00:05 <Cepheid> ... Word of the wise, if you're waiting on a monster who's near it's resting place, and the bugs in the area are bugging you...
00:05 <Cepheid> Don't throw a flash bomb. The monster freaks out and changes it's plans.
00:05 <Cepheid> The vespoids were getting annoying, so I flashbombed them while Viper was in the next area over. He dropped his food, ran over into the area, looked around worried, then ran off, disrupting the photo I was about to take.
00:07 <Schism> Yeesh.
00:09 <Cepheid> Now I have to wait for him to get hungry again.
00:10 <Cepheid> ...
00:10 <Cepheid> And he just went to sleep in front of me.
00:11 <Cepheid> Fun note, when you don't move, and you're crouching, the Ghillie Mantle+ pretty much lasts forever.
00:13 <Cepheid> He slept for all of one minute. Viper confirmed for rare breed of cat.
00:15 <Schism> Really, Nintendo? Sephiroth?
00:15 <Cepheid> Are you really that surprised?
00:15 <ADragonDreaming> Sors Immanis! Et Inanis!
00:17 <Cepheid> There.
00:17 <Cepheid> Got the picture.
00:17 <Schism> Well, I'm not _surprised_, per se. I knew it was probably going to happen sometime.
00:17 <Cepheid> *This isn't what I want!* .... *Stabbing*
00:18 <Cepheid> There we go.
00:18 <Cepheid> Two more left.
00:19 <Cepheid> ... These last two are going to be a problem.
00:19 <Cepheid> First one requires me getting a picture of Velkhana attacking a Cortos with a breath attack.
00:19 <Cepheid> Second one requires me to get a picture of Zinogre in the Ancient Forest, at the west side of Area 1, on a rock, howling at the moon.
00:20 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Fanfiction (Scouted): Scrambled Serenity [ https://tinyurl.com/y4uchz7x ]
00:22 <Cepheid> My best bet is to basically do a quest targeting the specific monster in the given area, and then carefully and patiently wait in an area where it's known to do it's thing.
00:24 <Schism> How to sell a VAX: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eo6FpDOVgAEq9VI?format=jpg&name=medium
00:25 <Schism> Rudy, I should very much like to see the people who go around passing USB ports to one another.
00:25 <Schism> That would be quite something to witness.
00:26 <Cepheid> ... Does Zinogre even spawn in the Ancient Forest?
00:27 <ADragonDreaming> I don't know via Expedition.
00:27 <ADragonDreaming> You might need an Investigation to make that happen.
00:28 <ADragonDreaming> I'mma check my stable of investigations for Zinny boi
00:28 <Cepheid> Yeah, I'm simply not seeing it. Hum. There's an investigation to hunt a Tempered Zinogre that takes place in the Ancient Forest.
00:28 <Cepheid> Er, event quest*
00:29 <Cepheid> Which might be enough.
00:29 * Finwe noms on Ali's tail.
00:29 * Ali squeaks at Finwe
00:30 * Finwe applies petroleum jelly to Ali in hopes of putting an end to the squeaking.
00:30 * Ali will always squeak
00:31 <Cepheid> ...
00:31 <Cepheid> Thanks, game.
00:31 <Cepheid> For starting me right in front of the Zinogre I was planning to be sneaky around.
00:33 <Finwe> In the beginning, the earth was void and without form, but inside the brittle crust massive forces waited to be unleashed … to build a legacy that would stand the test of time: Squeakyvilization.
00:33 <Schism> Dung bomb and flee?
00:33 <Finwe> Oh, it's my birthday tomorrow.
00:35 <Finwe> Oh, and I forgot, "But the sun shone upon the sleeping earth, and inside the brittle crust …"
00:35 <Finwe> Has been ages since I last played Civ I.
00:51 <RichardMist> Finwe, so your birthday will be tomorrow?
01:00 <RichardMist> mhm, okay
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01:08 * Schism offers some pones some thick-sliced potato wedges with plutonium.
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01:10 * RichardMist *noms PinkieShy's snoot*
01:20 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Say Something Nice About Daring Do [ https://tinyurl.com/y6zgw7fq ]
01:20 <Schism> Fish and chips are a fine meal. o3o
01:23 <Lumindia> SO
01:23 <Lumindia> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0bTeKl_UEA
01:23 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.
01:23 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Super Smash Bros Ultimate Sephiroth Reveal Trailer - Final Fantasy (Game Awards 2020)
01:23 <Lumindia> I can't.. what
01:24 <Schism> I'm sure it was bound to happen. Shame they'll never have, say, Zidane or Dagger as a playable character. Or even Squall.
01:26 <RichardMist> lol, Sephiroth
01:32 <Schism> Or, best of all... Gilgamesh!
01:35 <RichardMist> gigamesh, ye
01:36 <RichardMist> Sephiroth is like, oh, let's take a random one
01:39 <RichardMist> That reminds me Soul Calibur
01:46 * RichardMist *yawns*
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02:47 * Schism hums. Noms a third clementine orange. They're smol, but tasty.
02:56 <Cepheid> We just killed a Stygian Zinoger by running him off a platform and causing him to face-plant into the ground.
02:56 <ADragonDreaming> Well, that's the most interesting slaying move on a monster I've ever had.
02:58 <Cepheid> https://i.imgur.com/Sy3Lb2O.png "It was at that moment that he knew, he [REDACTED] up."
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04:03 <Schism> ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wason_selection_task#/media/File:Wason_selection_task_cards.svg )
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05:26 <Cepheid> It appears that Monster Hunter: Rise takes place in a much more.... recent timeframe.
05:27 <Cepheid> https://twitter.com/MH_Rise_JP/status/1337216743916224512
06:32 <ADragonDreaming> Recent timeframe?
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07:53 <Golden> I wish my neck would stop hurting.
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09:16 <ConfusionRift> Hello everypony... (flops hard)
09:24 <Golden> Hello
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09:44 * ConfusionRift huggles Ali.
09:45 <PinkieShy> Okay this game is interesting..
09:45 <PinkieShy> Its a freebie but the storyline has sparked my interest now. character is a cop that died
09:46 <PinkieShy> It's called summerland and its on steam if anyone is wondering :P
10:11 <ConfusionRift> Does look kinda interesting.
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11:10 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Vinyl Has Green Eyes in New My Little Pony Smashin’ Fashion Party 2-Pack [ https://tinyurl.com/y2pqpmjy ]
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13:52 <Finwe> !flip
13:52 * DerpyBot flips a muffin
13:52 * DerpyBot catches the muffin with her hoof, upside down
13:53 <Finwe> o3o
13:53 <Finwe> Happy birthday, everypony!
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14:10 <RichardMist> Finwe, happy birthday, I wish you the happiness, health, have the best birthday, and to make all your wishes come true
14:10 <Finwe> Thank you, Mr RichardMist.
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14:11 <Finwe> In other news, it's snowing!
14:11 <Finwe> Yay!
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14:18 <Cyan_Spark> Razor the investor
14:18 <Cyan_Spark> Hi Finwe
14:19 <RichardMist> I'm vvery glad that it's snowing from your side
14:19 <RichardMist> Hoi Cyan_Spark, how are you?
14:19 <Cyan_Spark> Am alright
14:19 <RazorSharpFang> Hey heys.
14:22 <RichardMist> Hoi, RazorSharpFang, how are you?
14:22 <RazorSharpFang> I'm glad it's Friday. It's Friday evening here in Australia.
14:23 <Finwe> Hullo, Cyan_Spark.
14:23 <Cyan_Spark> Friday night for me too
14:24 <Finwe> Friday afternoon, and my birthday. :3
14:24 <Finwe> Because of the pandemy, no birthday party, though.
14:24 <Cyan_Spark> Happy birthday!
14:25 <Cyan_Spark> And thanks for being responsible c:
14:25 <Finwe> Thank you.
14:25 <Finwe> I still need to go out and do some shopping. See you later, everypony!
14:25 * Finwe flies off.
14:28 <Cyan_Spark> Be safe!
14:30 <Cyan_Spark> ding
14:34 <RazorSharpFang> Red market today
14:39 <Cyan_Spark> really? I must be in the WSB bubble
14:39 <Cyan_Spark> Seeing green all over
14:41 <RazorSharpFang> YOLO is up, TAN is up, O is up, K is up, ICLN is up and GE is up. Everyone else in my portfolio is down.
14:41 <Cyan_Spark> lol
14:43 <Cyan_Spark> Oh, they do Cannabis
14:46 <Cyan_Spark> Today's stocks terminology is Bollinger Bands®
14:46 <Cyan_Spark> I like Yahoo Finance, the chart patterns teach me something new about patterns every day
14:48 <RazorSharpFang> Yahoo Finance is genuinely a good product.
14:48 <Cyan_Spark> Apart from "Bullish", "Bearish", and "Neutral", you see things like "Fast Stochastic", "MACD", "Momentum", "Price Crosses Moving Average", "Triple Moving Average Crossover" from time to time
14:48 <Cyan_Spark> It feels like I'm collecting trading cards lol
14:57 <RazorSharpFang> JKS is down 6% today. Was almost down 8% at one point.
15:00 <Cyan_Spark> Flash Crash, anyone?
15:01 <Cyan_Spark> "JinkoSolar's stock falls after plans for $100 million ADS offering"
15:01 <RazorSharpFang> Yeah, it was looking pretty bleak for a moment there.
15:01 <RazorSharpFang> My maximum profit level is 60 @ Jan'15
15:04 <Cyan_Spark> Dead cat bounce or reversal? Always the million-dollar question
15:05 <RazorSharpFang> I still find that term hilarious.
15:05 <Lumindia> "Automated Defense System"?
15:05 <Lumindia> are we back in the binding coils? @Cyan_Spark
15:05 <Cyan_Spark> miaow
15:06 <Cyan_Spark> Whatever do you mean, Lumindia?
15:06 <Lumindia> one moment
15:07 <Lumindia> https://i.imgur.com/7fxBVXm.png
15:07 <Lumindia> that's the ADS
15:07 <Cyan_Spark> Oh, huh
15:07 <Cyan_Spark> I don't know, but I can look it up!
15:08 <Cyan_Spark> "The company said late Tuesday that it may sell the American depositary shares (ADS) from time to time, at market prices or at prices negotiated with its sales agents."
15:09 <Lumindia> ah okay
15:09 <Cyan_Spark> Wow, an EPS of 1.29 for JKS, who'd they insult? XD
15:09 <RazorSharpFang> Might be ongoing trade tensions with China etc
15:10 <Cyan_Spark> Biden isn't expected to go easy
15:11 <Cyan_Spark> Wonder what caused the run up from Sep 2 to Oct 14
15:12 <RazorSharpFang> No idea.
15:12 <Cyan_Spark> Oh, the DOW's under 30k again
15:16 <RichardMist> Hoi, Lumindia, how are you today?
15:16 <Lumindia> eh, fine
15:16 <Lumindia> get me a gun, I"m tired of christmas music
15:16 <RichardMist> Ok, glad to hear that
15:17 <RazorSharpFang> Cyan_Spark, any idea which industry companies like JKS FSLR fall into?
15:17 <Cyan_Spark> Solar?
15:17 <RazorSharpFang> Is solar under energy or industrials?
15:21 <RazorSharpFang> Turns out it's under Technology
15:21 <Cyan_Spark> Mmm?
15:23 <RichardMist> Hey Lumindia, what's with Angeline?
15:28 * Cepheid works on final test for Japanese. o3o
15:31 * Lumindia shrug
15:33 * Cepheid puts on Metal while working on work. o3o
15:33 <Cepheid> Crush all the metal.
15:33 <Lumindia> Embrace the metal
15:33 <Lumindia> Control the metal
15:33 <Lumindia> Work the metal!
15:42 <RichardMist> Hey Cepheid, how are you today?
15:42 <Cepheid> Good. Busy at the moment though.
15:42 <Schism> Yeow, ouch. ._.
15:43 <RichardMist> Oh, okay
15:43 * Schism wakes up, passes Lumindia a hammer.
15:43 <Lumindia> o vo
15:44 <RichardMist> Hey, Schism, how is it going?
15:44 * Schism yawns, also.
15:44 <Schism> Tired. But I needed the additional sleep, so I'll be better once I wake back up.
15:46 * Schism snickers... "Don't think Liz was trying to help there, Mae."
15:51 * Cepheid adds an English note to her writing part of the test. Mostly just to indicate how she transliterated a place name, as she could not find it in a dictionary. o3o
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16:03 <RazorSharpFang> Off to sleep good night.
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16:06 <ADragonDreaming> What place, out of curiosity?
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16:08 <Cepheid> Iqaluit.
16:09 <Cepheid> It's pronounced ee-cow-loo-eet, approximately.
16:09 <Cepheid> Aaaaaaand DONE!
16:10 <Schism> Can't imagine why a small village in Nunavut wouldn't appear in an English-to-Japanese dictionary.
16:10 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Makenshi: PINKIE Music: Harmonic Six - Party Pie [Electronic/Pop] [ https://tinyurl.com/y4kzewdj ]
16:10 <Schism> (Aside from the fact that it's a term from the First Nations and therefore not English in the first place.)
16:11 * Cepheid imagine after having said "Aaaaaaand DONE!" that Dionie, ADra's MHWorld hunter comes running up and does the SAFE! emote.
16:11 * Cepheid then gets smacked by a phial discharge.
16:12 <ADragonDreaming> hahah
16:12 <RichardMist> Cool game
16:16 <Cepheid> Heh, speaking of World. The other day, I saw one of the more interesting "You did good" behaviors out of a player in a video.
16:17 <ADragonDreaming> TIL: https://i.imgur.com/Bf0qTsh.jpg
16:17 <Cepheid> The group was fighting Fatalis, who was in the process of doing it's ultimate attack. One of the players was a bit slow, and the others tried to wait to let them get to safety, but they couldn't wait any longer. So they fired up the protections, which locked the other player out of safety, who then proceeded to use a thumbs up sticker as he carted.
16:18 <ADragonDreaming> Hahaha, I think I've seen that one
16:18 <Schism> Waste of good pancakes...
16:18 <Schism> Also, hah.
16:18 <Cepheid> It was better to have one person cart than all four.
16:18 <Cepheid> That attack though..
16:18 <ADragonDreaming> Might also have been a Terminator reference.
16:18 <Cepheid> That too.
16:19 <ADragonDreaming> Fatalis is going to be ... fun.
16:19 <Cepheid> Fatalis' ult is like... "How in the hell do these people survive in this world?"
16:19 <Cepheid> "That dragon just melted a two-foot thick PLATE OF STEEL."
16:19 <ADragonDreaming> I have a theory.
16:20 <ADragonDreaming> Monster Hunter is actually set thousands of years into the future, in the Marvel Universe. After multiple galactic crises, the only humans still alive are those that descended from Wolverine.
16:20 <Cepheid> Heh.
16:20 <Cepheid> Also, by the way, what I meant by my comment last night with respect to the new trailer.
16:21 <Cepheid> I was commenting with respect to the locales, the architecture, and the general theme. It gives a strong impression of being set on Earth within the last millenium or two.
16:21 <Cepheid> Whereas all the rest give the impression of much further in the past, or possibly far into the future past an apocalypse.
16:22 <ADragonDreaming> Ah. Well, playing MH P3rd, Yukumo put me in mind of Japan in the age of Steam ships.
16:22 <ADragonDreaming> Which is the 1800's.
16:22 <Cepheid> Yeah, admittedly there is that.
16:23 <RichardMist> It's a very interesting magic world with various things
16:23 <Cepheid> It's supposed to be set on Earth, or, at the least, an Earth-like world. But the general timeline of each game seems to be all over the place.
16:24 <Cepheid> One thing that caught my attention in that trailer.
16:24 <Cepheid> The players are on their palamutes in town.
16:24 <ADragonDreaming> I have a thought that airships like the one in Generations are very much "super prototypes"
16:24 <Cepheid> Also, using all their tools around town, including wirebugs.
16:25 <ADragonDreaming> more accessible airship technology is the style seen in World, which is somewhat comparable, just less... S.H.I.E.L.D super carrier.
16:25 <Cepheid> Heh.
16:25 <RichardMist> When there will be games with neural physics?
16:25 <Cepheid> They're working on it, Richard.
16:25 <Cepheid> Last I saw, they were managing to get people to control a drone with a neural interface.
16:26 <RichardMist> I am waiting for about 2 years for it
16:26 <Cepheid> Yeah, it's gonna be longer than that.
16:26 <Cepheid> It's nice to see that leviathans and the snakes are coming back for Rise.
16:26 <RichardMist> An incredibly effective thing in everything
16:26 <Cepheid> Those were two classes I would have loved to see in World, but it never happened.
16:26 <Cepheid> Wait, neural interfaces, or AI learning, Richard?
16:27 <Cepheid> Do you mean like, machine learning with an AI that develops according to the players? Or controlling characters with your brain?
16:27 <ADragonDreaming> yeah, what do we mean by Neural Physics, here?
16:28 <RichardMist> neural physics
16:28 <RichardMist> Cepheid
16:28 <ADragonDreaming> What *is* neural physics?
16:28 <Cepheid> Describe in simpler terms what neural physics is.
16:28 <Cepheid> I think there's a language barrier issue here.
16:28 <RichardMist> oh, you don't know?
16:28 <RichardMist> nope
16:28 <ADragonDreaming> We would rather not guess.
16:29 <Cepheid> Richard, I do not mean to be rude in asking this, if it happens to sound that way, but what is your native/mother language?
16:29 <RichardMist> Sources have already appeared about a year ago
16:30 <RichardMist> Let me show you
16:30 <Cepheid> Yeah, that would be a better idea.
16:30 <RichardMist> That thing called Subspace Neural Physics
16:30 <RichardMist> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_DhNqHazKY
16:31 <Cepheid> ... Oh!
16:31 <Cepheid> Neural Networks.
16:31 <Cepheid> That's machine learning.
16:31 <Cepheid> Yeah, that may start appearing in games in the next decade or so.
16:31 <ADragonDreaming> Aye, this is still at proof of concept stages, these things.
16:31 <RichardMist> Yeah, physics on machine learning, about ~300x effective than basic physics
16:31 <Cepheid> Using neural networks to handle physics and motion.
16:32 <Cepheid> Yeah, but the problem is that it's hard to compute.
16:32 <RichardMist> This is why I want a powerful machine to experiment with that
16:32 <Cepheid> Right now, neural networks and machine learning require a lot of power.
16:32 <RichardMist> But way effective that basic physics
16:32 <RichardMist> than*
16:33 <Cepheid> Oh, definitely. It's more accurate and effective, but at the cost of the immense processing power required.
16:33 <Cepheid> It'll be a few years more before we can start using that sort of stuff on everyday computers.
16:33 <RichardMist> oh, this is wrong video
16:33 <RichardMist> here's the right one : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atcKO15YVD8
16:33 <Cepheid> As it is, even DLSS and FidelityFX CAS took several years to get where it is.
16:34 <Cepheid> Huh. 2019.
16:34 <RichardMist> computing physics in microseconds, isn't that exciting?!
16:34 <Cepheid> And in microseconds. Impressive.
16:35 <RichardMist> As I told the sources are already opened about 1 year ago and nobody is using that
16:35 <Cepheid> Probably because of the cost of integration.
16:35 <Cepheid> As well as time invested.
16:36 <RichardMist> I don't know, but this is way effective than custom buggy physics
16:36 <Cepheid> Mmm. I won't deny that. But there's probably lots of costs involved that we're not considering.
16:36 <Cepheid> I think a lot of it is the training cost.
16:37 <Cepheid> The video seems to suggest it only worked with a small subset of materials and objects.
16:37 <Cepheid> And that training took quite a bit of time.
16:37 <ADragonDreaming> Machine learning requires a lot of time investment.
16:37 <Cepheid> Extending it to a lot more materials, objects and the like takes time.
16:37 <ADragonDreaming> And, to my understanding, it's trained to a specific purpose
16:38 <ADragonDreaming> so the wider applicability of machine learning isn't there yet, to the point where it would be useful for games.
16:38 <Cepheid> He even expresses that, if the training data is lacking, that the system won't work as expected.
16:38 <Cepheid> So, yes, the issue here is training.
16:39 <Cepheid> But, it does show promise
16:39 <RichardMist> Cepheid,I am already played physics simulation game and experienced a huge amount of bugs crasher and that game is alpha stage and already minimum requirements GTX 1070?!
16:39 <Cepheid> Yep.
16:39 <Cepheid> You're missing the point here though.
16:39 <Cepheid> There is a time investment in training the neural network.
16:40 <RichardMist> Yep, the training will take a huge amount of time based on physics data but it's worth it
16:40 <Cepheid> It is.
16:40 <Cepheid> But the time investment is what's the limiting factor right now.
16:40 <Cepheid> To account for a large number of the various situations we use physics engines/libraries for, it could take a few years worth of training.
16:40 <ADragonDreaming> You also have to get executives and the money people to sign on to use it.
16:41 <Cepheid> Alternatively, less time can be spent for specific scenarios expected in a game. But it's still going to be a long time.
16:41 <ADragonDreaming> With the understanding of it being a long term investment.
16:41 <Cepheid> Plus, you have to train it with the right data.
16:41 <Cepheid> It's better to use a cheaper, simpler approach right now, until the training for the neural network is more robust, complete, and efficient.
16:41 <RichardMist> I don't like basic physics because of the huge amount of resources used in the simulation
16:42 <Cepheid> As someone who does gamedev, I understand that concern, yes.
16:42 <Cepheid> The physics stuff is extremely difficult.
16:43 <RichardMist> This is not the right thing, because there will be games that will require higher and higher resources, so Subspace Neural Physics is the reight choice for future
16:43 <RichardMist> right*
16:45 <RichardMist> Yeah, 1+ days to learn, very slow
16:45 <Cepheid> Mmhmm.
16:45 <RichardMist> And depends on physics data
16:45 <ADragonDreaming> Potentially. But again, you have to sell the executives and the money people of the companies that can potentially afford it on that.
16:45 <ADragonDreaming> The shortsightedness of executives should never be underestimated.
16:46 <Cepheid> Oh, off-topic, by the by. ADragonDreaming, January, we're getting an MH:Rise demo.
16:46 <ADragonDreaming> oh aye?
16:46 <Cepheid> Mmhmm. No specific date. Just January.
16:47 <RichardMist> ADragonDreaming, yes, but the future in basic physics slowly goes to zero
16:47 <Cepheid> Ye know. On one hand, given the oriental nature of the town and some of the areas in the game, I'd be totally fine if the voices weren't translated to English, and there was subtitling for everything.
16:47 <Cepheid> On the other hand, it would be odd in this day and age.
16:48 <ADragonDreaming> World lets you choose which audio track you use.
16:48 <ADragonDreaming> Schism plays with Japanese audio.
16:48 <RichardMist> I'm experiencing more and more physical crashes/glitches in new games
16:48 <Cepheid> Mmhmm.
16:48 <Cepheid> Yeah, the physics problems of current games are starting to show themselves due to the nature of improving hardware.
16:48 * Schism does indeed. o3o "Subtitles are fine."
16:49 <ADragonDreaming> I would only see Rise as not including the option if there was a space concern.
16:49 <Cepheid> Many games expect a certain maximum framerate, and will handle physics from any framerate of 0 to N, where N is that maximum framerate, just fine.
16:49 <Cepheid> But exceed it, and you get the Skyrim opening.
16:49 <RichardMist> Cepheid, this is going nowhere because it became only worse by time
16:49 <Cepheid> Yes, Richard.
16:49 <Cepheid> I'm not denying that it's broken as ****.
16:50 <Cepheid> But you have to consider the costs in time, training, money and effort involved.
16:50 <RichardMist> About from 0 to N framerate, yes, it's very dumb thing
16:50 <Cepheid> Currently, there are complete physics engines out there, that do the job to a satisfactory degree, if they are used right. They're easy to implement, I assume.
16:51 <Cepheid> But a completely new technology, which has only just appeared within the last year or two, and needs an extensive amount of training, is much harder to implement and use.
16:51 <Cepheid> It also costs more in terms of time and money.
16:51 <RichardMist> Cepheid,I think we should wait for this neural physics thing to get better
16:52 <Cepheid> And what would you have developers do in the meantime while we wait? Just sit around waiting for the solution, rather than designing and implementing the game with current solutions?
16:52 <RichardMist> And about complete physics engines, without learning there will be always glitches no matter how perfect the engine is
16:52 <Cepheid> I'm no businessman/woman, but that sounds like a poor idea, and a good way for a lot of people to lose their jobs in favour of keeping the company afloat.
16:52 <RichardMist> Cepheid, to use what they have
16:53 <Cepheid> Yep.
16:53 <Cepheid> And that's why currently, we're still using the older, buggier approach.
16:53 <Cepheid> It works for the time being until the new technology can improve, and prove itself.
16:53 <Cepheid> Once that happens in a few years or so, we'll probably start switching over.
16:53 <RichardMist> I can't suggest something that I can't improve
16:53 <Cepheid> Basically, it's a waiting and patience case.
16:54 <RichardMist> yep
16:55 <Cepheid> ADragonDreaming: More likely, for physical release, the game's cartridge will include the local region's language, with the rest of the languages as a download, as for some reason Nintendo's cartridge capacity seems.. weird.
16:55 <Cepheid> There's more games out there than I'd like to admit that make use of both the cartridge itself, and a separate download in order to work.
16:56 <Cepheid> Nintendo was planning to release 64GB cartridges back in 2018, but that got delayed to 2019, then 2020.
16:56 <Cepheid> I have no idea if they met that target.
16:57 <Cepheid> I actually wonder what the read/write specs are on the cartridges, that Nintendo would choose to design an inhouse cartridge over say, a modified, read-only version of SD card tech.
16:57 <Cepheid> Because current SD card tech is wild. We're up to terabytes, now.
16:58 <ADragonDreaming> I suspect it has more to do with Nintendo's desire to control everything.
16:58 <RichardMist> But still I see a potential in pre-rendered physics, like games with a lot physics animations, and I can only tell that
16:58 <RichardMist> I don't know what's going on with Nintendo, so strange things happening with it
16:59 <Schism> Whee. Finally the paperwork to transfer doctors has been completed on the clinic's side of things, so I'll be going in, in a few hours, to clear up the signatures on my end.
16:59 <Cepheid> I dunno, but Nintendo's getting a lot of flak as of late for a number of various reasons. I suspect another year or two and Nintendo may have a problem on it's hand that it'll have to acknowledge and deal with.
16:59 <Cepheid> https://twitter.com/monsterhunter/status/1337216108172955650 Also, ADra, the english trailer.
17:00 <Cepheid> ALso, now that I'm done of my Japanese class, I feel like the rock that's been crushing me has just rolled off into nopesville to meet up with Fatalis, who then melted it.
17:00 <ADragonDreaming> awesome
17:01 <Cepheid> Sometime this weekend ADra, I'd like to poke Safi'jiva, even if it'll murder us in doing so.
17:01 <Cepheid> Or Kulve Taroth.
17:02 <Cepheid> I have yet to fight her.
17:02 <ADragonDreaming> Well, recently they decided to C&D a smash tournament over some nonsense.
17:02 <RichardMist> Schism, I am so happy for you
17:02 <ADragonDreaming> then they canceled a splatoon tournament, likely due to participating teams using names that protested the C&D of the smash tournament.
17:02 <Cepheid> Yeah, I heard about that C&D.
17:02 <Cepheid> Eeeyup. Consequences of their behavior and mentality.
17:03 <ADragonDreaming> And they're DMCAing posts of Nintendo game music, without providing any easy legal alternative to just listen to the music
17:03 <ADragonDreaming> so, yeah, they're being Nintendo and ticking off their fans.
17:03 <Cepheid> Meanwhile, Sega's over in the other corner just trolling Nintendo.
17:03 <Cepheid> "Hey yeah, I'll be right back, I need to go issue some DMCA takedowns." *Several line breaks* "Nah, just kidding, keep making awesome stuff people."
17:03 <RichardMist> New monster hunter, cool
17:04 <RichardMist> Cepheid, okay, good luck
17:09 <ADragonDreaming> I approve of Sega trolling Nintendo over this.
17:10 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Episode Rewatch - Season 5 Episode 7 - 8 - Make New Friends... / Griffonstone [ https://tinyurl.com/y2octovu ]
17:10 <ADragonDreaming> The more people mock them for the activity, the more shame heaped upon the company for it, the greater the chance they'll stop.
17:11 <ADragonDreaming> Even if it is within their legal right to do it, mockery remains the appropriate response.
17:14 <RichardMist> Stupidly throw at each other like children
17:14 <ADragonDreaming> Kulve Taroth should be doable, even if it's just us 2. The siege might be difficult, but we can try that. Can also do the event quest to slay in high-rank as an intro.
17:14 <RichardMist> Stupid competition
17:15 <ADragonDreaming> Nah, competition is good.
17:15 <ADragonDreaming> Within the realm of business.
17:22 <RichardMist> Yeah, but this is stupid, SEGA or Nintendo, this is the war of infinity
17:27 <Cepheid> Sorry for the quietness.
17:27 <Cepheid> Mother came to check up on me.
17:27 <Cepheid> We had a bit of a discussion about all sorts of things.
17:29 <Cepheid> While not directly encouraging me to continue my current direction in university, she thinks it's a good idea for me to at least do the final exams next week for the two remaining courses, and to at least register in the next Japanese language class for the next semester. For the remaining two courses of that semester, pick some easy throwaway courses that aren't directly in my field, that I am interested in. General
17:29 <Cepheid> electives, sort of.
17:29 <Cepheid> If I pass the other two courses this semester, I pass, if not, oh well.
17:29 <Cepheid> This way, I still at least fulfill my obligations to OSAP and the Ontario government for the CERB and that's one less bit of stress on my head,
17:30 <Cepheid> But if something happens with the university admin this time around, my parents are to deal with it, not me.
17:30 <ADragonDreaming> Makes sense to me.
17:30 <Cepheid> In fact, with that in mind..
17:31 * Cepheid goes to bug the registrar's office to ask how one might authorize certain individuals to have complete access to their records, because the university tried to pull the "You don't have authorization to that information" card on her mother back when dealing with the prescription coverage stuff. That's why I got involved.
17:35 <Cepheid> Interesting tidbit.
17:35 <Cepheid> The school's e-mail system considers it's own "You have submitted your assignment" e-mails to be phishing or scam e-mails.
17:37 <Cepheid> Well, with that in mind, I guess I should at least do some studying.
17:38 <Cepheid> ... And maybe try to at least complete the last assignment of the Principles of Networking course, which was pushed back to tomorrow evening.
17:39 <Cepheid> ... "C-20.pdf" "C-20-revised.pdf" "C-20-revised-revised.pdf" - List of assignment files for the last assignment.
17:39 <Cepheid> I'm expecting a C-20-revised-revised-revised.pdf" by tomorrow evening.
17:40 <Cepheid> If I'm going to do this though, I need to get one key, important detail in my mind.
17:40 <Cepheid> If I pass, I pass. If I fail, I fail. I wasn't planning on continuing to finish this in the first place after a couple weeks ago anyways, so if I fail, it's not the end of the world.
17:40 <Cepheid> So don't stress out.
17:49 <ADragonDreaming> Exactly.
17:50 <Cepheid> ... I... don't know what this question is asking in this assignment. The description feels like it's missing key information.
17:52 <RichardMist> Cepheid, I believe in you, you WILL pass
17:53 * Cepheid thinks about this. "I have a hub/star network of k + 1 omnidirectional sensors, with that + 1 sensor being at the center. All sensors have identical radius. All k sensors are not within range of one another, only the central sensor. Show that if all sensors have the same range, then k <= 5.
17:54 <Cepheid> ... Oooh.
17:54 <Cepheid> I think I know what it's asking for.
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17:55 <Cepheid> It wants me to prove that the maximum number of sensors, without them overlapping one another except for the central sensor, is five or less.
17:55 <ADragonDreaming> Ah. Yes, that tracks.
17:55 <Cepheid> This is a geometry problem.
17:56 <ADragonDreaming> areas of circles!
17:56 <ADragonDreaming> I have vague ideas of how to start but lack the tools to really try.
17:56 <Cepheid> I know how to prove it mathematically, I just... I can't describe it in words.
17:57 <ADragonDreaming> fortunately, you only have to describe it in math.
17:57 <Cepheid> I can't do that either, though.
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17:59 <Cepheid> I'd have an easier time expressing it by doing say "Okay, so here are the points of a 5-sided polygon circumscribed on a circle. The points indicate a sensor, and are equidistant from one another. The length of each edge is greater than or equal to 1. Now here's a 6-sided polygon, <same information here>, but the radius of each edge is less than 1, and therefore there would be overlap."
18:00 <Cepheid> If the length of a given edge is less than the radius of 1, there is overlap. Thus, the simplest way to prove if k must be less than or equal to 5, is to show the line lengths for k = 5, and k = 6. If the line length for k = 6 is equal to or greater than 1, then k can be 6 or greater, and thus k <= 5 is false.
18:01 <Cepheid> It's not exactly a proper proof, though.
18:02 <Cepheid> Interestingly, despite knowing how to prove this in the above manner, my intuition tells me that k <= 5 does not hold given the details provided.
18:03 <Cepheid> It'd have to be k <= 4.
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18:13 <ADragonDreaming> wait
18:14 <ADragonDreaming> so, for it to work, the length of the polygon's side, divided by 2, must equal the radius of the sensor's range
18:14 <Cepheid> Hum, it looks like my intuition was wrong.
18:15 <ADragonDreaming> or put another way, where L = length of the side of the polygon, L=r*2
18:15 <ADragonDreaming> or more likely L>=r*2
18:15 <Cepheid> The circles themselves can overlap, the requirement is that a sensor cannot be in the radius of another.
18:16 <Cepheid> Thus, on an N-gon, with side length L, L > r in order for the sensors to not overlap with one another.
18:17 <Cepheid> Though, if a sensor sitting on the edge of the radius of another sensor is allowed, then L >= r.
18:17 <ADragonDreaming> oh, right. The midpoint of the circle would need to be inside the radius of the other circle in order for the sensors to be in range.
18:18 <ADragonDreaming> So then prove that L > r cannot be true where N > 5
18:18 <Cepheid> Yes.
18:18 <Cepheid> That's what I am going to do here.
18:18 <ADragonDreaming> I wish you well! I have not the tools to do the proof.
18:18 <ADragonDreaming> so would be entirely lost beyond this point were it my class
18:19 <Cepheid> Officially, the best way to prove it is a direct proof, by showing that N = 5 holds, while N = 6 does not.
18:19 <Cepheid> Which is one of the simplest types of proofs.
18:19 <RichardMist> What did I miss?
18:19 <ADragonDreaming> math.
18:19 <RichardMist> oh, good
18:19 <RichardMist> ADragonDreaming is good too
18:22 <ADragonDreaming> Fortunately you only have to deal with integers for N.
18:30 <Cepheid> Mmhmm.
18:30 <Cepheid> The way I wrote out the proof is... It's not the best. But it proves the point.
18:32 * Cepheid puts on some MH battle music. o3o
18:35 <Cepheid> Question 3 is another geometry question, but once again, it feels like there's missing information.
18:36 <Cepheid> Question 4, I solved in the previous assignment without being asked to, so.. I can just use the same approach from there, here.
18:37 <Cepheid> Ow.
18:38 <Cepheid> Draw a line from point A, to point B. That's one edge. Then rotate it 90 degrees clockwise, and calculate the X intercept, creating the third point for a triangle I need, allowing me to obtain the angle answer for this question.
18:38 <Cepheid> Pretty sure this is not how it was meant to be done.
18:39 <Cepheid> But it'd work.
18:39 <Cepheid> ... No, that wouldn't work.
18:44 * Cepheid makes note of all the information provided, and what information is needed.
18:47 * Cepheid puts on MH4U - Shagaru Magala's theme while thinking.
18:51 <ADragonDreaming> I used to hum Sonic Boss Battle music to myself during lunch rush at the A&W I used to work at.
18:55 <Cepheid> Given my stance towards the University, I consistently feel like- ... ... ... You know, I lied to the psychiatrists the other night, now that I think about it.
18:55 <Cepheid> They asked me if I felt like the University was picking on me specifically, what with their constant failures to do simple things relating to my student account and such.
18:57 <Cepheid> But the reality is that I do kind of feel like the University is poking at me, agitating me, trying to crush me. And every time I go "I'm not going to stop," my mind begins to feel like I am raging against the University, going "I'm here, and I am not going to let you crush me this easily. I may not be the best student, nor have the best marks, but I will show you. I WILL SHOW YOU! I will show you that you can't just walk
18:57 <Cepheid> all over me!"
18:57 <Cepheid> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_i66nXKvf0w So right now, this feels like the most appropriately-named music to listen to.
18:57 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.
18:57 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about You Will Know Our Names - Xenoblade Chronicles: Definitive Edition Music Extended
19:00 <ADragonDreaming> https://imgur.com/gallery/yEljOwD
19:00 <Cepheid> Interestingly, you've actually seen this in action in real-time ADragonDreaming, heh. For some reason, when the situation is dire, my mind goes into the above. There's one other area where such situations arise.
19:00 <ADragonDreaming> snowplow names.
19:00 <Cepheid> And yeah, heh.
19:00 <Cepheid> When your country is small enough, you can afford to do that. :P
19:00 <ADragonDreaming> My favorite is "Fred"
19:01 <Cepheid> Admittedly it is the most plain name among them all.
19:01 <Cepheid> And thus stands out.
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19:01 <Cepheid> Anyhoo, yeah. The other place where my mind goes into the above mental state is Monster Hunter and other similar games.
19:02 <Cepheid> Put us at one cart or running on a short time limit.
19:02 <Cepheid> Er, one cart left*
19:02 <ADragonDreaming> aye
19:02 <Cepheid> It's an adrenaline rush is what it is, basically.
19:06 <Cepheid> Now, if only I could get my brain to enter that state instead of having a panic attack and going into a depression spiral by thinking "I can't do X because Y."
19:08 <Cepheid> [REDACTED] happens. Grab your sword, grab your shield, get back up, and fight back with your all. Worst comes to worst, you don't succeed, but at least you didn't give up.
19:08 * Cepheid is currently taking a break from assignment to inspire and improve mood, also to clear head and deal with arse pain.
19:11 <Cepheid> ... I suspect I'm also feeling like this because this morning's test went surprisingly well.
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19:16 <Cepheid> I'm a procrastinator, that much I will admit to. Part of that may be my mental health, since I do get decision paralysis sometimes, often triggered by feelings of "I don't know how to do X" when in fact, I do know how to do X. What usually leads to such feelings is spending too long on a question or problem. I feel like somehow, I should know how to solve problems quickly, no matter the situation.
19:16 <Cepheid> Once I start thinking that way, my mind won't let me try to solve the problem in question anymore, because it has become convinced that it can't solve it, it doesn't know how to.
19:17 <ADragonDreaming> need to get this one on endless loop in your head: !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCkmIyC6v00
19:18 <Cepheid> This question for example. I'm not able to solve it quickly, but that small nagging thing in the back of my head is trying to say the reason it's taking so long is because I don't know how to solve it. But the thing keeping it at bay is that I can see all these variables, and I know what I need, and what needs to be done. The problem is just that there is a small gap in between that I need to fill in, and somewhere in my
19:18 <Cepheid> brain is the solution, I'm just trying to recall what it is.
19:18 <Cepheid> Heh.
19:21 <Cepheid> Do I feel like the University is picking on me? How could I not? Post-secondary education here in Canada is a for-profit business. It might be a wrong assumption to assume that the University would do whatever it can to slow my progress with the intent of milking me for more money, but it's not a farfetched idea. Every time I retake a course, that's more money in their pocket.
19:21 <Cepheid> And it's harder to discredit the idea when you consider that they keep bumping tuition rates faster than the rate of inflation.
19:23 <Cepheid> Since continual increases mean that students and/or provincial governments will provide them with greater and greater amounts of money, and we'll(students and governments) just go along with it because there's (in theory) nothing we can do about it.
19:25 <Cepheid> Further contributing to the belief that the University is for money, is the fact that over the last few semesters, enrollment rates have gone up. Waaaaay up. Like, more than the estimated capacity of the University.
19:25 * Schism flops in from that paperwork appoinment. "I was expecting something a bit more profound than an Ontario paper asking whether I accepted this new doctor."
19:25 <Schism> appointment*
19:26 <Schism> But I suppose the less my poor stressed hand needed to fill out, the better. Wish I didn't have to use my legal name there, but that's something to look at down the road right now.
19:26 <Cepheid> Anyhoo...
19:26 <Cepheid> I should probably eat lunch or something.
19:26 <Cepheid> Then get back to work.
19:26 <Schism> Cepheid: Perhaps. Food is good. o.o
19:40 * Finwe noms on köttpirog.
19:40 * Finwe offers some to Cepheid and Schism.
19:40 * Schism dips some in a spinach sauce, and noms.
19:41 <Finwe> Filled with onion, sour gherkin and Cracow sausages.
19:41 <Finwe> And the usual ketchup and mustard.
19:41 <Schism> Still fine with a bit of spinach added thereto. o3o
19:42 <RichardMist> Finwe, how are your birthday?
19:54 <Finwe> Are? I only have one per year.
19:54 <Finwe> Well, I woke up, had lunch, went out to do some shopping, I returned home, had supper and now I'm updating my operating systems.
19:57 <RichardMist> Mistakes when typing fast
19:59 <NitroTheFurry> Finwe
20:01 <Finwe> Mr NitroTheFurry.
20:01 * Finwe doffs his hat.
20:01 <NitroTheFurry> Happy Birthday
20:01 <Finwe> Thank you.
20:01 <Finwe> Two hours left. o3o
20:02 <Schism> Happy birthday, rAdm. Finwe. *doffs her cbbage rolls*
20:02 <Schism> cabbage*
20:02 <Finwe> But tomorrow is my mother's birthday, so the festivities do not cease at midnight.
20:04 <RichardMist> I hope you have a great birthday
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20:13 * Cepheid flops back in.
20:16 <Cepheid> Had a long talk with my mother about all sorts of stuff. Came out of it better.
20:18 <Schism> Good to hear...!
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20:20 <Cepheid> Hum. I'm looking explicitly for courses that involve programming. One of them sounded interesting, but there's a problem.
20:21 <Cepheid> "Introduction to mobile application development using the Mac OS X platform."
20:21 <Cepheid> Yeeeeah, unless the school is willing to pay for a Mac Mini or something..
20:23 <Cepheid> Geezus chripes Apple, how can you justify such a price difference? $899 for 256GB, $1,149 for 512GB.
20:24 * RichardMist *nomming sandwiches*
20:25 <Cepheid> Hmm. Computer Graphics is a choice..
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20:28 <PinkieShy> hihihi
20:28 <Cepheid> But of course I can't do it.
20:29 <Cepheid> Every freaking class I can take conflicts schedule-wise with Japanese.
20:32 <RichardMist> hoiii PinkieShy *wavies*
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20:33 <Cepheid> ... Okay, that works too.
20:33 <Cepheid> I took Parallel/Multicore Programming, and it's 0.5 credits.
20:33 <Cepheid> The Japanese class is an intensive 2nd year class, so it's worth 1.0 credits.
20:34 <Cepheid> Full workload for me is 1.5 credits.
20:34 <Cepheid> Hey, guess what? Two classes, 1.5 credit workload!
20:36 <Cepheid> https://www.youtube.com/post/Ugz-cbF4FRuVEMx1vg94AaABCQ ... o3o
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20:41 <Schism> I watched that one. <.<
20:41 <Schism> Cute dog, cute cute dog.
20:43 * Finwe noms on Ali's tail
20:44 <Finwe> Could also go with some spinach sauce. o3o
20:44 * Ali curls up under the Finwe
20:45 <Cepheid> ... Oh yeah, that's from the one about Arch-tempered Xeno'jiva, wasn't it?
20:46 * Finwe hugglesnugs the Ali.
20:47 <Schism> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yf_bqBrhTxI
20:47 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about NCH Shots: Korone pets a \\\"Cute Dog\\\"
20:48 <Cepheid> Oh, huh.
20:48 <Cepheid> I didn't see that one.
20:50 <RichardMist> hoii Ali
20:50 * RichardMist *wavies*
20:54 <Cepheid> Whee, last day of antibiotics.
20:55 <Cepheid> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDz0ZU0XF84 I have questions about how they got away with that first kill.
20:56 <ADragonDreaming> Imposter vision range and crewmate vision range can be different.
20:57 <ADragonDreaming> It's entirely possible the kill occurred outside view range of the "witnesses"
20:57 <Cepheid> The two of them are in an airlock. There's no way in or out except through doors that close, and then open, on a timer.
20:57 * RichardMist *puts a birthday hat on Finwe*
20:58 <Cepheid> Thus, a player standing in an airlock for several seconds with a corpse is suspicious as hell.
20:58 <RichardMist> oh, among us...
20:59 <ADragonDreaming> Indeed... however, if the people walking up didn't see enough to remember who it was, exactly...
20:59 <Cepheid> True.
20:59 <RichardMist> these people soo dumb...
20:59 <Cepheid> I hadn't thought of that.
20:59 <ADragonDreaming> if all you get a is a flash of color and then *REPORT*
21:01 <Cepheid> Still though, that was unbelievably lucky for the imposter.
21:01 <RichardMist> no plz was not an impostor
21:01 <RichardMist> neh, this is just dumb reporting
21:05 <PinkieShy> Well beat just summerland that freebie on steam..
21:06 <PinkieShy> Such a good story game that i kinda feel it shouldn't be free.. Should be more like $15 at least
21:06 <PinkieShy> It's just that good.
21:07 <Cepheid> https://twitter.com/Pusheen/status/1337502538992652290/photo/1 Schism, Lumindia.
21:09 <Schism> Thank you, Cepheid. Now I'm imagining an FF14-themed MichiriNeko Parade.
21:09 <Cepheid> Heh.
21:09 <Schism> It would be delightful.
21:10 * Cepheid goes to eat dinner, and then will flop off to the world of MH.
21:10 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Makenshi: Fluttermusic: Cynifree - Love Everything [Future House] [ https://tinyurl.com/y3lyk6lg ]
21:10 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Drawfriend Stuff (Pony Art Gallery) #3547 [ https://tinyurl.com/yy4ocs6d ]
21:10 <Finwe> Monstre Huntre
21:10 <RichardMist> ehm, I have about 500 stickers and I think that's enough
21:23 <Schism> "I will never understand how you could have possibly been wiped out." "I'm not sure. But if I were to levy a hypothesis..." "Go on." "It's that while we instinctually have a desire to learn, none of us could quite grok that different people prefer to learn different things."
21:26 <RichardMist> Cepheid, so, how long are you playing the Monster Hunter?
21:27 <Cepheid> I have been playing Monster Hunter for a few years now. Total number of hours? No idea. Monster Hunter World comes in at 468 hours.
21:28 <RichardMist> Wow, seems like you are very skilled
21:29 <Cepheid> That... could be debated.
21:29 <Cepheid> Don't trust what ADragonDreaming says. He lies about my skills.
21:29 <ADragonDreaming> which game did you start with, Cepheid?
21:30 <ADragonDreaming> Eh, we're a darn sight better at it than the average rando.
21:30 <Cepheid> You know, I can't recall exactly. At the time I discovered the series, Monster Hunter Tri was due to be released, but I remember in the lead-up to it, I had considered playing Monster Hunter Freedom Unite on the PSP. But I can't remember if I ever did or not.
21:30 <Cepheid> Thus, the first game I took seriously would probably be Monster Hunter Tri.
21:31 <RichardMist> ADragonDreaming, respect the player like Cepheid, he's learning, so we must support him
21:31 <Cepheid> Richard.
21:31 <Cepheid> I'm being a smartass.
21:31 <Cepheid> I'm joking when I say that ADragonDreaming lies.
21:31 <ADragonDreaming> Cepheid and I have been hunting together since MH 3 Ultimate.
21:32 <RichardMist> Sorry, I don't understand sometimes
21:32 <ADragonDreaming> Sometimes you get people who apparently maange to brute-force their way through the game even into the highest ranks, though. Had a rando join a capture investigation the other day
21:32 <Cepheid> Yep.
21:32 * Dappled couldn't play the early monster hunters. The control schemes on those handhelds was just painful.
21:32 <Cepheid> It happens.
21:32 <ADragonDreaming> He didn't know how to tell when a monster was ready to capture.
21:33 <Cepheid> Dappled: I managed to get around Freedom Unite's problem through using CFW on the PSP.
21:33 <ADragonDreaming> but yeah, I started in Tri as well.
21:33 <Dappled> Yeah, see, I didn't want to risk bricking my system so I could play a single game.
21:33 <Cepheid> Hooked it up to my PC, fed the video stream to it, played through an application that could take in gamepad controls and feed them back to the PSP, etc.
21:33 <Cepheid> Fair enough.
21:33 <ADragonDreaming> So I guess you and I have the same level of experience with it, Ceph.
21:33 <Cepheid> This was near the end of it's lifespan, so..
21:34 * Dappled was really hoping that with the overwhelming success of World that we would get more on consoles that weren't portable.
21:34 <Cepheid> Hard to say. Unlike you, I never reached the "end" of Tri. I never got past the Jhen Mohran hunt required for high rank.
21:35 <ADragonDreaming> There is that.
21:36 <ADragonDreaming> During that whole game I had a group of three others that we did essentially the whole multiplayer portion together.
21:37 <ADragonDreaming> Hammer, switchaxe, and gunner, I was the lancer.
21:37 * Dappled got the mythical pokemon Zarude. Wheee.
21:37 <ADragonDreaming> I remember that my chosen gear for Alatreon was upscaled Low Rank Lagiacrus armor, too.
21:38 <ADragonDreaming> mostly due to it having a better jewel slot distribution than high-rank for my skill-set.
21:39 <ADragonDreaming> Needed Guard Up, and guard. Forget exactly what else I had.
21:39 <Cepheid> With regards to focusing on handhelds for the MH series, I'm honestly not surprised. The core of the issue there is that in the biggest market, Japan, people like to get together, and the population density is also very high. As a result, lots of people play using local network methods, etc. Meanwhile here in North America, the population density isn't as high. That all said..
21:40 <Cepheid> I suspect that Nintendo provided a large amount of funding for Rise.
21:40 <Cepheid> I would honestly not be surprised if it was a timed exclusive, and Capcom just hasn't listed other platforms yet, possibly due to contractual obligations.
21:42 <Dappled> So long as they don't try and make us do that claw hand hold crap, I
21:42 <Dappled> I"ll probably be okay with it.
21:42 <Cepheid> On the other hand...
21:42 <Cepheid> The producer for Rise is also the same one who worked on most of the other handheld games.
21:42 <Cepheid> As for the claw, it's not going to be a thing this time around. Being on the Switch, we got access to both analog sticks, or a separate controller altogether, etc.
21:43 <Cepheid> I don't ever expect the claw to come back at this point.
21:43 <Dappled> Please let that be the truth.
21:44 <Cepheid> It was that way for MHGU. No claw.
21:44 <Cepheid> Left stick controlled camera. Right stick controlled character.
21:45 * Dappled also isn't looking forward to figuring out the armor system if they bring back the old method. I liked World. Very simple, I put on this peice, I have this armor, not I have to have x number of pieces that add up to this number to activate the skill at alll.
21:45 <Cepheid> That, I admit is a concern.
21:46 <Cepheid> Thus far, all armor sets they've shown have been shown as one armor set with melee weapon, and one armor set with ranged weapon.
21:47 <Cepheid> It's entirely possible it will go back to the old system, as the producer for Rise, and much of the handheld games, is not the same one that worked on World.
21:47 <RichardMist> Heyo Dappled, how are you?
21:47 * Dappled is awake.
21:47 * Dappled is also hungry. Should eat.
21:47 <RichardMist> Have a good meal then
21:49 * Dappled glares at Perfect Dark Reboot. Saw the title and really hoped for a remake cause the prequel that came after wasn't good.
21:50 <Ali> Perfect Dark again?
21:50 <Ali> Didn't they learn that the Xbox one was a massive flop.
21:50 <Dappled> Thus I was hoping for a remake, not reboot.
21:51 <Dappled> The original Perfect Dark is what got me into FPSs at all.
21:51 <Cepheid> Something something don't judge a book by it's cover. Plus, some series have managed to actually make up for past games, so never assume flops mean the end of a series, etc.
21:52 <Dappled> "Ecological Disaster has ruined in the planet is this sci-fi shooter reboot" Is a weird way to take coporate espionage uncovers alien conspiracy.
21:53 <Cepheid> I...
21:53 <Ali> Well since both Perfect Dark and Banjo Kazooie both died after failed xbox games, its pretty good to say the series is dead
21:53 <Cepheid> Really don't have time to fight over this.
21:53 <Dappled> Are we fighting?
21:53 * Ali flops over the Dappled
21:53 <Dappled> I said what I was hoping for vs what they are doing. It could be a perfectly (Pun intended) good game.
21:53 <Cepheid> No, but one will start on the grounds of me trying to convince you to not be, ye know, so judgemental about something.
21:55 <Dappled> And if any series can prove that you can have good games to bad games to good games to bad games again it's Resident Evil and I like that series.
21:55 <RichardMist> Schism, you said that to me?
21:55 <RichardMist> How are you feeling today, Ali?
21:55 <Cepheid> Your initial commentary about the game however, implied that you are immediately biased without giving consideration to actually trying it.
21:56 <Schism> RichardMist, nah. Random thoughts about a story.
21:56 * Dappled is biased, no doubt about that. I won't be buying it on release and will probably watch at least an hour of a let's player before I buy it, assuming it comes out on PC as well as Xbox.
21:57 <RichardMist> Cepheid, I always try to appreciate everybody, no matter what, I will be kind to everybody
21:57 * Cepheid sighs.
21:57 <Dappled> But I will at minimum watch game play of it before I decide if it's one I'm going to spend money on it.
21:58 <Dappled> And honestly buying games on release is a tricky practice to begin with. You could end up with No Man's Sky situation where the game a year later is much better than what it was on release.
21:58 * Lumindia looks over at the Sonic franchise
21:58 * Ali sits on Lumindia and hecks
21:59 * Dappled thinks the last game he bought on release was Fallout 76, And that was a big mistake.
21:59 <Lumindia> Dappled: Honestly my problem with No Man's Sky is that it had an AWFUL launch, and my opinion of it is kind of tainted by how much negative press it got upon initial release
21:59 <Lumindia> last game I bought on launch was Doom Eternal
21:59 <RichardMist> Ali is okay as I see
22:01 * Dappled checks to see if Rare is working on Perfect Dark... Doesn't see there logo... Is unsure how to feel about this.
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22:03 * Angeline noms on Dappled and plays games.
22:03 <Dappled> I mean I don't think Molyneaux is working on Fable 4, and I think that's a good thing, putting that game up higher on how I think that game will do compared to the decline that was 2-3.
22:03 * Dappled hugs the Angeline.
22:04 * Angeline is playing a game that is like some sort of bizarre Dynasty Warriors/Monster Hunter fusion and she loves it.
22:04 <RichardMist1> Hoi Angeline, how are you?
22:04 * Angeline squeals and hides under Dappled.
22:05 <RichardMist1> Heyo I am a good pone
22:09 <RichardMist1> Okay, sorry for disturbing you Angeline
22:09 <RichardMist1> *goes away*
22:09 <Lumindia> they just smol
22:09 <Angeline> ^
22:10 * Lumindia gently patpats Angie
22:10 <Dappled> On the subject of games taking a big departure from there origin, I'd like to point to Amnesia Dark Descent and a Machine for Pigs. Machine for pigs is a good horror game, but because it had the Amnesia title it got unfairly compared to it's original and that hurt it more than it deserved.
22:10 <RichardMist1> oh, small
22:11 <RichardMist1> ...
22:11 * Angeline is just a little bitty filly foal!
22:11 <Lumindia> I thought Angie was a filly...?
22:11 <Dappled> Okay, maybe not big departure, but you get what I mean, sometimes a game should be allowed to stand on it's own rather than being part of a franchise.
22:11 <Lumindia> I could think of a few movies that fall under that
22:11 * Angeline is smaller than Scootaloo!
22:12 <Lumindia> Final Fantasy; The Spirits Within is what comes to my mind
22:12 <RichardMist1> Okay, thank you for the explanation
22:12 <Angeline> HEY
22:12 <Angeline> Spirits Within was NOT BAD
22:12 <Dappled> That's the point.
22:12 <Lumindia> I'm not saying it was... but as a movie with the final fantasy name attached to it...
22:13 <Dappled> But it didn't feel like it should have the Final Fantasy name on it.
22:13 <Angeline> I...
22:13 <Angeline> Kinda disagree?
22:13 <Angeline> It felt like a precursor or meld between uhhh
22:13 <Angeline> V? VI? IV? I forget which and VII
22:14 <Dappled> There weren't even chocobos in it.
22:14 <Dappled> How can you have a Final Fantasy product without Chocobos? /s
22:15 <Angeline> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ge9uqTFXiAQ <--- Rodeo De Chocobo
22:15 <RichardMist1> I'm out of this world at all, I don't know anything, I haven't seen anything.
22:15 <Dappled> I want to ride my chocobo all day
22:19 * Lumindia looks over at his chocobo... hops on Carbuncle and flies off into the sky
22:20 <RichardMist1> chocobo... hmm...
22:20 * Schism flops on her bed, and just naps endlessly.
22:20 * Dappled imagines the size of the drumbsticks from a chocobo.
22:21 <Schism> http://doctordisney.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/turkey-leg.jpg
22:22 <Schism> Take that, multiply by 1.5x.
22:22 <Cepheid> I need to take a nap or something.
22:23 <RichardMist1> Now increase the size by 3.0x
22:24 * Angeline frowns at Dappled.
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22:24 <Angeline> Why would you hurt a chocobo?!
22:24 * Angeline bappyhooves Dappled.
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22:25 * Dappled falls over.
22:25 <RichardMist1> Cepheid goodnight if goin' to take a nap
22:29 <RichardMist1> Hey, Colgate, is there something wrong with my nickname?
22:31 <Finwe> Why should there be?
22:32 * Dappled wants to know what he missed. Cause he missed one.
22:32 <NitroTheFurry> !log
22:32 <Unixkitty> https://unixkitty.com/logs/EquestriaDaily/latest.log.html
22:33 <ADragonDreaming> RichardMist1: if you want to alter back to the original nick, type /nick RichardMist
22:33 * NitroTheFurry shrugs
22:33 <ADragonDreaming> It looks like you timed out, and potentially rejoined before IRC servers saw you as fully disconnected.
22:34 <ADragonDreaming> thus, "RichardMist" was already in use, and your client automatically changed you to an alternate nickname.
22:38 <Finwe> If this persists, you can use the nickserv GHOST command.
22:38 *** RichardMist1 is now known as RichardMist
22:40 * Dappled puts out a pile of catnip in the middle of the floor. Waits.
22:41 * Finwe noms on the catnip to no effect.
22:45 * Angeline sneaks toward RichardMist and offers them a juicebox.
22:46 * Finwe hats on Angeline.
22:49 * RichardMist *sips juicebox and thanks*
22:54 <RichardMist> Thanks Angeline, it was tasty
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22:57 <RichardMist> ow, Lucifer
23:00 <Lucifer> Richard.
23:01 <RichardMist> Hello and nice to meet you, Lucifer
23:02 <Lucifer> You too RichardMist.
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23:10 * Cepheid guhs. "I'm stopping that injected medication. I'm starting to think it's interacting with one of my other medications, because gods damn I feel like *YAY* now."
23:12 <Cepheid> https://www.reddit.com/r/MonsterHunter/comments/kb7ym5/so_you_see_thats_where_the_trouble_began_this/ Hey ADRa.
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23:18 <RichardMist> Nice
23:20 <RichardMist> Medication makes my emotion to become unstable
23:21 <RichardMist> and almost always affects me negatively on a mental level
23:22 <RichardMist> But I'm glad for you, Cepheid
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23:41 <Cepheid> Guh. Some gravol's helping.
23:42 * Cepheid wanders off to do a quick Shara hunt with randos.
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23:44 <RichardMist> Some sort of medication?
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