00:04 <Cepheid> Speak for yourself, I want to go hug all the demons, they probably want one.
00:04 * Dappled would like to give Lumindia_ a helpful hint.
00:04 * Lumindia_ flumps
00:04 <Lumindia_> died to the boss of Elysium
00:04 <Lumindia_> just got worn down
00:04 <Dappled> Just a load of Bull, huh?
00:04 <Lumindia_> in a manner of speaking
00:08 <Finwe> Bonsoir, mes petites poneys.
00:09 * Dappled explains to Lumindia_ that he can dash to climb out of the pool of blood faster.
00:09 <Lumindia_> after you die?
00:09 <Finwe> Messrs Dappled, Lumindia_, PinkieShy and Starlight_Glimmer; Mlles Ali, DashedRainbows, Angeline, Cepheid and Schism.
00:09 * Finwe doffs his hat.
00:09 <Lumindia_> nah, I like the sass
00:09 <Dappled> Yeah.
00:09 <Lumindia_> besides, it's a chance for me to catch my own breath
00:09 * Dappled waves.
00:09 <Dappled> Fair.
00:13 * Finwe hats on Angeline.
00:14 * Angeline go squash. Little fillies can't hold up big ponies!
00:16 * PinkieShy puts a top hat on Finwe
00:19 <Finwe> o3o
00:19 <Cepheid> Finwe.
00:19 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Drawfriend Stuff (Pony Art Gallery) #3574 [ https://tinyurl.com/yyfanqg9 ]
00:21 <Finwe> Cepheid-kōhai.
00:21 <Dappled> Duo boons are the best.
00:23 <ADragonDreaming> Some are better than others.
00:23 * Dappled combines Zeus, Posiedon, and Demeter. Best.
00:24 <Lumindia_> so I ust ran into Chaos
00:24 <Lumindia_> this is... a thing
00:24 <Lumindia_> giving me the chills just being here
00:24 * Dappled is still lacking a boon from Chaos.
00:25 <ADragonDreaming> I am also lacking said boon.
00:26 * Dappled 's grabbing the egg on his next run.
00:36 * Angeline pokes Dappled.
00:36 * Angeline thinks the best combination is Athena/Ares
00:37 <Dappled> Okay, but hear me out.
00:38 <Dappled> With Poseidon, get knockaway rupture on your must used attack, Zeus get jolted.
00:38 <Finwe> Angeline: The goddess of wisdom and the god of war?
00:38 <Dappled> Poseidon/Zeus Duo causes knockaway to cause lightning strikes.
00:39 <Angeline> Okay, but let me counter that with the Ares/Athena Duo
00:39 <Angeline> Merciful End.
00:39 <Angeline> Deflect triggers Doom.
00:39 <Angeline> Get Divine Dash and the Doom-on-Attack boons
00:39 <Dappled> Add in Demeter's where jolted doesn't expire for 10 seconds.
00:39 <Angeline> And whammo you can now spike nearly triple your normal damage
00:39 <Dappled> Now your most used attack applies the bonuses for applying two status affects at once.
00:40 <Lumindia_> dOh my god I love 'Dusa
00:40 <Lumindia_> She's precious!
00:40 <Dappled> Yes.
00:40 <Dappled> Give all worldly possessions to Dusa.
00:40 * Dappled appreciates a good pun.
00:41 <Dappled> If your going to do that Angeline, add on Aphrodite to the mix so that doom continually strikes weakened enemies.
00:41 <Angeline> I guess
00:42 <Dappled> It doesn't expire as fast. Doom normally only strikes once.
00:42 <Dappled> You proc much faster with it on weak.
00:43 * Angeline squees.
00:43 <Angeline> oh wait right capslock
00:43 <Angeline> I can play Battletech now~
00:44 * Dappled gets into Angeline's mechs. Configures them to blare crab rave out the external speakers.
00:49 * Angeline runs around squeaking in glee.
00:54 <Finwe> o3o
00:55 <Finwe> !lullaby
00:55 * DerpyBot carries Finwe off to bed
00:55 * DerpyBot tucks Finwe in and hums a lullaby
00:55 <Finwe> !shoo
00:55 * DerpyBot sways from side to side, quietly humming "shoo be doo shoo shoo be doo"
00:55 <Finwe> Good night, everypony!
00:56 <Dappled> Good night!
01:06 <Lumindia_> https://i.imgur.com/HosgU3n.jpeg
01:07 * Lumindia_ is petting Cerberus every chance they get
01:07 <Dappled> I mean, it used to be nicer, Lumindia_.
01:07 <Lumindia_> Cerberus is a good boy
01:07 <Dappled> Just wait til you get through the Temple of Styx, let me know if you still think he's a good boy, Lumindia_.
01:07 <Lumindia_> I've watched runs of this, so I know what goes on up there
01:08 * Dappled pout horses.
01:08 <Lumindia_> I bought this game BECAUSE it looks like fun
01:08 <Lumindia_> besides, I haven't discovered all the dialogue and such
01:08 <Lumindia_> part of the fun is discovering everything yourself
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01:25 <Angeline> Lumindia_, I was playing it before AGDQ this year
01:25 <Angeline> so nyeeeeeeh
01:25 <Lumindia_> I wanted to get it before that, but never had the spare cash
01:25 <Lumindia_> christmas was as good a time as any
01:25 * Angeline continues to nyeeeeh at Lumindia.
01:26 * Lumindia_ nyeeeehs back
01:27 * Angeline pokes Lumindia in the nose.
01:28 * Lumindia_ squeaks
01:29 * Lumindia_ boops the Angie back gently
01:29 <Lumindia_> you're a silly pony
01:29 * Dappled wriggles.
01:36 <Schism> Lumindia: Have you seen the new GNB artifact weapon?
01:36 <Schism> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ErROb3XXEAAYp5x?format=jpg&name=small
01:37 <RazorSharpFang> Happy Sunday from Australia
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01:41 <Golden> Well. That movie was better than I expected
01:41 <Cepheid> Right, so due to localized insanity, me and ADra are about to take on Alatreon well before we are ready. o3o Bets on winning?
01:42 <Golden> If it's a 2 v 1....My bits are on Alatreon
01:42 <Cepheid> Heh.
01:42 <Cepheid> I mostly just want an idea of what to expect, without spoiling it directly outside of knowing "I need to do elemental damage."
01:43 <Golden> The movie I saw was funny enough the Monster Hunter movie.
01:43 <Cepheid> Heh.
01:43 <Cepheid> I still need to catch that, just for the hell of it.
01:43 <Golden> From someone who has been with the series since 4U I do recommend it
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01:45 <Cepheid> Only one generation later than me. o3o
01:45 <Cepheid> I started in 3rd gen. Tri.
01:46 <Cepheid> Anyhoo, about to go die horribly.
01:47 <Golden> May you get the best drop from the carves if you live
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01:49 <RazorSharpFang> I started in 2nd gen, which was okay, but there was a severe shortage of good moves for quite a few types back then (e.g.: Rock, Bug, )
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01:58 <Cepheid> Whelp.
01:58 <Cepheid> We lost.
01:59 <Cepheid> 'Twas fun, at least.
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02:19 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Nightly Discussion #2399 [ https://tinyurl.com/y2gexm3b ]
02:23 <RazorSharpFang> Interesting. This IP when I ping it responds that it itself is unreachable.
02:24 <RazorSharpFang> i.e.: ping 10.20.26.6: Reply from 10.20.26.6: Destination Net Unreachable
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02:29 <Thrakerzod> Cepheid, I can confirm that the first hop from my house is dropping packets.
02:29 <Cepheid> Hmm?
02:29 <Cepheid> Oh.
02:29 <Thrakerzod> Looks like my local ISP is not having a good time right now.
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02:31 <Ali> That be razor
02:31 *** Thrakerzod is now known as RazorSharpFang
02:31 * Dappled chews on sticks.
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02:33 <Lumindia_> https://i.imgur.com/AZuHf3z.png Once per CHAMBER, you say?
02:33 <Lumindia_> :eyes:
02:33 <Lumindia_> I've unlocked the second set of talents
02:34 * Dappled prefers the set number per run actually.
02:34 <Dappled> But once per chamber will get you more practice on the later areas, so its good.
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02:48 * Heartbreak dumps apple related jobs on Dappled.
02:51 <Golden> ._.
02:53 * Ali noms Heartbreak tail
02:55 * Dappled chews on the apples?
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03:15 <Heartbreak> Dappled: AJ isn't gonna like that you're eating her produce.
03:20 * Ali huffs, guesses tailnomming isn't good enough
03:26 * Dappled 's pretty sure that's what apples are for. Eating.
03:31 <Heartbreak> Ali: you aren't biting my tail you're biting Dappled's tail.
03:31 <Heartbreak> And turning Dappled into a mare.
03:31 *** Dappled is now known as Shadowed
03:31 * Shadowed is mare?
03:32 * Ali sees that she specifically nommed on Heartbreak's tail
03:32 * Ali noms on Shadowed's tail though.
03:32 * Shadowed swishy tail.
03:34 <Heartbreak> Heeee
03:35 * Ali flops across Shadowed and nuzzle mare
03:35 * Shadowed snugglenuzzle.
03:37 <Lumindia_> o.o
03:37 * Lumindia_ boops Shadowed muchly
03:37 * Lumindia_ then chews on Ali's tail
03:43 * Shadowed falls over.
03:53 * Lumindia_ also chews on Shadowed's tail
03:53 <Lumindia_> this tastes like pony
03:54 * Shadowed is a pony, how did you know?
03:58 * Shadowed has begun downloading mods for Skyrim and FO4 again. There is no escape for her.
04:12 * Schism passes the Ali some pancakes. And blehs. "Being unable to sleep..."
04:12 <Schism> https://twitter.com/verFyhi/status/1345107376152702976 - Pancakes.
04:13 * Ali beeps Schism nosie
04:14 * Lumindia_ chews on Schism's tail as well
04:14 * Lumindia_ chews on all the ponytails
04:14 <Lumindia_> nom nom
04:15 * Schism is a foodling, not a pone.
04:15 * Schism also passes this to Ali. https://twitter.com/verFyhi/status/1335357508085551108
04:16 <Ali> For some reason, direct links to twitter Schism do not work for me
04:16 <Schism> Oh right. Um. Image? https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EogkiM5WMAISn8t?format=jpg&name=small
04:17 <Ali> Its a vee
04:24 <Shadowed> Ali is a vee?
04:24 * Shadowed checks.
04:24 * Shadowed surrounds Ali with evolution stones.
04:25 * Ali isn't a vee here
04:25 * Shadowed had to be sure.
04:28 * Lumindia_ chews on the water stone
04:28 * Lumindia_ becomes a vaporeon
04:36 * Shadowed finds himself in the Celadon Game Corner. No escape from the slots.
04:40 * Shadowed flops at Pokemon Ponies. Should I get Dratini or Scyther for my Nuzlocke?
04:46 <Ali> The problem is Shadowed
04:46 <Ali> Dratini is party bait until 55
04:48 <Shadowed> Okay, but Scyther learns False Swipe.
04:52 <Ali> If you wanting a nuzlocke catcher, then go Scyther
04:53 <Ali> Dratini as I said, is party bait as it and Dragonair are weak and their movepools are pretty bad
04:53 <Ali> And even if you do keep it until the end
04:53 <Ali> Lvl 55 is right at the Elite Four
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05:55 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o ConfusionRift
05:55 <ConfusionRift> Hello everypony.
05:56 <Shadowed> Good bye!
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05:56 <ConfusionRift> Oh... laters?
05:57 <ADragonDreaming> Hey, Rifty.
05:57 * ConfusionRift wavies.
05:57 * Golden flops.
05:58 * Cepheid flops about.
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06:00 * Dappled had to reboot.
06:00 * Dappled returns immediately.
06:01 <Dappled> Whenever my gamepad starts messing up or showing that it's the second one (Despite being the only one) the easiest fix is to turn the entire pc off and on again.
06:02 <ConfusionRift> No joke, sometimes it's like that.
06:03 <ConfusionRift> For some reason, with DS4Windows, the controller would occasionally disconnect but still remain active. No matter what I do, the system thinks the controller is still active and connected, and reconnects the controller as P2.
06:03 <ConfusionRift> I could finagle with it for hours, or just restart.
06:05 * Cepheid puts on the Kulve Taroth fury theme.
06:07 <ConfusionRift> Still love the original Kushala's theme.
06:07 <ADragonDreaming> We successfully hunted Master Rank Kulve today.
06:07 <Cepheid> The Fury theme is a special theme, it's heard in only two cases: You get lucky, and push Kulve into a fury in the siege, or as part of the final phase of the MR version of Kulve.
06:08 * ConfusionRift claps. "Niiiice."
06:08 <Cepheid> We also attempted Alatreon and got beat up.
06:10 <ADragonDreaming> I'm very annoyed by the breath attack that hits the ground and creates an area of unavoidable damage.
06:11 <Cepheid> Mmm.
06:11 <RazorSharpFang> Hey Cepheid, how's things?
06:12 <Cepheid> I am somehow both boiling and freezing at the same time.
06:12 <RazorSharpFang> Nice?
06:12 <Cepheid> Yes and no.
06:13 <Cepheid> It's extremes in both directions, painful.
06:13 <ADragonDreaming> Rifty: so annoyed by said breath attacks, in fact, that I'm pondering learning how to use a bow well in order to punish it.
06:13 <RazorSharpFang> Not nice then
06:14 <Cepheid> Some parts of my body are so hot that the skin feels like it's burning. Meanwhile, the cold parts are... bearable. But normal for me at this point in time, so I'm used to it.
06:14 <ConfusionRift> It'll sure cover the distance, especially on an AoE.
06:14 <Cepheid> Heh.
06:14 <Cepheid> Of course, the problem with Alatreon is Eschaton Judgement.
06:15 <Cepheid> AKA: Divine Judgement.
06:15 <ConfusionRift> Problem is that distance is compensated by lower damage. Still, keeping the hurt at all will get it done.
06:15 <Cepheid> Gotta beat up them horns.
06:15 <ADragonDreaming> Plus, bows are better at elemental damage than charge blades, gunlances, or hammers.
06:16 <Cepheid> ADragonDreaming, while I Haven't looked at guides, my current theory is that when it hits that charged state, we need to mount/knock it over somehow, and beat the ever living heavens out of the horns.
06:17 * ConfusionRift takes out the cluster shots. :P "Mortar incoming!"
06:17 <Cepheid> Eheh.
06:17 <ADragonDreaming> My plan is to shoot it. A lot.
06:17 <Cepheid> It needs to be elemental damage.
06:17 <Cepheid> Raw damage doesn't work as well, if at all.
06:17 <ConfusionRift> Ooooh. That would be a bit trickier.
06:17 <Cepheid> At least, that's what's implied by all the NPCs.
06:17 <ADragonDreaming> I have read guides.
06:17 <ADragonDreaming> B/c I dislike hidden mechanics.
06:18 <Cepheid> I prefer surprises, myself.
06:18 <ADragonDreaming> Put very simple, yes. Elemental damage is necessary
06:18 * Dappled suggests using Dragon.
06:18 <Cepheid> Truth told, I wasn't sure about dragon.
06:18 <ConfusionRift> The charged shot from bows... I'm sure it's either fire or explosive.
06:18 * Golden doesn't know if he should try to jump back into world. He has been away from it for such a long whole.
06:18 <Cepheid> It's not an element in a conventional sense.
06:18 <ADragonDreaming> The right bowgun could take advantage of elemental switches.
06:18 <Dappled> Blast is a status, it doesn't count.
06:19 <Cepheid> Elements are just elemental damage. No special effects associated with them.
06:19 <Cepheid> But Dragon weapons can proc elderseal.
06:19 <ADragonDreaming> Elderseal is, however, a seperate effect from Dragon.
06:19 <Cepheid> Which leaves it in a nebulous elemental/status state.
06:19 <Golden> Hm
06:20 <ADragonDreaming> It's element, not status.
06:20 <Cepheid> But, looking on past games, it was treated like a conventional element.
06:20 <Cepheid> So I should assumed such.
06:20 <Cepheid> should have*
06:20 <Dappled> As someone who's beaten Alatreon on PS4. Dragon is still an element.
06:20 <ConfusionRift> Dappled: Is it? I thought it was a for of tick damage, or separate explosive. Then again, unsure.
06:20 <ADragonDreaming> In the field guide it's grouped in with elemental resistances, as opposed to status resistances.
06:20 <Cepheid> Yes, yes.
06:21 <Cepheid> I need to go through the field guide one of these days.
06:21 <ConfusionRift> I suppose one of the elder bows.
06:21 <Dappled> Blast doesn't count as an element. Your doing raw damage until you get a burst of damage but it's non-elemental damage.
06:21 <Cepheid> That said, I wonder how my safi dragon weapon would fare. Thing generally seems to be murder against dragon-weak monsters.
06:22 <Dappled> And you don't want to rely on Blast because much like Sleep/Paralisys, it gets harder to proc each time it happens.
06:22 <Cepheid> Mmhmm.
06:22 <Cepheid> It's not like it used to be back in 3U.
06:22 * ConfusionRift nods. "I see."
06:22 <Dappled> Just go with a Fire/Ice or Dragon build. I suggest Dragon because it's always effective to some degree.
06:22 <Cepheid> Wherein it was basically the murder element.
06:23 <ConfusionRift> To some degree.
06:23 <Cepheid> In 3U, blast was broken.
06:23 <Dappled> Fire or Ice can potentially become useless if you don't hit the elemental thresholds and he'll become immune.
06:23 <Cepheid> It was overly powerful.
06:23 * Cepheid pokes a Safi'jiiva. Then hears a heartbeat from somewhere.
06:23 <ConfusionRift> Oh right. Because it was doing part damage, and overall damage on top of that part damage.
06:24 <ConfusionRift> And even if the weapon bounced, it was still effective as it attached to the part.
06:25 <Cepheid> All I'm gonna say at this point with respect to future monsters though, is that if anyone spoils the Fatalis fight for me, I will murder them. In their sleep.
06:26 * Cepheid sharpens a plastic knife.
06:26 <ConfusionRift> Oh, and by the by, still have not seen Kulve. And I'm holding on that for now. I want to advance first.
06:26 * Cepheid carts as she accidentally touches the blade.
06:26 <ConfusionRift> You forgot you coated the blade. :P
06:26 <Cepheid> You could fight AT Kulve at this point.
06:27 * Heartbreak takes a brush to Cepheid's mane.
06:27 * ConfusionRift hasn't seen the Fatalis fight, but still has a pretty good idea. Will keep it to himself.
06:27 <Cepheid> MR Kulve, heavens no. Out of the what, five times me and ADra fought her? We only won once.
06:27 <ADragonDreaming> Four.
06:27 <Cepheid> Four times.
06:28 <Cepheid> Still.
06:28 <Golden> With how long I have been away from MHW on ps4 I doubt I could even handle MR Kulve....
06:28 <Cepheid> That's also not including the times *I* attempted her.
06:28 <ADragonDreaming> I still think the last one was some bullshit.
06:28 <ADragonDreaming> I had my shield up.
06:28 <ADragonDreaming> And she has nothing that Guard boost cannot block.
06:29 <Cepheid> Still distresses me to listen to you tank the firebreath. *clank* *clank* *clank* *clank* *Repeat for 30 seconds*
06:30 * Golden extreme worry if he goes decides to try to get the Free meal secret from Kulve armor.
06:31 <Cepheid> I still remember that one time I'm just listening to your shield guarding against it, and it just kept going and goin. I was expecting you to run out of stamina at some point and start taking damage, but SOMEHOW YOU SURVIVED IT.
06:32 <Cepheid> There's tanking, and then there's building a mobile bunker that can take direct thermonuclear strikes. You've apparently done the latter.
06:32 <ADragonDreaming> The key to that is that I keep moving forward.
06:33 <ADragonDreaming> If I just stand still, with shield up, then my stamina does not regenerate.
06:33 <ADragonDreaming> If I move foward with shield up, it does.
06:33 <Cepheid> Ah.
06:33 <ADragonDreaming> With Guard 5, the stamina drain from the hit is, like, 5%?
06:33 <ADragonDreaming> That regenerates in the time it takes for the next hit to trigger.
06:34 <Cepheid> And I assume it works because there's probably a minimum time frame before each tick of damage can occur, and that period is long enough to regenerate a bit of stamina.
06:34 <ADragonDreaming> So, yes, effectively infinite stamina, as long as I move.
06:34 <ADragonDreaming> Yep.
06:34 <ConfusionRift> Yoooo! You okay, bro?! (sees ADragonDreaming lift his shield, and gives them a thumbs up) | "HOW?! That was almost literally a flame as hot as the sun!"
06:34 <ADragonDreaming> "Uragaan."
06:34 <ConfusionRift> Yep, that'll do it. :P
06:35 <ADragonDreaming> My anti-Kulve armor set consists of three zorah, 2 uragaan.
06:35 <ConfusionRift> "-three zorah-", that would definitely do it.
06:36 <Cepheid> Meanwhile, I'm usually left handling healing duty to some degree because while people can deflect, dodge, and so on, they often seem to forget that they can also heal themselves.
06:36 <ConfusionRift> I forget it's much easier to combine armor sets in this game.
06:36 <ADragonDreaming> Thus, Artillery 5 Gunlance, Guard Boost, Guard 5.
06:36 <ADragonDreaming> Also fire res 3.
06:36 * Dappled declares this to be a good build.
06:36 <ADragonDreaming> And some other things.
06:36 <Dappled> Art 5 is good.
06:36 * Dappled explodes allies away from monsters, interrupting there combos.
06:36 <Golden> I remember fighting AT kulve, and Sapphi with the free meal from tigrex....maybe I already have the items for the free meal from Kulve
06:36 <ADragonDreaming> I actually have two sets prepped. One is set with Zin's gunlance. The other with Frostfang's gunlance.
06:37 <Cepheid> Imagine watching players who KNOW the monster in question can easily deal 75% of their health in one attack to them, run around and fight with 15% of their health.
06:37 <Cepheid> So, so stressful to watch.
06:37 <ConfusionRift> Heavy blast resistance, I believe explosive boost, quake resistance, and probably some hidden elements.
06:38 <ConfusionRift> Wait... is that why...? Nah, not likely.
06:38 <Cepheid> Hmm?
06:38 <ConfusionRift> Overthinking something, is all.
06:39 * Cepheid listens to music. Right ear stops working sporadically. o3o
06:39 <ADragonDreaming> Whatcha overthinking, tho?
06:40 <ConfusionRift> Not really that important. Just me thinking.
06:41 <ADragonDreaming> Well, yes. It's not necessarily important. But it could be interesting and/or entertaining.
06:43 <ConfusionRift> Was just reminded that I need one more FREAKIN' chin for the final piece of the armor.
06:43 <ConfusionRift> Stupid Uragaan.
06:44 <ConfusionRift> Not to mention I stupidly used the gem I needed, extending looking for said gem by another 2 hours.
06:44 <ADragonDreaming> Ah.
06:44 <ADragonDreaming> If it's a high-rank gem
06:45 <ADragonDreaming> just go on a couple SOS's for lower-rank hunters.
06:45 <ADragonDreaming> You'll get Gold Wyverian tickets.
06:45 <ConfusionRift> Master rank. And already got the gem.
06:45 <Dappled> Decos for life.
06:45 <ADragonDreaming> Ah.
06:45 * Dappled glares at not being able to get Mind's eye till you could meld it.
06:45 <Dappled> When I bought the game on release.
06:46 <ADragonDreaming> That's a Rathalos set skill.
06:46 * Dappled didn't want to use Rathalos though. Just wanted the Deco.
06:46 * Dappled got Guard Up as a deco way early on.
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06:56 * Golden blinks in fear. He doesn't even have MR Kulve alpha + registered as a set he can craft.
06:56 <ConfusionRift> That is... a problem.
06:57 <Golden> I do have base stygian sns which is dragon element with an average elder seal...
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07:41 * Golden flops.
07:41 * Dappled flips.
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07:57 <RazorSharpFang> Nothing quite like checking out my old youtube playlists and finding half of the videos no longer available
08:07 <ConfusionRift> Nothing like having half my videos muted or removed due to music claims. Even crediting did nothing, soooo... oh well. Just tempts me to remove everything.
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08:11 <ConfusionRift> "Maybe you should've used royalty free music." | I did. | "...well?" | And got claimed as well. (shrugs)
08:11 <RazorSharpFang> There was one time that a creator changed their license several years after their initial release.
08:12 <ConfusionRift> Oh yeah. I put up a test video long ago, using BoTW. That got claimed DURING publishing.
08:13 <ConfusionRift> Nintendo is hyper-responsive.
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08:15 <Finwe> Good morning, my perissodactyls of minute stature.
08:15 <Finwe> Lt Cdr ConfusionRift, Capt Koopz.
08:15 <Finwe> o7
08:16 <ConfusionRift> RAdm. Finwe. (salutes)
08:16 * Dappled is also here.
08:16 * Dappled waves.
08:16 * Dappled is playing the Fallout4. As a thing to do.
08:16 <Finwe> Mr Dappled, Miss Ali.
08:17 * Finwe doffs his hat.
08:17 * Ali curls into Finwe and Dappled, makes sure to tell Dappled that another settlement needs his help
08:17 * Dappled hasn't even met Preston yet.
08:18 <Finwe> Preston North End o3o
08:18 <ConfusionRift> I can play FO4... or MHW. Hmmmmmm...
08:28 * Golden curls up after fighting an Alatreon for the first time.
08:28 <Golden> Fear....
08:28 * Finwe hugs an Ali.
08:54 * ConfusionRift sighs. "I just wanna finish that armor. I can shooty-shoot later."
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09:26 <Golden> Still glad they are keeping blademaster, and gunner armor bundled together. It was a bit dumb in my eyes to have two different sets of armor based on what weapon you used instead of abilities.
09:32 * Dappled desires the Alchemy Barrel.
09:33 <Ali> Dappled, are you doing Corvega yet?
09:35 * Dappled had to add in a couple more mods. Just finished the raiders and am going into the muesem to send Garvey to Sanct.
09:37 <Ali> Right, there's something I'd like to test in your version
09:37 <Dappled> Okay?
09:37 <Ali> There's a room that has a turret and three raiders in it
09:37 <Ali> And after you clear them, two ghouls climb in
09:38 <Ali> In the crate, there is an explodable thing
09:38 <Ali> shoot it and get away from it once the room is clear
09:38 <Ali> And tell me if it does a nuke explosion after awhile.
09:38 <Ali> Cause I cannot figure out what is exploding that is creating that nuke blast
09:40 <Ali> Also why are you letting jerky out of jerkyjail
09:45 * Dappled actually enjoys the settlements.
09:46 <Dappled> Also Sim Settlements 2. Cause wants them populated without too much work on my part.
09:51 * Ali also thinks Dappled must be playing on a PS4 or something cause doesn't see them playing 4 on steam
09:52 <Dappled> Nya.
09:55 * Ali headtilts, how did Dappled hide them playing in a game?
09:57 <Dappled> Set profile to private. Hides stuff but you still appear online.
10:02 * Dappled just hit Lexington.
10:02 * Ali nods and snugs up to Dappled
10:03 * Dappled brushies the Ali.
10:04 * Ali purrs at Dappled, unicorn wishes she could do more with Sword but just loses interest after a few hours if even that.
10:05 <Dappled> With me I just hatch eggs for shinies at this point in Shield. Unless there's a shiny raid then I'll do a few of those. I'm not trying to hard for the Skwovet/Greedent though.
10:10 <Dappled> So big red thing in a yellow crate? It blew up, but I don't think that was a nuke explosion.
10:10 <Dappled> Wait. There's the rads.
10:10 <Ali> See? What is causing that?
10:11 * Dappled guesses the explosion, but not sure.
10:11 <Ali> It can't, that canister is not ment to explode like a nuke, not to mention its a delayed explosion
10:11 <Ali> And if I'm right, the'll be another shortly after.
10:13 <Dappled> There was. Not sure where it was. Was getting into combat from raiders running to investigate.
10:16 * Dappled smokes.
10:18 * Dappled also wonders if Corvega will restock enemies or if the first settlement quest will send me somewhere else.
10:22 <ConfusionRift> If you mean if enemies respawn, yes. After some time, they all return. At least, as far as I remember.
10:23 <Ali> Dappled, if they send you to Corvega, you'll probably get a choice that says you already cleared the area
10:23 <Ali> As far as respawns, heck to it. It seems to take forever.
10:45 <ConfusionRift> The respawning is extreme inconsistent. At times, it just takes forever to happen. Other times, they respawn almost right after you cleared that area (same for the items).
11:18 * Dappled go bed horse. See you all later.
11:19 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Morning Discussion #2171 [ https://tinyurl.com/y4bbzzt9 ]
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11:19 <ConfusionRift> Alrighty. See ya laters!
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12:19 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Top 10 Pony Videos of December 2020 [ https://tinyurl.com/y6fnaj3o ]
12:28 * Lumindia_ awakens
12:28 * Lumindia_ chews on a tail
12:29 * Finwe noms on Lumindia_.
12:30 * Lumindia_ noms back
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12:41 * Schism wakes up. Makes coffee, glorious coffee.
12:44 * ConfusionRift booples Lumindia_. :P
12:45 <ConfusionRift> And of course Schism.
12:45 * Lumindia_ chews on Schism's tail
12:49 * Schism boops pones in return. And tastes of coffee.
12:55 * Lumindia_ curls up next to Schism
12:56 <Lumindia_> pet me plz
13:03 <Cyan|Desktop> Razor the investor
13:04 <Finwe> Mr Cyan|Desktop.
13:05 <Cyan|Desktop> oh no my name D:
13:05 * Finwe doffs his hat.
13:05 *** Cyan|Desktop is now known as Cyan_Spark
13:07 <Finwe> o3o
13:17 <RazorSharpFang> Hey Cyan_Spark
13:17 <Cyan_Spark> hoi
13:24 <Finwe> Mr 'Fang.
13:24 * Finwe doffs his hat.
13:24 <RazorSharpFang> Hey heys. Jan 15 is options expiration day.
13:37 <Finwe> European options?
13:39 <RazorSharpFang> No, US style options
13:41 <Finwe> The Black-Scholes model does not apply, then.
13:44 <RazorSharpFang> Incidentally what are the difference between European style options and US style options ?
13:45 <Finwe> The European-style options can only be excercised on the expiration date, while American-style options can be excercised any day until the expiration.
13:46 <RazorSharpFang> AT the expiration as opposed to AT OR BEFORE huh?
13:46 <Finwe> Yup.
13:46 <RazorSharpFang> But that does mean you can't exercise call options to net a dividend.
13:46 <RazorSharpFang> Before the expiration
13:47 <Finwe> And a lot more.
13:48 <RazorSharpFang> Hmm... ?
13:48 <Finwe> That's why an American-style option is more expensive than a European-style option with the same underlying share.
13:49 <Finwe> RazorSharpFang: Most importantly, you cannot react to the share price before maturity.
13:50 <RazorSharpFang> I prefer that, because it means for option sellers they get paid more for the same obligation.
13:58 <Heartbreak> Beep Beep, RazorSharpFang is now a sheep.
13:59 * Finwe ruffles Heartbreak.
13:59 <Heartbreak> Oh hey, ruffles have ridges. Thank you for he potato chips.
14:00 <RazorSharpFang> I will shear myself and sell wool.
14:00 <Finwe> And after eating he-potato chips, you're now a stallion.
14:00 <Heartbreak> ... Why aren't they working?
14:00 <Heartbreak> Also, why do they taste like... bleh... ash?
14:01 * Heartbreak spits out something... black and horrid smelling.
14:01 <Heartbreak> What the fet, Finwe? Why you giving me prank potato chips that taste like burnt garbage?!
14:02 <Heartbreak> BLeH! GeeeeeeGh! It's fetting rancid too!
14:03 * Heartbreak checks self. "And I'm STILL a fetting Mare!"
14:03 <RazorSharpFang> It's the curse I bet.
14:03 <RazorSharpFang> Can't win.
14:03 * Heartbreak throws the chips back at Finwe angrily.
14:04 <Heartbreak> stupid curse...
14:05 <Heartbreak> Not that I really -want- stallionhood. Cause fetting crimany, -that's- anatomy IiiiiiiI just don't... ugh... want to deal with.
14:15 * Cyan_Spark blinks
14:21 * Schism yawns, stretches, and offers HB some pickled asparagus.
14:41 * Finwe noms on tuna salad.
14:46 <ConfusionRift> Sleepy go bye bye. Laters!
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14:49 * Cepheid awakens.
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14:56 <Cepheid> ... https://twitter.com/monsterhunter/status/1347716851338338304
14:56 <Cepheid> What's with this animation style? XSD
14:56 <Cepheid> XD*
14:59 <Cepheid> I have a distressing craving for bread pudding.
15:08 <Heartbreak> Schism: Oooooo! Pickled asparagus...
15:08 <Heartbreak> And bread pudding...
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16:00 <Lumindia_> why is everyone so hot in Hades?
16:00 <Lumindia_> @_@
16:01 * Lumindia_ passes 'dusa over to Angie
16:01 <Lumindia_> also 'dusa is just adorable
16:03 <Cepheid> Because it's hot in Hades?
16:04 <Cepheid> ... Huh, that's new.
16:04 <Cepheid> I have this unusual habit wherein, when I get worked up, be it anger-wise or just euphoria-wise, I start doing this thing with my hands wherein I start clenching my fingers/hand as hard as possible. Normally it doesn't hurt to do this, but today? It does.
16:05 <Cepheid> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xe9XjUSmyQ
16:05 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.
16:05 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Monster Hunter World: Iceborne OST - Guiding Lands
16:19 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Makenshi: Pony Concept Music: Night Blaze & KennyDash - Dreams Keeper (2020) [Soundtrack] [ https://tinyurl.com/y45agnrf ]
16:20 <Cepheid> ... Gods damn, man.
16:20 <Cepheid> $55 USD for a paper about using prune-and-search for implementing a dog-ear clipping technique for polygon decomposition.
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16:33 <Finwe> Lt Pony|73493.
16:33 <Finwe> o7
16:37 * Pony|73493 wave.
16:38 <Cepheid> Finwe, you're the math genius.
16:38 * Angeline runs up to Dappled.
16:39 <Finwe> o3o
16:39 <Cepheid> ... Actually, wait, nevermind.
16:39 <Cepheid> Though, just to confirm.
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16:41 <Cepheid> As we know, cos(a) = A dot B / (A magnitude * B magnitude), where A and B are vectors. What is the range of this function? It's obviously going to be 0.0 to 1.0 in cases where the angle between A and B is less than or equal to 180 degrees. But what would the range be if the angle between A and B is greater than 180? ... Youi know, I could just do the math and find out.
16:44 <Cepheid> Ah.
16:44 <Cepheid> That's a problem.
16:45 <Finwe> The range of real cosine is [-1,1].
16:46 <Cepheid> Oh, right.
16:46 <Cepheid> I forgot negative case. In any case, the problem is simple.
16:46 <Cepheid> I need to determine if the angle between two vectors is greater than 180 or not. And I don't immediately recall what I need to calculate this.
16:46 <Finwe> But the angle between two vectors is defined to be in [0,1].
16:47 <Finwe> Erm.
16:47 <Cepheid> Oh.
16:47 <Finwe> In [0,π]
16:47 <Cepheid> Dot product.
16:47 <Cepheid> If u dot v > 0, angle is acute. If u dot v < 0, angle is obtuse.
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16:48 <Finwe> Ah, but cosine does get all those values on that interval.
16:48 <Finwe> Lt Pony|12312.
16:48 <Finwe> o7
16:48 * Pony|12312 waves again.
16:49 <Finwe> cos(0) = 1, cos(π/2) = 0 and cos(π) = -1.
16:49 <Cepheid> Yes, yes.
16:49 <Cepheid> It's just that I need to determine if the angle between two vectors is greater than 180 degrees or not. And here's the catch.
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16:50 <Finwe> Well, it's defined not to.
16:50 <Cepheid> I cannot compare to see if cos(a) = pi.
16:51 <Cepheid> Here, I'll describe the full problem.
16:51 <Cepheid> Er, hold on a moment. Delivery.
16:55 <Cepheid> Anyways.
16:56 <Cepheid> I got 3 points, (p - 1), p, (p + 1). From this, I create two vectors A(p -> p - 1), and B(p -> p + 1). I want to determine if the angle between A and B is obtuse or acute.
16:56 <Cepheid> That's all I need.
16:56 <Cepheid> Just obtuse or acute.
16:56 <AppleDash> I'm obtuse and Starlight_Glimmer is a cute, does that help?
16:57 <Cepheid> According to research, dot product can do this.
16:59 <Finwe> AppleDash: No, Ali is a cute pony.
17:00 <Cepheid> ...
17:00 <Cepheid> Okay, wait.
17:00 <Cepheid> I made a mistake.
17:00 <Cepheid> Let me restate the problem.
17:00 <Cepheid> I got 3 points, (p - 1), p, (p + 1). From this, I create two vectors A(p -> p - 1), and B(p -> p + 1). I want to determine if the angle between A and B is greater than 180 degrees, or less-than-or-equal-to 180 degrees.
17:00 <Finwe> Cepheid: So compute A^(T)B and if it's positive, the angle is acute, if 0, it's right and if negative, it's obtuse.
17:01 <Cepheid> Yes, yes. I made a slight mistake in the problem description.
17:01 <Finwe> By definition, the angle between two vectors is never more than 180°.
17:01 <Cepheid> Except, this case is special.
17:01 <Cepheid> To give greater insight, we have a non-convex polygon.
17:02 <Cepheid> I want to determine if an interior angle of two edges is greater than 180 degrees or not.
17:02 <Cepheid> That is, two edges adjacent to a given point.
17:02 <Cepheid> I consider these edges as vectors, hence the above description.
17:03 <Cepheid> Though, it occurs to me.
17:03 <Cepheid> Hmmm, no, that won't work.
17:04 <Finwe> Then you should take the orientation into account.
17:05 <Cepheid> How would I go about doing that?
17:05 <Cepheid> ... Oh.
17:05 <Cepheid> I see.
17:06 <Cepheid> Thanks, Finwe.
17:09 <Finwe> If you can check whether x(A+B) is inside the polygon for x in (0,1), you'll get the answer.
17:09 * Angeline walks up to Finwe.
17:11 <Finwe> Miss Angeline.
17:11 * Finwe doffs his hat.
17:11 <Cepheid> I got an easier solution.
17:12 * Angeline bapbapbapbapbap.
17:14 * Angeline climbs onto Finwe and keeps bapping. She isn't hitting hard at all, mostly just sort of tapping.
17:16 <Finwe> Cepheid: Or if you traverse the boundary of the polygon in the positive direction, the cross product of the previous and next edge will point into or out of the plane depending on whether the polygon is locally convex at that vertex.
17:16 <Cepheid> Use atan2(y, x) on both vectors. If one is negative, the other is positive, sum the two. If the result >= 0, then the angle is 180 degrees or greater.
17:17 <Cepheid> Why do I need this in the first place?
17:17 * Finwe ruffles Angeline.
17:18 <Cepheid> I nee- ...
17:18 <Cepheid> I could have just done that approach, too.
17:18 * Angeline continues to bonk and play.
17:18 <Cepheid> No, wait, that approach wouldn't have worked.
17:18 <Cepheid> But the above one I just determined will.
17:19 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Entertainment Earth Selling My Little Pony Secret Ring Blindbag Packs [ https://tinyurl.com/y53d6pe2 ]
17:21 <Finwe> Oh, "for some x in (0,1)" is needed in what I stated first.
17:22 <Cepheid> This is a horrible algorithm. But it works.
17:22 <Cepheid> Ideally it's used to construct stuff such that is constructed once, used many times.
17:24 <Cepheid> I'd love to get access to that paper mentioned above, because it provides an n^2 algorithm compared to this n^3 algorithm.
17:31 <Finwe> Cepheid: So, in terms of this https://www.diva-portal.org/smash/get/diva2:330344/FULLTEXT02.pdf you're trying to check whether the angle of visibility at a vertex is less or greater than 180°
17:32 <Cepheid> That's actually exactly what I'm doing.
17:32 <Finwe> As defined in 4.2.1.
17:33 <Cepheid> No, no. I mean that paper covers exactly what I'm doing.
17:36 <Finwe> https://www.geometrictools.com/Source/ComputationalGeometry.html
17:37 <Finwe> There's a library for triangulation via ear-clipping, as well as via constrained Delaunay triangulation.
17:37 <Cepheid> Mmm.
17:37 <Cepheid> I don't need Delaunay, especially since I don't understand how to calculate certain parts for it, and I'm not expecting polygons with many subpolygons.
17:46 * Cepheid blares the Kulve Taroth fury theme over headphones.
17:48 * Cepheid is... in a mood.
17:49 <Cepheid> Right, triangle strip for lines is working, partly. I just need to figure out how to enable primitive restart in monogame.
17:51 <Cepheid> I suspect the right music triggers a mental illness I have, now.
17:51 <Cepheid> In the interim, use a regular triangle list.
17:52 <Cepheid> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKYsQib8MKQ
17:52 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.
17:52 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Monster Hunter World Iceborne Guiding Lands Theme Extended
17:53 <Cepheid> Besides the typical effects music has on people, listening to music induces a different mode of thinking.
17:53 <Cepheid> To put it into perspective, my current situation. Programming.
17:56 <Cepheid> My mood and thinking are best described by a statement repeating in my head, acting as a "shield of faith" of sorts.
17:58 <Cepheid> "I am not the Alpha or the Omega, but I do embody the concepts. Creation begets Destruction. Destruction begets Creation. The barriers before me were created at some point, and will be destroyed at some point. That destruction will beget new barriers, which too, shall fall at some point."
17:58 <Cepheid> It is inspired what my patron deity is. A deity that resides over the aspect of Destruction. Not rampant destruction for the sake of it, but controlled destruction. Maintaining a balance between things created, and things destroyed.
17:59 <Cepheid> When my mind is in this mode, I feel like I am protected by the weaknesses of my mind, so I can persevere, press forward, keep fighting against the things that would see me be crushed and sent into despair.
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17:59 <Lumindia_> first thing that comes to mind that would 'oppose' that would be "Byregot the Builder" from FFXIV
18:00 <Cepheid> Create the metal?
18:00 <Lumindia_> ♪snap clink clank whir whiz wham zoom♪
18:00 <Cepheid> Heh.
18:00 <Lumindia_> ♪Wheels humsing uplander doom♪
18:00 <Cepheid> You're typing those exactly at the speed I am listening to the music. :P
18:00 <Cepheid> Or, were.
18:01 <Lumindia_> nice
18:03 <Cepheid> As for how I can hold faith in such a thing... Well? It works for me. Plus, I've had a number of cases where I've offered a silent prayer to my deity, and the end-result was usually a success in whatever endeavor I'm working on. Interestingly, said deity isn't picky about what I invoke them against, given most of the time, it's been either against bosses in games or programming barriers that stump me.
18:07 <Lumindia_> I suspect they'd probably be more picky if it were physical barriers
18:07 <Lumindia_> :P
18:09 <Cepheid> Heh. :P
18:09 <Cepheid> I think it's more just a psychological effect.
18:10 <Cepheid> In praying, I am directing my thoughts and desires towards a specific goal. In effect, I focus my mind towards a goal.
18:10 <Cepheid> And through this, my self-control, and focus is improved until said goal is reached.
18:19 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Poll Results: Which Mane Pony Do You Want to Strive to Be Like for 2021? [ https://tinyurl.com/y2h3xf8n ]
18:19 <Cepheid> So it's sort of like applying a mantra to calm one's self.
18:22 <Lumindia_> makes sense
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18:25 <ADragonDreaming> !log
18:25 <Unixkitty> https://unixkitty.com/logs/EquestriaDaily/latest.log.html
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18:31 <Cepheid> I wonder if perhaps I should invoke that madness more frequently, since it seems to do more good than bad.
18:31 <Cepheid> And invoke it against more metaphysical concepts. Like my own temper.
18:32 <Cepheid> In any case, I've done enough work. I need a break.
18:32 <Cepheid> The hunt for Kulve's heart calls to me.
18:40 <Cepheid> Even though we can't carve it or anything.
18:40 <Cepheid> But the point still stands.
18:40 <Cepheid> Kulve Taroth must die.
18:41 <Ali> So you have chosen death meme inserted here.
18:41 <Cepheid> Yes.
18:42 <Cepheid> Unfortunately that meme is pointed at me.
18:42 <Cepheid> Not her.
18:43 <Ali> That was the intented target after all
18:45 <Cepheid> Ah.
18:45 <Cepheid> Your faith in me is touching, really.
18:45 * Angeline pouncies Ali.
18:46 <Ali> Well you've said you've had problems with her
18:46 * Angeline bounces around.
18:46 <Ali> thus the meme fits :P
18:46 <Angeline> Cepheid, question
18:47 * Ali tries to hold bouncy filly.
18:47 <Cepheid> Yes?
18:47 <Angeline> What part of Kulve is tough for you.
18:47 <Angeline> Hard armor, molten armor, shed armor?
18:47 <Angeline> Furthermore, what is your main weapon
18:48 <Cepheid> None of the above. Just damage output and keeping others alive.
18:48 <Angeline> Ah, so your problem is other hunters.
18:48 <Cepheid> I play the healer role, and it's MR Kulve, not AT High Rank.
18:48 <Angeline> I'd suggest the Discord
18:48 <Cepheid> And my gear is not augmented, so my defense is lower than normal.
18:49 <Cepheid> Otherwise, the fight's fine.
18:50 <Angeline> Ah.
18:50 <Angeline> What's your weapon/
18:50 <Angeline> Horn or LBG?
18:50 <Cepheid> Switch-Axe.
18:50 <Cepheid> I play the healer role through wide-range and carrying materials to make restoratives.
18:50 <Angeline> Oh, I see, so your skills are your healing.
18:50 <Cepheid> Mmhmm.
18:50 <Cepheid> As well as survival.
18:50 <Angeline> If you're doing healing, I can't suggest enough bringing a weapon that can block.
18:50 <Cepheid> Yeah, I'm working on that part.
18:51 <Angeline> Lance/gunlance/charge blade/sns
18:51 <Cepheid> SnS is best for me.
18:51 <Cepheid> I am not effective enough at blocking, so mobility is important.
18:52 <Cepheid> I am learning though.
18:52 <Cepheid> I figured out a few bits of SnS blocking/guarding last night.
18:52 <Angeline> Hmm.
18:52 <Angeline> If mobility is your shtick...
18:52 <Angeline> Try an insect glaive, with a healing kinsect.
18:52 <Angeline> Grab some rocks, power up your bug, and just send it out to attack on its own.
18:53 <Cepheid> Mmm. There is that, yeah.
18:53 <Cepheid> I really should master that weapon.
18:54 * Cepheid goes to training area to do just that.
18:54 <Angeline> The green clouds are used by skilled hunters for good healing, it gives you the best mobility in-game, and it's also good for support in general!
18:54 <Cepheid> Yeah, I know.
18:55 <Cepheid> It's just tricky for me to figure out how to use the bug.
18:56 <Angeline> Well, once you have triple buff, just send your kinsect out to auto-attack
18:56 <Angeline> That's... pretty much it.
18:56 <Cepheid> Ah.
18:58 <Angeline> In my opinion, the real trick for the glaive is figuring out which attack to use!
18:58 <Angeline> There's so many to whip out, after all.
18:58 <Cepheid> Okay, there we go.
18:58 <Cepheid> Got vaulting assigned to a single button on my mouse.
18:58 <Angeline> Especially once you're airborne
18:58 <Cepheid> That makes that a bit easier.
19:00 <Angeline> Once you're airborne, you can do SO much.
19:00 <Cepheid> So, use the kinsect fire to hit a part to gather an essence automatically, right click to recall..
19:00 <Angeline> Oh
19:00 <Angeline> If you're essence-hunting, forget the aim-and-fire-a-blob thing
19:00 <Angeline> Direct the bug manually
19:00 <Cepheid> Oh?
19:00 <Angeline> Yes
19:00 <Cepheid> What does the blob do?
19:00 <Angeline> It's faster and easier to aim that way.
19:00 <Cepheid> Ah.
19:00 <Angeline> The blob is how you make them auto-attack
19:00 <Cepheid> Ah, okay.
19:01 <Cepheid> So it just tells it to "go attack this monster"?
19:01 <Cepheid> Ah yeah, I see.
19:01 <Angeline> Specifically it tries to make a direct line from 'where it is' to 'the spot the blob is'
19:01 <Angeline> Then a few moments of downtime and it does it again
19:02 <Cepheid> Ah.
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19:04 <Angeline> Also, once you're in the air, you have a host of tricks up your sleeve!
19:04 <Cepheid> I noticed.
19:04 <Cepheid> Also a fade attack, looks like.
19:05 <Angeline> You can press the same button that blocks for SNS for a massive downward slam, aim for a clutch-claw drop attack, uhhh
19:05 <Cepheid> Nope, just a dodge backwards.
19:05 <Angeline> I don't know PC controls, but it's O on PS4 to do a dodge
19:05 <Angeline> well
19:05 <Angeline> Sorta a dodge
19:05 <Cepheid> Hilariously because of how I have it set up, hitting the same vault button twice results in that downward slam.
19:05 <Angeline> It's a combo dodge/attack
19:05 <Cepheid> Well, 3 times.
19:05 <Cepheid> Vault->Dodge->Strike.
19:06 <Angeline> If your mid-air dash-attack hits a monster, you bounce up into the air instead of just landing on the ground
19:06 <Angeline> This can be done... twice, I think?
19:06 <Cepheid> Honestly it was the vaulting that presented the largest issue, as well as using the bug.
19:06 <Angeline> It's so easy with a controller
19:06 <Cepheid> The vault's been resolved.
19:06 <Angeline> Plug in your PS4 controller :)
19:06 <Cepheid> I prefer the camera control of the mouse, as well as the better access to inventory.
19:06 <Cepheid> On PC, you can use 1 through 8 to access quick items.
19:08 <Cepheid> Thanks for all the advice though.
19:08 <Cepheid> Made me look at the Insect Glaive again.
19:09 <Cepheid> I think I might be able to rig up a quick "Fire bug at this part" setup.
19:09 <Angeline> yup
19:09 <Angeline> Practice on Great Jagras to get the aiming down.
19:10 <Angeline> Typically, body is orange, head/foreclaws is red, and legs/wings are white
19:10 <Cepheid> Only complaint? I'm going to miss this setup when I go to Rise.
19:10 <Angeline> This isn't always the case, so practice practice practice
19:10 <Cepheid> Since Capcom would never be able to implement keyboard/mouse on a console. No, that'd be too much.
19:10 <Angeline> Make sure you know where the essences are on the monster you're facing
19:10 <Angeline> Also, tails are usually green essence, which is a heal
19:11 <Cepheid> Mmhmm, I am familiar with all that.
19:11 <Cepheid> Kiranico has a handy guide for it.
19:18 <Cepheid> Right now though? Zinogre hunts. Need a few parts.
19:20 <Angeline> Don't you dare hurt my beautiful puppyboy
19:20 * Angeline only ever captures Zinogres. Hunting them is bad.
19:29 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Penny Wrights: Equestria Girls Holidays Unwrapped: The Cider Louse Fools Follow Up [ https://tinyurl.com/y5k942sw ]
19:42 <Cepheid> I captured it.
19:42 <Cepheid> I did cut it up though and bust it's horns.
20:08 <Cepheid> https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B07D2C4Z89/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 So, I bought this for programming on my PC. o3o
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20:20 <DerpyBot> *derp*
20:29 <Cepheid> Basically, I don't like taking my hand off my keyboard to use the mouse, so by using a touchpad, where my thumbs naturally rest on a laptop palmrest, I don't have to take my hand off the keyboard, or move it too far. Moving back is, thus, easy.
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20:43 <Schism> Ah, it's been a relaxing day so far.
20:43 <Schism> Lots of time away from customers, just rolling down a ridiculously long spreadsheet and figuring out what's going on with each individual item.
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20:58 <Lumindia_> https://i.imgur.com/YZYbKHj.png ...
20:58 <Lumindia_> Really, Hades?
20:58 <Lumindia_> Really?
21:04 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Fanfiction: Mapping Manehattan [ https://tinyurl.com/yylftptc ]
21:09 * Ali removes all of Lumindia_ 's trap and magic cards
21:09 * Lumindia_ hecks at ALi, though quietly
21:23 <Angeline> Lumindia, it's one of the best accessories IMO
21:25 * Ali boops Angeline nosie
21:25 * Angeline curls into a ball like Samus do.
21:25 <Ali> Or one of those rolly poly bugs
21:25 * Ali scoops up Angeline and brushies
21:28 * Angeline hugs Ali.
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21:34 * Lumindia_ boops Angie gently
21:34 * Angeline curls into a ball like Samus do!
21:38 * Lumindia_ lifts up Angie like a chozo statue, opens a secret passage
21:40 * Angeline rolls off to adventure!
21:42 <Lumindia_> \o/
21:43 * Angeline promptly falls through a bubbleblock and ends up trapped in a broom closet.
21:45 <Lumindia_> o.o
21:45 * Lumindia_ hopes Angie remembered to save
21:46 * Angeline rattles around in the closet.
21:53 <Ali> Ah the broom closet ending~
21:53 * Angeline starts to cry.
21:53 * Ali lets Angeline out and comforts the poor little filly
22:12 <Cepheid> Oh my gods a Kushala Daora in the guu- AAHJFDKSHGJVKFS
22:12 <ADragonDreaming> good luck.
22:14 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Discussion: What are your predictions for Generation 5? [ https://tinyurl.com/y4qk3c7s ]
22:16 <Lumindia_> hahaha
22:18 * Dappled exists!
22:18 <Dappled> What is going on, my friend ponies?
22:19 * Ali flops over the Dappled
22:20 * Dappled hugs teh Ali. Hello!
22:26 <Cepheid> Well, me and 3 randos just killed a TEMPERED KUSHALA DAORA in the Guiding Lands OH MY GODS WHAT THE HELL!?
22:27 <Cepheid> Alas, no Great Spiritvein Gems.
22:27 <Dappled> How many faints?
22:28 <Dappled> That's one thing I appreciate about the guiding lands. You can die as many times as you need to and you'll still get the carves at least.
22:28 <Cepheid> Too many for me to recall.
22:29 <Cepheid> Something like 6 or 7 total in the guiding lands run I just did.
22:29 <Cepheid> Among all of us that is.
22:29 * Dappled suggests turning in for rewards after every single kill so that the rewards can't go down farther before you turn in.
22:30 <Cepheid> Yeah, I know.
22:32 <Cepheid> I need a short break after that.
22:34 <Lumindia_> HEY !VSauce. Michael here!
22:34 <Lumindia_> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHL9GP_B30E
22:34 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.
22:34 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Illusions of Time
22:36 <Lumindia_> I both love his videos, and hate them at the same time
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22:52 * Schism flumps. Turns into a pile of changeling goop.
22:53 * Lumindia_ scoops Schism into a jar.
22:53 <Schism> Absurdly long spreadsheet = nice and relaxing, but also kind of boring. I'd rather have an hour on to deal with customers, an hour off to deal with cases, and then just flip back and forth. Makes the day a bit more varied.
22:54 <Schism> That would drive workforce management completely up the wall, though.
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22:56 <Schism> It _is_ nice that they're finally letting us take a pickaxe, chainsaw, and flamethrower to the backlogs, at least.
22:57 <Cepheid> ADragonDreaming, I think I'm done tonight. I'm not feeling too well and my vision's all wonky. Blurry.
22:57 <Cepheid> I want to lay down.
22:58 <Cepheid> I might catch a second wind though, so...
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23:07 <ADragonDreaming> Cepheid: that's fine, I'm in a Fates game for the rest of the night, basically.
23:07 <Cepheid> Ah.
23:08 <Dappled> ADragonDreaming: The Cursed King, Traitor Soul, or Undiscovered Realms?
23:08 <ADragonDreaming> None of the above.
23:08 <ADragonDreaming> Custom game and campaign.
23:09 <Cepheid> ... Dotnet is being stupid.
23:09 * Dappled headtilts.
23:09 <ADragonDreaming> wait, it's just called "Fate"
23:09 * Dappled checks for mods of Fate Games.
23:09 <ADragonDreaming> not Fates.
23:09 <ADragonDreaming> Fate Core system, not a computer game.
23:09 <Dappled> Oh.
23:09 <Cepheid> Or rather, MonoGame is being stupid.
23:10 <Cepheid> It's trying to run a dotnet tool, but it doesn't string-enclose the name properly, and the space in my username folder is causing it to glitch out.
23:10 <Schism> Hum. Stupid brain, thinking about how I should present names on a professional vs. personal context.
23:10 <Cepheid> Looks like it was fixed in a later version.
23:10 <Cepheid> Since updating to a development edition of MonoGame fixes the problem.
23:10 <Schism> The heck, Cepheid... o.o
23:11 <Cepheid> My vision usually gets wonky due to headaches.
23:11 <Schism> FATE is a good system. o3o *rolls 6d3, gets 1 success and 3 failures* FATE is a stupid system.
23:11 <Cepheid> I have a headache right now, so..
23:11 <ADragonDreaming> 6d3?
23:11 <Schism> Sure, +, -, or *.
23:11 <Schism> 4d3, right.
23:11 * Dappled chews on the strange dice.
23:12 <Schism> Not sure why I thought 6.
23:12 <ADragonDreaming> B/c physically they are six-sided.
23:12 <ADragonDreaming> Just with the same result on two sides each.
23:12 <Dappled> Apparently the Fate books are ones I didn't hold onto.
23:12 <Schism> They have 3 results, therefore they're a D3.
23:13 <Schism> https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/61chpy-tANL._AC_SL1000_.jpg
23:14 <Schism> Or I guess you could just get these. https://www.tribality.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/fate1.jpg
23:14 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Drawfriend Stuff (Pony Art Gallery) #3575 [ https://tinyurl.com/y3nl3495 ]
23:15 * Dappled likes D20 games.
23:15 * Dappled really wants to play Ponyfinder but he's horribly inconsistent.
23:17 <Schism> Dappled: FATE is story-driven, and so dice come into it _comparatively_ rarely.
23:17 * Dappled rolls dice at every opportunity.
23:18 <Schism> Take your character's status and the opposing force's status, roll the dice, and you get a -rough- indication of what'll happen, at which point it's up to the Narrator and the Player to hash it out betwixt themselves. And there are advantages to having your character on the downside.
23:19 <Dappled> Sounds kinda like Fairy Costume Adventure. Though admittedly that's much newer than FATE so probably inspired by it.
23:20 <Schism> Sounds kinda similar.
23:20 <Schism> Also, you a fan of the Dresden Files, Dappled?
23:20 * Dappled has read the books and has the rpg books somewhere, never played them though.
23:21 * Dappled points at Angeline. Now there's a Dresden Files fan.
23:21 <Schism> Ah, the RPG books are a FATE system, that's why I mentioned them.
23:21 * Schism can't help but think that Marcone's essence is rather low by now.
23:21 <ADragonDreaming> Dresden is mentioned in the Fate Core book I have.
23:21 <ADragonDreaming> explaining what happened to Skill columsn.
23:22 <Schism> Spirit of the Century is another excellent FATE-based game.
23:22 <Schism> If, you know, you like 1920s-esque zeppelins, jungle adventures, steampunk, mad science, and Victorian buffoonery.
23:23 <Schism> High fantasy, in its inimitable way.
23:25 <Schism> Well, at the turn of the century, mind, when propeller planes begin to take off (pun intended), a moon rocket might not be out of the question, and giant apes are climbing New York's fabulous Empire State Building en masse, searching for their lost queen.
23:26 <Cepheid> !log
23:26 <Unixkitty> https://unixkitty.com/logs/EquestriaDaily/latest.log.html
23:26 * Lumindia_ boops Dappled
23:27 <Lumindia_> Schism, those dice are... not technically 3-sided
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23:27 <Schism> They have three sides! (and one curve)
23:27 <Lumindia_> also they're kind of cursed to look at
23:27 <Schism> The latter are also D3s. <.<
23:28 <Lumindia_> I mean, technically they're d6
23:28 <Lumindia_> physically, anyway
23:28 <Schism> hush they only have three numbers
23:28 <Lumindia_> those ain't numbers. :P
23:28 <Schism> -1, 0, and 1! Those are three numbers!
23:29 * Lumindia_ chews on Schism's ear
23:31 * Schism flailyhooves.
23:31 * Dappled checks the list of games he has books for and wants to play. Sees Diablo 2, Dragon Age, EverQuest, and The Legend of Zelda.
23:32 <Schism> mlrp. Be back after I grab a small snack or two from the local grocery, in preparation for tomorrow's long Monday shift.
23:35 * Dappled stares at the Wheel of Time rpg. Wonders if they'll make another one of those since they're doing a tv series.
23:35 * Dappled idly wonders if he has the emulator for the videogame they made
23:36 <Dappled> Nope, lame.
23:59 * Lumindia_ chews on Dappled's ear as well
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