Log archive of EquestriaDaily for Thursday, 2021-03-18

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01:05 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Say Something Nice About Songbird Serenade [ https://tinyurl.com/yk6gdboq ]

01:11 <Schism> Having a bad day is when you scream into a pillow, fill that pillow with concrete, throw that pillow off a rooftop while screaming, and then go into a Dark Souls run with invincibility hacks and murder everything that lives.

01:11 <Schism> It's not 'stab 8 sex workers'.

01:19 <Schism> Or shoot, even.

01:20 <Cepheid> It's ridiculous.

01:21 <Cepheid> Guy deserves a gutting himself.  Under the argument that the person doing the gutting was just "having a bad day"

01:23 <Cepheid> Ye know.  Sometimes, I wonder.  If we still used cartridge-style gaming to this day, what kind of weird upgrade chips would we be seeing?

01:23 <Cepheid> Because that was one of the advantages of old-style cartridge gaming.  The PCBs had room for extra chips and such.

01:24 <Cepheid> Nowadays, the best we can do is with the Switch and it's dock.

01:24 * Ali shows Cepheid the Switch carts

01:25 <Cepheid> Those are too small.

01:25 <Ali> Even though they're technically SD but still

01:25 * Schism peers at Switch cartridges, which are now nothing but smol SD chips which you can't even lick.

01:25 <Cepheid> I mean, you could theoretically put an extra chip in them probably, but it would amount to little, due to the size, and issues of heat.

01:25 <Cepheid> No, these days, the best you can do is with the docking station.

01:26 <Cepheid> Depending on the capabilities of the USB-C port on it, you could in practice create a docking station that expands the power of the console.

01:26 <Cepheid> Off the top of my head, a good technology to do that with would be one of those AI upscaling techs.

01:27 <Cepheid> Dock the Switch into it, then use the upscaling AI to upscale the image from 1080p or whatever resolution the game is running at, to 4K or higher.

01:27 <Cepheid> A hardware implementation of such an upscaling AI would allow it to retain performance.

01:38 <Cepheid> Otherwise, I cannot see cartridges being used.  It would have to be entirely the dock, or a system upgrade.

01:38 * Schism whistles innocently. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4d/VTech-Socrates-Set-FL.jpg/1920px-VTech-Socrates-Set-FL.jpg

01:38 <Cepheid> And supposedly the latter is coming sometime this year.

01:38 <Schism> (Ages and ages ago.  But yes...)

01:39 <Cepheid> Oof.  The latest update to X4 has problems for the RTX 3000 series cards.

01:39 <Cepheid> Apparently it's a driver-side issue, but the game is crashing with a "Lost Device" error.

01:40 <Schism> Did... did they ever find it?

01:40 <Schism> But seriously, what.

01:40 <Cepheid> Heh.

01:41 <Cepheid> A lost device just means that the video card is in an inconsistent and unusable state for that particular application, from what I understand.  Let me see...

01:41 <Cepheid> There's two forms of it in Vulkan.

01:42 <Schism> Yeah, I know.  Same as when a controller loses connectivity for whatever reason, except just a little more liable to cause the whole engine to bork.

01:42 <Cepheid> Apparently, the most common reason for device loss is driver error.

01:43 <Schism> Colour me surprised, there.

01:43 <Cepheid> An application can induce it, but it's less common.

01:43 <Cepheid> Meanwhile, physical device loss means literally that the hardware crashed.

01:43 <Cepheid> And thus the entire system is likely in an unstable, unreliable state.

01:44 <Schism> I can see a virtual device loss situation caused by a change in resolution or the like.  But driver error does seem like the more common issue.

01:44 <Cepheid> My guess is, it's called "lost device" because the initial cause of the problems way back when was the device physically becoming "lost" to the computer.

01:45 <Cepheid> As in, it's connection to the system was severed in some manner.

01:45 <Schism> And physical device loss reeeeeally sounds like something's very, very, VERY wrong with the bus, the card, or both.

01:45 <Cepheid> Basically.

01:45 <Schism> Like getting a BSOD due to badly-seated RAM.

01:45 <Cepheid> Physical device loss is potentially a serious issue.  Logical device loss is just "Oops, something went wrong in the application or driver, or both."

01:46 * Schism snickers at RLC. "Aw, poor Dave."

01:46 <Cepheid> nVidia's been known to have a lot of issues with regards to device loss.

01:46 <Schism> Application, driver, or even just the OS in general...

01:47 <Cepheid> I've never had an nVidia card that has worked 24/7 without issue.  Always got some form of bluescreen, driver crash, or some other issue relating to it.

01:47 <Cepheid> I'm mildly annoyed that I'm getting that NOW with increasing frequency.

01:47 <Cepheid> Right now, losing a video card to some form of internal damage is not good timing.

01:47 <Schism> This one's been doing me good, aside from my minotaur occasionally displaying a white line every few million frames.

01:48 <Cepheid> I've got beep codes coming out of my system, and blue screens happening, especially when the system is idling.

01:48 <Schism> wh

01:48 <Schism> POST codes when the system's idling?

01:48 <Cepheid> Not when the system's idling, no.

01:49 <Cepheid> The blue screens are happening when it's idling.

01:49 <Schism> Oh.  ... yeah, not good.

01:49 <Cepheid> But the beep codes are randomly happening on boot.  It's "VGA not detected."

01:49 <Schism> Done ye olde 'unseat, dust, reseat' song and dance number?

01:49 <Cepheid> I've done the reseat, but I haven't tried blasting the port with compressed air yet.

01:49 <Cepheid> Still happens.

01:49 <Cepheid> Tried another port.  Same thing.

01:50 <Cepheid> So I'm thinking it's not the mobo.

01:50 <Schism> Might not be a bad idea to just blow out the buses on general principles, but that does sound like video card degradation, yeah.

01:50 <Cepheid> Which is honestly not something I need right now.

01:50 <Schism> Not something anyone needs, but especially this time...

01:51 <Cepheid> First off, I'm broke.  I'm likely not going to be getting anything tax-wise either, due to accepting the CERB last year.  Lastly, finding a video card is a trial in itself.

01:51 <Cepheid> And I am not going to stoop to paying the scalpers.  I'd much rather just reserve a card at a store and wait six months.

01:52 <Cepheid> And my usual choice for part-time employment isn't viable right now thanks to the pandemic.

01:52 <Schism> (#$* the scalpers.  Might as well get a somewhat lower-level model from Canada Computers or something...

01:52 <Schism> Yeah, WIS aren't particularly active right now.

01:53 <Cepheid> Kinda hard to be when your work involves going into stores and touching everything and anything in the store.

01:53 <Schism> I'm not totally sure, but I believe there was a 50-gallon bucket of loose gloves near the front entrance of the store when they were doing their thing.

01:54 * Cepheid takes a break from schoolwork and researches device loss some more. Sounds like a pain to deal with.

01:54 <Cepheid> When device loss occurs, if the system is still stable, and you can recover from it(That is, it's logical device loss), you have to de-allocate *ALL* GPU resources first.

01:54 <Cepheid> Only then can you shut down the logical device and recreate it.

01:55 <Schism> So not something so simple as shunting the resources over to a virtual device in lieu, and then bringing it back to the actual device.

01:55 <Cepheid> So you have to de-allocate all resources, deallocate the device, reallocate it, and then reload ALL the resources.

01:55 <Cepheid> No wonder games just choose to crash instead.

01:55 <Schism> Oh right, because most of that is contained UPON the GPU, and you can't read from it.

01:56 <Cepheid> Yeah, a lot of stuff is maintained CPU-side.

01:56 <Cepheid> That can still be allocated and deallocated as necessary.

01:57 <Cepheid> This creates a lot of trouble, because often the typical behaviour of a 3D application is to load the relevant data of a resource into system RAM, then pass it onto the GPU, and deallocate the system RAM.

01:57 <Cepheid> So, if you want to reload that resource into the GPU, you have to re-open the data file, load it into system RAM, and push it to the GPU again.

01:58 <Schism> You've also got to deallocate the resources associated with the GPU in case the card _has_ lost the data, otherwise you're loading nonsense.

01:58 <Schism> Which might be briefly entertaining.

01:58 <Cepheid> In a lost device case, the objects in the GPU memory are considered "lost" and unusable.

01:59 <Schism> Which does make sense.  If it's a power fluctuation or something which causes the GPU to lose its volatile memory...

01:59 <Cepheid> So when device loss occurs, you have to destroy all the handles, from the bottom up.  If an object had child objects, those child objects have to be deallocated first, then you can deallocate the upper object, and move up, and up, and up.

01:59 <Cepheid> Until you hit the core device object, which you deallocate and then reallocate.

01:59 <Cepheid> I can see no way to handle this easily.

01:59 <Cepheid> Especially mid-game.

02:00 <Schism> It sounds like a better means would be to hold the game inside a shell, and if a device loss is detected, say, "Hey, there's an issue with the video card.  We're restoring from the last clean state we read." and go from there, rather than a hard CtD.

02:01 <Cepheid> It'd be better for the game objects to reference an identifier instead of the actual models, textures and the like themselves.

02:01 <Cepheid> When it comes time to draw those resources, it calls upon some central repository to get the model data, texture data, and so on.

02:01 <Schism> This would also be beneficial, yes.

02:01 <Cepheid> Problem is, that adds a level of indirection, and isn't always a viable case either.

02:03 <Schism> Coming up with explanations for any potential problem is why documentation papers always smell like hard liquor and tears.

02:03 <Cepheid> Like, a core problem I face with my own games doesn't allow for me to just store a compiled model and call upon it when I need it, because I want the ability to scale the model up or down.

02:04 <Cepheid> But the problem is, my modelling system uses simple flat-shaded polygons and variable-width, smooth-shaded lines.

02:04 <Cepheid> The latter of which is what creates the problem.

02:04 <Cepheid> The flat-shaded polygons are fine.

02:04 <Cepheid> But the lines?  Aaaahahaha.

02:04 <Cepheid> An unfortunate reality of 3D hardware today is that lines are hard to render.

02:05 <Schism> You might _think_ that's an easy remedy to process, scaling those down, buuuuuut...

02:05 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Nightly Discussion #2465 [ https://tinyurl.com/yz7wl5je ]

02:05 <Cepheid> You can use the basic line rendering functionality of OpenGL, D3D or Vulkan, but they come with driver-induced limitations.

02:05 <Cepheid> Among them being limited accuracy.

02:05 <Cepheid> Let's see now..

02:08 <Cepheid> The line-width granularity on my system is 0.125.  So lines have to be a multiple of that.  I cannot get around this limitation.

02:08 <Cepheid> Also, it seems the driver reports the wrong information for line width info.

02:09 <Cepheid> It lists the line width range as 1.0 to 1.0, or 0.0 to 0.0 for antialiased lines.

02:10 <Cepheid> To get around that in 2D rendering, you can use a pair of triangles.  But in doing this, they are subject to scaling, so to retain their size you have to do some annoying mathematics.

02:12 <Cepheid> And because you have to do annoying mathematics, this means recompiling the vertex data for all of the lines you want to draw any time the zoom changes.

02:12 <Cepheid> So, you can't use pre-compiled models.

02:12 <Cepheid> An alternative solution is to use a shader, but that has it's own problems.

02:13 <Cepheid> Though, thinking on it..

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02:14 <Cepheid> If, in the shader, I have the start and end points in screen coordinates, I can use vector projection to determine the distance the currently-being-processed fragment is from the line, and use that to determine if I should or shouldn't draw the fragment.

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02:16 <Cepheid> Which would be faster than the alternative approach of drawing a line, then using post-processing to increase the size of the line.  It can be done in a single pass instead.

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02:25 <Cepheid> As for the capping problem I've been dealing with, I'm gonna hold off on that.  Get things working, first.

02:29 <Cepheid> Alternatively, I forego using polygonal lines altogether, and use sprites that are drawn at the resolution of the closest available zoom, and use automatic mipmapping to provide reasonable quality at lower zoom factors.

02:29 <Cepheid> Which seems like it'd be an easier, and better approach.

02:30 <Cepheid> Actually, thinking about it, that wouldn't achieve the effect I want.

02:31 <Cepheid> Whatever, I have an assignment due tomorrow evening, so I better work on it.

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02:46 <DerpyBot> *derp*

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02:56 <Cepheid> Oh no.

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03:17 <Cepheid> I don't get this.  My nose is bone dry and clean, so why am I getting a headache?

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03:29 <Ali> heahaches are casued by more than one thing

03:29 * Ali spel gud

03:29 <Ali> I get headaches from time to time, usually either noise or light based

03:40 <Cepheid> My sinus headaches typically happen every day without proper treatment.  Seems that treatment is no longer sufficient.

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03:42 <Schism> My final statement.  https://twitter.com/theogrin/status/1372392407527010311

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03:47 <Cepheid> And it hasn't made you want to kill anyone either.

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03:48 <Schism> Well, not in a physical sense.  I would happily go into VR and squish their head, but that's a different matter.

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03:51 <Dawn_Chaser> no such device or address the heck you talkin about

03:52 <Dawn_Chaser> I swear to god my computer is melting down

03:52 <Schism> You're a few hours too late for that talk, but what the heck?  BSODs?

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03:55 <Apple_Jack> it just disconnected me lol

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04:22 <Schism> Cepheid: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-74HTjRbuY

04:23 * Cepheid bookmarks for later.

04:26 * Schism then just flops into bed. @_@

04:32 <Cepheid> That nasal rinse is helping my headache a bit.

04:34 <Ali> Two hours later

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04:50 <Apple_Jack> my client is freaking out so hard

04:51 * LadyBlackthorne is just using Mibbit, because she is evil like that.

04:51 <LadyBlackthorne> Kind of surprised this place is still here.

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04:53 <Ali> Seems like it

04:53 <Dawn_Chaser> keeps telling me no such device or address

04:53 <Ali> Wish I knew what was going on, but I know little about the problem

04:53 <Dawn_Chaser> I'm sorry Ali I might have to do stuff later :(

04:54 <Ali> Its fine, I mean I don't understand what the problem is

04:54 <Cepheid> Sounds like it's having trouble with DNS.

04:54 <Ali> Other than the mask keeps changing a bit

04:54 <Cepheid> Or cannot find a route.

04:54 <Dawn_Chaser> frustrating

04:54 <Ali> Very

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05:15 <Cepheid> Oh dear gods the pain got worse.

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05:19 <Cepheid> This chili isn't the spiciest.  *adds sriracha*

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05:41 <Cepheid> On the upside, I finished the translation of the essay.

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05:46 <AppleDash> Long time no see, LadyBlackthorne

05:46 <AppleDash> Missed you

05:51 <LadyBlackthorne> >:3

05:52 <LadyBlackthorne> Yeah, I've been on and off discord.

05:52 <LadyBlackthorne> My moods have been up and down.

05:52 <LadyBlackthorne> But I am still here.

05:55 <AppleDash> Well, I got banned from Discord, so there is that :P

06:00 <LadyBlackthorne> How did you get banned from Discord?

06:01 <LadyBlackthorne> Did you post wrong think?

06:02 <AppleDash> I honestly don't know. Probably. At least 3 of my friends have been inexplicably banned for no reason with no explanation, but what we have in common is they were all Derpibooru staff... So we think someone might've been targetting us.

06:04 * LadyBlackthorne nods.

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06:30 <PinkieShy> Hopefully we dont' lose power here tomorrow..

06:30 <PinkieShy> Supposedly very bad weather is on its way like thunderstorms and possibly tornadoes

06:32 <Ali> Can't you fight a ban like that or something?

06:34 <LadyBlackthorne> Be safe.

06:35 <AppleDash> Ali: Yep, did my best, they just kept sending me back the same template robot response

06:36 <Ali> God I hate how hands off companies are now with anything

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06:45 * DurgHorseSleep makes sleeping dragonhorse noises

06:47 <AppleDash> Good night DurgHorseSleep c: Do come back, I'm glad to see you again.

06:48 <AppleDash> Ali: I agree :( Like, I would be 100% satisfied if they could just say "Here is the rule you broke. This is the message that got reported. Signed, <name who isn't a robot>"

06:48 <AppleDash> But no, they have to send a template response that provides zero explanation and don't even have the dignity to sign it with a name

06:49 <Ali> Of course not, that was lost long ago

06:49 <Ali> Then they'll get backlashed

06:49 <Ali> Then come out with some hypocritical I'm sorry but not sorry thing

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06:52 <ConfusionRift> Hello everypony?

06:54 <DurgHorseSleep> zZzZzZz

06:54 <Cepheid> Morning.

06:57 * ConfusionRift checks on some corruption shenanigans. "Huh, they got the corruptor to work on MH Tri."

06:58 <Cepheid> Hum.  Level 30 thief and... level 30 skull.  Easy enough.

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07:09 <Cepheid> Your final level before I stopped altogether was 82, Rifty. :P

07:10 <ConfusionRift> Niiice. :P

07:10 <ConfusionRift> But seriously, it took nothing to get there.

07:10 <ConfusionRift> Then again, I mostly played the first two Disgaea games.

07:11 <Cepheid> Yeh.

07:11 <Cepheid> Disgaea 3 and onwards make it somewhat easy to grind.

07:11 <ConfusionRift> Prinny Baal is a cheater.

07:11 * Schism awakens, and tries some of the fig rolls she picked up last night. She noms down, and then nods. "Sensible." She finishes the lot, takes insulin, and resolves never to buy them again.

07:12 * ConfusionRift chuckles.

07:12 <Schism> (Well, I've eaten three.  That's enough Fig Newtons for a certain time-frame.)

07:13 <Cepheid> In any case, you're actually second-deadliest in terms of damage output.

07:13 <Schism> As the medic, this is only normal.

07:14 * Schism also delves into the Item World of a Fig Newton.

07:14 <ConfusionRift> Wow, these look good! Let's try them out. (serves three, and takes a bite out of one) ...huh... (throws all of them away, grabs a stick of dynamite and walks to the bakery)

07:14 <Cepheid> Deadliest is Cepheid, even though she's 30 levels short of Rifty.  She has all the elemental spells up to Giga tier.

07:14 <ConfusionRift> So she has the most affinity.

07:14 <Cepheid> She can target any weakness, yeah.

07:15 <Schism> ConfusionRift, they're certainly tasty enough.  Surprisingly.  It's been about 10 years since I've even seen a fig roll, so they're strangely better than I recall.

07:15 <Schism> "Sure, I'll spend $3 to determine whether my childhood was lying to me." *nyom* "My childhood was, in fact, lying to me."

07:18 <ConfusionRift> Was reminded when they brought back the Pepsi clear. Both me and my cousin bought one each, took the first sip, and stopped right there. "Maybe I remember things differently... but this is NOT the same at all."

07:19 <Cepheid> Now to get a Skull up to level 30.  Let's see what happens first.  Getting a skull to level 30, or my migraine knocks me out.

07:24 * Schism rolls over to Cepheid, too, and offers chocolate-covered graham crackers.

07:24 <Cepheid> You know, I was thinking about how I'd like some of those right now.

07:24 * Schism also provides ConfusionRift with lemon-iced shortbreads.

07:28 * ConfusionRift thankies Schism and noms some of them shortbreads. :P

07:29 * Cepheid makes Cepheid into a Ninja, since they have affinity for fist weapons. This does, however, mean that she's a he, now.

07:29 <Cepheid> So now she can punch, burn, freeze, blow away, or use eldritch energies to kill her enemies.

07:30 <Schism> What, no female ninja sprite in that?  Oh well, it's a full body suit anyway.

07:31 <Cepheid> Kunoichi exists, but no fist weapon support.

07:31 <Schism> Aha.

07:31 <Cepheid> That said, I might be able to get away with learning the skills and then reincarnating as a female class again.

07:33 <Cepheid> Assuming I can get a hit in.  At level 5 boost, I can barely hit the enemies.

07:33 <Cepheid> There we go.

07:34 <Schism> Hitting the enemies?  What kind of ridiculous powerleveling mechanism is that?

07:34 <Cepheid> Hmm?

07:34 <Cepheid> Well, it's just they have high speed and a level 1 character has low hit.

07:34 <Cepheid> So, attacks won't necessarily get through until a few levels are gained.

07:35 <Schism> Yes, but you should hit your prinnies instead.

07:35 <Cepheid> That would not be a good idea.

07:35 <Schism> She's a level 1 ninja, what's the chance they'd go boom?

07:35 <Cepheid> My own prinnies, the only one I have is level 82.

07:36 <Schism> I suppose that's hard to hit.  But really...

07:37 <Cepheid> In any case, got that first kill in, so that's good.

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07:37 <Cepheid> I can hit them now, and all I need to do is make sure I boost the attack skills a bit so they can kill even stronger enemies, and just keep going up and up, until I got all the skills I want.  Then I reincarnate.

07:46 <Cepheid> Need... 800 Mana to reincarnate Cepheid.

07:50 <Cepheid> It feels weird to see a mage hit a prinny for 200+ damage.

07:50 <Cepheid> With her fist.

07:50 <Schism> Hello, Disgaea.

07:50 <Schism> I take it you're new to Atlus, then.  Welcome to the fun times, Cepheid.

07:51 <Cepheid> :P

07:51 <Cepheid> This is NIS, not Atlus.

07:51 <Schism> Eh, NIS is the producer, Atlus the publisher.  The two are hand in glove.

07:52 <Cepheid> NIS is both the developer *AND* the publisher.

07:52 <Schism> Aha.  o3o

07:53 <Schism> Can I at least say that, based on your statements, it's still an Atlus game, independence aside?

07:54 <Cepheid> Fine, fine. :P

07:55 * Schism pats the Cephy, and provides a couple of maple leaf cookies.

07:56 <Schism> (Though these fig newtons are ... surprisingly palatable.)

07:57 <Cepheid> Okay, I was gonna say, is that fist weapon increasing her counter attack?  Turns out it is.

07:57 <Cepheid> By 2 points.

08:00 * ConfusionRift goes back to Gotcha Force, and sighs. "Capcom... why did you remove the lyrics from the intro song? And why can't I legitimately get the Galactic Emperor?!"

08:01 <Schism> The lyrics are unlocked at random by watching the intro 50,000 times, and the Galactic Emperor has a 1% chance of dropping from the hardest dungeon in the game.

08:02 * ConfusionRift baps Schism with newspaper. :P

08:02 * Schism squeaks. "What! That's probably true. Maybe."

08:03 <Cepheid> In any case, I'm gonna stop now and lay down for a bit.

08:04 <Cepheid> My vision's going all wonky.  Blurring up considerably.

08:04 * Schism hides from the rolled-up newspaper. Hides behind Ali.

08:04 <Schism> Cepheid: Yeah, good time to take a break.  @_@

08:04 <Cepheid> That's from the headache.

08:04 * Ali headtilts

08:04 * Schism pushes the Ali forward. "Here, YOU deal with the rolled-up paper."

08:05 * Ali thinks Schism should bug up and not be scared of said thing :P

08:05 * ConfusionRift puts it away. "Wat'chu talkin' about?"

08:05 * Schism is a bug! Rolled-up newspapers, shoes, and cans of aerosol spray are her natural enemies.

08:07 <ConfusionRift> But yeah, the lyrics for the intro song got removed in the non-JP versions, and they locked being able to unlock the final boss as a playable borg. It's still in the game, but can't be obtained normally.

08:08 * Schism eyebrows. "Those are some very strange alterations. The former more than the latter. I take it that absolutely no reason was provided?"

08:09 <ConfusionRift> Have no seen any. If it's because of "cultural differences", then they have to remove many of the borgs in the game.

08:10 <Schism> Who even knows...

08:10 * Schism peers at OOTS. "Welp."

08:11 <Schism> Serini might be just ever so slightly put out that the protagonists destroyed Gerard's Gate on purpose.

08:11 <Cepheid> The lyrics may be due to copyright issues.

08:11 <Cepheid> As for removal of that one unit, I can think of only two reasons.

08:11 <ConfusionRift> I know of one.

08:12 <Cepheid> 1)  It's way OP.  2)  There's bugs with it being accessible to the player that they don't want to deal with.

08:12 <ConfusionRift> If we're gonna talk about bugs, there's a really crazy one that I have got NO CLUE how anyone could figure it out.

08:13 <Schism> #1 is almost certain, but if we're talking about a unit only available after beating the game...

08:14 <Schism> Like recruiting Prinny Baal, by the time you can do it, you don't really need to.

08:15 <ConfusionRift> https://gotchaforce.fandom.com/wiki/Galactic_Emperor

08:16 <Schism> Quite the offensive unit, that.

08:16 <ConfusionRift> But the Sirius is obtainable, and stat-wise, it kinda makes no sense.

08:16 <ConfusionRift> https://gotchaforce.fandom.com/wiki/Sirius

08:17 <ConfusionRift> I think it's more about just how massive the emperor is. It's supposed to be a final boss, and by gameplay, it acts the same.

08:18 <ConfusionRift> So maybe, for the sake of game safety, they locked it.

08:18 <Schism> 173... oh, right, Konami is 573.  

08:18 <Schism> I _GUESS_ maybe that's reasonable.

08:19 <ConfusionRift> As for lyrics... copyright? But it's their own song!

08:22 * ConfusionRift chuckles. "I didn't understood the lyrics, so maybe it's just extremely offensive and I never knew." :P

08:22 * Cepheid shrugs. Anyway she is gonna lay on the floor for a bit.

08:23 * Schism thinks she's going to take another hour's nap. z.z

08:24 <Schism> If my freaking subconscious LETS me.  Last night I dreamt of a group of supervillains taking over a train with a chemical weapon which would only affect the terribly rich.

08:25 <Schism> Delightfdul dream.  Not particularly helpful in terms of staying asleep.

08:25 <Schism> Delightful*

08:29 <Cepheid> Painkillers, send help!

08:34 <Cepheid> On one hand, sneezing fits are annoying..

08:35 <Cepheid> On the other hand, my nose feels better for it.

08:39 * ConfusionRift tries out that supposed glitch... and it worked.

08:40 <ConfusionRift> I... what?! Seriously, someone figured this out somehow. But how?! This is akin to memory manipulation.

08:41 <ConfusionRift> Let's say, without using cheat codes, I will no longer complain about not having the emperor in the roster. :P

08:42 <ConfusionRift> But now I got two usable borgs, since I basically lost one.

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08:51 <Cepheid> Confusion, people have figured out how, through manipulating items and 'mons, to reprogram a GB in Pokemon.

08:54 <Sokolas_> does anyone here remember Veryfluffeh?

08:54 <Sokolas_> she was active a few years ago

08:55 <ConfusionRift> Honestly don't remember. We used to have a bunch of active users back then.

08:56 <Dapper_Dappled> !seen Veryfluffeh

08:56 <DerpyBot> Dapper_Dappled: The last time I saw Veryfluffeh was 2014-02-08 17:48:22 UTC

08:56 <Dapper_Dappled> So yeah, that was a very long time since they logged in under that nick.

08:58 <Sokolas_> ouch

09:02 * Dapper_Dappled flops away again to play Pokemon and pet cats.

09:05 <Cepheid> Oh gods my stomach aaaahhhhh

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09:31 <Cepheid> Seriously wondering what kinds of nightmares Capcom plans to inflict upon us in Rise, after the Fatalis and Alatreon fights of World.

09:31 <Jackie> Who's Sokolas

09:33 * Golden blinks wondering what Cepheid is wondering. "We're in danget...."

09:40 <ConfusionRift> The first battle with Sho... guh.

09:43 * ConfusionRift had to cheese it.

09:44 <ConfusionRift> But yeah, I smell Rise is gonna have some other kind of painful or astronomical encounter.

09:46 <Cepheid> Thus far, worst I've seen is the apex monsters during the rampages.

09:47 <Cepheid> They gain a lot of attacks on top of their base forms.

09:56 <ConfusionRift> Capcom: (drinks a shot) "You know what would be interesting?" (drinks another) "Apex elder dragons. That would surely ruffle those elite players." (thuds)

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10:03 <Jackie> Is it possible to block DerpyBot's notices

10:03 <Jackie> They're really spammy

10:03 <ConfusionRift> ...they only show up on occasions, not all the time. But you can always mute it.

10:08 <Cepheid> Another day, another Fatalis dead.

10:09 <Cepheid> I almost got enough Fatalis parts to craft the entirety of his armor.

10:13 <ConfusionRift> [The Ultimate Cannon, light of destruction!] Well, I feel I might get stuck here for a while.

10:15 <ConfusionRift> Oh wait, wrong mission... but still. I don't like it.

10:24 <Cepheid> All I need is one danged eye.

10:24 <Cepheid> ... Well, that, and a Furious Rajang Heart and a Stygian Zinogre Skymerald.

10:26 * Cepheid melds the heart. "One less nightmare."

10:27 * ConfusionRift doesn't like his luck. "Only have 7 borgs, and I'm getting to the half point."

10:28 * Cepheid hands ConfusionRift some burgers.

10:29 <ConfusionRift> Wrong borgs, but okay. :P

10:29 * ConfusionRift noms them.

10:50 <Finwe> Lt Cdr ConfusionRift, Messrs Cepheid, Golden and Lumindia; Mlles Jackie and Filly_Nightmares.

10:50 * Finwe doffs his hat.

10:50 <Jackie> Hello

10:51 <ConfusionRift> RAdm. Finwe. (salutes)

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10:54 <Golden> Yo

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11:00 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Morning Discussion #2237 [ https://tinyurl.com/yjuph6xj ]

11:06 * Jackie nuzzles Golden

11:07 <Cepheid> https://i.imgur.com/1UeZWtR.png Schism, the name of that player waiting to join the quest on the right-hand side.

11:07 * Golden nuzzles back

11:09 * Jackie wraps a hoof around Golden

11:10 <Golden> ^~^

11:11 * Jackie cuddles

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11:28 <Jackie> Hi darkdoomer

11:28 <darkdoomer> hello jackie

11:29 <darkdoomer> sorry for squatting your chat just reactivated that old irc account and whoa.

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11:45 <RazorSharpFang> Hey heys

11:45 <Golden> Hey

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12:15 <Schism> Cepheid: ...what.  XD

12:16 <Schism> WELL I guess I have a DOPPELGANGER now, okay then.

12:23 <ConfusionRift> Oh yeah. Character names are not unique or protected as far as I know.

12:24 <Schism> Well, yeah.  Plus, I mean, mine isn't Schismatism, it's Ambergris Londe.

12:24 * ConfusionRift completely forgot.

12:24 <ConfusionRift> Dood... someone is playing as you, and you're playing as someone. 0_0

12:26 <ConfusionRift> It will kill me if that user had AmbergrisLonde as their Steam username. :P

12:27 <Schism> Pff. XD  Well, tis of no concern.

12:35 * ConfusionRift should stop playing. And give it a break.

12:35 <ConfusionRift> Got that nostalgia rush back.

12:43 <Schism> Interesting.  In the motorways of Germany, a group of 15 bikes have the right of way.  So some remarkably slow bicyclists took to the streets the other day in order to block an AfD motorcade.  Poor, poor neo-Nazis.

12:43 <RazorSharpFang> Isn't the AfD Merkel's old party?

12:44 <Schism> Not to the best of my knowledge.  She's with the Christian Democratic Union.

12:44 <RazorSharpFang> I mean, I thought the AfD was a spinoff of the precursor ro the CDU

12:47 <Schism> I'd have to look further into the history, but it would hardly be the first time a 'populist' party split off as a faction from another, more reasonable and decent group.

13:04 * ConfusionRift flops to sleep.

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13:24 * Schism passes Tirek a few chunks of gold-star produce and amethyst forage.

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13:42 <Schism> A dangerous spider is this.  https://twitter.com/xssfox/status/1372438776513847301

13:42 <RazorSharpFang> A well-connected spider.

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14:00 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Comic: Steps to Fly / Journey Home 13 / Movie Slate: Pineberries and Crystal Roses / Singing Storm 13 [ https://tinyurl.com/yds96d2d ]

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14:13 <Tirek> Thanks, Schism.

14:13 <Tirek> I'm screwing around with mods today, btw, I got the GIGA FARM

14:14 <Schism> Nice.  :3  I should mess about with them as well.

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15:44 <Finwe> Lt Pony|71705, Cpl uni.

15:44 <Finwe> o7

15:44 * Pony|71705 wave.

15:53 * LadyBlackthorne nods to Pony

15:57 <Finwe> Mlles Angeline and LadyBlackthorne.

15:57 * Finwe doffs his hat.

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16:03 * LadyBlackthorne blows Finwe a kiss.

16:09 * uni squeaks

16:09 <uni> salutations, RAdm. Finwe

16:09 * uni hats on Finwe

16:10 <uni> my service ends in two weeks~

16:10 <Schism> Aaa!  You get to go home...!

16:10 * Schism doffs her chili bowl.

16:11 <uni> oh I already do~ Perks of being C4

16:11 <LibrarianofHope> im extremely burntout, see ya tommorow, need to remove focus

16:12 * Schism headtilts. Isn't sure what a C4 rank is, save that it's clearly a commissioned officer status.

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16:12 <uni> nah it's not a rank

16:12 <uni> it's a uh how to say, vocation

16:12 <Schism> Pay grade, sorry.

16:12 <uni> Command, Control, Something, Something

16:12 <Schism> It's still a rank, though.

16:12 <uni> oh yeah Command Control Communications Computers

16:13 <Schism> Oh, you're IT staff.  Well, then, my proverbial hat's off to you.  

16:13 <uni> haha pretty much

16:13 <uni> so like shift work monitoring systems

16:13 <Schism> Genuinely, you get to deal with MILITARY HARDWARE.

16:14 <uni> pfft it's a joke

16:14 <uni> the operating system is older than some of the new people

16:14 <uni> as old as me

16:15 <uni> the people in charge of maintaining it have blocked our number

16:15 <Schism> what.

16:15 <Schism> I sincerely hope that you have at least a pay grade similar to commissioned officers.

16:15 <uni> oh my how I wish I had that too

16:15 <Schism> [Insert derisive laughter here.]

16:16 * uni sadlaughs

16:16 <Schism> What the HELL.  Without you, the whole system'd break down.

16:16 <uni> nah I'm not that important

16:16 <uni> I'm just doing cybersec

16:16 <Schism> Excuse me?

16:16 * Schism looks at uni with a questioning eye.

16:17 <uni> hey cybersecurity is a joke

16:17 <uni> I could literally program a computer to do the job I'm doing

16:17 <uni> but do I have clearance? Nope~

16:18 <Schism> I work website support for a shoe company, and yet I feel we have so much in common now...

16:18 <RazorSharpFang> What's the software written in, Fortran?

16:18 <RazorSharpFang> Cobol perhaps?

16:18 <Schism> I'm quite convinced that half the Army's software is written in COBOL, yes.

16:18 <Schism> Or badly-funged C.

16:19 <uni> hey I'm not that old

16:20 <Schism> Oh right.  It'd be Visual Basic, then.

16:20 <uni> haha

16:20 <Schism> That's not a happy laugh.

16:20 <uni> hahaha

16:20 <uni> the laugher is fake but the tears are real

16:21 <uni> I kinda forgot how that goes

16:21 <Schism> Close enough.

16:21 <uni> ooh what's the proper version?

16:21 <Schism> I don't honestly remember.  Hard to see through all those tears.

16:22 <uni> hehe

16:23 <Schism> The company for which I work will occasionally provide us with images of their screens from the backend software.  Said screens are green-on-black, mode 80.  So, in case you were wondering if the private sector were any better about their backends...

16:23 <uni> oh my~

16:23 <uni> that would be so cool though

16:24 <uni> both like the whole green and black aesthetic and the people you're serving actually talking to you

16:24 <Schism> I've dealt with terminal databases before.  I'm going to say not.

16:24 <Schism> Oh!  No, no.  They don't talk to us.

16:24 <uni> ah of course

16:24 <uni> they leave you screenshots, like a cat leaving half-dead mice at the foot of your bed

16:24 <Schism> They provide us with operational requirements served through systems from 1985.

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16:25 <uni> oh my

16:25 <uni> my CSM was born in 1985

16:26 <Schism> And when we tell the higher-ups about issues with their website suite, we do so through at least three arbitrary managers and a pipe measured in baud.

16:26 <uni> hehe

16:27 <uni> ah the joys of working in IT

16:27 <Schism> Worse yet, I'm customer-facing IT...

16:27 <uni> yikes

16:28 <Schism> Well, in a real sense, I guess we both are.  Your customers are just ... exactly the same as mine.

16:29 * Schism offers the uni a hug. :<

16:29 <uni> hey but your customers don't have cool code names written in all caps

16:29 * uni hugs Schism back, both of us need it

16:29 <Schism> I had one customer whose ApplePay ID was no fewer than 500 characters.

16:29 <uni> security~

16:29 <uni> gotta increase that entropy y'know

16:29 <Schism> Authenticating them was an interesting trial.

16:30 <Schism> "Yes, can I have the name on the billing address?"

16:30 <uni> it was like not his name right?

16:30 <uni> cos I'll feel bad for laughing at some poor fellow with a 500 character name

16:30 <Schism> It was a jumbled pile of garbage containing multiple album and song names and various emoji.

16:31 <uni> oh my, emoji too

16:31 <Schism> Oh yes.  Emoji are commonplace with Applepay accounts.

16:31 <uni> gotta test that unicode support while one is at it

16:31 <Schism> Yet one MORE reason why I absolutely despise PayPal and Applepay.

16:32 <uni> I wonder if the id shows up for OIDC

16:32 <uni> where it can break someone's database

16:32 <Schism> In this case, the actual card's name is obscured... but I'm sure we'll see Bobby Tables not long from here.

16:33 <Schism> I swear, first bank that lets someone actually put an emoji on their card, I'll heave off and start blowing up skyscrapers.

16:35 <uni> call me, I'll join you

16:36 <Schism> It would be nice to have a friend along for the ride, thank you.

16:39 <uni> hehe

16:39 <uni> hmm it's past 12 and I haven't done anything with my life

16:39 <Schism> I'm kind of salty at the fact that we can't take a look at the actual backend systems, though I understand why -- we're merely CSRs, albeit the CSRs who deal with the [] to which ordinary folks shouldn't be subjected.  So we get all the anger.  

16:40 <Schism> Hmm.  Well, are you looking for something to do?  I've heard that Worms is a fun little game.

16:40 <Schism> Series, franchise, whatnot.

16:42 <uni> nah I'm just bemoaning my lack of drive to do something worthwhile with my time

16:42 <uni> got a whole bunch of things to do but no motivation to do them

16:42 <Schism> Hi, I'm a girl who, by the end of her work week, is so totally wiped that she can't even bother to level up her Bard class.

16:42 <uni> what's a CSR?

16:42 <Schism> Customer Service Representative.

16:42 <uni> ah~

16:43 <uni> also Bard class?

16:43 <uni> what game is that?

16:43 <Schism> Final Fantasy 14.

16:43 <uni> ah I see

16:43 <uni> the only game I've been playing recently is Shogun 2

16:44 <Schism> Has a bunch of different jobs/classes which you can level individually on a single character, independently of one another.  So you can start as a healer and then go to a DPS, just by switching your weapon.

16:44 <Schism> I've been playing... a weird mixture of games.  Control one day, FFXIV the next, Breath of the Wild after.

16:45 <uni> huh skipping genres too

16:46 <Schism> Sometimes I like to tank, sometimes I like to sword, sometimes I like to just shoot evil entities.  I'm kind of weird that way.  Who knows, maybe I might emulate a FIFA game later on.

16:47 <Schism> I certainly know that one of the first games I bought for the Switch was Puzzle Bobble, and so.  Eclectic, that's the word.

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16:49 <uni> yeah that's definitely a word for it

16:49 * uni sighs, time to go write a course

16:49 * Finwe noms on uni.

16:49 * uni squeaks!

16:49 <Finwe> You're trespassing in Ali's territory. o3o

16:49 <Schism> I'd ask if you need a beta, but my time is limited and much of what you'll be doing isn't viable for the general public.

16:50 * uni aaaaahs, might get DCMA'd!

16:50 <uni> nah Schism, this isn't for the army

16:50 <uni> I'm trying to start this thing where I write courses and sell kits with them

16:51 * Schism headtilts. "What sort of courses?"

16:51 <uni> stuff on basic microcontroller things

16:51 <uni> so I'm going to write things on differential outputs, PID, stuff like that

16:51 <uni> and then one kit teaches one concept

16:52 <uni> and then there's like a techtree of kits leading to each other

16:52 <Schism> Ah, out of scope for me.  I might be able to do basic evaluations of the writing, but alas, I still completely space on resistor colours.

16:52 <uni> and at the end there is a cool project

16:52 <uni> nah don't worry it's fine

16:53 <uni> I still need to go write the thing first

16:53 <uni> which is such a pain

16:53 <Schism> Documentation is oftentimes the hardest part of a project.

16:54 <Schism> Though writing the software comes close.

16:55 <uni> yeah

16:55 <uni> I just stop at API docs and the odd comment

16:55 <Schism> You can't see my face, which is fortunate, because if you could, you'd already be dead.

16:56 <uni> eek

16:56 * uni hides behind Finwe

16:57 <Schism> Please get someone to write something better than that.  Sheesh!

16:57 <uni> is this a bad time to mention that there was one time I made what could have been a simple script this weird microservices thing synchronising via RPC?

16:57 <uni> hey at least it's for personal projects

16:57 <uni> well mostly

16:57 <uni> sometimes

16:58 <Schism> Okay, I'm just going to leave your ultimate fate to St. Peter.

16:59 <Schism> Cepheid, you should return so that you can be appropriately horrified by this conversation.

17:00 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Makenshi: G5 Music: Sound Bandit x Chuckles - HYPE MUSIC [Hip Hop] [ https://tinyurl.com/yhld7tp4 ]

17:01 <Schism> All jokes aside, uni, it's been an absolute delight to see you again.

17:02 <uni> mmh yeah, same here

17:02 * Schism puts uni on Filly_Nightmares.

17:02 <uni> I haven't been here nearly as much as I should have

17:02 * uni eeps

17:03 * Finwe patpats uni.

17:03 * Schism giggles. "You missed out on a bit. Folks getting in touch with themselves, et al."

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17:04 <uni> if you want, I can tell the story about how the ops centre is also a chess club

17:04 <Schism> Just chess?

17:04 <uni> mhmm

17:04 <uni> well international and chinese

17:04 * Finwe chesses uni.

17:05 <Schism> I'm sorry, but chess is... it's a fun game, but if I had an ops center, it should also have go, mahjong, and poker.

17:05 <Finwe> And kejimajiangmi.

17:05 <uni> haha the last two are known as gambling

17:05 <uni> people get charged

17:06 <Schism> Stuff and nonsense.  It's not gambling if you're just keeping score with random chips.

17:06 <uni> some two crabs tried to push go when he was around, but magnetic go sets don't exist

17:06 <Finwe> And wossnames.

17:06 <uni> hey I don't make the rules here

17:06 <Finwe> Never underestimate the value of wossnames in scorekeeping.

17:06 <uni> what's a wossname?

17:08 <Finwe> Something of which you know what it is but don't remember what it is called.

17:09 <uni> ah I see~

17:09 <Finwe> A contraction of "what's the name".

17:09 <Schism> Rather akin to a thingummy.

17:10 <uni> ah thingummy I'm more familiar with

17:10 <Finwe> Or "what's its name".

17:11 <uni> I don't that lends itself while to being typed or read

17:11 <uni> it like uh, leads you to expect more

17:11 <uni> cos it is three words

17:11 <uni> I have no idea what I'm talking about

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17:14 *** ChanServ sets mode: +qo Ali Ali

17:14 <Finwe> Miss Ali.

17:14 * Finwe doffs his hat.

17:14 * Schism offers a hug to both Ali and uni.

17:14 * Ali doffs over Schism and Finwe

17:15 <Schism> I fear I'm going to have to take a moment for a nap.  Just an hour or so...

17:15 <Finwe> 'Twas about time, we caught uni trespassing in your territory a bit earlier.

17:15 <Finwe> 18:49:16  * uni squeaks!

17:15 <uni> oh no, caught red-handed

17:16 <Finwe> And with pants down.

17:16 * Ali mehs

17:17 <uni> that's...anticlimatic

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17:17 <Finwe> Aren't we supposed to be pro-climate nowadays?

17:18 <uni> yeah exactly! Ali, step up your game for the climate!

17:19 * Ali rolls eyes now

17:19 <uni> hehe~

17:20 <Finwe> o3o

17:30 <LadyBlackthorne> Climate.

17:31 <LadyBlackthorne> Doublespeak if there ever wise such a thing.

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17:46 <Finwe> Doubleplusspeak.

17:48 * uni censors Finwe

17:52 <cano> Hi Finwe

17:52 <cano> It's been a while, you probably don't even remember me ^^'

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18:00 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Fanfiction Updates - March 18th [ https://tinyurl.com/yz5qmc4t ]

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18:41 * Finwe hats on cano.

18:41 <cano> hat

18:47 <Finwe> !seen Hat

18:47 <DerpyBot> Finwe: The last time I saw Hat was 2020-01-12 12:54:44 UTC

18:47 <Finwe> !seen Kizi

18:47 <DerpyBot> Finwe: The last time I saw Kizi was 2014-01-30 19:54:30 UTC

18:48 <Finwe> Hmm, seven years.

18:50 <Finwe> !seen ZeroParadox

18:50 <DerpyBot> Finwe: The last time I saw ZeroParadox was 2018-08-10 01:46:49 UTC

18:50 <uni> woah I wasn't even online then

18:50 <Finwe> !seen QuothTheRaven

18:50 <DerpyBot> Finwe: The last time I saw QuothTheRaven was 2012-10-30 17:45:23 UTC

18:50 <uni> just how old are you exactly?

18:55 * Dapper_Dappled horses about.

18:58 <Finwe> I've been here since 2011, IIRC.

18:59 * Ali flops over the Dapper_Dappled

19:00 <Finwe> !seen MalevolentSpoon

19:00 <DerpyBot> Finwe: The last time I saw MalevolentSpoon was 2017-02-10 02:11:44 UTC

19:00 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Drawfriend Stuff (Pony Art Gallery) #3638 [ https://tinyurl.com/yz6ukugs ]

19:01 * Dapper_Dappled hugs the Ali. He's decided that in addition to doing a Genlocke, he's going to advance far enough in the Mystery Dungeon games to collect all his fainted pokemon before switching generations.

19:01 <Finwe> !seen Princess|Luna

19:01 <DerpyBot> Finwe: The last time I saw Princess|Luna was 2016-10-17 09:49:42 UTC

19:01 * Ali wants to play Crystal, but can't find the game

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19:01 <Finwe> Mr PinkieShy.

19:01 * Finwe doffs his hat.

19:01 * Dapper_Dappled offers Rom?

19:02 <Finwe> !seen CloudChaser

19:02 <DerpyBot> Finwe: The last time I saw CloudChaser was 2015-12-12 19:59:21 UTC

19:02 <Finwe> Him I've actually met.

19:02 <Finwe> !seen Tuuc-

19:02 <DerpyBot> Finwe: Sorry, I haven't seen Tuuc- lately.

19:02 <Finwe> !seen Tuuc

19:02 <DerpyBot> Finwe: The last time I saw Tuuc was 2017-06-20 14:30:18 UTC

19:03 * Ali boops Finwe as Derps is probably gonna get annoyed of that sooner or later

19:03 <Finwe> Probably.

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19:03 <Finwe> Mr Seoson.

19:03 * Finwe noms on StarlightGlimmer.

19:03 *** Seoson is now known as Starlight_Glimmer

19:04 <Finwe> !twilight time

19:04 <DerpyBot> It's not Twilight time right now, silly!

19:04 <Finwe> !starlight time

19:04 <Starlight_Glimmer> Hah! You missed a character!

19:04 * Finwe bounces around in front of Starlight_Glimmer.

19:04 <Finwe> Starlight time! Starlight time!

19:06 <Dapper_Dappled> Ali, do you want an Emulator/Rom for Crystal?

19:07 <Ali> I guess, but its gonna suck not having access to trade evos

19:07 <Ali> About the only reason playing the actual crystal would suck

19:07 <Starlight_Glimmer> You wanna get Ali hooked on Crystal? 6_9

19:07 <Dapper_Dappled> I can fix that?

19:07 * Dapper_Dappled can give you a rom that fixes impossible evolutions.

19:07 <Ali> I honestly wish they would remove trade evolutions from the game now

19:08 * Ali nods and licks Dapper_Dappled

19:08 <Starlight_Glimmer> Some emulators do link cable emulation iirc.

19:09 <Dapper_Dappled> While true, I can just do roms that have alternatives to trade.

19:09 <Dapper_Dappled> Most are now level based, but Slowking is Waterstone.

19:10 <Ali> The only thing is you can't move them to gen 8

19:10 <Ali> Unless you have the 3ds roms

19:10 <Dapper_Dappled> I'm working on 3ds roms, but the program I use to fix trade evos doesn't go past B2W2.

19:11 <Ali> Dapper_Dappled, no I mean the real 3ds rom

19:11 <Ali> You can get Crystal on 3ds for $9.99

19:12 <Dapper_Dappled> You still need to pay for Bank to move pokemon from Crystal to a 3DS to Home to SwSh.

19:14 <Ali> Ewww

19:14 <Ali> Uhhh

19:14 <Ali> Wait

19:14 <Ali> Why would you need bank if Crystal is on the 3ds?

19:15 <Dapper_Dappled> If you're going to move it something like Omega Ruby or Ultra Sun, etc.

19:15 <Dapper_Dappled> Because that's how the transfer works.

19:16 * Dapper_Dappled 's just giving you the option on PC. Though you can download MyBoy if you want to play it on Android, I'm not sure if that's on Apple or what the equivalent over there is.

19:17 * Ali 's apple is older than sin, so not compatable

19:17 <Dapper_Dappled> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Ge7WoVpu9fhoemUb4KZZAb5S7qym4T0B/view?usp=sharing

19:17 <Dapper_Dappled> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Ge7WoVpu9fhoemUb4KZZAb5S7qym4T0B/view?usp=sharing

19:18 <Dapper_Dappled> https://drive.google.com/file/d/114WCubCtXOekS3HYGVO-bD9KYo4nIU4D/view?usp=sharing

19:18 <Dapper_Dappled> There we go.

19:18 <Dapper_Dappled> Links 1 and 2 are the same. Crystal without Trade evolutions. The 3rd link is an emulator.

19:19 <Dapper_Dappled> It's my personal google drive, you aren't going to get viruses from it.

19:20 <Ali> Had to request cause access was denied

19:21 <Dapper_Dappled> Try the link again.

19:21 * Dapper_Dappled adjusted the setting.

19:22 <Dapper_Dappled> Did it work?

19:24 <Ali> That worked

19:26 <Ali> So which GBC core should I use?

19:26 <Ali> I'm using Retroarch since it has all the emulators right there.

19:26 <Dapper_Dappled> Onyx and Porygon evolve at 30, Poliwhirl, Kadabra, Machoke, Graveler, Haunter at 37, Seadra at 40 and Splowpoke to Slowking requires Water Stone.

19:27 * Dapper_Dappled has never used Retroarch.

19:29 <Dapper_Dappled> That looks a lot better than having to use a bunch of different programs.

19:29 * Dapper_Dappled downloads.

19:30 * Dapper_Dappled realises that it just consolidates existing programs, but still. I like consolidation and a nice UI. reminds me of the PS3 menu from the screenshots.

19:45 * Ali flops over Dapper_Dappled, getting murdered by the wild mons and stupid silver able to hit thru 4 smokescreens

19:46 <Dapper_Dappled> That seems a bit extreme.

19:46 * Dapper_Dappled promises that the only thing he changed was the evolutions.

19:47 <Ali> Its just the early game being jerky is all

19:47 <Ali> Since they all get stab attacks

20:08 * Lumindia appears

20:08 * Lumindia offers Ali a bar of chocolate

20:09 * Ali takes to nom

20:09 <Lumindia> chocolate is good

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21:10 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Makenshi: Show Song Remix: Daniel Ingram - A Changeling Can Change (Snow Swirl Remix) [Electro] [ https://tinyurl.com/yguwdxeb ]

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21:57 * Finwe runs a Welch Two-Sample t-test on the data vectors Ali_nommed and Ali_squeak.

22:00 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Community Soapbox - Princess Fluttershy, G5 Lore, Ending of EG, and More!  [ https://tinyurl.com/yeyd52d4 ]

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22:51 * Filly_Nightmares hongers at Finwe

22:51 <Finwe> o3o

22:51 * Finwe ruffles Filly_Nightmares.

22:52 * Filly_Nightmares yawnskree!

22:56 * Filly_Nightmares uses Finwe as nest!

23:00 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: My Little Pony Speedpaint Compilation #181 [ https://tinyurl.com/ygneroue ]

23:02 * Filly_Nightmares grazes on Finwe mane!

23:05 * Filly_Nightmares melt

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23:30 * Cepheid plays some X4 for 30 minutes. "There are a lot of ships trapped in minefields.."

23:36 * Schism eyebrows. "The police chief making excuses for the serial killer was, according to the Sheriff's office, just having a bad day."

23:40 <Cepheid> ... Heh.

23:40 <Cepheid> It's gonna go to worse at this rate.

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23:42 <Schism> Daniel Powter wrote a song about what you do when you have a bad day.  And now it's stuck in my head.

23:43 <Cepheid> There are a surprising amount of xenon around this space.  That's... concerning.

23:46 * Finwe sticks some Jonathan Coulton's songs into Schism's head.

23:46 <Finwe> You might not see them, but they're there!

23:47 <Finwe> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYYtcuEOJJU

23:47 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Jonathan Coulton - Bacteria [H.Q.]

23:49 <Finwe> Bacteria on Chiron Beta Prime o3o

23:49 * Schism counters by providing Finwe with some Tom Lehrer songs.

23:50 <Cepheid> https://i.imgur.com/edVnK2K.png Something happened here.  All those grey boxes and grey arrows are lockboxes and/or destroyed ships.

23:50 <Schism> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WHSVOVLmNY

23:50 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.

23:50 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Tom Lehrer | “I Got It From Agnes”

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23:51 <Schism> *derp*

23:51 <DerpyBot> *derp*

23:51 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Tom Lehrer | “I Got It From Agnes”

23:51 * Ali derps over Schism

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23:52 <Finwe> !hug

23:52 <DerpyBot> Hugtiem? :3

23:52 * DerpyBot wraps her front hooves around Finwe in a tight embrace

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23:54 <Schism> Hum.  I'm unsurprised: the box of fig rolls I picked up is nearly empty.

23:54 <Cepheid> Right, back to work for me.

23:56 <Finwe> Bedtiem, too.

23:56 <Finwe> !lullaby

23:56 * DerpyBot carries Finwe off to bed

23:56 * DerpyBot tucks Finwe in and hums a lullaby

23:56 <Finwe> !shoo

23:56 * DerpyBot sways from side to side, quietly humming "shoo be doo shoo shoo be doo"

23:56 <Finwe> Good night, everypony!

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