00:17 <Lumindia> kek
01:57 <Schism> Night's almost done, for which I'm duly thankful because it has been back-to-back the whole time.
02:03 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Nightly Discussion #2324 [ https://tinyurl.com/yy5hyxsk ]
02:04 * Ali calls Schism to annoy them about things on sale and stuff like that~
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02:09 <PinkieShy> You know.. HL and HL2 would make a good movie if they were turned into a movie
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02:11 * PinkieShy boops Ali
02:11 * Ali squeaks
02:12 <PinkieShy> Awww :3
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03:03 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Makenshi: Pony Party Music Remix: GrazySmash & MEQA - Hoof Shaker (Butterflight Remix) [Electro House] [ https://tinyurl.com/y4vj7bn9 ]
03:12 <Lumindia> https://i.imgur.com/5OA29OB.jpg Let's go, E5S clear!
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03:14 <Pony|46628> Nikita I
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03:19 <Pony|51732> who are you
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04:18 <Schism> Cepheid: https://twitter.com/GarbageDotNet/status/1319892130811162624
04:51 <Schism> Ali: Behold, Gleemax.
04:52 <Ali> That's a twitter link and I still dont' know what Twitter likes to be screwy
04:52 <Schism> Well, the Twitter link is about cat.
04:52 <Schism> https://gatherer.wizards.com/pages/card/details.aspx?name=Gleemax
04:59 <Ali> Um how do you cast that?
05:02 <Schism> Usually, by playing a Mox Lotus, first.
05:05 <Schism> Alternately, play Tinker.
05:08 <Schism> Hah. Rancor was a pretty awesome enchantment, wasn't it?
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05:11 <Schism> aaaaaaa. https://gatherer.wizards.com/pages/card/details.aspx?name=Replenish
05:37 <Cepheid> Freakin' FINALLY. 10 hours of sleep.
05:37 <Cepheid> That cat's all "What the hell are you doing?", Schism.
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05:49 <Schism> Heh.
05:54 * Cepheid types on laptop while Spitfire does his usual kneading routine.
05:57 <Schism> He does love your arm.
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06:20 * Ali kneads on Schism
06:25 <Cepheid> It's not kneading of affection. It's something else.
06:25 <Cepheid> Even the vet's not sure what's going on.
06:27 <Cepheid> I'll be on my laptop, tablet, phone or PC, and he'll basically stand there, with the two front paws on my arm, kneading constantly for several minutes. Meanwhile, he's staring at my hand.
06:27 <Cepheid> After a few minutes of this, he then tries to get the hind legs on my arm. Given how much he weighs and the squishiness of human flesh, this goes about as well as one would expect.
06:28 <Cepheid> Finally, after a few minutes of *THAT*, he tries biting at my wrist. Especially if I start to move the arm.
06:30 <Schism> Perhaps he just thinks your arm's a toy or something.
06:33 * Ali missed the kitties hugging her arm... stupid adult cats not being as cute as them as kittens.
06:37 <Cepheid> https://imgur.com/gallery/L8SxCTU
06:38 <Cepheid> Schism: Given behavior, I'm inclined to think he sees the arm as a cat, or something akin to it. The biting at the wrist is similar to a mother cat biting at the nape of a kitten to pick it up or to hold it still when it's misbehaving.
06:39 <Cepheid> That is, he bites down, then holds until I stop moving.
06:39 <Cepheid> Or doing whatever it is he doesn't want me doing.
06:45 * Cepheid graaghs. Has weird dry, cracked painful lips thing going on.
06:47 <Cepheid> https://imgur.com/gallery/IYEUCes
06:49 <Schism> Gotta love the moebius.
07:02 <Cepheid> Ye know, I thought I was just imagining things, but now I'm sure I'm not. This logitech wireless mouse I have, the optics on it are misaligned.
07:08 <Schism> Eugh. @_@
07:28 * Cepheid purchases a bunch of small games with exploration and/or puzzles. In particular, Omensight, The Room series, and Journey. Would go pick up Amnesia, but worries it might be too much for mother. Will check later.
07:29 <Schism> It does have a very dark aspect to it. I can get you a spoiler for an event which happens about 30 minutes into the game which might colour the perception.
07:29 <Schism> One which might make it a bit much for her.
07:33 <Cepheid> I'm good.
07:34 * Schism mms.
08:37 <Cepheid> Not even up for five hours yet, and my stomach is growling at me.
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08:39 <ConfusionRift> Hello everypony.
08:41 <Finwe> Lt Cdr ConfusionRift.
08:41 <Finwe> o7
08:42 <ConfusionRift> RAdm. Finwe. (salutes)
08:45 <Cepheid> Hey Rifty.
08:45 <Cepheid> Schism, by the by, you must play Outer Wilds. And when you do, keep me apprised of your progress.
08:46 <Schism> At some point, almost certainly.
08:47 <Cepheid> Bleh. The environment must be dry as hell. First, my lips started cracking and such. Now my nose is feeling dry, and it's painful as well.
08:51 <Schism> Same. I'm going to be using up a tube of cherry lip balm in short order.
08:52 * Finwe noms on Ali's tail.
09:02 <ConfusionRift> I suppose the hailing has stopped.
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09:06 * Cepheid takes an icosahedron, subdivides it's faces, and projects the vertices onto a sphere.
09:07 * Cepheid does the same with an octahedron.
09:18 <Finwe> Are the bodies concentric?
09:20 <Finwe> Erm, except that does not lead to the most simple case, even if the projection rays originate from the common centre point.
09:24 <Finwe> The simplest case is where the projected image is empty.
09:25 <Cepheid> I'm mostly just forming geodesics.
09:26 <Cepheid> That said, I do wonder, Finwe.
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09:27 <Cepheid> Is it possible to construct a sphere using entirely equilateral triangles? Or is that impossible?
09:30 <Finwe> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/600-cell#/media/File:600-cell.gif
09:31 <Cepheid> Heh.
09:32 <Finwe> Cepheid: Icosahedron is the best approximation of a spehere you can get that way, I think.
09:32 <Cepheid> Yes, looks that way.
09:33 <Finwe> I recall you can get arbitrarily close by using pentagons and hexagons.
09:34 <Cepheid> Mmm.
09:34 <Finwe> Like a classical leather football is sewn.
09:34 <Schism> Or of course the arrangement of atoms in a buckministerfullerene molecule.
09:34 <Finwe> It's called a Goldberg polyhedron.
09:34 * Cepheid investigates polyhedra.
09:36 * Cepheid is mostly investigating for the purposes of creating something fun to experiment with.
09:38 <Cepheid> Constructing a sphere in 3D can be done in many ways, but they all come with their pros and cons involved.
09:40 <Cepheid> At least, when we're talking polygonal models.
09:40 <Finwe> If you have a metric defined, it can be constructed as { x | d(x,O) = C }, the set of all points equidistant to a given point.
09:41 <Cepheid> Yes, that works, but I forgot to mention that the sphere itself has to be decimated. That is, broken down into distinct triangles that approximate the original shape.
09:42 <Cepheid> Now, the simplest approach is to divide the sphere into N wedges around the polar axis. Then simply divide each wedge into M sections. You can then just use simple mathematics to find the points for the triangles of each section, and create the faces from that.
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09:43 <Cepheid> Simple enough. Fast. Good enough for many situations. But it breaks down in certain scenarios.
09:43 <Finwe> https://arxiv.org/pdf/math/9801088.pdf
09:44 <Cepheid> Yep. I actually know how to do it now, thanks to researching stuff.
09:44 <Cepheid> I'm just discussing the problems with the various approaches.
09:44 <Finwe> You know it's a good paper when Theorem 0.1 starts from a lattice in a complex Lorentz space.
09:46 <Cepheid> Basically, the above approach works for spheres that are untextured, unshaded. If you apply textures and shading, you'll see distortion across the surface of the sphere. Triangles at the poles will be smaller than the ones at the equator, so shading and texturing will appear more and more warped unless the texture work accounts for this warping.
09:47 <Cepheid> So, basically unusable with say, height maps.
09:47 <Cepheid> So you can't use it to create planetoids and such with mountains, rifts, and the like, using heightmaps.
09:48 <Cepheid> You want height maps? You need something more consistent across the entire surface. Equilateral triangles are your best bet.
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10:01 <Cepheid> Long story short, geodesics are your friend.
10:01 <Cepheid> Though, they only solve a part of the problem.
10:02 <Cepheid> As the sphere in question increases in size, you want to maintain some level of quality so that when the player approaches it, it doesn't appear all pointy or blocky.
10:03 <Cepheid> Off the top of my head, the two most well-known games that deal with this problem are No Man's Sky and Elite: Dangerous.
10:04 <Cepheid> Planets in the distance just appear as solid spheres with not much in the way of detail, outside of generated(?) textures that approximate the surface so that when you approach it, what you see is what you get on the surface, or close enough anyways.
10:04 <Cepheid> There's no height maps, for sanity reasons.
10:07 * Cepheid sighs, thinks about this. There's a lot of complicated issues involved.
10:11 * Cepheid gets a headache. No, seriously she has a headache now.
10:11 <Cepheid> This one came on weirdly. One moment, nothing. Next, sharp pain.
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10:22 <Cepheid> Finwe, what are your thoughts on the n-body problem?
10:25 <Finwe> A field for numerically inclined people. o3o
10:25 <Cepheid> Heh.
10:26 <Cepheid> It's an interesting problem for simulation purposes.
10:27 <Cepheid> Most times, games just simplify it by giving planets a circular orbit and ignoring gravity.
10:28 <Finwe> Kerbal used to reduce everything to two-body systems.
10:28 <Cepheid> Yeah, that's the approach that comes to mind.
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10:28 <Finwe> They've been at least striving to correct the model.
10:29 <Cepheid> Very hard to do, though.
10:29 <Finwe> Some years ago, they were hiring people to implement numerical methods for solving n-body problems.
10:30 <Finwe> I don't really know whether they've made any progress, though.
10:35 <Cepheid> Mmm.
10:49 <RazorSharpFang> Space is hard
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10:52 <Pony|47467> Hello and that's it
10:53 <Cepheid> I assume that a simple solution would have decent results, in my case. No need for numerical integration.
10:54 <RazorSharpFang> Isn't the n-body-problem one of those problems where the tiniest shift causes huge swings out?
10:55 <Cepheid> Yeah, it's a chaotic problem.
10:55 <Cepheid> So, small minute changes would result in incredibly large effects in the long-term.
10:55 <RazorSharpFang> As it happens, I believe that the world is fundamentally non-deterministic, so that's fine with me.
10:55 <Pony|47467> who are you rarity
10:55 <Cepheid> In this case, I'm expecting the time scale overall to be hours, not years, millenia and the like.
10:57 <Pony|47467> this already exists a werewolf
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11:00 <Pony|43586> being
11:01 <Heartbreak> You're a werewolf?
11:02 <Heartbreak> This pony... Let us make them a -real- pony...
11:02 <Heartbreak> And put them in a dress! ^.^
11:03 <Pony|43586> wisp
11:04 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Morning Discussion #2097 [ https://tinyurl.com/y5qjhdox ]
11:04 <Pony|43586> so what's the big deal
11:07 <Heartbreak> You're in a dress.
11:07 <Pony|43586> so what
11:14 <Finwe> Mr Heartbreak.
11:14 * Finwe doffs his hat.
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11:15 <Pony|43586> what are you doing here
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11:18 <Pony|43586> когда ты нашего канала
11:19 <Finwe> наверное никогда
11:19 <ArchPegasusMichael> Google Translate sucks. Use DeepL.
11:21 <Pony|43586> well thank you but I won't
11:22 <Pony|43586> like 6
11:29 * Lumindia_ peers in
11:29 * Lumindia_ boops everyone
11:29 <Lumindia_> o wo
11:32 * Lumindia_ does a boop on Schism. https://i.imgur.com/5OA29OB.jpg
11:32 <Lumindia_> E5S clear last night
11:32 * ConfusionRift boops Lumindia_.
11:33 * Lumindia_ snugs a ConfusionRift
11:33 <Pony|43586> it's scary
11:33 * ConfusionRift huggles Lumindia_.
11:33 <ConfusionRift> And it's cold. It hailed not long ago.
11:36 <Finwe> Constant rain and 11°C. :/
11:43 <Pony|43586> daughter of course Yes
12:04 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Fanfiction: The Unintended Psychological Consequences of Inter-Dimensional Travel [ https://tinyurl.com/yywjazss ]
12:05 <Pony|43586> well thank you cool
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12:40 * Finwe hats on Filly_Nightmares.
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15:09 * Cepheid flops back in.
15:18 <Heartbreak> I'm going to boop Moongoodgirl.
15:18 <Heartbreak> *boops Moongoodgirl*
15:19 * Heartbreak boops
15:25 <Finwe> Mr Heartbreak, Miss Moongoodgirl.
15:25 * Finwe doffs his hat.
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17:04 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Makenshi: "Background Pony" Music: Lavender - Gilded (feat. Namii) [Dubstep] [ https://tinyurl.com/y5w3x4xs ]
17:58 <Schism> Crunch goes the programmers. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ElWXIH1WMAA4pUi?format=jpg&name=large
17:59 <Cepheid> And hilariously, they said there'd be no crunch for the game.
18:00 <Schism> This is CD Projekt Red, I am totally surprised, HOW IN THE WORLD could such an INFLUENTIAL development group force their employees to work themselves to the bone.
18:01 <Cepheid> I sometimes wonder why I even want to get into gamedev, if forced overtime is what awaits me.
18:02 <Cepheid> Maybe it's because, unlike most of these people, I can actually afford to do it. I have no life outside of gaming and coding.
18:03 <Schism> Plus, that desire to make something that's hopefully not as ephemeral...
18:04 * Schism smirks at something else. "The Palantir were abused by Sauron in order to not only lie to one person outright, but to gaslight another, showing him a selective series of events. This is an appropriate name for a data collection and analytical agency."
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18:09 <Cepheid> https://imgur.com/gallery/lHWeVin Pretty much how the whole world feels right now.
18:11 <Schism> Pffff. https://twitter.com/UrsulaV/status/1321140714269454336
18:12 <Lumindia_> does the cup of hot chocolate have anything to do with it?
18:12 <Schism> Cepheid: In response to that -- https://twitter.com/scalzi/status/1321138445352374273
18:13 <Cepheid> Nah. That's just the poster paying their taxes in alternative currency instead of the cattax.
18:19 <Cepheid> In 2008, a pair of parents lost custody of their kid in New Zealand, because they named her "Talula Does the Hula From Hawaii"
18:20 <Schism> Sounds like a country intent on being proactive about mental health.
18:21 <Cepheid> Yep.
18:24 <Schism> Hah. So an anti-trans group from London tried to set up shop in Ireland. The Irish are having none of it, not least because they tried to pretend they were a local organization when only a quarter of their listed members reside in Ireland, the organization is listed in London, et cetera..
18:25 <Cepheid> Heh.
18:27 <Cepheid> Someone's having a field day using a botnet to hammer imgur.
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18:33 <Cepheid> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QL3H7CUJMDU
18:33 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.
18:33 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about asdfmovie13
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18:36 * Lumindia_ pets Ali
18:36 * Ali grumblycakes at Lumindia_
18:37 <Schism> You've got too many legs!
18:37 <Lumindia_> why grumbly?
18:37 * Lumindia_ offers Ali a cupcake
18:37 <Ali> I don't think i'll ever understand why this thing keeps disconnecting like this.
18:37 <Lumindia_> have a cupcake. 'w'
18:39 * Schism asks Cepheid, "What's a nose...?"
18:41 <Cepheid> I... don't know.
18:41 <Schism> I stole your wallet!
18:42 <Schism> "Well, I stole your face!"
18:43 * Schism flops off to work.
18:47 <Cepheid> Meanwhile, for me, it's sleep medication time.
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19:04 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Trixie Day - Halfway Reminder! [ https://tinyurl.com/yyh7cyld ]
19:11 <Cepheid> ...
19:11 <Cepheid> Are you kidding me, Capreit?
19:11 <Cepheid> It's 3 in the afternoon, I'm about to go to sleep, and you start running all the lawnmowers, leaf blowers, and critter munchers at full-blast, all at once?
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19:58 <Schism> why, company
19:58 <Schism> why. why would you make an enormous change in shipping processes right before the end of October. this is not the time to do so.
20:04 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Drawfriend Stuff (Pony Art Gallery) #3502 [ https://tinyurl.com/yxlu5v3e ]
22:04 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Community Soapbox - Democracy in Equestria, Rockhoof Apocalypse, and More! [ https://tinyurl.com/y45su5ck ]
22:29 <Lumindia_> A
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