundation guard up against SCP-076-2.))
22:50 <Alice> Or a scientist up against 682.
22:53 <Alice> That said, the greatest threat is, as in all such games where Losing Is Fun(TM), is other people on your side.
22:53 <Alice> The other day, for example. I had the new guy in a force go work with an abnormality. Shortly after he killed everyone in the facility. It was only the second day of the game.
22:54 <Dappled> What game is this?
22:54 <Alice> Lobotomy Corporation.
22:54 <Dappled> Ah.
22:54 <Alice> You run a facility not unlike an SCP Foundation site.
22:54 <Dappled> As I've now finally found someone else with it.
22:54 <Alice> Heh.
22:54 <Dappled> What is the difference between insight and instinct?
22:55 * Dappled got it early in early access period and just couldn't figure stuff out.
22:57 <Alice> Just two different forms of work you can do with an abnormality. The four different work types basically represent different handlings of working with the abnormalities.
22:57 <Alice> The goal is to figure out which ones work best with certain stats.
22:59 <Alice> The various works are described as such: Instinct, is basically poking and proding the abnormality. Literally. Insight is learning about the abnormality to improve it's living conditions, observation. Attachment is basically providing for social needs. Talking to the abnormalities. Repression is curbing emotions in the abnormality.
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22:59 * Alice sends Lumindia to do Instinct work on an Aleph abnormality. That means poking, proding, hugging and other fun stuff! :D
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23:01 <Alice> "Relieving Instinctual Needs" "Alleviating Physiological Needs" "Inducing Physiological Satisfaction" - Flavor text that pops up for Instinct work. I'm not sure how I feel about my people... doing that.
23:01 * Dappled thanks Alice for this information. Might give the game another go at some point.
23:02 <Alice> There's a tutorial for the game now, which helps.
23:02 <Alice> And the game got a retranslation at some point, with proofreading, so apparently it's easier to understand.
23:02 <Dappled> Oh thank goodness.
23:03 * Dappled understands it's a small indie company, but yeah. original release was not clear when in english.
23:03 <Alice> It happens. Translations are hard to do.
23:12 <Alice> "<Redacted> confesses about "The Incident of Last July" to One Sin and Hundreds of Good Deeds."
23:15 <Dappled> I know what you did last summer?
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23:23 <Alice> Oh, heh.
23:41 <Alice> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgIFVI8oZCc Schism, Lumindia.
23:41 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.
23:41 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Distraction Dance - Otamatone Cover
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23:49 <Lumindia> yep, saw that. xD
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