Log archive of EquestriaDaily for Sunday, 2020-12-13

00:18 * Cepheid beats on a giant rock lobster.

00:18 <Dappled> You mean a Hollow Rock Deciever.

00:21 <Cepheid> Heh.

00:22 * Schism offers Dappled a delicious plate of roasted acid flies.

00:23 <Schism> Well, fried or roasted.  They seem to go well on gluten-free pasta, too.

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00:45 <Lumindia> eee

00:45 * Lumindia hugs Schism muchly

00:45 <Lumindia> Just did a cryptic music lyrics challenge in XIV

00:45 <Lumindia> I got them all correct!

00:46 * Schism claps!

00:46 <Schism> Mmm.  Coffee with a splash of eggnog, a shot of liqeur, and a bit of cream.

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00:51 * Schism considers what food to make. Decides. "Broccoli in cheese sauce."

00:59 <Cepheid> Hells alive that Shara Ishvalda run was close.

00:59 <Cepheid> Felyne Insurance, Felyne Safeguard.  One player carted FOUR TIMES.

01:01 <Schism> @_@

01:03 <Cepheid> Eventually, I just turned into a healer, and started throwing around lifepowders and such.

01:07 * Schism puts on the Wiggler Helm.

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01:09 * Schism offers Cepheid some broccoli in the aforementioned sauce.

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01:10 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Say Something Nice About Derpy [ https://tinyurl.com/yygwdps5 ]

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01:14 <T^T> hello!

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01:26 <Jackie> Cyberpunk 2077 was a success albeit buggy.

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01:34 <Ali> Buggy is an understatement

01:45 <NitroTheFurry> You'd think with all that time they'd have done a bit better

01:56 * Dappled plays the best game. Slime Rancher. Floods the room with slimes.

02:00 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Nightly Discussion #2371 [ https://tinyurl.com/yygxeqo7 ]

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03:10 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Makenshi: PeKaNo - A Giant Pumpkin Is Trying To Eat Pinkie [Tribecore] [ https://tinyurl.com/yyg4mpz2 ]

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04:52 <Finwe> Good morning, my perissodactyls of minute stature!

04:52 * Dappled is a horse, yes.

04:53 <Finwe> Mlles Ali, Cepheid and Schism; Messrs RazorSharpFang, Dappled, NitroTheFurry and Lumindia.

04:53 * Finwe doffs his hat.

04:53 * Ali is too busy ear steaming in the corner

04:53 * Dappled waves.

04:54 <RazorSharpFang> Hey heys.

04:54 * Finwe offers some glögg to Ali and Schism.

04:58 * Finwe snuggles the Dappled.

05:00 * Dappled gives hugs. What's going on?

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05:40 <^-^> nighty night!

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05:43 * Dappled sees that it's 18 minutes to midnight. Stares at patreon to update with new chapter of book since it updates on saturdays. No I don't know what timezone they are living in, I just want it nooooooow.

05:46 * Dappled now suspects Pirateaba of being in this room cause that was fast.

05:55 * Ali sits on Dappled to find rare den 65

05:56 <Dappled> What's in 65?

05:56 <Ali> Eevee~

05:57 <Dappled> Eevee is good.

06:00 <Ali> But I don't understand where in the wild area these dens are, and if one can spawn in an area of low level.

06:02 <Dappled> What site are you using?

06:03 <Dappled> https://www.serebii.net/swordshield/maxraidbattles/den65.shtml Scroll to the bottom.

06:04 <PinkieShy> I drink way to much tea.. lol

06:04 <PinkieShy> But then again its probably way better than to much soda

06:06 <Ali> Dappled, those pictures really really don't help me at all.

06:11 <Ali> A quick ball failed...the heck

06:13 * PinkieShy licks Ali

06:14 * Ali squeaks at the PinkieShy

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07:57 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ConfusionRift

07:57 <ConfusionRift> Hello everypony.

08:00 <NitroTheFurry> Hiya

08:02 * Ali flops over the ConfusionRift

08:02 <PinkieShy> Why does this have to exist..

08:02 <PinkieShy> I know its a gag/joke but still.. Why XD

08:03 <PinkieShy> "Dehydrated Water" "Just Add Water!"

08:03 <ConfusionRift> Hah! You have seen nothing yet!

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08:04 <ConfusionRift> https://images.bonanzastatic.com/afu/images/0413/818d/5d66_9206284845/product-image-1270735589.jpg

08:04 <PinkieShy> .. You can actually buy.. Nothing..

08:04 * ConfusionRift gives PinkieShy "nothing". :P

08:04 <PinkieShy> That would be an awful christmas gift

08:04 * ConfusionRift huggles Ali.

08:04 <PinkieShy> Wrap it up and make the person think its something but just to find out.. IT was nohting

08:04 <Ali> You got NOTHING, ABOSULTELY NOTHING

08:05 <Ali> STUPID! YOU SO STUPID

08:05 * Ali spins wheel of fish

08:05 <PinkieShy> Then you could say to the person that says "Aww thanks!" You can reply "Awe.. It was nothing at all"

08:06 <ConfusionRift> I prefer nothing, but I think nothing is better. :P https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/71Mh3eza2yL._AC_SY741_.jpg

08:06 <ConfusionRift> I would use it for a joke leading to a something.

08:07 <PinkieShy> Same

08:07 <PinkieShy> Honestly i wanna do the oldest joke in the book at least once..

08:07 <PinkieShy> Get a bunch of boxes each smaller than the last leading to something.

08:08 <ConfusionRift> We did that a few years back. :P

08:09 <ConfusionRift> We started with a shoe box, 8 other boxes individually rapped, which lead to a small necklace box with a gift card inside.

08:09 <ConfusionRift> *wrapped

08:10 <ConfusionRift> I'm not that good at beatboxing anyways.

08:14 * Ali baps ConfusionRift repeatedly with a shoebox

08:14 <Ali> This is how you do it right?

08:15 <ConfusionRift> Indeed. You'll be in the world circuit in no time! And probably even beat Mike Ty- I mean, Mr. Sandman.

08:16 <Ali> But I want to release the bogus

08:20 <ConfusionRift> :P

08:21 <Ali> Gee civ, I just LOVE starting in tundra as a civ that gets no bonus to said terrain

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08:28 <ConfusionRift> When the game detects you jumping in with peace in mind, and just gives you the middle finger.

08:31 <Dappled> Is Ali playing the good Civ game?

08:31 <Ali> Is six really the good civ game?

08:31 <Dappled> Psh 4.

08:31 * Dappled sings that opening theme.

08:31 <Dappled> Also Nimoy.

08:33 <Dappled> Also tried Cyberpunk cause my roommate is silly and preordered it. I'm definitely waiting to get it myself for at least a month/next gen console.

08:35 <Ali> Buggy as all can be on console

08:37 * Dappled knew that going in, but still. One thing to know, another to experience.

08:42 * Dappled goes to get a piece of the biggest, best kind of donut (Angel food cake).

09:08 <ConfusionRift> Hehehe.

09:08 <ConfusionRift> Actually, haven't had angel food cake in a long time.

09:08 <ConfusionRift> Not something that's made a lot in here.

09:09 * Dappled noms cake.

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09:39 * Dappled is confused as to why he's having trouble with the Taurus Demon in DS1. He's beaten this game before.

09:40 * Golden flops. The phone glitch he was having in Cyberpunk 2077 fixed itself, but the Delamain quest is still bugged.

09:43 * ConfusionRift stands up, among the dead, and points at dappled. "You have forgotten... or have grown... rusty... bleck!" Flops dead again.

09:44 * Dappled nods. Also blames bloodborne. Different combat philosphies.

09:46 * Golden uses a phoenix down on Confusion.

09:46 * ConfusionRift plops back to life.

09:47 <Golden> Welcome back

09:48 <ConfusionRift> Actually, I just remembered something. In the FF series, there are undead enemies. If you use healing items, you do damage, whereas phoenix down instantly kills them. But... phoenix down revives the dead huh?

09:51 <Dappled> Dead and Undead are seperate states of being. Phoenix Down pushes you one step towards alive. In theory if you could use two on an undead it should fully revive them.

09:53 <ConfusionRift> Why didn't the Phoenix Down work?! | "Let me see... oh, it's because he's MOSTLY dead, but not completely dead." | (looks at the pile of ashes) ...huh?

09:54 <ConfusionRift> Was reminded how in Earthbound there are others ways of being "dead".

09:54 <Golden> Hm

09:55 <ConfusionRift> Actually... same as FF. (bonks)

09:57 <ConfusionRift> "That's RPGs in general." | Eerm... yeah, you're right.

09:57 * Dappled looks at Wandering Inn chapter he just read.

09:58 <Dappled> Course that's one in the "litRPG" genre.

09:58 <Dappled> So it counts?

09:58 * Ali grumps at Dappled that Eevee is only a huge swirl in a den and she still doesn't know where 65 is at all.

09:59 <Dappled> https://imgur.com/gallery/UhawZXG

10:01 <Ali> Huh, that works a ton better

10:01 <Dappled> Welcome.

10:02 <Ali> Super helpful, but sadly an Eevee raid only appears in the big purple swirl and I don't have the watts to just spam wishing pieces.

10:03 <Dappled> Do regular raids till you do?

10:03 <Ali> Kinda can't, I'm Lvl 20

10:05 * Ali snickers, is battling lowly yell grunts with Lvl 9's vs her Lvl 20 Noibat

10:08 * Dappled grumbles about rats in DS1. If you get poisoned when they first show you might as well turn around and use the bonfire, cause you ain't going to outlast that poison and you don't have access to antidotes.

10:10 <ConfusionRift> Yep, that's... that's the thing with poison in the game, or ANY status effect for that matter.

10:11 <Ali> You know that reminds me of the Colosuem glitch for pokemon

10:11 <Ali> There was this two on two

10:11 <Ali> Where the AI has a Crobat

10:12 <Ali> and its set to poison you if you're not poisoned, and confuse you if you are

10:12 <Ali> And if you remove the status, it will immediately swap the move to replace the removed conditions

10:14 <ConfusionRift> Pokemon Coliseum?

10:14 <Ali> Yeah, and I see you can't spell it either~

10:15 <ConfusionRift> *Colosseum

10:15 <ConfusionRift> Wait... no... AH, we know what it is anyways!

10:17 <ConfusionRift> Not sure why they didn't just call it Stadium 3.

10:18 <Ali> Cause it wasn't a direct sequal, thus it might confuse players.

10:19 * Dappled gives up and just equips Drake Sword. Is too unskilled to not use op weapon.

10:20 * Ali flops over Dappled and ConfusionRift. "To get a team of wild eevee or breed them."

10:20 <ConfusionRift> In any case, the AI was basically made for you to lose in some way. If it's not by status effect, it's by some nuisance.

10:20 <Ali> But the game was busted cause it gave you Espeon from the start

10:21 * ConfusionRift shrugs.

10:21 <Ali> I think its weakness back then was that it learned its psychic moves slower than it does now

10:21 <Ali> And umbreon has no real offense

10:26 * Ali grumps, really wished they didn't screw up trading for the unicorn. Now she can't get trade evolutions.

10:27 <Dappled> What trade are you wanting?

10:27 <Ali> If I wasn't going Eeveelutions it would be Kadabra to Alakazam

10:29 * Dappled has offered to do this before. Set up a home account, trade it to me, I transfer it to my shield. Trade it back and forth locally between mine and my roommates switches, trade back through home. No cost to you.

10:29 <Ali> Didn't it say that you can free transfer TO home but not pull from home?

10:29 * Ali can't read very well.

10:30 <Dappled> That would be silly since free home is a box of 30.

10:34 * Dappled doesn't see anything about not being able to retrieve pokemon, but a simple test for that is to simply catch a mon for the sole purpose to depositing and withdrawing.

10:34 <Dappled> If you can't then you've lost nothing but time.

10:38 * Dappled runs into Siegmeyer. Likes him. Shame his story is so sad.

10:43 * Ali is sad that all the TMs now are pure junk

10:44 <Ali> Such great classics now as Scary Face

10:44 <Ali> Such a big time move, who is going to use THAT TM ever?

11:00 <RazorSharpFang> Back in the day it was useful in that weird contest-appealing thingy

11:02 * Dappled wonders if we'll ever see a return of contests.

11:05 <Ali> Oy, the first vee is caught, but it was a male

11:06 * Dappled applies female in egg group.

11:06 <Ali> I also find it funny

11:06 <Ali> That on route 4

11:06 <Ali> Pikachu and Eevee have the same appearance percentage

11:06 <Ali> But for me, I see 40 pikachus and no eevees

11:07 * Dappled thinks Ali should just use the gift eevee.

11:07 <Ali> Gift vee?

11:07 <Ali> The go one?  It can't eeveelution though.

11:07 <Dappled> If you have save data for Let's Go, true, but it can breed and it already has perfect IVs.

11:08 <Ali> But the odds of it being female are super slim

11:09 <Dappled> But it gets you closer cause again, perfect IVs. So you can breed it till you get a female, have it holding the item for passing on IVs and even if you can't see the stats, you at least know there's a pretty good chance they'll be good.

11:10 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Morning Discussion #2143 [ https://tinyurl.com/y3cysjxp ]

11:10 <Ali> And what is the held item for that?  And can you get one before the first gym?  Cause that's where I'm at :P

11:10 <Dappled> Everstone or Destiny knot. I forget which is for IVs and which is nature.

11:12 <Ali> First item possible, the latter, not so much

11:13 <Dappled> Dang. It's the knot that's the IVs.

11:14 <Ali> Oh but the trick worked

11:14 <Dappled> Trick?

11:14 <Ali> I managed to force the Lets go Eevee to be female

11:14 <Ali> Save before the gift

11:14 * Dappled ishappy to help.

11:14 <Ali> And if male, exit game and reset game

11:19 <Ali> And there they go, off to the nursery in the wild area~

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11:35 * Ali boops Lumindia nosie

11:44 * Lumindia boops Ali nosie back

11:44 <Lumindia> oo wo

11:44 * Ali hecks and sits on Lumindia

11:47 * Lumindia hecks back, but quietly

11:47 * Lumindia also goes squish

11:47 * ConfusionRift wonders why Starbound keeps generating faulty worlds.

11:48 <Lumindia> maybe yo u're just faulty

11:48 * Lumindia shrug

11:48 <ConfusionRift> ;_;

11:48 <Dappled> That's mean.

11:49 * ConfusionRift looks at the character. "Maybe... he could be right."

11:50 <ConfusionRift> You know, maybe I am. Maybe... we all are... in our own way. (shrugs)

11:51 *** Dappled is now known as Princess-Celestia

11:51 <Lumindia> we'll all faulty in some way

11:51 <Lumindia> that's what makes us not faulty

11:51 <ConfusionRift> Because when everyone is, no one isn't.

11:51 * Princess-Celestia flaps her floofywings. Is the perfect princess who totally doesn't pawn work off on others to not have to do it herself.

11:52 * Lumindia spies a princess

11:52 * Lumindia brushes

11:52 <Lumindia> such pretty wings

11:52 * Princess-Celestia is a floofy princess.

11:52 * Lumindia preens

12:00 * Princess-Celestia also gets ready for bed. Makes Luna deal with sunrise and stuff.

12:10 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: 40 of the Best Fanfics to Read for OC Day!  [ https://tinyurl.com/y3u7hp33 ]

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12:39 <Cyan_Spark> Razor the investor

12:40 <Cyan_Spark> I have solid money melting in a few days

12:40 <RazorSharpFang> Oh?

12:40 <Cyan_Spark> Time to go to the bank and demand wads of cash

12:40 <Cyan_Spark> 1.55% interest rate from last year

12:40 <Finwe> Good afternoon, everypony!

12:40 <Cyan_Spark> Not a lot of cash, but still, enough for a wad I think

12:41 <Finwe> Cyan_Spark: For a fixed-time deposit?

12:41 <Cyan_Spark> yis

12:41 <Cyan_Spark> I wonder what banks offer these days...

12:42 <Finwe> We've had interest rates for savings accounts down to 0 % since about as long as I remember.

12:42 <Cyan_Spark> American?

12:42 <Cyan_Spark> I'm not American

12:42 <Finwe> European.

12:42 <Cyan_Spark> Huh.

12:42 <Finwe> For fixed-time deposits you get something like 1 % per annum.

12:42 <Finwe> I have to check.

12:44 <Cyan_Spark> 1.15%

12:44 <Cyan_Spark> Hm.

12:45 <Cyan_Spark> 0.45% for the bank that offered me 1.55% last year

12:45 <RazorSharpFang> They can't lower interest rates forever right?

12:45 <Cyan_Spark> lol

12:45 <Cyan_Spark> 0 is the minimum; once it's negative people will simply hold cash, or buy alternative assets

12:46 <Cyan_Spark> They may offer negative rates for loans, which probably will stimulate borrowing

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12:46 <RazorSharpFang> Isn't there negative interest rates in Europe?

12:46 <Cyan_Spark> Yeah, I heard

12:47 <Finwe> Cyan_Spark: Well, the effective interest for the account bound to my debit card will be rendered negative next year.

12:47 <Cyan_Spark> Interesting

12:47 <Finwe> Interest 0 %, monthly fee €2 just for having an account.

12:49 <Cyan_Spark> Interesting

12:49 <Cyan_Spark> Buy gold or something I guess

12:50 <Finwe> The interest rate the banks get for overnight deposits at ECB has been negative for a long time.

12:51 <Finwe> And still there is substantial threat of deflation.

12:51 <RazorSharpFang> How on earth is there threat of Deflation? Is the European economy that bad right now?

12:52 <Finwe> There was actually a project aiming for a storage facility for banknotes quarried into mountainside in Swizerland, but the Swiss state intervened for some reason and it was not constructed.

12:53 <RazorSharpFang> Which banknote?

12:53 <Finwe> Whatever the customers would have had, francs, euros, dollars, …

12:55 <RazorSharpFang> I have options expiring this Friday for me. BAC, NOK, XOM this time around

12:55 <Finwe> RazorSharpFang: With the pandemy making investments in some branches very risky, people rather have currency than shares.

12:56 <RazorSharpFang> Is this specifically deflation when it comes to equities or is it everything?

12:57 <Finwe> Falling consumer price index would probably be the best indicator.

12:59 <Cyan_Spark> How are your options looking, RazorSharpFang?

12:59 <RazorSharpFang> Cyan_Spark, not that bad on those ones. I'm likely getting assigned on Nokia, but I'm long-term bullish on Nokia anyway.

13:03 <Finwe> Well, what I'm doing right now is closing all unnecessary bank accounts. I'm not paying €2 per month for something I don't use.

13:04 <Cyan_Spark> Good call

13:04 <Finwe> Could be worth the while checking whether other banks charge something just for having a savings account.

13:05 <Finwe> They all charge something for debit card and online banking services.

13:15 <Finwe> Unless you owe them enough or have investments carried out by them.

13:15 * Cepheid awakens.

13:20 * Cepheid watches a show on a train in Australia. "... I cannot understand a word the conductor is saying. Either he has a thick accent, or my ears can't work through the Australian accent."

13:29 <Cepheid> https://imgur.com/gallery/BgbV135 Hum, I wonder what Anna Nab A Banana looks like.

13:30 <Finwe> Cepheid: No worries, mate.

13:31 <Finwe> And YMM "Ana nab a banana".

13:31 <Cepheid> Either one works.

13:31 <Cepheid> In the context of that image, anyways.

13:33 <Cepheid> Also, I think I incurred further damage to my wrist from my hospital visit the other week.

13:33 * Cepheid tilts right hand forward. Then backwards. Eldritch speech can be heard from the wrist.

13:33 * Finwe makes an Elder Sign.

13:34 <Cepheid> I kind of want to get it X-rayed just to see what kind of damage I did to it.

13:41 <Cepheid> Hi Spitfire.  Could you please not do this?

13:41 <Cepheid> Ow.  Ow ow.  Ow.  Owwwww.  Ow ow ow.

13:42 <^-^> i feel ya there...

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13:45 <Cepheid> Not biting or anything like that.  He just has this little thing where he likes to balance on my arm, and knead on my arm.  His claws being sharp as they are, poke and hurt my arm.

13:47 <^-^> talking about the wrist pain

13:48 <Cepheid> Oh, heh.

13:48 <Cepheid> It's not painful, actually.

13:48 <Cepheid> Just noisy.

13:49 <^-^> lucky...

13:49 <^-^> mine in painful AND noisy...

13:49 <RichardMist> Hoya everypony! *wavies*

13:49 <^-^> hi

13:50 <RichardMist> How are ya all today?

13:50 <Cepheid> Well, it's still too early to say if it won't cause any problems down the road.  On top of that, it's noisy because back in around 2010, due to untreated mental health back then, I struck my wrist multiple times up against a cement pillar.  It was about as painful as it sounds, heh.

13:50 <Cepheid> I'm doing okay.  Slept well.

13:51 <RichardMist> Glat to see that you are okay

13:59 <Cepheid> Last assignment was submitted yesterday, just got exams on the 15th and 16th, then on the 17th, some real 'fun' for me.  I need to get a couple of teeth fillings.

14:02 <Cepheid> https://twitter.com/dengekionline/status/1338121762974810112/photo/1 ... I... wha..  That's a 19-digit damage value in Disgaea 6.

14:02 <RichardMist> I wish you good luck

14:13 <Cepheid> Finwe, you're the math genius around here.  I know 10^3 is thousands, 10^6 is millions, 10^9 is billions, 10^12 is trillions, but what comes after that?  What's 10^15?  I seem to be having trouble finding the answer through Google because I don't know how to describe what it is I am looking for to Google.

14:13 <Cepheid> ... Oh, wait, I just found it.  It's quadrillion.

14:14 <Cepheid> Then we get 10^18, quintillion.  So... that screenshot, 14 quintillion damage was dealt.  Geezus hells alive.

14:20 <Cepheid> Hum..  There's a pattern in the naming.  10^21 is sextillion, 10^24 is septillion, and wikipedia only goes up to septillion.  Following that naming pattern, would that mean that 10^27 is octillion, then 10^30 is nonillion? .... Looks like that is the case.

14:29 * Angeline noms Cepheid

14:30 <Angeline> Decillion, undecillion, etc

14:32 * Angeline resumes nommage

14:33 <RichardMist> Hoi Angeline, nice to see you here again

14:37 * Angeline elects to dive into a pile of pillows. Worktime

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14:41 <RichardMist> Okay, good luck ʘ˄ʘ

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14:43 <Cyan_Spark> How's your weekend going, RazorSharpFang?

14:43 <Cyan_Spark> or, gone :p

14:43 <RazorSharpFang> Doing pretty swell. Caught up with Fam, all good.

14:43 <Cyan_Spark> Cool, cool

14:43 <Finwe> Cepheid: Moreover, in logical world 10^12 is billion.

14:44 <Finwe> The prefixes are mostly Latin.

14:45 <Cepheid> In long scale countries, yes.  I'm not in a long scale country.

14:45 <Finwe> Mono + -illion -> million (10 ^ (1 x 6)), bi + -illion -> billion (10^(2 x 6)), tri + -illion -> trillion (10^(3 x 6)) and so on.

14:45 <RazorSharpFang> Why even bother with words then. Just say "two by ten to the twenty-three"

14:46 <Finwe> quattuor + -illion -> quadrillion (10^(4 x 6))

14:46 <Finwe> The short scale is somewhat mind-boggling.

14:47 <Cepheid> Noooot for me, but that's because I grew up using it.

14:47 <Finwe> I mean semantically.

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14:48 <Finwe> In the long scale you have the multiplier that corresponds to the power of 1000000.

14:48 <RichardMist> Mr. Finwe

14:48 * RichardMist *bows*

14:48 <Finwe> Mr RichardMist.

14:48 * Finwe doffs his hat.

14:48 * RichardMist *wavies to others*

14:48 <Cepheid> Japanese, meanwhile, is weird to me when it comes to numbers.

14:48 <Finwe> Well, I guess you can do the same with the short scale.

14:49 <Finwe> mono (1) + -illion -> 1000 x 1000^1

14:49 <Finwe> bi (2) + -illion -> 1000 x 1000^2

14:49 <Finwe> tri (3) + -illion -> 1000 x 1000^3

14:50 <Finwe> and so on and so forth

14:51 <Finwe> In terms of powers of ten that would become 10^(3(n+1), where n is the prefix.

14:51 <Finwe> + the closing parethesis

14:53 <Cepheid> 百, 100. 千, 1000. 一万, 10000.  You'd think there'd be one for 100000, or 1000000.  Nope, you say 10 10000s, or 100 10000s.  So 十万, and 百万, respectively.

14:53 <Finwe> Classical Greek also uses myriads.

14:54 <Finwe> Meaning that 100 000 000 is a thing (a myriad myriads), but e.g. one million not so.

14:57 <Cepheid> The other oddity you might have noticed is that for 100 and 1000, it's one kanji each.  For some reason, with 10000, 万, unlike 100 or 1000, you have to specify a number beforehand.  You can't just write 万 for 10000.

14:58 <Cepheid> Though I wouldn't be surprised if Japanese shorthand does do it that way.

14:58 <RichardMist> Cepheid, If you want to be like pro in Japanese, then you should spend 4 hours a day

14:58 <Cepheid> Mmhmm.

14:58 <Finwe> RichardMist: The real pros (the Japanese) spend all their waking time. o3o

14:59 <RichardMist> This is too much

14:59 <Finwe> Must be the reason to the Japanese being rather strange every now and then.

14:59 <RichardMist> the brain must rest too

15:01 <Finwe> ありがとうございました

15:02 <Cepheid> You used past tense there.

15:02 <Finwe> Yup.

15:02 <Cepheid> Seems a little weird to use past tense for saying "Thank you."

15:02 <Finwe> When you go to bed, you thank your brain for what it has done during the day.

15:02 <Finwe> Therefore you use past tense.

15:03 <Finwe> For more information, contact your Japanese teacher.

15:04 <Cepheid> No, no.  You're right.  I looked it up, and it's right.  It's just, I've never seen it used that way because our class has not actually covered it.

15:05 <RichardMist> What about the どういたしまして

15:05 <Cepheid> Plus, I'm also thinking in terms of English when I think of "past tense thank you."  Because simply saying "Thank you" can be sufficient for past tense scenarios, present tense scenarios, and future tense scenarios(Thanking someone in advance for something they are going to do, for example.)

15:06 <Finwe> Even すみません can mean thank you, which is rather weird.

15:07 <Cepheid> Yeah, it's a little finicky, that one.

15:08 <Cepheid> Depending on context, it can mean "sorry", "excuse me", or "thank you" in the sense of "thank you for waiting" or "thank you for your patience" based on how I've seen it used.

15:08 <RichardMist> Finwe, the translator says "Excuse me"

15:08 <Finwe> I think it's kind of "sorry for the inconvenience but I'm thankful that you did that for me".

15:09 <RichardMist> Interesting...

15:10 <Cepheid> As for your statement, RichardMist, I have no idea.  I have never seen まして,  Unless you meant ました.  In which case it translates to "How did you do it" but without か, or intonation implying a question(which then makes it a little weird sounding, but probably just because I may have not learned about it yet), it's not a question.

15:10 <Finwe> Also, never ask anyone if they want something.

15:10 <Finwe> It's considered rather arrogant.

15:10 <Lumindia> 蘇生制限

15:11 <Cepheid> And yet, we are still taught how to do so.

15:11 <Finwe> Instead of "Do you want tea" you ask "Do you drink tea?"

15:11 <RichardMist> Hello Lumindia

15:12 * RichardMist *wavies*

15:12 <Lumindia> \o

15:12 <RichardMist> ようこそ, Lumindia

15:13 <Cepheid> Admittedly, the differences in nuance between English and say, any other language, does introduce some problems for me that I am not yet used to.

15:13 <Cepheid> But, that may just be because I've never learned a new language formally up until now.  I was supposed to learn French but doctors just told me "Nope, don't bother."

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15:15 <RichardMist> Cepheid, French, you know French too?

15:15 <Cepheid> No.

15:15 <RichardMist> oh

15:15 <Cepheid> I was supposed to learn it as part of my childhood education, but due to profound hearing loss at the time, I was pulled out of all of my French language classes.

15:15 * Schism provides a numeric system in base 25. o3o

15:16 <Cepheid> The idea being that, as I had profound hearing loss, I would have had a lot of trouble just learning English fluently.

15:17 <RichardMist> I'm sorry to hear that, Cepheid

15:17 <Cepheid> Eh.

15:17 <Cepheid> The profound hearing loss is gone at this point.

15:17 * Finwe noms on Schism's number system.

15:18 <Cepheid> And before anyone asks why I didn't just use hearing aides, trust me, I tried.  The problem was caused primarily by a chronic inner-ear infection, and after the eardrums were ruptured in attempting to use tubes to relieve pressure, the resulting discharge from my ears constantly clogged up hearing aides and made things worse.

15:20 <Cepheid> In fact, that situation is my reason for refusing to use them to this day.  Even though it won't happen anymore, as the infection is gone and the ear drums have since healed over, those years of trying to use hearing aides, and dealing with the problems involved, have made me a bit...  I don't know the word to describe how I feel about using hearing aides now.

15:20 <Cepheid> But I just don't like the idea in general, now.

15:21 <Cepheid> It's like a fear or phobia that using the hearing aides might somehow make the problem come back, improbable as that may be.

15:24 <Lumindia> so question Ceph: Are you able to tell what the kanji I just posted say?

15:26 <RichardMist> I don't like the tubes too

15:26 <Lumindia> ?

15:26 <Cepheid> Not right off the bat, no.

15:26 <Cepheid> Though, I do recognize the second kanji.

15:27 <Lumindia> want the Romaji?

15:27 <Cepheid> sousei seigen?

15:28 <Lumindia> recognized them after some thinking?

15:28 <Cepheid> Nope.

15:28 <Lumindia> kek

15:28 <Cepheid> Though, the literal translation suggests it's related to a game.

15:28 <Lumindia> it's one of the new Debuffs added in FFXIV

15:29 <Cepheid> Yeah.

15:29 <Cepheid> With that context, makes more sense.

15:29 <Lumindia> "Resusication Restriction" being the literal translation

15:29 <Cepheid> Resurrection Limit or-  Yeah.

15:29 <Lumindia> In a certain zone, you'll be unable to be revived through traditional means

15:29 <Cepheid> Mmhmm.

15:29 <Lumindia> that being of the typical raise spells players have access to

15:30 <Lumindia> only methods of raising being a skill called "Sacrifice", an auto-life proc, or Healer Limit Break 3

15:30 <Cepheid> I haven't been playing FF14 recently, so..

15:30 <Lumindia> which fully revives the caster's party

15:30 <Lumindia> it'll be implemented in the new large scale content for the Shadowbringers relic weapons

15:31 <Cepheid> That's... going to introduce some salt.

15:31 <Lumindia> though if I'm understanding it, it's only going to be in the hard mode of that content

15:31 <Cepheid> That's still going to introduce some salt.

15:32 <Lumindia> it's been added before, and people were fine with it

15:32 <Cepheid> I find that surprising.

15:32 <Cepheid> With the way that people are all "WE GOTTA WIN ON THE FIRST RUN OR **** YOU!" and all that.

15:32 <Lumindia> I don't like those kinds of people

15:32 <Lumindia> I'm more willing to keep going after a couple failures

15:33 <Lumindia> though I DO consider quitting if we keep failing on the same mechanic multiple times with no progress

15:33 <Cepheid> I'll keep going until I pass out.

15:33 <Lumindia> like in one normal mode trial, they broke normals and added a hard enrage for the second phase

15:33 <Lumindia> the DPS were so awful we kept hitting that enrage with no deaths

15:34 <RichardMist> Cepheid, but I like the Sumerian language, and Greek language

15:34 <Lumindia> After doing this three times, I had enough and just said "We shouldn't be hitting enrage with no deaths. Please learn to play your jobs." and left

15:34 <Lumindia> granted I got a 30 minute time penalty for queueing up for more duties, but I'd rather take the penalty than deal with the headache of that group

15:34 <Cepheid> https://i.redd.it/25qrajbdvt461.png

15:34 <Lumindia> TYPICALLY normal mode content doesn't have hard enrages

15:35 * Finwe noms on Lumindia.

15:35 <RichardMist> Oh wow

15:35 * Lumindia counternoms, casting Devour

15:35 * Lumindia gains 25% extra health

15:36 <Cepheid> Reminds me of that one Shara Ishvalda run yesterday.

15:36 <Cepheid> Called in some randos, for the hell of it.

15:36 <Cepheid> One player could not, for the life of them, dodge to save their lives.

15:37 <Lumindia> yeah I remember you mentioning that

15:37 <Cepheid> Four carts out of a maximum of five. ((3 normal, plus we had Felyne Insurance and Felyne Safeguard in place.))

15:37 <Lumindia> welp

15:40 <Cepheid> After the fourth cart I just started throwing around Dusts of Life and Lifepowders.

15:40 <Cepheid> Constantly.

15:40 <Cepheid> It was stressful when I had to return to camp to restock on items to make MORE Dusts of Life and Lifepowders.

15:43 <Cepheid> Mostly because that took about 30-60 seconds to do, and in that 30-60 seconds, it is entirely probable said player would cart again.

15:44 <Cepheid> That said, he was trying to some degree.  I mean, he didn't run into Shara Ishvalda's Beat Drop.

15:44 <Cepheid> ... In fact..

15:44 <Cepheid> When I returned to camp, ADra failed to mention that Shara Ishvalda was doing the Beat Drop.  So here I am, hearing that something's going on, not sure what.  And I catch a wingdrake back in.

15:45 <Cepheid> I landed directly in the center of the Beat Drop.

15:45 <Cepheid> I survived with about 25% health left.

15:45 <Cepheid> I flew in, saw what was going on and went "Oh... sh-"

15:45 <Cepheid> Or, was it "Oh... OH NO!"

15:46 <Cepheid> I kind of wish I had clipped that scene.

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15:49 <Cepheid> I get the horrifying impression that at some point, when the SJ seige starts up again, that I'll end up farcasting back to restock on restoratives for the party, only to wingdrake back in when SJ is doing it's "silence falls" ultimate and get carted because NO ONE SAID ANYTHING.

15:55 <Cepheid> Oh, ADragonDreaming.  Regarding Xeno'jiva and it's eyes.  Apparently, it actually only has two eyes.  https://i.pinimg.com/originals/2e/68/42/2e68423bb1f0e58e0fb5b6f97c809a53.jpg You can see the eyes explicitly, here.

15:55 <Cepheid> The rest of the glowing nodules are some sort of sensory organ.

15:58 <Lumindia> so two ACTUAL eyes, and the rest are 'eyes'

15:59 <Cepheid> Mmhmm.

16:02 <Cepheid> If I had to guess, without information from the devs, I'd say those sensor organs are probably for detecting things in other spectrums.  For example, the energy it feeds off of to grow, or heat.

16:04 <RichardMist> Maybe the eyes that detecting heat and so on

16:07 <Cepheid> Also, apparently, people with too much time on their hands have worked to figure out the name.

16:08 <Cepheid> Xeno is, of course, the greek word for "alien," and jiva is Hinduism/Jainism term for a living being, or entity imbued with life force.  Thus, "Alien Being."  And the theory crafting of the community suggests that Xeno'jiva is a space flea.

16:09 <Cepheid> Came in riding the Sapphire Star meteor mentioned in The Tale of the Five.

16:27 <Cepheid> https://imgur.com/gallery/6fvXHkO I'm no electrician, nor do I understand electrical physics very much, but uh, something about this terrifies the *YAY* out of me.

16:35 <RichardMist> They'll light up in flames if he continues

16:36 <Cepheid> Yep.

17:00 <Cepheid> I'll be honest, if I became a VTuber, and somehow became popular, I would have to tell my parents ASAP, unlike a certain rabbit today.  My parents would assume that, with the amount of money rolling in from donations, that I'm partaking in a less...  Highly-regarded profession.

17:10 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: 70 of the Best Plushie OC Ponies!  [ https://tinyurl.com/y6pnvxhz ]

17:27 * Cepheid creates a major group healing armor set.

17:36 <RichardMist> Cepheid, then you must take care of haters, if you want to be

17:41 <ADragonDreaming> unlike a certain rabbit?

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17:45 <RichardMist> Hello ADragonDreaming, how are you?

17:51 <Cepheid> ADragonDreaming:  Pekora, she "came out" to her IRL mother about being a VTuber who had 1 million subscribers.  Her mother apparently had no idea, and thought she was just playing games with friends.  It's... kind of a big deal, because they make a LOT of money through donations.

17:51 <Cepheid> Also, ADra, you'd have loved what just happened in World.

17:52 <Cepheid> I went to do that one high-rank quest that gives the research commission tickets, anyways, me and a few others were fighting the Odogoron.

17:52 <Cepheid> We beat it up pretty bad.  Then at one point, I decide to try and clutch-claw onto it.

17:52 <Cepheid> The clutch-claw killed it.

17:52 <Cepheid> Then the same thing happened during the Diablos fight.

17:53 <ADragonDreaming> Nice

17:53 <Cepheid> And the best part about the Diablos clutch-claw kill?

17:54 <Cepheid> I struck the tail with the clutch-claw.  Apparently I hit something truly, TRULY critical to continued existence of a Diablos that lies within it's tail.

17:54 <Cepheid> Oop.  Parents are home.  Best go say "Hi"

17:54 <ADragonDreaming> which one is that gives those tickets?

17:56 <Cepheid> The White Winds of the New World gives 1, guaranteed.  Arena, Leggi, Odo, Diablos, Rathalos.

17:56 <Cepheid> The other is The Sapphire Star's Guidance, gives 2 guaranteed, but it's Tempered Kushala, Tempered Teostra, and Tempered Nergigante.  I mean, it's high rank, so it's still not that bad, but... yeah.

17:58 <Cepheid> Looks like next I need...

17:58 <Cepheid> Guiding Lands Banbaro parts.

17:59 <Cepheid> COVID-19 test came back negative.

18:02 <Cepheid> I must be doing things right.  That's my fifth test thus far, and despite showing symptoms(Which, to be honest, some of which are so common that a common cold could be perceived as C19 before testing), I haven't contracted it.

18:03 <ADragonDreaming> Are you basically just not leaving the house?

18:03 <Cepheid> More or less.

18:04 <Cepheid> I haven't left the house for anything outside of medical reasons for approximately one year, now.

18:05 <ADragonDreaming> that helps a lot.

18:05 <Cepheid> The only reason I'm the one that gets tested regularly is because, it's easier to get one person tested than two people tested, who I'm in contact with every day.  If I have it, then both my parents would likely have it.

18:05 <Cepheid> Likewise, if either of them have it, I would contract it in record time.

18:06 <Cepheid> And yes, they can potentially bring it home.  My mother's a front-desk security guard.  My dad does printer, laptop and PC repairs, and goes into people's homes, apartments, workplaces, etc.

18:06 <Cepheid> Both are considered "essential" jobs.

18:07 <Cepheid> So they have to work, regardless of provincial or federal regulations.

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18:10 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: 70 Amazing OC Pony Figures and Customs!  [ https://tinyurl.com/yy2w4hez ]

18:32 <RichardMist> Cepheid, Our medical institutions gets money by faking the COVID results

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19:00 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Penny Wrights: Equestria Girls Friendship Through the Ages Follow Up [ https://tinyurl.com/y4o4pqcp ]

19:28 <Lumindia> ... Ceph I just saw that imgur thing you posted

19:29 <Lumindia> and I know just enough about electricity to know why that's a bad thing

19:29 <Lumindia> You know how a circuit breaker works?

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20:04 <Finwe> It breaks the circuit if the current exceeds its tolerance.

20:05 <Finwe> That's why they are called circuit breakers. o3o

20:10 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Animation: Your Little Cat 4 [ https://tinyurl.com/y5jlo9wa ]

20:11 <RichardMist> Already seen that animation

20:20 <RichardMist> Very good

20:26 <Cepheid> Gonna finish this hot chocolate, then I'll be ready to hunt some more, ADra.

20:33 <Cepheid> Also, Insatiable Investigator is, indeed, track analysis, ADra.

20:35 <Angeline> Cepheid, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56jUTbT9_3Q

20:38 <Twilight_Sparkle> Aha

20:38 <Cepheid> Seen it, and yeah, it's adorbs.

20:40 <RichardMist> What about this?

20:40 <RichardMist> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21skJDU05fE

20:40 <ADragonDreaming> Ponies are cats

20:41 <Cepheid> Right, good to go.

20:41 <Cepheid> Whenever you're ready to continue, anyways.

20:48 <Finwe> cat and its cousin with Internet connection, netcat

20:48 * Finwe hats on Twilight_Sparkle.

20:48 <Finwe> !twilight time

20:48 * DerpyBot bounces around in front of Twilight_Sparkle

20:48 <DerpyBot> Twilight time, Twilight time!

20:49 * Finwe joins DerpyBot bouning around in front of Twilight_Sparkle.

20:49 <Finwe> Twilight time! Twilight time!

20:49 <AppleDash> Starlight Time!

20:50 <Finwe> !starlight time

20:50 <Finwe> AppleDash: It's not Starlight time right now, silly!

20:51 <Finwe> o3o

20:51 <AppleDash> :(

20:51 <AppleDash> It's always Starlight time!

21:00 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Comic: Deal / Freeloader / nEvermore 21 / BoE 8:21 / Random Sketches 137-140 [ https://tinyurl.com/y6bzw5uz ]

21:02 <Schism> I am so going to murder everything within a 5 mile radius if this keeps up.

21:03 <Schism> Well, maybe not.  There's a hospital there.  And schools.  And... okay, murder every idiot, at least.

21:03 * Schism hugs the Cepheid. Has had a car alarm next to her going off at random intervals. Not enormously high, but enough to be a distraction.

21:05 <Cepheid> Fun, fun.

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21:09 <RichardMist> Hoii Ali *wavies*

21:09 * Ali wavies and yawns loudly.

21:10 <RichardMist> it's so sad to see you tired

21:10 * RichardMist *hugs and patpats Ali*

21:10 <Finwe> Miss Ali.

21:10 * Finwe doffs his hat.

21:13 * Ali doffs over the Finwe and yawns loudly.

21:14 <RichardMist> Ali, why you are not sleeping that well?

21:14 <Ali> I never sleep well

21:15 <RichardMist> That's soo sad

21:15 * Finwe is able to sleep well in the winter when it is sufficiently dark and cool.

21:15 <Finwe> Like now.

21:15 <RichardMist> and bad for your health, please take care of yourself

21:16 <RichardMist> Ok Finwe, that's cool

21:16 <Finwe> Sunrise was at 9:18 today and sunset at 15:11.

21:16 <RichardMist> okay

21:17 <Finwe> Compared to 13th of June, when sunrise is at 3:57 and sunset at 22:45.

21:18 <RichardMist> however, very accurate, Finwe

21:18 <Finwe> Under six hours of daylight versus almost 19 hours.

21:19 <RichardMist> Yeh, It's winter

21:20 <RichardMist> Finwe, so, which season do you like Winter or Summer?

21:21 <Finwe> Winter is nice given that it is cold enough, which it failed to achieve last time.

21:21 <Finwe> I hope this one is going to be better.

21:24 <RichardMist> judging by the Pole Shift, this is hard to understand

21:26 * Finwe nodnods.

21:27 <Finwe> We get a lot of thermal energy from the Gulf of Mexico along with the cyclones.

21:28 <Finwe> If you compare temperatures in Anchorage, which is on same latitude with south coast of Finland, it's much colder there.

21:33 <RichardMist> Interesting...

21:34 <RichardMist> Finwe, Have you experienced sudden temperature changes?

21:35 <RichardMist> For last month

21:36 <Finwe> The temperature has been betwixt -2°C and +5°C, not much room for very drastic changes there.

21:36 <RichardMist> And sometimes sudden changing that depends on the time of day?

21:36 <Finwe> -0.7°C at the moment.

21:37 <RichardMist> OK, it seems to be in a decent range

21:38 <RichardMist> Is it snowing now from your side, Finwe?

21:40 <Finwe> No, clear skies at the moment, I think.

21:40 <Finwe> or overcast, difficult to say in this darkness.

21:40 <Finwe> https://testbed.fmi.fi/

21:41 <Finwe> The weather radar says it's not snowing.

21:45 <RichardMist> Looks like it is, no cyclones at all

21:54 <RichardMist> Looks like the temperature will decrease over night and tomorrow will be colder

22:01 * Cepheid beats on the poledancing golden dragon.

22:03 <RichardMist> IIs he strong, Cepheid ?

22:10 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Drawfriend Stuff (Pony Art Gallery) #3547 [ https://tinyurl.com/y4x3oxwp ]

22:13 <Finwe> RichardMist: The closest one is above the Northern Atlantic: https://cdn.fmi.fi/weather-analysis/products/europe/2020121312_eu_analyysi_fi.png?t=1607867901

22:13 <Finwe> Looks like we're going to get some cold air from Russia.

22:14 <Cepheid> At the moment, no.  It's the easier version.

22:15 <RichardMist> yep, -6 now

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22:31 * Ali grumbles when civ goes well, and then her power decides to end everything.

22:34 * RichardMist *patpats Ali*

22:36 <RichardMist> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zpxgyG7eGk

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23:07 * Princess-Celestia horse?

23:11 * Finwe ruffles Ali's mane.

23:11 * Ali curls into Princess-Celestia and Finwe

23:11 * Princess-Celestia gives hugs.

23:12 <Finwe> Succes in Civ is an illusion easily dispelled by power outage.

23:12 <Princess-Celestia> Aren't most video games stopped by power outages

23:15 <Finwe> Precisely.

23:15 <Finwe> Remember, Al says, "Save early, save often".

23:16 <RichardMist> Hello Princess-Celestia, nice to meet you!

23:16 * RichardMist *wavies*

23:19 * Princess-Celestia waves. Is secretly the Dappled Pony.

23:22 <Schism> Finwe: And never overwrite saves.

23:28 <Princess-Celestia> You only need one save.

23:28 <Schism> Not if you're playing a Sierra game.

23:28 <Schism> And it's good to have multiple saves even on a Civ file.

23:29 <Cepheid> I agree, having multiple saves is a good idea.  Checkpoint/Autosave setups run the risk of losing everything if power is lost, and they don't use a system to avoid that potential scenario.

23:30 <Cepheid> And, based on what I've seen, many games don't.

23:40 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Drawfriend Stuff Art Gallery - Best Drawings of OC Ponies - (Part 1!) [ https://tinyurl.com/y2fu9f4d ]

23:43 <Princess-Celestia> But when your only save becomes unusable you get to do the best thing ever. Start the whole game over again.

23:44 * Cepheid looks at her 480 hour save in MH:World.

23:44 <Cepheid> I'd rather not.

23:45 <Finwe> Princess-Celestia: I thought one save file would be enough, but everyone who has played Leisure Suit Larry 2 and forgot to pick up the box of matches in the starting room knows that this is folly.

23:45 <Princess-Celestia> And then when you'd rather not start the game over you buy a new game and the cycle continues. Stares at the 3 digit steam library

23:46 <Finwe> You can make it to the final scene without the matches, but they are needed there and there is absolutely no way of going back for them.

23:46 <Finwe> The only option left is to start over.

23:46 <Princess-Celestia> That's dumb.

23:47 <Finwe> That's Sierra Online for you.

23:47 * Princess-Celestia should try to beat more games in her library before buying more....

23:47 <Finwe> After some furious installing, my 2008 laptop now runs macOS 14.6. o3o

23:48 <Finwe> Umm, 10.14.6.

23:48 <Finwe> 11 is the newest major version.

23:48 * Princess-Celestia hisses at the macOS. Clearly it needs to be running.... Windows 95.

23:48 <Princess-Celestia> The best OS.

23:49 <Finwe> I also have Xubuntu installed.

23:49 * Princess-Celestia doesn't even know what that is! She doesn't understand all this new fangled computer stuff.

23:51 <Finwe> It's the version of Ubuntu that comes with XFCE.

23:53 <Finwe> It used to be XForms Common Environment, but it doesn't use XForms anymore.

23:54 <Finwe> I still need a new GPU in order to update my desktop computer.

23:55 <Finwe> I bought a RX 580, but I haven't got it yet.

23:55 <Finwe> And with the postal service having their hands full of season's greetings it can take a while to get the parcel.

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