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00:17 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Movie Blindbag Set and NEW G1 on Entertainment Earth [ http://tinyurl.com/mn9ax2t ]
00:18 <SaultSteMarie> Thinking about playing C3 a bit too but the creature designs in those uh
00:18 <SaultSteMarie> weirds me out a lot
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01:42 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Story Updates - May 16th [ http://tinyurl.com/mshzzcc ]
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01:50 <PonyZx> Hi
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01:53 <PonyZx> GG Tempo
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01:53 <PonyZx> Lol, hi Tempo
01:53 <Tempo> ?
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01:54 <Tempo> Well that was annoying.
01:54 <PonyZx> GG is Git Gud
01:55 <Tempo> I think I've also seen it used in a way to also mean good game
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01:55 <Tempo> So I suppose it's meaning is based on context. Though my initial confusion was at my name being mentioned so randomly.
01:55 <PonyZx> yep
01:59 <PonyZx> o,o every day i come is more quiet ths chat
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02:13 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Nightly Discussion #1079 [ http://tinyurl.com/m3sfrkc ]
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02:21 <ADragonDreaming> Pickles.
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02:40 <Bubble-Berry> Zone of the Enders: The Second Runner is the greatest game of all time
02:40 <Bubble-Berry> That is all
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02:54 <Gladiolus> that's not how you spell ace combat 5
02:56 * Thelema5 consults the dictionary
02:56 <Thelema5> Nope!
02:56 * Schism flies past Bubble-Berry in a remarkable frame. "Option. Option. Option."
02:57 <Schism> What are you doing with Jehuty!
02:58 <Bubble-Berry> Is it bad I found the Vic Viper fight way harder than even the final Anubis fight?
02:58 <Schism> Nah, Leo is a serious pain in the tail, and for good reason.
02:58 <Bubble-Berry> Like it took me hours to beat Leo. It took me maybe 30 minutes to beat Nohman.
02:59 * Gladiolus licks Thelema5
02:59 <Bubble-Berry> Gladiolus you should play Zone of the Enders: The Second Runner
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02:59 <Schism> That fight does, at least, have one of the best themes in the game.
02:59 <Bubble-Berry> It's probably better than Ace Combat 5
02:59 * Thelema5 tastes of valerian root
03:00 <Bubble-Berry> Well, I personally think the main theme is one of the best themes in gaming
03:00 <Sombra> Can't have any Valerian root
03:00 <Sombra> Exaserbates panic
03:00 <Thelema5> I find that it helps me sleep
03:00 <Bubble-Berry> Remember when they played an orchestral version when you shot down the warships?
03:00 <Bubble-Berry> Singlehandedly?
03:00 <Thelema5> Panic is no fun
03:01 <Bubble-Berry> Isn't Valerian a French comic?
03:01 <Thelema5> It is, with an epic feature film due out soon
03:02 <Thelema5> I don't know why they named the thing after a medicinal plant which smells like spoiled cheese
03:03 <Thelema5> But the movie looks exciting
03:05 <Thelema5> If you haven't already seen the trailer you look it up
03:05 <Thelema5> *should
03:08 <Schism> Valerian root was once considered a vital part of many a panacea. Nowadays, a lot of very gullible people take it as a supplement for things they don't actually have.
03:08 <Schism> Whether that equates to the feature film in any way, shape or form, I can't honestly say.
03:10 <Thelema5> It is demonstrated to act as a mild sedative
03:10 <Schism> There are better and less disruptive sedatives. Diphenhydrinate works pretty well.
03:11 <Bubble-Berry> Maybe it's because the movie is a mild sedative
03:11 <Thelema5> That gives me night sweats XD
03:12 <Schism> Oh yeah, Thelema5, did you hit up a doctor?
03:12 <Thelema5> No, but I picked up some potassium supplements as you suggested
03:13 <Thelema5> I just hope I can get some sleep tonight- I've been awake for two days
03:13 * Schism nods, even if that's just a small part of things.
03:14 <Thelema5> Going to bed now. Goodnight everybody!
03:14 <Schism> Sleep well.
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03:16 <SaultSteMarie> what does valerian root taste like
03:16 <SaultSteMarie> oh i nee dto actually play ZoE 2 sometime
03:16 <SaultSteMarie> wait
03:17 <SaultSteMarie> oh right yeah i have that one
03:17 <SaultSteMarie> I keep forgetting which PS2 games I have because... I have entirely too many
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03:18 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Tara Strong's Pony Reference in Injustice 2 [ http://tinyurl.com/kyuly5h ]
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03:33 <Schism> A man in Ephrata, PA fled the scene earlier today after robbing a convenience store at gunpoint - while wearing a Creeper costume from Minecraft.
03:33 <Schism> Witnesses did not report if the man was hissing.
03:34 <Tirek> "That'ssss some nice casssh registersss you have. It'd be a ssshame if they were empty."
03:39 <Snapai> I must be tired. I am suddenly feeling like animating or whatever.
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04:02 <Jackie> Isn't it sad that I don't get more notes after this post https://jackiethefilly.tumblr.com/post/156796143911/jackiethefilly-i-did-all-this-for-some-artist
04:03 * Schism peers at pixellated pony #4. "That looks like a Heartbreak."
04:04 <Schism> Tho even if it is sad, you're still a great artist.
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04:15 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by ExplodingPonyToast: Music: Segments Of Life - I Destroyed, I Created [Electronic Metal] [ http://tinyurl.com/kuu39pa ]
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04:49 <Starwatcher> Tori?
04:49 <Starwatcher> toriel?
04:49 <Tori> Hey
04:50 <Starwatcher> heheh
04:50 <Starwatcher> toriel is awesome
04:50 <Tori> I understand the reference but I have never actually played Undertale.
04:51 <Jackie> Random people joining
04:52 <Tori> I've been here before
04:52 <Tori> Many times actually
04:52 <Braixen> i havve toriel under my ns
04:53 <Tori> It's just been awhile.
04:56 * Schism giggles. "An ex-supervillain becomes a new art teacher at the equivalent of Mutant High. Naturally, the wannabe superheroes amongst the class decide that she's a Terrible Threat To All That Is, and seek to find out what her true aim is, and foil her sinister plot. Except that she's a student of Tex Avery, Mel Brooks, and Stephen Spielberg."
04:59 <Jackie> It sucks that I lack quality friends on facebook
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05:00 * Filly_Nightmares berps and applies Arch Linux to Schism!
05:01 <Tori> I remember some names on here.
05:01 * Filly_Nightmares ees
05:01 * Filly_Nightmares eeeeeeeees
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05:02 <Filly_Nightmares> I really love how Linux doesn't need to be restarted at all unless it's something weird like fstab to work properly.
05:03 <Filly_Nightmares> But I can't make the switch to it as my main driver for games and a few other things. :<
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05:04 <Tori> I've honestly never used Linux
05:05 <Filly_Nightmares> It's really gud.
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05:05 <Filly_Nightmares> I used Debian and Arch Linux and I wuv Butter uni!
05:05 <Tori> Actually I've only used Windows.
05:06 <Filly_Nightmares> I've used iOS, OS X, Windows 98, XP, Vista, 7, 8, 8.1, and 10, Android, and Debian and Arch Linux. :>
05:06 * uni groans and flops
05:06 * Filly_Nightmares lays on Butter and kneads.
05:06 <uni> I had such a nice dream with a brother who loved me
05:09 * Filly_Nightmares wuvs Butter!
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05:24 <Starwatcher> I feel alone and cold
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05:29 * Schism sets up a trap for Filly_Nightmares' return. It is comprised of olives, garlic, and a little lemon juice.
05:30 * Filly_Nightmares sniff sniffs the air and noses her way to the food.
05:30 * Schism also provides a flatbread on which to nom the aioli.
05:30 * Filly_Nightmares nom nom nomfs it all!
05:30 * uni wuvs Surry too!
05:31 <uni> I dunno, it just felt so real and so nice
05:33 <Jackie> I suck at playing flightgear
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05:38 * Filly_Nightmares nibbles on Jackie.
05:38 <Filly_Nightmares> I have those kinda of dreams too, Butter.
05:38 * uni whimpers, misses it
05:38 <Jackie> Did anyone here tried out flightgear?
05:39 <uni> nope
05:40 <Filly_Nightmares> I haven't heard of it until now.
05:41 <Jackie> It's the most realistic flight sims
05:41 <Filly_Nightmares> I wonder if you can land a helicopter without the engine on in that game.
05:41 <Filly_Nightmares> It's possible in the real world due to auto rotation.
05:41 * uni sniffles and hugs Surry tightly
05:42 <Jackie> Flying a boeing is hard
05:42 * Filly_Nightmares curls up around Uni.
05:42 <Filly_Nightmares> Yas
05:43 <Jackie> There is this silly aircraft where's you're a man using a glider
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05:44 <Filly_Nightmares> Yas, the hang glider
05:44 <Jackie> The most lightweight model for my potato heh
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05:45 <Jackie> Filly_Nightmares: Wouldn't that be a disaster if i crashed on a city
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05:48 <Filly_Nightmares> o3o
05:48 * Filly_Nightmares rolls and crashes into Jackie!
05:49 <Jackie> Also it takes a while to install FG
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05:51 * Schism decides to play a round or two of Pac-Man 256. "Evil game. Evil. But it's fun."
05:55 <CleverDerpy> I has a potato
05:57 * Starwatcher shuffles on his hooves
05:57 * CleverDerpy pets Starwatcher and is static shocked, whimpers
05:59 <Starwatcher> ?
05:59 * Starwatcher droops his ears and hugs Derpy
05:59 <Starwatcher> is sorry =(
06:00 <CleverDerpy> is oki
06:00 <CleverDerpy> it's not hurty anymore
06:00 * Starwatcher has a fuzzy coat and gets charged up easily
06:00 <CleverDerpy> but on the plus side, I held a potato when I got shocked, and the clock it was attached to worked~
06:01 <CleverDerpy> i think your shock reset it
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06:07 <Starwatcher> haaa
06:17 <Starwatcher> hi DinkyDoo
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06:18 * Filly_Nightmares nibbles on her mango and hats on Ali
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06:19 <RazorSharpFang> Hmm
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06:29 <ConfusionRift> Hello everypony.
06:29 <Starwatcher> hi cr
06:29 <Starwatcher> what's new
06:30 <ConfusionRift> Not much is new. The usual mess. (shrugs)
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06:33 <Starwatcher> bye, Filly nightmares
06:34 <iandalton> Hello everypony
06:35 <Schism> Okay, I'm done beating my head against that endless maze. Though... how the blazes did I somehow get 7,220 points on my second try, yet be unable to beat that?
06:35 <iandalton> My brand new contacts scratched my cornea :-(
06:35 <Schism> Eeee. You got eyedrops? ._.
06:35 <DinkyDoo> Hi Starwatcher
06:36 <iandalton> Yeah. I switched contacts a week ago, and it seemed like the new lenses had a problem. I went without contacts for a week just to be sure, and I tried them again today, and my eye got scratched again.
06:37 <DinkyDoo> I just use glasses
06:37 <iandalton> I used to use glasses, but I switched a couple years ago.
06:37 <iandalton> I really like contacts.
06:37 <DinkyDoo> They work flawlessly lol unless I sit on them :p that would be bad
06:37 <DinkyDoo> iandalton I don't switch cus 2 factors.
06:38 <iandalton> They were making the bridge of my nose uncomfortable by the end of the day.
06:38 <DinkyDoo> One only one pair ever needed if you take good care of them!
06:38 <Schism> Me, can't stand contacts. Maybe they'd be fine, but... I just can't get over the idea of putting something on my eye like that.
06:38 <DinkyDoo> Two I'm lazy and putting and pulling something from eye everyday is to much work
06:38 <Schism> ^!
06:38 <iandalton> DinkyDoo glasses get scratched over time. Even though I think I took pretty good care of them, I did eventually get new glasses.
06:38 <iandalton> But the new ones were heavier and uncomfortable, so that's when I went and tried contacts
06:38 <DinkyDoo> I still got my original pair
06:39 <Schism> Glasses also have the benefit of providing one with transitions lenses, which are a blessing if one's mildly photophobic like me.
06:39 <DinkyDoo> From like 4 years ago
06:39 <iandalton> putting contacts in isn't a lot of work, takes 5 seconds
06:39 <DinkyDoo> My grandfather has had his for 22 years same damn pair. He just takes them in every year to get ajusted make sure the frames are good
06:40 <iandalton> wow my prescription doesn't stay stable over a long time
06:40 <DinkyDoo> And involves dropping something on your eye. I seculate that over time this would lead to a lack of "oh god! Something is coming near my eye! *Slams eyelids*" reactions
06:41 <DinkyDoo> But I'm not going to test my hypothesis
06:42 <iandalton> no, I haven't had any change in reflexes
06:42 <iandalton> obviously when I put contacts in, I'm holding the lid open
06:42 <iandalton> otherwise I'd keep blinking and be unable to get it in
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06:47 * Ali snugs up on CleverDerpy
06:51 * ConfusionRift shakes Schism.
06:51 * Schism wobbles. "Whaaa?"
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06:52 <ConfusionRift> I dunno, just felt like it. :P
06:52 <Schism> Meh. :P
06:53 <Schism> I should perhaps play more Pac-Man 256, but... I know that if I start it back up I won't emerge until at least a half hour later.
06:54 <ConfusionRift> More Space Engineers, wait for Nier to fully update, Factorio, clean the wifle, or just burn time?
06:55 <ConfusionRift> Hmmmmmm.
06:55 <Schism> Maybe Factorio. Always good to stabilize and optimize a process.
06:57 * Ali wakka wakka wakka's towards ConfusionRift
06:58 <ConfusionRift> Man, I have the Championship Edition. Had it since forever, and have not played it yet.
07:01 <Schism> The Championship Edition is all well and good, and excellent in and of itself, but 256 is actually really, really neat in how it's handled. I genuinely hate Pinky, though. Freakin' blob runs at you at a ridiculous clip.
07:01 * Ali noms on Schism ear
07:02 * Schism eats a power pellet, then noms on Ali in turn.
07:02 <ConfusionRift> Supposedly it's a glitched, extended, and altered version. Correct?
07:02 <Black_Rose> hmm?
07:02 <Black_Rose> namco
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07:02 * Ali ish not a ghost so it doesn't effect her.
07:03 <Schism> Not exactly. You wind up going through the maze from bottom to top, as a Kill Screen advances upon you. Along the path, you get powerups, fruit (which gives a score multiplier), coins, and power pellets.
07:04 <Schism> As you play, you unlock abilities which then go into your 'most common' loadout, and appear on the board at various points.
07:04 <Schism> For example, Bombs power you up for a few seconds, and destroy the area around you when you run into a ghost.
07:06 <Schism> Other powerups give you better fruit, extra speed, stealth, that sort of thing. Or you can just go for the pellets, which let you nomf down upon ghosts.
07:07 <Schism> Also, as you progress through the maze, the longer you chain your way through dots, the better.
07:07 <Schism> But if you miss one, the chain ends and you're back to 0.
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07:08 <ConfusionRift> I like that they do callbacks to the arcade and 3d releases.
07:09 <ConfusionRift> Once again, on hold. That queue list is getting bigger. Besides, it's an arcade game. :P
07:09 <Schism> Namco-Bandai have their faults, but they're a pretty good publisher and they seem to be providing their players with what they want.
07:09 <ConfusionRift> They're reinforcing the nostalgia train.
07:09 <Schism> CR: >.> But you can just play a round or two of Pac-Man, then get back to what you were doing. Just a round. Maybe two or three.
07:10 <ConfusionRift> Or four or five. Maybe six or seven. ... wait...
07:10 <Schism> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUAYeN3Rp2E
07:10 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.
07:10 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Chicago 25 Or 6 To 4
07:11 <ConfusionRift> So that's the name of that song.
07:11 <Schism> It's a classic favourite.
07:14 <Schism> "How the hell many tricks do you have up that sleeve of yours?!" "I'm a changeling. My thaumic buffers are pretty limited, so I've had to diversify." "So you're not telling." "Would you tell me everything you know?" "Point."
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07:18 * Moonlightning giggles at Schism.
07:20 <ConfusionRift> But seriously, despite their constant nostalgia rain, they pull it off well.
07:20 <Schism> They really do. A certain company starting with 'K' and ending in 'onami' should take lessons.
07:21 <ConfusionRift> Oh. That dead shell of a company? I suppose so. Then again, wasn't really a fan of their work.
07:22 <iandalton> Schism what fanfic are you reading nowaday? That dialogue's writing style looks familiar.
07:22 <iandalton> or is it something you wrote?
07:22 <Schism> That was actually an original clip from my brain.
07:22 <iandalton> no wonder
07:22 <Schism> CR: Eh, if they put their profits into making more Castlevania, Metal Gear or Silent Hill titles which actually fit their previous standard of excellence, they would be much better off than just a purveyor of pachinko products.
07:23 <ConfusionRift> I think the one and only thing I liked from that company was Castlevania (classics), and Gradius... sorta.
07:23 <iandalton> ConfusionRift that's two things
07:23 <ConfusionRift> Oh well. Castlevania is now going by its own. :P
07:23 <iandalton> Our chief weapon is supplies and fear...
07:23 <Schism> iandalton: Need to write more of Mancala. Knowing me, though, I'm likely to pour 20,000 words into it and then start over.
07:23 <iandalton> surprise*
07:24 <ConfusionRift> You are right... I'm derping already.
07:24 <iandalton> our two weapons are fear and surprise...and rutheless efficiency...
07:24 <Schism> And lovely red uniforms --oh, forget it.
07:24 * ConfusionRift silently snirks.
07:24 <Schism> ConfusionRift: Here, you start this time.
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07:25 <ConfusionRift> We-we are... eerm...
07:25 <Schism> The Spanish...
07:25 <ConfusionRift> Yes, The Spanish... eerm...
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07:26 * Schism sighs, "In-qui-si-tion..."
07:26 <ConfusionRift> Oh yes, the Spanish Inquisition... and... eeerm...
07:26 <Schism> Weapons?
07:26 <Schism> Oh, forget it, we'll come back another day.
07:26 <ConfusionRift> Yes, and our weapons are...
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07:26 <iandalton> by the way, can anyoneby chance recommend a documentary about the cuban revolution? My friend and I started watching Che on Netflix, but it seems to expect that the viewer already has some knowledge of that era
07:27 <ConfusionRift> I don't remember there being one. If there is, it's probably in Spanish.
07:28 <iandalton> well this one is in Spanish, with English subs
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07:29 <ConfusionRift> Also, Che was made as a film like most films based in events. They expect the viewer to already know the event to enjoy.
07:29 <Schism> I... honestly haven't ever heard of one. It could be said that Che Guevara's Marxist tendencies led to a dearth of films in the Western market about his rise and summary execution, lest they be tainted with red.
07:29 <iandalton> indeed
07:30 <iandalton> but I really want something about the cuban revolution in general
07:30 <Schism> Also, Cuba being a small state rather than a major European country means that very few people had an interest in its affairs until the crisis...
07:31 <iandalton> ConfusionRift there are some good historical films made in the west about marxist or other revolutionary leftists, such as Reds (the russian revolution) and Land and Freedom (the Spanish civil war)
07:31 <iandalton> and they're accessible to people who don't know the history
07:31 <ConfusionRift> I'm aware.
07:34 <ConfusionRift> I just don't know of any. There may be a documentary about Cuba before, during, and after the madness. I just don't know where.
07:34 <iandalton> looks like there are a couple on youtube. I don't know if they're good but I'll check them out.
07:35 <Schism> One of the more contested sources of details on the Cuban Revolution is this book, which writes from a self-admitted Marxist/Trotskyist perspective. https://www.amazon.com/s?search-alias=stripbooks&field-isbn=0873485599 - it seems a bit less than popular, and I can't possibly imagine why... but it might be worth examining the situation from that standpoint.
07:36 * ConfusionRift shrugs.
07:36 <ConfusionRift> What's with the interest anyways?
07:36 <CleverDerpy> derp?
07:37 <iandalton> well my friend and I have been on a documentary kick lately, and we came across Che on Netflix. I don't know anything about that period of history, and thought it would be a good introduction, but instead it assumes you already know a lot
07:37 <iandalton> so I was left somewhat disappointed
07:37 <Schism> On a global scale, it's worth paying attention to the uprisings and political movements of smaller nations and the replacement of one political situation with another, especially in an era plagued by volatility.
07:38 <iandalton> I know a lot more european history than latin american. I should fix that.
07:38 <iandalton> I also know a fair bit of east asian history.
07:38 <ConfusionRift> They tried taking the fire out with gasoline. That's about it.
07:39 <iandalton> you mentioned trotsky, I know he fled to latin america, influenced politics there, and was killed with an ice-pick, but that's about all I know about him or his ideas
07:39 <Schism> It also helps to note that Cuba's situation brought with it a whole host of consequences regarding the Cold War, and was a startling example of realpolitik in the US and USSR.
07:40 <Schism> Whether agents provocateur played a hand in the Cuban Revolution remains debated, I believe.
07:40 <Schism> Or at least, the extent of their influence does.
07:40 <iandalton> agents provocateur = false flag?
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07:41 <Schism> Not exactly. More people sent to a situation to provoke it into inflammation.
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07:43 <ConfusionRift> The Cold War did cause a lot of pain, and that include the changes in Cuba and P.R.
07:43 <ConfusionRift> Well, the smaller islands in general, since they were basically forts and ports.
07:44 <Schism> Being sovereign nations in and of themselves, but heavily influenced by outside affairs, means that the cold war became very hot within their borders.
07:44 <Schism> You can't truly look at the causes of the Cuban Revolution without also considering the state of world affairs at that time.
07:45 <ConfusionRift> You're in a small island with little to no influence. You don't have much of a choice.
07:45 <ConfusionRift> Those scars still run deep to this day.
07:46 <Schism> Mm. And it doesn't help one whit that until recently, the US rendered numerous Cuban exports illegal or heavily taxed under tariffs.
07:46 <Schism> NATO restrictions thereof can't have helped anyone.
07:47 <ConfusionRift> It's giving me kind of a headache....
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07:48 <Schism> That's all that cigar smoke. But yeah, let's hold off. This isn't exactly a hot-button topic, but it is still political.
07:49 <Schism> It's nice that we had a respectable conversation about world affairs, though, without it exploding into flames and chaos.
07:49 <ConfusionRift> I was gonna mention... you do know that some of the export costs were also instilled by the Cuban government, right?
07:50 <Schism> Yeah, though... I wonder how many of those were just concessions.
07:51 * ConfusionRift shrugs.
07:51 <iandalton> Schism David Hume thought that history was the proper field to study human nature, because it's removed from the present day enough to be uncontaminated by strong feelings, but still more involved in human affairs than cold philosophy
07:51 <Schism> I guess it's impossible to really say. I'm sure that many of the associated documents were burned, and then their ash scattered to the four winds.
07:52 <GadgetSteamhoof> Hey guys sorry to interject but I'm looking to hire an artist for a tabletop game I have in development. If you're interested, please check this post :) http://forum.deviantart.com/jobs/offers/2300181/
07:52 <ConfusionRift> Or they never made it out.
07:52 <Schism> Yup.
07:52 <ConfusionRift> Artists? I know there were a few here, but I think they're busy at the moment.
07:52 <Schism> iandalton: In that regard, I disagree with Humean philosophy, as there is no lens by which to view history save the one we're given.
07:53 <iandalton> Schism I think what Hume meant was that we aren't personally invested in what happened so long ago, compared to discussing current affairs
07:55 <Schism> But that's just it. Current affairs tint that lens: for example, we can't view the slave trade from Africa without a shudder of revulsion. And how current affairs, and our own lives, influence those events which we read is evident when you look at the tale of Sodom and Gomorrah. That tale meant something very different a few hundred years ago.
07:56 <DinkyDoo> Yes there is another lense Schism
07:56 <Schism> Although we're not personally invested, we invest our societial leanings into those tales we read.
07:56 <DinkyDoo> It's call the crazy crackpots that people don't talk about :p
07:56 <iandalton> I agree, but there's a difference in arguing politics at the local pub, and arguing history of 150 years ago at the same venue
07:57 <iandalton> one is much more likely to lead to a fist fight
07:57 <DinkyDoo> History
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07:58 <DinkyDoo> For example. People whould like to think "America has a history of perserving freedom and justice"
07:58 <Schism> Eh. You get folks arguing about the constitution... but you're mostly right. The idea that historical documents could have multiple interpretations is pretty well-accepted. Also, I fear that a fistfight between Ben Franklin and George Washington would result in the loss of the former.
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07:59 <ConfusionRift> History is history. One can learn from it, probably amend from it, or even repeat it. But that's about it. Also, we're talking about events that still have its effect. So, in the end, it's always a gray zone.
07:59 <Schism> However, I would greatly like to see Voltaire and Jonathan Swift in a bar fight.
07:59 <iandalton> so Hume saw the distance we have to different subjects as going like this: first, current affairs, next, history, and furthest, philosophy
07:59 <DinkyDoo> The reality is must darker. Filled with countless broken promises the wholesale and purposeful destruction of entire cultures
08:00 <iandalton> although there is even the occasional fight over abstract philosophy http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/russian-man-shot-in-quarrel-over-immanuel-kant-s-philosophy-8820327.html
08:00 <ConfusionRift> And then, there's that mess.
08:00 <Schism> I kind of like how, in an argument over incorporeal philosophy, and Immanual Kant, no less, one man took the materialist approach.
08:02 <Schism> Bullets don't argue. They just are. :S
08:02 <ConfusionRift> Heck, nowadays, discussion logic can get you killed.
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08:03 <Schism> iandalton: There is also the fact that prior events of history lead to current events which MUST be discussed through the lens of history -- which, in turn, is provided by current events. It's a really difficult loop. You and Hume are right in that the further back we go, the darker that glass gets.
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08:04 * Schism eats the luv muffin. <3
08:04 <DinkyDoo> The issue is that people these days don't stop to learn histroy
08:04 <iandalton> of course, every topic of discussion is tied to every other, but I think there's something to Hume's argument that history is in the middle and so provides a good context for examining human nature
08:04 <DinkyDoo> So they make mistakes just as bad
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08:05 <Schism> That's certainly one issue, to be sure. No myopia is quite as bad as the self-inflicted kind.
08:05 <DinkyDoo> Fun fact
08:06 <DinkyDoo> There's a group of native Americans that saw how the American government walked all over the native and broke all the promises that it caused them to form there own nation
08:07 <Schism> iandalton: The concern I have is that, while aspects of human nature can be revealed thereby, one still would need to look to the future for a full understanding. History is also glazed with wax.
08:07 <DinkyDoo> With there own language currency, pritive school systems and a defined border. They even made treaties with the American government
08:07 <Golden> Good night everyone
08:08 <Schism> DinkyDoo, yes. And to them I can do little but offer my fondest appreciation... it's excellent that they maintain their sovereignty even now.
08:08 <DinkyDoo> And when the Americans broke there promises (again) the when to the supreme Court. And won twice. Only the military didn't listen to oders and took there land anyway
08:08 <ConfusionRift> Hmm, that slope is a treacherous one.
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08:09 <DinkyDoo> They still exist though and that more then most groups can say
08:09 * Schism nods, and leaves it at that for now.
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08:10 <DinkyDoo> Odd so was reading a hostoy piece earlier
08:11 <DinkyDoo> I though that the British let the colonies go because Spain and France sided with us (the French for a promise that was, you guessed it broken) but I had no idea the Neatherlands also sided with us
08:12 <RazorSharpFang> Does that count as politics?
08:13 <Schism> I think most of the discussion counts as politics, but as we're discussing past events in a generally decent manner, it's not actually against channel mores.
08:13 <DinkyDoo> Not really? It's very old historical fact. The point I was making is that in school we are taught about the French and Spanish helping but the Neatherlands? Not even mentioned. I find it qurious
08:14 <Schism> Though there's also morality and philosophy, but if we get into the third topic not to be discussed around dinner tables, we'll need to go elsewhere.
08:14 <ConfusionRift> Schism: That's called brake bracing, which is also against the rules.
08:14 <iandalton> DinkyDoo the treaty with France was with the King of France, when the revolution killed him and installed a new government, the US had no treaty with them. Although it's ironic since the King of France made a treaty with American revolutionaries
08:14 <Schism> Then let's call an end to the discussion for now. I apologize if things have gotten a bit too involved.
08:14 <DinkyDoo> Brake bracing?
08:15 <DinkyDoo> I've never heard tahg term before
08:15 <Schism> DinkyDoo, when one skirts along just below the edge of the line.
08:15 <DinkyDoo> Oh
08:15 <ConfusionRift> In any case, I'm just on whatever mood. If anyone is bothered by all this, then I'll call it.
08:16 <DinkyDoo> So I just ate for first time in a whike
08:16 <iandalton> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0952Hj4fWw btw, I found what seems like a decent documentary on the cuban revolution. I'm 20 min in
08:16 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.
08:16 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Cuban Revolution (Fidel Castro Raul Castro Che Guevara)
08:16 <DinkyDoo> And it was this pasta salad
08:16 <Schism> Ooh! Thank you, iandalton.
08:16 <iandalton> so far it isn't clearly partisan
08:16 <DinkyDoo> It was so sweet and wonderful at first then it started tasting butter :(
08:16 <iandalton> although it quotes a lot from the american media's reports of the time
08:16 <Schism> CR: I dunno, I think gentle arguments about historical events are well worth it, especially in the context of the War of the Three Tribes. But that's just me.
08:17 <DinkyDoo> Well to be fair iandalton
08:17 <DinkyDoo> The Americans are a bug factor in a bit of Cuban history
08:17 <Schism> We kinda got into that, DinkyDoo, discussing the events of the Cold War as a macrocosm for the Cuban Revolution.
08:17 <iandalton> but it also shows footage of general batista's broadcasts, quotes from fidel castro's book that he wrote in prison ,etc.
08:18 <DinkyDoo> For example we basically stole it from Spain. Then said ok guys! You on Your own! And left them with no government
08:18 <iandalton> DinkyDoo the documentary very briefly touches on Cuba's earlier history, but I suppose I'd need another documentary to really learn about that
08:18 <Schism> Ah, yup. That's a big part too. Leave an independent nation with no viable support and then declare that it must be on one side or the other.
08:19 <ConfusionRift> Schism: I keep getting this explanation of basically using historical events as a way to skew possible political discussions. Again, I'm in no hunting mood, unless someone is really bothered by all this.
08:19 <ConfusionRift> Seems all is okay, so it's fine.
08:19 <Schism> Eh. I guess as long as we're not bothered, it's fair discussion.
08:20 <DinkyDoo> Yeah it's taught breafly In American history books. I think my school book had a entire (very small chapter) on it
08:20 <Schism> That's because of the Cuban Missile Crisis. Without that, it wouldn't even be a footnote.
08:20 <ConfusionRift> Oh, and just in case. (ahem) This does not mean politics is allowed. We're just discussing past events.
08:21 <iandalton> DinkyDoo something I didn't learn in history class, but recently saw an excellent documentary about on Netflix, is the Black Panthers
08:21 <Schism> We should really, really be taught more about the countries around us.
08:21 <iandalton> I recommend it
08:21 <Schism> And a bit more about our own countries, come to think.
08:21 <DinkyDoo> Mainly how Americans at the time where outraged by various factors (that was mainly all lies anyway) and lead to the war with Cuba. I recommend reading into it
08:22 <DinkyDoo> Well here in America we are mainly taught (in my area anyway) about Canada, Cuba, mexico, Germany, and England
08:22 <Schism> DinkyDoo, the Cold War had a name for the lies told to the populaces of the US and the USSR, not to mention the states under their respective control: "Realpolitik".
08:22 <DinkyDoo> Almost nothing on France
08:23 <DinkyDoo> We just call them political cartoon and that's a subject I'll touch with a 10 foot pole
08:23 <iandalton> oh btw, unrelated to history: I clocked my first billable hours today at my new job at the home depot :D
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08:24 <ConfusionRift> Huzzah!
08:26 <DinkyDoo> Schism are you in gladi-bats room?
08:26 <Schism> Nyope...!
08:27 <ConfusionRift> iandalton: You getting them sweat bills. :P
08:27 <Schism> Sorry, too tired to join new rooms and also, congrats, iandalton.
08:27 <DinkyDoo> Aww I can't really open up the topic here :(
08:27 <ConfusionRift> Hmmm?!
08:28 <ConfusionRift> If it falls over the swinging tight rope that we're kinda standing on, it might not be a good idea.
08:28 <iandalton> yeah, SRQ's room was started partly as a place to discuss politics
08:28 * ConfusionRift nods.
08:28 <DinkyDoo> ConfusionRift yeah I'm not going to crose over here
08:29 <ConfusionRift> If you really want to get your politics on, go there. Or Discourse.
08:29 <iandalton> sweat bills is right, I'm to be a parking lot associate, as soon as my training is finished
08:29 <iandalton> and it's going to be a hot summer
08:29 <ConfusionRift> Parking lot... ooooh noooo.
08:29 <ConfusionRift> You're gonna be either the parking vacuum, or customer guinea pig.
08:29 <DinkyDoo> Anyway I personally was always facinated with Japanese history
08:29 <ConfusionRift> Both suck.
08:30 <iandalton> I'm going to be lifting 80-lb bags of concrete and helping customers load their trucks
08:30 <ConfusionRift> Their history is rather interesting.
08:30 <ConfusionRift> Yep! Guinea pig.
08:30 <iandalton> isn't a guinea pig one who is subject to experiments?
08:31 <iandalton> I'll be a draft horse
08:31 <ConfusionRift> That's a lab rat.
08:31 <iandalton> or draft pony
08:31 <iandalton> guinea pig, lab rat, same meaning
08:31 <Fn> Discourse is pretty ded
08:31 <DinkyDoo> Like did you know that the mongol empire wanted to rule Japan so badly that they built the largest invasion fleet in history? (At least untill D day) and lost the entire thing the entire fleet in a single night?
08:31 <Fn> DinkyDoo, to a storm
08:32 <ConfusionRift> See, there's a word that summarizes your position, but this is not the place for it.
08:32 <Fn> What a rotten luck eh?
08:32 <ConfusionRift> Pack mule would be the closest I can think of.
08:32 <DinkyDoo> Turns out the Chinese workers who built it didn't build them properly otherwise large amounts of the fleet would have survived
08:32 <DinkyDoo> Plus they "forgot" to mention monsoon season was cominng up lol
08:33 <DinkyDoo> Human dolly iandalton ?
08:34 <ConfusionRift> Remember to streeeetch, and use your legs.
08:35 <iandalton> yeah I've got that lifting technique down solid
08:35 <DinkyDoo> Also lottsa water
08:35 <iandalton> I learned it in the weight room
08:35 <DinkyDoo> And muffins!
08:36 * ConfusionRift said he was gonna play a game. He hasn't yet.
08:36 <ConfusionRift> 0_0;
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08:41 * Schism yawns, and provides pones with some butternut squash, filled with apples, nutmeg, cinnamon, brown sugar, and vanilla, and topped with a ridiculous amount of butter.
08:42 * DinkyDoo flops over opin Schism with a snire
08:42 <Fn> DinkyDoo, chinese workers pulled the good 'ol swindle on Mongols
08:43 <Schism> I know I've read that tale, but I forget how that was done.
08:43 <DinkyDoo> It's a valuable lession. Double cheek work done for you from peopel who don't like yiu
08:44 <Fn> Mongols were never a sea-faring people
08:44 <Fn> Figures
08:44 <DinkyDoo> They didn't apply the waterproofing correctly Schism and make the parts mismatch on the ships
08:44 <iandalton> Documentaries are necessarily too short to contain all the details. This documentary says that representatives of the USSR first visited Cuba in 1960, which didn't please the American politicians, but it doesn't say what led to them coming over in the first place, which would be good to know.
08:45 <Schism> That does make sense. And because the Mongols were a land-bound army by and by, made up of disparate tribes, very few of them could have doublechecked those ships, like a credulous customer buying a half-baked used car.
08:46 <Schism> "Sure, this engine will get you where you need to go," says the dealer, knowing that the automobile will die about 100 miles out of his shop.
08:46 <iandalton> Would this be in Ghengis Khan's time?
08:47 <Schism> I think it's a different tale...? Not totally sure.
08:47 <Fn> Schism, we (as in me and my stepbrothers) pulled a sort of prank on a used car dealer in Lithuania
08:48 <Schism> Oh, do please share.
08:48 <Fn> Being from Germany I pretended to be a car engineer, and we took a few measuring devices from a local car repair dealership
08:48 <iandalton> extirpate, a word with such a great etymology. ex: out, stirps: trunk. To pull the trunk out.
08:49 <Fn> So after the salesman tried to sell the car, I whipped all the tools, introduced myself faking german accent and asked to check his claims
08:49 <Fn> He made loads of excuses and sold another car instead
08:49 <Fn> XD
08:49 <Schism> I do love that word, iandalton. And Fn: Oh dear. X3
08:49 <Fn> I could barely contain my laughter
08:49 <Schism> A much better example of the automotive sort...
08:50 <Schism> Blast it all to hell. Now I want some squash, stuffed with apples and maple syrup. (And the assorted spices, of course.)
08:50 <Fn> I would be in an awkward situation if the car salesman would be like "ok go check"
08:51 <Fn> I had no clue where to even plug those
08:51 <Schism> As the old saying goes, it's much more difficult to fool an honest man. A dishonest one, though...
08:52 <iandalton> have we lifted the trade embargo with cuba?
08:52 <Schism> Had the junker been honest, he'd likely have known what each of those tools did, and what you were doing.
08:53 <Schism> iandalton: I don't honestly know. I THINK that most of the embargoes have been lifted, but I can't say for sure.
08:53 <Schism> Cuban cigars are likely still contraband, for some reason or another. I don't know enough about the associated laws to say one way or another, and it's best to be on the safe side.
08:53 <Fn> Btw the car he sold in the end (a small 3-cylinder Hyndai) still runs to this day with no issues
08:54 <Fn> Bulletproof car that
08:54 <iandalton> Schism what about travel to cuba?
08:54 <Fn> Outlived many many other brands and peers
08:54 <Schism> No clue, iandalton, and you'd have to check on restrictions yourself.
08:54 <Schism> Fn: That's kinda hilarious - the thought that, upon calling his lie, he gave you the best car in the whole darned lot.
08:55 <Fn> Panicked probably
08:55 <Schism> And for a song and dance number, no less.
08:55 <iandalton> how convenient, there's a wikipedia article on that very topic
08:55 <Fn> Oh, the mother of my stepbrothers worked in the town Magistrate as well
08:55 <Fn> She was not the one to fool around with
08:55 <Schism> Oh, well, that probably gave you +20 on your Bluff roll.
08:56 <Fn> Yup
08:56 <iandalton> the embargo is still in place
08:56 <Schism> I'd say you should have just mentioned that from the start, but if you'd done so, that tale wouldn't have garnered you a few free drinks.
08:57 <Fn> My stepbros are car guys though, they can tell a wishbone suspension from a kettle.
08:58 <Schism> Meanwhile, if someone gives me a gearbox, I'm more likely to turn it into an omelet than anything workable.
08:58 <Fn> Schism, Lithuania is liek heaven for second-hand cars, because of law situation. (you can löegalise a stolen car because of lithuanian laws)
08:59 <Fn> Finding a car that is in real good shape is not an easy task
08:59 <Fn> legalise*
08:59 <iandalton> the travel ban has been eased, so cuban-americans, students, and religious missionaries can travel to cuba
08:59 <Fn> They can do so without any visas too
09:00 <Schism> Fn: That sounds like a junkyard searcher's dream. "Yes, I'll take that transmission, and these wheels..."
09:00 <Fn> Just give services a reason and you'll be chilling on that Guantanamo bay for free in no time
09:01 <Fn> Schism, an almost-my-stepdad did exactly that
09:01 <Schism> iandalton: Why do I have a sneaking suspicion that isn't going to be the case for long?
09:01 <Fn> He refurbished cars, and assembled better cars from different parts
09:01 <Schism> Fn: Hee. Take the best of the best parts before they get melted down for scrap, and make a great little frankenmobile out of the result.
09:01 <iandalton> Schism we'll see
09:01 <Fn> Mainly for the racing clients though
09:01 <Fn> That's the thing Schism : you can own any frankenvehicle in Lithuania
09:02 <Fn> You can make it out of wood if you want
09:02 <iandalton> Fn the problem is finding that sweet spot that gets you sent to Gitmo but not taken out by a drone strike :P
09:02 <Fn> it just has to comply with the regulations
09:03 <Schism> Why do I have a weird suspicion that said regulations are A. not particularly regulated and B. so lax you could use them as a dietary medicine?
09:03 <Fn> He drove an american Ford Taunus (a very big box) with motor from a Jaguar and suspension bits from Audi
09:04 <Fn> No idea how he managed to combine two imperial inch things and metric like this
09:04 <Schism> ... how the HELL does that even work?
09:04 <Schism> Pardon my Equestrian, but seriously... what the crap?
09:04 <Fn> But it not only ran, it, it could outrun any roadcar he desired
09:05 <Fn> Schism, chopshop magic and experience in making rally cars
09:05 <Fn> Lithuanian "rally" in those times meant the car would be totaled with like 80% probability
09:05 <Schism> That is, no lie, roughly the equivalent of the street-legal tank I bought for my Shadowrunning team.
09:06 <Fn> So the chopshops made them all custom and with repairability in mind
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09:06 <Fn> So the front and rear of the car could be from different vehicles
09:06 <Schism> That, ah... so how many Econoline frames did the shop go through on a regular basis?
09:07 <Fn> Given that the season is once a year
09:07 <Fn> 3 cars in a year, made from 6 to 18 other cars
09:07 <Schism> Oh, that's not as bad as I expected. And that return is actually pretty good, considering.
09:07 <Fn> Ofc majority of cars were kept as a single brand because compatibility
09:07 <iandalton> Schism every shadowrunned in eastern europe?
09:08 <Fn> Schism, that is per one driver
09:08 <Schism> Oh. Three cars per driver. Um.
09:08 <Fn> Yes. One running and two identical as backups
09:08 <Fn> Sometimes only one backup
09:08 <Schism> iandalton: No, when I was playing Shadowrun, we stuck to Denver. None of us wanted to get anywhere near Chicago, and Eastern Europe was way out of our reach.
09:09 <ConfusionRift> Hmm, can see that working.
09:09 <Schism> Not that any of us wanted to go into Uberwald anyway, let alone deal with the fae at Tir Tiargne.
09:09 <Schism> Or, worse, freaking political mayhem at Tir na Nog.
09:10 <iandalton> I know so little of the geography of Shadowrun
09:10 <Fn> I remember when he made 3 "Audi 80" racing cars which had VW, Audi parts (from different audi car models) and a porsche turbine on it
09:11 <Fn> And all three burned down after the carrier lorry tipped over and caught fire
09:11 <Fn> He cried and was drunk for a week
09:11 <Schism> iandalton: Think of it this way. Magic has returned to the world, and in many parts of the world, cultural boundaries and stories of the past have led to the old stories coming alive.
09:12 <iandalton> Oh, I missed that part
09:12 <iandalton> So did America get Orks and Elves because it's obsessed with LotR?
09:12 <Schism> So yes, in the northern UCAS territories, the Wendigo hunts its foes, werewolves and Canadian Trapdoor Alligators are well and alive, and let's just say that Eastern Europe is not a no-go zone, but most of the 'runners didn't want to go there.
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09:14 <Schism> No, in the Shadowrun canon, after a certain point, a subset of humanity started being born with fantastic attributes. Initially considered to be a mutation, metahumanity is more or less evenly distributed by 2080, though most strains do tend towards communities of their own.
09:14 <Schism> Ireland, for example, is largely populated by Elves.
09:14 <iandalton> so that has nothing to do with "stories of the past coming alive"?
09:15 <Schism> Oh, it does. There's this whole metastory about how the echoes of olden times were kept alive in the memories of humans -- and that includes the darker things living in the recesses of the human psyche, waiting for their time to strike.
09:16 <Schism> Though exactly how the prior age of Magic managed to survive is unclear by design.
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09:18 <Schism> The dragons know, and I'm sure they'd be utterly thrilled to be pressed for information.
09:19 <iandalton> so the dragons aren't metahumans?
09:21 <Schism> No, in Shadowrun, the dragons are their own race, mostly separate from humans. Their involvement in metahuman affairs is in no small part due to the fact that, in Shadowrun, politics has reached such a cutthroat and hideous level, from the high to the low, that it's now worth their attention. (That and they couldn't really keep concealed any longer.)
09:21 <Schism> They took to the new world like ducks to water, and more than a few of them are in control of the highest authorities.
09:22 <iandalton> after 1963, the "the cubans never paid a penny for military hardware. they asked, and they received, more or less." that was, I think, the same era that the USSR was helping China found their energy industry and so on. jeez, they really were a superpower, having the resources to help countries all around the world like that.
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09:24 <Schism> The political game was heavily nuanced. In return for those resources, many countries pledged to repay the responsible factions - which led to a growth of countries with debts to the US, the USSR, or both.
09:25 <Schism> Many such countries found that they were suddenly under new management, which - as it looked very similar to the old one - didn't disrupt things overmuch.
09:25 <iandalton> both? it seemed like the US was the one that wanted Cuba to choose between it or the USSR, not allowing it to have relations with both, rather than Cuba proactively breaking off relations with the US when it formed a relationship with the USSR
09:27 <Schism> That's just it. The fact that Cuba had received resources from both sides led to it having obligations towards both, and when the US made a move towards it becoming a solely 'blue'-sided alliance, this pushed things towards a breaking point.
09:27 <Schism> At least, as I understand things.
09:28 <Schism> Please correct me if I'm wrong on any of this; I'm not as fervent a student of history as many.
09:28 <iandalton> I'm learning it all as we speak
09:29 <Schism> The resultant Bay of Pigs incident is what happens when two sides have a severe breach in communication, and the third party - the prize, per se - takes its own unilateral steps to escalate.
09:30 <iandalton> according to this documentary, the Bay of Pigs was before the Cuban government established relations with the USSR government
09:30 <iandalton> if I'm putting the pieces together right
09:30 <Schism> Sorry, that's probably right. Cart before horse.
09:31 <Schism> Bay of Pigs resulted in Cuba becoming more likely to join the USSR in that case when US involvement in its actions became overwhelming. Sorry, I'm tired, it's a bit lateish/earlyish.
09:32 <Schism> The Kennedy/Nixon timeline is a mess.
09:32 <iandalton> yeah, unfortunately this documentary doesn't really discuss what led to them first opening relations with the USSR government
09:33 <iandalton> but as soon as they did, the US government demanded that they choose a side
09:33 <Schism> They honestly probably made inroads beforehand, as most countries did, testing the waters so to speak. When you have two superpowers there, you want to weigh your options.
09:33 <iandalton> and they chose the USSR
09:35 <iandalton> yeah, I'm sure a book-length work would include those details
09:35 <Schism> Which did grant the Russians a foothill near the US, and probably escalated things severely in the minds of the responsible parties...
09:35 <Schism> foothold*
09:36 <Schism> The thing about the Cold War is that it's a spectacular tangled story of international relationships, brinksmanship, one-upsmanship, and something that could maybe be called a kerfuffle were it not for the constant threat of nuclear weaponry.
09:38 <iandalton> there's an hour-long program of an interview with Robert McNamara on the Vietnam war, how at the time, he and other people in power in the US saw Vietnam in terms of a proxy war with the USSR, but the Vietnamese saw it in terms of themselves. It's interesting to hear such a big player's perspective.
09:39 <Schism> Hmm. That's actually a really good idea to check out. Motive has always been key in understanding of a situation, and the problem with the start of the Cold War is that very few people have a grip on what that motive actually was.
09:41 <Schism> That's not to say that we can't gather clues and compare them to assess a potential motive regarding the primary suspects, such as that is: it's just that we have about 50 or so to choose from.
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09:42 <ConfusionRift> I believe it was that problem of one putting their all on a problem that one forgot what it was.
09:43 <Schism> Probably so. In politics, it's easy to become embroiled in the gambler's fallacy.
09:44 <iandalton> I believe there have been a few Star Trek episodes about that
09:44 <Schism> (Also, I do mean 'primary suspects': War is an act of violence against another party in whole or in part, with the stated intention to seize assets belonging to said second party. Assault and battery, on an international scale.)
09:45 <Schism> iandalton: I'm pretty sure there have been a few episodes about the escalation of conflicts.
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09:47 <iandalton> Schism I mean about people who have been at war for generations and forgotten the reason
09:47 <ConfusionRift> One of those, like this one. Have spent so long wondering what to play that I mostly end up not playing anything.
09:47 <iandalton> both in the original series and later on
09:48 <ConfusionRift> Oh, that has been done often.
09:48 <Schism> The canonical tale, of course, is the Hatfields and the McCoys.
09:48 <Verandure> Hayfields and McColts.
09:48 <Verandure> Joy.
09:48 <Verandure> That was a very strange episode.
09:49 <ConfusionRift> That conflict just becomes plain hate, and it eventually completely blur what the conflict was.
09:49 <Schism> ConfusionRift, may I perhaps suggest Path of Exile as something to play?
09:49 <ConfusionRift> RPG... eeerm...
09:50 <Schism> Mm. Then, perhaps... Rabi-Ribi, if you have it?
09:50 <ConfusionRift> The closest thing I got to that is Phantom Breaker.
09:50 <Schism> ConfusionRift, also, I suppose there is, long before those... the Montagues and the Capulets.
09:51 <iandalton> well do we know that they had been feuding for generations?
09:51 <iandalton> or forgotten the reason?
09:51 <iandalton> since it's italy, maybe they were two mafia dons
09:51 <Schism> Honestly, it seemed so long-established in the play that they were pretty much presented as two families fighting for the sake of fighting.
09:52 <iandalton> AFAIK, my mafia version is equally supportable
09:52 <Schism> No explanation was given or forthcoming because that, well, kinda wasn't the point. Though you are right, it could have been two business empires at war with one another.
10:05 <Schism> ConfusionRift: Would you perhaps like to play a round of Hedgewars?
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10:17 * Schism mnrfs then. And plays a bit of Rabi-Ribi. Although... "There is a pinball game or two on my Steam list. That might be enjoyable."
10:17 <iandalton> Finished that documentary. I feel like I can go back to finish watching Che and understand the context a lot better now.
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10:23 <Schism> Hmm. I like a good pinball game, and Pinball FX2 does have its fair share of interesting tables, but... something's lacking. I think I need to find myself a gamepad with a rumble feature.
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10:24 * Schism also takes the time to install Salt and Sanctuary, a game which has been described as Dark Souls, but in 2D.
10:25 <Cepheid> The only game where getting saltier and saltier is good for you.
10:25 <Schism> Not the only one, but certainly one of the very few. Also, hiyas.
10:26 <Cepheid> Hoi.
10:27 <iandalton> morning Cepheid
10:28 <Schism> That having been said... I think instead I'll poke once more at a game which features bunnygirls. Also, Cepheid, I hope you've picked up Wings of Vi at some point.
10:30 <Cepheid> Morning ian.
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10:38 <ConfusionRift> Hey there.
10:38 <ConfusionRift> Schism: Sorry, got distracted.
10:40 <ConfusionRift> This controller is not that old and already has joystick problems.
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10:40 <ConfusionRift> Then again, that's what I get for buying cheapary.
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10:45 <ConfusionRift> Bleh, this controller is discouraging.
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10:49 <Schism> Cepheid, ConfusionRift: In this temple lies the Treasure that Must Not Be Seen. No glory awaits the seeker. Only pain.
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10:53 <Schism> "Nothing can make me regret the effort I put into this." -DeceasedCrab tempts fate.
10:53 <ADragonDreaming> mauer
10:54 <CleverDerpy> where is lumi?
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10:54 <CleverDerpy> Lumindia~
10:54 <Lumindia> ?
10:54 <Lumindia> I have been summoned?
10:54 <CleverDerpy> hiya~
10:54 <Lumindia> Hiya
10:54 <CleverDerpy> by a derp, yes
10:54 * Lumindia hugs
10:54 * CleverDerpy purrs
10:54 * CleverDerpy licks
10:55 * Lumindia squeak
10:55 * ADragonDreaming works at 8:30 today. Mrffef.
10:55 <CleverDerpy> i like it when you kiss a derp~
10:55 <CleverDerpy> you make a silly noise
10:55 * Lumindia kisses! <3
10:55 * CleverDerpy licks the kiss
10:56 <CleverDerpy> and that's how French kissing came to be~
10:56 * Lumindia giggles a bit
10:57 <Lumindia> [ Cue all the colts and fillies going "EEEEEWWWWWW" ]
10:57 <CleverDerpy> that's not a dirty reference, btw... a filly falling into a mud puddle is
10:57 <Lumindia> I bet that's what Lisa would do if she were here
10:57 <Lumindia> x3
10:57 <CleverDerpy> i just wub my wumi~
10:59 <CleverDerpy> Derpy needs sleep, but too late now
10:59 <ConfusionRift> Schism: "I have no regrets!" - Dead Guy
10:59 <Cepheid> Okay, I have to do something about Tizzy's mats.
10:59 <CleverDerpy> derpy was finishing all da shrines in breath of the wild
10:59 <Cepheid> She just came up to me for petting and attention, fine and dandy.
10:59 <Cepheid> Except I touched a bad spot, apparently, and she spent the next five bloody minutes trying to grab onto my arm and bite me repeatedly while growling at me.
11:00 <Lumindia> wub wub
11:00 <Lumindia> <3
11:00 <CleverDerpy> derpy thought kitties are cute
11:00 * Lumindia kisses Derp's cheek
11:00 * CleverDerpy blushes and squeaks
11:00 * ADragonDreaming performs Warframe alert
11:00 * Lumindia tucks her into bed
11:00 <CleverDerpy> derpy can't sleep
11:01 <CleverDerpy> has a bad case of the insomnias
11:01 <CleverDerpy> let's put the idea to bed for now
11:01 <CleverDerpy> (badumtsh~)
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11:02 <ConfusionRift> Hah!
11:02 <Lumindia_> My connection derped
11:02 <Cepheid> I'm debating just outright shaving Tizzy, with or without my mother's consent.
11:02 * ConfusionRift cues laugh track.
11:02 <CleverDerpy> hey boss, let's shave him~
11:02 <Cepheid> It was fine when she bit me now and then, but this time she was growling and hissing at me.
11:02 <CleverDerpy> -Puss in Boots, SHrek 2
11:03 <ConfusionRift> Alright, let's do this! (takes out trimmer)
11:03 <Schism> ConfusionRift, another game which I've heard is enjoyable is '20XX'.
11:04 <Schism> Which is, I've heard, more or less what Mighty Number 9 should have been.
11:04 <ConfusionRift> Saw someone play it. Interesting, but it's in beta and looks like the hairpulling kind of platformer.
11:04 <Schism> Oh, definitely the hard kinda platformer.
11:04 <CleverDerpy> 20XX would be enough alcohol to kill a family
11:04 <CleverDerpy> that's not healthy
11:04 * ConfusionRift patpats CleverDerpy. "It's a game."
11:04 <CleverDerpy> ooooh, oki~
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11:05 <CleverDerpy> can derpy play~?
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11:05 <ConfusionRift> Roguelike platformer.
11:05 <Schism> Isn't free, sadly - but it's much akin to Megaman X.
11:05 <CleverDerpy> like has been heroes?
11:05 <CleverDerpy> that's roguelike, i has it
11:05 <Schism> CleverDerpy, you know how in the Megaman series you obtain new weapons after beating a boss?
11:06 <CleverDerpy> mhm
11:06 <CleverDerpy> each boss can also have weaknesses to other weapons from other bosses
11:06 <Cepheid> Essentially the same thing. The levels are randomly generated, you fight a boss, get it's weapon, then choose from one of three next bosses to kill.
11:06 <Cepheid> Each stage is progressively harder than the last.
11:06 <Schism> It's like that, except the bosses, weapons and items are largely randomized. So you might have the weapon against which the boss is weak -- but more likely, you'll have to shuffle through and deal with what you have.
11:06 <CleverDerpy> oooh, sounds challegening
11:07 <Cepheid> I can stream it later to show it off.
11:07 * CleverDerpy is reminded of pokemon mystery dungeon
11:07 * ADragonDreaming nibbles on Cepheid
11:07 <CleverDerpy> but that's more of a dungeon crawler
11:07 <CleverDerpy> but the random elements are there
11:07 <Cepheid> Busy, coding, in a foul mood now.
11:07 <ADragonDreaming> k
11:08 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Morning Discussion #857 [ http://tinyurl.com/ld57fr7 ]
11:08 <CleverDerpy> ADragonDreaming, you can hug and nom derpy's ear.
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11:08 <CleverDerpy> wow, that's almost 2 and a half years of morning discussions
11:09 <CleverDerpy> presuming there were no breaks
11:15 <Schism> Huh... Cepheid, if you want to raise an eyebrow, try right-clicking on Rabi-Ribi in your Steam Library.
11:17 <Cepheid> I don't see anything unusual. I presume the game must be installed.
11:17 <Schism> Ah, yeah. If installed, and you do so, it comes up with a whole list of other options.
11:17 <Cepheid> Okay cats, both of you, GET OUT.
11:17 <Schism> Including a means to force it to use DX 9.0c.
11:17 <Cepheid> I don't want you in my room right now.
11:18 <Schism> Throw a pillow at them? Harmless and they'll get the point.
11:18 <Schism> Well... probably.
11:18 <Cepheid> I just picked them up and locked them out of my room for the time being.
11:18 * Schism nods. ._.
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11:19 <Cepheid> Ah, yeah. Rabi-Ribi has trouble on 60+Hz monitors.
11:19 <Cepheid> Or rather, it did.
11:19 <Cepheid> Essentially the game ran over twice as fast.
11:20 <Cepheid> Hum, OSAP update email. Let's see what's wrong.
11:20 <Cepheid> Aaaand I can't check due to website maintenance.
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11:21 <Schism> Cepheid: Ah, that was a bit of a trick, wasn't it... the 60Hz thing, that is. ... wait. Does that mean that the game's frames were directly tied to the monitor refresh rate?
11:21 <Schism> Also, of course not, that would be too easy. ._.
11:22 <Schism> I genuinely want to know. Did people not recognize that tying programs' refresh rates to hardware was a bad idea back in... oh, the 486 era?
11:23 * ConfusionRift whispers. "There are still many newer games that have that problem."
11:24 <Schism> Whyyyyyyy?! That just makes things harder down the line when you inevitably have to PATCH the darned thing!
11:24 <Cepheid> I think it's more an issue that developers don't know how to handle framerate and logic processing together.
11:25 <ConfusionRift> And that's why they end up finding ways to remove that problem.
11:26 <Schism> That's it. Everyone involved in development of any processor-intensive product needs to play all of Zachtronics' games, and they're not to be unleashed upon the innocent, unsuspecting products until they understand clock cycles, bottlenecks, and why you tie games to the ticks of an actual clock.
11:27 <Cepheid> The simplest way is to accumulate the amount of time that's passed between each frame, and once that time has exceeded a certain threshold, you do a logic update. It works, but there are problems with the approach. It's usually better to use an OS-specific high-resolution-timer setup, plus a few other details instead.
11:27 <Cepheid> It's the simplest approach that ensures the game won't break if the monitor is running at a higher frequency than the game's update logic.
11:27 <Cepheid> Or slower.
11:28 <Schism> That way, your game doesn't run slower than normal when you wind up playing it on a toaster.
11:28 <Schism> Just because of, well, video card bottlenecks.
11:28 <Cepheid> If it's slower, you may see two or more logic updates per refresh. If it's faster, you'll see 0 or 1 updates per refresh.
11:28 <Schism> And that's the way it /should/ be.
11:28 <Cepheid> However, when people play games at these refresh rates..
11:29 <Cepheid> They expect to see a framerate higher than say, 60hz.
11:29 <Schism> Yes, because they're likely to actually /see/ that framerate...
11:29 <Cepheid> And by that, I mean they don't see the 60hz logic update. They see it at whatever the monitor is running at.
11:30 <Cepheid> There's an approach for *THAT* but it risks something called desynchronization.
11:31 <Schism> I think we do know the effects of desync around here.
11:31 <Cepheid> It involves calculating how much time has passed between the previous frame and the next frame, and telling the world logic to update by that amount of time.
11:31 <Schism> Though that desync experienced between the minotaur and the eyes is a little different...
11:32 <Cepheid> Obviously this has some issues in that on some machines, the game will take larger time steps(1/60th for 60Hz refresh), compared to smaller timesteps on faster monitors(1/144th for 144Hz)
11:32 <Cepheid> And anyone with a basic knowledge of physics will KNOW how this impacts the game logic.
11:32 <Schism> And you can't readily divide 144 by 60, though you can break it down into 12Hz chunks and update that way...
11:33 <Cepheid> And hey, guess what physics simulations are used in? Almost every friggen game out there now.
11:33 <Cepheid> The final solution is a lot more difficult, but "solves" the problem in a sense.
11:33 <Schism> Yup. And when a rock is thrown at an enemy, that update means that it'll go one way on some computers, and another on others.
11:33 <Cepheid> Run the game logic at 60Hz. Then for any displays that refresh faster than that? Linear interpolation.
11:34 <Schism> But Cepheid! That means that players won't be getting the FULL EXPERIENCE of their monitors which refresh faster than any human brain can readily deal.
11:34 <Cepheid> For each frame, you calculate the PREDICTED location of where everything would be in a linear fashion, and render that.
11:35 <Cepheid> That's their problem, not mine.
11:35 <Cepheid> The linear interpolation solution is the best solution really. It provides smoother animation and movement for higher refresh rates, while maintaining the 60Hz logic updates.
11:35 <Schism> But yeh, that's pretty much the way to do it. At least make sure that the machines running the simulation each react in a predictable fashion, eschewing bottlenecks and overly verbose minotaurs.
11:36 <Cepheid> However, it only works if using linear interpolation.
11:36 <Schism> When a player presses a key on their leopard, you want to make sure that what appears on the minotaur reacts the same way every time.
11:37 <Schism> And yeah, on testing machines it's a little more sensible to use all kinds of ridiculous shortcuts.
11:37 <Cepheid> Actually, now that I think about it, there's even a problem with the linear interpolation approach.
11:38 <Cepheid> Hmm, I can't quite grasp the problem. I see it visually, but yeah.
11:43 <Cepheid> Blasted cat... Freaking itches and stings where she got me.
11:44 <Cepheid> I love this cat, I do, but it's hard when she's got fur full of mats, and all my mother prefers to do is just shave off the mats individually, which isn't enough.
11:44 <Cepheid> This cat needs a full buzz-cut, and from that point on, daily brushing
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11:55 <Jackie> Hey Cepheid, do you think this is okay??
11:55 <Jackie> https://www.nuxified.org/article/how-install-ubuntu-linux-without-dvd-or-usb/
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12:05 <Cepheid> Viable, but if the hard disk drive is taken up entirely by a Windows partition, it'll have to be resized. Otherwise, if you're planning to install it on a secondary drive, it'll work.
12:07 <Jackie> Well this is a laptop
12:08 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: RARITY SHREDDIN [ http://tinyurl.com/mv5bos6 ]
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12:16 <Jackie> Cepheid, in my opinion, are VMs good for learning Linux though?
12:18 <Cepheid> VMs are good for learning Linux, yes.
12:18 <Cepheid> They're also useful for other things as well.
12:21 <Cepheid> "Oh no, no. She's fine, she doesn't need a buzz cut."
12:22 <Cepheid> Yes, because growling, hissing and biting isn't an indication that something's wrong.
12:22 <Jackie> I might replace my distro's theme
12:22 <Jackie> I mean it's mediocre X
12:23 <Jackie> But anyway, I'm reading Learn Linux in 5 Days
12:23 <Cepheid> http://imgur.com/gallery/O0jNNmK
12:25 <Jackie> Nuu. Software Updates
12:29 <Jackie> this is awesome
12:29 <Jackie> 'telnet towel.blinkenlights.nl'
12:34 * Saerydoth remembers that from 15 years ago lol
12:34 <Saerydoth> I wonder if it has the whole movie by now
12:37 <Jackie> Saerydoth: Well I attempted this on my Xterm
12:37 <Jackie> And it's awesome
12:38 <Cepheid> http://imgur.com/gallery/2oghk6a ...
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12:54 <Vulpor> heh Hotshots
12:54 <Vulpor> good movie
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13:05 <Cepheid> This summer is not going to be enjoyable.
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13:28 <Cepheid> Right, after this food, nap time.
13:28 <Cepheid> I woke up way too early thanks to the parental units.
13:29 <Cepheid> It just dawned on me that I'm going to be 31 in 10 days. [REDACTED].
13:30 <Cepheid> http://imgur.com/gallery/Szimv8i ... Interesting interpretation.
13:31 <Cepheid> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6cM3XvD124
13:31 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.
13:31 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about What happens when you smack talk a cat
13:31 <Jackie|Sleep> Goodnight all
13:31 <Jackie|Sleep> It was fun reading the book
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13:36 <Cepheid> Ah, the 2-4 weekend is coming up I see.
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13:44 <Thelema5> Hello eveypony
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13:46 <Cepheid> Hullo
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13:47 <Cepheid> I really, really want a coffee.
13:50 <Thelema5> I really, really hope this is not another gout attack coming on
13:51 <Cepheid> My advice? Get a round of antibiotics ahead of time just in case.
13:53 <Thelema5> Antibiotics, or anti inflamitories?
13:53 <Cepheid> Whatever it is they prescribe for gout.
13:53 <Cepheid> I think it's an anti-inflammatory, yeah.
13:53 <Thelema5> Typically.
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13:57 <Riose3> Hi
13:57 <Thelema5> I'm not usually one to give creedence to folk remedies, I've already taken alieve followed by 1000 mg. vitamin C and am drinking tart cherry juice- I've halted flare ups in the past this way when I catch it quickly enough
13:58 <Thelema5> Hi Riose3
13:58 <Riose3> whatcha doing
13:59 <Thelema5> Working, reviewing a campaign conversion data analysis. Fun!
13:59 <FreezeFrame> Tart cherry is just tasty, though.
13:59 <Riose3> oh
13:59 <Thelema5> It's too strong for me, I have to water it down
13:59 <Riose3> I wish i could live with a mare
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14:00 <Thelema5> You could try donating your time mucking stalls at a horse farm
14:03 <Thelema5> You wouldn't actually be living with a mare, but you would get some one-on-one hoers time
14:04 <Riose3> oh O.o
14:04 <Riose3> like what kind of one on one ^^
14:04 <Riose3> mares are cute
14:06 <Thelema5> Well, you'd be cleaning up after possibly doing some grooming, scraping frogs, that sort of thing. Depends on what the farm needs
14:06 <Riose3> Well depends how good the trainer is. But that would be nice to do
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16:07 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by ExplodingPonyToast: Chill Music: GhostXb - Night Breeze [Orchestral Hip Hop] / John Doe - Building (A New Sun) [Orchestral] [ http://tinyurl.com/mm6dejv ]
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17:03 * Bubble-Berry pokes Thelema5
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17:07 * Thelema5 giggles and squirms
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17:15 * Bubble-Berry rapid fire boops Thelema5 "Oraoraoraoraora ORA!"
17:15 * Thelema5 slow-react counterboops
17:15 <Bubble-Berry> o3o
17:15 <Thelema5> How are you doing, Bubble-Berry?
17:16 <Bubble-Berry> I'm doing alright.
17:16 <Thelema5> Cool beans
17:16 <Bubble-Berry> Listening to some angry goth muzak
17:16 <Bubble-Berry> You?
17:16 <Thelema5> Just working
17:16 <Bubble-Berry> Tight
17:17 <Librarian> owo
17:17 <Thelema5> Listening to Martin Denny
17:18 <Librarian> i wanna play fire emblem already
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17:20 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Story: Autophobia [ http://tinyurl.com/m9aezpt ]
17:21 * Filly_Nightmares licks bubb
17:21 * Filly_Nightmares licks Bubble-Berry
17:21 * Bubble-Berry tastes like sugar.
17:22 * Bubble-Berry is probably bad for fillies. Offers Filly_Nightmares an apple
17:24 <Thelema5> There is lots of sugar in an apple
17:24 <Thelema5> +/- 20 g.
17:24 * Filly_Nightmares chews on Bubble-Berry
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17:27 * Bubble-Berry offers Filly_Nightmares a... Celery? Does celery have sugar? Thelema5?
17:28 <Thelema5> None to speak of
17:28 <Bubble-Berry> Yeah!
17:28 <Thelema5> less than a gram per stalk
17:29 <Bubble-Berry> Still too much!
17:29 * Bubble-Berry offers Filly_Nightmares water, which has literally nothing but hydrogen and oxygen.
17:31 <Thelema5> Unless it's distilled, water will contain any number of minerals, bacteria, salts, metals, hormones, pesticides, etc.
17:32 <Thelema5> Filter down to 1 micron and then distill if you want nothing but hydrogen and oxygen
17:33 <Bubble-Berry> D:
17:34 * Librarian applies raw sugar to bubble berry
17:35 * Bubble-Berry licks
17:35 <Bubble-Berry> I'm not a filly so it's okay
17:36 <Thelema5> That was fast thinking. I was about to brulee you
17:37 * Bubble-Berry applies raw sugar to Thelema5 and prepares the torch
17:37 * Thelema5 ducks and covers, and then stops, drops, and rolls
17:38 * Bubble-Berry brûlées Thelema5
17:38 * Thelema5 screams in agony
17:38 <Thelema5> ( . _ . )
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17:54 <DARK> hello =)
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17:55 <Librarian> hewwo
17:57 <Cepheid> Hoi.
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18:08 * Bubble-Berry softly wryyy's at Thelema5
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18:11 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Silver Quill: Let's Review: Friends Forever #10 [ http://tinyurl.com/mhbp9ud ]
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18:17 <Cepheid> ...
18:17 * Cepheid screams in a fit of utter absolute rage.
18:18 * Bubble-Berry pats Cepheid
18:23 <Thelema5> ... this customer is driving me nuts
18:24 <Thelema5> his live chat session has lasted more than 20 minutes so far; he's asked me just about everything except the color of the drapes
18:26 <Thelema5> It could be a corporate QC shopper, come to think of it
18:27 <Thelema5> Oh, not likely. His IP traces back to White Plains, NY; corporate offices are in Washington
18:28 <Princess-Luna> Maybe he's just lonely
18:28 <Princess-Luna> Woof
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18:29 <Thelema5> Could be. His hostname was from the New York Power Authority; probably some cubical dweller booking a weekend getaway while on the clock
18:35 * Schism mutters, "Why do we even have that lever..."
18:38 <Cepheid> Because it accentuated the drapes.
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18:41 <Cepheid> Geezus it's hot today.
18:41 <Cepheid> 29C.. Humidex of 34C.
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18:44 <Tirek> A breaker trips, and she flips every switch EXCEPT the one that actually tripped. I am angry and mad.
18:44 <Tirek> When the breaker trips, its actually visible and easy to read, too.
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18:45 * Schism passes around some granola bars with milk.
18:46 * Cepheid needs to figure out a viable solution for his server machine. The server and his PC both on in one room is unbearable.
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18:48 <Thelema5> Tirek, some people get flustered working with electic panels
18:49 <Thelema5> They regard them with near superstition and fear of the lightning gods
18:50 <Schism> Considering how computers are, a bit of paranoia and superstition is perfectly reasonable... up to a point.
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18:54 * Cepheid hooks PS4 controller up to PC for FF14. Sounds silly, but havving access to ~16 actions easily makes it easier to do his job.
18:56 <Schism> Ah right, the server's back online. I'll probably pop on in a few, but I think I might wander down to Subway. I have more coupons, including one for a $5 panini and soup combo.
18:56 <Thelema5> Another good deal
18:57 <Thelema5> The only subway coupons I get are for buy one get one free
18:57 <Saerydoth> I tried to play ff14 with a controller once, it didn't work out very well, too limiting
18:57 <Schism> Not quite as good a deal as that $1.50 panini, but yea. Usually those are the ones I get too, but evidently this is a new deal or something.
18:57 <Thelema5> I'll have to be on the lookout for something similar
18:58 <Schism> (Technically, it was a 'buy a drink, get a panini' deal. But...)
18:58 <Cepheid> I may wander to subway at some point myself.
18:58 <Cepheid> I am not cooking in this heat.
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19:01 <Librarian> its hot here too
19:01 <Librarian> and boring
19:01 <Librarian> havent been this bored in ages
19:02 * Thelema5 stands on his hindquarters and juggles for Librarian's entertainment
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19:07 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by We Are Borg: Equestria Girls Special Followup: Dance Magic [ http://tinyurl.com/moshqcu ]
19:08 <Thelema5> Wait... when was the Equestria Girls Special?
19:08 <Thelema5> Did I miss it?
19:08 <matttheshadowman> Last weekend, but only in Poland
19:08 <Thelema5> Oh.
19:09 <Thelema5> Strange
19:09 <matttheshadowman> It was only in Polish too but as is the way it's been subbed already
19:09 <Thelema5> Fan subbed?
19:09 <matttheshadowman> Yeah
19:09 <Thelema5> Heh
19:10 <matttheshadowman> I think it's coming to Netflix in the US first, much like Legend of Everfree last year
19:11 <Ali> First time ever it sucks to be in the US
19:11 <Ali> Canada is way ahead in S7, and Poland got the EG specials started.
19:12 <matttheshadowman> I live in the UK, we got the end of season 6 first
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19:16 <Cepheid> Wonder how Canada managed to get first-airing rights?
19:17 <Reia> We didnt
19:17 <Reia> It was a screw up
19:17 <matttheshadowman> Probably paid Hasbro for the rights as usual and Hasbro never had any clause on when it aired vs. the US airings
19:17 <Reia> No, it was a mistake
19:17 <Cepheid> Ah.
19:18 <Cepheid> Huh. Apparently they made a "spawn everything" cheat for the Wii U version of Breath of the Wild.
19:19 <matttheshadowman> Long as it doesn't spawn a huge army of lynels
19:19 <Cepheid> You can make it spawn anything, including armies of lynels.
19:20 <Cepheid> Apparently, it's been tested with numerous Kings of Hyrule vs a Guardian. Spawning all of the Divine Beast bosses in one area. And numerous other crazy things.
19:20 <Schism> Hum, I still like the colourful cast of characters in the Whateley Universe. Such as Ms. Ryan, a little old lady who's patient and soft-spoken, wears old-fashioned dresses, teaches fashion design, and spent much of her early life terrorizing most of Eastern Europe.
19:22 <Cepheid> Honestly, one thing Nintendo should do to the Switch is add a dual-boot mode. Switch-mode, Android-mode.
19:22 * Schism nods, certainly a good idea...
19:24 <Cepheid> There's a problem with it though. Security of the data on the cards, etc. People would find a way to hack the- Wait, they already broke the OS anyways, so it's moot.
19:25 <matttheshadowman> Only thing similar was the PS3 having the ability to boot in Linux and Sony pulled that feature in an update :/
19:25 <Schism> Cepheid: It took people what, 24 hours to break that thing open like a fresh egg?
19:26 <Cepheid> Pretty much.
19:26 <Cepheid> Turns out the core OS was built using an old package that had a security vulnerability in it's webkit.
19:26 <Cepheid> A vulnerability that was patched TWO YEARS AGO.
19:26 <Cepheid> The devs didn't even try this time around.
19:26 <Schism> At some point, console manufacturers are going to comprehend that there's no such thing as a secure system, and that once the machines are in the hands of their customers, they can and will be broken in twain.
19:27 <Schism> And once they fully comprehend this fact, pigs will fly to the heavens and it will rain gold.
19:27 <Cepheid> Given that the 3DS for the longest time was uncrackable on 11.3.0 or above...
19:27 <Cepheid> Yeah, you're right. Nothing can be done to stop it.
19:28 <Cepheid> The 3DS version 11.3.0 was recently broken due to a vulnerability in it's music player.
19:28 <matttheshadowman> Weren't various games used as back doors for the 3DS before that?
19:28 <Cepheid> Yeah. But after 11.3.0 came out, it was a hard nut to crack.
19:29 <Cepheid> The bootloader was changed so that it'd only start up signed code.
19:30 <matttheshadowman> Hmm, well the Switch has the feel of being rushed out to meet the end of the financial year anyway. Zelda got them out of what could of been a very big hole for them.
19:30 <Cepheid> Unfortunately, the music player for 11.3.0 is flawed. It allocates a buffer of 256 bytes for a certain data field in a common music format, and doesn't do bounds checking when reading and copying the data into said buffer.
19:31 <Cepheid> So a specially crafted audio file could cause arbitrary code execution. Which is exactly what happened. And once the Homebrew Channel got ported to use this vulnerability, the rest was history.
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19:58 <Schism> Hum. Gah, it really did get hot. And I'm thinking that chicken salad and coleslaw is a better bet today.
20:01 <Thelema5> I was thinking of making chicken salad for dinner too
20:02 <Thelema5> The only chicken I have is canned, though
20:02 * Thelema5 shrugs
20:02 <Schism> Still works in a salad, if you have enough mayonnaise.
20:03 <Thelema5> Mayo is never in short supply around my house XD
20:04 <Saerydoth> it's gross lol
20:04 <Saerydoth> the smell of it sets off my gag reflex, let alone the taste
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20:06 <Thelema5> Oh! A coworker just brought pizza, so I guess that settles that
20:06 <Thelema5> Saerydoth, I'm the same way with any seafood
20:07 <Saerydoth> I like fish and shrimp, but I put ketchup on it
20:08 <Thelema5> Somewhere a sea captain weeps, while Henry Heinz laughs from the grave
20:10 * Cepheid goes to find his ancient 5-button mouse.
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20:11 * Schism usually has a mixture of ketchup, worchestershire sauce, and horseradish with his shrimp.
20:11 <Schism> Sometimes with a few drops of hot sauce mixed in.
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20:13 <Princess-Luna> According to Jeff Kaplan, the one unifying thing for all of overwatch's characters is that they all like pineapple on pizza. :P
20:14 <Thelema5> It's a good thing wobniaR isn't here to learn that
20:15 <Princess-Luna> x3
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20:16 <Schism> That's hilarious. X3 And seems appropriate.
20:22 <Cepheid> I am never playing Overwatch. It is full of heathens.
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20:23 * Schism sips some scumble, which is described as having "some qualities of fresh apples in autumn and some of dimethyl hydrazine before liftoff".
20:23 <Princess-Luna> Cepheid: The only heathen here is you, heretic! >[
20:25 <Schism> Also, the troll equivalent of scumble is the 'Electrick Floorbanger'. It's a silver and copper coin, dipped into strong vinegar.
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20:29 <Cepheid> Freakin' vulture of a merchant. *Beats up his bodyguards.*
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20:30 <Schism> "You think you's able to just waltz into Ul'Dah and get interested in his affairs, what? Wrong, boy-o. Folks, show her what we do to folks around here. *10 seconds later* Okay, okay, please don't kill me!"
20:30 <Cepheid> Heh.
20:30 <Cepheid> Ah, the Scions. Wondered when I would join them again.
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20:36 * Schism considers having a highly cured mashing of assorted meats and spices with aged, rotten milk and an extract of allyl isothiocyanate.
20:37 <Cepheid> By the by, Schism. If you ever miss a cutscene because you skipped ahead for one reason or another, go to the Inn. The Unending Journey allows you to view cutscenes again.
20:37 <Schism> Yea, it's a nice log, and probably a good idea to do that in dungeons so I don't get locked out in the future.
20:37 <Cepheid> Aye.
20:37 <Cepheid> That's usually what people do, annoying as it is.
20:38 <Cepheid> People are impatient.
20:38 <Cepheid> Also, I have to ask..
20:38 <Schism> And many times, they've already done the dungeon a couple of times.
20:38 <Schism> Yea?
20:38 <Cepheid> What the HELL is this all over my desk, laptop, phone, keyboard and other devices?
20:38 <Cepheid> It's not dust.
20:38 <Schism> I, uh. Pollen?
20:38 <Cepheid> It looks like dust, but it's not. It's covering everyth- Ah.
20:38 <Cepheid> That would be it, yes.
20:39 <Cepheid> I mean, it looks like dust, but I've never seen dust cover anything this quickly and so evenly.
20:39 * Schism nods, "And as you probably have every window in the house open..."
20:39 <Cepheid> Just my bedroom window actually. I'm trying to cool off my room, but it's above 30 in here and there's no breeze.
20:40 <Schism> We have a couple of fans scattered throughout the apartment, including a nice small one which I'm using to distribute air in here.
20:51 <Schism> Ah. Masato Kato, the lead developer of Chrono Cross, worked for Gainax beforehand. Now everything about that game makes sense.
20:52 <Schism> By which I mean, of course, that it remains as incomprehensible as ever, but at least now there's a reason for that.
20:53 <Schism> (I like how, in CC, the Reptites were actually the good guys. It makes sense. Kinda.)
20:55 <Cepheid> To be honest the entire Chrono series is a clustertruck of a mess. It doesn't help that the translation was... finagled a bit for the games.
20:56 <Schism> Mm, there were a looot of weird translations. I like, tho, how in CC, the characters each have their own accents, which are then applied to whatever they're saying on the fly.
20:59 <Schism> One of these days I'm going to have to play through Crimson Echoes all the way. Though the start, where you control only Magus, is absurdly grindtastic.
21:00 <Schism> (Also, mumble grumble Dalton.)
21:00 <Schism> Suuure, Dalton is a completely hapless character incapable of actually doing anything to hurt your party, even if those golems of his are strong enough to provide a bit of a challenge. Then skip ahead a few years, and he's instrumental in the obliteration of Guardia.
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21:06 <Thelema5|away> Yay for class mobility?
21:06 <Schism> well, he's a huge jerkface noble in the first place.
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21:07 <Librarian> im still bored
21:08 <Librarian> i found the biography of gary gigax
21:08 <Librarian> that sounds promising
21:08 <Thelema5> Of D&D fame?
21:08 <Schism> On the other hoof, Dalton does the party a favor by upgrading the Epoch to become not just a time machine, but a flying time machine. So that helps.
21:08 <Librarian> yep
21:09 <Librarian> the one and only
21:09 <Thelema5> Spoiler: He dies
21:09 <Schism> Gygax had one helluva sendoff, only appropriate for a man of his stature.
21:10 <Thelema5> Oh?
21:10 <Thelema5> Did Johnny Depp blast his ashes into a stratosphere with a 40 foot long cannon?
21:10 <Schism> Almost every D&D fan raised a glass in his honor.
21:10 <Thelema5> *the
21:11 <Thelema5> I guess I missed that party
21:11 <Schism> No, but he also didn't have the resources to cast a cannon in the shape of a double-thumbed fist.
21:12 <Schism> Hunter S. Thompson should have lived a few more years, just so he could write about the current state of the world.
21:12 <Librarian> imma toast to him anyway
21:12 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by ExplodingPonyToast: Music: Neon Lights - Paris By Night [Progressive House] [ http://tinyurl.com/lglfxz4 ]
21:12 * Librarian toasts to gygax
21:13 * Thelema5 lifts a glass of tart cherry juice
21:14 <Schism> Cepheid: I think that the worst translation break in Chrono Trigger was the way that Masa and Mune tell Crono that he should be as the wind - but one of his attacks, 'Slash', is in the Japanese version 'Wind Slash'. This is the key to defeating the pair.
21:16 * Thelema5 goes home
21:16 <Thelema5> bye!
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21:22 <MrKulebyaka> Hey yo
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21:26 <Cepheid> Hum. Me and my parents are currently at an impasse.
21:27 <Schism> Hold the pickle, hold the lettuce, special orders don't upset us... o/`
21:27 <Cepheid> Essentially, given Tizzy's behaviour earlier, I've had enough of the biting for no BLOODY REASON other than I pet her and happened to brush the wrong mat or something in her fur.
21:28 <Cepheid> I told them that if she bites me and hisses and growls at me again, I'm giving her a buzzcut to relieve the pain caused by the mats. My parents aren't too happy with this.
21:28 <Schism> Ah, and so it really is necessary that she be shaved...
21:28 <Cepheid> But at the same time, I bloody deserve the right to touch the cat and not have blood drawn.
21:28 <Schism> Just tell them that you're doing it because it's clearly causing her pain.
21:28 <Cepheid> I did.
21:28 <Cepheid> They insisted it's something *I* am doing to her.
21:29 <Schism> Ah. And when you make an attempt to do so, she'll likely flay the skin from your bones.
21:29 <Cepheid> All I bloody do is pet her. And then all of a sudden she bites down hard on me.
21:29 <Cepheid> If my parents can't take care of her, I will.
21:29 <Cepheid> THat cat is suffering and my parents don't believe she is.
21:31 * Schism nods. "Though there is also this." http://www.galactanet.com/comic/view.php?strip=615
21:32 <Cepheid> That's not what it is.
21:32 <Schism> But honestly, if the mats are getting THAT bad, definitely shave her. She'll be pissed, but... yeah.
21:32 <Cepheid> I can feel mats all over her body, especially near the rear.
21:32 <Cepheid> And when she bites me, she bites bleedingly hard.
21:33 <Cepheid> She draws blood, or bites so hard that when I pull away, I come out with gouges in my arm.
21:33 * Schism winces. "Yeah. Annoying as it sounds, get her to a vet?"
21:33 <Cepheid> Not even Spitfire bites me that hard.
21:33 <Schism> There's a big difference between 'play bites' and that.
21:33 <Cepheid> This is a cat that wants me to pet her, but I can't touch her. I'm bloody afraid to touch her.
21:33 <Cepheid> Because if I do, I'm probably going to get bitten.
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21:34 <Schism> There's play bites, there's warning bites, and then there's 'I'm going to kill you' bites. You definitely need to impress upon your parents that she's going to the vet to get shaved.
21:35 <Cepheid> Unfortunately I doubt anything's going to come of discussion with my parents.
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21:37 <ADragonDreaming> If possible, have mother attempt to apply brush to cat.
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21:44 <Cepheid> Far as I can tell, she doesn't brush the cat all that frequently. I'd expect once or twice a day for a long-haired cat.
21:44 <Cepheid> On top of that, all she ever does is feed the cat treats, and then lock her out of her bedroom at night.
21:44 <Cepheid> That's why I get bitten so much compared to the two of them. I'm the one who has to deal with the cat being around me all the time, since I'm the only one that leaves my bedroom door open.
21:45 <Cepheid> I mean, I just can't ignore a cat begging or bunting me for attention all the time, after all.
21:45 <Cepheid> Even if I am afraid of her biting me, sooner or later her cuteness makes me want o pet her anyways.
21:45 <Schism> Cats do go out of their way to ensure that you don't ignore them. They want to know that their servants are ready and willing to work for them at all times.
21:46 <Cepheid> Yes, well, unfortunately a closed door is one of those things they generally can't solve.
21:46 <Schism> Right up until you get a cat who learns how to open doorknobs and jimmy locks, as one of my prior cats did.
21:47 <Cepheid> I'd believe it to be possible if the door handles were latch-style, not ball style.
21:48 <Schism> No, even ball doorknobs. He'd balance on his hind legs against the door and clasp the knob with a paw, using friction to turn it just enough that the door opened.
21:48 <Cepheid> So poorly-installed latch in the door, then. Similar to the bathroom door here. Push on it hard enough, and it pops open.
21:48 <Schism> It was disconcerting to see in action... yup, it wasn't a tight latch.
21:49 <Schism> I'm pretty sure my dad encouraged that behaviour by giving him treats.
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21:55 <Cepheid> In any case, me and the parents aren't speaking for the moment, so... meh.
21:56 <Cepheid> And eventually I'll be the one to apologize, because you know, that's what the victim does. Also, I live under their roof, yada, yada, yada.
21:57 <Cepheid> Poor cat's gonna keep dealing with all this matting all because my parents are pair of blind pricks.
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22:17 <Schism> "It wasn't that weird. Everypony living around a wild zone knew that things got weird all the time. Wolves made of wood were endemic to the Everfree, for example. But now and again there was an event which required the Anomaly stamp. These messages went straight to the Princess, who took her turn to investigate the possibility of a much larger threat. The Anomaly status had once been abused. Once. Since then, no further
22:17 <Schism> demands on the time of Princess Celestia had been levied unnecessarily."
22:19 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Drawfriend Stuff (Pony Art Gallery) #2262 [ http://tinyurl.com/kdnxmvz ]
22:20 <Cepheid> Mmm. Deep fried Ifrit.
22:20 <Cepheid> Tenderized to perfection by my FISTS.
22:21 <ADragonDreaming> Up for warframe at all?
22:21 <Schism> If he hadn't been nailed to the ground, he'd be pushing up the daisies.
22:22 * Schism listens to the new theme for Stormblood.
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22:25 <Schism> "The Anomaly stamp had come from her guard no fewer than seven times in the past day."
22:25 <Cepheid> Not tonight, no. Sorry.
22:26 <Schism> The Stormblood theme: https://youtu.be/UmQm76wFfKk
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22:31 <Librarian> it seems my alm and celica amiibos arrive before the game proper
22:31 <Librarian> weird
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22:34 <DARK> re
22:34 <Schism> I randomly like how Squeenix handled the data center move. They projected for a long process, and then brought things up earlier than projected. Pay attention, kids. This is how professional products are run.
22:35 <Schism> You prepare everyone for the worst-case scenario, and then do things in preparation for that, and then when things actually turn out right, you can say it was a glorious success.
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22:35 <Schism> Which, in this case, it was.
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22:37 <Schism> Products are never, never completed on time, and so you prepare for a great deal of leeway.
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22:38 * Librarian completes on time stuff
22:38 <Librarian> becuase stuff
22:38 <Schism> Except that you're not a project lead, you're just completing work for the project on time, right?
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22:40 <Schism> I don't mean any offense, and indeed quite the opposite. Your part in the project is a big reason why you don't project things three times long in advance.
22:40 <Schism> Or work with oversized budgets which have to be filled, but that's a different matter.
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22:43 <Schism> No corporate group worth their salt has ever delivered a realistic budget, because 'realistic' means 'what the managers think is likely to be the expense chart, and we don't want to do this on a shoestring and a potato.'
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22:45 <Schism> Managers also have an unrealistic interpretation of the difference between specializations.
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22:52 <Librarian> is this equestria daily?
22:52 <Librarian> no this is patrick
22:52 <Librarian> owo
22:54 <Schism> "I am an EnglishMAAAAAAAN~" *BLAM* "Showtunes are published by summary execution. Now sit down and carry on." "Fine, fine."
22:54 <Schism> Ahem. Showtunes are prohibited on threat of summary execution.*
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23:07 <Cepheid> http://imgur.com/gallery/hiGLW
23:10 <Schism> I hate to admit it, but that's one of my favourite arguments of all time. It's wrong on so many levels that it becomes stupendous.
23:11 <Cepheid> By the logic of that argument, Australia should be several thousand meters underwater, and anyone from that country that we speak to is likely an undead skeleton or bloated corpse talking to us.
23:13 <Schism> Those curious about the etymology, by the way: the term 'theory' relates to a tested and proven set of circumstances. Also, 'proof' means 'test'. The theory has been tested in a whoooole lot of ways.
23:13 <Schism> Yes, a tested and tested set of circumstances.
23:14 <Schism> Gnargl. Be right back. Store run.
23:15 <Schism> Cepheid: I still think my favourite statement by the Flat Earth Society is this: "We have millions of followers all over the globe."
23:17 <Cepheid> Heh, yep.
23:17 <Cepheid> Anyways, I'm off to bed, myself.
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23:19 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: PMV: I C-Can Explain! / Armor / Sound The Bugle [ http://tinyurl.com/lwe4t4n ]
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23:34 <Librarian> my dog is looking at me and he is adorable
23:35 <Librarian> he is hot and needs to cool down
23:36 * Gladiolus fans Librarian and dog with his wings, and then overwatches
23:39 <Schism> "Hey, my dearest aunt, you haven't much call for a half a roasted chicken, would you?" "I would love a half a roasted chicken." "C'mon up!"
23:40 <Schism> And then I sliced the bird in twain and there we went. o3o
23:42 <Schism> And while I could have eaten the whole thing, I'd more likely wind up with a ton of leftovers to throw out. So yay.
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23:45 <Librarian> im gonna go watch telenovelas owo
23:45 <Librarian> see ya tomooow
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23:46 <Schism> I would have probably advised that there are much, much better ways to spend one's time than watching telenovelas.
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23:48 <Schism> Also, my illustrious and mutinous imagination has now led me to imagining the epic of WH40K in the musical stylings of Gilbert and Sullivan.
23:49 <Schism> This is a depressingly frequent occurrence.
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23:50 <Schism> Right now, for example, I'm imagining the Space Wolves taking part in the epic of the HMS Pinafore.
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