00:01 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: New Video Showing Off the Hidden Dissectibles Line From Mighty Jaxx [ http://tinyurl.com/yxf9boz3 ]
00:16 * Schism melts into a puddle.
00:21 <Schism> Oh good. https://twitter.com/i/events/1301165752494350346 Just what the Canadian ISPs needed.
00:31 <Alice> Geezus,
01:01 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: My Little Pony Speedpaint Compilation #148 [ http://tinyurl.com/yxdlsx99 ]
01:13 <Alice> Hum, for the first time, I discerned the correct culprit in a mystery. o3o
01:15 <Alice> Katashiro. Shinto implements used to represent a subject. Basically small figurines with the name of an individual written on them. They can be used for good and for bad, of course. So, in this particular mystery, a person was creating them, cursing them, and causing individuals to come to harm as a result of the curse.
01:15 <Alice> But the key detail here, is that they require the full name of the individual.
01:16 <Alice> In the four episodes of the mystery, only one individual had directly asked two of the inevitable targets their name. Turns out that one individual I noticed was, in fact, the culprit. o3o
01:16 <Alice> And I noticed it simply because she asked explicitly for a name.
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01:33 <Alice> Parents are watching The Martian. Honestly, were it me, I'd just send up a simple message. "I'm still here. Send dirt, seeds, batteries to charge in the sturdiest capsule you can crash onto this planet. Oh, and an SD card with the written works of humanityh on it."
01:34 <Alice> Do NOT come back to rescue me. It'd be cheaper to just slingshot something my way every now and then, than to risk several people and a trillion-dollar spacecraft for my sake. There are better things that could be done with all that.
01:34 * Ali flops over the Dakota
01:35 * Ali grumps and flops over the Dappled
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01:36 * Dappled shows his many perfect IV pokemon.
01:38 <Alice> Why do you have intravenous-sized pokemon?
01:38 <Dappled> How else are we going to fight the pandemic without pokemon?
01:39 <Alice> Drugs? ... Wait, that's the joke here, isn't it?
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02:01 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Nightly Discussion #2270 [ http://tinyurl.com/y3wxhj72 ]
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02:14 <Alice> I wonder if cats can be allergic to something in fish.
02:50 <Alice> Hum, Spitfire, what exactly are you reacting to with respect to my laptop this time?
02:50 <Alice> I'm not touching it, so it can't be that. But you just got up, meowed in frustration and hopped over to the ottoman where I had it sitting, playing anime.
02:50 <Alice> Was it the voices bothering you? I know you reacted poorly to my sister's voice over my headphones a few weeks back, so..
02:51 <Alice> ...
02:51 <Alice> He's definitely reacting to the voices.
02:51 <Alice> ...
03:01 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Makenshi: Celestia Music: Nicolas Dominique - Centuries Passed Away [Trance] [ http://tinyurl.com/y4kt672c ]
03:13 <Schism> Darnit.
03:13 * Schism tugs on her shoelaces, and they go 'pop'. "Guess I need more."
03:14 <Schism> Alice: Huh. Now what sort of voices is he hearing...
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03:30 * PrincessRainbows boops Ali and grabby hooves. Uppies?
03:30 * Ali grabs PrincessRainbows and hugs..
03:32 * PrincessRainbows giggles and licks Ali. Yay
03:36 <Alice> I dunno, Schism, but it weirded me out as it was new to me.
03:37 <Alice> He spent like, 5 minutes pacing around the ottoman, looking around.
03:37 <Schism> Townhouse's haunted.
03:37 * Schism cocks her pistol and stalks towards Alice's place. "Townhouse's haunted."
03:37 <Alice> Screw the pistol.
03:37 * Alice grabs a nuclear warhead. "Only way to be sure."
03:39 <Alice> Sometimes I do wonder if the houses in this neighborhood are haunted, though.
03:39 <Alice> I still recall that night Simba had a seizure years back.
03:39 <Alice> Laying there on the couch, I had gotten home from surgery earlier in the day.
03:39 <Schism> Alice: My song for the day is this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZ_ZQkV58Cc
03:40 <Alice> He's on my lap, asleep as usual. Then all of a sudden, he wakes up, looks at the corner behind the couch, and just bolts off upstairs.
03:40 <Schism> That is... worrisome, indeed. o.o;
03:40 <Alice> I'm about to chase after him, my dad tells me to stay downstairs. Apparently, he stopped just short of my bedroom door, fell over, and started having a seizure.
03:41 <Alice> It was likely that whatever triggered the seizure is what caused him to freak out, but still.
03:41 <Alice> Like a prodrome of the seizure.
03:42 <Alice> His brain started doing something, and he either started seeing or hearing things, and it scared the hell out of him, so his first instinct was to run to my bedroom, where he felt safe. Along the way, whatever it was finally kicked in.
03:42 * Schism nods...
03:42 <Alice> Interestingly, that may have actually been what started his dementia.
03:43 <Alice> As it was later than year that he developed dementia and basically went downhill fast.
03:43 <Alice> Man, I miss him. I really do. But, I have Spitfire here most of the time to take care of me now.
03:46 <Alice> Still, this cat is weirding me out.
03:46 <Alice> Besides all the stigma and paranormal association with black cats, when he starts acting all crazy and protective over random stuff..
03:46 <Alice> Far as I can tell, the two biggest things he freaks out about are me using any tech toys, or talking a lot. No, seriously.
03:47 <Alice> He doesn't like it when I talk a lot to someone else.
03:47 <Alice> I started noticing this in the last few months.
03:48 <Alice> I didn't connect the dots until a few weeks ago though, when my sister tried voice chatting with me on the PS4. We were talking a lot on it, and Spitfire just suddenly starts freaking out and going after my arm and wrist as usual.
03:48 <Alice> Then a couple days later, I mentioned it to my mother. We got into a discussion and started talking a lot. Up comes Spitfire, and he just starts going after my wrist again. I didn't even have my tablet, phone or laptop near me.
03:48 <Alice> He's trying to tell me what I can and cannot do.
03:51 <Schism> Or maybe he just loves your arm.
03:52 <Schism> Hum. So there's for year 34.
03:57 <Alice> Happy birthday!
03:57 <Alice> Your gift? Finding out you're a cute girl. :P
04:00 <Schism> That is the high point of the year. Well, the girl bit. Cute, not so much as of *yet*, but hopefully that will come in time.
04:01 <Alice> It'll certainly be easier for you than me. I'm less likely to be cute and more likely to be "TIME FOR SNU-SNU"
04:01 <Alice> That is, amazon body type and ready to beat someone over the head with a big stick.
04:04 <Alice> As for loving my arm, I'm not so sure. I showed the vet a video of his behavior, she said it's not indicative of... other activities.
04:04 <Alice> She actually has no idea what it is.
04:05 <Alice> He basically does two things with my arm.
04:05 <Alice> Well, three, if you count progression.
04:06 <Alice> The basic process is as such: 1) He looks at me or my hand, and sees something that 'bothers' him, to put it simply. 2) He walks around my arm, turns around, facing the direction of my hand relative to him. 3) He climbs onto the base of my forearm, just below the elbow, with his two front paws, and starts kneading. Sometimes with the claws out. Hence all the puncture marks in my photos.
04:07 <Alice> 4) He continues to knead for as long as I'm doing whatever is bothering him. It usually takes a minute or two for him to stop when I stop, though. Like he's waiting to make sure I'm done.
04:08 <Alice> 5) If I continue to do whatever's bothering him, he moves the front paws forward a bit. The hind paws climb onto the arm. Unfortunately, with all of his weight on me now, my flesh kind of "gives" and the hind legs regularly slip off of the arm. The claws are usually out in this case, so I get light scratches from this.
04:09 <Alice> Beyond this, he generally doesn't do much else. He just spends the rest of the time constantly trying to get all four paws on my arm at once, without slipping off, until I either stop doing what's bothering him, or I interfere in some manner.
04:09 <Alice> And it's in that one specific spot, too. He doesn't try spreading the paws out or anything. He tries to get all four of them on one spot on my arm, as close together as possible.
04:09 <Alice> As if he were balancing on top of a post.
04:10 <Alice> Meanwhile, if at any point, I, or anyone else, tries to interrupt him, he gets frustrated. He starts meowing in a way that indicates extreme frustration.
04:11 <Schism> Did... you provide your arm to him as a kitten?
04:12 <Alice> Usually, if you continue to interfere at this point, he'll eventually get off my arm and either run off, or just sit there, looking away from me and whoever interefered. If you stop bugging him at this point, he'll sit around for a minute or two, then start the whole process again.
04:12 <Alice> Not that I can recall.
04:12 <Alice> He was particularly energetic as a kitten. Ran around a lot.
04:12 <Alice> Anyhoo, continuing on..
04:12 <Alice> If I directly interfere, there's usually two reactions.
04:13 <Alice> The frustration above, and he just sits off to the side, sulking and not looking at me for a couple of minutes, or...
04:13 <Alice> He bites down on my wrist. Hard enough to hurt, but not hard enough to draw blood, or cause any long-term markings on my skin. Not even a welt, like what one would get from simply brushing their finger nail up against their skin roughly.
04:14 <Alice> Just teeth marks where he bit, which tend to go away after a minute.
04:14 <Schism> Perhaps he just doesn't grok what his claws do. :S
04:14 <Alice> No redness, swelling, nothing.
04:15 <Alice> I can understand why some people, looking at it, would think it's a sexual thing. It looks kind of like a male mounting a female, and biting at her neck to keep her steady and in place.
04:15 <Alice> But from my perspective, it doesn't look like that. Something about it seems different.
04:15 <Schism> Erm. Channel.
04:15 <Alice> I wasn't sure if that was too much or not.
04:16 <Alice> In any case..
04:16 <Schism> Let's call it at that. Perhaps Spitfire just thinks your arm is to be nommed upon.
04:16 <Alice> The posturing and appearance of the face suggests it's more like a parent cat pinning their child, either because it's misbehaving, or they want to clean/groom it.
04:17 <Alice> Like, he looks irritated. Peeved off.
04:17 <Alice> "Stop moving, I'm trying to do something."
04:17 <Schism> Stop paying attention to something else, arm. >.>
04:17 <Alice> That too.
04:18 <Alice> I suspect he perceives my arm as the body of some sort of weird legless, hairless cat, the wrist joint as the neck, and the hand as the head.
04:19 <Schism> Wear a sock on your arm? :s
04:20 <Alice> And the reason I presume that, is because if you clench your hand into a fist, then with the flexibility and ability to turn it and such, it does kind of resemble the head of a creature. Thus, the wrist, where all the twisting and flexing occurs, looks like the neck of a creature.
04:20 <Alice> The arm itself is basically long, like a torso.
04:23 <Alice> That said, this is the USUAL progression.
04:23 <Schism> There's no guarantee that Spitfire wouldn't then change up. X3
04:23 <Alice> Sometimes, and very, very rarely at that, he just straight up skips all of that and goes straight to biting the wrist and pulling.
04:24 <Alice> Which feels like he's trying to pull me off somewhere, but due to like, the massive difference in, well, mass, it's about as effective as trying to herd cats.
04:27 <Schism> "Okay, what are you trying to do."
04:29 <Alice> Mmm, in these cases, it's less curiosity, and more "No, stop this, now."
04:29 <Alice> Like, there's an imperative or something behind it. A drive.
04:30 <Alice> He just gets up, walks over, bites at my wrist and starts pulling or tugging.
04:30 <Alice> No ifs-ands-or-buts about it. Just straight from 0 to 100.
04:31 <Schism> Alice, have you inspected your cat for a small green octrahedron above his head, a la The Sims?
04:32 <Alice> I've inspected him down to the skin, there isn't even a flea on him.
04:32 <Alice> Lotta dander, though.
04:32 <Alice> For a cat with such a silky coat, he seems to shed a lot of skin.
04:36 <Alice> Truth told, I think he's a little brain damaged. It's not improbable, either.
04:37 <Alice> The mother was found injured and malnourished on the porch of the people who took her in.
04:37 <Alice> I've heard that malnourishment and other problems, such as injuries or worse, can cause problems with the development of the kittens.
04:38 <Alice> Though, most reports I've read about that have usually reported cases of cerebellar hypoplasia. A condition in which the cerebellum doesn't develop properly, resulting in wobbly, jerky movement and stature.
04:45 <Schism> Naybe just a little bit of that... not enough to result in the major physiological symptoms, but enough to cause issues in general.
04:49 <Alice> It's certainly unusual.
04:49 <Alice> My mother did some searching, and she's only been able to find one other person describing similar behavior thus far.
04:50 <Alice> And, like the vet with just the description, people responding thought it was something related to extracurricular activities.
04:50 <Alice> When I showed the same vet a video though, she said she didn't recognize the behaviour. No idea what he was doing.
04:55 * Alice shrugs. "He's a cat though, so I can't really say what's going on in his head."
04:55 <Alice> I swear, one of these days though, he's just going to come up to me and attempt to say an English word or something.
04:57 <Alice> That, or impossibly turn into a catboy.
05:00 <Alice> Spitfire's acting funny again.
05:00 <Ali> Lilly has been acting wacko as well, cats be catting
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05:33 <Alice> Hmm.
05:33 * Alice does something she is going to regret.
05:35 <Alice> Or not.. Hum.
05:36 <Alice> A week ago, I moved one of the cat litters downstairs to test something with regards to my breathing. Unfortunately, I forgot about Tizzy's... condition. She has a weak bladder because of medicine we feed her for hyperthyroidism.
05:36 <Alice> So, I had to move the litter back upstairs.
05:36 <Alice> Problem is, I walked into the room where I had placed it a week ago, and noticed the floor was sticky.
05:37 <Alice> That said, whatever it is, it's not cat pee. Doesn't have a smell, whatever it was.
05:41 <Ali> Trust me, you'll know cat piss when you smell it.
05:46 <Alice> I'm... not so sure about that. When I stated "unfortunately", I meant that after I had moved the litter downstairs, Tizzy had an accident. My mother noticed it, but neither my dad or I did. Fortunately, having known about her problem, we prepared well in advance for the possibility. It's why I moved the cat litter back to where it was.
05:48 <Ali> I get that
05:48 <Ali> Just stating that you'll know if a cat missed her box by the smell
05:49 <Alice> Heh.
05:50 <Alice> My point is, I didn't notice the smell. Experience has told me that I can only smell it from a relatively close distance. The distance at which it'd likely knock most people out.
05:53 <Ali> Heh, reminds me of another story about a smell, but not cat related
05:53 <Ali> I used to work in retail, and in the bedding department there was this GOD AWFUL spell coming from somewhere
05:53 <Ali> Like gag reflex bad
05:54 <Alice> Oh gods.
05:54 <Ali> I kept telling the managers about it, but they kept ignoring me about it
05:54 <Ali> Never did find out where or what it was, but it was there for at least two months
05:54 <Alice> Sheesh.
05:55 <Ali> I mean I worked around the service desk at that time I think. You'd think SOMEONE would complain as well about the smell.
05:55 <Alice> They do, it's likely somewhere along the line, someone either doesn't report it, or the people who are meant to deal with it didn't give a ****.
05:56 <Ali> I thought something crawled into one of the big boxes of pillows, couldn't get out and died
05:56 <Ali> Like it smelled that bad
05:58 <Ali> Its one reason why I hate retail
05:58 <Ali> Managers that don't listen to their employees about things.
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06:49 <Golden> Hm
06:49 <Reena_Whitehall> hey Ali, it's been a while
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06:50 <Ali> Nick doesn't sound familiar so you'll have to.. still doesn't ring a bell :P
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06:50 <Reena_Whitehall> is Larcis still around?
06:50 <Ali> Gosh no, they haven't been here for about a year sadly
06:51 <Reena_Whitehall> I haven't been around for a few years
06:51 <Ali> Just us little holdouts here now, but there's a few still left
06:51 <Reena_Whitehall> Kinda miss everyone
06:51 <Ali> Still sadly the nick doesn't ring a bell
06:51 * Alice flopss.
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06:52 <Reena_Whitehall> I was mostly active on Everfree Radio/Network, but joined back in a few times over the years to other groups
06:52 <Ali> Good old EFR, long since gone.
06:52 <Reena_Whitehall> Thinking about doing some more artwork, but looks like Nedemai isn't in EQDArt anymore, or at least not atm?
06:53 <Ali> Nedipone does pop in here and then
06:54 <Reena_Whitehall> I was hoping to get back in touch with some of the fandom artists, i'm sure they're around somewhere :)
06:55 <Ali> Yeah I'm sure there's that, you're welcome to stay here and boop Nedi if they show up.
06:55 <Ali> !seen Nedimai
06:55 <DerpyBot> Ali: Sorry, I haven't seen Nedimai lately.
06:55 <Ali> Bull Derpster
06:55 <Ali> !seen straight
06:55 <DerpyBot> Ali: The last time I saw....will you cut that out already?!
06:56 <Alice> Nedemai is around here, still, though.
06:56 <Reena_Whitehall> !seen a hoard of biscuits!
06:56 <DerpyBot> Reena_Whitehall: Sorry, I haven't seen a hoard of biscuits! lately.
06:56 <Reena_Whitehall> Colgate still not fixed null characters? :)
06:57 <Ali> That would be johnsey on the bot
06:57 <Colgate> null characters aren't even a valid IRC character
06:57 <Reena_Whitehall> it's just Alt+255 for space
06:57 <Alice> Mmhmm. NULs are used to indicate the end of line.
06:58 <Reena_Whitehall> bots can't tell the difference, so i guess it's not a true null :p
06:58 <Colgate> CR/LF is used for IRC end of lines, not null
06:58 <Alice> Ah, right.
06:58 <Alice> Sorry.
06:58 <Colgate> nulls are just straight up invalid in IRC in everything
06:59 <Colgate> I would be very surprised if inspircd didn't automatically strip any it encounters
06:59 <Alice> Unfortunately, my IRC client refuses to allow it to be entered as part of a message.
07:00 <Alice> So there's no way for me to tell directly.
07:01 <Alice> Actually, it appears to be an effect of the DE I'm using.
07:01 <Alice> Thus, the only way I could officially test would be to write a program that sends a NUL within a message.
07:02 <Alice> Or switch DEs.
07:02 <Colgate> or just use something like netcat
07:03 <Alice> That works too.
07:03 <Alice> In any case, while the server should, ideally, strip it out, clients should at least be designed to handle the situation as well. Preferably by stripping it out.
07:05 * Alice grabs Schism's hand and runs into a haunted mansion of random hallways and rooms, because the people who owned it were morons and built onto the house randomly in an attempt to confuse and keep away spirits and curses.
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07:18 <Golden> Who buys Halloween decorations in September?
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07:57 <Alice> ... Great, I'm seeing shapes in the darkness. Furry shapes, probably the cats, but I can't be certain due to the way they moved.
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09:06 <ConfusionRift> Hello everypony.
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11:01 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Morning Discussion #2043 [ http://tinyurl.com/y2l3d6u5 ]
11:18 <Schism> Hiya, Rifty.
11:18 * ConfusionRift waves.
11:18 * Schism offers ConfusionRift some toasted rye, broiled, with melted garlic and gruyere atop.
11:20 * ConfusionRift noms and thankies Schism.
11:27 * Lumindia boops Schism
11:27 <Schism> Myerp.
11:28 <Schism> GShade is dangerous. I'm not sure if I can play the game without it anymore.
11:33 * ConfusionRift rounds Schism. :P
11:37 * Schism boops the Rifty and the Lumin right back.
11:38 <Schism> Also, that feeling when you just desynth the equipment you get from retainers, because you have 1,500 ventures, 999 free teleport tokens, and no need for any other blasted thing. (Maybe I can throw some more glam prisms into the FC stash.)
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11:44 <ConfusionRift> That point when rare weapons are useless, and have to depend on legendaries.
11:46 <RazorSharpFang> Good evening.
11:46 <ConfusionRift> Hallo.
11:46 <Schism> I hate the Amdapor. ;-;
11:47 <Lumindia> which one?
11:47 <Lumindia> there's four
11:47 <Schism> Leap of Faith.
11:47 <Lumindia> ?????
11:47 <Lumindia> amdapor isn't in leap of faith
11:47 <Lumindia> it's the statue in Thanalan, or the Floating City of Nym
11:47 <Lumindia> there's no amdapor
11:47 <Schism> Isn't that ... oh right. Nymian, not Amdapor.
11:47 * Schism flops. "I am tired this morning."
11:48 * Schism does a dwarf quest or two, for to tank.
11:54 * Lumindia boops the Schism
11:54 <Lumindia> silly
11:54 <Lumindia> ♥
11:54 * Lumindia leans into, snug
11:54 * Schism uses Substitute! The Schism doll is left in her place.
11:56 <Lumindia> '-'
11:56 * Lumindia snugs the doll anyway, the doll is just as snuggly
11:56 <Lumindia> <3
12:01 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Comics: Luna Land #19 / ES Nevermore #8 / AoS #6.11 / WmW #187-189 [ http://tinyurl.com/y63l3ywe ]
12:03 <Schism> At least I have no reticence to being called 'cute'. Unlike the adorable Ali. *looks around, sees she's not here* The cute, adorable, snuggly Ali.
12:07 <Lumindia> O vO
12:07 * Lumindia engages the AYAYA
12:07 * Schism briefly levels MCH.
12:07 <Lumindia> pew pew
12:09 <Schism> Yay, Air Anchor get.
12:11 <Lumindia> ay
12:43 <Schism> We get it, Livia, you're yandere. That's enough of that.
12:46 * Schism sighs, and creates Windows 10 installation medium. "It's my weekend, now's as good a time as any."
12:48 <ConfusionRift> Upgrading?
12:49 <Schism> Yeah, it's about time.
12:49 <Schism> Hum, my version of 8 is... home. Eh, that's fine.
12:51 <Schism> I'm not all that het up about the Pro version at the moment. It's not like I'm going to be using corporate access permissions.
12:53 <ConfusionRift> HEH, hehehe hehe he he heeee...
12:53 <ConfusionRift> Yeah, for regular use, not really required.
12:54 <Schism> Also, just because the tools aren't readily accessible doesn't necessarily mean they aren't there.
12:55 <ConfusionRift> Oh, they are there. It just requires some finnagling.
12:55 <ConfusionRift> Well, some tools.
12:55 <Schism> Yupyup. And knowledge of the registry and how to use the command prompt, which -- surprise! -- I have.
12:56 <ConfusionRift> The more likely used tools are there, for sure. Others, not so much.
12:56 <Schism> Eh, again, I'm unlikely to be concerned with most access permissions, and I can break the others open if I need.
12:57 * ConfusionRift still sighs at the UAC.
12:59 <ConfusionRift> It's been an issue for years, but still. It's annoying.
13:00 <ConfusionRift> "Access denied: administrator access only." | That's very interesting, especially when I'M THE ADMINISTRATOR!!!
13:01 <Schism> Yyyyup.
13:01 <Schism> Okay, time to see if this works. Catch you folks soon!
13:01 <ConfusionRift> Okaday.
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13:10 <Schism> Kay. Guess it can wait until next week.
13:23 <Schism> Or I can attempt to upgrade through Windows itself, which I'm kind of halfway loathe to do ... but I have installation medium now, so that should be okay.
13:35 <Schism> Hello Windows 10, you didn't ask for a key and I'm fine with that.
13:35 <Schism> Guess I'll be back soon!
13:37 <Schism> Back after install...~
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14:08 * PrincessRainbows boops Lumindia with a wing and giggles
14:24 * Lumindia squeaks
14:24 * Lumindia scrunchymuzzle
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14:35 <Schism|Adagio> Joy... not unexpected to see device driver issues with W10.
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14:38 <Schism|Adagio> This is, after all, the standard when upgrading. Still, at least it does look like the Windows 8 key worked just fine for an upgrade.
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14:46 <Schism> Furrfu.
14:47 <Schism> That was entirely too silly. Oh well, I have the classic shell on and everything else, so I'll call this whole thing a win.
14:48 <Schism> And it's activated. Surprise! Windows 10 is still a valid install for 7 and 8.
15:34 <Schism> HAH! Okay, ClassicShell has the best EULA there. "You got it for free, caveat emptor, we're not going to steal your data but don't blame us if it doesn't work like you expect it to."
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16:09 <Schism> I see that PSO2 is going to take its time.
16:41 <Schism> Alice: http://www.polymercitychronicles.com/archive/20010604.gif
17:01 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Makenshi: Fluttershy / Dragon Music: Voltex Pixel, Camelia, Cynifree & Paloris - Stuck In The Cloud [Future Bounce] / Flame To Fire [Melodic Dubstep] [ http://tinyurl.com/y6lwzuhk ]
17:20 <Finwe> o3o
17:20 * Finwe returns from grocery store.
17:21 * Finwe hats on Schism or Schism|Adagio, not being completely sure about which one.
17:21 <Schism> Oh, that's still me, just on my laptop. o3o; I updated to Windows 10.
17:23 <Finwe> But Win 10 has been out for ages. :0
17:23 <Schism> I know. I've put it off for too long. Thankfully, I was able to get a free copy due to my old installation of 8.
17:23 <Finwe> And it's far better than 7, not to speak of anything that came before it.
17:24 <Finwe> 8 and Vista were nothing less than awful.
17:25 <Finwe> I actually liked Windows 2000.
17:26 <Schism> 8.1 was alright. Nothing special, but much better than 8.
17:26 <Finwe> True.
17:26 <Finwe> Microsoft showed some remorse there.
17:27 <Schism> 8 baseline was intended for tablets, and the UI reflected that -- and failed accordingly.
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17:27 *** ChanServ sets mode: +qo Ali Ali
17:27 <Finwe> Mlles Ali, PrincessRainbows and Filly_Nightmares.
17:27 * Finwe doffs his hat.
17:27 * Ali hisses belatedly at Win 8
17:28 * Schism snugs the Ali. Not that she's cute or anything, just that she's... yes. Ali is a snuggly unicorn.
17:28 <Ali> I'll take snuggly, but cute is always a no go.
17:28 * Filly_Nightmares yawnskrees and snugglies into Ali tummy
17:28 <Schism> There, I have gotten around the cute restriction. Huzzah!
17:29 * Finwe ruffles the Ali.
17:29 * Ali gives Filly_Nightmares mango
17:29 <Schism> Ali: I have upgraded to Windows 10. :< Now to wait for 65 GB of data to stream for PSO2.
17:29 * Filly_Nightmares nom nom nomfs mango
17:29 <Finwe> Either mango or manstay.
17:29 <Ali> Schism, Win 10 is just a slightly better 8.1
17:29 * Schism also provides Filly_Nightmares wif mango ice cream! It has caramel 'n' choklit.
17:30 * Filly_Nightmares lick licks ice cream!
17:30 <Finwe> Schism: Remember to start your desktop session by pressing Win + Tab.
17:30 <Ali> And like you guys said, Win 8 was basically a tablet version of Windows nobody wanted
17:30 <Schism> Yes, thank you. Frankly, I'm honestly more fond of Windows-V, the clipboard history.
17:30 <Finwe> It took Microsoft ages to fathom the blissfulness of virtual desktops, but now they are there.
17:31 <Schism> That one seems to be restricted to the Pro version, which I might upgrade to in the future, but am fine without right now.
17:31 <Finwe> And remember to install WSL2.
17:31 <Schism> Oh, there it is.
17:32 <Schism> Huh, that's interesting.
17:32 <Schism> I'm going to have to see if that works on my work box.
17:33 <Finwe> What, WSL?
17:33 <Schism> No, additional virtual screens.
17:34 <Finwe> MacOS and most Linux desktops have had them since the dawn of time.
17:34 <Schism> A number of features of 1809 have been blocked by administrators, so...
17:34 <Finwe> Why would anyone block virtual desktops?
17:35 <Schism> Not sure, but they've blocked the Windows-. emoji popup, so I won't assume that they haven't done the same for other features.
17:35 * Starlight_Glimmer sits on top of Ali dripping wet
17:36 <Starlight_Glimmer> So turns out it's raining today
17:36 <Starlight_Glimmer> Guess who went to work with short pants and in a t-shirt
17:37 <Starlight_Glimmer> At least I had the foresight not to wear sandles!
17:38 <Starlight_Glimmer> Finwe: Pretty sure I had virtual desktops on XP with a Microsoft created tool.
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17:38 <Finwe> Starlight_Glimmer: And it looks like the German rain is busy heading this way.
17:39 <Finwe> The south-western sky is darkened by looming rainclouds.
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17:45 *** TwilightSparkle is now known as Ali
17:45 *** ChanServ sets mode: +qo Ali Ali
17:45 * Ali flops over Starlight_Glimmer and noms ear.
17:45 <Finwe> Miss Ali.
17:46 * Finwe doffs his hat.
17:46 <Ali> I am sad, they had a Nintendo direct for the 35th anniversary for SMB, and not a single new game was mentioned, just hey have all these classics.
17:47 <Lumindia> '-'
17:47 <Lumindia> does "Mario Kart AR" not count?
17:49 <Ali> No, it does not
17:49 <Ali> That is not Mario Kart 9
17:50 <Lumindia> it's still new
17:50 <Lumindia> anda pretty neat gimmick, in all honesty
17:50 <Lumindia> now you can mario kart in your own home!
17:52 * Finwe throws a banana at Lumindia.
17:55 <Ali> Yes and most people do not have a home large enough to run a mario kart circuit thru
17:55 <Ali> Or have pets and the like that would just lay in the middle of the track
17:56 <Finwe> And wossnames.
18:01 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Open My Little Pony Art Compilation (All Skill Levels Welcome) #63 [ http://tinyurl.com/y6x3z6wf ]
18:20 * Lumindia does a boop on the ali snoot
18:20 <Lumindia> ' w'
18:20 <Lumindia> Ali is soft
18:20 * Lumindia snug
18:24 * PrincessRainbows flops around, so many fools who think they are smart
18:27 <Schism> Ali is of course not in any way cute or fluffy or adorable or brushable.
18:27 <Schism> So please refrain from brushing Ali's soft, cute, adorable mane.
18:27 * PrincessRainbows cuddles up on Lumindia
18:27 * Ali puffycheeks
18:32 * Alice flops in.
18:33 <Schism> Alice: Have you watched BNA yet? Seems a good choice.
18:33 <Schism> It is fantastically furry.
18:36 <Alice> Not yet.
18:36 <Alice> I'll probably check it out after I'm done with the horror/psychological stuff.
18:42 * Lumindia snugs Rainbows
18:42 <Lumindia> <3
19:01 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: New Pony Life Teaser Compilation With New Scenes Revealed [ http://tinyurl.com/yyvp8xkr ]
19:07 * Lumindia throws a large amount of Rarefied titanbronze tower shields at Schism
19:14 * Alice hums.
19:14 <Alice> Sprite batching is surprisingly tricky to pull off in 3D APIs.
19:15 <Alice> It throws off any sort of drawing order.
19:16 * Ali gives Ash's Muk to Alice
19:17 * Alice releases it to the wild.
19:19 <Alice> Drawing order is just what it sounds like. The order in which things are draw. Conventional immediate drawing order is basically painter's model. That is, you paint something on a surface with one color, then paint on top of that color, etc, etc, etc, until the final image is done.
19:19 <Alice> Uuuunfortunately, graphics development introduces problems that make not always possible.
19:20 <Alice> Which can result in some weird effects, like two images flickering over one another.
19:27 * Lumindia tosses a bunch of shields at Alice as well
19:28 * Alice decomposes them into their constituent parts. Vertices, normals, normal maps, textures.
19:35 <Finwe> What did { (x,y) | x - y = 0 } say to (1,1)?
19:35 <Finwe> You're not normal!
19:36 <Alice> ...
19:36 <Finwe> What did it say to (1/sqrt(2),-1/sqrt(2))?
19:36 <Finwe> You're perfectly normal.
19:37 <Finwe> I'll get me coat.
19:37 <Alice> Please.
19:39 <Finwe> Why did the mathematician call his dog Cauchy?
19:39 * Alice hums.
19:39 <Finwe> Because he left a residue at every pole.
19:39 <Alice> Hum, I can't focus. Whee.
19:39 <Alice> I know what needs to be done, but when I try to think of the implementation, the TV distracts me.
19:40 <Finwe> There's only one solution.
19:40 * Finwe hoofs a propeller beanie and a kangaroo stick to Alice.
19:41 * Ali boops the Finwe and puts them onto her pit crew. "You can do better than the scrubs I apperently have."
19:41 <Finwe> o3o
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19:43 <Finwe> I know how to change tyres.
19:43 <Ali> To think MM will only be my 2nd 1k hour game on steam.
19:43 <Finwe> and I know how to refuel.
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19:44 <Finwe> I think that might just suffice, unless you tend to wreck your car often, in which case more profound mechanical skills are probably required.
19:45 <Finwe> I just spent almost 200 hours playing Dragon Age: Inquisition.
19:45 <Finwe> And I didn't even unlock every single achievement. D:
19:46 <Finwe> Hmm, apart from pogo sticks, kangaroo sticks can refer to things made of kangaroo that Aussies feed to their dogs.
19:47 <Finwe> The one intended for Alice's use was of the pogo sort.
19:48 <Alice> I figured.
19:48 <Alice> I know the stereotypical image you are going for.
19:48 * Lumindia flops on Ali
19:48 * Ali squeaks at Lumindia
19:49 * Lumindia wishes to die... is spending the next hour crafting shields
19:49 <Alice> Read a book while doing it.
19:52 <Finwe> Alice: The only way to fight the distraction caused by TV is to outdistract it.
19:52 <Alice> Mmhmm.
19:52 <Finwe> You should probably honk a horn while bouncing around.
19:54 <Finwe> Kangaroos, by the way, are amazing animals. They know how to completely fill up a Euclidean plane:
19:54 <Finwe> https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/78ee331e-c4d8-44a7-ae4e-779d594c67a0/dd3rct7-a0fea488-6d21-4b3e-b72d-5e0ab05b5b25.png/v1/fill/w_1024,h_1449,q_80,strp/tessellation_1038_kangaroo_by_sakuramederu_dd3rct7-fullview.jpg?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOiIsImlzcyI6InVybjphcHA6Iiwib2JqIjpbW3sicGF0aCI6IlwvZlwvNzhlZTMzMWUtYzRkOC00NGE3LWFlNGUtNzc5ZDU5NGM2
19:54 <Finwe> N2EwXC9kZDNyY3Q3LWEwZmVhNDg4LTZkMjEtNGIzZS1iNzJkLTVlMGFiMDViNWIyNS5wbmciLCJoZWlnaHQiOiI8PTE0NDkiLCJ3aWR0aCI6Ijw9MTAyNCJ9XV0sImF1ZCI6WyJ1cm46c2VydmljZTppbWFnZS53YXRlcm1hcmsiXSwid21rIjp7InBhdGgiOiJcL3dtXC83OGVlMzMxZS1jNGQ4LTQ0YTctYWU0ZS03NzlkNTk0YzY3YTBcL3Nha3VyYW1lZGVydS00LnBuZyIsIm9wYWNpdHkiOjk1LCJwcm9wb3J0aW9ucyI6MC40NSwiZ3Jhdml0eSI6ImNlbnRlciJ9fQ.myMEK9W6bP4pYjiaJ7YiafRrex1QanAPsJga_TwX0p0
19:54 <Finwe> Blargh, awful URL.
19:55 <Finwe> https://tinyurl.com/y6f65c4w
19:55 <Finwe> There, much better.
19:55 * Ali sits on Finwe more for long link
19:56 <Alice> Ah, that's always fun optical effect.
19:56 <Finwe> It won't probably link anywhere because it was split into two lines.
19:58 <Lumindia> what the frick?
19:58 <Lumindia> that URL completely filled up a Euclidean plane
19:59 <Alice> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wJVIjZJWyo
19:59 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.
19:59 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Sneaky House Cat Interrupts Live News Report About Big Cat Sighting
20:00 <Finwe> You can do the same with identical squares, or with non-intersecting open disks of various radii.
20:02 * Alice flops. Guh.
20:06 * Alice applies a cooling pack to head.
20:15 <Alice> Each sprite has to be sorted into a bin, based on it's associated texture. I can't simply draw each bin one after the other, as it'll result in improper order of drawing. Either a depth buffer, or something akin to one, is needed.
20:18 <Alice> Man, I wish 3D hardware supported integer depth formats. Would make some of these types of things easier to use.
20:18 <Alice> Ah, wait. It does.
20:18 <Alice> Normalized integer. Values are mapped from 0.0 to 1.0 by normalization.
20:19 <Alice> That actually simplifies things a bit.
20:21 <Alice> Passing the relevant information to the shaders, though... That can be done by using a vertex attribute.
20:25 <Alice> Hum, are point sprites still supported in OpenGL 3.3 and above? It appears they are, but it's ill-advised to use them as they are an implementation-defined heavy feature. That is, their constraints are dependent on the underlying hardware and driver software. So two triangles definitely have to be utilized.
20:27 <Alice> Since a quad is two triangles, that's minimum 4 points(If I use a triangle strip, or indexed individual triangles), or six points(individual triangles, non-indexed.) So set the attribute divisor for the depth value to 4..
20:35 <Alice> For simplicity... Use the six-point variant and divisor of six instead.
20:54 <Alice> With that done, need to implement basic shader loading and linking.
21:01 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Makenshi: Rainbow Dash & Scootaloo Music: Harmonic Six - Someday [Orchestral/Soundtrack] [ http://tinyurl.com/y3jyphfw ]
21:14 <Alice> <Mom> "I don't buy anything from the dollar store." <Me> "Oh bullshit." <Mom> "No, no, not anymore. I learned my lesson."
21:27 <Alice> Hum.
21:27 <Alice> Parents say the cat food we have is Friskies Chef's Blend, which has salmon meal in it.
21:27 <Alice> So there is, indeed, a possibility that Spitfire has a sensitivity to fish.
21:28 <Ali> But cats love feesh
21:50 <Alice> Perhaps, but if it's making him vomit, it'd be a better idea to not feed it to him.
21:51 * Lumindia crawls into Ali's mane
21:51 <Lumindia> I'm so over crafting
21:51 * Ali squeaks at Lumindia
21:52 * Lumindia squeaks back
21:52 <Lumindia> I just spent four hours gathering materials, then another one and a half making over a hundred shields to turn in
21:57 <Ali> For what?
22:01 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Drawfriend Stuff (Pony Art Gallery) #3451 [ http://tinyurl.com/yym6zox9 ]
22:09 <Lumindia> I needed currency to buy endgame crafting materials
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22:50 <Nedemai> Ali~
22:50 * Schism provides Nedemai with a plush Ali (it's extra-cute!) and Ali with a plush Nedemai.
22:50 <Nedemai> Ali is a good pone
22:50 <Nedemai> oooh, squee
22:52 <Schism> Mind you, it's only the plushie that's extra-cute. Ali is of course not cute, not at all, nor is she squeezeable or squees.
22:53 <Schism> Any mockups of Ali exaggerate what cuteness she has. Keep that in mind. *sagenod*
22:53 * Alice shaves legs. o3o
22:56 * Schism has an abrasion on her legs which keeps her from shaving them -- for the moment. :<
22:56 <Alice> I got a few, but they seem resistant to cuts just like everything else.
22:57 <Schism> I've just put on polysporin and I'll wait a couple days. Seems safest.
22:58 <Alice> The problem with me is that my legs get cut up all the time.
22:58 <Alice> Either slamming them into sharp corners friggen everywhere, or cats.
22:58 * Ali boops the Nedi as somepone was looking for them last night.
22:58 <Schism> Mine, I had an itch... and I scratched it through demin.
22:58 <Schism> denim.*
22:59 <Alice> Geezus, what, is your skin made of tin foil?
22:59 <Schism> No, I *really* scratched it.
23:00 <Schism> Just because you have polyester fabric for skin doesn't mean that the rest of us are anywhere close.
23:01 <Alice> Ah.
23:01 <Schism> Alice, which Ark are you on?
23:02 <Alice> Hmm?
23:02 <Alice> For PSO2?
23:02 <Alice> I haven't even started yet.
23:02 <Schism> Yah, finally upgraded to Win10 and decided that I'd start...
23:02 <Schism> Very well. I shall ask which Ark the Sanctuary Crew are on. >.>
23:02 <Schism> I know Sara's on the JP server, but... that's kind of problematic.
23:03 <Alice> I don't understand why it even needs Windows 10, outside of Microsoft interference.
23:03 <Alice> The game ran on Windows 7 back in the day, so..
23:03 <Schism> Or which Ark the folks in this server are... aaaa
23:03 <Schism> And yeah, I know. Hard to say.
23:04 <Schism> Alice: I am still, _still_ bemused that I could get Windows 10 on this box without a dime. :<
23:08 * Alice graghs. Has fluid-like crap in her trachea and lungs, feels like. Also, nose is all swollen for some reason on the inside.
23:12 * Schism attempts to cough, and expectorates an egg. "..."
23:13 <Schism> I will assume that this isn't yours.
23:14 <Alice> No.
23:20 <Schism> nProtect. Oh gods, it's been years.
23:21 <Schism> Hello software mouse, how nice to--why the HELL is the software mouse lagging at this framerate?!
23:24 <Schism> I know that PSO2 is focused on a controller setup, but aaaaa.
23:27 <Alice> What video card do you use?
23:28 <Alice> If your video card supports it, set up a profile for the game to use fast vsync. Software cursors are limited by how fast the screen is redrawn.
23:28 <Schism> Oh, I'm on a 1660 Super. So I'm sure that's possible.
23:28 <Alice> Ah, you can then.
23:29 <Alice> nVidia Control Panel, manage 3D settings, should be a tab to change to a profile mode. Add a new program or select the PSO2 executable from the list, and then set vertical synchronization to "fast"
23:30 <Alice> Basically, the gist of the problem is that software cursors are limited to the screen refresh rate. The alternative is to turn off vsync in nVidia and in the game.
23:30 <Alice> But then you get tearing.
23:30 <Alice> Fast vsync is apparently nVidia's solution to that.
23:30 <Alice> It lets the game run as if it were not using vsync, but ensures that an image is drawn correctly at a vertical synchronization.
23:31 <Alice> The basic gist here being that if you remove the framerate limit, the game will poll the input more frequently, and draw a new image constantly. THe cost of course is increased power usage.
23:31 <Alice> If you have loud fans, they'll kick off.
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23:36 * Schism smiles at the tanuki protagonist of BNA.
23:38 <Schism> Though, poor Michiru. ;-;
23:41 <Schism> Alice: I like how the mayor of the city is a Sphinx cat.
23:43 <Alice> I'm not entirely sure how hardware cursors work, but I can intuit their behavior. The core of the problem is that for "snappy" response, you want to draw the final image as close to the vertical blank interval as possible. Drawing the final image *AFTER* the vertical blank interval is generally what's done, though, because there's no way to determine how long it'll take to draw a scene prior to the vertical blank interval, and
23:43 <Alice> you could potentially miss the deadline.
23:43 <Alice> Logic, thus, tells me that there's only one way to make the cursor appear snappy and responsive.
23:45 * Schism nods.
23:45 <Alice> You need some RAM and registers on the GPU, to start. Enough RAM for an image of some depth format, and registers to describe X, Y, and drawing method.
23:45 <Alice> You set up the RAM to contain the image of the cursor.
23:45 <Alice> The registers, meanwhile, can be updated any time there is any sort of input change for the cursor.
23:46 <Alice> During the vertical blank interval, the GPU likely takes this information, overlays the cursor image onto the final image drawn earlier, and then uses *THAT* as the output to the display.
23:46 <Alice> It defers drawing the cursor until just before the image is to be displayed.
23:46 <Alice> In theory, this could work in a software manner, as well.
23:48 <Alice> If you can somehow track when the vertical blank interval is going to occur, you can synchronize your game loop such that a short period before you flip the buffers, you draw the most up-to-date cursor position. A small, low-quality polygon can be rendered to the final image quickly. You don't need a lot of time.
23:48 <Alice> But that level of synchronization's tricky to do. I don't even know how it could be done.
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