00:07 <Schism> He is intent upon the fact that I need to pay the lion's share of the rent.
00:07 <Schism> This month, I will pay the full total of $500. He can pay the remainder. I've bought ALL THE GODDAMNED FOOD.
00:08 <Tiffany> Oof
00:08 <Schism> $500 is half the rent.
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04:38 <Finwe> Morning, everypony!
04:39 <Tiffany> Morning for you finwe ^^
04:40 <uni> good morning!
04:42 <Finwe> Mlles Ali, Schism and Tiffany; Messrs AppleDash, Cepheid, Lumindia, PinkieShy, Starlight_Glimmer and uni.
04:42 * Finwe doffs his hat.
04:42 * Ali boops Finwe with the X buster
04:43 * Finwe scruches his muzzle.
04:43 <Finwe> *scrunch*
04:44 <Ali> Just beat Megaman X4 as X
04:46 * Finwe noms on Ali's Megaman cartridges.
04:46 * Ali boops Finwe as its the X collection on steam
04:48 * Finwe noms on Ali's Steam credentials instead.
04:48 <Schism> It is of course terrible to suggest that Ali be a fan of 20xx.
04:49 <Ali> I'm not
04:49 <Schism> <.<
04:49 <Finwe> That would have been quite uncute and could therefore be foreseen.
04:49 <Schism> So, um.
04:50 <Schism> Ali, you are not at all a fan of Mario Party...
04:50 <Schism> Or just Mario Kart. <.<
04:50 <Ali> Depends on which one it is
04:50 <Ali> 1 9 and 10, nope, don't like em
04:50 <Ali> Never played 6 and 7 due to the mic
04:50 <Schism> S'fair...
04:51 <Schism> No Switch Mario Party, then.
04:51 <Ali> One I dislike due to the rotate the control stick minigames
04:51 <Ali> Super Mario Party? Sorry that's not a real MP game
04:51 <Ali> It tries, but its MP Lite at best
04:51 * Schism headtilts.
04:51 <Schism> Suppose...!
04:51 <Ali> Its not 20 coins per star
04:51 <Finwe> Mario Brothers is the only real Mario game.
04:52 <Ali> The minigame coin handouts are really funky
04:52 <Ali> all the allies
04:52 <Finwe> All the Alies.
04:52 * Ali just didn't like it, and the fact that it comes with...what 4 boards?
04:52 * Schism nods, "Some coming later, but only 4 boards is not enough."
04:52 <Finwe> Or Donkey Kong could also count as Mario game.
04:53 <Ali> Coming later? They came out with a completely new MP that's just remastered boards of the older games
04:53 <Ali> But of all boards... PEACHES BIRTHDAY CAKE
04:53 <Schism> urgh, okay, that one was a bad choice.
04:56 <Ali> Cause you have to pick one of four flowers, and one sends you to bowser, no iffs, ands or buts
04:58 <Finwe> "Go to Bowser. Go directly to Bowser. Do not pass Go. Do not collect $200."
04:59 <Ali> You mean lose a star
04:59 <Finwe> o3o
05:00 <Finwe> As I said, the only real Mario games are Mario Brothers and Donkey Kong.
05:00 <Finwe> Because I have those.
05:00 <Finwe> For C-64. o3o
05:05 <Schism> Mario 3 too. <.<
05:06 <Finwe> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mario_Bros.
05:06 <Finwe> It says that Donkey Kong is the real Mario game, and Mario Bros. is just a spinoff.
05:17 <Schism> Wrecking Crew is, of course, entirely canon.
05:21 * Finwe watches frolicking urban foxen on Fox 'N' The City.
05:22 * Schism is a mixed fox. So while she frolicks, she is not quite what Finwe is watching.
05:24 * Schism waits for a brief period for her whole body to cool down. >_O
05:25 <Finwe> After flolicking?
05:25 <Finwe> *frolicking
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06:08 <Finwe> Mr uni.
06:08 * Finwe doffs his hat.
06:12 <uni> eeeek I died again
06:12 <uni> sorry!
06:15 * Finwe resurrects uni.
06:15 <Finwe> o3o
06:15 <uni> heroes never die!
06:16 * uni hums as he installs debian in a VM
06:20 <Finwe> D:
06:21 * Finwe flailyhooves!
06:21 <Finwe> Install Arch!
06:25 <uni> hehe~
06:25 <uni> gotta simulate a raspi though
06:36 <Finwe> But would you not need Raspian then?
06:36 * Finwe noms on uni (and some of Schism's tails).
06:42 <uni> I don't think I can run raspbian in virtualbox
06:42 <uni> besides debian should be close enough
06:42 <uni> I hope
06:44 <Finwe> I started with Debian, but I migrated to Ubuntu and then to Arch.
06:45 <Finwe> I still have two Ubuntu installations, though.
06:45 <Finwe> And Manjaro Mate and Arch in addition.
06:46 <Finwe> Manjaro is basically Arch with some extra Manjaro stuff.
06:58 * uni sticks out his tongue
06:58 <uni> Arch is the best
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07:06 <ConfusionRift> Hello everypony.
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07:54 <Finwe> Lt Cdr ConfusionRift, Capt Koopz.
07:54 <Finwe> o7
07:55 <ConfusionRift> RAdm. Finwe. (salutes)
08:08 <Koopz> RAdm. Finwe o7
08:31 * Starlight_Glimmer replaces Finwe's operating system with FreeDOS.
08:32 <Finwe> The one that comes with DOSbox?
08:32 * Finwe fiddles with Starlight_Glimmer's server, making it run Caldera OpenDOS.
08:34 <Starlight_Glimmer> The last time I used DOS was when floppy drives were still a thing :P
08:34 * Starlight_Glimmer doesn't care much for retro computing.
08:34 * Ali fiddles with Starlight_Glimmer and Finwe's computers to only run on Vista~
08:34 <Starlight_Glimmer> I actually liked Vista.
08:35 * Finwe hisses at both Ali and Starlight_Glimmer.
08:35 <Starlight_Glimmer> I mean don't get me wrong, 7 was better, but Vista was actually an improvement over XP in many ways.
08:35 <Finwe> I've never used XP.
08:35 <Starlight_Glimmer> Can't say the same for 11 coming from 10.
08:35 <Starlight_Glimmer> What?
08:35 <Starlight_Glimmer> How?
08:35 <Finwe> I had Win 2000. o3o
08:36 * Starlight_Glimmer was assuming Finwe might still need diapers.
08:36 <Starlight_Glimmer> I mean that's everyone born after 2000, right, ... right?
08:36 * ConfusionRift will continue to bow over 7.
08:36 <ConfusionRift> Despite being forced to use 10. :P
08:36 <Finwe> The next Windows version I've had installed on my own computer was 10.
08:37 <Finwe> Vista and 8… urgh.
08:37 * Finwe chokes thinking of those horrors.
08:37 <Starlight_Glimmer> With the exception of 8 I've used every major Windows version since 95.
08:37 <Starlight_Glimmer> Including ME.
08:37 <Starlight_Glimmer> And by use I mean like more than tried it for half an hour.
08:37 <ConfusionRift> Have use most, but owned few.
08:38 <Starlight_Glimmer> I did have customer hardware running 8 or 8.1 at some point.
08:38 <Finwe> C64 Basic V2, AmigaOS, Win2000 + Debian/Ubuntu, SteveOS + Ubuntu, SteveOS + Win 10 + Arch + Ubuntu.
08:39 <Finwe> That's about it.
08:39 <Starlight_Glimmer> The last one I added to my list was Windows10 S. It hurt.
08:39 <Starlight_Glimmer> Haven't bothered with 11 yet.
08:39 * ConfusionRift is worried about this... 11.
08:40 <Starlight_Glimmer> My daily drives are all running some flavor of Linux. My desktop is running Windows 10, but it currently has no graphics card.
08:41 <Starlight_Glimmer> Haven't daily driven MacOS yet either. Have to add this to my list at some point.
08:41 <Finwe> Starlight_Glimmer: Luckily there are lots of affordable bleeding edge graphics cards available.
08:41 <Starlight_Glimmer> Yeah ... right.
08:41 <Finwe> :3
08:41 * Finwe smirks.
08:41 <Starlight_Glimmer> I sold mine! It's "my own fault".
08:41 * Ali sits with her Win 95 PC
08:42 <Finwe> Starlight_Glimmer: We know, you told us.
08:42 <Starlight_Glimmer> What are you running right now, Ali?
08:42 <Ali> 10
08:42 <Starlight_Glimmer> Yeah but like not on 95 era hardware.
08:42 <Finwe> Could be.
08:42 * Ali misses 95 a bit cause unicorn liked the folders layout better
08:43 <Finwe> Does it count if you still have the same chassis but have updated every single component inside, ofter several times.
08:43 <Ali> That and it would run my Magic PC game...slowly.
08:43 <Finwe> *often
08:44 <Starlight_Glimmer> Not getting into that philosophical debate, Finwe. :P
08:44 <Starlight_Glimmer> The grey boxes are kinda horrible though.
08:45 * ConfusionRift also fond of win 95. Not so much 98 though.
08:46 <Starlight_Glimmer> Used PCs can be had for very little money. Especially office PCs. Only downside is that they lack upgradeability and don't conform to standards.
08:46 * ConfusionRift points at his Win2K Dell. :P
08:46 <ConfusionRift> It cost me back then a whopping $200.
08:47 <Finwe> Starlight_Glimmer: I have an old workstation. It's quite upgradable and conforms to some standards.
08:47 <ConfusionRift> And yeah, upgradeability is 100% out the window. Heh... window... heh... OS joke.
08:48 * Ali boops ConfusionRift nosie
08:48 <Starlight_Glimmer> Well if you look at those small form factor HP pcs for example.
08:48 <ConfusionRift> :P
08:48 <Starlight_Glimmer> Or DELL stuff.
08:48 <Finwe> 8 memory slots, 700W power supply,
08:48 <Starlight_Glimmer> They have odd power supplies, mainboards etc.
08:48 <Finwe> Mine is HP Z440.
08:48 <ConfusionRift> Almost all proprietary systems did.
08:49 <Starlight_Glimmer> That's one of the reasons I built every non-mobile computer myself.
08:49 <Finwe> But yes, the one I had previously was a bit problematic.
08:49 <ConfusionRift> Well, back then, I was tight on cash and needed a PC.
08:49 <Finwe> There wasn't enough space for a two-slot graphics card, for example.
08:49 <Starlight_Glimmer> Yeah used the make good bargains.
08:50 <Finwe> And no way to get power for one, either.
08:50 <ConfusionRift> So I went to a PC shop and bought a decommissioned downgraded PC.
08:50 <Starlight_Glimmer> Quite often you can get quite recent systems from liquidation for under 100 bucks.
08:50 <Starlight_Glimmer> Essentially the SSD inside being almost worth more than the whole system.
08:50 <Finwe> Indeed.
08:51 <ConfusionRift> If you lieve near one of those Microcenters, you're basically set with a budget.
08:51 <ConfusionRift> *live
08:56 <ConfusionRift> There we go... a Dell Optiplex GX240.
09:22 <ConfusionRift> Still have it... not sure why anymore.
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09:37 <Golden> ???
09:55 <ConfusionRift> Hey there.
09:56 * Schism flumps.
09:56 <Schism> Hoi.
09:57 * ConfusionRift waves.
10:12 * ConfusionRift flops. Isn't sure what to do, listens to music in the meantime.
10:13 <Schism> I'm going to get back to sleep soon, or try. ._.
10:13 <Schism> Except it's too (#$*ing HOT.
10:13 <Schism> "Only 15 degrees," they say, but 97% HUMIDITY AGAIN THIS MORNING
10:22 * Golden flops.
10:23 * Schism melts into a bucket of fox.
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10:48 <Finwe> Mlles Angeline and Schism; Mr Golden.
10:48 * Finwe doffs his hat.
10:49 * Angeline snuggles sleepily.
10:50 <Schism> rAdm. Finwe.
10:50 * Schism doffs her glass of ice ...wait, no, it's water now.
11:05 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Morning Discussion #2393 [ https://tinyurl.com/yg9ns2z2 ]
11:06 <ConfusionRift> Is that water you got- oh, it's now steam... and into the air it goes.
11:16 <Schism> Admittedly, it'd sublimate more readily if we weren't at 97% humidity... ._.
11:28 <Finwe> Water doesn't sublimate, I think.
11:29 <Schism> Of course not, but ice does.
11:30 <Finwe> Ice is only solid water, but yes, left of the isothermic triple point.
11:31 <Schism> I was more saying that water can't sublimate, because it's already liquid. It can evaporate, sure.
11:32 <Finwe> What I meant is that it doesn't sublimate in anywhere near normal conditions.
11:32 <Schism> True enough. I was being hyperbolic.
11:33 <Finwe> Ambient pressure of 0.006 atm and temperature less than 273.16 K is required.
11:33 <Schism> Which makes it useful for getting rid of heat in space.
11:34 <Finwe> But space has no temperature. o3o
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12:08 <ConfusionRift> Wait... Bazelgeuse is pronounced... Bah-zel-geese? ...whatever, there's a Beetlegoose in the game. :P
12:08 <Schism> Just call it Bagel, best eaten with a delicious Pickle.
12:09 <Finwe> o3o
12:09 <Finwe> ConfusionRift: No, it's "爆鱗竜".
12:10 <ConfusionRift> And then, someone makes a custom quest with Bazelgeuse and Deviljo called "bagel with pickle". :P
12:10 * ConfusionRift shrugs. "English translation and all. Also... can't read that." :P
12:10 <Finwe> "Bazerugiusu". o3o
12:11 <Finwe> It's more obvious if you write it as バゼルギウス.
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12:33 <Schism> ConfusionRift, I offer for your appreciation this cursed idea. https://twitter.com/anhdangerous/status/1426484501111209988
12:33 * Schism also flings a plush Menagerie at Taoki, randomly.
12:34 <ConfusionRift> Hahahaaa! :P
12:34 <Schism> The most horrible thing about that image is that Elle Woods would fit right in with the rest of the Ace Attorney cast.
12:34 <Finwe> But attorneys don't solve cases, except maybe Ben Matlock.
12:35 <Schism> Or Perry Mason.
12:35 * Finwe nodnods.
12:36 <Schism> But seriously, in the Ace Attorney series, everyone is some new and exciting flavour of completely insane, with the possible exception of Miles Edgeworth. So Elle Woods is an entirely reasonable addition to the cast.
12:36 <Schism> (<Miles> L-look, the Steel Samurai is a real person, alright? <Phoenix> If you're sure, Miles...)
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12:39 <Finwe> Should it be "Ace Barrister"?
12:40 <Finwe> Because those are specifically the members of the Bar, who are allowed to conduct litigation in court.
12:40 <Finwe> I mean appear in court.
12:41 <Finwe> Solicitors are allowed to conduct litigation, but nothing more.
12:41 <Schism> The original name, which is reflected in the names of the chapters, is Gyakuten Saiban, or 'Turnabout court'. It refers specifically to the turning point in the trial when everything seems lost until the protagonist comes up with that one crucial piece of evidence.
12:42 <Schism> This was changed to Ace Attorney in the Anglicizations, and as the main market appeared to be (and probably is) the US, that's why they used Attorney rather than Barrister.
12:43 <Finwe> Also, there's the (weak) alliteration. o3o
12:43 <Schism> The distinction between types of attorney is somewhat more muddled on this side of the pond.
12:43 <Schism> Well, types of advocate.
12:43 <Finwe> Lawyer. o3o
12:44 <Schism> Legal advocate, TYVM. o5o
12:44 <Schism> Meanwhile, I should finish Aviary Attorney sometime.
12:45 <Finwe> I have that game, too.
12:45 <Finwe> It was free on Steam at some point.
12:45 <Schism> Tis a game about a menagerie of animals in Paris... in 1830. Everyone should know what happened next.
12:46 <Finwe> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2RPKMJmSp0
12:46 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.
12:46 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about ♬ Camille Saint-Saëns ♯ The Carnival of the Animals (complete) / Le Carnaval des Animaux ♯ [HQ]
12:47 <Schism> I love the use thereof in the game. <3
12:47 <Finwe> 1830 was a busy year.
12:48 <Schism> Also a bit earlier than Camille St.-Saens, but what's a bit of anachronism in a historical period drama?
12:50 <Finwe> The 'Murricans legalised robbing land from indigenous peoples, William IV became king of the United Kingdom, France captured Algeria, the Book of Mormon was published, Ecuador separated from Colombia, the French revolted, the Belgians revolted, Ferdinand II became king of Two Sicilies and the Polish revolted.
12:51 <Finwe> Also, a patent was granted for invention of lawn mower. o3o
12:52 <Finwe> And the last king of France, Louis Philippe, also had his coronation after the revolution.
12:54 <ConfusionRift> ...
12:54 * ConfusionRift stops playing. Thinks he's reached that point of tiredness.
12:55 <ConfusionRift> Pulling some really stupid moves.
12:55 <Schism> Hehe.
12:55 <Schism> Oh, did you get that one game?
12:56 <Schism> Aggelos, that is.
12:57 <ConfusionRift> Thanks for reminding me. Completely forgot.
12:57 <Schism> Hopefully it's still on sale...
12:57 <Schism> Okay, Twitter, why is 'furrycommunity' trending.
12:58 <Schism> Outside of the fact that DenFur just wrapped up.
12:59 <ConfusionRift> Yep, still is.
12:59 <Schism> Ah, superb. I mean, only $2.50 or thereabouts, so even with an hour's engagement I got my money's worth.
13:00 <ConfusionRift> Well, $2.99 of $14.99 is not bad at all.
13:01 <Schism> Yuppers. And it's at least a bit fun, though very, very basic.
13:04 <ConfusionRift> Sometimes, basic is good, especially with some solid gameplay and levels.
13:06 <Schism> Yup!
13:07 <ConfusionRift> And other times, games get too complicated or try to do too much, and just gets lost with that.
13:09 <ConfusionRift> In this particular of game (not Aggelos), it starts nice and spiffy, and then slowly slides downhill and loses its narrative. To the point that the game just starts to get... boring. Most challenges are illusions of difficulty, or the game resorts to cheating.
13:10 <ConfusionRift> It's Ni No Kuni 2 all over again.
13:10 <Schism> Well, there's not much narrative to lose. 'Hey, save the princess, threat to the world, four elements, let's go.' In the case of this one, though, the first boss was okay, not great, not terribad. Challenge is there...
13:10 <Schism> We'll see how it goes, anyway.
13:12 <ConfusionRift> Doable challenges are fine. What I don't like is when the game dresses challenge with "it's the same thing, but has more health and hits harder".
13:12 <ConfusionRift> Or "this attack will wipe everyone, guaranteed".
13:14 <ConfusionRift> In any case... (coughs) ...a nice basic platformer is fine by me, I'm into that. :P
13:16 <Schism> You'll be fine then. It's also very 1990s, so be prepared for enemies which jump out of the bottom of the screen to knock you off ledges.
13:16 <ConfusionRift> Oooh, coool. We're gonna get all Castlevania in here. :P
13:20 <Schism> So...
13:20 * ConfusionRift points at the mermen lurking in the water, waiting for him to get near, so they can jump, bite his ankle, and somersault straight into water and drown. :P
13:20 <Schism> This is the new Dr. Strange. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E9jsUzxWEAYBfdK?format=jpg&name=large - Okay. I can see him making bad choices, but I want to rescue that coffee mug from him and bring it back.
13:20 <Schism> Thankfully, in this game, water is not an issue. :p
13:21 <ConfusionRift> Hehehe, that mug.
13:22 <Schism> I adore the idea of Dr. Strange, Sorcerer Supreme, just having that swept-back hair and also a quilted coat from The Bay with a cape fastener just so that he can go around with that.
13:22 <Schism> And a school t-shirt beneath it. Just... that encapsulates the geek he is.
13:22 <Schism> No wait, school hoodie.
13:46 <Finwe> o3o
14:13 * ConfusionRift flops for sleepy bye-bye.
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14:34 * Schism takes morning anticistamines.
14:40 <Finwe> Breast mints?
14:43 <Schism> Tit-tacs.
14:48 <Finwe> I suppose we're speaking of estradiol.
14:49 <Schism> Yes, though for anticistamines, that would be cyproterone acetate.
14:49 <Schism> Or antiboyotics, anyway.
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17:01 <Schism> "Well, we had some cancellations, so I can fit you in for an electrolysis appointment on Thursday. Is 10 okay?" "Yeah, that'll work alright!" [internally: aaaaaaa yes yes yes yes aaaaaaaaaaaaa]
17:02 * Schism is getting rid of some of her facial haaaaair...~
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17:09 * Ali yawnsies and flops over the Schism
17:13 * Schism snugs the Ali. Still not cute. https://imgur.com/LR7MGgK
17:14 * Ali is a bit too grumpy with the stupidity of murica right now to want to deal with cute fites
17:17 * Schism nods, and puts Ali in a cool sheet, snugging.
17:25 <Starlight_Glimmer> Ali: You know applying for refugee status in Europe is always an option :3
17:26 <Starlight_Glimmer> I think there are special exemptions for cute.
17:26 * Ali hates flying, and can't give up her AC
17:27 <Starlight_Glimmer> I'm pretty sure you can get AC over here as well.
17:27 <Starlight_Glimmer> And boats are a thing. I mean a lot of refugees come by boat. I just would recommend not going with the same quality of boat. They tend to sink a lot.
17:28 <Schism> I think Ali means 'anticute'.
17:28 <Schism> Something she takes to make herself not-cute, when she so naturally is.
17:29 <Schism> (psst, it's not working very well.)
17:29 <Starlight_Glimmer> Yeah she hasn't caught on to that quite yet.
17:30 <Schism> "So, this half hour appointment will cost $50." "SOLD."
17:32 <Starlight_Glimmer> Hey you could pay that traitorous bacon monster a visit. I think we sort of established a prison colony there now.
17:32 <Starlight_Glimmer> We copied the idea from Australia.
17:35 <Schism> Every time I tell a medical professional that my name's Jennifer and they just put it down without even questioning it and then I see the paperwork it's just like VALIDATION.
17:35 * Schism hugs herself.
17:37 <Starlight_Glimmer> I must say though Schism: It does confuse me a bit when people put their preferred pronouns in their names etc.
17:37 <Schism> Like part of their profile? It can be a tad awkward at first, but it does help to avoid social missteps and miscues.
17:38 <Starlight_Glimmer> When talking to someone I couldn't care less what pronoun they use for me.
17:38 <Starlight_Glimmer> I switch it around here all the time.
17:39 <Schism> That's fine, and a lot of folks are gender-neutral or gender-fluid in that sense. For some of us, a given set of pronouns, such as she/her in my case, can be validating or at least affirming. For others, it's just what they're used to.
17:39 <Starlight_Glimmer> I was sort of hoping we would just get to a point where it doesn't matter anymore.
17:39 <Starlight_Glimmer> At least around here we're going in the opposite direction though.
17:40 <Schism> That would be ideal, where if someone volunteers their gender it'll be affirmed, and if they don't it's just they/them until otherwise stated.
17:40 <Starlight_Glimmer> I want less separation by gender, not more.
17:41 <Starlight_Glimmer> I'm so glad we don't have separate toilets at work for example.
17:41 <Starlight_Glimmer> My department is at the moment a bit away from our main building due to space constraints
17:41 <Schism> Unfortunately, we do - at least for the interim. I was also reminded of this separation the other day; we went out to a restaurant (first time in two years!) and then I had to use the restroom and momentary panic at going left or right.
17:42 <Schism> But I was... mostly presenting as masc, so.
17:43 <Starlight_Glimmer> We have 2 floors with 2 toilets each. We have space for 80 employees or so. If we had use only half of those just because we have 2 females in our whole department it'd be a bit silly.
17:43 <Starlight_Glimmer> I mean if we can't share toilets I don't have much faith left in humanity.
17:43 * Schism headtilts. "That sounds almost like some sort of weird hiring policy failure, too."
17:44 <Starlight_Glimmer> Mind you: Unlike in many toilets in the United Stated you don't have clearance around the doors.
17:44 <Starlight_Glimmer> And the walls go quite low and high.
17:44 <Starlight_Glimmer> So unless you really try no peeking there.
17:44 <Starlight_Glimmer> I work in IT Schism.
17:44 <Starlight_Glimmer> That's just the sad reality of the job.
17:44 <Schism> That policy of 'practically open stalls' has been decried for quite a number of years. Also, and what's your point, women were the original programmers, and STEM needs to get more.
17:45 <Starlight_Glimmer> I work in development. Our support has exactly zero females.
17:45 <Starlight_Glimmer> The quota is better in HR etc.
17:47 <Starlight_Glimmer> Technically my employer is still required by law to have gender separate toilets. Nobody cares though.
17:48 <Starlight_Glimmer> I'm glad we're at least a bit progressive there.
17:48 <Starlight_Glimmer> And you should also have hygiene bins in men's restrooms, so no difference there either.
17:49 <Schism> Honestly, it's not like there's that much of a difference, besides the lack of urinals in womens' washrooms.
17:50 <Starlight_Glimmer> There's been a bit of scandal lately because the city has public restrooms that are free of charge for men if you only need to go for no. 1, while no such free entry exists for females.
17:50 <Starlight_Glimmer> Their reasoning being that they want to prevent men from peeing in public.
17:51 <Starlight_Glimmer> Honestly the real scandal is that charging for restrooms has somehow become acceptable.
17:51 <Schism> Having played Rollercoaster Tycoon for decades, I would say the real scandal is that they're not charging $5 a use for their restrooms.
17:52 <Schism> But also yes, that's pretty vile.
17:52 <Starlight_Glimmer> But quite common now.
17:52 <Starlight_Glimmer> So much so that it makes list of unexpected things in my country 6_9
17:53 <Schism> It's not like urinary tract infections are something new.
17:53 <Starlight_Glimmer> To be fair though: At least some of them actually make an effort to keep things clean.
17:54 <Schism> Starlight_Glimmer, oh, did you see the new Dr. Strange?
17:54 <Starlight_Glimmer> No, I don't think so.
17:54 <Schism> For your appreciation. https://twitter.com/runwithskizzers/status/1430152852320686083/photo/1 (and I want that damned coffee mug)
17:56 <Schism> Trademark cape on a Kohl's quilted polyester-and-flannel coat.
17:57 <Schism> And a university hoodie.
18:17 <Starlight_Glimmer> I wonder if I should go watch "Free guy" tomorrow. Has been some time since I've been to the movies.
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18:27 * Starlight_Glimmer sits on Librarian
18:28 <Starlight_Glimmer> Just in time for my required rest.
18:28 * Librarian sits on glim glam , paradox causes explosion
18:39 * Librarian pokes ali
18:40 * Ali quacks
18:40 <Librarian> heck, ali dcuk
18:40 *** Librarian is now known as Duckbrarian
18:40 <Duckbrarian> Quack
18:40 <Duckbrarian> im staying like this today owo
18:44 * Schism completes the intake form for her electrolysis. o9o8o7o6o5o
18:45 <Duckbrarian> took some gatorade?
18:45 <Duckbrarian> or something like thaht
18:46 <Schism> No, this is hair removal.
18:47 <Duckbrarian> ahh
18:47 <Duckbrarian> you drink something and removes hair?
18:48 <Duckbrarian> im missing steps here
18:48 * Starlight_Glimmer rolls Duckbrarian in batter.
18:48 <Starlight_Glimmer> Mhh, duck <3
18:51 <Starlight_Glimmer> https://www.healthline.com/health/beauty-skin-care/laser-hair-removal-vs-electrolysis#electrolysis
18:51 <Starlight_Glimmer> This is news for me as well.
18:52 <Schism> Laser absolutely wouldn't work for me -- I'm way too blonde, throughout. Well, maybe on my chest hair.
18:52 <Starlight_Glimmer> When I searched for electrolysis Google actually suggested that. This is definitely not what I thought of when reading electrolysis.
18:54 <Schism> Basically, they take the follicles and burn them to cinders. o3o
18:54 <Duckbrarian> cryspy
18:55 <Schism> I joke, really, but it really is a matter of obliterating them in that fashion.
18:58 <Starlight_Glimmer> I did go to an orthodontist today. Looks like I can no longer flee from at least getting 2 of my wisdom teeth removed.
18:58 <Starlight_Glimmer> Not particularly looking forward to that.
19:08 <Duckbrarian> i had that done
19:08 <Duckbrarian> like 1o years ago
19:08 <Duckbrarian> it not that bad
19:08 <Duckbrarian> albeit proably expensive
19:09 <Starlight_Glimmer> Heh!
19:09 <Duckbrarian> the expensive bit?
19:10 <Starlight_Glimmer> Yeah, let me introduce you to our German healthcare system.
19:10 <Starlight_Glimmer> It's sometimes a bit of a mess, but that's complaining on a very high level.
19:11 <Duckbrarian> cant be that bad
19:11 <Starlight_Glimmer> So I had to pay like 10 bucks for the medication I believe (antibiotics and painkillers). That's it.
19:11 <Starlight_Glimmer> If you want to be knocked out for the procedure you'd have to pay like 100-200 bucks.
19:12 <Starlight_Glimmer> Local anesthesia is "free" of course.
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19:13 <Duckbrarian> the usa system would probably charge you 2000 bucks and punch you in the face
19:15 <Starlight_Glimmer> I said free there of course because nothing in life is free.
19:15 <Starlight_Glimmer> This is essentially covered by health insurance.
19:15 <Duckbrarian> ahh
19:15 <Duckbrarian> owo
19:15 <Starlight_Glimmer> You have to have health insurance.
19:15 <Duckbrarian> i sell the stuff
19:16 <Duckbrarian> insurance agent is one of my jobs
19:16 <Starlight_Glimmer> You can choose which health care provider you want to go with. All have to provide a basic level that's essentially all you really need.
19:17 <Starlight_Glimmer> So I'm with one of the cheaper providers because I don't care about stuff like homeopathy for example.
19:17 <Starlight_Glimmer> Some might of some sort of training as part of the plan et.c
19:17 <Duckbrarian> they cover homeopathy?
19:17 <Starlight_Glimmer> But the coverage is like 99.5% identical.
19:17 <Starlight_Glimmer> Some do, yes.
19:17 <Duckbrarian> thats weird
19:18 <Duckbrarian> i cant cover anything remotel non medical
19:18 <Duckbrarian> which homeopathy would be fitted in
19:18 <Duckbrarian> cause they don twanna oay
19:18 <Starlight_Glimmer> Besides this system if you have a better income or if you're self employed there's also a more private system you can opt for.
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19:19 <PinkieShy> hey hey hey :D
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19:19 <Starlight_Glimmer> This gets more complicated. It has certain benefits like insurance not depending on your income and priority appointments.
19:19 <Starlight_Glimmer> But you have to cover cost upfront.
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19:19 <Starlight_Glimmer> Also in my plan children would be included for free.
19:20 <Starlight_Glimmer> This isn't the case for the private system.
19:20 * Librarian applies owo at pinkie shy
19:20 <Starlight_Glimmer> So I pay ~250 bucks. This is directly deducted from my income. My employer pays roughly the same on top.
19:21 <Starlight_Glimmer> This is in EURO, but it essentially doesn't matter much whether you have Euro or USD.
19:22 <Starlight_Glimmer> The differently is like 20% (1€ is about 1.20 USD), but our prices include sales tax etc. Just ignore the currency for to get an idea.
19:22 <Starlight_Glimmer> difference*
19:24 <Starlight_Glimmer> This basically means that besides a couple of euros here and there for medication, some daily fee they charge you if you go to a hospital to cover what you "save" in food and drinks and stuff like glasses you essentially don't need to worry about healthcare cost.
19:24 <Starlight_Glimmer> If I want to see a doctor there's no extra charge.
19:24 <Starlight_Glimmer> If I call an ambulance there's no extra charge.
19:25 <Starlight_Glimmer> If they have to pick me up with a helicopter there's not extra charge.
19:25 <Starlight_Glimmer> no*
19:25 <Starlight_Glimmer> Some people call this socialism, but honestly it's pretty great.
19:26 <Starlight_Glimmer> If you hear Germans talking about our healthcare system they'll of course complain because there are issues, but compared to other countries we're living in heaven here when it comes to healthcare.
19:28 <Starlight_Glimmer> If you're unemployed and receive unemployment benefits the state covers your health insurance.
19:29 <Librarian> heck
19:29 <Librarian> sounds better than canada
19:29 <Starlight_Glimmer> Outside of a few edge cases particularly with people who opted for the private system it's pretty hard to fall outside of coverage.
19:29 <Librarian> i think the mexican system is a mess, still cheap and in an emergency its doable
19:29 <Librarian> the national health institues are great
19:30 <Librarian> the doctora are world class, problem here is the goverment is nuts
19:30 <Librarian> you should see the premiums im charging for my client
19:30 <Librarian> clients
19:30 <Librarian> and im nice, im trying to help
19:31 <Librarian> predatory agents can really milk it
19:32 <Starlight_Glimmer> Some procedures - primarily cosmetic stuff and brand new stuff - you pay out of pocket. Most people will rarely get in contact with that though outside of ceramic fillings maybe. You pay like 50ish bucks extra for those.
19:33 <Starlight_Glimmer> Actually I think it's plastic, not ceramic.
19:33 <Starlight_Glimmer> If you want your children to have "invisible" braces for example, that's an extra charge as well.
19:33 <Librarian> owo
19:34 <Librarian> goign back to the wisdom teeth
19:34 <Librarian> that is not that bad
19:34 <Librarian> you can even keep em
19:34 <Starlight_Glimmer> Right ...
19:35 <Starlight_Glimmer> Because I'd want those?
19:35 <Starlight_Glimmer> If you stick a 50 euro bill under my pillow I might consider it.
19:35 <Librarian> you can paint a happy face on them and put em on the table
19:36 <Starlight_Glimmer> Actually they told me they'll remove them in 4 pieces, so make that 4*50*2. That's how that works, right? :P
19:36 <Starlight_Glimmer> Yeah sorry, not interested.
19:37 <Librarian> wut?
19:37 * Librarian pokes ali
19:37 <Librarian> ali is cute
19:37 * Ali is not cute...
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19:46 * Schism is also not cute.
19:54 * Angeline hugs both the cute ponies! Known also as Schism and Ali.
19:54 * Ali isn't cute though
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20:05 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Drawfriend Stuff (Pony Art Gallery) #3793 [ https://tinyurl.com/ye6dgu7c ]
20:11 * Dappled leaves shiny ribbons out where Ali can get them.
20:11 * Ali noms on Dappled tail instead
20:12 * Dappled 's tail goes poofy again.
20:21 * Finwe hats on Ali.
20:22 <Finwe> Mlles Ali, Angeline, Schism and Tiffany.
20:22 <Finwe> Messrs Dappled, Cepheid, Librarian, Lumindia and Cyan_Spark.
20:22 * Finwe doffs himself.
20:22 <Finwe> Mr Starlight_Glimmer.
20:22 <Finwe> !starlight time
20:22 <Finwe> Starlight time! Starlight time!
20:22 * Finwe bounces around in front of Starlight_Glimmer.
20:31 <Schism> Right, someone get me a convenient bell tower.
20:32 * Angeline pounces Dappled.
20:33 * Dappled hugs Angeline!
20:33 * Angeline whinnies happily.
20:33 <Dappled> How are you?
20:33 <Angeline> I'm okay.
20:34 <Angeline> Debating trying to see if I can find a couple Lackey omnibuses on library ebook database or something
20:34 * Schism issa tired foxgirl. But will soon have less hair on her face, so issa slightly happier foxgirl than normal.
20:35 * Schism remains uncute, tho.
20:35 * Dappled hasn't read much of Lackey outside of Valdemar and those inside... I think you can trilogies as one book, but otherwise, it's individuals.
20:35 * Angeline depilates Schism's face.
20:35 <Dappled> Or her collections of published fanfiction.
20:35 * Schism yays! But yes. She's doing electrolysis on Thursday.
20:36 * Schism also puts an untitled goose on Librarian's head.
20:54 <Starlight_Glimmer> Schism: Have you ever considered growing a kangaroo pouch?
20:54 <Starlight_Glimmer> I'd like that, please :3
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21:55 * Finwe noms on Ali's Soda Dungeon.
21:58 * Ali noms on Finwe's tail
22:05 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Fanfiction: Sunrise [ https://tinyurl.com/yhu794uy ]
22:06 * Finwe tail-wiggles.
22:06 <Finwe> !plot
22:06 <DerpyBot> *wigglewiggle*
22:06 <Finwe> *wigglewiggle*
22:32 <Schism> I should see if I can find a carabiner for my keys...
22:32 <Schism> Oh well. Lunch break, going to take a walk.
22:41 <Finwe> Have a break, have a Kit Kat.
23:05 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Pony Plushie Compilation #501 [ https://tinyurl.com/ydn8nemr ]
23:15 * Lumindia gives Ali some gil to nom on
23:15 * Schism nomfs an energy drink.
23:16 * Ali noms on gil and then Lumindia
23:26 <Schism> Ali: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E9kIxOGX0AQDUF0?format=jpg&name=4096x4096
23:27 <Ali> Sadly this is not the healer role I'm used to
23:27 <Ali> In WoW, a healer NEVER DoTs or does damage spells
23:28 <Schism> Okay, these memes _CONTINUE_ to be crazypants. https://twitter.com/USCPSC/status/1430253093904584708/photo/1
23:28 <Schism> Sounds boring, Ali. >.>
23:28 <Ali> Its just what I'm used to
23:28 <Ali> I'd rather focus on keeping the party alive than dealing a total 1% damage to a mob
23:29 <Schism> FFXIV healers are more like 10%.
23:29 <Schism> Anyhoo. Back to work.
23:31 <Finwe> Ali: I don't recall there being any healers in Wizard of Wor.
23:31 <Finwe> Just yellow worrior and blue worrior.
23:31 <Ali> World of Warcraft you goof
23:31 * Ali baps Finwe
23:31 * Finwe nimbly evades the clumsy but cute bap-
23:43 * Lumindia boops Ali gently
23:43 * Lumindia carries them off for cuddles
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