00:01 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Pony Plushie Compilation #430 [ http://tinyurl.com/y6foymw4 ]
00:06 * PrincessRainbows boops everypony with bacon waffles she made, cause ponies totally eat bacon
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00:54 <Jackie> A
01:08 <Lumindia> https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/14/weather/wildfire-smoke-new-york-trnd/index.html
01:08 <Lumindia> well that's a thing
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01:25 <Jackie> ⻌
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01:38 <luckyspirit_> My nick expired....
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02:01 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Nightly Discussion #2283 [ http://tinyurl.com/yy443xdf ]
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03:57 * Schism provides PrincessRainbows wif a big bowl of poutine.
04:00 <Finwe> Vladimir Poutine?
04:02 <Schism> No, that's when you eat it with vodka.
04:05 * Ali flops over the Schism and sighhugs hard.
04:06 * Schism hugs the Ali, and offers her some poutine as well. No spice, just gravy, cheese and french fries.
04:06 * Ali noms weakly, is very blehs right now.
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05:25 * Alice awakens.
05:27 * PrincessRainbows hugs Ali really tight and licks to cheer her up
05:28 * Ali brushies the PrincessRainbows so much
05:29 * PrincessRainbows also brushies the Ali
05:30 <PrincessRainbows> Ali is a good horse
05:33 * PrincessRainbows curls up with Ali so to be a plushie
05:33 * Ali huggles the PrincessRainbows lots
05:34 * PrincessRainbows squees and giggles. I should probably finally get my surface pro booting again
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05:50 <Alice> Right, so this new thermometer has arrived. One of them infrared forehead thermometers. Temperature now is 97.6. Multiple readings confirm that this is, in fact, my current temperature.
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06:00 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ConfusionRift
06:01 <ConfusionRift> Hello everypony.
06:08 * ConfusionRift scoots for a bit.
06:08 *** PinkieShy is now known as Sans
06:08 * Sans headpats the Rift
06:10 * ConfusionRift hears Megalovania in the background. "Wait... I've done nothing! I'm a good boy!" Hears it stop. "Huh. Wonder what that was all about." Hears cursing int he background. "Oh, it was for someone else. Is'll good." :P
06:11 <Sans> Yea it was for Chara.
06:11 <Sans> Chara tried to destroy this timeline. I stopped them.
06:12 * ConfusionRift boops Sans... though he can't, since he technically doesn't have a nose, but maybe it's the action of booping? Can someone boop a skeleton? Can a skeleton boop a skeleton? What is considered a boop? Where am I? Who are you? Oh... hi. How's it going? I'm ConfusionRift, and you? :P
06:13 <Sans> Haha lol
06:13 <Sans> But I'm PinkieShy btw :)
06:13 <ConfusionRift> I know. :P [PinkieShy is now known as Sans]
06:45 * PrincessRainbows looks up at ConfusionRift like any little filly an grabby hooves desperately. Uppies?
06:50 * ConfusionRift grabbies PrincessRainbows, then pets. :P
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06:52 * PrincessRainbows wags her tail because excited filly
06:55 <PrincessRainbows> I have begun preparing for the eventuality where moving out isn't a choice (unless you count dying)
06:56 <PrincessRainbows> as in I'll have to if I want to live
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06:56 <PrincessRainbows> certainly to stay sane
07:00 * ConfusionRift nods. "Been thinking about that as well."
07:01 <PrincessRainbows> arguably I'm already to the latter... I think I'm slipping more every day
07:04 <PrincessRainbows> a good byproduct is that since with incredible difficulty, this house is borderline "accessible" after a decade, I'm doing more of my own stuff so I don't need to take *yay* from my folks
07:06 <PrincessRainbows> another is, one of those things is cooking. so food!
07:06 * PrincessRainbows offers ConfusionRift some bacon waffles, totally pony food
07:12 <ConfusionRift> Of course it's pony food. :P (noms and thankies PrincessRainbows)
07:17 <PrincessRainbows> ponies totally eat meat...
07:17 * Angeline slinks.
07:18 <PrincessRainbows> tho did they didn't taste overly of bacon
07:18 <PrincessRainbows> maybe less chives and more salt
07:18 * Alice graghs.
07:19 <PrincessRainbows> I also did crepes two days ago (I love breakfast...)
07:20 * PrincessRainbows licks Angeline just because
07:20 * Angeline whinnies and hides under Lumindia.
07:21 * PrincessRainbows whimpers, is sorries
07:21 <ConfusionRift> I like breakfast... though I miss it all the time.
07:22 <PrincessRainbows> me too normally, because there is nothing there
07:22 <ConfusionRift> I'm an owl. 0_0
07:23 <PrincessRainbows> but apparently we did have choices today
07:23 <Alice> I'm temporarily currently an owl.
07:23 <PrincessRainbows> leftover pancakes, a crepe, and arroz con leche
07:24 <PrincessRainbows> and now leftover waffles
07:24 <PrincessRainbows> next time I'll probably do dinner instead, I'm thinking patty melts
07:25 <Alice> Hum, temperature is stable at 97.6F according to this new thermometer.
07:25 <PrincessRainbows> it is the evolution of grilled cheese
07:28 <Alice> You know what I find interesting about older console games, in the SNES, Genesis and NES era, with the d-pad?
07:29 <Alice> Apparently, games on said platforms do not, under any circumstances, handle having Up+Down or Left+Right pressed at the same time.
07:30 <Alice> For reasons unknown, in many games, these combinations causes all sorts of problems.
07:30 <PrincessRainbows> I also ordered a clothes drying rack, I can find a few tubs to hand wash laundry, and am working on how to get into the main bathroom myself. I need some sort of hope of escape
07:37 <ConfusionRift> Alice: Then again, you're trying to go to every direction at the same time. :P
07:38 <ConfusionRift> Chances are it will either recognize 2-3 of the 4 inputs, or just register the last two. But there are games that can't handle that well at all.
07:41 <Alice> Honestly, it's not that difficult to handle the two-or-more-directions-pressed-at-the-same-time input situation.
07:41 <Alice> So why the games break down from opposing directions being pressed is beyond me.
07:42 <ConfusionRift> I bet it's because they didn't expect the player to do that.
07:42 <Alice> The only thing that comes to mind would be games utilizing interrupts to handle input rather than polling.
07:48 <Ali> Well it could be the controller was never designed to have opposite buttons pushed at the same time
07:49 <Ali> Since both Dpads are a single entity, pressing opposite buttons at the same time were probably deemed impossible and thus not programmed into consideration.
07:50 <Alice> That's the likely explanation.
07:50 <Alice> It's never been an assumption I made, thanks to computers, though.
07:50 <Alice> You can easily press opposing directions and combinations of action keys, etc.
07:51 <Alice> So, taking into account cases that are supposed to be impossible on a console into mind is always there.
07:51 <Alice> Usually, in the context of two opposing keys, you would just cancel the relevant action.
07:52 <Ali> Its one reason why Megaman 1 freaks out if rapid left and right imputs are entered in ice man's stage
07:53 <Alice> I just find the reaction of the conflicting inputs the interesting bit.
07:53 <Alice> Like, things unrelated to input just start happening.
07:54 <Alice> In many cases, nothing happens at all. In other cases, arbitrary code is executed, the game crashes, or some other weird behavior occurs.
07:54 <Alice> Like skipping over 2/3rds the game.
07:54 <Ali> Well like I said, with Megaman 1, you can cause the stage to end early, but it causes the game to be glitched for the rest of the game.
07:54 <Ali> Other times it can summon invisable Yellow Devils
07:54 <Alice> Huh, so that's what happens in that case? Interesting.
07:54 <Ali> And then others it crashes
07:58 <Ali> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fj7aHR8pGUs Alice, an example of glitch summoning Yellow Devil in Ice Man's stage.
07:59 <Alice> Huh.
08:00 <Ali> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZKAySqc7rs This showcases even more glitches
08:00 <Ali> But you can see that the player is rapidly pressing left and right
08:00 <Alice> Well, there is one way I can see how bugs can happen from it.
08:00 <Ali> So this writes some code that causes the game to freak out
08:00 <Alice> But I'd have to look at the code to verify that my idea is what's happening.
08:01 <Alice> The great thing about buttons, they can be represented by a single bit.
08:01 <Ali> It could be its writing a code with the button imputs that makes the game look at the code in Ram based on the hex value?
08:02 <Alice> If the bit is 0, the button is not being pressed. If it's 1, the button is being pressed.
08:02 <Alice> Yeah, but the issue is what causes that to start happening in the first place?
08:02 <Alice> It's one thing to write memory with inputs, but you need to start the process of using inputs to write arbitrary code.
08:02 <Ali> Would really have to have an emulator open with the ability to look at memory as to see what these imputs do to cause the thing to freak out.
08:03 <Alice> More, I'd have to watch the code processing the input to see what's going on first.
08:03 <Alice> There's.. Up, down, left, right, select, start, A and B for input. So 8 bits required.
08:04 <Alice> So a single byte can handle the entire controller.
08:04 <Ali> It would have to be somethiing odd with rapid left and right entries
08:04 <Alice> That it's not expecting them, yes.
08:04 <Ali> Causes it to look at a junk address due to overflow?
08:04 <Alice> Normally, the up/down/left/right inputs would be right next to one another in the byte, so bit masking and shifting would be able to extract all 4 inputs at once.
08:05 <Alice> From there, one could just use a jump table to switch to the appropriate processing state.
08:05 <Alice> But, if the table entry doesn't exist, for say, left+right, it could end up jumping to an unknown region of memory and executing code there.
08:06 <Alice> This assumes a jump table is being used though.
08:06 <Ali> Which could be code from other parts of the game?
08:06 <Alice> Yeah.
08:06 <Ali> This is megaman 1, so the coding is going to be at its weakest here
08:06 <Ali> But the wierd thing is
08:06 <Ali> Sometimes it can do nothing, other times it crashes the game
08:07 <Ali> And it can even reset the game as well
08:07 <Alice> Mmm. It's just a theory of what's happening. Again, I'd have to look at the code directly to figure out what's going on.
08:07 <Alice> Which, admittedly, would be easy for me to do.
08:07 <Alice> Easier than working with Etrian Odyssey 3 like I was back in December, anyhow.
08:07 <Ali> the harder part might be finding the address to where the button imputs are
08:08 <ConfusionRift> Be back in a bit.
08:09 <Alice> That's actually easy.
08:10 <Alice> Most consoles use memory-mapped I/O. This means that the input state is found at a specific memory location.
08:10 <Alice> And that location is USUALLY hardcoded.
08:10 <Alice> Some consoles allow remapping of some bits, but that is usually frowned upon.
08:12 <Alice> According to NESDEV, the method for reading input is..
08:14 <Alice> Write the integer 1 to the register mapped at address 0x4016 to start polling. Then write the integer 0 to the same address to finish polling. Then read the registers at 0x4016 and/or 0x4017 one bit at a time to get the state of the controllers.
08:16 <Alice> There seems to be a bug associated with it.
08:18 <Alice> When playing a DPCM audio effect, you have to be careful. If the APU's DMC initiates a read during an attempt to read from one of the ports, the data read from the ports MAY be invalid.
08:18 <Alice> Thus, with certain music or sound effects playing, you can trigger a bug if the game isn't well-designed.
08:19 <Alice> Though, this mostly manifests as spurious inputs, rather than overwriting memory locations and such.
08:20 <Alice> Apparently, the most common bug being "spurious right button press", so for example, a character itermittently moving towards the right even though no inputs are being touched.
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08:47 <ConfusionRift> Aaaand back.
08:54 <ConfusionRift> Hmm, did notice that. Might be due to the design back then, since most games were about "going right" from the start.
08:59 <ConfusionRift> Was also reminded of the Kirby Super Star glitch in Revenge of Metaknight; the first arrival at the Halberd. If you change your ability at a specific point in the song, certain effects and instruments are gone. Likely that they were using the same channel for those effects in the song, and the ability get chime.
09:01 <Finwe> Good noontide, everypony!
09:01 <Finwe> Lt Cdr ConfusionRift, Capt Koopz.
09:01 <Finwe> o7
09:01 <ConfusionRift> RAdm. Finwe. (salutes)
09:06 <Koopz> RAdm. Finwe o7
09:11 * PrincessRainbows grab her pacifier and plushie before curling up under ConfusionRift for sleepies
09:11 <PrincessRainbows> nini
09:11 * ConfusionRift lightly pats PrincessRainbows. "Have a good one."
09:15 <Finwe> Good night, PrincessRainbows!
09:16 * PrincessRainbows boops ConfusionRift with her snoot and Finwe too
09:16 <Finwe> o3o
09:32 <Alice> Guh, that was annoying.
09:32 * Dappled rises from the depths "Beware the forests mushrooms"
09:33 <Alice> Couldn't get ibus to work right with some software. For some reason, it was causing said pieces of software to lock up/get bogged down when I tried to switch input methods.
09:33 <Alice> Apparently, it has to do with a configuration file somewhere.
09:33 <Alice> The only solution to the problem is to remove all . files from the home directory, or move them elsewhere.
09:34 <ConfusionRift> Blarg.
09:35 <Alice> Which basically means every application I use has been reset to default settings.
09:35 <Alice> Meaning I have to reconfigure everything.
09:35 <ConfusionRift> Dappled: Don't eat the red and white mushrooms... or was it white and red? Hmmm. (checks his handy dandy survival manual) Ooooooh... whoops. (thuds)
09:35 <ConfusionRift> Ultra blarg.
09:36 <Alice> I wonder how that kind of confusion would be resolved in survival textbooks.
09:36 <Dappled> I just want Geno.
09:38 * Dappled doesn't understand why Nintendo hates Super Mario RPG.
09:39 * Alice makes a quick program for practicing some Japanese. o3o
09:41 * ConfusionRift shrugs... maybe because of Square?
09:41 <Alice> Right, my only compplaint with my current desk setup is the lack of a proper mousepad to use.
09:42 <Alice> And this table's too high, and too far from me, for using the mouse on it.
09:43 <Dappled> Maybe.
09:43 * Dappled chews on a stic.
09:43 <Dappled> stick.
09:46 <Alice> In other news, so, we finally exhausted the last of the old cat food, and switched to another food within the same brand that doesn't have any fish.
09:46 <Alice> Spitfire has been eating it and not vomiting everywhere.
09:52 * Angeline babbles at Dappled and sits beneath them sipping on a juice box.
09:52 * Dappled brushies.
09:55 * Angeline gravely munches on a breakfast bar while staring at Dappled with great big green eyes.
09:55 * ConfusionRift does the daily "look at the game list and not play anything" ritual.
09:55 * Dappled thinks that breakfast bars are good things. Nods sagely.
09:56 <Dappled> Oh, I love that ritual.
09:56 * Dappled occassionally expands the game list to have more things not to play.
09:56 <Alice> Man, switching back and forth between Japanese and English text for coding is funky.
09:57 <Alice> ConfusionRift, I've been having that issue a lot lately, myself. Though, probably for different reasons.
09:57 <Angeline> Have you got Factorio?
09:57 <Alice> In my case, it just feels like I don't have permission or "the right" to play games.
09:57 <Alice> Like I should be doing something else instead.
09:58 <ConfusionRift> I just feel like I don't have enough time to actually enjoy said games. And some give me issues when switching screens.
09:58 <ConfusionRift> Angeline: Sure doooo.
09:58 <Alice> I am so incredibly tempted to order a keyboard from Japan.
10:00 <Alice> Hell with it. I'm gonna do it.
10:00 <Alice> IME is a pain in the rear to work with.
10:00 * Dappled hides from Factorio.
10:00 <Angeline> Play Factorio.
10:01 * Dappled does not.
10:01 * Dappled doesn't have the mental capacity to learn that stuff.
10:01 <Angeline> It's not hard.
10:01 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Rainbow Dash Joins Hello Pinkie Pie - The Best Eclaire Jenga Player [ http://tinyurl.com/y4kdunlp ]
10:02 <ConfusionRift> I have been scatterbraining in the game something fierce, and end up with this spaghetti junction that I have to constantly modify to play around.
10:02 * Dappled 's played it before. It's hard and confusing.
10:02 * Dappled is dumb horse.
10:02 * Dappled 's a high school drop out. He can't be expected to learn or know things.
10:02 <Alice> It's a game that takes practice, destruction of your practice, more practice, more destruction, etc.
10:03 <Alice> Dappled, just because your a high school dropout doesn't mean you're stupid.
10:03 <ConfusionRift> You can always remove the bugs, and just play the main objective.
10:03 <Alice> High school is not for everyone, especially if it's an environment thing.
10:03 <Dappled> Stop taking away my excuses!
10:03 <Alice> You can do long-distance education and get your GED.
10:04 * Dappled 's in his 30s he got his Ged along time ago.
10:04 <Alice> Dappled, technically I'm a highschool dropout, and I'm a college graduate, and working on a university degree. :P
10:04 <ConfusionRift> There's also the sandbox in the game, if you wanna treat it like Transport Tycoon. :P
10:04 <Alice> I say technically, because I never attended high school. I got a GED instead.
10:04 <Alice> I refused to go to high school after my grade and elementary school periods.
10:04 <Alice> Which included a lot of bullying, being treated like I was a plague walker, and outright discrimination from the schools themselves.
10:06 * ConfusionRift looks at Satisfactory. "This one isn't that better. Except it's easier to deal with threats."
10:06 <Dappled> Given my amounts of free times it's much better to have games that are easy to pick up/put down without worrying about going "What the heck was I supposed to do" after not getting to play for weeks.
10:07 * ConfusionRift points at platformers. "Always an easy pick-up genre."
10:09 * ConfusionRift is tempted to start over in Psychonauts.
10:09 <ConfusionRift> Then again... not sure they fixed the port.
10:11 * Dappled opts for pokemon.
10:14 <Alice> There we go.
10:15 <Alice> Wrote a tool that generates a random time, prints it out, waits for me to press a key so I can try to guess how to pronounce it in Japanese, and then when I hit a key, it shows me the Japanese words for the time specified.
10:16 * Alice looks at prices for Japanese keyboards.
10:17 <Alice> This one person on Amazon is trying to sell them for $150.
10:17 <ConfusionRift> "They're imported..."
10:18 * Lumindia yawns flops
10:19 * Angeline climbs onto Dappled.
10:19 * Angeline babbles about NEOScavenger.
10:20 <Alice> As for the difference in keyboards, it's actually not just keycap differences.
10:20 <ConfusionRift> You know what? Gonna take my chances in Noita.
10:20 <Alice> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_input_method#/media/File:SideWinder_X4_Keyboard_Japanese.jpg Look to the left and right of the space bar. And to the left of the 1 key.
10:21 <Alice> Oh, it had a space in the name, it's not gonna work.
10:21 <Alice> You'll have to copy and paste up to the ".jpg" part.
10:21 * ConfusionRift opened it normally just fine.
10:21 <AppleDash> Same
10:21 <Alice> Ah, must just be on my end it's not appearing right.
10:21 <ConfusionRift> No worries. :P
10:22 <ConfusionRift> Yep, a big nope on my part, simply because I have no clue of any of the characters.
10:22 <Alice> Anyways, the extra keys, as far as I understand, are "no conversion" to the left of the space bar, "kana" to the right, and the key that replaces tilde, no clue. o3o
10:24 <Alice> Actually, it seems it depends on the keyboard altogether.
10:25 <Alice> But in general, one key is called "conversion"(Not "no conversion"), which converts the last written kana or kana phrase into kanji. There's a "romaji" key on some keyboards, which switches to English typing...
10:26 * Dappled ponders rewatching My Next Life as a Villianess. Best thing since Ouran High Host Club
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10:30 <Alice> Man, I'd like to complain about how Japanese has special cases for stuff like a certain age, or certain time words, etc. But English has it's own problems in that manner.
10:31 <Dappled> Which is why we should all agree to write everything in Wingdings.
10:31 <RazorSharpFang> Wingdings is a font, not a language.
10:31 <RazorSharpFang> Also, you don't write in fonts either.
10:31 <Alice> For example, the number 20 is "nijyuu." It's usually <number>jyuu for each tens number. So jyuu for 10, nijyuu for 20, sanjyuu for 30, etc, etc, etc.
10:32 <Alice> And in age, it... mostly follows that pattern.
10:32 <Alice> Except for 20 years old.
10:32 <RazorSharpFang> I thought 30 was Han
10:32 <Alice> 20 years old, is explicitly a separate word.
10:32 <RazorSharpFang> 半
10:32 <Alice> Japanese, Razor.
10:32 <RazorSharpFang> Yes.
10:32 <Alice> 3 is san, so 30 is sanjyuu.
10:33 <Alice> Anyways, 20 years old - "hatachi"
10:33 <Alice> Whereas every other age uses <number>sai or a slight variation of it.
10:33 <Lumindia> why is 20 years old a seperate word?
10:33 <Alice> I have no idea.
10:33 <RazorSharpFang> Okay, but 5:30 PM is 午後語時半
10:33 <Dappled> At least it's not counting in... French? I think french is the insane language when it comes to counting.
10:33 <Alice> RazorSharpFang: han is "half past"
10:33 <Alice> In the context of time.
10:34 <RazorSharpFang> Oh, I see. I thought it was 30 in general, like 20 had an exception.
10:34 <Alice> Thus, sanjihan is 3:30
10:34 <RazorSharpFang> 二十歳 ?
10:34 <Alice> You CAN however, say sanjisanjippun for 3:30, though. Just sounds weird.
10:35 <RazorSharpFang> I would not be able to say that well
10:35 <Alice> Yep.
10:35 <Alice> As for what you just wrote, it's acceptable. Just it's apparently more common to hear はたち.
10:36 <Alice> There are these sorts of peculiarities everywhere in the language. But I can't really complain, as English is no better.
10:36 <RazorSharpFang> Hmm? I thought those Kanji WERE pronounced AS `hatachi` when they are in that order?
10:37 <Alice> Ah, so it is.
10:37 <Alice> The other form I wrote again, is acceptable, but yeah,.
10:40 <RazorSharpFang> I'm terrible with the numbering for hundred, thousand, ten-thousand, hundred-thousand, million etc
10:42 * Filly_Nightmares curls up on Alice lap and uses RazorSharpFang as a blankie and goes sleepies on
10:45 <Alice> Whelp, that's age tool down. Last one's just gonna be a massive case switch.
10:45 <RazorSharpFang> I love really big switch-cases.
10:45 <Alice> 31 days, each of them pronounced slightly differently for some danged reason.
10:46 <Alice> At least months are easy.
10:47 <RazorSharpFang> Wait, what?
10:47 <RazorSharpFang> Each day of the month is pronounced different?
10:47 <Alice> Let me rephrase.
10:48 <Alice> They aren't pronounced by any distinct pattern. For example, tsuitachi = 1st of the month, futsuka = 2nd day of the month, mikka = 3rd day, and so on. It gets weird at 14.
10:50 <Alice> See, a common person would assume that 11, would be jyuutsuitachi. It's jyuuichinichi. Then we go onto 12, you'd expect jyuufutsuka, but nope, it's jyuuninichi, and so on. It's... weird.
10:50 <RazorSharpFang> So, how would you say "14th February" in Japanese?
10:51 <Alice> nigatsujyuuyokka.
10:52 <Alice> Actually, looking at the dates..
10:52 <Alice> All of them that end in 4 follow an expected pattern. It's the rest that don't.
10:52 <ConfusionRift> Hey look, I died... quickly as well. (grumbles at that wand)
10:53 <RazorSharpFang> Interestingly, if I plug "14th February" into Google Translate it writes out `2 Tsuki 14-nichi` but it speaks `nigatsujyuuyokka`
10:53 <RazorSharpFang> Quality software
10:53 <Alice> For months, the only odd ones are April and July. They use the old pronunciation of 4 and 7, respectively.
10:54 <Alice> Thus, rather than yongatsu for April, or nanagatsu for July, it's shigatsu and shichigatsu respectively.
10:55 <Alice> Which gives me the impression that there's either resistance to changing these, or they just like being inconsistent.
10:55 <Alice> As for why the numbers 4 and 7 changed... 4 changed because it's original pronunciation, shi, is also the pronunciation for the kanji "death." Thus, shi = death. For 7, no clue.
10:55 <RazorSharpFang> Messing with timekeping might have implications for accounting.
10:56 <Alice> Being born on April 4th must be real fun.
10:56 <RazorSharpFang> I thought "shichi" and "hachi" or "ichi" "shi" might be too close to hear on poor phone lines.
10:56 * Dappled remembers that thing about shi from animal crossing... Goes to bed. Night ya ponies.
10:57 <Alice> I don't know, RazorSharpFang. It's possible.
10:57 <Alice> But the history regarding the change was never taught to us.
11:00 <Alice> Parents be up.
11:04 <Alice> Parent, rather.
11:05 <RazorSharpFang> Well, I haven't been assigned yet on my sold puts, so that's good.
11:10 <Alice> Hmm?
11:11 <RazorSharpFang> I'm trading stock options.
11:11 <Alice> Ah.
11:11 <Alice> Yeah, outside my area of expertise.
11:13 <RazorSharpFang> Gist is that I win if the stock stays above this agreed price. If it falls below this agreed price, I have agreed to buy it at that price if the person I sold the contract to wants to buy at that agreed price.
11:14 <RazorSharpFang> I got paid $40 USD for agreeing to that contract.
11:18 <RazorSharpFang> I also sold a put against AT&T. I win unless AT&T falls quite a fair way.
11:26 * Alice reads some Not The Onion news.
11:26 <Alice> ... An oil exec promoted gas as a way to reach net zero emmissions by 2050.
11:26 <Alice> That's... I.... What.
11:26 <RazorSharpFang> Big Gas.
11:27 <RazorSharpFang> As it happens, I think there's a lot of potential in wood-gas, but that's a different kind of gas from a different source.
11:28 <Alice> Yeah, this is gas extraction from the ground, which, among other things, creates lots of pollution.
11:28 <Alice> I guess no matter what country you go to, you're gonna have these executive types trying to pass off their polluting tech as somehow the savior of the world.
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11:28 <RazorSharpFang> The good news is that plants grow better with higher CO2 concentration. The bad news is that this includes algae
11:29 <Alice> Yerp.
11:29 <RazorSharpFang> I'm thinking we could do some algae farming if we wanted to.
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11:36 <RazorSharpFang> I'm also thinking that we could get our way out of this if we go nuclear.
11:43 <RazorSharpFang> My idea is that we could do vertical farming of algae or similar quick-growing biomass, then pyrolyse the produce to concentrate carbon in the form of charcoal. This carbon is CO2 out of the atmosphere.
11:53 <Alice> Hum, I should go take a shower. Back in a bit.
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12:18 <Alice> Back.
12:22 <ConfusionRift> Welcome back.
12:23 <Alice> Thanks. Shower felt good.
12:23 <Alice> In other news, something is bothering me.
12:23 <Alice> For the last three days, I've spent a majority of my time downstairs in my little office room.
12:24 <Alice> I only just started a new antibiotic yesterday, for my coughing.
12:24 <Alice> But my coughing has already improved substantially. Like, amazingly well.
12:24 <Alice> I don't even feel sick now.
12:26 <Alice> I'm wondering if being on the bottom floor changes the air quality at all for me.
12:26 <Alice> Or if, being right next to the furnace helps.
12:27 * ConfusionRift shrugs. "Hard to say."
12:28 <Alice> Well, we'll see I guess.
12:28 <Alice> I'll keep an eye on my lung health while I'm down here.
12:28 <Alice> Things should also improve after the duct cleaning, probably, too.
12:29 <ConfusionRift> Depends, because it could also make things worse for a bit, since all that dirt is getting pushed out everywhere.
12:31 <ConfusionRift> Many variables to check.
12:32 <Alice> Mmhmm.
12:32 <Alice> I suspect for my room to get better, I'd need a duct cleaning, and for the air return to be cleaned out.
12:43 <Lumindia> I have returned from the grocery store with ingredients for shakshouka
12:44 <Alice> I have no idea what that is.
12:46 <Lumindia> poached eggs in a spicy tomato sauce
12:46 <Lumindia> https://static01.nyt.com/images/2020/02/10/dining/mc-shakshuka/mc-shakshuka-articleLarge.jpg
12:47 <ConfusionRift> Mmmmm.
12:48 <Lumindia> looks good?
12:48 <ConfusionRift> Does to me.
12:49 <Lumindia> I plan on making that tomorrow
12:50 <Alice> Oh, that looks nice.
12:57 <Lumindia> in XIV it was also top tier raid food at the end of stormblood
12:57 <Lumindia> https://i.imgur.com/rb9LouU.png
13:05 * Angeline pushes Lumindia.
13:06 <Angeline> Friendly reminder that the FFXIV Stormblood progression raid content, 'Return to Ivalice', caused me to bawl like I was actually Angeline's age.
13:06 <Lumindia> o.o? how so?
13:09 <Angeline> Because when I was five or six, it was a game into which I poured hours of my life.
13:09 <Angeline> I had a quarter century of love and devotion to that game and to its characters.
13:09 <Angeline> And to see it end like that broke a dam.
13:10 <Angeline> The entire thing was an absolute rollercoaster of emotion, mind.
13:10 <Angeline> Hate for Argath
13:11 <Lumindia> ah
13:11 <Lumindia> I never played much of FFT, so I don't have the same emotional attachment or dislike of the characters
13:11 <Angeline> Sadness evanescing into something between depression and antipathy as I battled my way past old compatriots.
13:11 <Lumindia> Heck T.G. Cid, though
13:11 <Lumindia> doing that on patch day was ROOUGGHH
13:12 <Angeline> Jaw-clenched finality facing down Ultima once more.
13:12 <Lumindia> how long ago did you do this?
13:12 <Angeline> To the current of life we succumb. Its judgement swift and final. Its bite as cold as steel.
13:13 <Angeline> Would have been uhhh.
13:13 * Alice wanders off to lecture time! o3o
13:13 <Angeline> Shadowbringers was out.
13:13 <Angeline> One second.
13:13 <Alice> Back in two hours.
13:14 <Angeline> Around whatever month 5 is
13:14 <Angeline> (I'm bad with months)
13:16 <Angeline> Oh
13:16 <Angeline> no
13:16 <Angeline> Correction
13:16 <Angeline> 11/25/19
13:17 <Angeline> Anyway, it hurt.
13:17 <Angeline> And the ending was a catharsis I neither expected nor understood I knew
13:19 <Angeline> Also, Lumindia.
13:19 <Angeline> You know all those quotes they have when they're using their attacks?
13:19 <Angeline> Not only are those attacks callbacks to Final Fantasy Tactics, but so are the quotes
13:19 <Angeline> For instance, Crush Accessory used to be called Icewolf Bite.
13:19 <Angeline> "Hark! The screams of ruin rise above the storm's discord. Shudder not in Her endless cold."
13:19 <Angeline> The adds it spawns? Icewolves.
13:20 <Angeline> Seven shadows cast, seven fates foretold. Yet at the end of the broken path lies death, and death alone!
13:20 <Angeline> That one's Northswain's Strike
13:21 * Angeline pokes Lumindia.
13:21 <Alice> Zoom, right now is NOT the time to take your sweet *** time doing password recovery for me.
13:23 * Angeline flops over. She broke Lumin.
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13:27 * Lumindia pokes back
13:27 <Lumindia> I was in E5N
13:28 <Alice> Man, I don't know why, but I am stressed this morning.
13:28 <Lumindia> all the DPS and Healers died from the clouds merging
13:28 <Angeline> But the best quote wasn't from Cid
13:28 <Lumindia> except me
13:28 <Angeline> It was Agrias.
13:28 * Lumindia laughs in red mage
13:28 <Angeline> Divine Ruination.
13:28 <Angeline> Also known as
13:28 <Angeline> Holy Explosion.
13:28 <Angeline> The original 90s FFT's quote for it was 'Heaven's wish to destroy all minds... Holy Explosion!'
13:29 <Angeline> The new quote is infinitely better, as it doesn't suffer from poor translation.
13:29 <Angeline> Those who dwell aloft have spoken. Let their words echo in your empty soul. Ruination is come!
13:30 <Lumindia> I actually have the disc for FFT right next to me
13:30 <Lumindia> speaking of FFT
13:31 <Lumindia> https://www.twitch.tv/fftbattleground
13:31 <Lumindia> give this a look
13:31 <Lumindia> basically it's a bunch of AI named after twitch users that enter fighting against each other
13:33 <Alice> Stupid antibiotics. Starting to knock me down.
13:34 <Angeline> wow
13:34 <Angeline> Anyway, Lumindia, for me, Return to Ivalice was
13:34 <Angeline> Not something that will easily be replicable in the future.
13:34 <Lumindia> also... red chocobos
13:34 <Lumindia> >:3
13:34 * Angeline giggles.
13:34 <Angeline> They weren't that bad
13:34 <Angeline> choco meteor
13:34 <Lumindia> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVan_T0lLlM
13:34 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.
13:34 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Red Chocobos
13:34 <Lumindia> I was there super early for it
13:34 <Lumindia> it was chaos
13:39 * Angeline boops Lumindia on the nose.
13:39 <Angeline> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YoWEMeJMP5U
13:40 <Angeline> oh wait
13:40 <Angeline> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YoWEMeJMP5U
13:40 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about The Legend of Link - S3RL feat Mixie Moon
13:42 * Lumindia is booped
13:42 * Lumindia falls over
13:42 <Lumindia> aaa
13:43 <Angeline> But yeah
13:43 <Angeline> It was super powerful
13:44 <Angeline> Sword in hand...
13:44 <Angeline> A warrior clutches stone to breast...
13:44 <Angeline> In sword etched he his fading memories...
13:44 <Angeline> In stone he tempered his skill...
13:45 <Angeline> By sword attested, by stone revealed!
13:45 <Angeline> Their tale can now be told!
13:46 <Alice> I'm glad quizzes aren't worth much. Pretty sure I bombed that one.
13:46 <Alice> I lost my first week to study to sleep deprivation *YAY*, so I'm doing catch-up of sorts, right now.
13:55 <Lumindia> also Angie, I've only had two wishes for RDM glamour
13:55 <Lumindia> and I've been denied BOTH of them by job restrictions
13:55 <Lumindia> 1) Zorro : https://cdn.britannica.com/70/182870-050-FB2811FD/Lobby-card-The-Sign-of-Zorro-Norman.jpg
13:56 <Lumindia> 2) Dread Pirate Roberts : https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0289/1534/products/QMx_PB_Westley_1-6_Articulated-01_988x988_4bc07595-778b-402b-a727-83b57e8dc584_grande.jpg
13:56 <Lumindia> 1) The hat that RDM can wear for Zorro can't be dyed
13:57 <Lumindia> https://i.imgur.com/Gkc5XHK.png
13:57 <Lumindia> the hat that would work for D.P. Roberts can't be worn by RDM
13:57 <Lumindia> https://i.imgur.com/SZadsbG.png
14:01 <Angeline> I mean
14:01 <Angeline> Let's face it
14:02 <Angeline> Both of those are almost the same thing Lumin
14:02 <Angeline> Zorro and DPR
14:02 <Angeline> And let's face it
14:02 <Angeline> It's also like
14:02 <Angeline> the #1 thing almost all Red Mages want
14:03 <Angeline> !link https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/22921083
14:03 <DerpyBot> Twilight says the library only has pictures from e621 and derpibooru, videos from youtube and books from google docs.
14:03 <Angeline> Oh
14:03 <Angeline> Hmm.
14:03 <Angeline> Well, regardless
14:03 <Finwe> The notorious Red Wizards of Thay?
14:03 <Angeline> N
14:03 <Angeline> The good Red Wizards
14:03 <Angeline> From Final Fantasy
14:03 <Angeline> Not lich wannabes
14:03 <Finwe> Wouldn't know about them.
14:04 <Finwe> I'm only familiar with those of Thay and the ones on Krynn who follow Lunitari.
14:06 <Angeline> But at any rate
14:06 <Angeline> my character is a gunbreaker
14:08 * Finwe noms on Angeline's character.
14:11 * Lumindia noms on Finwe
14:12 * Angeline snuggles under Lumindia and is quiet. Apologizes for her outburst and weirdness.
14:13 * Lumindia patpats
14:13 * Lumindia offers Angie some cookies and milk. 'w'
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14:18 <Alice> ねこがだいすきです。
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14:23 * Finwe hats on Moongoodgirl.
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14:29 <Alice> 好きな食べ物は何ですか？
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14:39 * Moongoodgirl has a Finwe on her :o
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14:41 <Alice> Bah. Zoom won't let me type into the chat using IME.
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14:47 <RazorSharpFang> Could you type into notepad and then copy/paste text over?
14:53 <Alice> I can, yeah.
15:04 * PrincessRainbows boops Lumindia with her pacifier and whimpers. Already I have an immense feeling of dread and hopelessness
15:04 <PrincessRainbows> And I just woke up
15:05 <Tirek> Your slumber has pleased the dark lords.
15:05 <Tirek> We hope to see you soon.
15:06 <Alice> My stomach is doing a 720 no-scope on itself.
15:09 * Finwe boops PrincessRainbows.
15:09 * Alice distraction dances.
15:13 <PrincessRainbows> I think I finally know why I never bother to actually try another antidepressant, I can't handle anymore false hope
15:30 <Alice> Man, nothing like leg pain from power walking to remind you just how little you went outside this year.
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16:13 <RazorSharpFang> Tonight I had a good options trading session. I closed my position in Exxon Mobil, and have sold puts against AT&T. I win if AT&T stays above $29 a share.
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16:46 *** ChanServ sets mode: +qo Ali Ali
16:52 * Ali boops Starlight_Glimmer and grabs for snugs.
16:53 * Starlight_Glimmer leans into Ali
17:01 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Makenshi: Reverse Discord Music: Night Blaze - Concord [Orchestral/Soundtrack] [ http://tinyurl.com/yxdwrnds ]
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17:04 <Finwe> Lt Pony|83928.
17:04 <Finwe> o7
17:06 * Pony|83928 waves.
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17:45 * PrincessRainbows hugs Ali really tight and hides underneath the pony
17:45 * Ali eeps and hides PrincessRainbows
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18:01 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Fanfiction: The Perfect Hearth's Warming [ http://tinyurl.com/y6r7w8ny ]
18:04 * PrincessRainbows sads and clutches Ali like a plushie
18:05 <Schism> How the blazes do I do this. Noticing small features of the system which otherwise were ignored or ill-documented and which provide useful information (or a way to break those systems) seems to be what my cutie mark would entail.
18:07 <PrincessRainbows> Everyone here is just so mean to each other and some days it's just hard
18:07 * Schism hugs the PrincessRainbows... and sighs. "Wish I didn't have to run to work..."
19:50 <Alice> So, random tidbit, due to watching more TAS videos. Metroid Prime, Thardus, the giant rock monster which requires the thermal visor to defeat.
19:50 <Alice> I once killed it without the thermal visor, *AND* without locking on.
19:57 <Alice> It's about as difficult and frustrating as it sounds. With no lock-on, and no visor, you have to know which parts to shoot, when, and how to dodge without the lockon.
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20:01 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Drawfriend Stuff (Pony Art Gallery) #3463 [ http://tinyurl.com/yys9mo6e ]
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20:47 * Dappled horse.
20:48 * Ali glomps Dappled horse and keeps them from work cause pono needs snugglefrands.
20:49 * Dappled brushies.
20:56 <Starlight_Glimmer> No no no. We can't have that!
20:56 * Starlight_Glimmer keeps the Ali all to herself.
20:57 * Ali flails and whines at Starlight_Glimmer
20:59 * Starlight_Glimmer is very protective of their mares.
20:59 <Starlight_Glimmer> Imagine all the cuteness rubbing off!
21:00 * Starlight_Glimmer tightly embraces Ali
21:00 * Ali has zero cutenesss remember
21:01 <Starlight_Glimmer> Keep telling yourself that. Doesn't help.
21:04 * PinkieShy holds a cuteness detector in the room
21:04 * PinkieShy points it towards Ali and it goes off the charts
21:05 * Ali tells PinkieShy its obviously broken
21:08 * Lumindia holds a 'silly pony' detector up to Ali. It starts beeping rapidly
21:10 * Alice grabs the detector. "Give me that!" She holds it up to Lumindia. It starts beeping rapidly. She holds it up to herself. It starts beeping rapidly. She holds it up to a moldy loaf of bred. It starts beeping rapidly. "..."
21:11 <Lumindia> '-'
21:11 <Lumindia> I don't actually know what that detects
21:11 * Dappled supsects Alice is holding it backwards.
21:12 <Alice> No.
21:12 <Alice> It's got labeling on it that says "This way forward."
21:13 <Alice> It also has another label on it...
21:13 * Alice looks close. "It reads 'ACME EYE-DEE-TEN-TEE DETECTOR MK. I"
21:20 <Alice> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2mOwe5RAck ... I was wondering if such a video existed.
21:20 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.
21:20 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Henry Stickmin distract Ronan in Guardians of the Galaxy
21:23 <Schism> Sigh. Again, an early lunch in the day...
21:23 *** PinkieShy is now known as Sans
21:24 <Alice> Meanwhile, I'm waiting for cough syrup and meds to knock me out.
21:26 * Lumindia holds up baseball bat
21:26 <Lumindia> I can help with that
21:26 <Lumindia> o wo
21:26 * Alice uses PK Fire on Lumindia.
21:26 * Lumindia burns
21:27 * Lumindia frickin' dies
21:31 *** Joins: Stormspark (stormspark@Pony-25m.dcd.98.172.IP)
21:44 * PrincessRainbows also hugs Lumindia really tight
21:45 * Lumindia squeakse
21:51 <Lumindia> ....
21:51 <Lumindia> I'm just catching up on the PS5 trailers
21:51 <Lumindia> Is that an open world Harry Potter game I'm seeing?
21:52 * Dappled is much more interested in Demon's Souls and Spider-Man: Miles Morales
22:00 *** Quits: Angeline (Scootaloo@I.Will.Fly.Higher) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds)
22:01 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Teepublic's Monthly Sale Begins - Lots of New Fandom Artist Designs, $13 Shirts/35% off Everything [ http://tinyurl.com/y5txwhsp ]
23:47 * PrincessRainbows boops Lumindia a lot before trotting off
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