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00:30 * Finwe should not have woken up this early.
00:30 * Finwe sleepily noms on Ali's tail.
00:30 * Ali pat pats Finwe
00:31 <Finwe> 3:31 AM is when you should still be fast asleep.
00:31 <Ali> I'll move you to my time zone, cause its 8:31PM
00:40 <Finwe> o3o
00:47 <uni> good morning~
00:47 * uni flops
00:49 * Ali flips a uni
00:49 * uni flipflops, like a fish
01:26 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Say Something Nice About Princess Zipp Storm! [ https://tinyurl.com/yhr5spzk ]
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02:31 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Makenshi: Pony Aircraft Music: eksoka - Alternate Wing [Trance] [ https://tinyurl.com/yjvv8hmc ]
02:31 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Nightly Discussion #2490 [ https://tinyurl.com/yfjtsmcf ]
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04:21 <Cyan_Spark> I wonder what unicodingunicorn is up to these days
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04:32 <uni> oh he left
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04:38 * Ali squeaks to uni
04:38 * uni squeaksqueaks back at Ali
04:38 <uni> I should set my old name to ping me
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04:51 * Ali flops over uni, what is that?
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04:52 <uni> unicodingunicorn!
04:52 <uni> I just got really lazy to type that
04:55 <Ali> Oh dat
04:55 * Ali noms on, they don't seem that active on discord
05:00 <uni> mhmm, I don't talk much like anywhere
05:00 * uni whines at the nibbles, isn't food!
05:00 * Ali shurgs and noms on uni ear
05:01 <uni> not food!
05:01 <Ali> And when did nomming ears become so bad?
05:01 * uni pouts and rubs his chewed ear
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06:57 * Dappled gets into your house and eats all your cookies.
06:57 * Finwe hats on Ali.
06:57 * Ali grabs the Dappled and snugs on with her new hat
06:58 * Dappled snugs the Ali more. Good friend pone.
06:58 <Finwe> Good morning, my pastel-coloured equines of smallish dimensions.
06:58 <Finwe> Mlles Ali and Schism; Messrs Dappled, Cepheid, Lumindia and PinkieShy.
06:58 * Finwe doffs himself.
06:59 * Ali nuzzles Dappled lots
06:59 <Dappled> Morning.
07:04 <Finwe> “No, sire. On Wednesdays the king always enjoys chicken, sire.”
07:06 <Finwe> But it's Monday today.
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11:06 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Morning Discussion #2262 [ https://tinyurl.com/yeav7w3b ]
11:08 * uni noms Cyan_Spark
11:08 <Cyan_Spark> Hello uni
11:09 <uni> you tried to ping me earlier this afternoon?
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11:28 <RazorSharpFang> Hey heys
11:33 <uni> heyo!
12:02 * Cepheid awakens.
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12:09 <Cyan_Spark> Oh yes
12:09 <Cyan_Spark> Also, Razor the investor
12:14 <RazorSharpFang> Hey heys
12:20 <Finwe> Mr Cyan_Spark the greeter of Razor the investor, Mr RazorSharpFang the investor.
12:20 * Finwe doffs his hat.
12:20 <Cyan_Spark> :3
12:20 <Cyan_Spark> Hi Finwe
12:29 <Cepheid> What's the difference between a literalist and a kleptomaniac?
12:30 <Cepheid> A literalist takes things literally, while a kleptomaniac takes things, literally.
12:30 <Finwe> Boo!
12:31 <Cepheid> https://imgur.com/gallery/c9cpDiD
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12:44 <Cepheid> Hope the server updates didn't impact you too much Razor.
12:52 <RazorSharpFang> Negative, I was playing Among Us today.
12:52 <Lumindia> that's kinda sus
12:53 <Cepheid> Ah.
12:53 <Cepheid> 'Cause I updated the mods.
12:53 <RazorSharpFang> Ooh.
12:54 <RazorSharpFang> There's quite a few folk speaking japanese playing Among Us now.
12:55 <RazorSharpFang> Gives me a chance to practise 日本語が少し話せます
12:56 <AppleDash> I too enjoy practicing my boxes with numbers and letters in them
12:57 <Cepheid> Same thing happens on my end due to font stuffs.
12:57 <RazorSharpFang> Sad
12:57 <AppleDash> Yeah, I finally got Asian fonts working on my OTHER laptop... And then I switched back to this one
12:58 <Cepheid> Hum, that's... an interesting way to create a tileset. Tilesetter is a tool that generates tilesets by combining tiles, and "sources" which are other tiles, and some various bits of trickery, to generate composited tilesets.
12:58 <AppleDash> Hey, I fixed it, I found the package my friend recommended I install
12:58 <AppleDash> I still can't read it, but at least I see the correct symbols now
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13:02 <Finwe> Mr AppleDash.
13:02 * Finwe doffs his hat.
13:05 <Cepheid> In the case of a program like Hexchat on Windows, you need to be using a font that explicitly has the glyphs for the language in question.
13:05 <Cepheid> I use DejaVu for that.
13:06 <AppleDash> Oof, that's a little dumb. I just had to install a second font that has the glyphs
13:06 <AppleDash> noto-fonts-cjk in this case
13:07 <Cepheid> It's more an issue with Hexchat under Windows explicitly, because of it's reliance on GTK2, which I don't think has knowledge of the fonts installed on Windows in the same manner it does with Linux.
13:08 <AppleDash> Makes sense
13:08 <Cepheid> Can get a list of installed fonts and use them just fine, but probably doesn't have knowledge on which ones to pick for what.
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13:27 <uni> 试一试
13:27 <uni> oh no that did not work
13:28 <Finwe> What's that supposed to mean?
13:28 <Cepheid> I suspect it was an emoji of some sort.
13:28 * uni is testing fonts!
13:28 <uni> it just meant like testing
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13:29 <Finwe> "Give it a try", claims Google Translate.
13:29 <Finwe> Shi yi shi.
13:30 <uni> mhmm~
13:30 <uni> also hmph that was such a lie, Deja Vu does not do CJK
13:30 <Cepheid> Strangely it handled Razor's input.
13:31 <RazorSharpFang> え
13:31 <uni> hmm maybe it's the version I'm using
13:31 <uni> I just pulled it off the website
13:31 <Finwe> RazorSharpFang's text is Japanese.
13:32 <Finwe> Nihongo ga sukoshi hanasemasu?
13:32 <RazorSharpFang> Yes. I speak a little Japanese.
13:32 <Cepheid> Same.
13:32 <uni> the only Japanese I know is ship names~
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13:35 <uni> oh well this is annoying
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13:45 <LibrarianofHope> i have insurance classes
13:45 * LibrarianofHope defenstrates himself
13:47 <LibrarianofHope> i have to take a license renewal exam
13:47 <LibrarianofHope> which means study again
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14:01 <Schism> blurgh
14:01 <Schism> Monday morning. 60,000 people calling in, "You need to cancel my order!"
14:07 <Cepheid> Why a sudden surge of cancellations?
14:08 <Schism> Because it's Monday.
14:10 <RazorSharpFang> Monday is the best day. Except for all the other days.
14:11 <Schism> While this isn't exactly an explanation, it's the truth. People call in or chat in for cancellations on Monday mornings far more than other days. Or, at least, there's a wave thereof at that point, possibly driven by the belief that we're somehow not open on the weekends.
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14:15 <RazorSharpFang> Market is red-red today.
14:16 <RazorSharpFang> Except for Tesla because reasons
14:49 <Cepheid> https://devblogs.microsoft.com/dotnet/introducing-net-multi-platform-app-ui/ Hey RazorSharpFang. This might interest you in the future.
14:50 <Cepheid> Multiplatform UI API for .NET.
14:50 <Cepheid> Though I still don't see Linux support on it. macOS is there, though.
14:51 <Cepheid> Ah, it does have Linux support.
14:51 <RazorSharpFang> Yeah, I've seen that one. Had a few discussions about it in our workplace. It /seems/ neat, but in heavy industry, we prioritise the tried-and-true over experimental tech.
14:51 <RazorSharpFang> ... We still have components using .Net Framework 3.5
14:52 <Cepheid> Fair enough.
14:52 <RazorSharpFang> For us, just migrating to .Net Core 3.1 would be a huge challenge, let alone .Net 6.
14:52 <Cepheid> Admittedly the problem with later versions of .NET is lack of support for ARM32 and other specialty architectures.
14:52 <RazorSharpFang> I'm hoping to get there eventually, but there's a LOT of work to do across both the PLC-side of things and the C#-code side of things.
14:52 <Cepheid> It's mostly x86, x86-64, and ARM64.
14:53 <RazorSharpFang> All we use is x86-64 right now.
14:53 <RazorSharpFang> ARM64 would be something new.
14:53 <Cepheid> Mm.]
14:53 <Cepheid> Then it's mostly about OS support then, I suppose.
14:54 <RazorSharpFang> ... Wait no. We're not even 64-bit yet.
14:54 <RazorSharpFang> Our OPC-DA libraries are 32-bit only.
14:57 <Cepheid> I should switch my game project to C# and MonoGame or FNA. The shaders I need aren't that complicated, and I can write them in HLSL.
14:57 <RazorSharpFang> I'm ready to drop OPC-DA and our OPC-DA server as soon as possible, but it would also require our app to target Framework 4.7.2 instead of 4.5.2
14:57 <Cepheid> I also prefer C# over C++ for a few reasons.
14:57 <RazorSharpFang> It's easier to not leak memory in C#
14:57 <Cepheid> The biggest one for me is the implicit nature of a lot of stuff in C++.
14:58 <Cepheid> Nothing like having to explicitly type "SomeClass(const SomeClass&) = delete;" just to prevent a copy constructor from being implicitly created.
14:58 <Cepheid> There's issues with generics, as well.
14:59 <Cepheid> And yes, the memory management is nice, even if it impacts performance a tad.
14:59 <Cepheid> Fortunately, switching to MonoGame and C# only sets me back a slight bit.
14:59 <RazorSharpFang> That said, I've leaked memory perfectly fine in C#
14:59 <Cepheid> About a day's worth of code.
14:59 <Cepheid> If that.
15:01 <RazorSharpFang> I remember once I leaked 32 GB in a matter of seconds when I hadn't deregistered an event handler.
15:01 <Cepheid> Oof.
15:04 <Finwe> 32 GB? That's like nothing.
15:05 <Cepheid> In scientific work, yeah.
15:05 <Cepheid> In industrial and gaming, it's a bit much.
15:06 <Cepheid> Even X4 only uses up 12-16GB of RAM maximum, but then, it holds the entire game world in RAM for simulation purposes.
15:06 <Cepheid> ... Speaking of, ****. I forgot to backup my save for that game.
15:07 <Finwe> I once jammed one of my university's computing severs by running a program that generates radioactive decay series for given isotopes.
15:07 <Finwe> At that time, I think there was 256 GB of memory.
15:09 <Finwe> With heavier elements the number of possible decay products becomes rather large quite fast.
15:10 <Cepheid> Mmhmm.
15:10 <RazorSharpFang> Cepheid, for us, the make-or-break feature for MAUI is embedding something like an SFML Accelerated-graphics drawing surface. We need that for drawing the map.
15:10 <Cepheid> Ah.
15:10 <RazorSharpFang> Our older WinForms Framework 3.5 control could only manage 4 FPS before it chugged hard.
15:11 <Cepheid> In any case, touching C# today is... a mixed bag. I don't really feel up to coding today, or doing much of anything today. Depression's hitting hard.
15:11 <Cepheid> I plan to get out of the house later, but that's when my dad gets home.
15:12 <RazorSharpFang> I guess our application is pretty specialised. Scada/HMI is not that typical.
15:21 <RazorSharpFang> And Mobile Plants aren't typical either.
15:21 <Cepheid> Mmhmm.
15:23 <Cepheid> On one hand, I like that the wind is getting into my room for a change, so I'm getting fresh air and all that.
15:23 <Cepheid> On the other hand, what the hell?
15:23 <Cepheid> What kind of winds are we getting that it's overpowering the pressure in my room?
15:24 <RazorSharpFang> It's a combined typhoon and hurricane.
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18:08 <uni> ah the important news
19:11 <Cepheid> Only 3 PM and already I feel like there's no point in being awake, and that I should just drug myself to sleep.
19:11 <Cepheid> Can't code. Can't play games.
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19:16 <Schism> When professional photographers are unable to print off a UPS return label such that it doesn't bleed off the page...
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19:23 <Cepheid> Cute. My tablet appears to have finally died.
19:24 <Cepheid> Battery is most definitely charged, but the screen refuses to turn on.
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19:46 <Rst> Hello friends
19:46 <Rst> https://www.irccloud.com/invite?channel=%23chatfriendly&hostname=irc.rizon.net&port=6697&ssl=1
19:46 <Rst> Join us
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19:52 <LibrarianofHope> the ine time no ali
19:52 <LibrarianofHope> colgate
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20:37 <LibrarianofHope> weird thing colhi
20:37 <LibrarianofHope> i mean
20:38 <LibrarianofHope> hi
20:38 <LibrarianofHope> preloaded text owo
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21:16 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Drawfriend Stuff (Pony Art Gallery) #3663 [ https://tinyurl.com/yhmhfvmg ]
21:20 <Cepheid> I could use a bottle of vodka.
21:21 <Cepheid> Or Fireball.
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21:43 <Schism> Monday: LCBO's closed.
21:43 * Schism returns from work and immediately preps to go down to the Shoppers. "Ffs."
21:44 <Cepheid> Still. Can't drink anyway.
21:45 <Cepheid> Besides all the other drugs, I want the prednisone to work. Alcohol would just inhibit that.
21:45 <Schism> Picking up insulin and cyproterone. Also picking up shampoo, conditioner, some sort of exfoliating skin thingy, and whatever else comes to mind.
21:46 <Schism> Maybe general medical tape.
21:46 <Cepheid> Also knock me out that much faster. I would not get any enjoyment out of it. Not unless I blacked out and lost some memories.
21:46 <Schism> Mmm.
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21:57 * Filly_Nightmares skreeeee
21:57 <Cepheid> I need either a coffee or a monster energy.
21:58 <DerpyBot> *derp*
21:58 * Filly_Nightmares hungry!
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22:12 * LibrarianofHope noms surry
22:14 <Finwe> Miss Filly_Nightmares, mr LibrarianofHope.
22:14 * Finwe doffs his hat.
22:17 * LibrarianofHope doffs surry
22:20 * Finwe would nom on Ali, but the cute unicorn seems to be away at the moment.
22:33 * Filly_Nightmares purrr and kneads LibrarianofHope face and gnaw on Finwe
22:42 <LibrarianofHope> le owo
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23:22 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: My Little Pony Speedpaint Compilation #183 [ https://tinyurl.com/yj7wsnzd ]
23:28 * Schism flumps.
23:29 <Schism> Cepheid: It so transpires that Halls cough drops are $.99 a bag at Shoppers. So I picked up about 12 bags. (Also like 8 things of shampoo.)
23:39 <Cepheid> Heh. Spitfire, do you mind?
23:42 <Schism> "He's the enemy! The prince of lies!" "Lies are just creative truths."
23:44 <LibrarianofHope> prince of lies?
23:44 <LibrarianofHope> i know like 3
23:45 <LibrarianofHope> also a fly prince, a bunch of daemon princes
23:45 <LibrarianofHope> a truck prince
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23:53 * Ali flumps has an issue everyone else wouldn't care about..
23:53 <LibrarianofHope> owo
23:53 * LibrarianofHope polishes ali
23:53 <LibrarianofHope> is that a cry fpor help or a dont wanna talk about it?
23:53 <LibrarianofHope> cause i helps if you wants
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