Log archive of EquestriaDaily for Tuesday, 2021-03-02

00:01 * PinkieShy hands Schism a mix drink. (Fireball Whiskey with some coca-cola)

00:03 * Schism passes for now. Fireball's a little sweet for her.

00:05 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: That Current Fun Fan Theory - Is Friendship is Magic Just a TV Show in G5?  [ https://tinyurl.com/y9r3nkzg ]

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00:10 * Ali flops over Schism and drinks pepsi instead

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00:26 <Lumindia_> bepis

00:26 * Ali headtilts at Lumindia_

00:26 * Lumindia_ headtilts back

00:26 * Lumindia_ then boops Ali's snoot with his own snoot

00:27 <Lumindia_> ' w'

00:27 * Ali flailyhooves

00:29 * Lumindia_ applies snuggles

00:29 <Lumindia_> no flail, only snuggle

00:29 <Lumindia_> o vo

00:31 * Schism offers the Lumindia some freshly polished croissants.

00:36 * Ali snuggles into the Lumindia_ lots, unicorn is just feeling like the most unwanted mare ever.

00:37 <Lumindia_> D:

00:37 <Lumindia_> why do you feel unwanted? *hugs tightly*

00:37 <Ali> Third Wheel syndrome

00:37 <Ali> Bottom of the totem pole

00:38 * PinkieShy morphs into a tanuki and runs up to Ali

00:39 * Ali isn't sure what this is supposed to mean

00:41 * Lumindia_ continues snuggling muchly. Doesn't like seeing friend pones sad

00:43 * Ali snugs on the Lumindia_ lots..

00:45 * Lumindia_ removes that dangling underscore

00:45 *** Lumindia_ is now known as Lumindia

00:51 * Ali noms on Lumindia's underscore cause sads

00:51 * Lumindia allows this

00:52 * Lumindia nuzzle. :<

01:05 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Derpy Day Discussion: Fanon Theories, Episode Ideas and More! [ https://tinyurl.com/y9wb596c ]

01:06 * Lumindia crawls into bed, offers Ali a spot and a warm blanket

01:06 <Lumindia> *shall be on discord*

01:06 * Ali curls into the Lumindia and sighs, is not a fan of discord.

01:06 <Lumindia> I don't have IRC on my phone

01:07 <Lumindia> any reason you don't like Discord?

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01:12 <lumin-mobile> there we go

01:13 <PinkieShy> I'm thinking of calling my brother to check on him..

01:13 <PinkieShy> My mom just called and said she just spoke with him a few minutes ago and he couldn't speak..

01:14 <PinkieShy> on top of that like 2 days ago my dad said my brother got sent home from work after failing the covid test his job does daily..

01:14 <PinkieShy> I hope and pray he doesn't have covid oh god o_o

01:14 <PinkieShy> I was just around him the other day as well so if he does i'll probably need to get tested..

01:16 <PinkieShy> But again it might not be covid he has as he did go to get tested for covid a day later after the issue at his job and came back negative and was just told him go to back to get tested again in a few days if he starts feeling sick..

01:16 <PinkieShy> either way.. I feel worry for him :(

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01:26 <lumin-mobile> this client I chose is jank

01:26 <lumin-mobile> off to sleep for me then

01:26 <lumin-mobile> You're all beautiful ponies

01:27 <lumin-mobile> brushes for all of you

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01:49 <PinkieShy> Time to keep an eye on my temperature for a fever to for a few days i guess.

01:49 <PinkieShy> Just to be safe.. Cause i was near him

02:05 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Nightly Discussion #2450 [ https://tinyurl.com/yc4luds8 ]

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03:05 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Everything Wrong With Gauntlet of Fire [ https://tinyurl.com/y9s9fxe9 ]

04:05 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Derpy Day 2020 - Open Art Compilation  [ https://tinyurl.com/y9cwxj93 ]

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04:26 * Finwe hats on Ali.

04:26 * Ali squeaks at Finwe

04:28 * Cepheid flops.

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04:28 * Finwe ponders whether winter and spring 2022 are going to be similar.

04:39 * Schism offers Finwe an Electric Unicorn. It's a fairly good white IPA.

04:40 <Schism> Oh wait, it's early in the morning for you.  o3o;

04:41 <Cepheid> This belief that one can't have a drink before noon is silly.

04:41 <Schism> On one's days off, certainly it's rather absurd.

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05:31 <Cepheid> https://i.imgur.com/bM4HSa8.mp4 Pretty breed.

05:31 <Cepheid> Well, breed/species.

05:32 <Cepheid> Apparently it's quite hissy.

05:32 <Cepheid> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YaGxJMVwSrU

05:32 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.

05:32 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Jaguarundi, a little known cat

05:37 <Schism> They purr, too.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJZbCAFebr8

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05:54 <Cepheid> Hard to believe something like that would kill you.

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05:56 <ConfusionRift> Hello everypony.

05:56 <Cepheid> Heyo.

06:26 <ConfusionRift> Okay guys, listen up! We got a call of a hostage situation with some militia men trying to use innocent people as an example of their norms and practices. We'll be dealing with tight spaces, and very little clue of the status of the hostages or the militia. It's heavily advised to suit up for deterrence, rather than neutralization. | (picks up grenade launcher) | FOR GOD SAKE NO!!!

06:29 <Cepheid> Heh.

06:36 <ConfusionRift> I keep getting curious about the SWAT games, but I know I'm gonna lose my mind with them, especially with the stupid AI.

06:37 <ConfusionRift> Then again, it's usually the case with squad games.

06:37 <ConfusionRift> Not that many issues with Rainbow Six though.

06:38 <ConfusionRift> Oh, and the body damage.

06:39 <Cepheid> Go play the Hitman series instead.  At least there, you can equip a grenade launcher and no one bats an eye.

06:39 <Cepheid> Plus, you know, fun ways to kill people.

06:39 * Ali uses grenade launcher, kills self first.

06:42 <ConfusionRift> The worst part is finishing a level and failing it anyways. Goodbye, half an hour.

06:47 <Cepheid> https://i.imgur.com/Pdd9GYr.jpg

06:47 <ConfusionRift> Hah, some aggressive marketing. :P

06:47 <Cepheid> They knew what they were doing.

06:48 <ConfusionRift> Oooh, you know it.

06:48 <ConfusionRift> Remember, there's no such thing as accidents. :P

06:48 <Cepheid> Unless they're happy accidents.

06:50 <ConfusionRift> Hmm, oh okay, confused it for another truck.

06:50 <Cepheid> Hmm?

06:51 <ConfusionRift> Apparently, a few years ago, someone sued a dealership because their truck appeared in the front lines in Syria, used by insurgents.

06:52 <ConfusionRift> It was another black medium duty truck, hence the confusion.

06:53 <ConfusionRift> Just in case, they knew because it still had their business logo on it.

06:53 <Cepheid> Oh wow.

06:53 <ConfusionRift> What are the odds, huh.

06:55 * Ali flumps under the ConfusionRift

06:55 * ConfusionRift huggles Ali just the same. :P

06:58 <Cepheid> Huh.  I'm 1.1 hours short of 666 hours of playtime on World.

06:59 * ConfusionRift looks at his 125 hours of game time. ._.

07:00 <Cepheid> I took my sweet-arse time.  Apparently people have been able to get to Fatalis in as short as 200 hours.

07:00 <Cepheid> Oh.  Huh.

07:00 <Cepheid> Hey, Schism.

07:00 <Cepheid> Rise is in fact coming to PC in 2022 now.

07:01 <ConfusionRift> You started from scratch too, right? Because I sorta jumped up with the DLC armor.

07:01 <Cepheid> Yerp.

07:01 <ConfusionRift> Yeah, that would add time as well. :P

07:01 <Cepheid> Though I did use the DLC gear on my way to Master Rank.

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07:04 <ConfusionRift> Apparently, the most played would be Starbound, with 509 hours, followed by Terraria with 507, and... Factorio? 404?!

07:05 <Ali> I have 3 games over 1k hours

07:07 <Ali> Terraria sits at 633

07:13 <ConfusionRift> Man, it's been a while.

07:13 <Ali> Since?

07:14 <ConfusionRift> Apparently, December of last year... but I don't remember playing that recently.

07:15 * ConfusionRift checks tMod Loader.

07:15 <ConfusionRift> July of last year. That makes more sense.

07:15 <ConfusionRift> And I'm afraid to touch that. It's been a while, and I know an update is gonna be just an absolute mess.

07:30 <Ali> Well Terraria is 1.4.1

07:30 <Ali> There's some good things and some ehs

07:31 <Ali> For me right now its that point of hardmode to getting the mech bosses down

07:31 <Ali> And I wanted to try melee

07:31 <Ali> But my lord is that class awful.

07:31 <ConfusionRift> Melee is still a pain. The best melee weapons so far are still the least melee weapons. :P

07:32 <ConfusionRift> Also, solo tanking puts you in a bad spot.

07:33 <Ali> Pretty much

07:33 <Ali> And the weapons that do have range are few and far between

07:33 <Ali> Since the solar eruption is one of the better ones, but its post lunar cultist

07:34 <ConfusionRift> And good luck dealing with that mess. :P Those butts huuuurt.

07:35 <ConfusionRift> And then... the aftermath. The Moonlord is not exactly melee friendly.

07:35 <Ali> Again you can get the solar eruption by going to the awful solar pillar first

07:36 <Ali> But I feel like ranged and summons have a better day at things

07:36 <Ali> But then again ConfusionRift, you haven't seen some of the busted weapons they added in 1.4

07:36 <Ali> Too bad one of them requires you to kill a boss while she's enraged

07:37 <ConfusionRift> Oh, I'm aware of the new weapons. I have played 1.4. :P

07:38 * Ali doesn't remember well..

07:38 <ConfusionRift> I did beat it in Journey, while set to Hard difficulty to compensate. It's still pain, just a bit more mitigated... especially for range. Still need to beat the game legitimately in normal.

07:39 <ConfusionRift> My wall is still Plantera.

07:43 <Ali> I do hate Plantera as the Jungle is just a mess to fight her, along with both finding the bulb and having an arena which sounds like a massive pain to do.

07:44 <ConfusionRift> I'm aware of the Zenith and the Terraprisma. Problem is getting them. One requires higher tier weapons, which require crafting and good luck. And the other you need to kill the bullethell empress.

07:44 <ConfusionRift> During the day.

07:44 <ConfusionRift> Which gives her a stupid damage boost and speed.

07:45 <Ali> She basically one shots you

07:46 <Ali> I've done day empress one time

07:49 <ConfusionRift> I have never found the Lacewing.

07:49 <Ali> Helps to have the rare mob detector item

07:53 <ConfusionRift> Yep, don't have the achievement. I vaguely remember seeing it displayed on the analyzer, but just could never find it.

07:56 <ConfusionRift> Because it's great that the game tells me something is around me, but never tells me exactly where, so chances are I'm moving away from it, causing it to despawn. Huzzaaaaaaaaaaaaahhh.

07:57 * Cepheid craves bread and water. A lot of bread and water.

07:58 <ConfusionRift> Well, that's one way to never be hungry. :P

07:58 <Cepheid> Yeah, but it's a bit random and out of left field.

08:05 <ConfusionRift> It happens. Still have that craving for a cream cheese filled donut, but it's been like that for years.

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08:07 <Cepheid> I just ate a quarter of a loaf of bread, a bread roll, and drank about a litre and a half of water.

08:09 <Cepheid> I feel really bloated now.  x.x

08:10 <ConfusionRift> Yep, that'll happen.

08:10 <Cepheid> Combine with meds to knock me out, I'll likely be out in an hour.

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08:51 <ConfusionRift> Getting cooold.

08:51 <Cepheid> Yep.

08:52 <ConfusionRift> You know what? That's fine. That means no bugs.

08:56 * Cepheid sends a Seltas to bug ConfusionRift.

08:58 * ConfusionRift hears loud buzzing. "the heck is that?" He hears REALLY loud buzzing now! "Okay, what's going o-" The seltas break through the window. "Aaah! Big bug!"

08:59 <ConfusionRift> It's still winter! Go away!

08:59 <Cepheid> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGyfdtW5zn0

08:59 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.

08:59 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Grievous with too many lightsabers [Extended Version]

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08:59 <ConfusionRift> Pfffttt!!! :P

09:25 * Golden flops.

09:45 <Finwe> Lt Cdr ConfusionRift, Capt Koopz; Messrs Cepheid and Golden.

09:45 <Finwe> o7

09:46 <Finwe> Good forenoon, everypony!

09:47 <ConfusionRift> RAdm. Finwe. (salutes)

09:47 <Koopz> RAdm. Finwe o7

09:49 <Golden> Hey

09:58 * Finwe noms on his lunch, fried salmon and steamed broccoli.

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10:15 <Heartbreak> Monkeys.

10:16 <Heartbreak> I hope LIbrarianofhope is ok...

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10:22 <Finwe> Apes.

10:23 <Heartbreak> Grapes.

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10:33 * Lumindia waves to Heartbreak

10:33 <Lumindia> Morning

10:38 * Heartbreak boops Lumindia.

10:38 * Lumindia falls over... counterboops Heartbreak, as they booped them first

10:38 <Heartbreak> D:

10:38 * Heartbreak boop boops Lumindi!

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10:58 <Lumindia> Aaa

10:58 * Lumindia counter-counter boops

10:58 <Lumindia> Boop war!

11:05 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Morning Discussion #2221 [ https://tinyurl.com/yd67c2hr ]

11:05 * Heartbreak counter-clockwise boops Lumindia!

11:06 <Lumindia> wait what

11:06 <Lumindia> how does that even work?

11:06 * Lumindia is bamboozled by how a counter-clockwise boop works

11:06 * Heartbreak widdershins boops Lumindia!

11:06 <Lumindia> what even is a widdershin?

11:07 <Heartbreak> I am the egg-mare, coo-coo-ka-jube.

11:07 <Lumindia> You're very silly

11:07 <Heartbreak> Counter clockwise.

11:11 * Lumindia declares Heartbreak to be a very silly pony

11:25 * ConfusionRift surprise boops Lumindia.

11:25 <Lumindia> janefkow

11:34 <Finwe> Apes of Wrath. o3o

12:05 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: SFM: Valentines Day Gift For The Mane Six Hearts & Hooves Day [ https://tinyurl.com/ybrnb8aq ]

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12:43 <Lumindia> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMbN9nb3qyk

12:43 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.

12:43 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about High-voltage disconnect-switch arcing

12:43 <Lumindia> haha electricity go brrrrrrrr

12:44 <ConfusionRift> BrrrrzzZZZZZZTTT! Just burning the air around the arc. :P

12:47 <ConfusionRift> Only heard something like this when there was a transformer blowout.

12:57 * ConfusionRift crashes to sleep.

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13:40 <Finwe> Miss Angeline.

13:41 * Finwe doffs his hat.

13:51 <RazorSharpFang> Is anyone here good with Maths?

13:52 <Finwe> Well, I'm a mathematician.

13:53 <RazorSharpFang> How does projection like the WGS84 projection work?

13:54 <Finwe> It's just a linear transformation of space.

13:54 <RazorSharpFang> It is just a linear-transformation ? Can you do it through matrix multiplication?

13:55 <Finwe> Yes.

13:55 <Cyan_Spark> Razor the investor

13:55 <Finwe> Mr Cyan_Spark.

13:55 * Finwe doffs his hat.

13:55 <Cyan_Spark> Sgt. Finwe

13:56 <RazorSharpFang> Hey heys

13:56 <Finwe> The defining property of any projection P is that P²=P^(-1).

13:57 <RazorSharpFang> That confuzles me.

13:57 <Finwe> The defining property of any projection P is that P²=P.

13:57 <Finwe> Not P^(-1).

13:57 <RazorSharpFang> Is that reprojecting it gives you the original back?

13:58 <Finwe> If you apply the projection several times, it does not alter the image.

14:00 <Finwe> E.g. the Mercator projection projects a sphere onto a cylinder wrapped around it, with the projection rays being orthogonal to the sphere.

14:02 <Finwe> The Mercator projection is often used for e.g. maritime charts because it is direction-preserving.

14:02 <RazorSharpFang> Yeah, our use is navigation - hence the mercator.

14:02 <Finwe> It doesn't preserve areas, though.

14:03 <Finwe> The areas far from where the cylinder is tanget to the sphere get scaled up.

14:04 <RazorSharpFang> Yeah, I've seen that.

14:07 <Finwe> The holy differential geometry says that you cannot map the sphere onto a planar surface so that the mapping is both conformal and authalic (shape- and area-preserving).

14:08 <RazorSharpFang> In this particular application, there's a projection specification that is supposed to define the mapping of polar coordinates to UTM coordinates, but it's only valid for a small region of the earth.

14:10 <Finwe> Polar? You mean spherical?

14:10 <RazorSharpFang> Yeah, that's the word I couldn't come up with.

14:12 <Finwe> (r,φ,θ) is the spherical coordinate triple, but if we approximate the earth with a sphere, then r is constant and only the angular coordinates vary.

14:14 <Finwe> Universal Transverse Mercator takes a slice of earth's surface small enough and uses Mercator projection there to get reasonable accuracy for areas and shapes.

14:15 <RazorSharpFang> Ah that's what UTM stands for.

14:17 * Finwe nodnods.

14:17 <Finwe> The slices are 6° longitude wide, with some exceptions.

14:18 <Finwe> 31N through 37N are modified.

14:20 * NitroTheFurry reads all this then decides to go back to sleep

14:21 <Finwe> And also 31X, 33X, 35X and 37X.

14:21 <Finwe> And the even X-zones between those are not used.

14:22 <RazorSharpFang> Those are new to me.

14:24 <Finwe> The N-slices are regular up to the U-zones, 31V and 32V are modified to fit Southern Norway into zone 32V.

14:24 <Finwe> Like that: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Transverse_Mercator_coordinate_system#/media/File:LA2-Europe-UTM-zones.png

14:24 <RazorSharpFang> Ah

14:25 <Finwe> The missing X-zones ensure that Svalbard is spread sensibly between the zones.

14:25 <Finwe> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Transverse_Mercator_coordinate_system#/media/File:Modified_UTM_Zones.png

14:25 <Finwe> Like that.

14:26 <Finwe> Without the omission of 32X, 34X and 36X, Svalbard would span six zones.

14:27 <Finwe> Which would be quite a lot for a couple of smallish islands.

14:27 <RazorSharpFang> And this is done primarily to get better area representations?

14:28 <Finwe> Those modifications are done only to fit parts of Norway onto a smaller number of zones.

14:29 <RazorSharpFang> I meant the UTM system itself, instead of just having a Mercator projection.

14:30 <Finwe> Yes, you basically place your cylinder so that it is tangent to the surface of the earth along the midline of the zone.

14:31 <Finwe> Or the slice, actually.

14:31 <Finwe> The latitude bands are strictly speaking not a part of the UTM system.

14:32 <RazorSharpFang> Must be annoying to have things that cross those.

14:32 <Finwe> They come from MGRS, the Military Gid Reference System.

14:32 <RazorSharpFang> The military invents like, half of things.

14:34 <Finwe> The grid zone designator identifies a UTM zone and a latitude band, so you know which 6° x 8° zone we're speaking of.

14:35 <Finwe> I live in 32W, for example.

14:35 <Finwe> 35W, not 32.

14:37 <Finwe> The next two letters, if given, define the 100 km x 100 km square within the zone.

14:38 <RazorSharpFang> Ah, so you define a smaller subregion too

14:38 <Finwe> And then you can give x and y coordinates up to 1 m precision.

14:39 <RazorSharpFang> More precision is always better, right?

14:40 <Finwe> E.g. 35WFJ 12345 67890.

14:40 <Finwe> Would be zone 35W square FJ 12345 metres east and 67890 metres north from the lower left corner.

14:41 <RazorSharpFang> Hmm, we're running at higher precision than that - is there a variant where you specify sub-metre precision?

14:42 <Finwe> I guess you could generalise by adding more numbers.

14:43 <Finwe> It's just not very useful for example with GPS, where one metre is about the best precision you get.

14:44 <RazorSharpFang> We're running dedicated multi-antenna recievers and are receiving real-time corrections from base-stations.

14:46 <RazorSharpFang> I'm just struggling on how to do the maths to go from Degrees, minutes, seconds to UTM northing and easting.

14:47 <Finwe> It should be easy.

14:49 <RazorSharpFang> But is it equally easy to write programming code to do it?

14:49 <Finwe> Northings are commensurate with degrees latitude, but the distance between meridians is a function of latitude.

14:51 <Finwe> 1° longitude is 1/360 times the circumference of earth at the equator and zero at poles, and the scaling should be linear.

14:55 <Finwe> So two points with a difference of 1° of longitude on the same latitude are (90-L)/90 x C/360 units of length apart from each other, where C is the circumference of earth and L is the latitude in degrees.

14:55 <Finwe> Either that, or I've done something fundamentally wrong. o3o

14:55 <RazorSharpFang> They sometimes introduce weird things, like they have "north" being 1 degree away from north to make the map "look straight"

14:57 <Finwe> Maps over coastal towns were traditionally drawn with the sea being downwards on the map, regardless of whether it was south or not.

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15:02 <Finwe> One degree of latitude is, of course, always 1/360th of the circumference of earth, but that should be obvious.

15:03 <RazorSharpFang> Naturally.

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15:05 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Comic: Future 57 / Peanut Butter / AQM 67 / Spark 25 / Fix 4:9 [ https://tinyurl.com/ycno4c27 ]

15:17 <RazorSharpFang> But yeah, I'm finding the implementation difficult.

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15:25 <Fluttershy> HI!

15:26 <Finwe> Hello, Fluttershy.

15:26 * Finwe hugs the Fluttershy.

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15:28 <Fluttershy> Why. WHY with the glitches!

15:28 <Fluttershy> Typo.

15:28 <Finwe> o3o

15:30 <Fluttershy> typing while listening to school. :)

15:31 <Fluttershy> teacher is boring. I needed something to do. :)

15:32 <Fluttershy> Now how to turn the emoji upside down. (:

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16:27 <Fluttershy> Hi!

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16:32 <LibrarianofHope> hi

16:32 <LibrarianofHope> havent seen a pure pony nick in a while

16:33 <Fluttershy> How is everyone! It's been a while sense I was on last. Before today.

16:33 <RazorSharpFang> I am profitable.

16:33 <LibrarianofHope> im better, i overcame covid and am working on the muscle pain

16:33 <Fluttershy> My mom overcame covid.

16:34 <LibrarianofHope> owo

16:34 <LibrarianofHope> thtas great

16:35 <Fluttershy> Yea, she didn't tell me until she was over it. At the time, I thought it was the flu.

16:35 <RazorSharpFang> "'Tis just a flu"

16:35 <LibrarianofHope> it can be a very bad flu in the best case

16:35 <LibrarianofHope> i had very small symptoms

16:36 <LibrarianofHope> but i was stuffef to the gills with medicine

16:36 <Fluttershy> Yup. Just a VERY bad flu. and it doesnt help the hospital put them in tents.

16:37 <LibrarianofHope> it will stop, the vaccines are being applied

16:38 <LibrarianofHope> my current problem is i am in quarantinre, dont move much

16:38 <LibrarianofHope> muscle athophy

16:38 <LibrarianofHope> it hurts like a bleeep

16:38 <RazorSharpFang> You can still do stuff like squats, dances and whatnot.

16:38 <Fluttershy> The hospital should let the go OUTSIDE in stead of keeping them in tents!

16:39 <LibrarianofHope> nope, cause we are contagious

16:39 <LibrarianofHope> i for example really want to go walk my dog

16:39 <LibrarianofHope> but i still need to quarantine a week

16:39 <LibrarianofHope> i feel fine, but i am still contagious

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16:40 <Fluttershy> I use different usernames in case of a problem.

16:40 <RazorSharpFang> There are always problems. Sometimes, solutions are problems that only appear as problems later.

16:41 <Fluttershy> huh?

16:41 <RazorSharpFang> "I fixed it" - No, you delayed the bigger problem, you still have to deal with that.

16:42 <Fluttershy> usually, I use this username.

16:42 <RazorSharpFang> But that's fine, I'm a professional problem-solver.

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16:43 <LibrarianofHope> i was just given a pill by my doctor , an antiinflammatory

16:44 <LibrarianofHope> do you two want a free book by the way?

16:44 <LibrarianofHope> im running a giveaway owo

16:44 <Finwe> o3o

16:45 <Fluttershy> I'm used to using Common sense than Common Ciriulum.

16:45 <LibrarianofHope> https://www.amazon.com/-/es/Jose-Moreno-ebook/dp/B083ZM57HZ

16:45 <LibrarianofHope> download it on kindle, its free

16:47 <Fluttershy> I read o wattpad via Ipad and powerless on kindle

16:47 <LibrarianofHope> powerless?

16:47 <NitroTheFurry> Physical books?

16:48 <Fluttershy> no, fictional book. Look it up. https://www.google.com/search?q=powerlessbook&tbm=isch&ved=2ahUKEwibo6WIiJLvAhUHD60KHasbCXkQ2-cCegQIABAA&oq=powerlessbook&gs_lcp=CgNpbWcQA1DGB1i3CmDsCmgAcAB4AIABAIgBAJIBAJgBAKABAaoBC2d3cy13aXotaW1nwAEB&sclient=img&ei=XWw-YNuALYeetAWrt6TIBw&rlz=1CAOLTF_enUS914&safe=active&ssui=on#imgrc=XpcyUJPIrLZSuM

16:49 <Fluttershy> see what I mean?

16:50 <LibrarianofHope> ahh

16:50 <LibrarianofHope> read mine

16:50 <LibrarianofHope> its free if nothing else

16:50 <Fluttershy> ok!.

16:50 <LibrarianofHope> thank you owo, it make me happy to share my book

16:51 <Finwe> Ook.

16:51 <LibrarianofHope> ook

16:51 <LibrarianofHope> sweet goddesses the pain is reciding

16:51 <Fluttershy> If you go on wattpad, I have published 4 books. I have only finished one.

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16:52 <LibrarianofHope> i tried wattpad, i didnt like it for some reason

16:52 <Fluttershy> I'll post the link while I'm on my Great Aunt Patsy's Computer

16:52 <LibrarianofHope> ill be happy to read it owo

16:52 <LibrarianofHope> i published Ragefire on Amazon cuase its convenient

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16:53 <Fluttershy> It is called Reader x Genesis Rhapsodos. Or just look up YuffiexSephiroth, my username.

16:54 <Fluttershy> Then there is one called Yuffie Kisaragi x Sephiroth Crasent.

16:55 <Fluttershy> The second oe I mentioned Is WAY more popular.

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17:01 <Fluttershy> After this google meet, I'll have all the time in the world. to type and do school work.

17:02 <LibrarianofHope> ill take some time to read em

17:02 <LibrarianofHope> i want to write more, but i hadnt had the time, then pain

17:03 <Fluttershy> Thanks! If you like them, don't hesitate to comment AND like them!

17:03 <LibrarianofHope> same with my novel, please leave a review

17:03 <LibrarianofHope> its hard to get reviews

17:03 <Fluttershy> I worked really hard on both of them on.

17:05 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Makenshi: Fluttermusic: Fetlocked & Char - Flutter's Bane [Drum & Bass] [ https://tinyurl.com/y935bbhs ]

17:10 <Fluttershy> mainly cause I dont speak spanish

17:10 <Fluttershy> and it tecnically, is foreighn language

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17:17 <Fluttershy> doing I-Ready

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17:38 * Schism makes for her lunch some eggs, rice, peameal bacon, and vegetables.

17:39 <Finwe> Miss Schism.

17:39 * Finwe doffs his flute.

17:39 * Fluttershy plays Ocorina Of Time

17:40 * Fluttershy plays Breath Of The Wild

17:40 <Fluttershy> Don't ask

17:41 <Fluttershy> I like playing LOZ games.

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17:44 <Schism> rAdm. Finwe.

17:44 * Schism doffs her Southern-styled rice hash.

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17:47 <Finwe> I was playing this while waiting for my clean laundry: https://www.flutetunes.com/tunes/schubert-erlkonig.pdf

17:48 <Fluttershy> huh

17:50 <Finwe> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JS91p-vmSf0

17:50 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.

17:50 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Franz Schubert: Erlkönig

17:51 <Fluttershy> There's a twilight?

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18:02 <Finwe> Fluttershy: The translation is here, in case you don't understand German: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erlk%C3%B6nig

18:03 <LibrarianofHope> i feel better than ive fel in days

18:04 <LibrarianofHope> and thtas why you need exercise it seems

18:05 <Fluttershy> thank u. I don't know german

18:05 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: New Equestria Girls Fashion Squad Pony Life Figures Revelaed  [ https://tinyurl.com/yd6uhkyt ]

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18:20 * Angeline stretches her little self out.

18:21 * Finwe hats on Angeline.

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18:25 <Schism> Ah, so that's why Mae hasn't been updating.  All is, of course, forgiven.  https://twitter.com/reallifecomics/status/1366803420493979651

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19:05 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Drawfriend Stuff (Pony Art Gallery) #3622 [ https://tinyurl.com/y75p4cm9 ]

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19:30 <Fluttershy> Hi!

19:33 * Cepheid flops.

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19:52 * Finwe runs Vulkan benchmarks on his secondary computer.

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19:53 <Cepheid> Heh.

19:53 <Cepheid> Vulkan is... interesting.

19:53 <Cepheid> Much harder to use, but if used right, it performs better than OpenGL.

19:55 <Finwe> Despite the rather ancient GPU I get over 3000 FPS in 800x600 windowed mode for some of the benchmarks.

19:55 <Finwe> In 1900x1200 fullscreen mode the figures are understandably substantially lower.

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19:58 <Fluttershy> Hey everyone!!

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20:04 <Cepheid> Finwe, depending on the memory, I would assume performance to be approximately 1/4th.

20:04 <Cepheid> If the memory capacity/speed isn't good enough for 1900x1200, then yeah I could see it being even lower.

20:05 <Fluttershy> Like always, I never know what Cephid talks about.

20:05 <Finwe> My GPU is a GTX 645 with one gigabyte of GDDR5 memory.

20:06 <Fluttershy> oops. I acidentally spelled it wrong. again.

20:06 <Cepheid> Well, memory capacity appears to be fine.  So speed would be the issue, then.

20:07 <Cepheid> Fluttershy:  Finwe's doing some Vulkan API tests on an ancient computer.  He was commenting on the performance, and I was commenting on how things might differ at a higher resolution.

20:07 <Fluttershy> Oh.

20:07 <Cepheid> That said, I'm being optimistic about it being 1/4th the performance at doubling the resolution.  It's probably even lower.

20:08 <Cepheid> What's the framerate at 1900x1200, Finwe?

20:08 <Fluttershy> I still have no clue what it means. Hand me a dictionary.

20:08 <Cepheid> What words are confusing you?

20:09 <Fluttershy> No. I'm only a 4th grader.

20:09 <Finwe> Cepheid: Varies from 1.661 ms/frame for effect2d kernel=blur to 0.688 s/frame for cube.

20:09 <Cepheid> I can still try to explain.

20:10 <Fluttershy> please do.

20:10 <Cepheid> So 602 FPS for the first test, and... 1,453 FPS for the cube.

20:10 <Cepheid> Well, I guess it depends on how much of the screen is being touched, too.

20:11 <Finwe> 0.688 was also milliseconds, as you correctly guessed.

20:11 <Cepheid> Fluttershy:  Vulkan - A technology used for drawing 3D stuff in video games.  API - Stands for Application Programming Interface, it's what people like me work with to use the specified technology.

20:12 <Cepheid> Framerate - How many "frames" are shown per second.  A frame is a single drawn image on the screen.

20:12 <Fluttershy> I know what a milisecond is.

20:12 <Cepheid> He was speaking to me in that case. o3o

20:12 <Cepheid> He wrote down s/frame when he meant ms/frame.

20:13 <Fluttershy> a fraction of a second is a millisecond.

20:13 <Cepheid> Eeeehhh...  That's a simplified, and incorrect way of expressing it.

20:13 <Cepheid> It's 1/1000th of a second.

20:13 <Cepheid> If you go to to higher resolution than that, the names start to change.  Microseconds, Nanoseconds, Picoseconds, etc.

20:14 <Cepheid> Finwe, I have a question for you with respect to the naming of fractional seconds.

20:14 <Finwe> o3o?

20:15 <Cepheid> I sometimes see people express a millisecond as 1/100th of a second.  Any idea why they would do that?

20:15 <Finwe> Those would be centiseconds, but no one really uses that.

20:16 <Cepheid> I also sometimes see milliseconds expressed as 1/10th.

20:16 <Cepheid> It's inconsistent.

20:16 <Fluttershy> a millisecond must be 1/1000th of a second?

20:16 <Cepheid> I've always understood milliseconds to be 1/1000th of a second.

20:16 <Cepheid> As that's how it is consistently expressed in programming.

20:16 <Finwe> "Milli" is consistently 10^(-3).

20:17 <Finwe> Any other use is clearly erroneous.

20:17 <Cepheid> So then I wonder where the inconsistency stems from.

20:17 <Cepheid> I'm assuming just simple misunderstanding.

20:17 <Fluttershy> If it has mass, it cant go faster the the speed of light. If it has no mass, it can travel FASTER than the speed of light.

20:18 <Cepheid> But yeah, in computing, frametimes are usually expressed in milliseconds.

20:19 <Cepheid> Which are 1/1000th of a second.

20:19 <Finwe> Fluttershy: Depends on what "it" is.

20:19 <Cepheid> I suspect that'll change as refresh rates continue to increase.

20:19 <Finwe> In the current standard model + general relativity, no particle can exceed the speed of light.

20:19 <Finwe> Information can, though.

20:19 <Cepheid> Because as they increase, we get closer and closer to a frame taking 1/1000th of a second.  After which we have to start counting either in fractions of a millisecond, which seems to be what we're doing NOW, or..

20:20 <Cepheid> I'm still of the belief that our understanding that light is the fastest thing in existence is somehow wrong.

20:20 <Cepheid> It seems such an arbitrary limit.

20:21 <Finwe> It's rather a property of the four-dimensional space-time than a speed limit.

20:22 <Cepheid> Mmm.

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20:25 <Cepheid> My understanding of astrophysics is pretty bleh.  But I do have a question regarding the speed of light and Hawking radiation.  Presuming that not even light can escape the event horizon of a black hole, wouldn't a particle escaping the grasp of a black hole mean that it's moving faster than the speed of light?

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20:29 <Cepheid> I'm assuming that's wrong, though, because of my lack of understanding of physics.

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20:31 <Finwe> Cepheid: I think that would mean that the particle in question has, in some sense, negative mass.

20:32 <Cepheid> Which is probable, given we're not exactly SURE what causes mass in the first place.

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20:36 <Cepheid> In any case, it's outside my area of expertise.  And while I plan to replicate physics in my games, I plan to use approximations of it.  Since I can't do continuous integration physics with discrete timesteps.

20:36 <Cepheid> Also, limitations of mathematics in general.

20:37 <Fluttershy> If something has NO MASS WHAT SO EVER it CAN go faster than light.

20:38 <Fluttershy> It has been proven by science.

20:38 * Cepheid shrugs.

20:38 <Finwe> A photon has zero rest mass, yet it cannot go faster than light (as photons are light).

20:39 <Fluttershy> And light can't go faster than itself.

20:39 <Finwe> But it is true that we've been able to transfer information at speeds faster than lightspeed.

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20:40 <Fluttershy> so, Finwe

20:40 <Fluttershy> Finwe

20:40 <Fluttershy> Finwe and Cephied: light can not go faster than itself.

20:40 <Cepheid> And doing so doesn't necessarily mean time travel.  It just means shorter traversal time.  As it is, data transmission at the speed of light still results in significant amounts of latency.

20:40 <Fluttershy> light has mass.

20:41 <Fluttershy> drop it.

20:41 <Finwe> The mass defined by the relativistic momentum, yes.

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20:43 <Fluttershy> U too Finwee!

20:44 <Cepheid> For the love of-

20:44 <Cepheid> Calm down, kid.

20:44 <Fluttershy> Bye.

20:44 <Cepheid> Geezus christ, what the hell is your problem?  Why are you so forceful about us dropping a discussion about the speed of light?

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20:45 <Cepheid> It's not breaking your worldview or anything, we're just discussing it.

20:47 <Fluttershy> Least I got him to leave me alone.

20:48 <Fluttershy> Cepheid has left the building... for me at least

20:48 <Cepheid> I'm still very much here, and I still think you're an annoying little git right now.

20:50 * Ali is very confused as to what's going on.

20:50 <Fluttershy> uh oh...

20:50 <Cepheid> Fluttershy is having a childish temper tantrum over a discussion about the speed of light.

20:50 <Cepheid> And harassed me about it in private and here.

20:50 <Ali> Yeah, don't do that

20:50 <Cepheid> And in another channel.

20:50 <Cepheid> So they're being a prick.

20:51 <Cepheid> It's fine.

20:51 <Cepheid> I just wish they'd stop pinging me about it.

20:51 <Ali> That I cannot stop sadly

20:51 <Cepheid> Mmm.

20:51 <Cepheid> I'll just add them to ignore if they keep doing it.

20:51 <Cepheid> I'd prefer not to, because that's a mean way to handle it, but..

20:52 <Fluttershy> What? I was ticked off with the way he was talking about physics!

20:52 <Ali> There's discussions

20:52 <Ali> Then there's crying

20:52 <Cepheid> We were discussing the speed of light in a civil manner, and you just up and started screaming at us and telling us to drop it as if we were practically attacking your god or goddess.

20:53 <Cepheid> It's like, the most illogical response I've ever seen.

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20:53 <Cepheid> Of course, you can't see anything I'm seeing because you got me on ignore, but..

20:53 <Ali> They left, it doesn't matter now

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20:54 <Ali> Or just trying the old nick switch

20:54 <Zelda> I did

20:54 <Ali> Still doesn't stop certain things

20:54 <Ali> Its easy to just nuke a hostmask

20:54 <Zelda> I'm glad about how we can do that to get out of bad situations.

20:54 <Ali> Not really

20:55 <Ali> Just changing a nick doesn't stop a problem

20:55 <Cepheid> Yeah, changing your nickname doesn't help.

20:55 <Ali> Especially in a place where it shows your hostmask

20:55 <Ali> So no matter how many times you change your nick, the mask is the same

20:55 <Zelda> uh....it does that?

20:55 <Cepheid> Yep.

20:56 <Cepheid> I can also do a /whowas on your other nickname to compare with.

20:56 <Zelda> Oh shoot.

20:56 <Cepheid> So you're not hiding from me that easily.

20:56 <Ali> Or me

20:56 <Zelda> Uh...bye!

20:56 <Ali> Being an IRCOP leads you to watch the hostmasks

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20:56 <Cepheid> Ah, children.

20:57 <Cepheid> I'll be back in a few minutes.  Parents are home, gonna go say hi.

20:57 <Ali> How discord has softened them

20:57 <Crimson_Tail> Ain't fooling anyone there.

20:57 <Ali> Not to people who have used IRC for years

21:01 <Crimson_Tail> Years. used to be an ircop somewhere else

21:01 <Crimson_Tail> Really anyone who knows how the thing works

21:02 <Ali> Yeah, just people think switching nicks makes them immune to their own dumbness

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21:05 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Pony Statuettes, Customs, and Crafts #183 [ https://tinyurl.com/y9buvfxk ]

21:05 <Ali> Now that was just rude

21:05 <Cepheid> They're really struggling to hide their presence from me.

21:06 <Ali> No, the fact they chose DashedRainbows as a nick is what I'm talking about

21:06 * Ali forgot an o there

21:06 <Cepheid> Not theirs, right?

21:06 <Ali> I highly doubt it

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21:06 <Crimson_Tail> The lightspeed deal does remind me of the time I used to run an RP chat room

21:06 <Ali> You're not hiding yourself well

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21:07 <Crimson_Tail> Had to stop someone cuz their character was doing lightspeed flying

21:07 <Crimson_Tail> And then they went ballistic

21:07 <Cepheid> At first, I doubted they were a fourth grader, but now I'm starting to think that's the case.

21:07 <Cepheid> They remind me of when I first started using IRC.

21:08 <Cepheid> I was a kid at the time, and didn't understand how it worked, and learned a lot the hard way.

21:08 <Crimson_Tail> Cuz too bad, I'm applying some physics here and there

21:08 <Crimson_Tail> Sounds sorta like my case

21:08 <Cepheid> Eh.  I learned eventually.

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21:08 <Cepheid> Went so far as to make an IRC server in mIRC script.

21:08 <Cepheid> What ARE they doing?

21:09 <Ali> I have no idea

21:09 <Ali> But the real DashedRainbows had a custom mask

21:09 <Cepheid> Well, their client earlier was connecting and disconnecting repeatedly.

21:09 <Cepheid> Maybe it's the same thing.

21:09 <Ali> There's a few people that seem to have that problem

21:09 <Ali> But honestly

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21:09 <Ali> choosing that nick of all things

21:10 <Cepheid> In this case, I'm thinking it's more along the lines of "They're checking to see something."

21:10 <Ali> If they think the hot water on them is down, its not

21:10 <Ali> and doing the spam chat of in out just irks me more and more

21:10 <Cepheid> Meh.

21:10 <Cepheid> I was more annoyed by the demanding tone.

21:11 <Cepheid> It's like... we're just discussing the speed of light and physics.  Why are you demanding we stop the topic as if it were something controversial, like politics or religion?

21:11 <Ali> I'm more annoyed they're using a nick of someone I miss and are using it just to annoy

21:11 <Cepheid> Yeah, unfortunately I cannot get any information as to who DashedRainbows was, at one point.  The nickname registration expired, and /whowas isn't returning anything.

21:12 <Ali> I used logs to dig things

21:12 <Ali> Like I said already, they had a custom hostmask

21:12 <Cepheid> But it's most likely not them, as I don't remember a DashedRainbows ever throwing a tantrum like that.

21:12 <Ali> Eeyup

21:13 <Cepheid> So, Schism, you were right about MH:Rise on PC.

21:14 <Cepheid> Which presents a conundrum.

21:15 <Cepheid> Basically, do I grab Rise this month and play it, or do I wait until 2022 to play it?

21:15 <Ali> So why is Rise going to be so late on PC?

21:16 <Cepheid> Exclusivity.

21:16 <Cepheid> What else?

21:16 <Ali> Switch won the one year deal huh?

21:17 <Cepheid> More or less.

21:17 <Cepheid> That, and Rise was intended to be portable to begin with I think.

21:19 <Cepheid> Here's hoping Capcom implements a character transfer system.

21:19 <Cepheid> Because I guarantee once the PC version comes out, there'll be an exodus to it.

21:19 <Cepheid> That, or cross-platform play.

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21:26 <Finwe> Miss Ali.

21:26 * Finwe doffs his hat.

21:28 <Finwe> R9 280 scores 5812 for the default 800x600 window and 4581 for 1920x1200 fullscreen.

21:29 <Finwe> Took some time to get vkmark up and running because Ubuntu doesn't have anything like AUR.

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21:30 <Ali> You're not fooling anyone anymore

21:30 <Ali> And really, why are you using nicks of a pony that doesn't come by here anymore?

21:30 <Finwe> My friend got 6573 for the default window on a GTX 980.

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21:30 <Ali> What a convenient connection closed huh

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21:34 * Finwe hugs the Ali.

21:34 * Ali leans into the Finwe hugs.

21:36 <Cepheid> Finwe, what's the test you're using?

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21:39 <Finwe> Cepheid: vkmark

21:39 <Cepheid> Ah, I'll run it on my PC later.  Right now I got an oral test for Japanese to do.

21:39 <Finwe> https://github.com/vkmark/vkmark

21:41 * Finwe hides under Ali because of https://www.euronews.com/2021/03/02/covid-19-unrealistic-for-pandemic-to-be-over-by-year-end-says-who

21:41 <Cepheid> Yeah I'm familiar with it.

21:44 <Finwe> My systems were Core i5-2400 @ 3.10GHz, 16GB DDR3 1667MHz and GTX 645 with 1GB, and 2 x Xeon E5462 @ 2.8GHz with 14GB 667MHz DDR2 and R9 2800 with 3GB.

21:44 <Finwe> *R9 280

21:45 <Finwe> My laptop has GT 9600M, which does not support Vulkan.

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21:56 <TwilightSparkle> Odd little disconnect

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22:00 *** ChanServ sets mode: +qo Ali Ali

22:00 <Cepheid> "The oral test will have 13 questions."  *Listens to oral questions, there's like, 20 questions overall.*

22:00 <Cepheid> ...

22:04 <Ali> Math is hard

22:04 <LibrarianofHope> math is quite hard yes

22:05 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Makenshi: PINKIE Music: Altius Volantis - Pinkie's Morning [Orchestral] [ https://tinyurl.com/y9zn3wbk ]

22:05 * LibrarianofHope polishes Ali

22:07 * Schism|Nocturne flumps. "Boy, what a year, huh?"

22:08 *** Schism|Nocturne is now known as Schism

22:08 <LibrarianofHope> its only march

22:12 <Schism> https://www.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/5ro9os/what_a_year_huh/

22:26 * Schism sighs, and flumps again. "Congratulations, Governor Abbott, for your plan to kill tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands, of your constituents.

22:32 <Cepheid> Well, I botched that test.  How and why?

22:32 <Cepheid> Because I was late by 30 seconds in submitting.

22:33 * Schism facepalms.

22:33 <Cepheid> Yeah.

22:33 <Cepheid> I've already accepted I'm likely not going to pass this course.

22:33 <Cepheid> But it's annoying, I was under the impression it had to be submitted by 5:35 PM, not 5:30.

22:34 <Cepheid> Even if I do pass it, I plan to re-take the 2nd year Japanese classes, but do the non-intensive versions.

22:34 <Cepheid> So Schism, it turns out Rise is coming to PC in 2022.

22:35 <Cepheid> I'm just going to focus on learning what I can so I have a better time next year.

22:35 <Schism> Yup, so I saw.  o3o  I'm glad that it is actually confirmed now, as opposed to a statement of dubious provenance.

22:35 <Cepheid> Mmhmm.

22:35 <Cepheid> It was listed on the Twitter account for English Monster Hunter.

22:35 * Schism noddles.

22:36 <Cepheid> I'm hoping they have either cross-play or character transfer.

22:36 <Cepheid> Because I plan to get both versions regardless.

22:39 * Schism rolls out to the store for a few moments. She desires ... let's just say food.

22:48 <LibrarianofHope> i have one of those bio shaker thingies , been taking 10 minutes vibration sessions during the day

22:48 <LibrarianofHope> pretty helpfull

23:29 <Lumindia> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/277900564761804800/816308015682027550/jWZXi2w.png

23:29 <Lumindia> so I just learned this

23:30 <Lumindia> I can't...

23:30 <Schism> It's perfectly true.

23:31 * Lumindia flumps

23:32 <Schism> It's COMPLETELY LOGICAL, Lumindia!  You can't deny it!

23:32 <Lumindia> I'm not denying it

23:32 <Lumindia> I just can't

23:33 * Schism decides to play a bit of Control tonight.

23:34 <LibrarianofHope> mary poppins also fits as a witch, goddess, bunch of stuff

23:35 <LibrarianofHope> but that explanation is perfect

23:53 <Cepheid> Hum, do I just run "vkmark" by itself to do the benchmark, Finwe?

23:56 <Cepheid> Default settings on my laptop, a Core i7-10710U using UHD GT2 graphics, I got a score of 5726.

23:56 <Cepheid> To test VKmark on my PC, I'd have to go install Linux, and I don't feel up to that right now.

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23:59 <Zelda> nope

23:59 <Cepheid> Still at it, eh?

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