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00:07 <ADragonDreaming> So there's a manga I read the other day. MC gets Isekai'd, is granted the spells "Poison, Paralysis, and Sleep" and is immediately discarded as weak. However, his versions have 100% success rate, meaning he can stunlock and kill literally anything if he can get the spell off. I bring it up because
00:07 <ADragonDreaming> effect options that are ubiquitous to RPGs are also so universally assumed to be worthless (to the point where some wrote a whole Manga around that as a premise), and how the key thing is probably *lack of feedback* when they're used.
00:07 <ADragonDreaming> it made me think about game design, how the status
00:08 <Schism> Ooh, those skills. And yeah, an isekai like that is interesting, though I prefer the ones where crafting gets turned into this monster capacity. And some of the lower-level skills, like archery, become vital... Only Sense Online was a good VRMMO story for that.
00:10 <ADragonDreaming> It's interesting, yeah - the main point I though of is that most of the time, the problem is the lack *negative* feedback when you try the skill.
00:10 <ADragonDreaming> If you attack someone with physical when you're supposed to magickal, you get a very clear "tink," usually.
00:11 <Schism> Ah, I see what you mean. And not just feedback in terms of numbers or an icon, but something more evident, like a different kind of vibration.
00:11 <ADragonDreaming> Poison or Paralyze, there's just a flat nothing, most of the time, if it doesn't work, and since they usually operate on an RNG basis to begin with, it's hard to tell the difference between "RNG hates you" and "This enemy is not susceptible"
00:13 <Schism> Hm, could show the enemy throwing off the poison or paralysis immediately.
00:13 <ADragonDreaming> Right.
00:14 <ADragonDreaming> "oh, that's not useful here, okay." And then also make it more reliable elsewhere, to make it useful enough that people want to try.
00:16 <ADragonDreaming> speaking of crafting being godly, there's one Isekai where the MC gets to play Minecraft, except in a world where that's not normal.
00:17 <Schism> Hee, that sounds kinda fun.
00:18 <Schism> In OSO, the main character chooses such a ridiculous set of skills that nobody's even considered, because their skills are ill-regarded and expected to be more trouble than they're worth. Exceeeept that then they start figuring out weird synergies.
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00:19 <ADragonDreaming> He slaps down a perfect cube of material, and the witnesses have the appropriate reactiosn of "what in the reality-breaking hell"
00:19 * Schism giggles.
00:19 <ADragonDreaming> Hmmm... I'll have to hceck that out.
00:19 <Schism> Like allowing [Hawk Eyes], a general targeting skill, to be a general targeting skill. Not just for bow and arrows, but also for enchantments, buffs, debuffs, etc. -- things which they thought could only be applied at ultra-short range.
00:20 <ADragonDreaming> "Lonely Attack on a Different World" has a similar theme of the character being saddled with a bunch of "useless" skills, but winding up being the most capable out of his bunch due to the synergy of everything and some odd usages (at least one of which is based on a Japanese idiom).
00:21 <Schism> Here's OSO. Not quite machine translated, though it's kinda wonky at times -- and quite long. I'm sure there are other translations continuing it later. https://krytykal.org/dropped/only-sense/
00:22 <ADragonDreaming> oh, light novel
00:22 <ADragonDreaming> *?
00:22 <Schism> Yah. There's a manga version, but I don't know how far it's gone.
00:25 <Schism> Poor MC, though. Their character winds up female due to a glitch in the system, though they decide to simply roll with it after a short while.
00:27 <ADragonDreaming> Not their original, eh? There's a few like that, with varying levels of acceptance.
00:28 <Schism> Yeah, this one's more neutral, though, just grumbling and reminding their friends and sisters, "I'm a guy, you know." Also, this is much more laid-back. No getting trapped in the world, no weird death game nonsense, no suddenly being transported. Just VRMMO fun.
00:33 <ADragonDreaming> I can't find it now, I must not have added it to the MangaDex reading list, but there's one I ran across which tickled with the MC's naming sense.
00:33 <ADragonDreaming> Plot is the whole "VRMMO becomes real" thing, with various players transported into the world itself as their characters.
00:34 <ADragonDreaming> The MC in particular was an endgame legendary player (as is par for the course), with an avatar based on the classic Dignified Bearded Wizard ... name Dumbalf Gandadore.
00:34 <Schism> Oh! I've seen that one.
00:35 <Schism> And then they turn into a young-seeming woman.
00:35 <ADragonDreaming> yes.
00:35 <ADragonDreaming> But it took me a bit to get what Dumbalf Gandadore was.
00:35 <Schism> All because they kinda conked out when they were adjusting their character's image.
00:35 <Schism> Hehe.
00:35 <Schism> I think that was named something like "She was the disciple of the great sage".
00:36 <ADragonDreaming> And when the penny dropped: "wait. holy crap, that's exactly the name someone's MMO wizard character would have."
00:36 <ADragonDreaming> And then everyone in universe is talking of the legendary Dumbalf Gandadore with an absolutely straight face.
00:36 <Schism> Yeah, here we have it. https://mangakakalot.com/read-xc0ux158504848745
00:37 <ADragonDreaming> yeah, that's it. Thanks!
00:38 * Schism doffs her chili. o3o
00:39 <Schism> Adra: Hehe. I like how the players are all like, "Okay, we should experiment and learn what the basic Senses do." And then when the MC takes Linguistics, they're all, "...wait, this library is an in-game manual."
00:39 <Schism> Though experimentation is _still_ vital.
00:41 <ADragonDreaming> Oh, so they took the power that lets them RTFM?
00:41 <Schism> Basically. Which should _really_ be a superpower in more novels.
00:42 <ADragonDreaming> It kind of is already.
00:42 <ADragonDreaming> Think about it - most Isekai's include something that acts as a helper function / manual for the MC.
00:42 <ADragonDreaming> Rimuru has Great Sage / Raphael, without which he'd have perished very early on.
00:43 <Schism> True enough. Though in many such novels, there's also the fact that the MC has to be smart enough to ask.
00:43 <ADragonDreaming> Spider has her UI and the Appraise skill
00:43 <ADragonDreaming> "Appraise" shows up in a lot of places, actually, and serves as the background key to everything
00:45 * Schism noddles. "Especially if it evolves into something more profound, like [Blacksmith's Intuition] or [Mana Sense].
00:47 <Schism> Adra: A particularly good one on RoyalRoad, if you're into the novel approach, is A Dragon Idol's Reincarnation Tale.
00:48 <Schism> MC basically gets screwed over by _all_ the gods in some manner or another, winds up in a forest, and has to hunt and kill her way out of it with a schoolteacher who was likewise reborn (the former as a dragon, the latter as a garm) -- while the 'vaunted heroes' are all being carefully groomed for some thing or another.
00:49 <Schism> That's the start, anyway. It gets a bit more involved from there, as such stories do. And eventually the dreaded politics gets into it -- but she keeps hoping that she'll fulfill her dream of being an idol.
00:49 <ADragonDreaming> heehee
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00:53 <LunaNightwind> lol
00:54 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Nightly Discussion #2665 [ https://tinyurl.com/yjsmy66w ]
00:56 <Schism> "This item will answer any relevant query." "Ooh, what are the three sizes of {name}?" [Orb vanishes in a puff of smoke.]
00:58 <ADragonDreaming> "The key word is 'relevant.'"
00:58 <Schism> Anything game-related, at least. Library dungeon, it either gives a scanning consumable, or a general information consumable.
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01:04 <Schism> I'd forgotten, then the MC gets into synthesizing mobs and it's all too cute.
01:07 <Schism> Never get a crafter upset at you. <3
01:15 * LunaNightwind flops
01:18 * Schism flumps.
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02:39 * Ali flops over Schism cause target is gone
02:57 <Schism> 2mg tonight...
02:57 <Schism> Bit early, better than none at all...
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03:14 * Schism will finish up her cookies and then... probably collapse into a sobbling ball of failure. That's how these weeks are going.
03:29 * Ali pat pats Schism and gives brushies?
03:29 * Schism shakes her head. She wants to finish up these peanut butter cookies and then get some sleep, maybe.
03:29 <Schism> I was hoping for a relaxing vacation...
03:30 <Schism> I should know better than to hope.
03:30 <Ali> Now now, dun't get into a depression dump
03:30 * Ali gives Schism hugs
03:31 <Schism> Can't help it. Have to go visit my mother tomorrow, which is both good and bad, because last time I spoke with her she decided that I was at fault for the bruise taking up half my right arm.
03:31 <Schism> But she hasn't seen it...
03:31 <Ali> Understandable
03:31 <Ali> Just....don't be so hard on yourself
03:31 <Schism> I'll.. try not to be.
03:31 <Schism> I think that's the most that can be said here.
03:31 <Ali> I know its not easy
03:32 <Ali> I have to try and help my mother deal with constant depression. I can only try to say things that can encourage to not give up
03:32 <Schism> I'm not going to give up, and I'm certainly not going to drop into self-harm.
03:33 <Schism> But sometimes it's hard not to just want to curl up into a ball and ignore the world.
03:33 <Ali> Yes I do understand it
03:33 <Ali> Been in a bout of depression myself once.
03:33 <Ali> You sometimes have to be sad yes, but learn to let it go on the next day and not let it compound
03:34 <Schism> And thanks, Ali. I promise, it's not going to be ... that.
03:34 <Ali> Still just trying to say something...if anything that can help
03:34 <Schism> It does help, a lot. Thank you.
03:34 * Schism hugs the cute unicorn.
03:34 * Ali isn't cute though! :P
03:35 * Schism smiles, and giggles a bit. "Take it just this once."
03:35 * Ali pats. "One thing I can't let go dear."
03:35 <Schism> So, one last batch of PB cookies... well, probably half batch, soon, and then I can sleep.
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03:37 <Ali> Just try to fight the bad thoughts for awhile longer then
03:37 * Ali pats the Schism more
03:38 <Schism> At least I know the cookies will be alright.
03:38 <Schism> Hard to mess up peanut butter cookies. And the chili should be a hit. And... stuff.
03:38 <Ali> I tried hoisen sauce with pork tonight
03:39 <Schism> Hope that was alright...?
03:40 <Ali> I think? But pork is a stubborn thing for me as we can NEVER get the same cut size
03:40 <Ali> So I always undercook the stupid thing at first...and it pisses me off
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05:07 <Schism> Ali: It's impossible to get the same pill cut every time with this damned CTA, too...
05:07 <Ali> CTA?
05:08 <Schism> CyproTerone Acetate.
05:09 <Schism> The part of the regimen that's literally 'anti-boyotics' -- it's a t-blocker. And the pills come in 50mg, wherein the daily dose is 12.5.
05:09 <Schism> So, yay for quartering by hand, or even with a knife.
05:10 <Schism> Pills are _also_ about 4mm in size.
05:11 <Ali> Ah yes, pills are a pain to cut, even in half, let alone another half
05:11 <Schism> Okay, fine, 6mm diameter.
05:14 <Schism> I am one of the lucky ones, at least. Studies have shown comparatively little difference in shutdown between 10mg and 15mg, and all told it's the same ostensibly liver damage all around. (so looking forward to a full orchi in a few months if at all possible.)
05:14 <Schism> ostensible*
05:17 <Ali> Orchi?
05:17 <Schism> The inevitable deballing.
05:18 <Schism> The AFAB variant would be a hysterectomy.
05:19 <Schism> Or... -*blink*- Might have to ask my cousin. Is it a histi?
05:19 * Ali unicorn shrugs
05:19 <Schism> He'd certainly know more about that side of things than I.
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05:57 <Finwe> Morning, my perissodactyls of minute stature.
05:58 <Finwe> Mlles Ali and Schism; Messrs AppleDash, Cepheid, Dappled, Lumindia, and PinkieShy.
05:58 <Finwe> Oh, and Miss Tiffany.
05:58 * Ali noms Finwe tail
05:58 * Finwe doffs his hat.
05:59 * Finwe tail-wiggles.
05:59 <Finwe> !plot
05:59 <DerpyBot> *wigglewiggle*
05:59 <Finwe> *wigglewiggle*
06:06 * Finwe hats on Schism.
06:06 <Tiffany> Morning for you, finwe ^^
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06:46 <ConfusionRift> Hello everypony.
06:47 <Finwe> Lt Cdr ConfusionRift, Capt Koopz.
06:47 <Finwe> o7
06:47 <ConfusionRift> RAdm. Finwe. (salutes)
06:48 <Tiffany> Hi confusion
06:49 <ConfusionRift> Hey there. (waves)
06:49 * Schism looks around her slightly cleaner apartment.
06:50 <Schism> It's not that much cleaner. I'm afraid to move around it, lest I get struck around the arms, neck and head again.
06:50 <Schism> Can't be too loud! That's causing a disturbance.
06:53 * ConfusionRift brings a tuba.
06:55 <Schism> I'm sorry. All that I can say is that this is not a healthy state of mind in which to be.
06:56 <ConfusionRift> It was more jokingly, but alright.
06:56 * Finwe noms on svartbröd, cream cheese with salmon and yoghurt.
06:56 <Schism> I understand. Sorry, this hasn't been a good week or two. I was hoping to have a vacation...
06:56 * Finwe offers some to Schism.
06:56 <ConfusionRift> Oh, blarg.
06:57 * Schism shakes her head. "I'm sorry. I'm not hungry."
06:57 <Schism> And isn't that a statement...
06:57 <Koopz> RAdm. Finwe o7
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07:06 <Finwe> Mr Golden.
07:06 * Finwe doffs his hat.
07:06 <Golden> Hey
07:09 * Dappled flops.
07:09 * Finwe flips.
07:10 <Dappled> How is everyone doing tonight?
07:11 <Koopz> freezin
07:12 * Dappled gives Koopz more blankets.
07:12 <ConfusionRift> Doing alright. Just chillin'.
07:12 <Koopz> i want blankets at work
07:13 <Koopz> or a working radiator
07:13 <Koopz> :k
07:13 <Dappled> Work should not be freezing.
07:13 * Dappled bites Koopz's boss.
07:13 <Schism> Not good. I'm just... going to try and get three hours' sleep and hopefully wake up then...
07:13 <Koopz> my boss skedaddled off into bulgaria with his trailer
07:14 <Dappled> Deserves bites for sure.
07:14 * Dappled hopes Schism is feeling better int eh morning.
07:14 <Schism> I don't think I will...
07:14 <Schism> But hopefully a few days where I don't feel like I'm going to be attacked for speaking too loudly will help.
07:24 <Finwe> Dappled: I'm doing rather well this fine morning.
07:25 * Dappled hugs all the friend ponies.
07:25 * Finwe snuggles Dappled.
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07:45 <Koopz> heater has been activated
07:45 * Dappled huzzahs.
07:45 <Koopz> now we wait xD
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10:55 <RazorSharpFang> Yee
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12:59 <Tiffany> Good night, ponies
13:03 <ConfusionRift> Laters, and have a good one.
13:12 <Arion> Rest well.
14:01 <Schism> Local foxgirl has Monster again...
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16:17 <Finwe> Lt Pony|30507, Miss Ali, Mr somininin.
16:17 <Finwe> o7
16:18 <somininin> hola
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16:24 <Finwe> !plot
16:24 <DerpyBot> *wigglewiggle*
16:25 <Finwe> *wigglewiggle*
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21:01 <Tiffany> Arch has kernel update. See ya later :)
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21:07 <Finwe> o3o
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21:09 * Dappled can't find his DS case that has all pokemon games in it but Plat, cause thats in the console.
21:10 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: MLP A New Generation in a Nutshell [ https://tinyurl.com/yfaemmhe ]
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21:18 * Dappled found it. It was inside of my webcam box behind my computer table. Why and how? Who knows.
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21:32 * Ali curls on the Dappled
21:33 * Dappled brushies Ali. Feels better now that he has all his pokemon back.
21:34 * Ali nods, unicorn hasn't touched her switch in doesn't know how long now.
21:40 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: A Look at the Logo Design for Generation 5 From Oli Frape [ https://tinyurl.com/yzah3a5j ]
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21:50 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Gillian Berrow Explains Zipp and Pipp's Royal Positions, Imalou Deep Dives Into the History of Sprout! [ https://tinyurl.com/yhmvf4ts ]
21:51 * Dappled should get around to watching that movie.
21:51 * Dappled lays on Ali mroe.
21:51 <Dappled> more.
21:51 * Ali brushies Dappled lots, its ok.
21:51 * Finwe noms on Tiffany's kernel.
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22:06 <Tiffany> Finwe: 😮
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22:11 * Dappled chews on the box because his pc doesn't show the character.
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23:09 <LunaNightwind> hi
23:10 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Drawfriend - Equestria Girls / Anthro MLP Art Gallery #331 [ https://tinyurl.com/yeor62lk ]
23:25 <Tiffany> Hello lunanightwind
23:25 <LunaNightwind> hi hi tiffany
23:25 <Tiffany> How are you?
23:25 <LunaNightwind> cold
23:25 <LunaNightwind> hbu
23:28 <Tiffany> I'm fine too
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