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04:13 <Schism> egg.
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04:15 <Schism> Ali:
04:15 <Schism> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/865512228966891550/875230938618032168/unknown.png
04:16 * Ali puts a cute sticker on Schism
04:16 * Schism is not cute...!
04:16 <Ali> Cuter than I am by far.
04:18 <Schism> Still no, you're not...
04:18 <Ali> Of course I'm not cute!
04:18 * Ali is a very ugly pono
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04:37 <Amelia> Schism: awwwww :)
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04:50 <Schism> I am _not_ cute.
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05:08 <Ali> Schism, what about adorable :P
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06:29 <Golden> Blep
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07:18 <Amelia> :P
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07:19 <ConfusionRift> Hello everypony.
07:20 <Amelia> Hi confusionrift
07:20 <Amelia> How are you?
07:20 <ConfusionRift> Doing alright. For the first time ever... decided to make boiled eggs.
07:21 * Ali flumps over the ConfusionRift
07:21 <Ali> Megabase turned out to be a mess of a disaster
07:21 <Amelia> Sounds nice :)
07:21 <Ali> The blueprints are garbage, nothing was designed right..
07:21 <Ali> The mall didn't have FREAKING MINERS
07:22 <ConfusionRift> Do you have the link to the prints, or is it an old print?
07:22 <Ali> They're old, from .18. but that's pretty much current
07:23 <Ali> The problem is that they're large footprints
07:23 <Ali> But design is stupid
07:23 <Ali> You have a blueprint area for oil
07:23 <Ali> But the trains are designed to be 2-8s
07:23 <Ali> But the Mega Mall demands ones of 1-4
07:24 <ConfusionRift> Thing is, I have seen some prints that rely on bots, and nothing but bots. Or the materials are provided offsite.
07:24 <ConfusionRift> Hmmm.
07:24 <Ali> They're provided by train
07:24 <Ali> But nothing lines up or makes sense
07:24 <Ali> The stops don't match up to anything
07:24 <ConfusionRift> Blarg...
07:25 <Colgate> make 2 separate rail systems, connected by train conversion stations :D
07:25 <Ali> Like there was even a blueprint for mass production of gears
07:25 <Ali> But there was NOTHING that demanded them
07:25 * Ali boops Colgate with Tiamet
07:26 <Colgate> which Tiamet? :P
07:26 <Ali> The MTG card Tiamet
07:26 <ConfusionRift> Well... belts demand a lot of gears, last I checked.
07:26 <Colgate> ah, so the DnD god
07:26 <Ali> ConfusionRift, not even the mall seemed to demand them
07:26 <ConfusionRift> That makes no sense. o_0
07:26 <Ali> It on summon allows you to fetch up to 5 dragons from your deck
07:27 <Colgate> 5 colors, requires hard cast, unplayable most likely
07:27 <Ali> Colgate, Commander
07:27 <Ali> Also fully abuses Scion of Draco
07:27 <Colgate> anything is playable in commander :P
07:28 <ConfusionRift> Gears are one of the larger iron sinks. (scratches his head)
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07:28 <Ali> I dunno ConfusionRift, not even the mega science thing demanded them
07:28 <Ali> Heck, they even train in WATER
07:28 <Colgate> Ali: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UODK_KbVMPY
07:29 <Ali> Also Colgate they made Bahamut a silly human Plainswalker
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07:29 <Ali> That with seven loyalty turns into a 7/7 dragon
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07:30 <Colgate> unless something has changed, plainswalkers are rarely played for their ults unless you can use them immediately with a doubling season type of effect
07:31 <Ali> Not an ult
07:31 <Ali> Its a Gideon like effect
07:31 <Colgate> ah, indestructible too?
07:31 <Colgate> or at least flying presumably
07:31 <Ali> Yup, but its not an END OF TURN thing either
07:31 <Ali> ANd yes, flying indestructable
07:31 * ConfusionRift sees this mega mall... it's nothing but machinery on fire, materials getting flung left and right, and an engineer in fetal position right in the middle of it. 0_0;
07:32 <Ali> ConfusionRift, pretty much how I felt
07:32 <Ali> But have you heard of Scion of Draco Colgate?
07:32 <Colgate> as long as they ahve 7 or more counters, starts with 3, csots 4, hmm
07:32 <Ali> His 2nd +1 is pretty useless
07:32 <Ali> As its just a fetch for a two drop or something
07:33 <Ali> But the other can lock a creature out of attacking
07:33 <Colgate> was just looking that card up
07:33 <Colgate> just a 1/1 with a very mediocre ability
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07:34 <Ali> You basically are just protecting him for the 3 turns till he turns into the dragon
07:34 <Ali> So in standard, not really playable
07:34 <Colgate> yeah, was gonna say, doesn't seem great in std
07:34 <Ali> Terrible in standard
07:34 <Colgate> rather slow, and the ability isn't particularly game changing
07:34 <Ali> Honestly, I don't know what is going to happen with Standard with the next rotation
07:35 <Ali> The cards right now that will be left in are extremely slow
07:35 <Ali> Most of the big boy dragons are 6 drops or more
07:35 <ConfusionRift> Amelia: Just in case... they came out alright.
07:35 <Ali> Old Gnawbone is pretty stupid powerful, but its a seven drop
07:36 <Amelia> Confusionrift: okie :)
07:37 <ConfusionRift> ...maybe needed a bit more, but were almost like I wanted them... edible. :P
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07:46 <Golden> Meow
07:47 <ConfusionRift> Hallo.
07:47 <Golden> Yo
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07:53 <Amelia> 🐈
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09:01 * Schism groans, and throws an arm out of bed, followed by much of the rest of her body. Arise, Lazarus! Well, Lara, anyway.
09:02 <Schism> ConfusionRift, this should seem familiar to you. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/592354217998680066/874554479775735808/FB_IMG_1628580362951.jpg
09:03 <ConfusionRift> Pffthehehe.
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09:06 <ConfusionRift> "Chances are you can get that monster later." | But... it's right here! And it respawns, so why not? | "Here we go. You're gonna waste HOURS trying to get this one monster that's gonna end up in your PO Box doing FA, while you keep the same team for several more hours... and then cry you keep getting easy free eggs and- are you even paying attention?!" | (hwhacks the same monster for the nth time) ...oh, sorry. What was that?
09:06 <ConfusionRift> *because you
09:07 <Schism> But you want to get it legitimately.
09:08 <Schism> Like catching that first Abra instead of being handed an Alakazam as part of a trade.
09:08 * ConfusionRift finds the same egg he fought for earlier... for the 9th time, on an unoccupied nest. "I'm a fool, I attest."
09:10 <ConfusionRift> No. It's more like wasting hours going through the same patches of grass, fighting it several times, and finally capturing it. Then, you walk to another area, and every single encounter from point A to B on shallow grass is a freakin' Abra. :P
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09:11 <ConfusionRift> Hell, several of them somehow magically faints near a pokeball, and magically lands in your inventory.
09:11 * Schism catches a Missingno, somehow winds up with 43 boxes full of Abra.
09:12 <ConfusionRift> And just like that. :P
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09:16 <Schism> It's so strange looking at a really good thread now and then. Some might consider it demoralizing to see a bunch of people with 10-digit numbers after their name decrying their existence. I, however, consider it a bracing game of block-a-TERF.
09:17 <ConfusionRift> Brute Tigrex has now become my most irritating encounter. After an 15 times of trying to get it to retreat, I caught a legitimate egg. After that, I find one randomly in an empty next, and another in an everden. Oh, this is the only monster I cannot quick kill.
09:18 <Schism> A...at least you might be able to breed them for IVs?
09:18 <Schism> Sheesh, though, 15 is just too much.
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09:20 <ConfusionRift> Okay, maybe 15 is an exaggeration. (checks the logs) ...9 times. Still, each encounter takes a while. It's defenses are pretty high, but not as bad as it's freakin' attack.
09:22 <Schism> 9 times is still a bit much!
09:23 <ConfusionRift> Do you remember me losing my marbles at me failing a retreat at 55% chance? (points at the score) THIS is the epitome of bad luck.
09:23 * ConfusionRift squints.
09:24 <ConfusionRift> That thing is stronger than Black Diablos.
09:24 * Schism attempts to retreat from an enemy on Triangle Island, winds up Meteo'd and the whole party obliterated.
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09:24 <ConfusionRift> Ah, that was Gammoth's misadventure.
09:24 <ConfusionRift> A single attack wiped my whole party.
09:27 <ConfusionRift> In any case, just gonna chill, looking for collectibles to upgrade my stuffs. :P
09:27 <Schism> Gotta relax after all that. :p
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09:37 <Schism> Yanno, I love Wildbow's writing, but It Gets Worse: The Continued Series kinda gets old after a while.
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09:41 <ConfusionRift> Oh... a sleeping Monoblos. Just gonna... walk by... don't mind me.
09:43 <Schism> -*horn sounds*-
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09:44 * ConfusionRift hears an ear exploding roar. "Ah... it awakens... NOPE!" Disappears in a snap.
09:46 * ConfusionRift goes to town to turn in some quests, suddenly- "Hey, I heard of this Monoblos in the desert. Really hard fight, hunters can't do it. Can you kill it for me?" He just stares, sighs, and accepts.
09:49 * ConfusionRift is worried.
09:50 <ConfusionRift> How, after this many hours of gameplay, my monsterpedia is at 35%?!
09:50 <Schism> ConfusionRift, you heard those 'horn sounds' in a fifth, didn't you? C-G, C-G~
09:51 <ConfusionRift> I just hear the departure horn every time. :P
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09:54 <ConfusionRift> It's simple. Keep quiet, grab the egg, and run. Easy as pie! | "Yeah. Though, I need to heal and got no potions." | We can deal with that later, let's just- | "OH, I KNOW!" (takes out hunting horn) | Wait, NOOO!!!
09:55 * ConfusionRift gets carted.
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10:20 <ConfusionRift> Is it just me, or is the volcano always the most painful place in RPGs?
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10:23 <Schism> And platforms...
10:23 <Schism> Right up until I SLICED that freaking volcano in HALF. And then obliterated that dragon. <.<
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10:59 <Schism> "It was a pretty good rendition of a cat, I thought, if you'd never seen one before. Four legs, tail, pointed ears. Two eyes, pink tongue and nose. But as the old saying goes, the devil's in the details."
11:01 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Morning Discussion #2381 [ https://tinyurl.com/yfgdhpgs ]
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11:20 <Lumindia> Bird up!
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12:29 <Schism> "They call this craphole community college 'Bellhaven', gods know why. It's where the dregs end up. All the dregs..."
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12:53 <Finwe> ADragonDisconnecting would be a more apt nick. o3o
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12:54 <Finwe> Mr Cyan_Spark.
12:54 * Finwe doffs his hat.
12:54 <Cyan_Spark> The Finwe
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13:01 <Finwe> Mr uni.
13:01 * Finwe doffs his hat.
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13:11 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: My Little Pony G5 - A New Generation - Official Movie Trailer Released! [ https://tinyurl.com/yzwnhvpg ]
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17:28 <Schism> Lumindia: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/579457674635116564/875398352546697246/image0.jpg
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17:28 * Schism also hats on Ali.
17:28 * Ali squeaks and curls up into Schism
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18:28 <Schism> Random G5. https://twitter.com/SkyVixie/status/1425885353299283973
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18:33 <Ali> Well that trailer just lowered my expectations about 35%
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18:38 <Finwe> Miss Ali, Mr ADragonDisconnecgting.
18:38 * Finwe doffs his hat.
18:38 <Finwe> Miss Schism.
18:38 * Finwe redoffs his hat.
18:38 <Schism> rAdm. Finwe.
18:38 * Schism doffs her soda.
18:38 * Finwe is cooking late lunch.
18:39 <Schism> Quite late, as it's about 8 in the evening. Hopefully it's at least good food!
18:39 <Finwe> Kipper, potatoes and tomato-onion salad.
18:39 <Finwe> It's half past nine already.
18:39 * Schism looks at her clock, shakes it twice. "Hum."
18:40 <Finwe> Or twenty to ten, rather. o3o
18:42 * Ali chews on Finwe's timezones
18:43 <Finwe> 'Tis usually either GMT+2 or, like now, GMT+3.
18:43 <Ali> I prefer the eight hours ahead thing :P
18:44 <Ali> Cause I'm shit with GMT
18:44 * Schism is GMT-5! Well, -4 right now.
18:44 * Schism noms upon Ali's timezone too.
18:44 <Finwe> I've been as far west as GMT-5 and as far east as GMT+3 in standard time.
18:47 <Ali> If you want in to the US, just use the southern border, its wide open....
18:47 <Finwe> I entered the country via JFK airport.
19:01 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: The Movie Trailer is Followed Up By... Unicorn Snot! [ https://tinyurl.com/yg9ae944 ]
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19:30 <Schism> Ali: This comic still makes me giggle. Stupid Mary Sues. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E3JEAIXXMAA_ehJ?format=jpg&name=900x900
19:31 <Ali> But Baneslayer Angel is a cheap mythic
19:31 <Ali> And hell Serra Angel hasn't been reprinted in a long time.
19:31 <Schism> Well, that was from back in 2010.
19:31 <Ali> Oh yeah, back then she was good
19:32 <Ali> But they reprinted her again in M21, and her value tanked
19:32 * Finwe tastes his
19:32 <Finwe> aquavit.
19:32 * Schism randomly stares at Maskwood Nexus. "..."
19:32 <Finwe> There will be crayfish dinner tomorrow. Therefore aquavit.
19:33 <Finwe> I seasoned it with lemon, caraway, dill and a bit of honey.
19:33 <Schism> https://twitter.com/dantheshive/status/1425896626116255750/photo/1 - Ali...
19:33 <Schism> Finwe: That does sound tasty. o3o
19:33 <Finwe> Those should go well with crayfish.
19:34 <Ali> Yeah, goldspan dragon is stupid
19:34 <Ali> ANd Xorn? Interesting combo
19:36 <Schism> Xorn's a nice touch, especially since all creatures are also Dragons.
19:39 <Ali> Oddly if its going for that combo
19:39 <Ali> It should use the newest Mythic red dragon
19:39 <Ali> Cause all you need to do is boost it's power to 20, and it one shots the oppenent
19:39 <Schism> Why, you mean Inferno of the Star Mounts, also included in this tweet?
19:40 <Ali> Was he? I didn't see it
19:40 <Schism> Tis in the second photo.
19:40 <Ali> Oh...
19:42 <Schism> Hmm. Wonder if there's a mana-based ability which gives target creature -1/-0 until end of turn. Inferno could then keep getting to 20/6 over and over. Not that it makes that big a difference...
19:42 <Ali> The only problem with that for IRL magic is that Goldspan is a $30+ card
19:42 <Ali> Really in standard, it only needs to hit that level once
19:42 <Schism> I know, I know, but you could wipe out everything like that.
19:43 <Ali> And I think it can only trigger once anyway?
19:43 <Schism> No, it says 'whenever it reaches 20 power in this way'.
19:43 <Schism> So you could proc it repeatedly if you reduce its power afterwards.
19:44 <Schism> "However, if you have a way to decrease its power, you can cause the triggered ability to trigger multiple times in a single turn." -Oracle ruling
19:46 <Ali> Fun times
19:46 <Ali> And there's cards that give creatures neg stuff, but its a pretty severe drop right now in standard
19:47 <Ali> being a -4/-1 for 1 black mana
19:47 <Schism> Assuming a red/green deck... hm, when was Shrink last reprinted.
19:47 <Schism> Masters 2, whoof.
19:51 <Ali> Yeah as far as red/green goes, nada
19:52 <Finwe> I ate all the reds and I ate all the greens, but I still got the blues for you.
19:52 * Finwe noms on Ali's red and green cards.
19:52 <Schism> Yeah, I mean, you could splash blue, but it's black that's got all the weaknesses.
19:53 <Ali> And sadly for standard, the special lands are pretty shallow for mana fixing
19:53 <Ali> Since the triomes are rotating out.
19:53 <Schism> Red/green/black is still viable tho.
19:53 <Schism> I think.
19:54 * Finwe then compiles a patriotic blue and white deck and beats Ali.
19:54 <Schism> Blue/white is a nightmare. :p
19:54 <Ali> Control all the things
19:54 <Finwe> o3o
19:54 <Finwe> US patriotic deck should probably include red as well.
19:55 <Finwe> While Canadians should play red and white.
19:55 <Schism> I could see that as a sort of plinking/control deck.
19:55 <Schism> Problem is that the game's all about ramp at the moment.
19:55 <Schism> Or was last I checked.
19:56 <Finwe> Blue and white used to be guaranteed victory back in high school.
19:56 <Finwe> Or college or whatever you call it.
19:56 <Ali> I don't know, red deck wins is pretty silly at times
19:56 <Ali> Back when bolt was legal
19:57 <Schism> I've a really mean blue/green control deck from back in the day. Sorry, no creatures for you, I have venomous fangs + psionic gift + three untaps.
19:58 <Finwe> o3o
20:00 <Schism> And then the ever classic venom+lure combo for those Hexproof mobs.
20:01 <Schism> Not that Venom has been reprinted in something like 20 years. https://gatherer.wizards.com/pages/card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=4019
20:01 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Drawfriend Stuff (Pony Art Gallery) #3781 [ https://tinyurl.com/ygydgory ]
20:02 <Finwe> My classmate's bravura was to win by targeting a fireball at himself.
20:03 <Finwe> The collateral damage from one was unblockable, I recall.
20:03 <Schism> I think I know that combo. o3o;
20:03 <Schism> Also: https://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=202572 remains sooooooo broken.
20:04 <Finwe> Indeed.
20:05 <Schism> I also quite like this aura. https://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=532554
20:06 <Schism> "Urza's Legacy was the type of set where this was a common. That says a lot about Urza's Legacy, I think."
20:06 <Ali> Yeah I'm trying to get that for my commander hydra deck
20:07 <Ali> Cause Hydra's for some reason don't have trample
20:07 <Finwe> Hydra's what?
20:08 <Finwe> Oh, is that a plural with an apostrophe?
20:08 * Schism boops the Finwe. Also, hums.
20:08 * Finwe scrunchymuzzles.
20:08 <Finwe> *scrunch*
20:09 <Schism> I should bop down to the drugstore shortly...
20:09 * Schism needs more insulin lispro.
20:09 <Finwe> I got my prescriptions renewed.
20:10 <Finwe> There was a combination of three mistakes that lead to my appointment being postponed by almost a year.
20:10 <Schism> Whurf.
20:12 <Schism> Hum, they're only open until 7, so.
20:13 <Finwe> The nurse who was supposed to book the appointment had not done so, a new patient database and management software were installed but my data was not migrated to the new database, so it looked like everything was alright, and finally no one had checked the old database that still existed parallel to the new one.
20:13 * Schism doesn't want to go out, though. It's 28 Celsius and humid...
20:13 <Schism> Finwe: ... impressive, in a very troublesome way.
20:13 <Finwe> It's 15°C and not very humid here.
20:13 * Schism bites Finwe. :<
20:14 <Finwe> Schism: It required that I went to the hospital in person and asked whether everything was alright.
20:14 <Schism> Well, it's also the evening for you. Also, yergh.
20:14 <Finwe> In the beginning I had assumed that they had been forced to postpone the appointments because of COVID.
20:14 <Finwe> But later on it became apparent that there was something wrong.
20:17 <Finwe> Schism: Well, it was 18°C when the sun was still up.
20:17 * Schism grumblycakes.
20:18 * Finwe patpats Schism and offers a glass of elderberry cordial with some ice cubes.
20:18 <Finwe> Erm, elderflower.
20:19 <Finwe> There's also elderberry cordial available, but I prefer the one made of flowers.
20:19 <AppleDash> I used to love that stuff
20:19 <AppleDash> Have not had any in a decade
20:19 <Finwe> Mr AppleDash.
20:19 * Finwe doffs his elderflower cordial.
20:19 <AppleDash> o7
20:20 <Schism> Oh, this is beyond adorbs. https://i.imgur.com/0NrE8uv.gifv
20:21 <Finwe> I buy this one when home-made cordial is not available: https://cdn.natmat.se/content/shopimages/large/7829-07391603500015_c1n1.jpg
20:24 <Schism> Finwe: https://www.pressreader.com/article/281492164357807
20:24 <Schism> Blueberries~
20:25 <Finwe> We have bilberries instead. o3o
20:25 <Finwe> https://www.thespruceeats.com/what-are-bilberries-435421
20:26 <Finwe> Not as large as Vaccinum corymbosum, but somewhat tastier in my opinion.
20:27 <Schism> May well compare apples to oranges, evidently. o3o
20:27 <Finwe> Although I've never tasted wild blueberries.
20:27 <Finwe> The cultivated blueberries that you get here always have a watery taste, whereas the wild bilberries have a lot stronger taste.
20:28 <Schism> Ah, that would explain it.
20:28 * Schism decides to run out before it's too late. Pharmacy's only open for another... 2.5 hours or so.
20:31 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: The My Little Pony: A New Adventure Trailer in All the Languages [ https://tinyurl.com/yfzrczbt ]
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20:37 * Ali baps Starlight_Glimmer
20:38 * Starlight_Glimmer sits in top of Ali
20:38 <Starlight_Glimmer> As comfortable as always :3
20:38 * Ali poofs onto Starlight_Glimmer's back and puffycheeks. "You gone too longs."
20:38 <Starlight_Glimmer> Yeah I know ...
20:38 <Starlight_Glimmer> My nick expired and everything.
20:39 <Ali> Boo
20:39 <Starlight_Glimmer> Looking at the user list though I'm probably not the only one shining with their absence. :(
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20:40 <Ali> Yeah, poofing is common..
20:40 * Ali hugs Dappled to not poof
20:44 * Dappled hugs Ali and snuggles. He can't be bothered to change his routine outside of work.
20:44 * Ali knows and boops Dappled
20:44 <Starlight_Glimmer> Sometimes life just happens I guess.
20:44 * Dappled noms a stick.
20:45 <Starlight_Glimmer> I mean technically you have other ways to get hold of me Ali, so this is kinda all your fault ;)
20:46 <Ali> :T I hate those words with a flaming passion..
20:46 * Starlight_Glimmer snuggles Ali
20:52 <Ali> Also if you mean steam little glim glam, a certain mare is considered 'offline' all the time.
20:52 <Finwe> !starlight time
20:52 <Finwe> Starlight time! Starlight time!
20:52 * Finwe bounces around in front of Starlight_Glimmer.
20:53 * Finwe hugs a Starlight_Glimmer and an Ali.
20:53 <Starlight_Glimmer> Yeah I guess I might have sold my graphics card and haven't bothered to log on with my notebook. Not much gaming going on there.
20:53 * Starlight_Glimmer licks Finwe
20:53 * Finwe tastes of kipper.
20:53 * Dappled just got his Rising Badge.
20:55 * Ali is trying to remember what game that badge is from
20:55 <Dappled> HeartGold. That's the dragon gym.
20:55 <Finwe> o3o
20:55 * Ali boops Dappled, go to the Dragon's Den first
20:56 * Dappled got there eventually.
20:56 <Finwe> Starlight_Glimmer: I did not sell my graphics card, and today I paid the price for that.
20:56 <Starlight_Glimmer> It failed?
20:57 <Finwe> With the new Linux 5.13 my system boots so quickly that the kernel driver for the graphics card takes far longer to be up and running.
20:57 <Starlight_Glimmer> I got basically what I paid for my 1070 4 years ago. Couldn't resist that.
20:57 <Finwe> I have R9 290X, a lot older card.
20:58 <Finwe> Anyhoof, this leads to the display manager failing to start, because there are no displays to manage.
20:58 * Ali is using a hand me down card from someone she'll never see again..
20:58 <Starlight_Glimmer> Heh
20:58 <Ali> While my motherboard is from a Windows Vista PC...
20:58 <Starlight_Glimmer> My notebook has a 1050 mobile. Technically I could play with that, but currently I'm not missing gaming much honestly.
20:59 <Ali> Gaming has gone to crap
20:59 * Dappled gasps at Ali!
20:59 * Dappled thnks she should try Boyfriend Dungeon!
20:59 <Finwe> I spent a couple of hours trying to figure out what was wrong, and in the end it turned out to be a documented problem: https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/LightDM#LightDM_does_not_appear_or_monitor_only_displays_TTY_output
21:01 <Starlight_Glimmer> I did watch the final episode of "Your Lie in April" yesterday though which I enjoyed quite a lot. Still a mistake. I'm actually super sad now. That's a first after watching anime.
21:01 <Finwe> This is what you get for installing the newest kernel and a fast SSD.
21:01 <Starlight_Glimmer> Thinking about it that probably the first time media has actually affected me that much.
21:02 <Starlight_Glimmer> Finwe: I'm running Ubuntu LTS and Debian mostly. Even with NVMe SSDs I never had that happen.
21:02 * Dappled sits over here waiting for Spice and Wolf Season 3.
21:03 <Finwe> Starlight_Glimmer: Which display manager do you use?
21:03 <Finwe> I think Ubuntu has gdm by default.
21:04 <Starlight_Glimmer> Depends on the system
21:04 <Starlight_Glimmer> GDM and LightDM mostly
21:04 <Finwe> lightdm defaults to logind-check-graphical=false
21:05 <Finwe> It always elevates your spirit when you get to read output from journalctl -b. o3o
21:05 * Dappled thought you couldn't use Last Resort unless all the other moves were out of PP.
21:05 <Starlight_Glimmer> Finwe: It's my job xD
21:06 * Finwe patpats Starlight_Glimmer.
21:07 <Starlight_Glimmer> They call me a software developer, but honestly I pretty much do debugging, sysadmin stuff, packaging, privacy ... basically everything other than writing code.
21:07 <Finwe> There's a certain number of retries after which systemd stops trying to restart the display manager. Sometimes it took long enough for the rest of the system to start that the last attempt to start lightdm actually succeeded.
21:08 <Finwe> Which led to the boot being normal like 15% of the tries.
21:08 <Starlight_Glimmer> I mean you can always add ExecStartPre=/bin/sleep x :P
21:09 <Starlight_Glimmer> Or something more fancy, e.g. a loop.
21:09 <Starlight_Glimmer> If they use burst limit you can also adjust those.
21:09 <Finwe> I edited the lightdm configuration file /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf
21:10 <Starlight_Glimmer> Or that.
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21:10 <Finwe> logind-check-graphical=true makes logind check whether there is a framebuffer device to use before even trying to start a display manager.
21:11 <Finwe> I'm not thoroughly sure why it defaults to false.
21:11 <Finwe> Maybe it can slow down the boot sequence by a couple of critical nanoseconds when a problem like mine is not present.
21:12 <Starlight_Glimmer> I had issues with network mounts and systemd's private mount spaces lately. It refuses to start units if it can't (re)mount a broken network share for a unit in a private namespace.
21:12 <Finwe> Sounds like something I would not like to troubleshoot.
21:13 <Starlight_Glimmer> Yeah it's annoying.
21:14 <Finwe> I once had a geometric issue with my laptop.
21:14 <Finwe> The touchpad stopped working after a couple of minutes of use.
21:15 <Finwe> It turned out to be caused by the battery that's located directly under the touchpad and that had started to swell because of old age.
21:16 <Finwe> The swelling effect was enhanced by temperature, and the critical temperature was only reached after a couple of minutes.
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21:17 <Finwe> I replaced the battery and it's been in good working order since then.
21:17 <Starlight_Glimmer> I've seen similar issues on notebooks before, but you could tell by looking at them
21:17 <Starlight_Glimmer> The touchpad was actually elevated.
21:17 <Finwe> Except that the processor and graphics chips start to be outdated.
21:18 <Finwe> Core 2 Duo 9600T isn't especially suited for modern computing tasks.
21:20 <Finwe> Nor GT 9600M or 9400M for any intensive graphics.
21:20 <AppleDash> Hey, I use a Core 2 Quad 9000 series :D
21:20 <Finwe> Video decoding proves no problem, though.
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21:21 <Finwe> Mr ADragonDisconnecting.
21:21 * Finwe doffs his hat.
21:21 <Starlight_Glimmer> I still have a Q6600 around somewhere AppleDash. ... As decoration on the wall.
21:21 <Starlight_Glimmer> It is still working I guess.
21:21 <Finwe> AppleDash: And I have twin Xeon E5462 in daily use. o3o
21:22 <Starlight_Glimmer> I don't get people using ancient hardware unless it's like a C64 or something.
21:22 <Finwe> I have one of those as well. o3o
21:22 <AppleDash> Because a Core 2 Quad isn't "ancient"
21:22 <Finwe> And an Amiga 500.
21:22 <AppleDash> It's like 12 years old and pretty much where we peaked
21:23 <Starlight_Glimmer> I love my old ThinkPad, but I wouldn't want to use it anymore.
21:23 <AppleDash> We *maybe* doubled performance per core since then and then just started nailing on more cores
21:23 <Starlight_Glimmer> The battery life sucks, the display sucks and the processing power leaves things to be desired. The storage would suck too, but I upgraded that.
21:23 <Finwe> But with the new 7 nanometre lithography…
21:24 <Starlight_Glimmer> Well power efficiency etc. did get better.
21:25 <Starlight_Glimmer> AppleDash: I run quite a lot of VMs. More threads really help.
21:25 <Starlight_Glimmer> I don't think I could do my work on a Q6600 anymore. Not without going "cloud" with the VMs anyway.
21:26 <Finwe> Twin-E5462 gets performance mark 4054, while my better processor E5-1660 v4 with the same number of cores gets 13395.
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21:27 <Finwe> To compete with E5-1660 v4 you'd need _six_ E5462 processors.
21:27 * Schism rolls in, and she hugs Starlight_Glimmer. Hi!
21:27 <Finwe> Miss Schism.
21:27 * Dappled leans against Ali and glares at the bell tower. Who designed this monster.
21:27 * Finwe doffs his hat.
21:27 <Schism> rAdm. Finwe.
21:27 * Schism doffs her Pepsi.
21:28 <Ali> The same one who probably designed the tower of crumble in Ruby and Saphire
21:28 * Schism also hugs the Dappled. "And at the top, you face the ghost of a Marowak!"
21:28 <Finwe> I assume you managed to reach the apotechary prior to closing time.
21:28 <AppleDash> I use the AppleDash benchmark
21:28 <Schism> Yes, though the sun is attempting to murder us all.
21:28 <AppleDash> I open Firefox and I type in startpage.com and it loads
21:28 <Schism> Nonetheless, 15 vials of humalog are secured.
21:28 <Finwe> :D
21:28 <Starlight_Glimmer> I'm looking forward to Big-Little making it's way to amd64 though. Batterly life on Linux isn't great at the moment.
21:28 <AppleDash> I open Clip Studio and I drag my pen across the tablet and it draws a line
21:28 * Finwe ruffles AppleDash.
21:28 <AppleDash> This is sufficient
21:28 <Starlight_Glimmer> Schism: Good evening, Schism.
21:29 <Schism> Hi, hi.
21:29 <AppleDash> Stoplight GlimGlam
21:29 <Starlight_Glimmer> AppleDash: You draw?
21:29 <AppleDash> Unfortunately
21:29 <Finwe> AppleDash: It comes in a cheesegrater chassis and I've grown fond of it.
21:29 <AppleDash> :D
21:29 * Schism waves her hoof. Also doesn't know if she's seen Starlight_Glimmer since she learned she was a girl.
21:29 <Finwe> And it can run Firefox and whatnot.
21:29 <Finwe> SSH connection to my shell server also works very well.
21:30 <Starlight_Glimmer> I must see, unless it's lewd.
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21:30 <AppleDash> https://derpibooru.org/tags/artist-colon-ionlydrawtwi Enjoy my abominations ms. Starlight_Glimmer
21:30 <Starlight_Glimmer> I'm very confused by what that is supposed to mean, Schism.
21:31 <Starlight_Glimmer> I was gone for some time though, yeah.
21:31 * Schism shrugs. She is herself, s'all. Thought she was someone else for some time.
21:31 <Dappled> 1451203
21:31 * Dappled dropped keyboard.
21:31 <Finwe> AppleDash: That's scary.
21:31 <Finwe> Maybe you should try playing music instead. o3o
21:31 * Dappled 's pretty sure the top of this tower has Ho-Oh.
21:32 <Finwe> It could also be scary, but in a different way.
21:33 * Schism noms upon Dappled's Pokemon Silver. That's the version they're playing, right, the one with Ho-Oh?
21:33 <Dappled> HeartGold.
21:33 <Schism> Oh, I thought HeartGold had the silver-coloured guardian.
21:33 <AppleDash> Drawing is scary
21:33 <Schism> Lugosi, I think it was. <.<
21:33 <Ali> Lugia
21:34 <Schism> So it's not Bela Lugosi? Bah.
21:34 <Finwe> Lugosi Béla, Hungarian actor.
21:34 * Dappled would totally use Bela Lugosi in every game.
21:34 * Ali flops, team in her endurance series can change tires seven full seconds faster than everyone else..
21:34 <Schism> Also, Suicune is best Legendary Beast.
21:34 <Finwe> Note how in Hungarian the family name comes first.
21:35 <Dappled> Dang vampires!
21:36 <Finwe> AppleDash: Six E5462 processors would be a lot cheaper to buy, though, at around $150.
21:36 * Schism also grump. "Crystal has no Vulpix or Ninetails."
21:36 <Finwe> An E5-1660 v4 still costs $1500.
21:36 <AppleDash> Indeed
21:36 <Dappled> This is does make Silver the best version.
21:36 <Schism> Except Silver doesn't let you play as Kris!
21:37 <Starlight_Glimmer> How do you guys have the patience for Pokémon anymore? Even with a speed hack on an emulator, I can't stand it anymore.
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21:38 <Schism> Mostly I play it when I'm bored?
21:38 <Starlight_Glimmer> Not for a lack of attention span though. I happily listen to 7 hour analysis of stuff.
21:38 <Finwe> Mathematical analysis?
21:39 * Finwe gives Walter Rudin's Real (and) Complex Analysis to Starlight_Glimmer.
21:39 <Finwe> 7 hours is about 7 pages.
21:39 <Schism> Hmm, 'Dizzy Punch', eh?
21:39 * Dappled needs games that he can pick up and put down immediately without losing progress due to his work schedule.
21:39 <Starlight_Glimmer> Literary, mathematical only as part of research on other things, e.g. markets.
21:39 * Dappled regularly works 10-13 hours 5 days a week.
21:40 <Starlight_Glimmer> Yeah but I mean a Switch can do that.
21:40 * Dappled hugs his 2ds.
21:41 * Finwe hugs his d20s.
21:41 <Dappled> Also I'm on a time limit if I'm going to get a living pokedex before we have to wait for gamefreak to fill in the rest on new releases.
21:41 <Starlight_Glimmer> I loved Pokémon as a kid. But today all the busy tasks would put me off.
21:41 <Ali> Or the six trillion legendaries
21:42 <Starlight_Glimmer> I have the same problem with open world games though.
21:42 <Finwe> !lullaby
21:42 * DerpyBot carries Finwe off to bed
21:42 * DerpyBot tucks Finwe in and hums a lullaby
21:42 <Finwe> !shoo
21:42 * DerpyBot sways from side to side, quietly humming "shoo be doo shoo shoo be doo"
21:42 <Finwe> Good night, everypony!
21:42 <Starlight_Glimmer> Don't really enjoy those anymore.
21:42 * Ali tosses Pokemon Arceus at Starlight_Glimmer
21:42 <Starlight_Glimmer> Good night, Finwe.
21:42 <Finwe> I think it's time for me to retire to my boudoir.
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21:43 * Finwe curls up on Ali and snoozes.
21:44 <Schism> Rest well!
21:45 * Dappled feels weird having to explain to his coworkers that he's a millenial when they complain about them to him.
21:47 * Schism giggles.
21:47 <Starlight_Glimmer> Dappled: The generation categories don't really work.
21:48 <Schism> Those things we remember... https://youtu.be/_HmEGRVUcR0?t=7
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21:48 * Dappled chews on his stick a lot.
21:49 * Dappled wonders if his Ho-Oh will be shiny.
21:49 <Dappled> Nope.
21:50 <Starlight_Glimmer> Also looks like I'm running out of anime I'm interested in on our local Netflix.
21:50 <Schism> Reload until it is!
21:50 <Dappled> 6K resets later.
21:52 <Ali> Wonders if X is shiny
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21:52 <Ali> The only shiny you KNOW is going to happen is the red gyarados
21:53 <Ali> Other than that, RNGesus will hate you
21:53 * Dappled got that shiny!
21:53 * Ali wanted to have her own legit Shiny Shaymin. Just feels like the ones she has are hacked.
21:53 <Schism> 1/8192...
21:54 <Ali> Yeah, shiny odds suck
21:55 <Schism> https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Shining_Gyarados_(Neo_Revelation_65)
21:55 <Dappled> 1/100 for Dynamax adventures.
21:56 <Schism> "In Generation VI, the base encounter rate for Shiny Pokémon was increased from 1/8192 to 1/4096."
21:57 <Schism> Dappled, 1/100 with the Shiny Charm, anyway!
21:58 * Dappled has the Shiny Charm.
21:58 * Dappled intends to have the shiny charm at the start of the next games.
21:58 <Schism> "If a Pokémon's Speed, Defense, and Special IVs are all 10, and its Attack IV is 2, 3, 6, 7, 10, 11, 14 or 15, it will be Shiny."
21:59 <Schism> These days, of course, it's more complicated than that. o3o
21:59 <Schism> Or less complicated.
22:00 * Ali has the shiny charm in SnS, but...lost interest in the game.
22:00 <Ali> And Dappled, I believe the shiny charm is post game only
22:01 * Dappled can have a complete pokedex before that, so is going to try.
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22:01 * Dappled ponders teaching Ho-Oh fly to make it take me everywhere.
22:02 <Schism> Just catch an Abra. o3o
22:02 <Dappled> Okay, but... Making a legendary bird ferry me around sounds awesome.
22:08 <Dappled> Ignore Latios/as. They way to eager to carry you around.
22:08 * Dappled wonders if Mewtwo can learn fly.
22:29 <Schism> Mew certainly can!
22:43 <Schism> I am shocked, shocked by this article. https://www.polygon.com/22622396/activision-blizzard-toxic-culture-qa-customer-service-report
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23:01 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: WARNING: The Entire My Little Pony: A New Generation G5 Movie in Book Form Has Been Released and Uploaded to the Internet [ https://tinyurl.com/yjbgqb78 ]
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23:02 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: This Updated Map From the My Little Pony: A New Generation Trailer [ https://tinyurl.com/yf6ap343 ]
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23:45 <Schism> I don't think I like being in this picture. https://twitter.com/heresvix/status/1425911612788166662
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23:53 <Amelia> 422 unread
23:53 <Amelia> Good morning, ponies
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23:57 <Schism> Hiyas.
23:58 <Amelia> How are you schism?
23:58 <Schism> Hungry. We were discussing left-handedness and its comparisons to neurodivergence in another channel, the discussion turned to table etiquette, and then it turned to food, as it always does when I'm in the room.
23:59 <Schism> How're you, though?
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