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00:05 * Schism noms upon some macaroni salad~!
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00:12 <Schism> Old cryptozoology thread. https://twitter.com/DannyDutch/status/1313211950738870272
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06:57 <ConfusionRift> Hello everypony.
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07:12 * Ali grabs the ConfusionRift and curls into
07:13 * ConfusionRift huggles Ali.
07:14 <Ali> So lonely..
07:14 <ConfusionRift> Sure is. (sighs) Sure is.
07:14 <Ali> I had a setback in Megaman 9
07:15 <ConfusionRift> o_0
07:15 <Ali> Not enough recovery tanks
07:15 <ConfusionRift> Blarg.
07:15 <Ali> And it is making me do the castle again, and wasn't in the mood to do that entire thing again.
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07:20 <ConfusionRift> Yeah, that happens. And then doing the marathon again? Not exactly very enticing.
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07:24 <Ali> Nah, it would just be 9 again
07:25 <ConfusionRift> ...ah, right. It took inspiration from 3.
07:25 <ConfusionRift> Or 2, I don't remember. Either way, tanks are limited, again.
07:30 <Ali> No, they are available, but you need to buy them with screws
07:31 <Ali> And its highly based on 2 yes
07:31 <ConfusionRift> Still, sitting there on the same spot grinding for bolts is a bit meh.
07:35 <Ali> Well it sounds like the bigger flaw is that the main tracking weapon vs the capsule does piddly damage to it.
07:35 <Ali> Hornet Chaser only does 1 damage
07:36 <Ali> Yet its weakness is of all things Plug Ball, which has got to be the stupidest weakness weapon next to being weak to top spin.
07:37 <Ali> Its a space fighting arena, with a ground chasing weapon. Who thought that was the bright idea.
07:37 <Ali> And since its the capsule fight, its out of reach 80% of the time.
07:40 <ConfusionRift> I don't know why the classic series has the final bosses with the stupidest weaknesses, especially later on.
07:42 <Ali> Or just having the same final boss since Megaman 4
07:43 <Ali> Oh look its Wily Machine 10, I wonder what happens when I defeat this
07:43 <Ali> Oh look its ANOTHER capsule fight, yawn...
07:43 <Ali> Even 11 pulls this same gimmick
07:44 <Ali> A bit more interesting than the past few, but its still a stupid luck based fight.
07:47 * Ali snugs harder on the ConfusionRift
07:53 * ConfusionRift snugs Ali back.
08:00 <ConfusionRift> Unsure what to do now.
08:01 <Ali> I know how that goes
08:01 * Ali sads on ConfusionRift
08:03 <ConfusionRift> Blarg, Gato Roboto it iiiiiiissszzzz.
08:09 <ConfusionRift> Actually, a building game is up my alley right about now.
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08:18 * Ali stacks blocks on ConfusionRift nosie
08:21 * ConfusionRift balances Ali's blocks, then makes a house with them. :P
08:21 <Schism> Well, that was cute. "There is no game: Wrong Dimension" is a nice little story.
08:22 * Ali glomps Schism and drags into snugs with Rifty
08:22 * ConfusionRift nods.
08:22 <ConfusionRift> Not a very long game, but still good.
08:23 * Schism snugs the Ali right back. And giggles. "Honestly, neither was Portal, nor many such adventure games. Just because it's short, doesn't mean it's bad -- a story that doesn't overplay its hand and simply comes to a decent conclusion in a timely manner is good in itself."
08:25 * Schism offers ConfusionRift some Crunchy-Crunch Cereal! It's a cereal that's both crunchy, and melt-in-your-mouth, at the same time!
08:26 * ConfusionRift boops Schism with a Ninecraft pickaxe. :P
08:26 * Schism uses it to commit murder.
08:31 <Schism> One wonders what Mr. Glitch's evil plan originally was... but at the same time, it's kind of obvious from context.
08:36 <Schism> ... that's... aaaa why are they looking at that colour at night gah! https://reallifecomics.com/index.php
08:37 <Schism> Oh wait, that's not a window, that's a TV.
08:46 <Schism> Hm. Guess I know what the next RLC is going to be. XD;
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09:00 <ConfusionRift> Got so tired so sudden.
09:03 <ConfusionRift> Schism: You have no idea of the number of people who ask me to change the color of a paint they ordered long ago, because it doesn't look as nice as they thought in their lighting.
09:03 * Schism eyes ConfusionRift. "I work for an online shoe retailer."
09:03 <ConfusionRift> Oh, right.
09:05 <Schism> Better yet, it doesn't look the same way they saw it on their monitors, because they had it set to Night mode or whatever other low-eyestrain filter they had on at the time.
09:06 <Schism> That's when they're not simply ordering shoes on their phones, of course.
09:06 <ConfusionRift> Or they thought they were smaller, so they ordered size 14s, instead of 9s.
09:07 <Schism> Sizing, I can understand. Shoe sizes are defined by a cabal of demons summoned into this world back in the 1920s who decided, in unison, that not one of them would produce products to a market standardization.
09:08 <Schism> This also applies to jeans and bras.
09:09 * ConfusionRift sighs. "Yep. It's all a mess, because someone didn't check right, or was unlucky because a brand decided to be the butt of the bunch."
09:09 <Schism> Paint, meanwhile, exists in at least four spectra at once, and when Pantone is the least objectionable of the lot, you know that something is terribly wrong.
09:11 <Schism> Admittedly, I swear, if this job turns me into an artistic wonk I'm going to take out my aggression on the world with nuclear explosives.
09:11 <ConfusionRift> I'll help send them ICBMs.
09:12 <Schism> It is also wedding season.
09:12 <ConfusionRift> Oh no...
09:12 <Schism> Oh yes.
09:13 <Schism> I had a wedding design group ask me for a bulk rate on no fewer than 2,700 shoes.
09:13 <Schism> Pairs, mind you. This is rather significantly above my pay grade.
09:14 * Schism sighs, and just buries her head. "This weekend was not long enough. And now I need to sleep but I'm too tightly-wound."
09:14 <ConfusionRift> Wedding season... the heck is that? I mean, I would wed within both our agreement, not because everyone's doing it at the time. That just makes it super inconvenient.
09:15 <Schism> Start of spring, end of fall. Either way it's a timeframe where we get all manner of shoe requests for weddings.
09:17 * ConfusionRift has never been to an actual wedding. At least not a super big one.
09:17 <Schism> Well, most of the requests aren't super big. Shoes for bride, groom, brides, grooms, bridesmaides, groomsmen, etc, usually in the realm of 25ish people.
09:18 <ConfusionRift> 2700... are they gonna dress everyone exactly the same? As in, guest included?
09:19 <ConfusionRift> Then again... (sighs) I know people who would.
09:19 <Schism> They were an alteration team and reseller, I believe.
09:19 <ConfusionRift> Ooooh. that's different.
09:19 <Schism> As they are actually putting in the effort to make such modifications, well.
09:20 <ConfusionRift> A shop that specializes on that, basically.
09:20 <Schism> Precisely.
09:21 * ConfusionRift sighs. "I hate when people show up looking for things trying to make major repairs, remodeling, and specialty tasks."
09:22 <ConfusionRift> I tells me how (bleep) someone works when they're looking for bundles of the cheapest stuff for major repairs for their business.
09:23 <ConfusionRift> It's like going to Goodwill or Savers to look for a rewiring kit.
09:24 <ConfusionRift> Or driving through the desert looking for stray sets of spare tires.
09:26 <ConfusionRift> Nope. Not diving on this again. I'm at home, relaxing, out of harms way.
09:30 * ConfusionRift hears whispering. "Graaayyyy." Grabs whatever that was and chokes it. "Don't. REMIND ME!"
09:35 <Schism> I want a grey colour of grey.
09:36 * ConfusionRift stares at Schism with glowing red eyes. 0_0
09:37 * Schism looks at ConfusionRift's eyes. "Now, see, that is *entirely* the wrong shade of grey."
09:37 * Schism provides Rifty with some coffee to take the edge off the murder.
09:38 * ConfusionRift sips some of it.
09:38 <Schism> It is maple coffee, brewed in a French press and served with two creams and two sugars.
09:41 <ConfusionRift> Let's do a bit of an experiment. Not sure if Paint or some other free software that you might have can do it. See if you can save that comic strip, monochromize it, and tell me if the difference on that previously green spludge is more or less impacting.
09:43 <Schism> That doesn't make any sense. A monochrome variant would simply register the contrast or brightness of the hue instead of defining the hue itself, which while useful in and of itself doesn't really work in context.
09:44 <ConfusionRift> I meant to turn it into black and white.
09:44 <Schism> Especially in the context of a comic strip which doesn't display the hues accurately in context with the rest of the room. :p
09:45 <ConfusionRift> Okay, maybe this isn't working.
09:45 <Schism> Oh. The shade is... like 10 points lighter.
09:45 <Schism> Sorry, I'm also kind of out of it, and should get more sleep. Just a little more, though.
09:46 <ConfusionRift> The idea was to demonstrate how hues can tell you a vast of difference with more minimal changes, whereas in the case of grays (with is not hue and more just shades of the same) the impact is more minimal to a person's point of view/
09:48 <ConfusionRift> It's very problematic, especially when someone is viewing a shade of... a form of gray by a contrast that is different to the surface in which said gray is being sampled.
09:49 <Schism> Let's see how this comic changes in PBrush when I set it to black-and-white. ... yup!
09:50 <ConfusionRift> For example, they gray that a customer tells me to make is the same as the one already made. But because when they held the swatch it looked different to where I'm putting the paint sample in, everything is questionable now.
09:50 <Schism> That didn't work, but.
09:50 <Schism> ConfusionRift, oh, I wasn't arguing _that_ point.
09:50 <ConfusionRift> ...eh?
09:52 <Schism> I don't think we were ever arguing here. I agree, a material in the field can have a vast array of differentiations based on things such as which way a customer looks at it after the fact, compared to how they look at it before.
09:53 <Schism> Also, the phase of the moon, the wattage of a lightbulb tucked away in a corner, and how much nicotine has been caked on that wall before the customer painted it.
09:54 <Schism> And of course the exact composition of the additives in your own paint jars.
09:54 <ConfusionRift> Sorry. the other point I was kinda trying to also bring in is that grays, when too close of a shade, will not contrast is heavily as an actual color or hue.
09:54 <Schism> Ah, true.
09:55 <ConfusionRift> The WORST part is when working with it for too long, they all sorta start to blend in together, making it harder to differentiate.
09:55 <ConfusionRift> Then again, that could be said about most very light colors.
09:56 <Schism> Eggshell!
09:56 <ConfusionRift> Which looks similar to antique white. -_-
09:57 <Schism> Or Ivory!
09:57 <ConfusionRift> Or light navajo.
09:57 <ConfusionRift> Yes, color matching by eye sucks.
09:57 <Schism> Though at least Ecru is a very basic light grey without any brown in it.
09:59 <ConfusionRift> Less brown, and more of a greenish hue.
09:59 <ConfusionRift> And after staring at the same color and something similar for a long time, they start to look similar.
10:00 <Schism> Wait, that's-- *frown* C2B280? I felt hta twas more neutral than that.
10:00 <Schism> that was*
10:01 <Schism> More yellowish, but even so. Ecru seemed rather neutral to me.
10:01 <ConfusionRift> See?!
10:01 <Schism> Okay, _now_ I get where you're coming from. How do you know my blue is the same as your blue, et cetera.
10:02 <Schism> And the difficulties in distinguishing various hues and features of those colours.
10:02 <ConfusionRift> And the other issue is, if you use Google images, you will see that every brand has a different color, with the exact same name and classification.
10:04 <Schism> I was rather annoyed at this company providing shoes in fanciful colours, but now I suppose I have to applaud them using unique designations for each, even if their saffron is less than ideal.
10:04 <Schism> Way too dark orange.
10:05 <Schism> Here's magenta, by the way. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a7/MagentaIcon.png
10:06 <ConfusionRift> Yep, those are magentas.
10:06 * Schism flailyhooves, "And none of them are REAAAAAAL!"
10:07 <ConfusionRift> Yeah. It normally ends up being purple or pink.
10:07 <Finwe> Hmm, Dimensional Schism mentioned in Farscape.
10:07 <Schism> Jokes aside, ConfusionRift, allow me to please present you with a modern-day horror image.
10:08 <ConfusionRift> Hmm? o_0
10:08 <Schism> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eko5cfAU8AAjzzw?format=jpg&name=large
10:08 <ConfusionRift> ...
10:09 <Schism> We're old now.
10:09 * ConfusionRift rubs his forehead. "We're old indeed."
10:09 <Schism> Finwe: I have my nom de plume for a reason. :p
10:10 <Schism> But it's none of those reasons mentioned here, of course. I like the idea that my very existence might split a church in twain.
10:12 <Schism> Plus, a disconnect between past and present, a possible allusion to my dysphoria, things like that. I'm of two minds about it.
10:13 <ConfusionRift> It reminds me of a news post picture that a friend sent me about this "the deadly AR-15" thing. I didn't know what the problem was, till he told me to look carefully at the projectile coming out of the barrel. It was the whole cartridge, being propelled out the barrel. In other words, a horrible photoshop by someone who doesn't know how any of this works.
10:15 <Schism> The whole c-- okay, I don't even *like* guns, but I'm offended by that on general principles.
10:16 * ConfusionRift shrugs.
10:17 * ConfusionRift laughs.
10:17 <Schism> We might be on opposite sides where _that_ debate comes in (though I suspect we are both in favour of education), but for heavens' sake!
10:17 <ConfusionRift> That stock picture of the woman supposedly soldering some electronic part, while holding the soldering pen by the heatshield.
10:18 <ConfusionRift> I was reminded of that out of nowhere.
10:19 <Schism> I hate you for reminding me that sheerest stupidity is universal, it simply comes out in different ways.
10:19 <ConfusionRift> Found it! https://makezine.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/Screen-Shot-2016-03-08-at-9.15.01-AM.png
10:20 <ConfusionRift> The hell is she soldering? :P
10:20 * ConfusionRift laughs hysterically.
10:22 <Schism> oh my god.
10:23 <Schism> Just... looking at that. @_@
10:23 <Schism> It makes my hand feel like I need to soak it in aloe and grease.
10:24 <ConfusionRift> Actually, looking at the image again. It looks like someone orangutan'ed the heatsink and CPU. Or did they throw PCB shavings on the board, to make it look like a carpenter job?
10:24 <ConfusionRift> Probably Verge at it again.
10:24 <Schism> I am now going to bed, by the way, giggling all the way. https://twitter.com/theogrin/status/1318110370003865606
10:27 <Cepheid> https://imgur.com/gallery/NWh9CBy Hey Schism, before ye go to bed.
10:28 <Cepheid> ConfusionRift: I can confirm, grabbing a soldering gun by the heatshield is a BAD IDEA.
10:28 <Cepheid> Er, soldering iron*
10:29 * ConfusionRift also knows that feeling.
10:29 <Cepheid> When I was 13 years old, I used one for something.
10:29 <Cepheid> I dropped it onto the floor by accident. Reached for it.
10:29 <Cepheid> Doesn't take much more information to figure out what I did.
10:29 <ConfusionRift> Ooooh noh.
10:29 <Schism> Cepheid: I don't get it. Also, hah. I've done that. Also gripped an Erlenmeyer flask from atop a bunsen burner.
10:30 <Schism> Without, of course, the appropriate glove. Those were some fun days.
10:31 <Cepheid> Heh.
10:32 <Cepheid> As for the comic: Girl mentions Tim has a nice top. Tim's boyfriend comments he has a name. Think about it for a few seconds.
10:32 <ConfusionRift> We have all burned ourselves in some way. By sheer stupidity, or by complete accident. We learn from these mistakes, and learn from them... till you get tired and end up doing it again. :P
10:32 <Schism> Oh, hah.
10:33 <Schism> Not sure why I didn't grok that immediately. I'm kind of entwined in an adjacent community, so.
10:33 <Cepheid> It caught me off guard too.
10:33 <Cepheid> It wasn't until I read the comics that I figured it out.
10:34 <ConfusionRift> I tend to hang with the wrong crowd at work, so it was a pretty low curve ball for me. :P
10:34 <Cepheid> Stupid medication. My stomach is churning.
10:35 <Schism> I'm still going to bed, having expected profanity, and having received it.
10:35 <ConfusionRift> Alrighty, have a good one.
10:37 <Cepheid> Good night.
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10:39 <ConfusionRift> Gaming karma at its finest. https://twitter.com/ChibiSkeven/status/1317981906210750464
10:39 <Cepheid> Heh.
10:48 <ConfusionRift> Wait... so that's how it works in Prodeus. The model is rendered fully in 3D, and then it's filtered to look pixelated. Actually, that explains the top "spriting". I overestimated what was going on.
10:49 <Cepheid> Yep.
10:50 <Cepheid> I figured it out almost immediately, plus, I also had the benefit of following the developer and seeing a few of their tweets about techniques they used.
10:50 <Cepheid> https://imgur.com/gallery/d4MHZ97 Hell of a story.
10:59 <ConfusionRift> What's odd is that article that says that it's supposedly a myth. It ended up being the case of "we're not sure".
10:59 <ConfusionRift> But I wouldn't be surprised if it was the case.
10:59 <Cepheid> Neither would I.
11:00 <Cepheid> I mean, just the other day, they detonated an unexploded bomb in a river, I forget where.
11:00 <Cepheid> So unexploded ordinance being utilized as everyday things is entirely probable.
11:01 <RazorSharpFang> The more things explode the more productive you are
11:03 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Morning Discussion #2089 [ https://tinyurl.com/yx9dhyez ]
11:05 * Cepheid watches Spitfire walk over and stand on her arm. "Can I help you?"
11:05 <Cepheid> https://imgur.com/gallery/BvR9BkY This is going to be our future.
11:06 <ConfusionRift> Apparently, one of the LoTR movies was filmed on a bomb test site, somewhere in... New Zealand? In any case, they were warned about still active explosives that could be there, yet cannot be cleared out with any conventional means. So walking around and seeing the stabilizing fins of a bomb or missile can really get that adrenaline running.
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11:07 <ConfusionRift> Cepheid: Oddly enough... yeah.
11:10 <Cepheid> I feel like that would have been an extreme OSHA violation.
11:11 <ConfusionRift> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wKXwNNrWwQ
11:11 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.
11:11 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Return of the King Behind Scenes: Filming Amidst Land Mines
11:12 <Cepheid> Oh, I don't doubt it happened.
11:12 <Cepheid> But I'm pretty sure it'd also be one of those "Yeah, this isn't even remotely safe or legal."
11:13 * ConfusionRift nods.
11:13 <ConfusionRift> Legal? Eeeh. Safe? Heck no, nah, not at all.
11:14 <Cepheid> I'm pretty sure OSHA would have a lot to say.
11:14 <ConfusionRift> Oh yeeeaaah.
11:15 <ConfusionRift> Maybe they did. Who knows, really.
11:18 * Cepheid sighs. "Well, that's another nail in the coffin for nVidia for me."
11:19 <Cepheid> It's going to take them until mid-November to get their latest driver to work with Linux 5.9. They haven't said why.
11:19 <Cepheid> This is among all the other crap they've been up to, especially around Linux, such as using legal loopholes.
11:20 <Cepheid> The current theory is that the abuse of a legal loophole is actually the reason for the delay. Because the loophole they abused was closed when it was discovered that they were abusing it.
11:21 <Cepheid> Basically, what they tried to do, was get around the issue of the Linux kernel declaring itself "tainted" by the introduction of a proprietary, out-of-tree module.
11:21 <Cepheid> They did this by creating a new "driver" that provided a GPL-compliant interface, but itself interfaced with an external, proprietary driver in a way that the kernel could not detect.
11:22 <Cepheid> Thus, avoiding the kernel tainting issue caused by using out-of-tree drivers.
11:24 <Cepheid> Why is this such a big deal? The tainted flag indicates to kernel developers that modules they have no control over are loaded into the kernel, and thus, any crashes that may involve those modules, may have been the result of those modules, and there's nothing they can do about it.
11:26 * ConfusionRift shrugs.
11:27 <Cepheid> Working around this is considered a big "Yeah, don't do this."
11:28 <ConfusionRift> Of course. You're trying to fool the system into thinking that core modules have not being modified or conducted by another piece of software.
11:29 <Cepheid> More or less.
11:29 <Cepheid> But they've also been causing other problems again.
11:29 <Cepheid> I imagine it won't be long before we see another "Linux Torvalds flipping nVidia the bird" situation.
11:32 <Cepheid> Hmm. Hackers have stolen the Watch Dogs: Legion source code and are threatening Ubisoft, and installed ransomware on Crytek's hardware.
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11:35 <ConfusionRift> ...ooh.
12:03 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: A Celebration of 10 Years of Pony - ...What Friendship Could Be [ https://tinyurl.com/y5243lpc ]
12:08 <Cepheid> So, what are you up to this morning?
12:10 <ConfusionRift> "Please, zoom in." | Okay. | "Zoom in more." | Alright? | "Zoom more!" | Okay, okay! | "Zoooo- wait. What's this pixelated mess?" | The same video. | "No clarity?" | The best we can do at this resolution. | "Huh. Always looks so clear in the movies."
12:10 <ConfusionRift> Watching videos, just relaxing before going to sleep soon.
12:14 <Cepheid> Waiting for a test to start here. In the interim, just refreshing vocab every few minutes, and reading on the Mario Wiki,
12:18 <RazorSharpFang> I'm currently waiting for the NYSE and the NASDAQ to open. :3
12:26 <Cepheid> https://imgur.com/gallery/iWUeCn8
12:27 <RazorSharpFang> I hear that this sort of playing is really important for development.
12:27 <Cepheid> Pretty much.
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13:59 <DerpyBot> *derp*
14:03 <ADragonDreaming> derp
14:03 <ADragonDreaming> !muffin
14:03 <DerpyBot> Muffins!! You have any? :3
14:03 <ADragonDreaming> yes
14:03 <DerpyBot> Thank you!!
14:03 * DerpyBot glomps ADragonDreaming
14:19 <Cepheid> That could have gone better. Could have gone worse though.
14:19 <Cepheid> Couldn't do two questions. One, my brain went blank, the other, I ran out of time.
14:37 <Cepheid> Heh.
14:37 <Cepheid> My prof is talking about the KFC during Christmas time.
14:37 <Cepheid> She says it's apparently because Colonel Sanders looks like Santa Clause, among other reasons
14:45 <ADragonDreaming> nah, he's Mark Twain
15:26 <Cepheid> Guh. Tired.
15:26 <Cepheid> I don't even know WHY. I slept 8 hours. Of course, I kind of went to bed far earlier than intended because I was tired yesterday as well.
15:27 <Cepheid> I think today I'm just gonna... stay awake, and sleep when I'm just too tired to stay awake.
15:29 <ADragonDreaming> body might be trying to catch up.
15:30 <Cepheid> Seems reasonable. I have been getting less sleep due to either having to wake up, or waking up far too early for various reasons.
15:30 <Finwe> 00:05 #EquestriaDaily: < Cepheid> https://imgur.com/gallery/JixcsR2 Finwe, there is something wrong with your country.
15:31 <Finwe> How so?
15:31 <Cepheid> Your people can apparently survive overdosing on meth. :P
15:31 <Cepheid> And then do crazy stuff.
15:32 <Finwe> The World War was somewhat of a special case.
15:33 <Cepheid> Fair enough.
15:33 <Cepheid> Hum. Reading on The Cutting Room Floor gives insight into how some games handled their stuff, and one of them...
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15:38 <Cepheid> It appears Super Metroid and subsequent 2D metroid games, all used two separate sloped tiles, and that was it. One that's 1x1 tiles in dimension, representing a 45 degree slope. One that's 2x1 tiles in dimension, representing a 22.5 degree slope.
15:38 <Cepheid> I suppose that makes sense.
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15:51 <Cepheid> Huh. Metroid Fusion had hidden objects that would move around rooms, or sit in one spot. They acted as gathering points for X of various types.
15:54 <ADragonDreaming> with those two sloped tiles you can do basically any slope you need in a 2D environment - just rotate and flip.
15:57 <Cepheid> Mmm.
15:57 <Cepheid> Also, apparently Crocomire was meant to appear in Metroid Zero Mission.
16:43 <Cepheid> Gonna lay down here, and not do anything but read until my body is so exhausted it's falling asleep of it's own accord instead of relying on drugs.
16:43 <Cepheid> Once I reach that point, I'm going to take the seroquel and ensure a loooooong sleep.
16:44 <Cepheid> However, before I do that, I need to take a moment and collect MHWorld rewards.
16:44 <ADragonDreaming> Aye, I hopped on and grabbed them on break, earlier.
16:44 * Schism flops on. "Death is inevitable. Nod. Get treat."
16:45 <ADragonDreaming> With strange aeons, even death may die.
16:45 <Schism> Heh. Mostly referring to OOTS here.
16:45 <ADragonDreaming> I read that every... 2 years or so.
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16:47 <Schism> A fair enough time-frame, but he's been updating much more frequently of late.
16:47 <ADragonDreaming> Aye, more I just like to binge.
16:47 <Cepheid> There. Now I have enough tickets for the armor.
16:49 <ADragonDreaming> Aye! Now we just need to rush to MR 5* and fight blackveil.
16:50 <Cepheid> Yeah, that probably won't happen as fast as we'd like. :P
16:50 <Cepheid> But, we have the tickets at least, so we can afford to make the armor whenever.
16:50 <ADragonDreaming> AYe.
16:51 <ADragonDreaming> Actually, we could probably make it happen, just by mainlining the main questline until we get to MR 5*, then doing the event quest.
16:51 <Cepheid> True.
16:51 <Cepheid> But I think Blackveil also appears as a normal quest, rather than an event one.
16:51 <ADragonDreaming> He does
16:52 <ADragonDreaming> but who knows at what point! While the event quest is available the moment you unlock the 5* quests.
16:52 <Cepheid> 5*, apparently.
16:53 <Cepheid> Hum, I wonder what the highest HP monster is currently.
16:53 <ADragonDreaming> Kulve Taroth?
16:53 <Cepheid> Prolly, but that's a special case.
16:54 <Cepheid> In terms of basic quests..
16:54 <Cepheid> The highest I see for single-player is 37100 HP.
16:54 <ADragonDreaming> Ancient Leshen has 67500 last I checked.
16:55 <Cepheid> For EVENT...
16:55 <Cepheid> Kulve's at 54,000..
16:55 <Cepheid> Alatreon, 52,500.
16:55 <Cepheid> Fatalis is 66,000.
16:56 <Cepheid> A Velkhana at 57,600..
16:57 <Cepheid> Yeah, Ancient Leshen is 67,500.
16:58 <Cepheid> At 4 players, Fatalis has a staggering 171,600 HP.
16:58 <ADragonDreaming> Incidentally, I wound up using up all my King's Armor Spheres.
16:59 <ADragonDreaming> Needed upgrade points jump dramatically.
16:59 <Cepheid> Yep.
17:00 <Cepheid> I have like, 20 of the danged things. Haven't used a single one yet, though. I'm so packed on all the others, I'm pretty sure I have a few hundred thousand points worth of armorspheres.
17:01 <ADragonDreaming> Yeah, when you use the auto-thing it prioritizes highest point-value first, and then calculates down the line to meet the exact point value.
17:02 <Cepheid> Mine haven't been used because I've had no armors low enough that require 800 points.
17:02 <ADragonDreaming> Yep. They only got used for me recently, upgrading Master Rank armor past level 3, and upgrading my augmented Uragaan.
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17:07 <Cepheid> Hum, even then. For me, the king spheres haven't been touched. For some reason, it chooses to use the earlier ones first.
17:09 * Cepheid shrugs.
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17:37 <Cepheid> Okay, that's creepy.
17:38 <Cepheid> I'm hearing a cat scratching at my bedroom door, but when I go to look, there's no cat.
17:38 <Cepheid> Oh either side of the door.
17:59 <ADragonDreaming> ghost cat!
18:07 <Cepheid> My thoughts exactly.
18:09 <Cepheid> I am suspecting the reason I feel like garbage is not because I'm trying to catch up on sleep right now, but because utilizing a tranquilizer to sleep outside of the currently defined "sleeping period" does not result in any sort of restful sleep in the same sense as sleeping at said dfined sleeping period.
18:17 <ADragonDreaming> aye
18:37 <Cepheid> Sometimes I wonder if it'd be economical for me to get a dehydrator and just make my own beef jerkey and other types of jerky.
18:44 <Cepheid> https://i.redd.it/7czsn902e1u51.jpg So true.
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19:21 <Starlight_Glimmer> Good evening Ali.
19:22 <Ali> Eh, its afternoon here, but unicorn is feeling tired.
19:22 <Starlight_Glimmer> Evening, like I said. You need to switch to the only real timezone. ;)
19:24 <Starlight_Glimmer> Which is GMT+1 btw. DST is heresy.
19:35 <Starlight_Glimmer> Also have a book horse
19:36 <Starlight_Glimmer> !link https://derpibooru.org/images/2470242
19:36 <DerpyBot> Twilight says Discord stole all her pictures
19:41 <Cepheid> Oops. I locked Tizzy in the spare room downstairs by mistake.
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20:43 * Ali flops over Starlight_Glimmer. "And that's Megaman 9 down, two to go."
20:44 <Starlight_Glimmer> I don't believe I've ever played a single game of that series.
20:45 <Starlight_Glimmer> I'm still looking forward to Cyberpunk 2077 though. Well I'm really only looking forward to Cyberpunk.
20:45 <Starlight_Glimmer> Gaming has been a mess the last couple of years.
20:45 <Ali> Interesting
20:45 <Ali> Megaman is a classic if you played it back in the NES days
20:46 <Starlight_Glimmer> Oh I know the brand.
20:46 <Ali> Though the original game is pretty hard
20:46 <Starlight_Glimmer> Just never played any title I believe
20:46 <Ali> 2 is known for well, its a good game along with kick ass songs
20:46 <Starlight_Glimmer> If I did I can't remember
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20:46 <Ali> Understandable
20:46 <Ali> I just love the classic series
20:46 <Ali> was shocked they made Megaman 11
20:47 <Starlight_Glimmer> Oh didn't that flop hard?
20:48 <Ali> No, you're thinking of Mighty No 9
20:48 <Starlight_Glimmer> Oh sorry :P
20:54 <Schism> Arghl. It's an interesting day. By which I mean I hate it.
21:01 <Schism> If you're going to play the classic Megaman games, start with 3. While 2 had great music, it was with 3 that the series really hit its stride.
21:02 <Schism> 1 was... _okay_, but it had the feel of the really early NES games.
21:03 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Makenshi: Emotional Pony Music: Friends Can Change The World VIP [Future Bass] [ https://tinyurl.com/y6s8rbcc ]
21:04 * Cepheid flops.
21:07 * Schism flops off back to work.
21:18 * PinkieShy boops Schism and trots off with the giggles
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22:03 <Golden> Oh dearly
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23:16 <Cepheid> The amount of snarkiness in the article for Super Mario Advance 4: Super Mario Bros. 3 is so thick you can cut through it with a dull plastic knife.
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23:17 <ADragonDreaming> It's a snarkticle?
23:18 <Cepheid> https://tcrf.net/Super_Mario_Advance_4:_Super_Mario_Bros._3
23:19 <Cepheid> Apparently, the remake for the GBA retains a lot of sprites and tiles from the SNES version, which itself retained a lot of tiles and sprites from the NES version. A majority of all of these unused in any game, and yet, updated.
23:26 <ADragonDreaming> Interesting.
23:26 <ADragonDreaming> "Clean up your tilesets, nintendo!
23:27 * Ali polishes ADragonDreaming
23:27 * ADragonDreaming shines
23:27 <ADragonDreaming> bright like a diamon
23:32 <ADragonDreaming> btw if you have need of a gem just go do SOS flare high-ranks, so far I've gotten the Gold Wyverian Ticket for melding the gems 100% in rewards.
23:44 <Lumindia> but I am the Luminous Diamond
23:44 <Lumindia> it's in my name
23:45 <Schism> That TCRF article couldn't possibly have been written by someone from Europe.
23:46 * Schism passes out some ham, swiss and egg sandwiches on English muffins to those in the chat who have displayed a mild hunger.
23:50 * Ali boops Schism, she beat Megaman 9 now
23:51 * Schism carefully dangles 8.5 next to Ali.
23:51 * Ali baps Megaman and Bass away, unplayable
23:51 <Schism> The SNES version, mind.
23:56 * Lumindia passes out small bags of Cheetos
23:58 <Ali> Schism, its still stupid hard
23:58 <Ali> The basic enemies can eat a charged shot and laugh.
23:59 <Schism> I know. But that's half the fun... ah well. Back to work for this foxgirl. *whimper*
23:59 <Ali> Fun? I'm not sure if enemeies that tank shots is fun.
23:59 <Ali> I'd rather deal with Megaman 9's Ultra hard mode than Megaman and Bass
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