00:04 <Schism> Cepheid: Don't suppose you'd want to play an LTTP randomizer run.
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02:47 <PinkieShy> I looks like the people that threatened me while i was walking a few months ago in the neighborhood i live in.. They moved out.
02:47 <PinkieShy> I'm glad about that tbh.. I was scared to walk in that direction because of them.. Like seriously who would run out of their house when your no where near their yard or going in it at all and they just threaten to bust your teeth out..
02:49 <PinkieShy> I was using my phone as a body cam every time i went for a walk for a while there after that..
02:49 <PinkieShy> So if anybody else would do it i would just inform the police or something as its not right to do that stuff to people.. Plus chances are if they did it to me they do it to others..
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03:23 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: (UK) - My Little Pony: Pony Life Season 2 Episode 11 - Playwright or Wrong / Shows Must Go On - Discussion / Stream [ https://tinyurl.com/yhvef4k7 ]
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03:47 <Schism> Well.
03:48 <Schism> Told my brother I'm trans. He's decided that I'm clearly not his sibling, and will henceforth be moving out due to Reasons.
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03:49 <Schism> My mother is going to have a few moments to speak with him. In the interim, I shall move my medication and associated things to a safe place.
03:51 <Ali> Well he can't steal your shit then
03:52 * Ali flops over Schism and noms ear
03:53 <Schism> The lamp in my apartment is currently flickering in a very profound manner.
03:54 <Ali> Awkward
03:54 <Ali> Like ghostly or someone raging in another room?
03:54 <Schism> Like 'every time my eye twitches'.
03:55 <Schism> Not really, but it's been flickering inconsistently and I'm really hoping that at this point I'm going to develop some type of poltergeist ability.
03:55 <Ali> I doubt it, probably just means the bulb is about to give out.
03:56 <Schism> Or the fuse, I know.
03:57 <Ali> depends on if its a fuse based light or just the newer bulbs
03:57 <Schism> Oh, my apartment has fuses rather than switches.
03:57 <Schism> Old housing unit.
03:58 * Ali licks Schism nosie and gwumps very hard in two minutes
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05:15 <Schism> I'm not able to sleep tonight.
05:15 <Schism> I'm not going to be able to work tomorrow.
05:15 <Schism> Today. Whatever.
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06:10 <Schism> Cepheid: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EzEoDB4WEAAUkPP?format=jpg&name=medium
06:10 <Schism> Though Ali, you might like that one too.
06:11 <Ali> Pft
06:11 <Ali> Dunno as I've not have to give cats pills, but doggos are just as bad about it.
06:12 <Schism> Eventually you shall learn...
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07:25 <Finwe> Good forenoon, everypony!
07:25 <Finwe> Mlles Angeline, Jackie_ and Schism; Messrs AppleDash and Cepheid.
07:25 * Finwe doffs his hat.
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07:37 <ConfusionRift> Hello everypony.
07:42 <Finwe> Lt Cdr ConfusionRift, Capt Koopz.
07:42 <Finwe> o7
07:42 <ConfusionRift> RAdm. Finwe. (salutes)
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08:15 <Koopz> RAdm. Finwe o7
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08:45 <Golden> Bluh
08:47 <ConfusionRift> Yep... same.
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08:55 <Golden> I got my first covid vaccine shot. I feel like crud...
09:21 <Lumindia> that's normal
09:21 * Lumindia patpat
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09:29 <Koopz> apparently not when you get Biontech
09:29 <Koopz> aside from a hurting arm
09:30 <Koopz> supposedly you'll notice something on the second shot tho
09:30 <Koopz> Astra Zenica on the other hand has side effects on the first shot
09:31 <Koopz> judging by the current speed i expect to get vaccined... next year? ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
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09:37 <Koopz> germany is going from old to young, important to lesser important
09:39 <Koopz> 6.4% have two shots
09:46 * Surreal_Nightmares nom nom nom nom nom Koopz
09:46 *** Surreal_Nightmares is now known as Filly_Nightmares
09:46 * Filly_Nightmares eeeeeeeeee
09:47 * Filly_Nightmares noms Golden tummy
09:54 <Koopz> let's see... currently the 70+ year olds are being handled
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10:03 <Koopz> oh, interestingly we easily doubled our vaccination numbers since last week...
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10:15 * Filly_Nightmares knead knead knead Jackie
10:17 * Jackie gives Filly_Nightmares choco pies
10:58 * Filly_Nightmares nom nom nom Jackie and pie!
11:03 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Morning Discussion #2266 [ https://tinyurl.com/yg9wznwa ]
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11:59 * Dapper_Dappled takes a moment to scream in rage. Went to work at 5:30. Arrived home at 7:00
12:02 <Finwe> 1.5 or 13.5 hours?
12:02 <Dapper_Dappled> 13.5
12:03 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Hasbro Rejects Working With Pony Tale Adventures [ https://tinyurl.com/yhcz98tf ]
12:03 <Finwe> Rather assiduous spell of work.
12:05 <Dapper_Dappled> It's more that we don't have the workers/equipment than difficulty. Cause those of us doing work on foot can't help those on forklifts pull faster if we don't have forklifts of our own. And of course with medical marijuana being a thing, a lot of my coworkers can't be on the forklifts at all.
12:05 <Finwe> Needless to say, Stakhanov would have come home first at 9:00 and been at least doubly as productive.
12:07 * Dapper_Dappled did want to get home at a reasonable hour so he could sleep pre leaving for the hour and a half drive to covid vaccine, but that's out the window, so I'm going to hang out for the next 5 hours or so.
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12:09 <Finwe> Mlles Schism|Nocturne and Schism.
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12:09 * Finwe doffs his hat.
12:09 * Schism hars... and sighs. "Stupid computer rebooting... not what I needed this morning there, either."
12:10 <Finwe> Bon voyage, Miss Schism|Nocturne.
12:10 * Schism doffs her trail mix.
12:17 * Schism randomly passes Cepheid a copy of Helvetica Standard.
12:24 <Schism> Bloomberg News: "Multiple people are looking to buy Squeenix." Squeenix: "Hah, no."
12:25 <Schism> So worry not there, Lumindia. o5o
12:25 * Dapper_Dappled would buy Squeenix.
12:25 <Lumindia> kek
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12:38 * Dapper_Dappled grumbles. Forgot that characters in Darkest Dungeon got uppity and wouldn't do quests below there level.
12:38 <Schism> Time to kill 'em all and start over.
12:39 <Dapper_Dappled> Eh. It's only Dismas and a Plague Doctor right now. I've got enough other characters, just a thing to remember.
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13:22 <Lumindia> henlo
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13:33 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Comic: Rally Point Returns 6 / Time Out / Singing Storm 17 / Movie Slate: Roleplay / Next Gen 39 [ https://tinyurl.com/yz48y8w5 ]
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14:36 <Schism|Nocturne> Jean Grey is still as memorable as ever. https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/61457000
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14:37 <LibrarianofHope> im about to have insruance math class
14:38 <LibrarianofHope> doesnt that just sounds so damn fond
14:38 * LibrarianofHope plops
14:39 <RazorSharpFang> Is this like actuarial risk management?
14:40 <Cyan_Spark> Razor the investor
14:40 <LibrarianofHope> nope
14:40 <RazorSharpFang> Hey heys
14:40 <LibrarianofHope> maybe
14:40 <LibrarianofHope> i ahte math
14:40 <Cyan_Spark> ...instant ramen was definitely not enough for dinner
14:41 <LibrarianofHope> isntant ramen is basically a snack
14:53 * Cepheid awakens and graaghs.
14:58 <RazorSharpFang> Green energy stocks are recovering a little bit.
14:58 <RazorSharpFang> A brief respite.
15:02 * Schism looks at Waring's problem, and shakes her head... "Not in any sense to think straight."
15:04 <Schism> Also fun is Goldbach's conjecture. "Every even integer greater than 2 is the sum of two primes."
15:09 <RazorSharpFang> Can you prove it tho?
15:09 <Schism> Hah. Not to any satisfaction.
15:09 * RazorSharpFang proves it by exhaustion
15:10 * Schism eyebrows.
15:10 <RazorSharpFang> I'll get there eventually
15:10 <LibrarianofHope> im here despairing over math class and you do complicated math for fun
15:10 <LibrarianofHope> owo
15:11 <Schism> It's not complicated, really. 4 = 2+2. 6 = 3+3. 8 = 3+5. 10=5+5. And so on.
15:11 <LibrarianofHope> why cant i just bribe someone to pass the isurance exam again and not have to study
15:11 <RazorSharpFang> And here I thought they had to be two different primes.
15:11 <ADragonDreaming> 2+2 = 5
15:11 <LibrarianofHope> i have to take an exam to renew my license
15:11 <Schism> For extremely large values of 2, perhaps.
15:11 <Schism> Whyever so, RSF?
15:12 <RazorSharpFang> You know, just like 1 isn't a prime, where it's "X and 1" interpreted to be X != 1
15:12 * Schism also nods to LibrarianofHope. "At least that math is comparatively basic..."
15:12 * LibrarianofHope pokes schism, cause owo
15:12 <Schism> RSF: Hence 'greater than 2'.
15:12 <LibrarianofHope> we dont even have drivings exams
15:12 <RazorSharpFang> Yes, but "2 primes" I thought of as "Two unique distinct primes"
15:13 <LibrarianofHope> why for insurance
15:13 <Schism> Also, any odd number over 5 can be expressed as the sum of three primes. o3o
15:13 <LibrarianofHope> why is the goverment doing due dilegence only in that
15:13 <LibrarianofHope> why the rito
15:13 * LibrarianofHope whys a lot
15:13 <RazorSharpFang> Given the people I've seen pass their tests I wouldn't call it due diligence.
15:14 <LibrarianofHope> but you see my point
15:14 <LibrarianofHope> i been doing this hellish job for 5 years
15:14 <LibrarianofHope> heck me
15:15 <RazorSharpFang> I'm sure making you re-do tests is a fantastic use of taxpayer money.
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15:16 <RazorSharpFang> Schism, do you know what the proper term is for the little squishy thing in the middle of laptops that lets you move the mouse around?
15:17 <Schism> Pointing stick, or nubbin.
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15:18 <Schism> Half the manufacturers have their own independent names for the thing, though.
15:19 <RazorSharpFang> Turkey outlawed buying anything using Cryptos.
15:20 <RazorSharpFang> Interesting thing to focus on.
15:21 <Schism> Considering the overwhelming environmental impact of the Etherium and Bitcoin blockchain currencies, it seems at least modestly reasonable, though I'm certain that their proponents will immediately respond with claims of fascism/whathaveyou.
15:22 <ADragonDreaming> I mean, Turkey *is* fascist.
15:22 <ADragonDreaming> buying things with Cryptos is a way to hide the transaction from prying eyes
15:22 <RazorSharpFang> I don't think Turkey did that out of care for the environment, given their environmental policies.
15:22 <Schism> True enough.
15:23 <ADragonDreaming> so the move can be simultaneously environmentally friendly, and a move to expand fascist ogvernment surveillance.
15:23 <Schism> One can do good things for evil reasons, after all.
15:24 <RazorSharpFang> Right, but you'll have to forgive me for not jumping for joy when they're making preparations to clamp down on pro-democracy movements.
15:24 <Schism> Indeed.
15:24 <Cepheid> RazorSharpFang: That little squishy thing is, in fact, called a pointing stick. Don't ask me why.
15:24 <ADragonDreaming> and can do bad things, presenting them as being done for good reasons.
15:25 <Schism> Mmm.
15:25 <RazorSharpFang> I'll call it a pointing stick.
15:25 <RazorSharpFang> I've seen some very creative names for it.
15:25 <Cepheid> Including some not-so-creative names.
15:26 <Schism> There is an XKCD comic about it.
15:26 <RazorSharpFang> Of course there is
15:26 <Schism> For reasons of vulgarity, I shan't link it here.
15:27 <RazorSharpFang> Webcomic still hasn't updated since April 2, 2021.
15:27 <RazorSharpFang> ... Flip. I meant 2012
15:27 * Schism headtilts, "Which, again?"
15:27 <RazorSharpFang> Coming Up Violet, an older webcomic.
15:27 * uni pokes Schism for the number
15:27 <uni> I wanna read it!
15:28 <Schism> 243.
15:28 <Schism> RSF: Oh yeah, from the artist behind Namir Deiter and Fur Will Fly.
15:28 <uni> okie~
15:28 <uni> thanks!
15:29 <Schism> At least, I think it's the same artist as Namir Deiter...
15:29 <RazorSharpFang> Schism, yeah that one. I was sad when a despite between the writer and artist ended it. I've been revising it every month as a ritual.
15:30 <Schism> Huh. Okay, I wasn't entirely off, there was a crossover between that and FWF. Also, The Suburban Jungle.
15:30 * Schism also nods.
15:31 * Cepheid guhs. Her neck hurts from oversleeping.
15:31 * Schism passes Cepheid a warm flaxseed compress. "Bleh."
15:32 <Finwe> Good evening, my little ponies.
15:33 <Schism> Pity that Umlaut House stopped, too. That one was fun.
15:33 <Schism> rAdm. Finwe.
15:33 * Schism doffs her soda.
15:33 <Finwe> Miss Schism; Messrs uni, RazorSharpFang and ADragonDreaming.
15:33 * Finwe doffs his hat.
15:35 <RazorSharpFang> One of my coworkers got the vaccine and had to go to hospital.
15:36 <RazorSharpFang> Apparently that's pretty typical. He was surprised that this wasn't told.
15:36 <Schism> Bleh. Well, the rate of side effects that severe is low, but they do happen.
15:37 <Cepheid> Probably didn't need a hospital visit, probably just wasn't expecting the side effects to be as bad as they were. Though I suppose if you have pre-existing conditions, it might affect things a bit worse.
15:38 <RazorSharpFang> No, he got recommended to the hospital after a doctors' consultation.
15:38 <RazorSharpFang> Probably something to do with diabetes?
15:38 <Cepheid> Ah.
15:38 <Schism> Mm, sometimes those side effects can spark ketoacidosis.
15:38 <Cepheid> I wonder how I'll react to it.
15:38 <uni> good evening, Finwe
15:38 * Cepheid gets vaccine.
15:39 * uni hats on Finwe
15:39 <Cepheid> *Five minutes later* *Six feet under*
15:39 <RazorSharpFang> I don't know, the risk factors are really weird, there's a lot of stats involved and I still don't know how to do factor analysis.
15:39 <Cepheid> I'll likely be fine, myself.
15:40 <Cepheid> Schism, with their history of ketoacidosis, I must admit I'm a tad worried about.
15:41 <Schism> Mmm. When I get the injection, I'll very definitely be keeping an even closer eye on my BGs.
15:42 <Cepheid> Greatest concern for me is how it might affect my breathing.
15:42 <Cepheid> Oh dear gods HOW!? My mother just told me to try some canteloupe. Nope, NOPE. That stuff tastes like it's something rotten.
15:43 <ADragonDreaming> is it crisp or mushy?
15:43 <ADragonDreaming> ripe canteloup should be firm and somewhat crisp when you bite into it.
15:43 <ADragonDreaming> if it's soft and mushy then, yes, it's overripe, potentially rotten.
15:43 <Cepheid> Crisp.
15:44 <Cepheid> But it tastes mouldy and rotten.
15:44 <ADragonDreaming> hm.
15:44 <Cepheid> But then, I've never been a fan of melons.
15:44 <ADragonDreaming> odd.
15:44 <Cepheid> Most, if not all melons taste like off-tasting water to me.
15:44 <ADragonDreaming> they are a very watery fruit, yes.
15:44 <Cepheid> The rest taste like sugar water, just water and sugar and nothing else.
15:44 <Schism> I have _never_ liked cantaloupe. Watermelon, sure, fine. Honeydew, maybe. Sprite melon, okay. But...
15:45 <Cepheid> Long story short, I can't eat melons of any kind.
15:45 <Cepheid> My stomach does not handle it well.
15:45 <Schism> That's a shame. Eating nothing but melons is how you get the highest score in every level.
15:46 <ADragonDreaming> perhaps you have mild allergy or sensitivity to something in them.
15:46 <ADragonDreaming> I like canteloupe, but my favorite melon is honeydew.
15:46 <Cepheid> https://imgur.com/gallery/oBpBVNS
15:50 * Cepheid stretches, yawns.
15:50 <Schism> Slightly less... broken than last night.
15:51 <Schism> But I am intensely glad that I took today off.
15:51 <Cepheid> https://imgur.com/gallery/W75qieW
15:52 <Schism> The presentation needs work, but we know this.
15:52 <Cepheid> I know, but I thought I'd share it for those who didn't.
15:52 * Schism noddles.
15:55 <Schism> Heh. Getting 30 melons in every level of Yoshi's Story is evidently a sublimely difficult task.
15:55 <ADragonDreaming> we've got similar problems over here.
15:56 <ADragonDreaming> *sings* If I were a despot!
15:56 <Schism> o/` If I were a deep one... glub glub glub glub glub glub glub glub glub glub glub. All day long I'd swim beneath the sea. If I were a deep one...
15:56 <ADragonDreaming> All infrastructure would become publicly owned with all telecom operators esentially leasing its use.
15:57 <ADragonDreaming> "But property rights!"
15:57 <ADragonDreaming> "I'm a despot."
15:57 <Schism> All hail Adra Wulfenbach.
15:58 <ADragonDreaming> I would be the politician who takes campaign contributions and then ignores the lobbyists that gave me money.
15:58 <ADragonDreaming> they complain, I hit back with "are you suggesting there was a quid pro quo? That would be illegal."
16:00 * Finwe doffs his uni.
16:00 * Finwe offers a köttpirog to Schism.
16:00 <RazorSharpFang> Happy midnight from Australia
16:01 <Finwe> Happy five hours before midnight from Finland.
16:01 <Finwe> Wasn't it midnight in civilised parts of Australia like for two hours ago?
16:02 <RazorSharpFang> Excuse you. The west coast is civilised too.
16:02 <Finwe> *cough*
16:03 <Cepheid> RazorSharpFang, I can't recall, are arrays of blittable types set to 0 by default in C#?
16:03 <Cepheid> Ah, everything is set to a default value by default.
16:03 <RazorSharpFang> Yes. An array of int will be ints of 0
16:03 <Finwe> RazorSharpFang: Ah, you must be referring to the borough of Rockingham.
16:04 <Cepheid> 'Kay, I switch between C# and C++ regularly, so I get confused a bit.
16:04 <Cepheid> C++ doesn't initialize to a default value.
16:04 <RazorSharpFang> Mmm, raw memory
16:05 <Cepheid> Hum. So, this already supports visual layers, so next up to implement is, hmm..
16:05 <Cepheid> Some basic collision detection stuff, I guess. But for that, I need a distinct collision layer in the room/map definition.
16:06 <Cepheid> Because I don't plan for the individual tiles themselves to store their own collision information, because of oddities in the game I am cloning.
16:06 <RazorSharpFang> You can use a quadtree for efficient collision detection if there's no notion of grid-fixed.
16:06 <Cepheid> That's not the issue.
16:07 <Cepheid> First and foremost, the game I'm cloning, the collision data is NOT tied to the tiles themselves.
16:08 <Cepheid> This is evident in some areas of La-Mulana. A prime example being the Gate of Illusion.
16:08 <Cepheid> There's an area where solid floor simply becomes open space to fall through the floor and the wall respectively.
16:09 <Cepheid> Secondly, it's pixel-level checks.
16:09 <Cepheid> So I need to go "Okay, get the pixel at this location and tell me if it's solid or not."
16:09 <RazorSharpFang> Okay, but I still fail to see why the collision box for an entity needs to be the same size as the sprite.
16:09 <Cepheid> It doesn't need to be.
16:10 <Cepheid> It's just a convention, usually.
16:10 <Cepheid> Because it's simple.
16:10 <RazorSharpFang> Then I'm not seeing why you couldn't use a quadtree for the efficient collision detection.
16:10 <Cepheid> Oh, I'm not saying I won't use it.
16:11 <Cepheid> But it's not necessarily a critical thing needed, since the size of the ACTIVE play area is small enough that I don't need it.
16:11 <Cepheid> 48x27 tiles.
16:12 <Cepheid> Tiles are 20x20 pixels.
16:12 <Cepheid> So 960x540 pixel play area.
16:12 <RazorSharpFang> I needed to use a quad-tree since the "area" is huge, not defined into a grid with an undetermined number of entities to check.
16:12 <Cepheid> Mmhmm.
16:13 <Cepheid> And the more entities you have, the more viable the quadtree solution is.
16:14 <Cepheid> As you increase in number of entities, the number of checks you do goes up, and while you can reduce the number of checks by distinctly putting entities into groups of "enemy" "neutral" and "player", and then just doing "enemy"->"player" checks for example, it's possible the number of checks is still excessive.
16:14 <Cepheid> So, use a quadtree and collect only the entities in the cell the player is in, plus the neighbourhood. Which might drop the number of checks from say, a few thousand, to a few hundred.
16:15 <RazorSharpFang> I'm quite happy with the solution I've got. It's mostly for figuring out which "entities" you've clicked on.
16:15 <Cepheid> Which is why I can get away without it here. I don't expect more than a thousand entities on the screen at once.
16:15 <Cepheid> And they'll be split into distinct groups, so interactions between entities are limited.
16:15 <RazorSharpFang> Which UI framework did you end up choosing?
16:15 <Cepheid> I'll be rolling my own.
16:16 <RazorSharpFang> Pure OpenGL solution?
16:16 <Cepheid> Pure MonoGame/FNA/XNA solution.
16:16 <RazorSharpFang> Then I would consider MonoGame to BE the UI Framework.
16:16 <Cepheid> Fair enough.
16:17 <Cepheid> MonoGame is basically just a layer atop OpenTK, which itself is layered atop OpenGL/DX/Vulkan/Etc, which provides some basic functionality.
16:17 <Cepheid> Such as content loading, texture loading, etc.
16:17 <RazorSharpFang> From what I've seen MonoGame is more comprehensive than SFML, where SFML is just a layer atop OpenGL.
16:17 <Cepheid> Mmhmm.
16:18 <Cepheid> SFML and OpenTK basically provide a bare bones implementation of the graphics libraries, which allow you to make your own engine stuff.
16:18 <Cepheid> Though SFML is a bit more advance than OpenTK.
16:18 <Cepheid> SFML for example provides simple sprite/texture loading.
16:19 <RazorSharpFang> Yeah, I can just load up a PNG by pointing it to the filepath
16:19 <Cepheid> A full, proper OpenGL texture loading requires at least seven or eight function calls. glGenTextures(), glBindTexture(), whatever you need to do to load the image into a buffer, glTexImage2D(), glTexParameter() * number of parameters.
16:20 <Cepheid> To use it..
16:20 <Cepheid> glActiveTexture(), glBindTexture().
16:20 <Cepheid> It's even worse in Vulkan from what I understand.
16:20 <RazorSharpFang> And here I thought things would have gotten better.
16:20 <RazorSharpFang> Anyhow, I gotta head to sleep. Cyas.
16:21 <Cepheid> Vulkan complicates things in favour of better performance.
16:21 <Cepheid> You got much more precise control over where stuff goes.
16:23 <Cepheid> In any case, all I really need on my end right now is for my map stuff to require an explicit "Collision" layer, which uses a specific tileset by default. That's no real problem.
16:24 <Cepheid> I wish I hadn't overslept.
16:25 <Cepheid> I'm having trouble focusing because my mother cannot, and will not, stop talking.
16:25 <RazorSharpFang> Best of luck, I'm heading to sleep myself. Cyas.
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16:27 * Schism gets the glove after the puzzle in the Inferno Cavern. THAT puzzle.
16:28 <Cepheid> Which one? The puzzle for the flares?
16:29 <Schism> Heh, yaeh. Admittedly, not ACTUALLY playing the game right now. But no matter what, I always, always, always get the Glove _after_ taking care of the block pushing puzzle of evil.
16:29 <Cepheid> Heh.
16:29 <Cepheid> I did that in my recent run.
16:30 <Cepheid> You know, any politician who supports a law that allows for "investigating" a student for their gender should get a background check to see if maybe they support certain types of... rings.
16:30 <Schism> Referring to Florida's latest ... indiscretion?
16:32 <Cepheid> Yes.
16:33 * Cepheid hums. This new speaker set is nice. Just hooked it up via bluetooth to laptop.
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16:37 <Finwe> Lt Pony|72351.
16:37 <Finwe> o7
16:37 <Pony|72351> o7
16:40 <AppleDash> I always wake up to a highlight here but I never find out who it is
16:42 <Finwe> :D
16:42 <Finwe> Mr AppleDash.
16:42 * Finwe doffs his hat.
16:42 * Finwe also boops Schism with a free fox simulator on Epic Games: https://www.epicgames.com/store/en-US/p/the-first-tree
16:42 * uni nyams AppleDash!
16:43 <uni> Finwe, that games looks so pretty
16:43 <uni> *game
16:43 <uni> I like the art style, it reminds me of Breath of the Wild
16:44 <uni> I wish more games looked like that
16:44 <Finwe> All free games are purchased without hesitation, because more is more.
16:44 <Finwe> Well, there are some exceptions. I refused to accept GTA 5 for free.
16:46 <uni> the epic games app is so much bloat though
16:47 <Finwe> Well, I've never started a single Epic game I own.
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17:00 <Cepheid> Epic Games app is about as much bloat as Steam, Origin, or EA's platform, if you ask me.
17:00 <Cepheid> Steam may actually be worse.
17:00 <Cepheid> The concern is privacy, but again.
17:01 <Cepheid> Steam, Origin, EA, they all do their own things.
17:01 <Cepheid> Though, I'm not as good at analyzing software as the people who regularly scrutinize everything, but..
17:02 <Cepheid> Part of me likes to think there is bias that is causing greater scrutinization of software for one platform over another.
17:02 <Finwe> Well, it's probably not much worse than Steam.
17:03 <Cepheid> Truth told, the thing that bothers me about all the platforms is the hooking.
17:03 <Cepheid> They all hook into the games they run.
17:03 <Cepheid> That overlay we get? That's the hooking.
17:03 <Finwe> I still cannot but appreciate EA for not telling that you need to have 32-bit version of Visual C++ installed in order for Origin to install.
17:03 <Cepheid> Gods only knows what that's doing to the game engine itself.
17:04 <Finwe> Makes sure that only people with some level of competence use their platform.
17:04 <Cepheid> Yeah, that's a bad design choice.
17:04 <Cepheid> Forgetting to include the required distributable.
17:05 <Finwe> I'm still a bit baffled because of that. Could it be that Microsoft has included 32-bit Visual C++ as part of Windows, but doesn't do that anymore?
17:06 <Cepheid> There must have been an assumption of some sort.
17:06 <Cepheid> But I am more inclined to think it's a case of inexperienced developers going "It works on my end, so it must work on everyone else's end." while forgetting that they have all the runtimes they need because of the compiler environment they use.
17:07 <Finwe> The Origin installer just exits with "Error 0xc000007b".
17:08 <Cepheid> Invalid image format.
17:08 <Finwe> Trying to run the installer as admin it's a bit more verbose and names two missing dynamically linked libraries.
17:08 <Cepheid> Apparently, it means you tried to run a 64-bit application on a 32-bit OS or vice versa.
17:09 <Cepheid> Since 64-bit is supposed to support 32-bit applications, that means the runtime is likely missing.
17:10 <Cepheid> Before you comment on it not being an image, application executables have multiple terms ascribed to them, one of them being "image".
17:10 <Finwe> msvcp120.dll and some other
17:11 <Cepheid> Yeah, that's runtime DLLs missing.
17:11 <Cepheid> That'd be the MSVC++ 12.0 runtime, I think.
17:11 <Cepheid> Interestingly this problem isn't exclusive to Windows. I've run into it a few times under Linux as well.
17:11 <Cepheid> And Mac OS.
17:11 <Finwe> Fascinating.
17:12 <Cepheid> Some applications explicitly are built against certain runtime versions, and if those runtimes are missing, they won't run.
17:12 <Cepheid> And given that many distributions, when they upgrade packages, remove older packages..
17:13 <Cepheid> It can lead to major runtime version changes(Like going from 3.3 to 3.4, or 3.3 to 4.0) being installed, and older versions removed, which can cause problems.
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17:13 <Cepheid> I've actually had entire systems become unbootable and unfixable without a recovery disk because of it.
17:14 <Finwe> In my opinion, a good installer should check whether the dependencies are met, and either offer to install them or at least notify the user about what is missing.
17:14 <Cepheid> Mmmhmm.
17:15 <Cepheid> Problem is, most installers are separate tools, with minimal support for configuration. You just tell them what files you need packaged, where they go, and so on.
17:20 * Finwe noms on AppleDash's tail.
17:31 <Schism> Getting the fire rod early on makes me sad.
17:33 <Cepheid> As for your earlier question... A randomizer run would be interesting, but I'd need to go through the game normally first, as the last time I played ALTTP was... you know, I don't recall.
17:34 <Cepheid> Is ALTTP available on the SNES emulator for the Switch? It'd be a good game for me to play when I'm confined to bed.
17:34 <Schism> Good question... I think it is.
17:34 <Cepheid> It is.
17:34 <Schism> Aha. There's Progressive Glove #1.
17:35 <Cepheid> Hum, I'm not really feeling the code today.
17:35 <Cepheid> Especially as I have to redesign a lot of this.
17:35 <Cepheid> I really should plan this stuff ahead of time.
17:36 <Cepheid> It's too bad I can't wear contact lenses.
17:36 <Cepheid> I wouldn't have mind playing around with coloured lenses a bit.
17:37 <Cepheid> I have nearly-black eyes. If the schlera were black, I'd look like the Outsider from the Dishonored series.
17:38 * Schism uses magic powder to awaken the demon bat. She gets... 1 rupee.
17:38 <Schism> Hi Greg.
17:39 <Cepheid> Speaking of my appearance, I should go take a shower and shave this head hair of mine off.
17:40 <Cepheid> But yeh, right now the best I can do gaming wise is anything that allows me to play the game in bed.
17:40 * Schism nods, "Switch is good there, at least."
17:40 <Cepheid> So, Switch, 3DS, and if I can set up a proper, level area for it, anything on my laptop.
17:40 <Schism> Sanctuary drop had... oh, Progressive Bow 1.
17:41 <Cepheid> I could probably get away with using streaming to stream stuff from my PC to my laptop.
17:41 <Schism> Parsec is good for that.
17:41 <Cepheid> Yeah.
17:41 <Cepheid> Basically, it seems the problem is I just don't have the energy to sit up.
17:42 <Cepheid> Apparently this isn't uncommon with prednisone. My grandmother's been taking it, and like me, she's seeing a lot of the same problems.
17:42 <Cepheid> It just.. drains you.
17:42 <Cepheid> Anyways, gonna go do that shower.
17:42 <Cepheid> I'll be back in like, an hour.
17:47 <Schism> Zora. You're dead to me.
17:47 <ADragonDreaming> wa-hey, I managed to get a vaccine appointment
17:47 <Schism> Congrats!
17:47 <ADragonDreaming> april 30th had some appointment slots open at a Rite-Aid
18:04 <Schism> Progressive sword #2, LAMP FREAKING LAMP.
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18:35 <Schism> Moon pearl. Okay, we has options. Hm, to do that, or to hit up Agahnim's tower... eh, Kakariko first.
18:43 <ADragonDreaming> ...and then come to find out that walgreens had appointments tomorrow
18:44 <ADragonDreaming> and had not alerted me despite signing up for alert
18:44 <ADragonDreaming> oh well
19:05 * Schism manages to completely space on having enough rupees to unlock the Palace of Darkness. "Gh."
19:08 <LibrarianofHope> my head actively hurted from math
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19:10 * Schism sighs. "Castle Tower unclearable, Ice Palace unclearable..."
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19:17 <Schism> And as is typically hte case in these situations, I now have 1,800 rupees.
19:18 <Schism> the*
19:22 * Cepheid flops back in from shower and exercise.
19:22 <Cepheid> My breathing's starting to do a bit better, it seems.
19:28 <Cepheid> Man, that is an ungodly terrible hack job, but I see no other way to achieve what I want.
19:29 <Schism> Game, you're intent on forcing me into Skull Woods, aren't you.
19:34 * Schism goes to the palace of darkness instead. "Take THAT, game."
19:40 <Cepheid> Hack job solution for determining if a given tile is solid or not: Just check to see if any of the values of RGBA are non-zero. If they are, the pixel is solid.
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19:42 <Cepheid> Garbage solution for the time being, but right now all I need is "is solid or not solid?"
19:42 <Cepheid> And right now, MonoGame/XNA/FNA doesn't let me load simple 1bpp bitmaps as, well, 1bpp bitmaps.
19:43 <Cepheid> It loads them in as 32-bit RGBA, even if the image itself is saved explicitly as something else.
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19:45 <Cepheid> Man, Capcom is taking it's sweet-arse time teasing new monsters for the 2.0.0 patch.
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19:52 * Schism enters Skull Woods. She immediately finds the Magic Mirror and the Cane of Somaria. And then she cries.
19:55 <Cepheid> Head's starting to hurt. That's my cue to stop coding for the day.
19:55 <Cepheid> ALso to take painkillers.
19:58 <PonyToast> This place is so quiet.
19:58 <LibrarianofHope> we are hunting wabbits
19:59 <Schism> H'okay...
20:00 <Schism> Lynels are obnoxious without the mirror shield.
20:01 <Cepheid> Hum, instant noodles time.
20:09 <Schism> Hm, Cane of Byrna. Might go through the spike pit.
20:13 * Cepheid charges Switch.
20:15 <Schism> It is of course a categorical imperative that I defeat Agahnim with the bug-catching net.
20:16 <Cepheid> Heh.
20:18 <Schism> And so I have.
20:22 <Cepheid> Man, putting this old, ratty ottoman in my room was a good idea. I have somewhere to leave food and drinks sitting while I work now.
20:26 <Schism> Alright, Toadsmith, you're rescued. What do you have for me.
20:26 * Schism receives 10 arrows. "You're worthless."
20:35 <Cepheid> If Nintendo was smart, they'd hire the people who did the randomizer for ALTTP, and have them implement it as an option for their Switch SNES platform.
20:43 <Schism> This is absurd. At this rate, both the progressive armour upgrades are going to be in Ganon's Tower.
20:45 * Cepheid goes to start a new metroidvania game.
20:52 <Cepheid> God damnit.
20:52 <Cepheid> It wasn't the motherboard going when it came to the VGA beepcode.
20:52 <Cepheid> New board's doing "No VGA detected" beepcodes too.
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20:52 <Cepheid> I'm just gonna have to make it last as long as possible, because I cannot afford a replacement. Even if I didn't spend a cent of my tax return on anything else, I wouldn't have been able to afford a replacement.
21:23 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Final Warning for the Zipp and Pipp Open Art Event! [ https://tinyurl.com/yjfzmoqg ]
21:25 * Cepheid wanders around in Ori and the Blind Forest.
21:26 <Schism> Okay, Turtle Rock nearly complete. Missing one chest and the boss reward. ALSO missing the ice rod, so that's not going to be happening yet.
21:29 <Schism> Yeah, Trinexx isn't going to be beatable yet. Guess it's either Mothra or that frozen one.
21:39 <Schism> sigh. Missing ... the two crystals which would let me unlock the bomb.
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22:25 <LibrarianofHope> this dau has been exhausting
22:25 <LibrarianofHope> i am exhausted
22:25 <LibrarianofHope> no ali to poke
22:25 <LibrarianofHope> sad times
22:29 * Jackie boops
22:30 <LibrarianofHope> owo
22:30 * LibrarianofHope dances chunky, quite funky
22:35 * Schism takes the giant pink bomb to the pyramid. Therein, she gets three bombs and one red rupee. "I knew it was going to be crap..."
22:39 * Lumindia flop
22:39 * Lumindia pokes LibrarianofHope
22:39 <LibrarianofHope> owo
22:40 <Lumindia> henlo
22:41 <LibrarianofHope> hoi
22:41 <LibrarianofHope> im tired
22:41 <LibrarianofHope> i need a nap
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23:03 <Cepheid> Meanwhile, I need to lay down now.
23:07 <Cepheid> The hell, cat? Since when do you sneakily eat human food? Turns out he likes cheese nip crackers.
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23:13 <LibrarianofHope> ali
23:13 * LibrarianofHope glomps ali
23:13 * Ali flumps under
23:13 * Schism is missing precisely one (1) piece of heart.
23:14 <Schism> It's in Misery Mire, isn't it.
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23:18 * Ali hides it on King Zora
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23:18 <Schism> No, Zora had 50 rupees. I paid him 500 for that privilege.
23:19 <Ali> Better than a single arrow
23:19 * Ali gwump on Schism
23:19 <Schism> I've had a single rupee from him before.
23:20 <Ali> Grats you found a greg
23:21 <Schism> 213/216 collection rate.
23:21 <Schism> Not bad for a basic shuffle. No entrance shuffle this time, just items.
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23:23 <Schism> Oh! I don't think I did the Mimic Cave. That would explain it.
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23:24 <LibrarianofHope> i need to enter my entry for eavy metal
23:24 <LibrarianofHope> my brother is going to cost me the chance
23:25 <LibrarianofHope> taking too long
23:25 <LibrarianofHope> with the pictures
23:28 * LibrarianofHope plops
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