Log archive of EquestriaDaily for Monday, 2020-11-02

00:08 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Princess Trixie Sparkle 2 - Episode 1 Trailer [ https://tinyurl.com/y4ooc9vx ]

00:28 *** Joins: Golden (uid250033@Pony-sd90bk.tooting.irccloud.com)

00:38 <Heartbreak> Ilike turtles.

01:08 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: TrotCon Online 2: Snow Day Welcomes Devyn Dalton, Brian Doe, Cole Howard, & Katrina Salisbury [ https://tinyurl.com/y6383eeo ]

01:08 <ADragonDreaming> I like trains.

01:22 * Golden flops.

02:08 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Nightly Discussion #2330 [ https://tinyurl.com/y3rnyz9n ]

03:38 * Filly_Nightmares sits on Golden!

03:39 * Golden pats.

03:40 *** Quits: Angeline (Scootaloo@I.Will.Fly.Higher) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds)

03:40 * Filly_Nightmares sneezies at Golden!

03:41 <Golden> Hm?

04:02 * Filly_Nightmares purrs and snugglies into Golden belly

04:04 <Golden> Hehe

04:05 *** Joins: SRQ (SRQ@Pony-ipvgi3.ed.shawcable.net)

04:06 * SRQ boops Dappled

04:06 <SRQ> hey you old friendos

04:06 <SRQ> add Gladi#0451 on discord :p

04:06 * Dappled nodnods. Is a horse.

04:06 <SRQ> how's the chat been

04:06 <Dappled> It has been here.

04:07 <SRQ> well I'm not gonna be here for long

04:07 <SRQ> wanted to know if anyone had seen Dekko

04:07 <SRQ> had a YouTube account, dekko de pony

04:07 <SRQ> they made a song I really liked and now it's gone

04:08 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Makenshi: Discord & Srewball Music Cover: StableTwoStallion - Daddy Discord (feat. HiddenFaithy) (Covering Sand Josieph) [Gothic Metal] [ https://tinyurl.com/yy9bxy6c ]

04:08 * SRQ boops Finwe hugs Heartbreak nibbles on FruitNibbler sits on poseyshy and licks Schism

04:09 <SRQ> you know as much as I don't come here anymore

04:09 <SRQ> I do owe a lot to this place

04:09 <SRQ> without this place I wouldn't be the person I am now, nor would I have been rescued from an extremely toxic group in 2013 by your kindness

04:09 <SRQ> so you should all keep that in mind. you've had a positive effect on things

04:09 <SRQ> and now I run a fairly active kink based discord :p

04:10 * ADragonDreaming facefaults

04:10 <SRQ> very good

04:10 * SRQ licks Ali

04:11 * Ali flails

04:11 <SRQ> really I learned a lot about what a good community should look like through this place

04:11 <SRQ> in building that discord I tried to make the EQD experience But Even Better. welcoming and supportive.

04:12 <Ali> I'm just really squirrely about Discord

04:13 <Ali> I just don't feel all that comfortable on it

04:13 * Ali sits on the SRQ instead

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04:14 <ADragonDreaming> no, I did not ask for second window, client.

04:14 *** Quits: TormentedDragon (ADra@Pony-fa4991.20dc.fhnt.0406.2601.IP) (Quit: Hard work pays off in the future, laziness pays off now)

04:14 * SRQ enjoys sat

04:14 <SRQ> That's fine that's up to you, whatev.

04:14 <SRQ> Be comfy.

04:14 <ADragonDreaming> Harrumph. Anyway. Ali: interface issues?

04:15 <Ali> The interface is a bit offputting, even with it set to a more friendly IRC mode

04:16 <Ali> I don't know, I guess I'm just comfortable with after about 10 years of using the same IRC client

04:16 <SRQ> it's not irc visually no

04:16 <Ali> If there could be a way to have discord and IRC clients work together, that would help.

04:16 <SRQ> the reason I use it is I don't really care about the fact it's centralized (I don't much care that they're spying on my rp logs or whatever) and also easy image sharing

04:16 <SRQ> There is!

04:16 <SRQ> There's bots that can pass messages between.

04:17 <Ali> That's a bit silly, having to use bots to post

04:17 <SRQ> well you're having two protocols at once of course you're gonna need a middle man :p

04:18 <SRQ> Filly_Nightmares: is a cutie

04:18 * Filly_Nightmares purr

04:18 * Ali shrugs, is about as in depth tech smart as a dumpsterfire.

04:18 * Filly_Nightmares snugglies into Papa SRQ and chew on Ali face

04:19 <SRQ> :3

04:19 * SRQ cuddlebat

04:19 * Filly_Nightmares purrs and melt happily

04:20 <Colgate> I use bitlbee for discord, which lets me use my irc client to talk to discord

04:20 <Colgate> but you have to host that yourself

04:21 <Filly_Nightmares> O4o

04:21 <SRQ> well I take my leave now

04:21 <SRQ> feel free to add me on discord if'n anyone wnats

04:21 <SRQ> Gladi#0451 is me

04:21 * Filly_Nightmares wigglewaggles

04:21 <SRQ> Surry is cute

04:22 * Filly_Nightmares melt floof

04:22 * SRQ wagglewiggles

04:22 * Filly_Nightmares giggles

04:22 * SRQ gaggles

04:22 * Filly_Nightmares goes o6o

04:22 * SRQ goes 070

04:22 * Filly_Nightmares eeeeeeee

04:22 * SRQ yyyyyyyy

04:22 * Filly_Nightmares uses Papa SRQ as bed and Ali as blankie!

04:22 <SRQ> I am quite soft.

04:23 <SRQ> Once upon a time all that would get mods mad at us!

04:23 * Filly_Nightmares sticks her cold hoovesies into warms!

04:23 <Filly_Nightmares> O6o

04:23 <Filly_Nightmares> yay!

04:23 <SRQ> You either get banned, or live long enough to become unbannable.

04:23 * Filly_Nightmares goes o3o

04:24 * Ali headtilts

04:25 * Filly_Nightmares nibble on Ali

04:26 <ADragonDreaming> wait, did you also go by Gladiolus?

04:27 *** Quits: SRQ (SRQ@Pony-ipvgi3.ed.shawcable.net) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds)

04:28 <Ali> Yes that was them ADragonDreaming

04:29 <ADragonDreaming> aha.

04:30 * Dappled runs around the underworld.

04:36 * Ali throws the guide into the lava!

04:38 * Dappled is immediately ended by the flesh.

04:42 * Ali noms on the Dappled ear

04:43 <Ali> So Schism with adjusted times, you think our bot friend will come an hour early or think they've given up?

05:22 * Dappled ear flaps at the Ali horse.

05:22 * Ali lays on the Dappled and snugs, is lonely pono

05:22 * Dappled gives hugs.

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05:35 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ConfusionRift

05:35 <ConfusionRift> Hello everypony.

05:36 * ConfusionRift snuggles Ali. :P

05:39 * Ali snugs on the ConfusionRift

05:39 <ConfusionRift> Oh, SHC2020. Heck yeah! Oh... this video is like 2 hours... let's goooo!!!

05:40 * Ali headtilts

05:40 <ConfusionRift> Sonic Hacking Contest 2020.

05:40 * Dappled also headtilts.

05:40 <Dappled> As in fast hacking or hacking sonic games.

05:42 <ConfusionRift> "Hacking" Sonic games. As in, mods or hacks of some of the original games, to completely new games based on said games.

05:42 * Dappled hopes they fixed 06

05:44 <ConfusionRift> There's the '06 Project. Basically, they were trying to port what they could to the Unity engine. So, faster loading times, less glitching, better level structures, etc. done within Unity, ditching that messy Havoc engine.

05:44 <Dappled> Woo!

05:44 <ConfusionRift> And someone was trying to port the game using Generations as their base.

05:45 <ConfusionRift> Same with Unleashed.

05:46 <Dappled> Clearly they need to use the creation engine and port it to skyrim.

05:46 <Dappled> Wait, we are wanting less glitches, not more.

05:46 * ConfusionRift barfs oil.

05:46 <ConfusionRift> :P

05:47 <ConfusionRift> Yes, let's port a game a motion and kinetic game to the slowest and slumber engine ever.

05:54 <Ali> Or give it controls via the kinnect~

05:54 <ConfusionRift> Wouldn't be surprised if someone tried to.

05:54 <ConfusionRift> I mean... someone ported Doom to work on a pregnancy tester.

05:54 <Ali> Cause you know, the kinnect was a GREAT idea..

05:55 <ConfusionRift> Yep, as great as using infrared for motion controls.

05:56 <Ali> At least the Wii controls were somewhat decent

05:56 <Ali> Kinnect would lose track of the players.

05:56 <Dappled> Were they? WERE THEY?

05:56 * Dappled didn't own a wii.

05:56 * Ali owned a Wii, and one of the very early ones too

05:57 <ConfusionRift> They worked well for what they were.

05:59 <ConfusionRift> Most of the issues were interference, batteries, motion bar placement, batteries, some games having pointless motions, batteries, batteries, and the occasional offscreening.

05:59 <Ali> And the wrist strap

05:59 <Ali> But then again

05:59 <ConfusionRift> I hated those motion games, so... pfffttt.

06:00 <Ali> If you swing the remote THAT hard while playing a soft motion game, then you already had problems

06:00 <ConfusionRift> ^

06:00 <Ali> ConfusionRift, Mario Party 8 had the bestworst minigame ever

06:00 <Ali> Shake the soda can

06:00 <ConfusionRift> Mario Party, that is all. :P

06:00 <Dappled> Clearly the console with the best gimmick is the Sega Dreamcast.

06:00 * Dappled loved the VMU.

06:01 <ConfusionRift> Mario Party has done nothing but feature controller torture tests.

06:01 <Heartbreak> ... I need to start booping Dapple.

06:01 <Ali> Ah, I still remember my second degree burns from that game

06:01 * Heartbreak forces Finwe to start using gender neutral terms.

06:01 <ConfusionRift> I also remember hand blisters.

06:01 * Heartbreak starts booping Dappled.

06:01 * Dappled doesn't get sound notifications so only occassionally pops his head int.

06:02 * Dappled falls over.

06:02 <Heartbreak> Here is an apple, Dapple.

06:02 <ConfusionRift> And destroying both my N64 controller joysticks, forcing me to buy new controllers.

06:02 *** Quits: cabbage (cabbage@Pony-c37bqa.dynamic.sonic.net) (Connection closed)

06:02 <ConfusionRift> Because the joysticks themselves were not readily available.

06:03 * Dappled happy horse noises and eats.

06:03 <Heartbreak> I drilled a hole through my hoof.

06:04 <Heartbreak> A game that I enjoyed? Psychonauts.

06:04 <ConfusionRift> See? That's what Mario Party does to ponies!

06:04 <Heartbreak> Then there was that one game with Yoshi that was on the ... n64 I think?

06:04 <ConfusionRift> It's a good game, Psychonauts. The final stage though....

06:04 * Dappled never played.

06:04 <ConfusionRift> Yoshi Story?

06:04 <Heartbreak> You moved blocks around and made combos.

06:04 <Heartbreak> Yeah.

06:05 <Heartbreak> Oh gawds... The Meat Circus...

06:06 <Heartbreak> That'll give you nightmares, a few broken controllers/keyboards, and a few new psychological issues in which Raz will have to jump into your mind to resolve...

06:11 <ConfusionRift> Yep!

06:12 * ConfusionRift boops Ali with one of his original controllers with Wiimote joystick replacement.

06:18 <ConfusionRift> Maybe it's just me, or does the original Aquatic Ruin Zone song give a different kind of vibe from the Genesis port? https://youtu.be/2EEU0UlaNTo?t=5511

06:25 <ConfusionRift> Oh no... Sonic VS Chat is back.

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06:40 * Heartbreak boops ConfusionRift.

06:40 * ConfusionRift reboops Heartbreak. :P

06:41 * Heartbreak boopity-boops ConfusionRift.

06:42 <Heartbreak> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/352682023204421632/770680627116376084/haha_wut1.png

06:43 * ConfusionRift laughs.

06:43 <ConfusionRift> Heartbreak, never seen you this happy. :P

06:45 <Heartbreak> Oh, right. I wouldn't say that -that- is ... 'happy'.

06:45 <Heartbreak> I would say that is 'clinging to sanity by a sliver of a thread.'

06:46 <ConfusionRift> Oh. I thought that was your "smile for the camrea" face.

06:46 <ConfusionRift> *camera

06:47 <Heartbreak> Nah, -that- smile has more... teeth.

06:52 <ConfusionRift> Yep, I getcha. That was basically my face for the whole week, despite me being stuck in here.

07:37 <ConfusionRift> What the...? They ported Doom into Sonic Mania. The maniacs! :P

07:40 <Ali> I see botboy hasn't made an appearance today

07:40 <ConfusionRift> Which is good... I think. They probably got the hint. Or they're waiting for later.

07:41 <Ali> Well the last ban I put on them was a bit stronger than a typical ban

07:45 <Heartbreak> Who the fet is botboy?

07:45 <Ali> Someone on an russian IP that keeps coming back

07:53 <Heartbreak> Hmmmm.

07:59 <ConfusionRift> Okay, that's funny. One of the mod creators jumped in call with the one checking the entries, and they didn't know of one of the 1-ups.

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09:07 <Golden> Blep

09:08 <ConfusionRift> Blop.

09:09 <Golden> It feels like 5 am....

09:12 <ConfusionRift> Is it 6am? :P

09:12 <Golden> It's 2 am...

09:12 <ConfusionRift> Oooh.

09:13 <Golden> Yeh

09:13 <ConfusionRift> Well, that's my 2pm. But I'm a full night owl, so... yeah.

09:17 <Golden> It's even worse because day light savings just switched back last night

09:36 * Ali is glad DST is gone >.>

09:37 * ConfusionRift nods.

09:37 <Golden> Wish they stopped using it forever

09:40 <ConfusionRift> Same here.

09:41 <Ali> I never had to deal with DST up until like 15 years ago.  hated it every time it came around

09:41 <Ali> But anyway, energy level zero, must pass out now

09:41 *** Quits: Ali (Ali@Pony-n3j093.iplsin.sbcglobal.net) (Quit: Leaving)

09:41 <Golden> I mean it just ruins everyone's interal clocks.

09:43 <ConfusionRift> It really does. Not to mention, at this point, it doesn't have that much benefit.

09:48 * Cepheid awakens like a zombie.

09:56 <Golden> Indeed

10:00 <Cepheid> Man, the wind this morning is just nuts.

10:07 *** Quits: PinkieShy (coolm@Pony-ck81je.67-212-45-net.sccoast.net) (Connection closed)

10:10 <Heartbreak> Cepheid: Jet agrees with you about the wind being wild.

10:11 <Heartbreak> Golden: If you have insomnia you can't have an internal clock to be ruined.

10:11 <Cepheid> 72km/h gusts.

10:12 <Cepheid> Can confirm that statement.  If you have a sleeping disorder of some sort, DST tends to be less of a concern or issue.

10:12 * Heartbreak fuzzles Cepheid.

10:16 * Cepheid pets kitty. "How's my little four-legged fuzzy wombler doing?" <Cat> "... My name's Spitfire."

10:33 <Lumindia> hashire sore yo

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10:39 * Cepheid rocks on down to Zinogre avenue, and then takes it hig- Promptly gets electrocuted into carting.

10:40 <Cepheid> So, Rifty.

10:40 <Cepheid> You think Vaal Hazaak is a pain, right?

10:42 <ConfusionRift> Not exactly. It's the case of avoiding getting the effluvium effect, and have nulberries. Oh, and keep away from Girros.

10:45 <Cepheid> True.

10:45 <Cepheid> In any case...

10:45 <Cepheid> Blackveil's much more... interesting.

10:45 <Cepheid> You know the acid in the Rotten Vale, that burns like acid and hurts?

10:46 <ConfusionRift> Yep.

10:46 <Cepheid> Imagine, if you will, a monster that breathes spores, that burn just as badly as that acid, and every now and then, coats the area in spores that deal damage like that.

10:47 <Cepheid> And on top of that, it can't be negated in any way.

10:48 *** Joins: RazorSharpFang (RazorSharpF@Pony-50eecs.tpgi.com.au)

10:50 <Cepheid> https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=raspberry-pi-keyboard&num=1 ... Huh.

10:50 <Cepheid> They took a Raspberry Pi 4, upclocked it, and packaged it into a keyboard.

10:50 <Cepheid> Modern-day equivalent of a C64, I believe.

10:51 <RazorSharpFang> Nice.

10:52 <Lumindia> nifty

10:53 <Cepheid> Even better?

10:54 <Cepheid> Put a Commodore 64 emulator on it.

10:54 <Cepheid> Got yourself a modern-day commodore 64, quite literally.

10:54 <RazorSharpFang> I'm still sad that there's no proper windows for ARM

10:54 <Cepheid> WinRT is the closest we got to it, yeah.

10:55 <Cepheid> Though, aren't they trying to make Windows for ARM64?

10:55 <RazorSharpFang> Maybe. I just want C# WPF applications

10:55 <Cepheid> Hum.

10:55 <RazorSharpFang> GTKSharp just doesn't cut it.

10:56 <Cepheid> According to https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/uwp/porting/apps-on-arm, Windows 10 now runs on ARM64.

10:57 <RazorSharpFang> ... Hrmm, it doesn't mention WPF.

10:57 <Cepheid> Supports only 32-bit x86 applications, though.

10:57 <Cepheid> It says it supports 32-bit x86, so WPF is likely supported through the emulation layer.

10:58 <RazorSharpFang> Well, maybe C# WPF support for ARM64 will come later.

10:58 <Cepheid> Unfortunately, I cannot test for you.

10:58 <Cepheid> I lack ARM hardware, ARM64 especially.

10:58 <Cepheid> ... No, that's not entirely true.  I have some ARM hardware.

10:59 <Cepheid> As for WPF..

10:59 <Cepheid> I've considered the idea of investigating getting WPF and WinForms working under other OSes, but..

11:00 <Cepheid> Ah, here we are, RazorSharpFang.

11:00 <Cepheid> https://github.com/dotnet/wpf/blob/master/roadmap.md

11:00 <Cepheid> ARM64 support is coming next year, presumably.

11:00 <RazorSharpFang> I am still hoping that one day we will get WPF on Linux.

11:01 <Cepheid> That would be desirable, yes.

11:01 <RazorSharpFang> I am wondering how difficult it would be to write a translation later between WPF and GTK. Probably very.

11:02 <Cepheid> The core of the problem I find is less the difficulty of making a translation layer, and more the fact that there are multiple windowing APIs out there.

11:02 <Cepheid> GTK, QT, wxWidgets, and so on.

11:03 <Cepheid> And then there's the underlying windowing system.

11:03 <Cepheid> X versus Wayland, right now.

11:03 <RazorSharpFang> On Windows, you have UWP, WPF, WinForms, WinGDI+, DirectX

11:03 <Cepheid> Mm, there is that, yes.

11:04 <Cepheid> But they all rely on the same underlying OS API.  Meanwhile, under Linux, you have multiple different APIs to choose from.

11:04 <Cepheid> For Linux, you'd have to have an environment flag or something to choose which one should be used for WPF, WinForms, etc.

11:04 <RazorSharpFang> Actually, I think on Windows they may use different underlying OS APIs. Given that some have hardware accel and others do not.

11:05 <Cepheid> Mmm.  You're right, I hadn't considered that recent versions of Windows have Direct2D and such.

11:05 <Cepheid> Or whatever it's called.

11:05 <RazorSharpFang> Direct2D is accelerated on mordern windows yes

11:06 <RazorSharpFang> I think it only works on Win7+

11:06 <Cepheid> Mmhmm.

11:06 <RazorSharpFang> I think the original WinGDI was for Win95+

11:06 <Cepheid> Yep.

11:06 <RazorSharpFang> Just a tiny difference between those OSs

11:08 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Morning Discussion #2103 [ https://tinyurl.com/y4ugjpbv ]

11:08 <RazorSharpFang> That said. Our project is still using .Net Framework 3.5

11:08 <Cepheid> But yes, a translation layer is possible for mapping GDK to the Windows APIs used in WPF, WinForms and the like.  It'd be a monumental undertaking though.

11:08 <Cepheid> Same with QT, and wxWidgets.

11:09 <RazorSharpFang> I was thinking GTK because it's a reasonably lightweight one.

11:10 <Cepheid> Fortunately, it's probably not as difficult as it's made out to be on the grounds that WPF and WinForms take a relatively simple route to interfacing with the user interface API of Windows.

11:10 <Cepheid> I examined WPF and WinForms' code in the past on GitHub.  They make extensive use of P/Invoke.

11:11 <Cepheid> That is, they simply use the pre-existing non-C# code.

11:11 <RazorSharpFang> I dream of a day when you can simply use a #if windows to switch between WPF native and WPF-GTK

11:14 <Heartbreak> I dream of a day when the idea of a swath of cloth covering your face isn't a topic that you need to consult a political figure about...

11:15 <RazorSharpFang> Everything is bad actually. :3

11:15 <Heartbreak> Cepheid: What do you dream of?

11:15 <Cepheid> A more likely implementation would involve an interface that provides a common interface to expected OS-level functions, and instantiate different classes based on OS and environment variables(To choose between GTK, QT, etc).

11:16 <Cepheid> Heartbreak:  An empty voi-  Oh, wait, you mean in the form of "What I want for the future."

11:16 <Cepheid> Cats.  More cats.

11:19 <Heartbreak> I think that we should have a cat as world leader.

11:24 <Cepheid> Hey cat.  How's it catting?

11:24 * Cepheid watches Spitfire wander underneath leg rest of arm chair.

11:34 * Lumindia rolls around

11:40 <Cepheid> Language is interesting.

11:41 <Cepheid> I read a Japanese sentence.  "This is my dad, he <unknown> for an American Company."  I don't remember the unknown word(It was a verb), but I can infer from the rest, that it must be "worked for" or "works for" based on the conjugation of the verb.

11:42 <Cepheid> Go and check the vocabulary section, and lo and behold, I was right.

11:42 <RazorSharpFang> 仕事 ? Or something else?

11:46 <Cepheid> 勤める actually. "to work for"

11:47 <Lumindia> Reminder: all of you are lovely and I hope you all have wonderful days today! ♥

11:48 <Cepheid> I have a quiz today.  Even though it's just a quiz, my mind is freaking the hell out.

11:48 <Cepheid> I hate test anxiety.

11:48 <RazorSharpFang> ... .... Is `勤` made up of `事` ?

11:49 <RazorSharpFang> Jisho save me

11:50 <Cepheid> Heh.

11:51 <RazorSharpFang> Hmm, no. They are different.

11:51 <Cepheid> Oh, this reminds me.  *Goes and adds vocabulary for chapter to spreadsheet.*

11:51 <RazorSharpFang> There's so many different characters...

11:57 <Cepheid> I find you slowly start to get the hang of it.  Especially if you learn to decompose the kanji into radicals, and learn the meaning of the radicals.

11:57 <Cepheid> While it doesn't give the exact meaning of each kanji, it does help with general idea.

11:58 * ConfusionRift regrets checking at some of the events.

11:59 <ConfusionRift> Yeah, no. Besides, was gonna play something else. Just a quick check that was.

12:08 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Pony Plushie Compilation #439 [ https://tinyurl.com/yxje8yl9 ]

12:09 <Cepheid> Hmm?

12:10 <ConfusionRift> Double Diablos.

12:14 <Cepheid> What's it get you?

12:15 <Cepheid> Man, this wind is gonna be annoying.

12:16 <RazorSharpFang> I'd like to set up a vertical-axis wind-turbine at some point.

12:17 <RazorSharpFang> I hear they're lower-power but they require much less maintenance and are self-starting.

12:17 <Cepheid> Would this plan involve attaching it to a moon in orbit around Mars?

12:17 <RazorSharpFang> ... I actually don't know if there's wind on the moon

12:18 <Cepheid> There is atmosphere.  So presumably, there's wind.  Just not very strong winds.

12:18 <Cepheid> The above is actually from Randall Munroe's How To.

12:18 <RazorSharpFang> Okay, but at such little pressure does the speed even mean anything?

12:18 <Cepheid> He describes attaching a long cable to Phobos, and on that, attaching a wind turbine.

12:19 <Cepheid> The high speed of Phobos, combined with the tethered wind turbine would generate energy.

12:19 <Cepheid> Of course, this tether is several kilometers long, and probably weighs a metric ton.

12:19 <Cepheid> It'll also cause Phobos to crash into Mars sooner than expected.

12:19 <RazorSharpFang> I'm fairly sure there's some complicated physics about the relationship of speed and pressure of fluids like gasses.

12:20 <RazorSharpFang> Might even involve temperature

12:20 <Cepheid> Mmhmm.

12:20 <Cepheid> He actually calculated the amount of energy that would be generated in the lifespan of Phobos.

12:20 * Filly_Nightmares mewl because she needs halp wif her Java homework :<

12:20 <Cepheid> As well as the energy that would result from the impact of Phobos into Mars.

12:20 <RazorSharpFang> Perhaps slamming a moon into Mars might be a bad idea if we want to colonise mars.

12:21 <Cepheid> Long story short, he advises a different approach to energy generation on Mars.

12:21 <Cepheid> Maybe shooting a hole into Mars would help!

12:21 <RazorSharpFang> I'm still a big advocate of nuclear power.

12:21 <Cepheid> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-u1H0gltsbw

12:21 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.

12:21 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about YoU cAn'T jUsT sHoOt a hOlE iNtO ThE sUrFaCe oF mArS

12:22 * Filly_Nightmares giggles

12:22 <Cepheid> Debatably the best line ever uttered in a game.

12:23 <RazorSharpFang> "You can't do $thing" --> *Does thing*

12:23 <Cepheid> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGCQdrhYADw

12:23 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.

12:23 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Doom Eternal | YoU cAn'T jUsT sHoOt a hOlE iNtO ThE sUrFaCe oF mArS

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12:25 <Cepheid> In reality, we're more likely to find a way to push Phobos away from Mars.

12:26 <Cepheid> Even though it's not expected to crash into Mars for a good long while.

12:26 <RazorSharpFang> Forward thinking? That's a first for humanity

12:27 <ConfusionRift> Cepheid: I really didn't check. I saw two nasty icons, their names, and kinda walks away from it. Let me recheck.

12:28 <Cepheid> Mind, it's not expected to crash for 30-50 million years (citation source: Wikipedia).

12:30 <Cepheid> Okay, this house shifting from the wind's getting annoying.

12:30 <Cepheid> I can hear creaking and such because of it.

12:30 <RazorSharpFang> if you put up enough wind turbines the wind will die down

12:31 <Cepheid> Not financially viable.  It gets windy here, sure, but it's not windy enough for wind turbines to run regularly and generate a usable amount of electricity.

12:31 <RazorSharpFang> Ah, it's not windy /consistently/

12:32 <Cepheid> That's why the region is powered by hydroelectricity instead.

12:32 <RazorSharpFang> So is this due a storm of sorts then?

12:33 <Cepheid> Not raining, not storming, so no idea.  Just lots of clouds, darkness, and wind.

12:34 <Cepheid> Looks like we have a cold front moving through the region.  That might be the cause.

12:37 <ConfusionRift> Never mind. Saw something else. It was Diablos and some Barroths. Not worth it. Seems to just be for more armor spheres.

12:38 <Cepheid> Ah.

12:45 * Cepheid dashes forward towards a Diablos, slashes it with a greatsword. Then fade slashes back, transforms sword into a gun, fires off several rounds. Follows up with an attack that causes a monstrous mouth to grow out of the weapon and take a bite out of the monster. "... Wait, wrong game." Gets run down by the Diablos.

12:53 <Cepheid> ... Geezus christ cats.

12:53 <Cepheid> Tizzy walked up to me while Spitfire was on me.  So he jumps down, and as Tizzy gets closer and closer, I suddenly hear spazzing and Tizzy running off.

12:53 <Cepheid> Spitfire swiped at her, based on the behavior.

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13:36 <Cepheid> Hum, neighbors are moving out.

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13:44 <Cepheid> Filly_Nightmares:  So, what's this Java assignment of yours?

13:51 <Cepheid> Spitfire...

13:53 <RazorSharpFang> Gosh dang it. New-York uses daylight savings time. NYSE opens at 10:30 PM for me now.

14:01 <Cepheid> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70GFlDQ2Jew&feature=youtu.be

14:05 <ConfusionRift> ...

14:05 <ConfusionRift> No idea, and they really just want to stand on your arm.

14:07 <Cepheid> This is that kneading/balancing thing I keep talking about.

14:07 <Cepheid> He does it in the same spot every time.

14:07 <Cepheid> And as it goes on, he tries more and more frequency to balance on my arm.

14:11 <ADragonDreaming> murrrrrrgh. I desire not to work.

14:17 <Cepheid> I desire not to go to school, but here we are.

14:17 <RazorSharpFang> What happens if you put both arms together?

14:18 <Cepheid> He sticks to the one arm.

14:19 <Cepheid> It's a consistent behavior.  Always the right arm.

14:19 <Cepheid> Though, he does move to the left arm in the event that the right arm is inaccessible for some reason, and the left arm is accessible.

14:20 <RazorSharpFang> So even if you put both arms side-by-side squished together in parallel he'll still adhere to the right arm?

14:20 <Cepheid> Yes.

14:21 <RazorSharpFang> There goes all notions I had that I understood that behaviour.

14:22 <Cepheid> I suspect it's because my right hand is the dominant hand.

14:22 <Cepheid> Thus, I do a majority of stuff with it.

14:29 <Cepheid> RIght, back in a bit.

14:29 <Cepheid> Quiz time. o3o

14:31 * ConfusionRift feels real tired.

14:31 <ConfusionRift> Just gonna go to sleep, or try to. Laters!

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14:43 <Cepheid> Still having trouble with comprehension of speech.  Getting better.

14:46 <RazorSharpFang> .Net 5 will not be LTS sadly. .Net 6 will be the LTS release.

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15:12 <Lumindia> hmm

15:12 <Lumindia> that's upsetting... the GPU I wanted for my new PC is out of stock from my preferred retailer, and the next cheapest is $70 more expensive than what I was looking at

15:13 <Lumindia> What I wanted was the EVGA GeForce RTX 2060 6 GB KO ULTRA GAMING one, but I'm currently looking at a EVGA GeForce RTX 2060 XC as it's significantly cheaper, and I can order everything in my build at once if I go with that option

15:16 <Cepheid> Ordering through a store tends to be relatively quick.  Usually arrives in a day or two because the warehouse is relatively close by, usually.

15:18 <Cepheid> Question the prof asked in Japanese:  "Who has a lot of money?"  No one answered in the affirmative.

15:18 <Cepheid> I love that.

15:18 <Cepheid> I'm "Ottawa Andrew" and the other Andrew is "Halifax Andrew"

15:21 <Cepheid> "Halifax Andrew, ..." *Professor interrupts by laughing at how I asked this.*

15:23 <Lumindia> Ceph: Time isn't too much of an issue for me, it's price

15:24 <Cepheid> Mm.

15:24 <Lumindia> if I were to get the KO Ultra card, the current price of that would put me over my budget

15:24 <ADragonDreaming> Laughing because you used "Halifax Andrew" ?

15:24 <Cepheid> Yes.

15:24 <Cepheid> Instead of just "Andrew"

15:24 <ADragonDreaming> Hehe, nice

15:26 <Cepheid> Here I was thinking I wasn't studying well enough, but I seem to be doing better off than some folks in class now.  There are still others far better than me, so I need to up the studying and practice of vocabulary.

15:26 <Cepheid> ... Especially since I noticed a small problem last week.

15:27 <Cepheid> I remember Japanese->English vocabulary, but not the other way around, because I've been studying primarily Japanese->English.

15:31 <RazorSharpFang> Of course, in a field there's specialised vocab, which is annoying.

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15:42 <Cepheid> Dangit.  I think I'm catching a cold.

15:43 <ADragonDreaming> You mentioned somthing along those lines yesterday, too.

15:43 <Cepheid> It'd explain the warmness I've been dealing with, the sniffling and all that.

15:44 <RazorSharpFang> I managed to get to the gym for the first time in months, so I'm happy about that.

15:48 <ADragonDreaming> taking infection precautions, yes?

15:48 <RazorSharpFang> Yeah. I make sure to clean the equipment before and after use.

15:48 <ADragonDreaming> Good good.

15:53 <Cepheid> Today, I'll keep it to push-ups and stomach crunches.

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15:58 <Cepheid> Although my head is saying I shouldn't.

16:09 <RazorSharpFang> It's past midnight for me, time to sleep.

16:11 <ADragonDreaming> g'night, Razor

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17:08 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Makenshi: Discord Music: RottenTotten - Discord the Cosmic Trickster [Orchestral] [ https://tinyurl.com/y3j6ys2d ]

17:09 <ADragonDreaming> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSe9uywBfB8

17:09 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.

17:09 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Nintendo GameCube Startup (OMG Im so fast lol!!11!!!) - Console BIOS\/Startup Fanfare

17:19 <Cepheid> Heh.

17:29 <Cepheid> Hum, after this coffee I'm gonna do the exercises I had in mind.  I feel like the sniffly nose and minor head pain is my body trying to convince me not to exercise.  That is, be lazy.

17:34 * Cepheid sighs at that pun. "Mountains aren't just funny, they're hill areas."

17:37 <Cepheid> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lWTSGCEHvQ ADragonDreaming.

17:37 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.

17:37 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Everybody Loves Bazelgeuse!

18:08 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Comic: Nightmare Night Savings / AoS 6:31-32 / Future 40 / DnD 92 / Signing Off 58 / Hollow 158-159 [ https://tinyurl.com/yxple9ob ]

18:08 <ADragonDreaming> Hehe

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18:23 <Cepheid> ... Huh, that's an interesting mechanic for Fatalis.  Got spoiled a bit on it due to a video with no warning.

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19:08 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Drawfriend Stuff (Pony Art Gallery) #358 [ https://tinyurl.com/y3d5ton7 ]

19:10 * Cepheid flops into bed.

19:10 <Cepheid> I should be in bed if I'm potentially not feeling well.

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19:44 <LunaOfTheMoonLight> hey

19:45 <LunaOfTheMoonLight> !hug

19:45 * DerpyBot has her back to LunaOfTheMoonLight

19:45 <DerpyBot> Hugtiem? >:3

19:45 * DerpyBot slowly turns around with a mischievous grin on her face, showing two pointy teeth

19:45 * DerpyBot pounces and wraps her hooves around LunaOfTheMoonLight, sinking her teeth into LunaOfTheMoonLight's neck

19:46 <LunaOfTheMoonLight> what in the Equestria?!?!

19:47 <ADragonDreaming> Still in halloween mode.

19:49 <LunaOfTheMoonLight> oh ok!

19:50 <Lumindia> kek

19:51 <LunaOfTheMoonLight> how is everyone?

19:53 <ADragonDreaming> highly distracted from work

19:55 <LunaOfTheMoonLight> lol same

19:55 <ADragonDreaming> I have transitioned locations to help with concentration. We'll see if it's effective.

19:57 <LunaOfTheMoonLight> have fun with that

19:59 <Cepheid> I feel so sorry for the landscapers.  They're currently employed to do leaf cleanup.  While there are still leaves on the trees.

20:00 <ADragonDreaming> waiting for everything to fall off is certainly one strategy, but there are some downsides to it. It makes for a bigger, more arduous task once all leaves have fallen, for one, and you have to deal with all the leaves being on the ground currently while you wait for the rest to fall.

20:00 <ADragonDreaming> This can lead to propagation of molds, potential issues with the lawn underneath, etc.

20:01 <ADragonDreaming> repeated periodic cleanups to address the already built-up fallen foliage is fairly common.

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20:04 <Cepheid> Hmm.

20:04 * Lumindia does a gentle boop on the Angie snoot

20:04 <Cepheid> In any case, no one's come by to collect the leaves in some time, it seems.

20:05 <Cepheid> The bin's overflowing.

20:09 <ADragonDreaming> That's definitely an issue.

20:11 <ADragonDreaming> incident not found? Incident not found?! What do you mean incident not found? I copied the number from a list of existing incidents I searched up earlier today! Incident must be found!

20:11 <ADragonDreaming> And then I found I'd copied the agent name field, not the incident number.

20:16 <Cepheid> https://imgur.com/gallery/aioj0Yy I feel compelled to find this person and slap them upside the back of the head.

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20:16 *** ChanServ sets mode: +qo Ali Ali

20:16 <ADragonDreaming> "That's how you convert AMD to Intel."

20:17 * Ali yawns and flops over ADragonDreaming

20:19 * Lumindia brushes Ali, then nibbleso n their ear

20:19 * LunaOfTheMoonLight is confused

20:20 <Cepheid> https://imgur.com/gallery/1TanEFJ

20:23 * Ali spots newnick and raises eyebrow

20:23 <ADragonDreaming> Monowhale.

20:24 * Lumindia continues to nibble on Ali's ear

20:24 <LunaOfTheMoonLight> hi i am new...

20:25 * Cepheid glares at ADragonDreaming.

20:25 * ADragonDreaming signs the monowhale song.

20:25 <ADragonDreaming> *sings

20:26 * Ali wavies to newpon. Is just on edge due to a bot bothering the channel a lot the past week.

20:26 * Ali signs ADragonDreaming

20:26 <Cepheid> Hey Tiz

20:26 * ADragonDreaming sells self on ebay: Dragon officially autographed by Ali

20:26 <LunaOfTheMoonLight> i'm not a bot i real person! UwU

20:26 <ADragonDreaming> Yes, newpon is legit.

20:27 <Ali> Like I said, I'm a bit on edge due to that bot.  I'm sorry if I'm coming off rude

20:27 * LunaOfTheMoonLight buys the signed dragon

20:27 <LunaOfTheMoonLight> nah you're fine!

20:28 <Cepheid> I would assume that the fact that they are being coherent would have been a straightforward clue they weren't the bot.

20:29 * Ali steals Cepheid's cats to snug on.

20:30 <Cepheid> Why must you cats mark my laptop?

20:31 <Ali> They rubbing cheek on it or doing something else?

20:31 * LunaOfTheMoonLight is a wolf and is open if anyone wants to snuggle her

20:31 <Cepheid> Rubbing cheeks.

20:35 <Ali> Well when I hear marking, I don't usually think of cheek rubbing at first.  had too many doggos beforehand.

20:35 <LunaOfTheMoonLight> lol same!!

20:38 <Cepheid> Heh.

20:38 <Cepheid> Cats mark in multiple ways, and yes, that is one way they'll do it.

20:40 <Cepheid> Neutering a cat prevents it.  Though I'm told this only applies when a cat is neutered *BEFORE* it starts marking via spraying.

20:46 <Ali> I've never had a male cat though

20:51 <Dappled> Cats are good.

20:54 <Lumindia> meanwhile. https://i.imgur.com/NWDLN2c.jpg

20:54 <Lumindia> Sonic better watch out

20:55 * Ali glomps Dakota

20:56 <Ali> Gosh darn it

20:56 <Lumindia> what?

20:56 * Ali tries again and glomps Dappled

20:56 <Dakota> :o

20:56 <Lumindia> kek

20:56 * Lumindia glomps Dappled as well

20:56 <Lumindia> ponypile!

20:56 * Dappled hugs the Ali and Lumindia horses.

20:56 <Lumindia> we are good horses

20:56 <ADragonDreaming> North or South?

21:00 <Dappled> Well, personally I liked North Dakota better than South. He's just nicer than his sister.

21:03 <LunaOfTheMoonLight> lol

21:08 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Makenshi: Luna & Spiritual Medicine Music: Payyn - Luna's Experience with Ayahuasca [Mashcore/Extratone] [ https://tinyurl.com/y5d7zru4 ]

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21:09 <Schism> Procedural shaders are fun.  https://twitter.com/simonthommes/status/1323185049492140033

21:11 <ADragonDreaming> ...but that's not a sphere.

21:12 <Cepheid> It's not, but it uses the vertices of a sphere.

21:14 <Cepheid> In general, you need some sort of input in order to render anything.  For a fragment shader alone, a simple square comprised of two triangles will suffice.

21:14 <Cepheid> Otherwise, if you want to do more complex stuff, you may need a vertex shader as well, which implies input vertex data of some sort.

21:15 <Cepheid> Other shaders might also be used, including...

21:16 <Cepheid> Geometry, Mesh, and Raytracing shaders.  The latter 2 require modern hardware though.

21:16 <Cepheid> AMD RX6000 series or nVidia RTX.

21:17 <Cepheid> Intel, apparently their most recent generation of IGPs support raytracing and mesh shaders, so..

22:00 * Filly_Nightmares wigglewaggles into Dappled warms

22:00 * Dappled gives the hugs.

22:00 * Filly_Nightmares meow

22:05 <Lumindia> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6evO73HqvBQ

22:05 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.

22:05 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Megalovania played on Mayonnaise

22:05 <Lumindia> FamilyJules you absolute madlad

22:08 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Bronies React: Pony Life [ https://tinyurl.com/yy3de75t ]

22:48 <PinkieShy> Well taking my Labrador Todd to the vet tomorrow. :)

22:48 <PinkieShy> Hopefully the spot on his elbow (Bald spot) is nothing serious

22:49 <PinkieShy> Plus they'll be able to get him a prescription to the good flea medicine stuff so that'll help me not itch as bad :D

22:52 * Cepheid walks out of bathroom. "Tizzy and Spit-" Spitfire comes running upstairs immediately. "-fire. You need to learn to keep your cat litter in the litter box. Also, what did you do, Spitfire? You don't normally come at the first mention of your name."

23:08 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Animatic: This is Halloween [ https://tinyurl.com/y5nh5hv6 ]

23:24 <Cepheid> So, Watch Dogs: Legion has a sliiiiiightly problematic... "bug"?

23:25 <Cepheid> Basically, NPCs are dynamically generated, and have information you can get via tools, that includes "what they've been doing lately" and "their profession."

23:25 <Cepheid> One such NPC was dynamically generated.  Her profession was "Pediatrician."  What's been going on with her lately? "She recently got out of a personal relationship with a patient."

23:34 <Schism> Slightly problematic that.

23:34 <ADragonDreaming> yeah thats... uh... that's an issue.

23:35 <ADragonDreaming> Seems they needed to tweak the filters.

23:37 <Cepheid> It's probably more along the lines of "Pediatrician is grouped in with doctors."  "Doctors have been known to have personal relationships with patients."

23:38 <Cepheid> Pediatrician needs to be moved to a separate group wherein that particular pairing cannot happen, while still retaining all the other valid pairings.

23:39 <ADragonDreaming> aye

23:40 <ADragonDreaming> aka tweaking the filters.

23:40 <Cepheid> Okay, fair enough.

23:42 <Schism> Could this be the worst sheep?  https://twitter.com/PigPenandPaper/status/1303137608281718786

23:46 <Cepheid> https://twitter.com/PigPenandPaper/status/1303210332182069248 Nah.  This is the worst.

23:47 <Schism> Code Red isn't that bad...

23:47 <Schism> Lifewire's pretty junk, though.

23:48 <Schism> Livewire*

23:49 <Schism> Right... shower eaten, food worn, time to get back to work.

23:50 <Cepheid> How did the shower taste?

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