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00:06 <ADragonDreaming> what'd he do?
00:06 <ADragonDreaming> Ah.
00:06 <ADragonDreaming> I see.
00:08 <NitroTheFurry> I dont
00:08 <ADragonDreaming> Apparently he was already on the way out, then this lastest thing clinched it.
00:11 <Cepheid> I'm starting to think the antibiotics might also be influencing how I'm behaving.
00:16 <Schism> NitroTheFurry, he'd long since been indulging himself with gatherings of the more recondite groups in Canadian society, and the event which sparked his dismissal was when he pledged to sing 'O Canada' at a pro-COVID event.
00:17 <Cepheid> ... o3o
00:17 <Schism> At which point the Canucks just said, "Sing all you want, but you ain't singing for us."
00:17 <Cepheid> I can't keep adding to this list of people I need to punch. Sooner or later I'm going to run out of space, or it's going to be too heavy for me to carry around.
00:17 <NitroTheFurry> Pro covid as in... they want covid to be happening?
00:18 <Schism> Pro-COVID as in 'they don't want to be mildly inconvenienced by wearing masks'.
00:18 <Cepheid> Conundrum.
00:18 <Schism> But let's leave it at that. He's been fired, no more hockey stadiums for him.
00:18 <Cepheid> If I punch a pro-COVID idiot, I run the risk of contaminating myself with COVID. But if I DON'T punch them, the consequences for them simply won't be as bad.
00:19 <Schism> You could throw a milkshake on them from a distance.
00:19 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: My Little Pony Speedpaint Compilation #167 [ https://tinyurl.com/y5aeoptd ]
00:20 <Schism> From what I've heard, this is far more damaging than any mere punch.
00:20 <Schism> (Save for perhaps fruit punch.)
00:20 <NitroTheFurry> Ah
00:21 <Cepheid> Hum. 7:30. Gonna eat somethin', drug myself, then bed.
00:25 * Schism finishes the dishes.
00:25 * ADragonDreaming runs around plugging in all the things.
00:33 <Cepheid> Why are you plugging everything in?
00:35 <Cepheid> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxDqsAI35iw Man. People will port DOOM or make DOOM-quality games for anything. DOOM clone on a PICO-8.
00:43 * Cepheid noms chicken nuggets.
00:44 <Cepheid> Chicken nuggets are love.
00:51 * Schism passes Cepheid some apricot chili sauce to dip the nuggets in.
00:51 * Cepheid already finished them, but she had some extremely spicy barbeque sauce for them.
00:52 <Cepheid> I am going to be so danged far behind in MHWorld. For the next couple of weeks when I return to the hunt, it's going to be the other way around for picking targets.
00:52 <Cepheid> Usually I just let ADragonDreaming do all the picking because I typically just... "work with whatever I have a majority of the time" so to speak. But this time around I'll be the one having to spend a ton of time crafting new gear.
00:52 <Cepheid> And he'll be getting the Low-Level Hunter Helper rewards. o3o
00:58 <Cepheid> All I know is that, come this Friday, after the last of the Japanese-related tests and such, I really, *REALLY* want to grind Zinogre and Stygian Zinogre into paste enough to make all four of their armor sets, just 'cause.
01:02 <Schism> "That's your sincere voice." "Well, I'm being sincere."
01:03 <Cepheid> And the whole time, I'm going to be imagining the Zinogres as the embodiment of the university, it's administration, and 99% of it's employees.
01:04 <Schism> Seems a healthy way to look at it.
01:04 <Schism> Mlrgh. Hopefully, tomorrow I'll have at least a little time to chew through the case backlog, but we're well into the swing of things, so I have my doubts.
01:05 <Cepheid> I'm still at a loss for how someone in administrative duties could go "Oh, that e-mail address looks invalid because it has a number in it. Best fix that."
01:05 <Cepheid> I just... I don't get it.
01:06 <Cepheid> Did you know that the psychiatrists were so concerned about my absolute vitriol towards the university, that they had to ask me if I felt like the university was picking on me specifically?
01:07 <Schism> I can imagine. The stupidity of bureaucracy can oftentimes feel like that.
01:08 <Cepheid> At this point, I'm kind of curious what my mental health records look like at both the university and at the hospitals.
01:08 <Cepheid> I also wonder if I'm on any watch lists as a result of some of the things I've said.
01:14 <Cepheid> Hum. That bit of venting helped relax me a bit.
01:16 <Cepheid> If in doubt, violence is the answer.
01:19 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Say Something Nice About Cadance [ https://tinyurl.com/y3wrk6p7 ]
01:24 <Schism> Ah, I do so love Discworld.
01:24 * Cepheid does some translation stuffs.
01:24 <Cepheid> In this case, the translation of what the final boss of Oath in Felghana says before the battle itself.
01:26 <Schism> "I wonder... am I really a bastard, or am I just really good at thinking like one?" --Moist von Lipwig
01:27 <Cepheid> Starts off with われはぜったい "I am absolute" Then follows up with われは???, the ??? I can't comprehend. Given the translated version was "I am the Alpha and the Omega." It's probably something akin to "I am eternal."
01:28 <Schism> If they're going with that quote, might be "the beginning and the end", or "the first and the last".
01:28 <Cepheid> Or, it could be worded the opposite way in Japanese.
01:28 <Cepheid> The End and the Beginning.
01:28 <Schism> Mmm.
01:29 <Cepheid> Oh.
01:29 <Cepheid> It's いえん
01:29 <Cepheid> "beyond; further than"
01:30 <Cepheid> A literal translation thus is: I am absolute. I am beyond.
01:31 <Cepheid> His Japanese title is "the Devastator from Far Ocean"
01:31 <Cepheid> His English title is "Sinister Marauder from Afar."
01:31 <Cepheid> The implication in either is that he's a space flea.
01:42 <Cepheid> I need to sleep now.
01:43 <Schism> Rest well.
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01:54 <Cepheid> Need and will are mutually exclusive. I am in bed, and I have meds in me, but I am not yet going to sleep. Bit of reading while I wait for the drugs to kick in.
01:59 <Cepheid> So apparently, India is beset by an unknown illness.
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02:02 <Vulpor> Its been a bit my friends
02:02 <Cepheid> Yup.
02:03 <Finwe> Mr Vulpor.
02:03 * Finwe doffs his hat.
02:03 <Vulpor> How's it going hope your all doing well or at least as well as one can be in 2020
02:04 <Vulpor> Finwe good to see you and Cepheid as well
02:04 <Vulpor> binging in Cyberpunk impressions right now
02:04 <Vulpor> Seems to be a hot mess of a game that will be "worth it" in six months
02:05 <Finwe> o3o
02:05 <Cepheid> That does not surprise me.
02:05 <Cepheid> Overhyped, fraught with controversy.
02:06 <Vulpor> but of course some people seem to think its Celestia's gift to the masses
02:07 <Vulpor> I will play it of course but honestly had a blast with Spiderman
02:07 <Vulpor> Miles Morales
02:07 <Vulpor> Vahallah maybe next
02:08 <Vulpor> Oh and I have turned one year older since we chatted I am now nearing the top of the hill
02:09 <Cepheid> Meanwhile I'm going insane ever so slowly.
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02:18 <Vulpor> Cepheid hope you can get help my friend everytime I see you you seem to be fighting and I hope you can keep fighting man you got this and I hope you can get better soon
02:18 <Vulpor> Just keep plugging away and know your not alone
02:18 <Cepheid> I'm always gonna be fighting. I won't stop fighting until I'm de- ... Wait, that won't sound right.
02:19 <Cepheid> I'm fine, though. Seriously. Occasional hiccup here and there, but I'm not gonna go crossing that bridge too easily.
02:19 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Nightly Discussion #2366 [ https://tinyurl.com/yyl7slmk ]
02:20 <Vulpor> Dang skippy man
02:21 <Vulpor> I been through a hell of a five year track and honestly its been hard but life is still good
02:21 <Cepheid> Though I'll be damned if I say I don't want to punch The Person In Charge in the face right now for a lot of things.
02:24 <Vulpor> Yeah, but for me its all about the expirence
02:25 <Vulpor> What I mean to say is I was born disabled and for some that would mean a lifetime of bad stuff but for me I wouldin't have changed anything in my life
02:26 <Vulpor> If not for the path I've walked I would have never met my wife or seen St Kitts or learned about the great sport of hockey
02:26 <Cepheid> Still doesn't change the fact that I want to punch The Creator in the face.
02:26 <Cepheid> Violence solves everything for me. :P
02:27 <Vulpor> Oh, believe me Ive got a knuckle sandwhich for a few people on the other side
02:27 <Vulpor> with mustard
02:28 <Vulpor> But for right now I will enjoy the ride
02:29 <Vulpor> Ok good confirmation Cyberpunk does not "end" with the main story
02:29 <Vulpor> you can roll back a save
02:30 * Golden flops.
02:33 * Schism noms upon a pickle. Then three more.
02:39 <Finwe> o3o
02:39 <Finwe> A pickled gherkin?
02:40 <Cepheid> A pickled pickle.
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02:41 <Schism> Pickled gherkins, aye. o3o
02:41 <Schism> Or cornichons, not to be confused with a horse with a cucumber on its forehead.
02:43 <Finwe> Pickled beetroots are also popular around these parts, as well as onions, garlic and pumpkin.
02:44 <Cepheid> I prefer my garlic raw.
02:45 * Cepheid noms a bulb of garlic.
02:45 * Cepheid suffers garlic poisoning.
02:49 <Schism> Behold. Skullwaffle. https://www.amazon.com/DMWS100SP-Machine-Individual-Paninis-Browns/dp/B08BCR3DLT/
02:53 * Schism snrks at Vetinari briefly toying with a logic puzzle named "Jikan no Muda". It involves putting numbers on a grid.
02:57 <Cepheid> Futility of time?
02:58 <Cepheid> Time waster?
02:59 <Schism> Yup.
02:59 <Schism> Somewhat more accurate than 'su doku'.
03:00 <Cepheid> Ah, it translates to "A waste of time", so yeah, "Time waster" works.
03:09 <Cepheid> Ears be itching, and I got something draining into my throat, causing a constant need to "swallow" something. Blah.
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05:47 <ADragonDreaming> one hopes you managed to sleep. That direction I go myself.
05:48 * Ali sits and bleps by herself
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06:38 <Heartbreak> And then, pineapples.
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06:46 <Heartbreak> Gah! Get off me, little filly Ali!!!
06:46 <Ali> I'm a mare thank you
06:46 * Ali is not smol filly sized
07:02 * Ali huffs as the pono doesn't respond and flops to the corner of lonely.
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07:47 <PinkieShy> i think my ISP gave a new speed
07:51 <Ali> Slower or faster :P
07:53 <PinkieShy> Wooohooo!!!
07:53 <PinkieShy> I don't got 100mbps donw 10 up no more
07:53 <PinkieShy> its now officially 300mbps down 25mbps up
07:53 <NitroTheFurry> Damn
07:55 <Ali> Funny, mine is completely different
07:56 <Ali> 54 down, and 12 up. God why is it such shite...
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07:58 <ConfusionRift> Hello everypony.
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07:59 * Ali grabs ConfusionRift for snugs
07:59 * ConfusionRift snugs Ali.
08:04 <NitroTheFurry> Hiya
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08:19 <ConfusionRift> Okay... these LED strip ads... why would I put strips everywhere, and have them strobe all day?
08:23 <ConfusionRift> Anywho... back to Starbound. (sighs at himself, starting again)
08:26 <Ali> But why play the substandard Terraria?
08:26 * Ali nibbles ConfusionRift ear
08:27 <ConfusionRift> I dunno. Starting to enjoy it again, with this slew of mods on. :P
08:28 <Ali> I want to play Terraria a little, but alone just makes me upset
08:28 <Ali> I have learned to beat it by myself at least once
08:29 <ConfusionRift> I kinda sorta have as well.
08:30 <Ali> But playing alone the game is overwhelming to me
08:31 <ConfusionRift> I know. Thing is, there isn't a server. And this game doesn't have a standalone server, like Minecraft.
08:32 <ConfusionRift> And... I really don't wanna venture the mess that was (whispers) Expert Mode.
08:32 <Ali> I wonder if we'd fare better, but again...server...
08:32 <ConfusionRift> It always goes downhill for me at Plantera.
08:32 <Ali> Same unless I get lucky
08:32 <ConfusionRift> Actually, I have issues with the mechanical bosses.
08:32 <ConfusionRift> I just got lucky and persistent last time.
08:33 * ConfusionRift points at the Starcannon.
08:33 <Ali> Destroyer can be cheesed though
08:33 <Ali> Dynamite and chests
08:34 <ConfusionRift> The eyes and Skeletron Prime. ESPECIALLY Skeletron Prime.
08:35 <Ali> Prime if I'm on equal footing, I don't have too much trouble
08:35 <ConfusionRift> It also bothers me that ultimately, I end up going range. Making melee and summoner very meh really fast.
08:35 <Ali> Melee is horrible to be honest
08:36 <Ali> Short ranged face tanking doesn't work without a healing support, which is not a class in Terraria
08:36 <Ali> And sadly the best summon weapon is one of the harder to get.
08:36 <ConfusionRift> "Taste the rainbow, (bleep)!!!"
08:37 <Ali> And I do own that weapon on a few characters
08:37 <Ali> Its pretty nuts
08:37 <ConfusionRift> Actually, that's the one boss I haven't beat. Same goes for the other slime.
08:37 <Ali> But honestly I feel like you need at least a invasion weapon for fighting fairy girl in the daylight
08:38 <ConfusionRift> The bug never showed up during my whole playthrough.
08:38 <Ali> The bug? You mean truffle worms?
08:39 <ConfusionRift> The prismatic lacewing.
08:39 <Ali> Oh, a water candle tends to help that.
08:40 <ConfusionRift> Oh... OOOH! I completely forgot about Duke Fishron!
08:40 <ConfusionRift> Guh, that's three still on the list.
08:43 <ConfusionRift> [The adventure is not over... it's never over.]
08:44 <ConfusionRift> I also forgot about the alien invasion. [IT'S NEVER OVER!!!]
08:46 <ConfusionRift> I just have bad luck with the alien invasion. Last was playing with mods, the probe didn't show up till I was almost at Calamitas.
08:47 <Ali> The change to the UFO makes me not like the alien invasion event.
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08:54 <ConfusionRift> And having items and events that only show up AFTER dealing with the alien invasion just makes things a bit more annoying.
08:58 <Ali> And sometimes the weapon they want you to get, there's better sidegrades that are so much easier to get.
08:58 <ConfusionRift> Yep!
09:05 <ConfusionRift> Man, now I really want to see about a personal server.
09:05 <ConfusionRift> Problem is... it's not my network.
09:06 <ConfusionRift> And I don't know how to host any of these.
09:07 * Ali doesn't know how to host either, other than I think direct invite to said game
09:09 * ConfusionRift stares at his unused PC.
09:11 <Golden> Oh. Not sure if I shared this, but I was able to fix my laptop battery issue. Also beat Episode 1 of Sly Thieves in Time
09:11 <ConfusionRift> Niice.
09:14 <Golden> Even got all bottles in episode 2. So more loot basically
09:15 * ConfusionRift sees the Join via Steam option. "Hmmmm?"
09:16 <ConfusionRift> Yep, that's the only solo host option I can see.
09:17 <ConfusionRift> Aside from turning my client to a server using TerrariaServer... which I'm not sure of.
09:18 <ConfusionRift> I'm check on this some other time.
09:20 <ConfusionRift> Yeah, still have to catch up on that game. Hope my controller still works fine. I'm sure it does...
09:22 * Golden flops.
09:49 <ConfusionRift> Oh. Liquid Erchius Fuel. Just casually. Sitting there.
09:55 <Lumindia_> Awaken, my masters
09:56 <Lumindia_> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUhVCoTsBaM
09:56 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Jojo's Bizarre Adventure- Awaken(Pillar Men Theme)
09:57 * ConfusionRift was thinking Metalocalypse... but that's a bit too violent.
09:58 <Lumindia_> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOuZcW5DPuc Take the land that must be taken
09:58 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.
09:58 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Awaken
10:01 <ConfusionRift> You can read this book and whatever. As long as you don't read it out loud. | "Okay." (proceeds to make a single with what's on the book, right on live concert) | Siiiigh.
10:07 * ConfusionRift is reminded of something.
10:08 <ConfusionRift> Hey kids. If you go into a cave full of jewels, gold, and other precious stones, and you see a fountain, do NOT drink from the water. That is all.
10:32 * ConfusionRift hears an airlock opening. Notices that anything that goes near it can open it.
10:33 <ConfusionRift> Good thing I didn't put these right outside the house. That would suck.
11:07 * Ali blinks and flops over ConfusionRift
11:10 <ConfusionRift> I took an airlock door I found somewhere underground, and decided to just use it for my room. A monster spawned under the house, near my room. Every time it got near the door, it would automatically open. So it would just open to just anything.
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11:19 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Morning Discussion #2138 [ https://tinyurl.com/y4csjt8k ]
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11:46 * Schism flops in. "You could wire that to a button, Rifty."
11:48 <ConfusionRift> Or a console, or a sensor. Still, I don't have the crafting table for that, and haven't found any of those yet.
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11:52 <ConfusionRift> And would need two. One to get in, one to get out. Unless I put it somewhere in the open, or I just put a switch outside.
11:53 <ConfusionRift> Either way, no biggie. :P
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12:18 <RazorSharpFang> I have a tradition where once every few months, I return to a place on the internet. A place where once a webcomic was updated. Wishing that it would return. I've been doing this for eight years now. Last updated 2012-04-02 12:00:00
12:19 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Pony Plushie Compilation #445 [ https://tinyurl.com/y59r9aq2 ]
12:26 <ConfusionRift> Hmm, I think last I had that situation, the comic died like in... 2006?
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12:44 <Schism> Hum.
12:44 * Schism logs into her work box. "Always 15 minutes early."
12:47 <Lumindia_> I''ve been up since 4:30
12:47 <Lumindia_> X_X
12:47 * Schism snugs the Lumin. "Sleeptime?"
12:48 * ConfusionRift checks the comic he was talking about... it's still dead. He removes it from bookmarks.
12:58 * ConfusionRift notices he just burned two hours doing nothing but rearranging blocks.
12:58 <Finwe> Lt Cdr ProcrastinationRift.
12:58 <Finwe> o7
12:59 <ConfusionRift> RAdm. Finwe. (salutes)
13:45 <ConfusionRift> Sleepy time!
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14:25 * Cepheid awakens.
14:26 <Schism> Good start to the day. Nothing quite like an hour-long escalation callback to an irate customer right away.
14:26 <Cyan_Spark> Razor the investor
14:26 * Schism waves to the Cephy.
14:27 <RazorSharpFang> Hey Cyan_Spark I can get into the brokerage today. :)
14:27 <Cyan_Spark> kewl
14:29 <Cyan_Spark> Anything that interests you premarket?
14:29 <Cyan_Spark> Or at least, 30 seconds till it opens :p
14:29 <RazorSharpFang> Tesla is down 2.65% premarket. 625 now.
14:29 <RazorSharpFang> Pretty sure that's the bounce off the ceiling from their huge bump earlier.
14:31 <Cyan_Spark> Palantir exhibiting a cup without handle
14:32 <RazorSharpFang> It's either going up or it's going down.
14:32 <RazorSharpFang> Gapped up a large amount and now appears to be bleeding off.
14:33 <RazorSharpFang> People are cashing out and locking in their gains it seems.
14:35 <RazorSharpFang> That red candle is beautiful.
14:46 <Lumindia_> Schism: There's patch 5.4 stuff to do
14:49 <Cepheid> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4lz8MN6MQA&feature=youtu.be
14:49 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.
14:49 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about DOOM CROSSING: Eternal Horizons ■ Music Video feat. Natalia Natchan
14:54 <Lumindia_> I love that video
14:54 <Lumindia_> and I just love the meme of the two games releasing at the same time
14:54 <Lumindia_> two completely different game styles and feels
14:54 <Lumindia_> and the two fandoms somehow came together in harmony
14:55 <Lumindia_> @ Schism: I woke up at 4:30 AM because the XIV servers came back up at 5
14:55 <Lumindia_> I wanted to be there rgiht athte hstarte
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15:04 <Cepheid> I think Lumindia_ was having a seizure while writing that sentence.
15:04 <Lumindia_> I wanted to be there right at the start
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15:29 <Cepheid> https://www.reddit.com/r/MonsterHunterWorld/comments/k8r1y0/mods_are_both_a_blessing_and_a_curse_maybe_nsfw/ ...
15:29 <Cepheid> Oh my gods.
15:29 <Cepheid> It's not NSFW.
15:31 <Cepheid> I mean, it might be if you consider eating emergency food to be cannibalism or something.
15:31 <NitroTheFurry> Lol
15:32 * RichardMist *coughs*
15:42 <Cepheid> What? It's a perfectly good use for emergency food.
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15:48 <RichardMist> mhm
15:50 <ADragonDreaming> I see wheover made the mod likes the Genshin Impact meme.
15:53 <Cepheid> Yep.
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16:08 <Cepheid> https://twitter.com/davekellett/status/1336341453841166345 ... Only 10-year-old boys? This would get the attention of any guy of any age.
16:08 * NitroTheFurry completely misunderstood that eith not reading the comic first
16:09 <Cepheid> Heh.
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16:12 <Cepheid> That said, it's true. Regardless of age, that story idea is kryptonite for most guys.
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16:21 <Cepheid> !log
16:21 <Unixkitty> https://unixkitty.com/logs/EquestriaDaily/latest.log.html
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16:43 <Cepheid> Observation: This year, at school, any type of school, in which all classes are now being done remotely and digitally, being the student in a group project/presentation/etc with all the computer knowledge and background is quite possibly the worst thing imaginable.
16:44 <Cepheid> Because it then falls upon that person to do a majority of stuff. Setting up the meetings. Doing the recordings. Doing post-processing on audio, if the recordings are to be submitted. And so on.
16:44 <Cepheid> Because no one else in the group has any idea on how to do any of that.
16:45 <RichardMist> And we can do nothing about that
16:48 <ADragonDreaming> eeyup
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16:52 <Cepheid> The only thing my group has done is come up with the basic idea for the sketch. Most of the writing was done by me on a publically-shared Google Docs. Most of the translation was done by me. Then came time to do the recording, I was again the one who set up everything for recording. Then came any post-processing, which again fell to me because no one else knew how to do it. And whether our prof wanted us to do the whole
16:52 <Cepheid> skit in one go or not, it would need post-processing anyways due to clicks, distortions, and volume issues.
16:53 <Cepheid> I don't want to log onto discord because I know this group is going to have a bunch of stuff that they'll want me to fix for the current version of the audio file to be submitted.
16:53 <Cepheid> I just want to submit it as is, and leave it at that.
16:55 <RichardMist> Cepheid, I hope everything will be okay from your side
16:55 <Cepheid> After this week, everything will be FAAAAAAAAANTASTIC.
16:57 <RichardMist> I hope that it will always be like this
16:57 <Cepheid> "Japan to fund AI matchmaking to boost birth rate" How out of touch do you have to be with your population to think that funding an AI to do matchmaking is a solution to boosting the birth rate?
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17:01 * Angeline stretches like a cat.
17:02 <RichardMist> They're just out of the world with their technology
17:03 <RichardMist> technologies"
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17:13 <Cepheid> ...
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17:13 <Cepheid> "It flows really well." That is legitimately the ONLY THING SAID about the end-result of the post-processing.
17:13 <Cepheid> There is nothing else.
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17:30 <Cepheid> "You should start off small for recipes. Make some chilli!"
17:30 <Cepheid> ... What.
17:32 <ADragonDreaming> Chili's not what I would call the simplest of recipes. It's not necessarily the most complex, either.
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17:34 <Cepheid> No, but given the extent of my cooking tends to be "grill cheese sandwiches", "scrambled eggs" and "mini sausages"...
17:34 <Cepheid> Or "canned tomato soup with a bunch of spicy stuff in it."
17:34 <ADragonDreaming> Then a simpler chili recipe would probably be an alright foray into the more involved things.
17:37 <Cepheid> Oh. Huh. Mindustry received a major update.
17:38 <NitroTheFurry> Yep
17:40 <Cepheid> And since I mentioned a game very few have heard of, a basic description: Take Factorio's tower defense mode, improve upon it. That's the simplest way to put it.
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17:42 <Cepheid> Basically, you mine resources, route them around, put them through processing facilities, and use the resources either to do research, or to throw them at your enemies.
17:43 <ADragonDreaming> You can pull out from the specific map whenever, though there's milestone waves that you want to reach to unlock more maps and also more tools, IIRC
17:43 <Cepheid> Mmhmm.
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18:03 <Schism> Save me from the queue.
18:03 * Cepheid does some design work for a small project. She is going to re-implement Etrian Odyssey's map drawing tool. That's the entirety of the project, just a map drawing system with drag-and-drop icons, messages, etc.
18:04 <Cepheid> This is gonna be one of my portfolio projects. It's small enough I can do it in a month if I put effort towards it, but large enough to demonstrate stuff.
18:04 <Cepheid> Plus, if I design it properly, I can drag it into another project in the future.
18:06 <Cepheid> The biggest issue is deciding what I want to write it *IN*.
18:08 <NitroTheFurry> Well wht r the pros and cons
18:08 <Cepheid> C/C++ with OpenGL provides the greatest compatibility across platforms. So that makes the most sense.
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18:10 <Cepheid> Java or C# with OpenGL is also a choice, though that reduces the number of viable platforms. And they both introduce their own difficulties in working with OpenGL.
18:11 <Cepheid> Thinking forward, though, Vulkan or DX12 would be a better graphics API to work with, with Vulkan being the better of the two. But using Vulkan introduces problems for older hardware.
18:12 <Cepheid> Also, Vulkan and DX12 are much harder to set up.
18:12 <Cepheid> And use, in general.
18:13 <Cepheid> Taking those issues into consideration, the general "best support" approach is simply to use a generic graphics API interface, and have the program switch either to a Vulkan implementation or OpenGL implementation based on user choice or hardware support.
18:14 <Cepheid> Which in itself would involve creating a separate, possibly shared or static library, and would be it's own project practically.
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18:17 <Cepheid> I can do all this, with varying levels of difficulty. It's not beyond me. But then, I say that about a lot of things with respect to programming, as it's better to assume I'm able to do it, otherwise I start to hesitate or suffer paralysis. o3o
18:17 <Cepheid> The biggest issue I have though is, if I support OpenGL/Vulkan/D3D/etc through a generic interface, there's one thing I cannot make generic.
18:18 <Cepheid> Shaders. Each graphics API has their own shader language.
18:18 <Cepheid> So if I have an engine or project that supports both OpenGL and Vulkan, I have to write shaders for both OpenGL and Vulkan separately, and load the right ones.
18:19 <Cepheid> Though, Khronos has been... working on resolving that, sort of.
18:21 <Cepheid> Khronos, the people behind OpenGL and Vulkan, have defined a shader language called SPIR-V. It's supposed to support all the various bits and pieces required by stuff like GLSL, HLSL, OpenCL C, and so on. By doing this, they have created a single, unified compiler that can take any shader language, output SPIR-V, and let it be used in Vulkan or any other API that supports SPIR-V.
18:23 <Cepheid> Alternatively, the compiler goes the other way around.
18:23 <Cepheid> That is, SPIR-V code is used to generate GLSL, HLSL, etc.
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18:31 <Cepheid> Ah, actually, the GLSL/HLSL/etc->SPIR-V compiler is provided by LunarG, not Khronos. Khronos provides the SPIR-V->GLSL/HLSL/etc compiler though.
18:32 <Cepheid> ... Actually it seems to be particularly confusing in general, it seems.
18:45 * Schism flumps in.
18:45 <Schism> The queue for calls today is even larger than yesterday, somehow. So.
18:46 <Cepheid> Oof.
18:48 * Cepheid hums. Determines basic set of functionality required for this project. Top level includes input, graphics initialization, shader loading, image/texture loading, image/texture rendering, mesh creation/rendering.
18:51 <RichardMist> Is NVlink really better than SLI?
18:52 <Cepheid> It's just an interconnect between nVidia GPUs, I don't know how it works, but I assume that to the system, it simply appears as SLI.
18:53 <Cepheid> But yes, NVlink bridges are superior to SLI bridges.
18:53 <Cepheid> It basically provides greater bandwidth between the GPUs compared to the older SLI bridges.
18:54 <Cepheid> That said, you need video cards that support it.
18:55 <RichardMist> Yeah, I want a NVlink video card in the future, but I think AMD will be a better variant
18:55 <RichardMist> Compared to performance
18:56 <Cepheid> For gaming, the difference between nVidia and AMD is starting to close considerably, especially given that the Radeon 6800 XT is comparable to the RTX 3080.
18:56 <Cepheid> But in terms of OS support, I'd go with Radeon.
18:57 <Cepheid> nVidia's been... causing trouble with non-MS platforms as of late, while AMD is improving it's open-source stuff.
18:58 <RichardMist> AMD still has the optimization problem with 6900 XT but I think the problem will be fixed in 6 months
18:58 <Cepheid> Optimization problem?
18:58 <RichardMist> yeah
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18:58 <RichardMist> Like with nVidia, they have the problem in driver-level
18:59 <Cepheid> Ah, that.
18:59 <RichardMist> AMD is too but with raytracing
18:59 <Cepheid> Yeah, nVidia's having driver problems as well.
18:59 <RichardMist> yep
19:01 <RichardMist> and AMD is way cheaper than nVidia
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19:07 <Cepheid> Meanwhile, with regards to the supply and demand issue...
19:07 <Cepheid> I don't think it's entirely that nVidia, AMD, Sony and the like with their products are deliberately keeping supply/production low. It's certainly a factor, but the other major part in the whole problem is the pandemic.
19:08 <Cepheid> We got a pandemic going on. We need people to keep their distance, wear masks, etc. And people aren't doing that, so factories, warehouse, shipping, they all either shut down, slow down, or become impaired.
19:08 <RichardMist> Cepheid, what do yo think about AMD Ryzen Threadripper 3990X ?
19:09 <Cepheid> Can't comment on something I don't own. Other than "It'd be nice for compiling large projects."
19:09 <Cepheid> It has a large number of PCIe lanes, so it's good for multi-GPU setups. It also has a lot of cores, so multithreaded applications will benefit.
19:10 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Comic: Future 45 / Double Squat / Parent Law / Lullaby 133 / BoE 8:19 / EF 1:8 / Movie Slate: Sh*tposting [ https://tinyurl.com/yyxgjhx3 ]
19:10 <Cepheid> That said, I am not familiar with the full performance benefits of multi-GPU configurations for gaming. It's great for general purpose compute, though.
19:10 <RichardMist> Yeah, it's very effective even compared to E5 2699 V4
19:10 <Cepheid> And the CPU's cores will mostly go unused in games, as not many make proper use of multicore/multithreading setups.
19:11 <RichardMist> But some applications have problems with that multithreading
19:11 <Cepheid> Mmhmm.
19:11 <Cepheid> In general, the threadripper is great for trivially-parallel problems.
19:11 <Cepheid> Same can be said of any CPU that has a large number of cores.
19:12 <Cepheid> So, for example, compilation of software, which is a trivially-parallel problem.
19:12 <RichardMist> But I want to buy a 4-CPU motherboard with 8-channel memory
19:12 <Cepheid> What do you intend to use it for?
19:15 <RichardMist> Ray tracing rendering, Neural Physics learning and other heavy stuff
19:16 <Cepheid> So 3D scene rendering, machine learning, and other processing-heavy stuff. If you're absolutely able to do all of that, and make use of the resources, then by all means build your wondermachine. If it was for gaming, I'd have to chew you out a bit. :P
19:16 <Cepheid> Hum. Google has started to open up with it's Fuschia OS.
19:17 <RichardMist> I also want to compute physics with maximum performance and realistic, with that memory bandwidth this will be possible
19:17 <Cepheid> It's accepting code contributions from the public, and is intending to bring the backroom discussion to the forefront with the public.
19:17 <Cepheid> I'm kind of curious.
19:17 <Cepheid> What kind of physics are you trying to simulate and compute?
19:18 <RichardMist> I don't know about Google, it's dangerous thing
19:18 <Cepheid> That you would need a 4x threadripper 3990x with enough memory to store a COD entirely in system RAM, and enough GPUs to melt a hole to the core of the earth?
19:18 <Cepheid> 'Cause man, that system is going to be HOT.
19:19 <Cepheid> And yeah, I don't trust Google either, but it's interesting to see them change like that.
19:19 <RichardMist> I've already taken care of the cooling
19:19 <Cepheid> A/Ced room?
19:20 <RichardMist> Nope
19:22 <RichardMist> Just perfect cooper coolers with liquid metal thermal grease
19:23 <ADragonDreaming> I don't trust Google, but I do trust movements towards open source.
19:24 <Cepheid> Richard, the issue isn't so much direct cooling of the components that concerns me.
19:24 <Cepheid> It's the change in the environment.
19:25 <Cepheid> Which ultimately will cause the internals of the system to start rising.
19:25 <Cepheid> You can vent the air away from the case, and vent in air, but that air needs to go far away.
19:25 <Cepheid> Or be passed through an air conditioner to keep the ambient temperature at a certain level.
19:25 <RichardMist> I don't think that I will need that "prometeia" thing for that
19:25 <Cepheid> Otherwise, it's going to turn the room into a furnace.
19:26 <Cepheid> I know this because that's what my PC does.
19:26 <Cepheid> My PC actually raises the temperature of my bedroom by about 5-10 degrees alone.
19:26 <Cepheid> It's more effective than the furnace of this house in keeping my bedroom warm.
19:26 <RichardMist> Cepheid, what's your PC specs and what type of cooling system are you using?
19:28 <Cepheid> Air cooling, after-market fans and cooling for the case. Specs are a Ryzen 2700X, ASUS X470 Prime Pro motherboard, 32GB of DDR4 RAM at 3000MHz, an ASUS STRIX RTX 2060 video card, a western digital blue 2TB NVMe, with a 4TB platter drive as secondary storage.
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19:28 <Cepheid> The cooler on the CPU is a Be Quiet dark rock pro 4.
19:35 <Cepheid> "I can't use an open-case design. I own two cats, one of which headbutts and rubs up against everything. One of these days, I'd hear a *BZZZZ* and end up with a cat who's bald on the head, or have a bald spot on his body, or be stuck in one of the coolers." - Paraphrased about why I don't use open-case cooling.
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20:14 <Cepheid> Okay.
20:15 <Cepheid> CD Projekt RED. Are you trying to go for the world record of "Number of violations of human rights, and controversies during the development of one game" or something?
20:16 <Cepheid> They had a seizure warning in the EULA of Cyberpunk 2077. But there's none during bootup of the game. And their response is "The dev team is currently exploring that [adding a warning at startup] and will be implementing it as soon as possible."
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21:25 <Cepheid> I am trying to figure out a behavior in people. So, say that company A starts selling product X. But the people think product X is bad, and don't want it, or don't think it should be sold, etc. So, what they do is they start going to make memes, and posting them, complaining left and right about the product.
21:25 <Cepheid> The problem with this behaviour is that it'd have the exact opposite effect.
21:26 <Cepheid> It puts the product in question at the forefront of the minds of the viewers. It puts the object in question into their brains, their memory.
21:26 <Cepheid> It may have a negative conotation at the point of viewing, but because of the influx of information we receive on a daily basis, we will likely forget about that negative connection, it won't be cemented.
21:26 <Cepheid> But the name of the product, the image? That's more easily retained.
21:27 <Cepheid> So, the next time you stop by a location owned by company A, subconsciously your brain might notice product X, and you will feel compelled to buy it
21:27 <Cepheid> By making memes and complaining about it using such simple methods, you are thereby giving company A free advertising for product X.
21:27 <Cepheid> It's like word-of-mouth spreading.
21:28 <Cepheid> You get people talking about it. Sure, it's in a negative sense, but they are STILL TALKING ABOUT IT.
21:34 <_jimm> somethings things are just fun to make fun of
21:34 <_jimm> like that whole snuggie business
21:36 * Dappled remembers to go buy a snuggie.
21:36 <Cepheid> I mean, sure.
21:37 * Ali hijacks Dappled
21:37 <Cepheid> But if you don't want it to survive, you kind of need to stop giving it attention. It's called negative publicity, sure, but it doesn't necessarily mean that it's bad for the product, person, company, etc.
21:37 <Cepheid> You're still giving it attention, spreading the word about it, whether negative or positive.
21:37 <Cepheid> Which is what advertisers want. Personally, they'd prefer positive advertisement, but if they can still get it to spread, even with some negative publicity, it'll help in the end.
21:37 * Dappled has been stolen by the Ali.
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21:38 * Ali snugs the Dappled so much
21:38 * Dappled snuggles Ali back as he organizes his pokemon. Needs to know what he needs to evolve/breed for his living dex.
21:38 <Cepheid> A game has a controversy. Suddenly, it went from being relatively unknown to all over every single gaming news website.
21:39 <Cepheid> And despite the controversy, people are going to want to check it out.
21:39 <Cepheid> The gains here likely outweigh the losses.
21:47 <Ali> Is this why EA won't give up on the loot boxes?
21:48 <Dappled> Oh Lootboxes are far to profitable. The phone game industry regularly outperforms console/pc games on profit because of them .
21:48 * Ali flops into Dappled, asks them what should she do in Pokemon Sword, she gets stuck due to team weaknesses but she's heavily overleveled by now.
21:49 <Cepheid> And the reason there is slightly different.
21:49 <Dappled> Quick balls Ali.
21:49 <Cepheid> Mobile games are targeted at children, who they rely on not having a grasp of finances, money, etc.
21:49 <Ali> Dappled, I mean that the gyms and trainers
21:49 <Cepheid> And they also rely on those who have gambling problems.
21:49 <Ali> I'm almost to level 40 before the 4th gym
21:49 <Ali> Of course
21:50 <Ali> This is why people blew 500 pounds trying to get Messi in FIFA
21:51 <Cepheid> In the end, it's these two groups that primarily give rise to the popularity of loot boxes. So long as both groups continue to be targeted, and they continue to provide, loot boxes will remain.
21:52 <Cepheid> That, or until the government decides to stop being corrupt, and pass legislation banning the concept.
21:52 * Dappled laughs.
21:53 <Dappled> But what about muh Freeeeeedom!
21:54 <Cepheid> It's an interesting conflict, that argument. Yes, you have the freedom to do what you want with your money, but by spending it, you limit your freedom of choice. You have fewer choices because you have less money, therefore, less freedom.
21:54 <Dappled> but that was by my choice, not the gov't telling me I couldn't.
21:55 <Dappled> And that's the easy way to get people on the side of such terrible practices.
21:58 <Cepheid> Funny thing is, even being aware of this, I still sometimes fall into the traps I mentioned above.
21:58 <Cepheid> Side effect of constantly thinking, I think.
21:58 <RichardMist> Ali is still fresh as I see
21:58 * Ali headtilts
21:59 <Cepheid> I'm always thinking about something, so it's easy to distract me from a previously-discussed topic.
21:59 <RichardMist> Oh, it was that bad?
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22:09 <Finwe> o3o
22:10 <Finwe> Mlles Ali, Cepheid, DashedRainbows and Schism; Messrs Dappled, Golden and RichardMist.
22:10 * Finwe doffs his hat.
22:10 <Cepheid> Finwe.
22:11 * Dappled waves.
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22:15 * RichardMist *bows over Finwe*
22:21 <Cepheid> So, you know, something occurred to me.
22:22 <Cepheid> It's obvious that my temper and mood can go haywire from practically any little detail and such, and as such, talking about my problems or what's bothering me may not necessarily help.
22:22 <Cepheid> But what could help, is discussing how I feel when my mind starts acting up under various situations.
22:22 <RichardMist> Cepheid, are you telling that to Finwe?
22:23 <Cepheid> Just speaking aloud in general actually. To no one in particular.
22:23 <RichardMist> I will always be glad to hear anything from you
22:24 <RichardMist> And will andways try to help anybody in various situations as much as I can
22:24 <Cepheid> In other words, rather than discuss the triggers for my mood swings, discuss how my brain and body seems to be acting during those mood swings. Something about them might help indicate what, exactly, is going on in my brain.
22:27 <RichardMist> I can try to understand it, but results may not be as expected
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23:02 <ADragonDreaming> Aye, that sounds potentially useful, Cepheid. If there is something physiological/neurological going on
23:07 <RichardMist> Yes, I will be very glad to help him
23:10 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Animatic - Punishment Game [ https://tinyurl.com/y53qfd4m ]
23:16 <Cepheid> Hum.. what difficulty should I start Ys Origin on...? Is there anything for doing Nightmare?
23:17 <Cepheid> Doesn't look like it.
23:18 <RichardMist> Ys Origin, hmm, haven't played it yet
23:23 <Cepheid> Whelp, time to climb the hell that is Darm Tower once more. Did it before, in an earlier Ys game, will do it again. I'll even put up with... *THAT*... floor.
23:32 <Cepheid> Basic gist: One loooooooooooooooong hallway, and a single room. And the most dreadful music ever. The hallway floor is covered in strange tiling. So long as the music is playing, stepping on the floor will drain your health rapidly.
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23:35 <RichardMist> Oh gosh, again my internet
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23:56 <Schism> Mlrhlergn.
23:58 <Schism> So, tomorrow morning, there'll be a power outage...
23:58 <Schism> Let my bosses know, they're aware, but no changes have yet been made to my schedule, so I'm still going to have to wake up at 6:30 and see if that's gone through.
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