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02:00 <Schism> gluh.
02:23 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Nightly Discussion #2533 [ https://tinyurl.com/ygtx6l8s ]
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02:27 * Filly_Nightmares giggle because she is play wif Ali!
02:28 <Filly_Nightmares> https://i.imgur.com/T2RsYjH.jpg
02:28 * Ali boops Filly_Nightmares as unicorn doesn't play that game
02:28 <Filly_Nightmares> o7o
02:28 * Filly_Nightmares gnaw on Ali tummy
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03:12 * Filly_Nightmares kneads Ali face
03:12 * Filly_Nightmares eeeeee
03:12 * Ali squeaks
03:13 * Filly_Nightmares eee and butts her floof head against Ali tummy
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04:26 * Schism flumps next to Surry.
04:26 * Schism also offers the Changeling_Nightmares some chocolate covered mango.
04:29 * Ali flumps on Schism
04:32 * PinkieShy hops into the room
04:32 * PinkieShy hops over to Ali
04:32 * Ali squeaks at the PinkieShy
04:33 * PinkieShy tosses a ball in the air in the room and a portal to another dimension opens
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04:33 * Filly_Nightmares sneezies at Schism
04:33 * Filly_Nightmares pants at and melts from da heat
04:34 * Schism considers, then makes it choklit mango ice cream!
04:37 * Filly_Nightmares nom nom nom nom nom non mo nom nom nom nom ice cream and choklit and mango and Schism
04:37 * PinkieShy hands Filly_Nightmares a chocolate fountain with a huge bowl of strawberries
04:38 * Filly_Nightmares pants at PinkieShy!
04:55 <Finwe> Good morning, my perissodactyls of minute stature.
04:55 <Finwe> Mlles Ali, Filly_Nightmares and Schism; Messrs AppleDash, Cepheid, Lumindia and PinkieShy.
04:55 * Finwe doffs his hat.
04:56 <Schism> rAdm. Finwe.
04:56 * Schism doffs her crispbread with melted brie.
04:56 <Finwe> Lt Pony|70306.
04:56 <Finwe> o7
04:57 <Pony|70306> o7
05:00 * Cepheid awakens.
05:01 * Finwe ushers some geese to nom on Ali's tail.
05:01 * Filly_Nightmares noms Schism bread andthe climmbs onto Finwe head
05:02 * Ali baps Finwe
05:02 <Schism> Ali: Hey, there's a thought. Feed those geese a bunch of bread.
05:02 * PinkieShy teleports some wild turkeys to come nom on Ali's ears
05:03 <Ali> Schism, not supposed to feed them, not like they're a problem anymore
05:03 * Filly_Nightmares nom nom nom nom Ali bread
05:04 * Ali facepalms at the latest Biden guffaw.
05:04 <Schism> Ali: Oh, you mistake me. Feeding bread to geese is harmful for them. <.<
05:04 <Ali> Well like I said they're gone
05:04 <Ali> Something got to their nest and busted up all the eggs. Nest is abandoned
05:05 <Cepheid> Betting it was a neighbour.
05:06 <Schism> Sounds like a good Samaritan to me.
05:06 <Cepheid> Not so sure. They may be a nuisance at best, but they are still endangered.
05:07 <Ali> Well it was broad daylight
05:07 <Ali> And there was a groundscrew out working around the pond
05:10 <Finwe> How does a groundscrew work?
05:11 <Finwe> Or I actually know, it's screwed into the ground.
05:11 <Finwe> in order to keep thigs put
05:11 * Ali baps Finwe again
05:12 <Finwe> https://groundscrews.shop/
05:12 * Ali sighs and flops off
05:12 <Finwe> YOu can actually lay the foundations of a house using groundsrews.
05:12 <Finwe> *groundscrews
05:13 <Cepheid> Finwe.
05:14 <Cepheid> She meant grounds crew. You knew this, I knew this, so why are you doing this?
05:15 * Filly_Nightmares sit on Cepheid
05:16 <Finwe> Umm, English isn't actually my mother tongue, so it's not necessarily always so.
05:16 <Finwe> I thought you knew this, but let me remind you.
05:16 <Cepheid> Yes, yes. Sorry.
05:17 <Finwe> I've never heard of grounds crews, but I've heard of ground screws.
05:17 * Filly_Nightmares lickies Finwe tummy
05:18 <Cepheid> Interestingly likewise, I know what a grounds crew is, but I've never heard of a ground screw before.
05:18 <Finwe> It seems to be an American thing, anyways.
05:18 <Cepheid> Grounds crew are basically just people who come by and maintain the local region's grass and stuff. Landscapers by another name.
05:21 <Cepheid> Chances are good they destroyed the nest so they could do their job. Though, with no video or photographic evidence, there is no way to confirm. Blame will likely be left on whoever owned the land the nest was resting on.
05:22 <Cepheid> Hum. My eternal grogginess is probably due to discontinuing the Vyvanse. Can't imagine discontinuing an amphetamine is easy to do. o3o;
05:23 <Finwe> The British usually refer to the people working in park maintenance as groundsmen.
05:23 * Filly_Nightmares climbs onto Finwe head
05:24 * Finwe ruffles the Filly_Nightmares.
05:25 * Filly_Nightmares purrr and flap flappies against Finwe head!
05:32 * Cepheid yawns, gets up and goes to play a video game.
05:33 <Cepheid> Need to stay awake, so..
05:44 <Cepheid> Right now, my focus should be on enduring the medication situation as best I can, rather than working towards some other concrete goal.
05:53 <Cepheid> https://i.imgur.com/vsVTk3Y.jpg I don't know why, but I have the worlds most gay jetpack in this expedition.
06:08 <Finwe> “This was one of those points where the Trousers of Time bifurcated themselves, and if you weren’t careful you’d go down the wrong leg”
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06:37 <Sunrise_Flare> hi
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06:40 <Sunrise_Flare> I don't know what just happened
06:40 <Sunrise_Flare> it exploded
06:41 * Ali shrugs and noms on Sunrise_Flare lots
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06:58 * Cepheid gets back to Monster Huntan. Works on the Kirin. o3o
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07:08 <Cepheid> Man what is this thing made of? Orichalcum? I keep bouncing despite blue sharpness.
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07:09 <ConfusionRift> Hello everypony.
07:09 <Cepheid> Hey Rifty.
07:09 * ConfusionRift waves.
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07:10 <Cepheid> Hmm. Need an electro sac. Khezu Huntin' time.
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07:11 * Cepheid goes on a hunt-a-thon to murder 10 khezu.
07:13 <Cepheid> Arctic Ridge, so... *Cold Res talisman*
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07:23 <Cepheid> So long as I manage at least one Khezu within 5 minutes, I'll be able to kill all 10. Might as well, since I could use their pale extracts as well.
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07:24 <Sunrise_Flare> a
07:28 * Cepheid drags ConfusionRift along as a source of music for the battles.
07:29 * ConfusionRift finds it funny, since he's been listening to music for a while. :P
07:29 <ConfusionRift> Nothing huntin' worthy though.
07:29 <Cepheid> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_6ZcOo6pnk This is Khezu's BGM.
07:29 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.
07:29 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Bevor Sie zu YouTube weitergehen
07:30 <ConfusionRift> Man, I'm glad they decided to remaster it from MH:FU. So nostalgic. :P
07:30 <Cepheid> Given the way it worked back then, I suspect it was a bug more than something intentional.
07:31 <ConfusionRift> It was intentional, to my understanding.
07:31 <Cepheid> Because at the time, battling a Khezu didn't apply the eye status, so among other things, no music outside of the ambient stuff played, and you couldn't superman dodge or anything of the sort.
07:32 <Cepheid> Well, I mean, supposedly the best way to verify it would be to extract all the music from the game.
07:32 <Cepheid> If there's no songs unaccounted for, then Khezu was meant to have no theme. It was just implemented in a haphazard manner.
07:34 <ConfusionRift> See, the thing is that it was already there like that in Freedom 2. With Freedom Unite being an expansion with bug fixes and the such, it would make sense for them to fix it in that version, but they didn't.
07:35 <ConfusionRift> Also, I'm pretty sure the eye status works as a flag for the music.
07:36 <Cepheid> Yeah, the eye flag is what determines whether the music plays or not. But as far as I know, back then, the effect wasn't applied for Khezu for reasons unknown.
07:36 <ConfusionRift> Eeerm... she's blind?
07:37 <Cepheid> Ah, right.
07:37 <Cepheid> I forgot about that detail.
07:37 <Cepheid> I mean, they could still have used it as a way of saying "detected" because Khezu have good sense of smell, do they not?
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07:37 <ConfusionRift> Remember, despite Capcom's crud with many games, they can be rather smart with some details. :P
07:38 <ConfusionRift> Yep. Hence the sniffing afterwards.
07:38 <Cepheid> Prolly also why they changed it in later games.
07:38 <Cepheid> Rather than indicate "spotted" it just means "detected" now.
07:38 <ConfusionRift> Likely.
07:38 <Cepheid> But they didn't change the icon to reflect that due to it's ubiquitous, understood nature.
07:42 <Cepheid> Five dead in 23 minutes.
07:42 <Cepheid> Gonna be cutting it close.
07:43 <AppleDash> pony
07:45 <ConfusionRift> ponyyyyyyyy
07:48 <Cepheid> Fortunately, once I kill two, even if I run out of time, it's not quest failure.
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07:52 <Cepheid> #7...
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07:55 <Cepheid> #8
07:55 <Cepheid> The rewards screen is gonna be ridiculous.
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07:58 <Cepheid> #9
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07:59 <Cepheid> Actually got more materials than I needed out of it, at this point, but..
07:59 <Cepheid> Eh.
07:59 <Cepheid> All the pale extracts. ALL OF THEM.
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08:03 <Cepheid> Aaaand that's 10.
08:03 <Cepheid> 7 Electro Sacs, 8 Pale Extracts. I only needed 1 Electro Sac.
08:05 <Cepheid> Strangely none of them were gold crowns.
08:06 <Cepheid> Hmm. Kirin Thundertail and Kirin Azure Horns this time. Given I have zero of either, I'm going to make the assumption that they are high rank materials.
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08:07 <Cepheid> First though, need to start prepping some food.
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08:14 * Cepheid really wants to go play Rise instead. o3o
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08:15 * Filly_Nightmares butts her head against Cepheid belly floof
08:17 * Filly_Nightmares gnaw on Sunrise_Flare tail
08:18 <Sunrise_Flare> ah!
08:20 <Cepheid> Accursed jolts are back. Best ignore them.
08:28 * Golden flops.
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08:28 * ConfusionRift receives a text. "Apparently, R-Type version 1.04 is live. Which means Ragnarok and Ragnarok II should be in the roster. ...okay then." Deletes the text and continues watching videos.
08:29 <ConfusionRift> Oh, and that memory problem SHOULD be fixed as well.
08:31 * Cepheid saves and turns Switch off for time being. Jolts are getting really bad. Impossible to ignoooooore
08:32 <ConfusionRift> Yeah, maybe it's a good idea to give it a break.
08:34 * Filly_Nightmares eeeeee and suckles on Sunrise_Flare floof
08:34 * Sunrise_Flare gives Filly_Nightmares a pet
08:34 <Cepheid> I wonder if there's anything I can take to reduce the symptoms.
08:34 <Cepheid> Besides the medication I've since discontinued taking.
08:40 * Filly_Nightmares suckles on Sunrise_Flare hoof!
08:41 <Cepheid> With regards to vyvanse, that was an amphetamine, and thus a stimulant.
08:41 * Sunrise_Flare isn't sure there's many more places of ehr to suck!
08:41 <Cepheid> Therefore, stimulants might be sufficient to ward off it's effects, such as a coffee.
08:41 <Cepheid> Cymbalta meanwhile is an anti-depressant. And a chemical balancer. As a result, there's nooooot a whole lot I can do with it.
08:46 <ConfusionRift> I really don't know, sorry.
08:46 <Cepheid> I'll survive.
08:47 <Cepheid> I'll whine about it a lot though. o3o
08:47 * Cepheid noms some crackers with her whine. o3o *Munch Munch*
08:47 <ConfusionRift> Understandable. Had to leave those cold turkey.
08:47 <Cepheid> Hum. There's an event quest for Rise which offers parts to create a pair of... glasses. o3o
08:48 <ConfusionRift> Of course. :P
08:48 <Cepheid> Target is...
08:49 <Cepheid> Apex Arzuros.
08:49 <Golden> Hm
08:53 <Cepheid> Hum, one day and 5 hours until reveal. o3o
08:54 * Cepheid steals Schism's stock of Monster Energy drinks.
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09:06 * Cepheid flops.
09:13 <Cepheid> So, if I want to stay awake, and not spend my day laying in bed reading because of jolting stuff, then perhaps I need a different kind of game. Something slower-paced so my brain doesn't freak out. Hmm.
09:14 <ConfusionRift> Maybe a platformer? Or a casual building game? (shrugs)
09:16 <Cepheid> Minecraft sounds like a good idea. Minus the creepers. And maybe if I disable the parasitic monsters mod, because gods, they're creepy, hard to kill, and hurt worse than a creeper.
09:16 <Cepheid> Alternatively..
09:16 <Cepheid> Disgaea 4.
09:22 <Cepheid> https://i.imgur.com/w3yM3hl.mp4 I feel this is the best version of this I've seen, now.
09:23 <Cepheid> Noise warning.
09:23 <ConfusionRift> Haaaah, I like this version. Also, pfffft noise alert. :P
09:24 <Cepheid> :P
09:25 * ConfusionRift was expecting an explosion in the end.
09:25 <Cepheid> Hum, Minecraft it is. But the question is, do I want to add any automation in?
09:28 <Cepheid> Hum. Let's keep it simple. Use the latest version of the game, but add minimap and world map mod in, that's it.
09:30 * Ali sends the whatevers they are that attack you if you haven't slept in days
09:31 <ConfusionRift> Ah yes, the... the... those. Those things! Yes! Eeerm... yeah.
09:32 * ConfusionRift doesn't remember either.
09:32 <Cepheid> I gather those are new to more recent versions of Minecraft?
09:32 <Cepheid> Oh, and Just Enough Items to help with crafting stuff. o3o
09:33 <Ali> I really haven't done much with MC since like uhhhhh lord.
09:33 <ConfusionRift> Phantoms! Those things!
09:33 <Ali> I know most of my MC time was before Microsoft took over
09:33 <Ali> And FTB was the big launcher
09:34 <Cepheid> Heh.
09:34 <Cepheid> Yeah, I'm using MultiMC these days.
09:34 <ConfusionRift> They were added in 1.13, and show up after not sleeping for 3+ days.
09:34 <Ali> Or for those that didn't suffer enough
09:34 <Ali> Gregtech
09:34 <ConfusionRift> Urgh... not that mess.
09:35 <Ali> I see someone also remembers the pain of Gregtech
09:35 <Cepheid> Let's see what ridiculous worldgen I get this time.
09:35 <ConfusionRift> "Let's make something simple as making necessary tools into an absolute nightmare."
09:35 <Cepheid> Reasonable location. Forest of some sort.
09:35 * Ali puts Cepheid in a village....... a single hut that's 120 blocks above the rest
09:36 <ConfusionRift> There was a worldgen with a village that seemed to collide with a river generation, so it was built like it was floating in the middle of a river.
09:38 <Cepheid> I once genned a map(Last week in fact) that had an underwater ruins visible from the starting point.
09:39 * ConfusionRift also remembers back when world generation began to break after walking forward for a few chunks.
09:40 * ConfusionRift pokes Ali with Tekkit, since there's where the mod phase started for him.
09:40 <Ali> Ah yes Tekkit
09:41 * ConfusionRift chuckles. Was reminded of a certain group of youtubers who had some... mishaps with that pack.
09:43 <ConfusionRift> Man, this takes me back... and that moon crash landing.
09:44 <ConfusionRift> But that was another modpack.
09:45 <ConfusionRift> IN any case, burned a lot of time playing Tekkit... well, sorta. Mostly Technic pack, the sorta similar single player version.
09:47 <Cepheid> Hum.
09:47 <Cepheid> Looks like south of me, there's an underground structure of note to look into.
09:55 <Cepheid> Mineshaft with ravine. And it's actually to the east. Rotating map confused me.
09:55 <Cepheid> ... West.
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09:57 * Cepheid disables pause on focus. This can only result in good things.
10:07 <Cepheid> 26 iron ore. Should be enough I think, to get that basic armor set and then dive deeper.
10:10 <Cepheid> Whelp, I died to bullcrap.
10:10 <ConfusionRift> Thaaaaat's Minecraft! :P
10:11 * ConfusionRift gives up, and decides to give that shmup game a chance... for now.
10:13 <ConfusionRift> ...
10:13 <ConfusionRift> They removed Ragnarok.
10:15 <ConfusionRift> Either they removed that line of ships, or it was moved.
10:16 <Cepheid> Probably moved.
10:16 <ConfusionRift> It was right after Strike Bomber, and that line isn't there anymore.
10:17 <ConfusionRift> No, it was removed.
10:18 <ConfusionRift> The Image Fight line of ships were also pending, and had an "in development" placeholder. Just like the Ragnarok line, it's gone.
10:18 <Cepheid> Interesting.
10:19 <ConfusionRift> So... here I hope it's just PENDING. If they were just removed... I'm gonna be very upset.
10:19 <ConfusionRift> Because they removed the better and cooler ships of the series.
10:21 <Cepheid> Likely they were removed as a way to mitigate the memory bug, possibly. So they'll likely return once that's properly fixed.
10:23 <ConfusionRift> They weren't even in the game yet. There were placeholders for the line continuations. Unless placeholders were part of the issue... but that makes me think they removed the placeholders for the sake of making more space, rather than fixing the memory problem.
10:25 <ConfusionRift> You know, let me play for a bit. If the memory issue pops, then this was a bandaid for the memory problem.
10:32 * ConfusionRift goes through the decals to make a custom ship, to test the memory problem. Sees a new R-Type III Ragnarok decal. "You... F***ING tease!"
10:33 <Cepheid> Heh.
10:33 <Cepheid> I get the impression that in it's unfinished state, a lot of stuff was left unlocked and available when it wasn't meant to be.
10:35 <ConfusionRift> Yep! Like that R-Type Delta stage that only had geometry, no textures, and unfinished stuff. The same place I got softlock after not being able to save.
10:35 * Cepheid sits in a dark, damp hole too far away from home to escape the darkness.
10:35 <ConfusionRift> The one thing that pushed me to archive the game.
10:44 <ConfusionRift> So far so good...
10:52 <Finwe> Lt Cdr ConfusionRift.
10:52 <Finwe> o7
10:54 <ConfusionRift> RAdm. Finwe. (salutes)
10:54 * Cepheid needs a bucket of water.
11:00 <ConfusionRift> You know what? Can I get Kiwi Berry? Can I get flying space tank?
11:01 <ConfusionRift> I still find it being the stupidest, yest funniest idea.
11:01 <ConfusionRift> *yet
11:03 <ConfusionRift> Yes, yes I can. :P
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11:12 <Finwe> Miss Angeline.
11:12 * Finwe doffs his hat.
11:13 * Filly_Nightmares nom nom nom Finwe
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11:15 * Filly_Nightmares lickies her own nosie!
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11:24 <Finwe> Mr RazorSharpFang.
11:24 * Finwe doffs his hat.
11:24 <RazorSharpFang> Hey heys.
11:25 <RazorSharpFang> Finwe, is Triangle-Triangle area-intersection detection considered an easy math problem? Two triangles, do they share any area?
11:27 <Finwe> I guess so.
11:27 <Finwe> It reduces to finding out whether any of the sides intersect.
11:28 <RazorSharpFang> I consider one triangle inside another to be an intersection.
11:28 <RazorSharpFang> This is an area intersection.
11:29 <Finwe> Indeed. I thought of a realistic case where the triangles were apart in the beginning.
11:30 <Finwe> And with continuous rigid-body movements.
11:33 <Finwe> RazorSharpFang: In how many dimensions?
11:34 <RazorSharpFang> Two dimensions, so it's simpler.
11:37 <Finwe> https://web.stanford.edu/class/cs277/resources/papers/Moller1997b.pdf
11:37 <Finwe> I guess that covers both two and three dimensions.
11:39 <RazorSharpFang> I wasn't expecting a full PDF paper.
11:40 <Cepheid> Triangle-triangle 2D is straightforward. Check if any of the edges intersect, then check if any of the points of one triangle lies within the other triangle.
11:40 <Cepheid> Simplest way to go about it, and it works.
11:41 <Cepheid> If you want the point(s) of intersection, that's a different story.
11:41 <Finwe> Augh.
11:41 * Finwe bleeds.
11:41 <RazorSharpFang> I care not for the points. I want a boolean yay or nay.
11:42 <Cepheid> Then the simplest approach is above. Test if the edges of triangle A intersect the edges of triangle B. If they do, then there's a collision. If not, check to see if the points of triangle A lie inside of triangle B. If they do, then there's a collision, as if you got this far, then triangle A lies entirely inside triangle B.
11:43 <Cepheid> Can also use the separating axis theorem, I think.
11:43 <Cepheid> That thing's reliable for a lot of 2D tests.
11:43 <Finwe> RazorSharpFang: It's covered just before 2.1.
11:44 <Finwe> If the triangles are co-planar, they are projected onto the axis-aligned planewhere the areas of the triangles are maximized. Then a simple two-dimensionaltriangle-triangle overlap test is performed. First, test all closed edges ofT1for inter-section with the edges ofT2. If any intersection is found, then the triangles intersect.
11:44 <RazorSharpFang> Aha
11:44 <Finwe> Otherwise, we must test ifT1is totally contained inT2or vice versa. This can bedone by performing a point-in-triangle test [Haines94] for one vertex ofT1againstT2and vice versa.
11:44 <Finwe> Then you just fetch the paper Haines94 and proceed from there.
11:45 <Cepheid> If only it were that easy. Too many papers behind paywalls these days.
11:45 <Finwe> That is, Eric Haines, "Point in Polygon Strategies".
11:46 <Finwe> http://erich.realtimerendering.com/ptinpoly/
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11:46 <Cepheid> There's a- Yeah, that's one.
11:46 <Cepheid> For points in triangles, there's an easier approach involving projection of vectors.
11:48 <Finwe> I started wondering if I'd spilled ketchup on the floor, but, no, it's blood.
11:50 <RazorSharpFang> Should I be concerned?
11:50 <Cepheid> You take a triangle's 3 points, A, B, and C. You pick one arbitrarily as an origin point, say A. You then project your point P that you're testing onto AB, and AC. And then... Bah, I thought I had this memorized. Let me see if I can bring up the article.
11:51 <Cepheid> https://blackpawn.com/texts/pointinpoly/ Alas, the example of this in use is no longer available, being flash-based and all, but the barycentric technique is what I was working towards.
11:53 <Cepheid> You can just use the simpler-to-implement approach at the top though. Gets the job done.
11:59 <RazorSharpFang> What about splitting up a concave polygon into a set of triangles?
11:59 <Cepheid> There's a few approaches. Easiest is Ear Clipping.
12:00 <Cepheid> But it's got O(n^2) runtime.
12:01 <Cepheid> If you want better, you'll want to look triangulation algorithms. Most frequently cited is Delauney triangulation. I can't help you with that, because I don't know how to do it.
12:04 <Cepheid> https://www.geometrictools.com/Documentation/TriangulationByEarClipping.pdf
12:06 <Cepheid> That said, I've come to realize that using arbitrary polygons for collision checks is frustrating and fraught with bugs. Better to approximate the shape using simpler shapes. So triangles, squares, circles.
12:07 <Finwe> The good old hit box from the early computer games.
12:07 <Cepheid> Granted, there certain are benefits to the triangulation approach, so long as you place restrictions on the polygon, such as no-self-intersections, no holes, etc.
12:07 <Finwe> You have the player sprite, and inside it a square box that's used in collision detection.
12:11 <RazorSharpFang> Cepheid, this is for like, a boundary that traces a real-world boundary, defined by surveyers.
12:15 <Cepheid> Oh.,
12:15 <Cepheid> So you need triangulation then.
12:16 <RazorSharpFang> I wonder if the Geometry namespace in Sql Server can do this for me.
12:17 <Cepheid> No clue.
12:17 * ConfusionRift sighs. "I think the battery on my phone is dying out."
12:18 <ConfusionRift> Oh well, will worry later. Time for sleepies!
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12:19 <Cepheid> 7 hours. Longest I've felt "alert" in the last few days.
12:20 <Cepheid> Jolts don't seem as bad today either. Still there and when they're active, they hit hard, but..
12:21 <RazorSharpFang> I have `STContains` which returns 1 if it's entirely enveloped...
12:26 <RazorSharpFang> And I have `STIntersects` which returns 1 if there's an intersection.
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12:31 <Cepheid> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Line%E2%80%93line_intersection#Given_two_points_on_each_line_segment Do the math shown, either for t or u. If t >= 0.0 && t <= 1.0, then there's an intersection, otherwise there isn't. I don't know what happens if the lines are parallel right on top of one another, though. Anyways..
12:32 <Cepheid> After implementing that, simply iterate over all the edges in polygon P1, and check to see if those edges intersect with any of the edges in P2. If any edges intersect, stop, and return indicator that there's an intersection.
12:32 <Cepheid> If there are no intersections, you then continue to checking each vertex/point of P1, to see if it lies within P2. If any vertex/point of P1 lies within P2, there is an intersection.
12:33 <Cepheid> There's tests to determine if a point lies within a polygon.
12:33 <RazorSharpFang> Perhaps Sql Server has already implemented all of that.
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12:34 <Cepheid> Adding a lot of overhead, though.
12:34 <RazorSharpFang> `import SqlServer;` done
12:34 <Cepheid> Not what I meant.
12:35 <Cepheid> You add a dependency on SqlServer, and then any overhead involved in interacting with SqlServer to perform various tasks, which are designed for databases, not for frequent application use.
12:35 <Cepheid> I don't know what the situation is that you're implementing it in, but if performance is a big factor, then using SqlServer may be a poor idea.
12:36 <RazorSharpFang> It's a check that goes on in the background.
12:37 <Cepheid> How frequently?
12:37 <RazorSharpFang> That's a good question. I don't know how often we run that check.
12:42 <Cepheid> Right, I need to lay down.
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13:18 * Schism calls doctor's office. 'You are currently number 13.' She foos. Well, it's not like it was open yesterday...
13:32 <Schism> Ah, June 9th is my next appointment. Well, I thought it was in a while, just best to be sure.
13:37 <Schism> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/578461825255866368/846700861568319498/unknown.png
13:46 * Schism should go out while it's still nice enough to do so.
13:51 <Schism> This is now my headcanon. https://twitter.com/CenturiiC/status/1397181431714045955
14:07 <Cepheid> Hum. One more day to go.
14:07 <RazorSharpFang> I got the Quadtree to work for hit detection pretty well. I'm quite happy with it.
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15:08 * Schism reads today's SMBC. "Ouch."
15:09 <LibrarianofHope> wuts that?
15:09 <Schism> https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/lapdog
15:12 <LibrarianofHope> meh, unecessary existential dread
15:12 <LibrarianofHope> we are not dogs, not lap dogs
15:12 <LibrarianofHope> we are human
15:12 <RazorSharpFang> Maybe some of us.
15:13 <LibrarianofHope> you gotta notice that a lot of the "humanity is doomed " stuff is based on the vocal karen types minority and politicians
15:13 <LibrarianofHope> which get too much attention
15:13 <RazorSharpFang> Contrary to popular opinion, things are getting better overall.
15:13 <RazorSharpFang> I have hope for the future.
15:13 <Schism> I do know this! We do move forward.
15:14 <LibrarianofHope> i live up to my name owo
15:14 <RazorSharpFang> By being a Librarian.
15:14 <LibrarianofHope> of Hope
15:14 * LibrarianofHope bonks razor with overdue fines
15:14 <RazorSharpFang> The Librarian is the most important part.
15:14 <RazorSharpFang> Implying I ever borrow books.
15:15 <RazorSharpFang> I just read in the library.
15:15 <LibrarianofHope> you have your library card?
15:15 <RazorSharpFang> No, and one is not required to read books IN the library.
15:16 <LibrarianofHope> we dont have many libraries around me
15:16 <LibrarianofHope> mine doesnt count , cuase is mine
15:17 <LibrarianofHope> and the character of the Librarian of Hope in my novel has that name cuase it was his favorite job in his previous life
15:17 <RazorSharpFang> Does that imply that he died?
15:17 <LibrarianofHope> nope
15:19 <RazorSharpFang> He had a previous life without dying?
15:19 <LibrarianofHope> he is alive, his wife died of normal old age, he is just very long lived, so he kinda avandoned his old life and made the Library of Hope to help after he saw his descendants be happy
15:19 <LibrarianofHope> yes
15:20 <RazorSharpFang> Are you sure you know what previous life means?
15:20 <LibrarianofHope> yes
15:20 <LibrarianofHope> it does works as im using it
15:20 <RazorSharpFang> I'm going to press X to doubt on that one.
15:20 <LibrarianofHope> its a figure of speech
15:20 <Schism> Not everything has to be isekai and reincarnation. o3o
15:21 <LibrarianofHope> it helps that the long life its a side effect of being adopted by a couple of discord types
15:21 <RazorSharpFang> That is what is generally meant by "in my previous life"
15:21 * Schism has a previous life. Well, sort of. Ongoing-slash-past.
15:22 <LibrarianofHope> she gets it
15:22 <RazorSharpFang> If someone says "In my previous life I was a blacksmith" that's interpreted to mean before they were alive.
15:23 <LibrarianofHope> when i actually write down that bit ill make it clearer
15:23 <LibrarianofHope> but as a general explanation you got the idea
15:24 <RazorSharpFang> I'm still of the opinion that the clearest way would be "I used to be a blacksmith before... *gestures to missing arm*"
15:25 <Schism> "Then I took an arrow to the knee."
15:25 <RazorSharpFang> Or whatever equivalent you've got in mind for the particularities of the scenario at hand.
15:25 <LibrarianofHope> owo
15:25 <LibrarianofHope> and thats why writing is tricky
15:26 <LibrarianofHope> im also using the "doenst use his true name any more " as an implied trope
15:26 <LibrarianofHope> but he is happy to tell his actual name if you ask
15:27 <RazorSharpFang> Are you sure you want to use "true" for a name they choose to not recognise?
15:27 <LibrarianofHope> they do recognize it
15:27 <LibrarianofHope> the true name is Joseph Whitemmon
15:27 <LibrarianofHope> whitemoon
15:27 <RazorSharpFang> I mean, having one name designated as true implies the other is not true?
15:28 <LibrarianofHope> imagine you live enough to need to have many names
15:28 <LibrarianofHope> in that case i would call the name connected to my happiest time my true name
15:28 <RazorSharpFang> Then why designate any of these as true?
15:29 <RazorSharpFang> That implies that you're expecting to never be as happy ever again.
15:29 <LibrarianofHope> nope, thats a you idea
15:30 <RazorSharpFang> Well, you can make the assertion that all meaning is interpreted.
15:30 <LibrarianofHope> thtas what im going fir}}or
15:30 <RazorSharpFang> If that's your intent, then great - it's working perfectly.
15:30 <LibrarianofHope> owo
15:30 <RazorSharpFang> That's exactly what you want.
15:32 <LibrarianofHope> the next intersting bit im working on is defininf a reality warper a la discord in an intersting way
15:32 <LibrarianofHope> which is hard
15:32 <LibrarianofHope> been at it for a decade
15:32 <LibrarianofHope> no exageration there
15:32 <RazorSharpFang> As in defining someone's character?
15:33 <LibrarianofHope> yes
15:33 <LibrarianofHope> try doing this
15:33 <LibrarianofHope> insane reality warping goddesses
15:33 <LibrarianofHope> two of them
15:33 <LibrarianofHope> make them work on a hisgtiry without rendering plot pointless
15:33 <RazorSharpFang> And they also have to be different right? They can't just be carbon copies?
15:34 <LibrarianofHope> nope
15:34 <LibrarianofHope> neihter of discord or each other
15:34 <LibrarianofHope> i didnt even based them off discord, i began before i ever saw mlp
15:34 <RazorSharpFang> I like to use the Five Factor personality model to help me write characters.
15:35 <LibrarianofHope> i dont think i heard of it
15:36 <RazorSharpFang> It's got 5 axes. Have you heard of Introversion - Extroversion? That's one of the axis.
15:36 <LibrarianofHope> problem there is
15:36 <RazorSharpFang> Because it's five dimensional, there's plenty of space to work with in the personality realm.
15:36 <LibrarianofHope> how do you render insanity
15:37 <LibrarianofHope> without being insensive
15:37 <LibrarianofHope> waht is insanity anyway?
15:37 <RazorSharpFang> You could make them hyper neurotic, and hyper agreeable.
15:37 <LibrarianofHope> doesnt woek, that downright ofensive at a point
15:38 <LibrarianofHope> im asking you things i already asked myself to explain the problem
15:38 <RazorSharpFang> ? People like that exist. Do they not deserve representation?
15:38 <LibrarianofHope> i dont have the skill to do it
15:38 <RazorSharpFang> I know people who've needed assertiveness training because they're too agreeable.
15:38 <LibrarianofHope> the solution i came too is this
15:39 <LibrarianofHope> beings that exisgt in a system that is actively rejecting them
15:39 <LibrarianofHope> they were nbot supposed to be there, so reality is actively oushing back
15:40 <LibrarianofHope> the insanity bit is that they dont understand the world around them
15:40 <LibrarianofHope> its not an ilness, its just that they were not supposed to be there
15:40 <LibrarianofHope> thtas the way to render insanity without it being an ilness
15:41 <LibrarianofHope> that took a while to make owo
15:41 <RazorSharpFang> I'm not sure we're talking about the same thing.
15:42 <LibrarianofHope> what you are saying is that people with mental ilness need representation in histories
15:42 <LibrarianofHope> which they di
15:42 <LibrarianofHope> however i nowhere near skilled enough to do it right
15:42 <RazorSharpFang> Histories? Are you doing a historical fiction?
15:42 <LibrarianofHope> my history
15:43 <LibrarianofHope> im thinking fast , might miss grammar
15:43 <RazorSharpFang> Is it an alternate history, or is it the same history?
15:43 <LibrarianofHope> same tale
15:43 <LibrarianofHope> same franchise
15:43 <RazorSharpFang> Franchise? Is this referencing a separate work?
15:44 <LibrarianofHope> i intended to write a franchise
15:44 <LibrarianofHope> right now there is only one book, there will be more
15:44 <RazorSharpFang> Okay, I'm asking whether or not you're including real-world history and setting the story on earth as we know it.
15:44 <LibrarianofHope> nope
15:44 <LibrarianofHope> all my creation
15:45 <RazorSharpFang> Then you should have said "No" when I asked "Are you doing a historical fiction" because that's what historical-fiction means.
15:45 <RazorSharpFang> Your response confused me.
15:45 <LibrarianofHope> yeah that happens when i try to explain Kalinka and Malinka
15:46 <LibrarianofHope> names of my reality warping goddesses
15:46 <LibrarianofHope> creating a reality warper that doesnt render the plot pointless, and still have a serious story is oncredibly hard
15:47 <RazorSharpFang> Well, why not bake into the world constraints that make it difficult to get big things done?
15:48 <LibrarianofHope> i did that bit already
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15:48 <Schism> Mmm. Delicious world donut.
15:48 <LibrarianofHope> whoever made discord work is a genius really
15:49 <RazorSharpFang> What rules have you baked into the world already?
15:49 <LibrarianofHope> Kalinka and Malinka are a bazooka to a world of fly level problems , in comparasion terms
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15:50 <RazorSharpFang> Course vs fine eh?
15:50 <LibrarianofHope> the Librarian of Hope is their adoptive son , and they only realy listen to him
15:50 <LibrarianofHope> out of love, not out of obliagtion
15:51 <LibrarianofHope> he could in theory tell them to go kill mosnters and stuff
15:51 <LibrarianofHope> but they have no self control or sense of subtelty
15:51 <LibrarianofHope> they would nuke the area without thinking
15:51 <LibrarianofHope> bazzoka to kill a fly
15:54 <LibrarianofHope> plus other stuff im currently adding
15:55 <RazorSharpFang> Any idea what's your main theming or conflicts?
15:55 <LibrarianofHope> and im giving myslef a headache
15:55 <LibrarianofHope> i know them, but i have a hard time explaining them just yet
15:56 <RazorSharpFang> I'm sure you'll get it right in your own time.
15:56 <LibrarianofHope> thtas why its taken me so much time to get Kalinka and Malinka right
15:56 <LibrarianofHope> it think im close
15:57 <LibrarianofHope> im also hungry
15:57 <LibrarianofHope> need breakfast
15:57 <LibrarianofHope> see ya in a bit
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16:05 <Schism> LibrarianOfHope: https://imgur.com/a/3jny1Hu
16:09 <Schism> "A wet burrito is a burrito with sauce on it. You can't pick it up any more, but it has an evolutionary lineage going back to things that you could pick up. It's like one of those cave fish that have lost their eyes but still have the vague shape of the sockets left."
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21:14 <LibrarianofHope> i just made deep fried milky way bars
21:14 <LibrarianofHope> they taste great
21:14 <LibrarianofHope> im confused
21:16 * LibrarianofHope just made some murica food in mexico
21:17 <LibrarianofHope> it even tasted wrong, in the im sure this is extremely bad for my bad but i love it way
21:18 * LibrarianofHope flops on ali
21:26 <LibrarianofHope> ali is cute owo
21:27 <LibrarianofHope> im alone here
21:27 <LibrarianofHope> im gonna eat the cookies
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21:28 * LibrarianofHope glopms the pinkieshy
21:28 <LibrarianofHope> hiiii
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21:34 <PinkieShy> hola :D
21:34 <LibrarianofHope> wolas
21:34 <LibrarianofHope> or
21:34 <LibrarianofHope> quibole
21:35 <LibrarianofHope> you can also say
21:35 <LibrarianofHope> que pachoooo
21:35 <LibrarianofHope> que onda
21:35 <LibrarianofHope> slang lessons with Librarian owo
21:38 * Dappled chews on stuff/
21:39 * LibrarianofHope wants attention, bonks dappled for great justicd
21:39 * Dappled goes smoosh!
21:39 <LibrarianofHope> might be the extra sugar of the bar i just ate
21:39 <LibrarianofHope> sugar rush ahhhh
21:41 * Dappled releases 957 squirrels into the wild.
21:44 <Cepheid> Singlehandedly repopulating the world of squirrels.
21:45 <Dappled> If it helps, I'm done breeding squirrels. Now I can move onto more birds!
21:48 <Cepheid> Didn't sleep the best. But I feel more alert than usual.
21:54 * Ali flops over the Dappled
21:54 * Dappled hugs the Ali. Shows her the pink squirrels.
21:55 * Ali shows Dappled that her Galardex is up to over 300 now
21:56 * Dappled brushies Ali. This is good. You need that Shiny Charm. Then we can get you the Mark Charm.
21:56 * LibrarianofHope shows ali a cookie
21:56 <LibrarianofHope> this cookie
21:56 <LibrarianofHope> is cookie
21:57 <Ali> Mark Charm?
21:57 <Dappled> Isle of Armor completion makes it more likely for wild pokemon to have marks.
21:58 <Ali> Not as useful
21:58 <Ali> But what do I do about the two mythicals?
21:59 <Dappled> Two?
21:59 <Dappled> Zarude and who?
21:59 <Ali> The grass monkay
21:59 <Ali> If that's the monkey, then its the electric looking lucario
21:59 * LibrarianofHope bonks ali with a fat pikachu
22:00 * Ali bonks LibrarianofHope with yellow cheek chonkachu
22:00 * LibrarianofHope bonks dappled with a humongous chonkachu in gigantamax mode
22:01 <LibrarianofHope> his pika sounda like thunder, fits the theme really
22:04 <Dappled> Zeraora.
22:04 <Dappled> Promise to trade them back to me, and I'll let you fill in your dex.
22:05 <Ali> You don't need them, but there's no way in heck to get either of those now..
22:06 <Dappled> Well, this isn't the first time Zeraora has been released.
22:06 * LibrarianofHope trades dappled a shiny alu
22:06 * Dappled hugs.
22:07 <Dappled> Zeraora had an event in USUM as well.
22:07 <LibrarianofHope> well its more of a giving cause i got nothing , but owo
22:07 <Ali> I don't remember a Zeraora in USUM
22:08 <Ali> But again, I don't remember a lot of things since Gen 6
22:09 <Dappled> End of 2018 start of 2019 giveaway.
22:12 <Ali> Eeyup, don't have that
22:20 <Dappled> Then you might want to get Home, at least the free version cause I think a lot of the Mythicals are going to go through that in the future.
22:21 <Dappled> Though having things like Celebi and Kelbi added to regular games makes me hopeful that at least the older Mythicals are going to filter into the regular games without events.
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22:23 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Newbie Artist Training Grounds to Start in One Week! [ https://tinyurl.com/yga9o97h ]
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22:38 <Ali> Kelbi?
22:39 * Ali sits on Dappled, that's not a pokemon name she knows.
22:39 <Ali> Heck what I'm miffed about is that one pokemon that's only available in GO
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23:03 <LibrarianofHope> my doggo boi is cute
23:03 <LibrarianofHope> im taking him for walks everyday now and he is following me around more again
23:03 <LibrarianofHope> fun times
23:12 * LibrarianofHope bonks dappled
23:13 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Drawfriend Stuff (Pony Art Gallery) #3704 [ https://tinyurl.com/yeyac2f6 ]
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23:26 * Angeline pounces Dappled and Ali.
23:27 * Angeline is 1.21 petafluffs of smol.
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23:53 <PinkieShy> ugh!!!
23:53 <PinkieShy> Just made myself get sweaty for reason shouldn't concern me >_>
23:54 <PinkieShy> Trying to look under the mobile home to see if there is a leak being water pressure is so freaking low..
23:54 <PinkieShy> Couldn't see any
23:54 <PinkieShy> Which tells me might have to tell landlord to come out and see if it doesn't correct itself > _>
23:54 <PinkieShy> Knowing them they won't do anything at all.. Siding on the home came off so I had to put it back which was annoying..
23:55 <PinkieShy> I need to calm down and relax.. I feel dizzy plus being like 90 outside doesn't help\
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