00:02 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Discussion: What Would Be Your Ideal Sunset Shimmer in Equestria Episode? [ http://tinyurl.com/y3o4adwz ]
00:03 <Stormspark> for Nvidia EVGA hands down
00:03 <Schism> Newegg crashed when the 3080 was released. XD;
00:04 <Schism> The human DDOS.
00:04 <Lumindia> actually, heck it, I've decided to stick with the 2060 super, and I can get a HDD Platter down the line if I need to
00:04 <Lumindia> I think 1.5TB of space will be enough, as I don't really do video editing to warrant having extra archival space for raw video
00:11 <Lumindia> though I will need another monitor, as my second doesn't have HDMI input
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01:02 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Drawfriend Stuff (Pony Art Gallery) #3469 [ http://tinyurl.com/yyxo4njy ]
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02:02 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Nightly Discussion #2290 [ http://tinyurl.com/y5fjpygn ]
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03:02 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Makenshi: Community Classic Remix: Omnipony - Equestria in Grey (Fetlocked Remix) [Drum & Bass] [ http://tinyurl.com/yyfj2aru ]
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03:22 * Schism flings all the Swedish Fish off a bridge.
03:22 <Schism> (Surstromming can stay, though.)
03:23 <Schism> https://twitter.com/foxxi_loxxi/status/1308451019421110275
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03:45 * Ali grabbies Schism for snuggies
03:58 * Schism noms the Ali, and offers a nice light ginger honey salad.
03:58 * Ali yays and noms the food
03:59 <Schism> Mais oui, death to Swedish Fish. <.< Also, Twizzlers.
04:01 <Schism> Huh, why's Kitchener trending... oh, sports. Eh.
04:02 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Sunset Shimmer Day - Open Art Compilation [ http://tinyurl.com/y6ap7day ]
04:05 <Schism> Aw, I am sad. Laser Quest is shutting down.
04:11 <Schism> Alice: Sakuna looks like a game you might be interested in.
04:16 * PrincessRainbows flops on Ali and makes upset little filly noises
04:16 * Ali snugs PrincessRainbows into Schism
04:17 * Schism offers the PrincessRainbows a chicken veggie pot pie.
04:18 * PrincessRainbows grabs a pacifier and flailyhooves at Ali
04:22 <Ali> Ah Alice would be proud of my strip mining that killed 50MW of power on 20MW of steam engines
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05:36 * Schism is hard and cold, as changelings are.
05:44 * PrincessRainbows hugs Ali extra tight hoping for sleepy magic
05:44 * Ali tries to use a sleepy spell on PrincessRainbows, but feels it won't work.
05:45 * PrincessRainbows just clutches her life-size Ali plushie that feels too realistic and goes sleepies
05:45 * Ali gives PrincessRainbows night night pats and tucks her to bed.
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05:54 <Finwe> Morning, my perissodactyls of minute stature.
05:54 <Finwe> Mlles Ali, Alice, Filly_Nightmares, PrincessRainbows and Schism; Mr Lumindia.
05:54 * Finwe doffs his hat.
05:54 * Ali doffs over Finwe and grumblycakes
05:55 <Finwe> … don't grumble, give a whistle!
05:55 <Finwe> And that will make the things turn out for best.
05:56 <Finwe> And always look on the bright side of life…
05:56 * Finwe snuggles the Ali.
05:58 * PrincessRainbows boops Finwe with an Ali and giggles
05:58 * Finwe scrunchymuzzles.
05:58 <Finwe> *scrunch*
05:59 * PrincessRainbows boops herself too
06:00 <Finwe> Don't forget to crunchymuzzle. o3o
06:19 * PrincessRainbows rubs her snoot and sneezies
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06:32 * PrincessRainbows boops Ali's snoot too cause why not
06:32 * Ali squeaks and leans into PrincessRainbows
06:33 * PrincessRainbows hugs Ali a lot and licks too
06:33 * Ali gives PrincessRainbows more sleppy filly powder.
06:35 * PrincessRainbows yawns and nibbles on Ali's hooves
06:36 * Ali eeps and brushies PrincessRainbows
06:41 * PrincessRainbows blehs, is sleepy filly. curls up under Ali with her favorite pacifier and plushie for sleepies then. nini
06:42 <Schism> Sometimes I wouldn't mind not having a neck. http://maximumble.thebookofbiff.com/comic/1999-sharp/
06:47 * Ali flumps into Schism
06:51 * Finwe ruffles the Ali.
06:52 <Finwe> The number of new infections is on the rise again. New restrictions have been planned.
06:52 <Finwe> Joyous as stabbing yourself in the thigh with a knife.
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07:05 <ConfusionRift> Hello everypony.
07:05 * Ali grabs ConfusionRift and sighs
07:05 * ConfusionRift huggles Ali.
07:08 <Finwe> Lt Cdr ConfusionRift, Capt Koopz.
07:08 <Finwe> o7
07:09 * Finwe hides under Ali.
07:12 <Koopz> RAdm. Finwe o7
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07:12 <Finwe> Mr Golden.
07:12 * Finwe doffs his hat.
07:13 * Golden flops.
07:13 * Finwe flips
07:13 <Finwe> o3o
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07:18 <Golden> I have beat the Ghostbusters remastered on Switch
07:21 <ConfusionRift> ...excuse me?
07:23 * ConfusionRift looks it up. "There was a remake of... guuuuuh."
07:23 * ConfusionRift thuds.
07:24 <Ali> 2020, the year of freaking remakes
07:24 <ConfusionRift> Actually... it was released last year, apparently.
07:25 <Finwe> o3o!
07:25 <Finwe> Do not blame 2020 for everything.
07:25 * ConfusionRift removes "Do not ". :P
07:27 <ConfusionRift> But yeah. It's been mostly remakes and ports.
07:27 <ConfusionRift> Gotta fill that money void somehow.
07:29 <Finwe> !muffins
07:29 <DerpyBot> Muffins!! You have any? :3
07:29 <Finwe> Yup.
07:29 * DerpyBot glomps Finwe
07:32 <Golden> The Ghostbusters game is fun.
07:33 <Golden> Plus with it being so close to October, and the game being 20$ at Walmart well.
07:45 <Finwe> Is October the traditional ghostbusting month?
07:58 <Schism> ConfusionRift: https://twitter.com/sami_jen/status/1308434009538441220
07:59 <ConfusionRift> heheheee!
08:00 <Ali> Schism, NONE of our twitter links works for me
08:00 <Ali> with a y
08:00 <Schism> Ali: That is weird... @_@
08:00 * Finwe noms on Ali's web browser.
08:01 <Ali> It tries to pop it up in the twitter app, which I don't like, but now it doesn't even open it.
08:04 * Finwe is still not convinced of the beatific ifluence of Twitter.
08:04 <Finwe> *influence
08:05 <ConfusionRift> That's an oddity.
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08:15 * Ali rolls around ConfusionRift and Schism
08:17 <Finwe> Rolling Pones. o3o
08:22 * Ali boops Finwe nosie
08:23 * Schism looks at the life-sized Gundam in Yokohama. "Robotics;Notes much?"
08:24 * ConfusionRift boops Ali. :P
08:24 <Ali> Yeah I saw that
08:24 * Ali squeaks at ConfusionRift
08:24 * Finwe scrunchymuzzles at Ali.
08:26 * Golden rolls around.
08:33 <ConfusionRift> Be right back.
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08:34 * ConfusionRift squeaks at Ali. :P
08:35 * Ali squeaks in return to ConfusionRift
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08:43 * Golden squeaks in general.
08:50 * ConfusionRift checks BL3 on PC. "My goodness... I never get used to the frame changes and the quicker response of my 144hz monitor when comparing versions."
08:50 * ConfusionRift changes the controls to Old School Southpaw, and then changes them back.
08:51 <ConfusionRift> Whomever can play this game with that control scheme, just... wow. It's terrible.
08:58 <Golden> I am still burnt out on BL3...
08:59 <Golden> I have been since about a month after it's release. Still haven't beaten the main story
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09:02 <Finwe> ConfusionRift: YMM "Whomever this game can play".
09:02 <Finwe> Or possibly, "Whoever can play this game". o3o
09:10 <ConfusionRift> Yes... eeerm, that.
10:02 * Finwe boops Schism with a DOS port of SM64: https://github.com/mkst/sm64-port/tree/dos
10:10 * Filly_Nightmares uses Golden as a bed
10:11 * Golden pats Filly_Nightmares.
10:16 <Finwe> o3o
10:16 * Finwe blankets on Filly_Nightmares.
10:16 * Filly_Nightmares yawnskrees and clutchies Finwe
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10:46 * Alice flops.
10:47 * ConfusionRift boops Finwe. No reason. Just boopin'.
10:47 <Finwe> *scrunch*
10:50 * Golden yawns as he heads on off for bed. Night pones.
10:51 <ConfusionRift> Have a good one!
11:02 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Morning Discussion #2063 [ http://tinyurl.com/y2kj9hpc ]
11:06 * Alice stretches and yawns. *CRACK!*
11:06 * ConfusionRift looks around. "The heck was that noise?"
11:08 <Alice> https://voca.ro/11hRcelNPw8P It was my wrist. Sorry.
11:09 <Alice> That's what my right wrist sounds like these days.
11:09 <Alice> My parents hate the noise. It doesn't hurt, either.
11:09 <ConfusionRift> Sounds like galloping. :P
11:10 <Alice> That's because I was moving my hand at a set frequency. :P
11:10 <Alice> I suspect that noise is the result of all those years punching walls, and nearly breaking my wrist at one point.
11:10 <ConfusionRift> Most likely.
11:11 <Alice> Wouldn't surprise me if I actually did break my wrist, and it never actually healed, and all the bone fragments are free-floating now.
11:11 <Alice> Because I've yet to acquire carpal tunnel, which is usually the result of a pinched/inflamed nerve in the wrist.
11:11 <Alice> The closest I get to it is the strain on my hand from writing.
11:12 <ConfusionRift> The most I get is clicking sound when I move my fingers when I crackle them too much.
11:13 <ConfusionRift> Yeah, strains as well. And heavy crackling if I use my hands too often, especially after lifting stuff for too long.
11:14 <Alice> The only joints that make any noise in my body are my wrists and knees. My neck pops very rarely on occasion.
11:14 <Alice> Otherwise, every other joint in my body feels fine.
11:14 * ConfusionRift nods.
11:14 <Alice> Though, I am screwed in one area.
11:14 <Alice> Both my parents have had arthritis in their right shoulder shred away the tendon.
11:15 <Alice> The fact that both of them suffered it is a bit... concerning.
11:15 <Alice> Since there's a good chance that I'll have the same problem, due to genetics.
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11:18 <ConfusionRift> Since it's the year of remakes and ports... (looks around) Disney... can I get a Quack Shot remake? Pretty pleeease?
11:19 <Alice> I'd like a Darkwing Duck remake, myself.
11:19 <ConfusionRift> Why not both?
11:20 <ConfusionRift> Put it in a nice self contained bundle. :P
11:20 <ConfusionRift> The games aren't that long, so yeah. It would make sense.
11:21 <Finwe> Alice: What grudge do you hold against the walls to batter them with your fists?
11:21 <Alice> It was either the walls or people. Why do you think I chose walls?
11:22 <Finwe> People are more mobile and can escape.
11:22 <Alice> The campus gyms were off limits, as well. They were outrageously expensive.
11:22 <RazorSharpFang> Because people are soft
11:22 <Alice> Also...
11:22 <Alice> I chose walls because the intent was not to hurt someone else, but hurt myself.
11:22 <Finwe> Remember, anger leads to hate, and hate lies on the dark side.
11:23 <RazorSharpFang> The dark sides has cookies tho
11:23 <Alice> In my case, anger lead to depression, which lead to anger.
11:23 <Alice> It was vicious cycle.
11:23 <ConfusionRift> People too easy? (gets hit with a brick hard) Aah, joke, just a joke! I have being having those issues as of recent. Rather a something than a someone.
11:24 <Alice> Usually, it was either a case of "I messed up" or "Someone pissed me off" which lead to anger, either towards myself or towards them, but then I get depressed because I realize I lack control over my anger.
11:25 <Alice> Which then leads back to anger, because I'm angry that I can't control my depression either.
11:25 <ConfusionRift> When you encounter the same problems with the same people every single day, with no correction, no change, and no way to advert them, one would get just mad enough to show it.
11:25 <Alice> Which results in a vicious cycle, resulting in a mental meltdown.
11:25 <Alice> And then I just take it out on the nearest solid object as a form of self punishment.
11:25 <Alice> Most of the time, I usually just come out with a few small cuts here and there, because hitting stuff can cause scrapes depending on the surface.
11:25 <Alice> But in two separate cases, I went a bit too far.
11:26 <Alice> First case was in response to me making a comment I shouldn't have made, in front of a professor. So I beat myself up over that. I ended up slamming my wrist into a cement support pillar three times, hard enough to turn much of my wrist black and blue for two weeks.
11:26 <Lumindia> I have obtained scrambed eggs
11:27 * Lumindia shares with ponies
11:27 <Lumindia> \o/
11:27 <Alice> The second case was in a later semester. I was suffering about 3 months of exhaustion from lack of sleep, I went into an exam without any sleep from the night prior, blanked, panicked, and had to leave.
11:27 <Alice> When I went to sit down and calm myself down, I found myself punching the bench so hard I broke my hand.
11:27 * ConfusionRift noms some of the scramble, and thankies Lumindia. :P
11:29 <Alice> Pretty sure the former incident is why my right wrist makes so much noise. It started after that.
11:30 <Alice> And the latter incident probably only made it worse. That force has to go somewhere.
11:34 * ConfusionRift nods. "When someone breaks something, it tends to leave their mark in some way."
11:35 <Alice> Mmmhmm. That said, like I mentioned, it doesn't hurt. I'm also under the impression that whatever I did is keeping carpal tunnel away.
11:36 <Alice> I've been typing for nearly 24 years, now, and I don't have any signs of carpal tunnel. And yet, I know people who've been typing for a quarter of that time, and they developed extreme symptoms of carpal tunnel.
11:39 <Alice> Mmm.
11:39 <Alice> I don't think the zombie apocalypse involved zombie tropical storms.
11:40 <ConfusionRift> Zombie sharknadoes.
11:41 <Alice> Basically, Tropical Storm Paulette didn't dissipate completely, and managed to reach a region that allowed it to re-invigorate itself.
11:46 <ConfusionRift> Ooooh... ... ...zombie sharknado.
11:47 <Lumindia> but no
11:47 <Lumindia> D:
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11:56 <Alice> There ya go Spitfire, fresh air, view to the outdoors. Enjoy.
11:56 * Alice watches a chipmunk walk up to the screen door and agitate the hell out of Spitfire.
11:57 <Alice> I actually can't tell if Spitfire's enjoying the breeze, the clean air, or the smells in the air.
11:57 <Alice> But he gravitates towards any open window or door to the outdoors that he can find.
11:58 <Alice> It sounds like typical cat behavior, going to a window or door to look outside, and such.
11:58 <Alice> But he generally only goes up to the doors or windows when they're open to let a breeze or fresh air in.
11:59 <ConfusionRift> "It seems you have retained your mortality. Which means you are vulnerable to Death." | Well... yeah. As opposed to being dead, which doesn't make me as vulnerable. | "Correct... wait." | Uh-huh?! | "Forget my previous statement."
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12:01 <Alice> Also, can't say cats don't have a good sense of smell.
12:01 <Alice> Spitfire smells something outside. I can't smell it, but he certainly can.
12:01 <Alice> His nose is in the air, sniffing. His head's going back and forth trying to figure out where it's coming from.
12:02 <ConfusionRift> ...sorry. (fans the room)
12:03 <Alice> Oookay buddy, after class, I'm gonna clip your nails.
12:03 <Alice> He's getting caught on this chair as he walks around.
12:03 <Alice> Also, he seems to like this chair.
12:03 <Alice> He can sit next to me on it, while I'm doing my usual work.
12:04 * Alice checks orders. Ah, good, thermal pads will be here today, as well as a set of 10 extension cables for PWM fans.
12:05 <Finwe> I'm not a fan of PWM myself.
12:05 <Alice> And with my 3.5" to 5.25" bracket, I can move my 4TB drive to one of the 5.25" bays.
12:05 <Alice> ...
12:05 * Lumindia chews on Finwe's head
12:05 <Alice> Finwe, I'm going to stab you if you keep the puns up.
12:05 <Lumindia> I'll chew on them
12:05 <Lumindia> no need for stabbings
12:05 * Finwe counter-noms on Lumindia.
12:05 <Alice> Essentially, the plan for my PC is to clean up all the cable work, and resolve something.
12:06 <ConfusionRift> 3.5 to 5.25? Oooor the other way around?
12:06 <Finwe> Well, you know what they say, "Keep the puns up!"
12:06 <Finwe> Or was it thumbs?
12:06 <Alice> It's a mount to put the drive in a 5.25" bay.
12:06 <Alice> Rather than use the internal hard drive bay.
12:06 <Alice> I can remove said bay, which would free up a lot of space for cables.
12:06 <ConfusionRift> I know. Have been looking at them, but not going to. I think 6 drives is enough.
12:07 <Alice> Oh, this isn't that multi-drive bay thing. This is just a mount for a 3.5" platter drive, so I can get rid of the internal 3.5" drive bay.
12:07 <Alice> Which takes up an ungodly amount of space.
12:08 * ConfusionRift whispers. "What you said earlier it made it seem like you could stuff a 5.25 drive into a 3.5 spot, is all." :P
12:08 <Alice> Oh, heh.
12:08 <Alice> Then I would have said 5.25 to 3.5
12:08 <Alice> Which would be impossible.
12:08 <Alice> Usually, when you do a conversion from one size to another, you put the original size first, then the new size.
12:09 <ConfusionRift> But yeah, not the multi drive rack, but rather a single 5.25 slot adapter to install a 3.5 drive.
12:09 <Alice> Mm.
12:09 <Alice> I'd rather not install the 6-slot bay in my primary PC. Too many cables.
12:09 <Alice> Need two power cables, and six SATA cables.
12:09 <ConfusionRift> If you aren't gonna do a RAID, not much of a point.
12:10 <Alice> Mmhmm.
12:10 <Alice> I will however, move the extra drives(Besides the 4TB) to the server machine, though.
12:11 <ConfusionRift> Also, six sata power outlets + six sata data cables take so much space. I know because that's what I got here. Luckily, the case is big enough. Heck, with some ingenuity, I can add more. But no. Too much as is.
12:12 <Alice> Mmhmm.
12:12 <Alice> Honestly, I should have went for the SAS drive bay.
12:12 <Alice> But then I'd have to buy an SAS controller.
12:12 <Alice> And those are expensive.
12:12 <Alice> $400 minimum.
12:13 <ConfusionRift> Actually, some 2.5 adapters allow for two drives in one slot. But that WILL eventually fry a drive.
12:13 <ConfusionRift> Not to mention power consumption.
12:13 <Alice> Mmm.
12:14 <Alice> That's why I would prefer SAS.
12:14 <Alice> Besides fanout cables for that type of setup allowing one connector->6 drives, drive bays/backplanes usually support one-to-one connections, while allowing multiple drives.
12:15 <Alice> So you can, for example, use a single SAS cable to handle 3 to 6 drives.
12:15 <Alice> As an added benefit, you don't actually need any special drives, either. SAS handles SATA just fine, apparently.
12:20 <Alice> https://c1.neweggimages.com/ProductImageCompressAll1280/17-198-068-04.jpg This is a SATA-based drive bay, for example. See the issue?
12:21 <ConfusionRift> Hmmm...
12:22 <ConfusionRift> And to think I was looking at this some time ago.
12:22 <Alice> https://c1.neweggimages.com/ProductImageCompressAll1280/17-994-228-Z04.jpg Then you got this.
12:23 <Alice> It's called MiniSAS HD.
12:24 <ConfusionRift> Wait... are they the same capacity?
12:24 <Alice> Hmm?
12:24 <Alice> What do you mean?
12:25 <ConfusionRift> Oh sorry, kinda brain dead.
12:26 * Finwe zombifies ConfusionRift.
12:27 <Alice> https://images10.newegg.com/BizIntell/item/17/994/17-994-228/a9_120118.jpg Here's a better example of the connector, without it's cover.
12:28 <Alice> Basically, it's called Mini-SAS HD. Otherwise known as SFF-8613(For male, I presume) and SFF-8643 for female.
12:29 <Alice> It provides 12GBits/sec bandwidth, and due to how SAS works, it allows multiple drives to be connected over one cable through a backplane.
12:29 <ConfusionRift> That's what I was referring to earlier. They're both the same drive capacity. SATA would require individual data cables for each drive, while SAS requires very few.
12:29 <Alice> Ah, yeah.
12:29 <Alice> They're not the same protocol, but SAS controllers support SATA anyways.
12:29 <Alice> Different connectors as well.
12:29 <Lumindia> so I'm being told there's another M.2 form factor called NVMe
12:29 <Lumindia> '-'
12:29 <Alice> You have to use a special fanout cable, or an SAS->SATA cable, but it works.
12:29 <Alice> Lumindia, yeah.
12:30 <Alice> Erk, BRB.
12:30 <Lumindia> somethings omething faster thoroughput
12:30 <Lumindia> I"m not concerned with getting 420.69 GBit speeds
12:32 <Alice> It's not that much faster, but it is faster than SATA SSDs.
12:32 <Alice> My PC upstairs has an NVMe drive that gets 3,500 MBits/sec, compared to a SATA SSD, which tops out at around 500 or so.
12:32 <Alice> Maximum throughput of SATAIII is about 750MBytes/sec.
12:32 <ConfusionRift> Well, SATA is tied to its own factor. There's a limit to SATA.
12:33 <Lumindia> I doubt anything I'm going to be doing is goign to require 3.5 GBits/sec
12:33 <Alice> NVMe, meanwhile, is limited only by the bandwidth of the PCI Express version and the number of lanes used.
12:33 <Alice> Lumindia: If you use the system for gaming, it's a definite improvement.
12:33 <Alice> But the only thing is, it's expensive.
12:33 <Lumindia> yeah no, I"m on a budget
12:33 <Alice> 2TB cost me $330.
12:34 <Lumindia> M.2 SATA will do
12:34 <Alice> I... honestly think M.2 SATA costs about the same.
12:34 <Alice> Let me check.
12:35 <ConfusionRift> It... kinda is.
12:35 <Alice> Let's see..
12:36 <Alice> M.2 SATA Western Digital, 1TB, $139 CAD.
12:36 <Alice> Western Digital M.2 NVMe, 1TB, $149.
12:36 <Alice> It mostly depends on what the drive is for, and what it's made out of.
12:37 <Lumindia> I mean that's CAD
12:37 <Alice> Yeah, but it's a $10 difference between NVMe and SATAII.
12:37 <Alice> Er, sata III
12:38 <Alice> I just checked American Newegg.
12:38 <Alice> Amazingly, the NVMe drive is cheaper for the US than the SATA drive.
12:38 <Alice> At $104.99
12:38 <Alice> The SATA drive is $114.99
12:39 <Alice> Seriously, if you can find yourself an NVMe drive with the same capacity and form factor, go for NVMe, trust me.
12:39 <ConfusionRift> I'm sure that motherboard is NVMe compatible.
12:40 <Alice> What motherboard did you pick?
12:40 <Lumindia> I've linked the parts list in here three times in the past
12:40 <Lumindia> '-'
12:40 <Lumindia> https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Tq2vHB
12:40 <Lumindia> and asked for opinions on it
12:40 <Alice> I've been busy when you were talking.
12:40 <Alice> Either coding or in class, sorry.
12:41 <Lumindia> huh... actually I just saved some money swapping around the capacities of the M.2 and the 2.5"
12:42 <Alice> Yeah, the port supports PCIe.
12:42 <Alice> NVMe, I mean.
12:42 <Alice> So you can use an NVMe drive no problem. Even better, it's PCIe4 4x.
12:42 <Alice> So when newer NVMe drives come out, you can get even better performance.
12:42 <Alice> Hell, you're lucky.
12:42 <Alice> You got two M.2 ports that support NVMe.
12:43 <Lumindia> what else could go in an M.2 port?
12:43 <Alice> One's PCIe4, the other PCIe3. Not much of a difference between the two just yet, because there aren't many PCIe4 drives still, but..
12:43 <Lumindia> or is it pretty much exclusively for storage?
12:44 <Alice> They're primarily used for storage, right now. But I do believe they support other devices as well. It's basically just a mini PCIe port.
12:44 <Alice> The only other devices that I think use the M.2 connector are wireless cards and bluetooth cards. These are seen primarily in laptops.
12:45 <Lumindia> I mean, yeah, that makes sense, because of their small form factor
12:45 <Lumindia> thin and flat
12:46 <Alice> And even then, I'm not sure it's M.2 in those cases. I'd have to take a closer look to confirm.
12:46 <Alice> But it looks like it.
12:46 <Alice> But right now? M.2 is primarily used for storage.
12:47 <Lumindia> I'd believe that it's used for those purposes in laptops, though
12:50 <ConfusionRift> https://www.newegg.com/western-digital-blue-sn550-nvme-500gb/p/N82E16820250134?Description=m.2%20nvme%20500gb&cm_re=m.2_nvme%20500gb-_-20-250-134-_-Product (shrugs) It's the same price as the SATA3, just checked. Well, at least in Newegg.
12:50 <Lumindia> but yeah, swapped around the M.2 and the 2.5"
12:50 <Lumindia> saved like, 20 bucks
12:51 <Lumindia> by which I mean the M.2 is now the 1TB
12:51 <Lumindia> and the 2.5" is now the 500GB
12:51 <ConfusionRift> Oh...
12:51 <Lumindia> saved twenty dollars doing that
12:52 <Alice> Anyways, back to SAS. Yes, SAS supports SATA, but don't make the mistake of thinking it works the other way around. SAS supports SATA because it has a tunneling protocol.
12:54 <Alice> The main benefits of SAS over SATA really, is that it's designed for mass storage solutions.
12:54 <Alice> Like, hundreds of drives.
12:54 <ConfusionRift> Wait... mid tower...
12:55 <ConfusionRift> Oh duuur, yeah, should be enough for everything, including the standard cooler I think.
12:55 <Alice> Yeah.
12:56 <Alice> Mid-towers are the most common tower type.
12:56 <Alice> Personally, I want to get a larger case, rather than just re-wire my current one, but full towers are expensive and heavy.
12:56 <Alice> And as someone who regularly moves their PC downstairs so their mother can watch a game, I'd rather keep the weight down.
12:58 <Lumindia> also, again, I'm on a budget, and I don't think I could afford a larger case on this budget
12:58 <Lumindia> especially if I wanted to keep everything else
12:58 <Lumindia> other than more airflow, what advantages does a larger case offer?
12:58 <ConfusionRift> Nah. As long as you got a case that can fit all the components while keeping a good airflow, you really don't need more than that.
12:59 <ConfusionRift> It's just me and my thing is all.
12:59 <ConfusionRift> And trust me, it's a chore.
13:00 <Alice> Yeah, about all a larger case provides is more space, maybe better airflow, but the airflow thing is entirely dependent on the build of the case rather than it's size.
13:00 * ConfusionRift nods.
13:01 <Alice> Which is why I'm sticking with what I got. I can improve things by removing the internal hard drive bay, and placing the 4TB platter drive in one of the 5.25" slots.
13:01 <Alice> I'll have a lot more space and better airflow, because that bay sits directly behind a fan, and it's not lined up to let air flow through the bay.
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13:03 <ConfusionRift> Besides, if you want to change something, you got the space to do so.
13:04 * Alice blahs. He studied for Japanese lesson test today, but feels like he should have studied more. Plans to study and practice after lectures today.
13:04 <Alice> I also gotta get started on my Databases assignment. Fortunately, it's programming, so.. *Shrugs*
13:04 <Alice> Er, she*
13:04 * ConfusionRift shudders at the word.
13:04 <Alice> Second time in two months I've done that. o3o
13:04 <Alice> Databases?
13:04 * ConfusionRift hides.
13:05 * Lumindia boops Confusion, noms on head
13:05 <Lumindia> nom nom
13:05 <ConfusionRift> I have been found! (patpats Lumindia) :P
13:06 * Lumindia keeps chewing
13:06 <Lumindia> ' w'
13:06 <Alice> Meh.
13:06 <Alice> At least I studied.
13:07 <Alice> Just, I should have done more.
13:07 <Alice> Meh. It's just one lesson. It's not game-over yet.
13:07 <ConfusionRift> Actually, there's one thing I have been contemplating, but am unsure if going for it at some point. Might not even.
13:07 <Alice> So you hear that, amygdala? Piss off with your emotions. I'm not letting you take control.
13:07 <Alice> Oh?
13:08 * Alice goes to do one other thing that should help. As a precaution, really.
13:08 <ConfusionRift> Using NVMe SSD as a cache for a larger drive.
13:09 <ConfusionRift> More specifically, a platter drive.
13:09 <Alice> That is a valid idea.
13:10 <Alice> In fact, the idea's been considered, via software solutions implementing it. storeMI, for example.
13:10 <Alice> I don't quite know how it works, though, and I've never tried it.
13:10 <Alice> I just opted to skip the middle man and get a drive large enough to last me a while.
13:10 <Alice> Came with benefits I was not aware of, as well.
13:10 <Alice> Apparently, the larger the NVMe drive, the better the write performance.
13:11 <Alice> My old Samsung drive maxes out at 700MBytes/sec after Samsung's special write boosting technology fails to keep up.
13:11 <Alice> But this new drive I have? ~3000.
13:11 <Alice> And that's continual.
13:12 <Alice> My guess is, as the capacities increase, and more chips are added, performance goes up because the writes are spread across more chips.
13:14 <Alice> 'Course, you pay a premium for that amount of storage. Though, not as much as I expected.
13:14 <Alice> It was legitimately a 2x price increase over a 1tb drive. Unusual to see that.
13:14 <ConfusionRift> You see, I got three 6TB drives. The idea was to make a sorta NAS that was both stripped and redundant, which worked... for a while. The other way was to get a RAID controller, but with that and the thing and the other... I kinda abandoned the idea. Now I got two redundant drives, and one that's just... there. Mostly temp mass storage. So the plan was to use that cache idea to move all the games from the hybrid drive to a 6TB
13:14 <ConfusionRift> platter, and remove the old hybrid drive.
13:15 <Alice> https://www.newegg.ca/sabrent-4tb-rocket-q4/p/0D9-001Y-00054 Geezus hells though, it's not 2x from 2TB to 4TB, though.
13:16 <ConfusionRift> PCIe 4.0.
13:16 <Lumindia> .. yeah, I'm not EVER going to need 18 TB ot storage
13:17 <Alice> Give it a few decades.
13:17 <Alice> And yeah, I didn't notice the PCIe4, that's probably why the cost is up there too.
13:17 * ConfusionRift patpats Lumindia. "We know. That's just a me thing." :P
13:17 <ConfusionRift> Almost $200 for the 500GB. Nope!
13:18 <Lumindia> why do you need 18 TB of space?
13:18 <Lumindia> just 'because I can'?
13:18 <Lumindia> or do you do something like 4k video editing?
13:18 <Alice> Games be getting large.
13:19 <ConfusionRift> It was gonna be for a NAS project that was gonna be for just about every single piece of data I got on me. From old archives, to new personal documents and entertainment stuff.
13:20 <Alice> Yeah, for a NAS though, you'd want a multidrive bay, and either a hardware RAID, or put in Linux and use a software RAID solution like ZFS.
13:21 <Alice> The drive bay is more just an extra though, it's not super critical.
13:21 <Alice> Anyways, my lecture's coming up soon, so I'll be back in a little bit.
13:21 <ConfusionRift> See, it started to get more complicated. And at the time, I had cash issues.
13:21 <Alice> Yeah. I can see that.
13:22 <ConfusionRift> Actually, I should crash anyways. Catchu guys laters!
13:22 <Alice> Laters.
13:23 <ConfusionRift> Also, may we have a moment of silence for that one reviewer whose motherboard shorted and burned their $1400 SSD. (goes silent... then crashes asleep)
13:23 <Lumindia> ouch
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13:25 <ConfusionRift> Oh sorry, correction. It was their 1TB, which is still $400. So... still... LATERS! (crashes again with a BSOD)
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13:26 <Alice> Exam starts at 9:30 on the dot, so I got a bit of time.
13:26 <Alice> I'm about as prepared as I can be, too, given my study habits.
13:27 * Alice plans to get the next lesson done early this time.
13:28 * Alice puts on some music.
13:28 <Alice> Let's do everything to boost my mood. If I panic now..
13:29 * Alice puts on GaMetal.
13:50 <Alice> Okay, I panicked for no reason.
13:50 <Alice> It was a little hard, especially since the prof utilized kanji that we had not yet learned to write or understand the meaning of.
13:50 <Alice> But otherwise, I'm pretty sure I did okay.
13:50 <Alice> The kanji she did use was irrelevant anyways. There wasn't any questions regarding sentences involving the kanji we didn't know.
14:07 <Alice> Bah. Zoom, stop being stupid and let me type in Japanese already.
14:37 <Alice> Cat, what are you doing?
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14:45 * PrincessRainbows licks Lumindia and grabby hooves
14:46 * Lumindia licks back, hugs!
14:46 <Lumindia> o vo
14:46 <Lumindia> Rainbows is a good
14:48 * PrincessRainbows wags her tail. Pony hugs are nice
14:50 <Lumindia> <3
14:51 * PrincessRainbows still climbs up onto Lumindia for pony rides
14:53 * Lumindia wiggles, trots around the area. ' v'
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15:21 <PrincessRainbows> such a good horsey
15:22 * Finwe ruffles PrincessRainbows.
15:23 * PrincessRainbows also licks Finwe and offers hay
15:27 * PrincessRainbows tries to be a good little filly and offers everypony hay
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15:39 <Alice> What the flying hell am I even paying for with this class? Supposed to be a lecture going on right now, and the professor's not doing it. There was supposed to be one on Monday as well, but he skipped that too.
15:42 <Finwe> For epidemiological reasons, no doubt.
15:42 * Finwe hats on Angeline.
15:43 * Angeline whickers softly. She is still a sleepy-headed little filly.
15:45 * PrincessRainbows makes random filly noises at Angeline
15:45 <Alice> Right, so No Man's Sky just got another one hell of an update.
15:46 <Alice> Finwe: My classes are done online.
15:46 <Alice> There's no epidemiological reasons, unless he's dying.
15:46 <Alice> No, he even admitted that he's not going to bother with various lectures over the week. He's just gonna record lectures from other periods and upload them.
15:48 <Alice> Hah, they finally added the sandworm to NMS.
15:48 <Lumindia> HJonestly, with no man's sky, I don't care how many updates it get and how good people say it is... it had an AWFUL launch, and that's kind of ruined it in my eyes
15:48 <Finwe> Only to have himself unduely criticised by students despite his strenuous efforts. :3
15:48 <Finwe> *unduly
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15:56 <Alice> Lumindia, that's fair, but the developer has improved the game considerably, at no cost to the players since launch.
16:01 <RazorSharpFang> I'd say the dev on NMS has made good
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16:13 <Alice> Yeah, pretty much. Especially after the Multiplayer was finally implemented.
16:13 <Alice> And the sand worm is the final bit. That was the one things player wanted, and now we got it.
16:14 <RazorSharpFang> I'm off to sleep, good night.
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16:15 * PrincessRainbows drapes a blanket on RazorSharpFang
16:20 <Alice> I hear a cat outside.
16:31 <Alice> Okay, what does the school have to say about COVID now?
16:33 <Alice> Apparently, a record breaking 93 new cases of COVID-19 were reported in Ottawa. As a result, it looks like the Ottawa Medical Officer of Health has invoked a Class Section 22 order, which means...
16:34 <Alice> I am to self-isolate for 14 days, if I test positive(Haven't yet), show symptoms of COVID-19(Well ****), are in close contact with people who tested positive, waiting for results, or have reasonable grounds to think I may have COVID-19.
16:34 <Alice> And if I fail to do this, I can face up to $5000 in fines.
16:34 <Alice> Whelp, guess I'm not going anywhere at all, now.
16:35 <Alice> Meanwhile, at the university...
16:35 * PrincessRainbows is still a sleepy little filly, finds a horse to curl up on for a nap
16:35 <Alice> Last week, 1 person tested positive. As of this week, five people tested positive.
16:37 <Alice> So, basically, I'm stuck indoors permanently.
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17:21 <Alice> Hum, doing it again.
17:21 <Alice> It's been over 6 hours since I last ate.
17:40 * Angeline curls up for naptime.
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18:14 * Filly_Nightmares shiver
18:14 <Alice> Cold?
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20:12 * Ali glomps Dappled horse and snugs
20:12 * Dappled brushies an Ali horse.
20:12 * Dappled is finally awake enough to do stuff.
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20:16 * Ali brushies Dappled softly.
20:17 * Dappled pony purrs. Looks at that update trailer for NMS, might put in a few more hours on it when that hits.
20:28 * Dappled space pony.
20:32 * Ali thinks Dappled is not Apogee
20:32 * Ali can't spell that pono's name.
20:33 * Dappled has no idea what Ali is talking about. Equestria's space program has been in effect for over 1000 years. There must be many space ponies.
20:38 <Ali> Just cause Luna has been there for 1000 years doesn't mean that's a space program :P
20:38 <Dappled> Sure it does!
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21:33 <Dappled> Bout time.
21:34 * Dappled holds up his Unfezant.
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21:43 * Dappled checks to see if the Ali has Cobalion.
21:44 <Ali> The 3 legends? I don't care about them
21:44 * Dappled le gasps!
21:44 <Dappled> But all the pokes!
21:53 <Schism> Foooood. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EiL1jm2XcAA0ZHE?format=jpg&name=large
21:54 * Ali baps Schism with Stone Fire, Stone Jabu, and Stone Spirit
21:55 * Schism provides Ali with a single arrow.
21:55 <Ali> With Spirit being foolish, and Ruto's Letter Way of the Hero
21:55 * Ali gives Schism a Greg as payment
21:56 <Ali> Err wait, it was Stone Shadow Schism
21:56 <Ali> And you know the rules
21:56 <Ali> Stone Shadow ALWAYS finds a way to be Way of the Hero
21:58 * Ali also sits on Dappled and misses Shaymin.
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22:03 * Dappled shows Ali his Shaymin. He got his by sheer luck of buying a used copy of Pokemon White 2.
22:03 * Ali is super jelly
22:04 * Dappled has no idea if it's hacked. Considering that it was on the same catridge as shiny latias/latios, I'm inclined to believe hacked.
22:05 <Ali> Was it encountered at Lvl 30 or 50?
22:06 * Dappled can't tell. It says it travelled from Sinnoh.
22:07 <Ali> It should also say encountered at? I'm not sure, its been awhile
22:07 * Ali shrugs and flops
22:07 <Dappled> I'm looking at it's summary in US. Doesn't say encountered at.
22:08 <Dappled> Due to it's Mythic status, it's the only one I'll risk moving to home. the shiny legendaries can stay in 3ds land.
22:08 <Ali> Well home will reject a hacked though right?
22:09 <Dappled> Home will turn it into a bad egg and permantently take up a slot in your storage.
22:19 * Dappled also takes the time to glare at Crown Tundra. Gimme a list of returning legendaries so I know what to worry about.
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