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00:18 <Thelema5> The_Nostalgia_Mare, how was it?
00:18 <Thelema5> Looked awful
00:19 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> Funny enough....
00:19 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> Its pretty good.
00:21 <FruitNibbler> I have an idea about VR
00:21 <FruitNibbler> Watching anyone play VR on youtube is nauseating
00:21 <Thelema5> Huh
00:22 <FruitNibbler> Just because it all moves not as your inner ear does
00:22 <Cepheid> FruitNibbler: I've not had any problems with it.
00:22 <FruitNibbler> I mean watching their 1st person view
00:23 <FruitNibbler> Specifically in racing one could offset the recording view to the passenger side of the car and use the youtube 3D function so the viewer could look around too
00:23 <FruitNibbler> That would have been a next step
00:24 <FruitNibbler> Cepheid, I don't have that nauseating feeling when /I/ use VR, but when I watch a perspective of /someone elese's/ VR it is pretty darn headachey
00:25 <Cepheid> Huh.
00:25 <FruitNibbler> I mean VR is rendering a spherical image already for the goggles, may as well just parse that as video feed and take advantage of youtube's 3D view
00:26 <Cepheid> Except it's not rendering the whole sphere.
00:26 <Cepheid> It's only rendering a fragment of that sphere. A bounded region specified by the direction of the goggles according to the various sensors.
00:28 <Cepheid> It *IS* possible to do what you're suggesting, it's just it'd put more strain on the hardware rendering the game.
00:28 <Cepheid> In a few graphics card generations it'll be viable.
00:28 <Cepheid> It'll also increase the bandwidth required by the streamer.
00:29 * Cepheid puts "1 AU to KM" in Google. Gets "1 AU = 1.496e8" "... That's real helpful, Google." </Sarcasm>
00:33 <FruitNibbler> Cepheid, there is a "sarcastamark" being used widely
00:33 <Cepheid> Heh.
00:34 <FruitNibbler> It's ".~" a slanted wavy !
00:34 * Golden got the community center re-opened and the statue of perfection in Stardew Valley!!!
00:34 * FruitNibbler .~
00:34 <FruitNibbler> XD
00:36 <Thelema5> Tomorrow marks the end of my second week with my new employer... I'm starting to feel a bit more confident about everything, as if the job might work out okay. This is of course following two weeks of constant toil and stress. I'll be really hurt now if I get terminated because I've finally started opening up to the idea of it working out.
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00:36 <Thelema5> Working from home has been eye-opening, nonetheless... it's easier, but not really great
00:37 <FruitNibbler> Best of luck to you Thelema5! You will do it!
00:37 <Thelema5> Thanksie!
00:38 <Thelema5> I'm getting tired of just being at home, living and working in the same place. Going out would be nice
00:38 <Thelema5> A change of scenery maybe
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01:01 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Comic: Reliance / Aftermath / Sable 83 / Yourself 240 / Rocket Science [ http://tinyurl.com/y88yhm96 ]
01:07 <Cepheid> Finwe, a math-related question for you. Just a simple yes or no will suffice for an answer: I have a vector represented as a pair of mixed units, so for example: x = 30km, 280m, 32cm. y = 15km, 200m, 64cm. Is there a way to calculate the magnitude while these units are mixed in such a way? (IE: I can't convert the centimeters to meters, or meters to kilometers and vice versa.)
01:09 <Cepheid> At this point I'm starting to think an arbitrary precision library may be a better approach for this problem. That, or just scale things down.
01:11 <Cepheid> Also thinking that I'm overthinking this, now that I examine what I just wrote.
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01:23 <Finwe> A pair of mixed units?
01:23 <Cepheid> Think x/y pairs, each using measurements that are mixed.
01:24 <Cepheid> So for example, one of the pairs is 30km,200m,32cm, while the other is 40km/100m/16cm.
01:24 <Finwe> If you know that they're ordered like that, yes.
01:25 <Finwe> I assume that we're speaking of Euclidean length.
01:25 <Cepheid> Yes.
01:26 <Cepheid> The issue I face is that I have limited accuracy for integers, and I want to use extremely large scales. To use these scales, I have to break the numbers down into multiple parts.
01:26 <Cepheid> Though I guess I could just create a faux 128-bit integer by creating a structure that stores two 64-bit integers and performs math on that.
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01:31 <Cepheid> ... Oh, right. Now I remember how to do it.
01:32 <flutterdash> hello!
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01:35 <Finwe> Centimetres only require 5 decimals, if your basic unit is kilometre.
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01:37 <Golden> Good night everyone ^~^
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01:48 <Cepheid> The problem is, I'm using it as an example of the problem I'm trying to solve. If you want something a bit more suited to my problem, try astronomical units scale. So for example, x = 1au, 250000000km, 350m, 15cm, y = 2au, 180000000km, 100m, 10cm. You convert these to centimeters, meters, kilometers, you immediately exceed the accuracy of a float. You use a double, fine. You go to calculate z^2 = x^2 + y^2. Well, x^2 and
01:48 <Cepheid> y^2 exceed the accuracy of double in this case. It'd be easier if the magnitude could be calculated in separate parts. Calculate the magnitude for the au, then the kilometers, then the meters, then the centimeters, etc. What I'm asking for is probably ridiculous, though.
01:48 <Ali> Geebus :P
01:49 <RazorSharpFang> Cepheid, Just use arbitrary precision floats.
01:49 <Cepheid> That's what I was thinking, yes.
01:50 <RazorSharpFang> I think there's arbitrary precision integers for all platforms/languages, but not so sure about floats.
01:50 <Cepheid> Definitely for floats.
01:50 <Cepheid> But integers may be faster.
01:51 * Ali doesn't even understand the topic!
01:51 <Cepheid> Truth told, I think I'm also just being excessive.
01:51 <RazorSharpFang> I just think of them as classes that encapsulate your native formats in order to be able to leverage them to store numbers outside of their limitations
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02:05 <Cepheid> Actually, I just did a bit of math, there's a better, and simpler solution.
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02:08 <Cepheid> Simplest solution is to just use a 64-bit integer, and set some arbitrary limit on how far away from the origin point an object can be.
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02:23 <Finwe> Mr Starwatcher.
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03:13 <DashedRainbows> I am back again, my small horseys
03:27 * Filly_Nightmares eees
03:28 * DashedRainbows boops the filly
03:31 <Cepheid> I need a break from this.
03:32 * Filly_Nightmares purrs
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03:37 <ADragonDreaming> from what?
03:39 <Cepheid> Problem solving and decision making.
03:39 <ADragonDreaming> ...so you start playing Factorio.
03:39 <Cepheid> Yeah I realized that mistake.
03:40 <Cepheid> I'm gonna go off to play MH4 instead.
03:45 <Filly_Nightmares> o5o
03:51 * Cepheid uses a brachydios as his practice target for getting back into the game. >.>
03:53 <Cepheid> ADragonDreaming: Fun note, MHWorld, you can change your gear during a quest.
04:01 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Low Effect PMV Compilation #186 [ http://tinyurl.com/y9p6gmru ]
04:08 * PinkieShy licks Cepheid
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04:15 <Thelema5> Hello everypony!
04:18 * Ali flails at Cepheid, do they play Skylines?
04:22 * DashedRainbows boops Thelema5
04:24 <Cepheid> Ali: I dunno, I can't read your mind, so I don't know what you want to do. :P
04:24 <Ali> Have you played Cities Skylines?
04:24 <Ali> Cause I need canal helpz
04:25 <Cepheid> I have, but I have not deal with canals.
04:25 <Cepheid> Anyone else here familiar with 'em?
04:26 <Thelema5> Not me
04:28 <Thelema5> I'm just happy because I had a excavation crew here today to dig up a buried oil tank on my property; it was a gamble because it the tank had been leaking it could have cost hundreds of thousands of dollars (that I don't have) to clean up. It's a fairly common problem and one I've been worried about for years.
04:28 <Thelema5> At 11:45 AM the head of the crew reported that the tank is not leaking and I'm 100% in the clear
04:29 * Filly_Nightmares noms Thelema5
04:29 <Thelema5> So that's awesome
04:34 <PinkieShy> Is apple computers worth it
04:34 <PinkieShy> wait nvm.
04:34 <PinkieShy> It really depends now that i asked it lol
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04:42 <Thelema5> We need new pony
04:42 <Thelema5> I wonder if Larsen will come back?
04:42 <Ali> New poni won't be till spring at the earlist
04:43 * Thelema5 noooooes!
04:43 * Ali shoves MLP comics onto Thelema5
04:43 * Thelema5 flailyhooves
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04:47 <FruitNibbler> I hurt everywhere where my body can hurt
04:47 <FruitNibbler> I caught cold :(
04:49 <Thelema5> Oh no!@
04:49 <Thelema5> Being sick is terrible, so sorry!
04:49 <Thelema5> Try to rest and drink lots of water
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05:09 <Snapai> !link https://derpibooru.org/228567
05:09 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this picture is about female muffin queen spread wings throne cute (and 20 more)
05:10 <Filly_Nightmares> Yas
05:11 <Thelema5> Adoabru
05:11 <Thelema5> *adorabru
05:14 <Thelema5> What does it mean when my resting heartrate is 120 beats per minute?
05:15 <Thelema5> I'm pretty sure that's not good. How can I slow it down?
05:16 <Filly_Nightmares> Calm down?
05:16 <Filly_Nightmares> o5o
05:16 <Thelema5> I am calm, just restin at home
05:16 <Thelema5> *resting
05:17 <Cepheid> Measuring one's heart rate is finicky like that. The process of measuring it can actually impact it, because you may stress slightly about it.
05:17 <Cepheid> Ultimately though? Deep breathing exercises, and DON'T move while taking the reading.
05:17 <Filly_Nightmares> My heartrate is 52. o6o
05:17 <Cepheid> Your arm should be still.
05:17 <Cepheid> Meanwhile, for breathing, breath in slowly over say, 5 seconds. Hold for a second. Release over 5 seconds. Hold for a second. Repeat.
05:17 <Filly_Nightmares> I used my phone's sensor
05:18 <Thelema5> Cepheid, I did all of that
05:19 <Thelema5> I'm scared now, my heart is beating like I just ran a race even though I'm not doig anything at all
05:20 <Cepheid> I'd only be concerned if it stayed there forever, over the course of a number of days. Go drink a tall glass of water, watch a TV show you like, and take the measurement again in an hour or two.
05:20 <Snapai> Thelema5, well yeah, you're panicking. :p
05:21 <Cepheid> But yes, now you're panicking, so taking a measurement now isn't going to help.
05:21 * Thelema5 tries to settle into a normal routine type thing
05:22 <Thelema5> Thanks?
05:23 <Thelema5> I guess maybe this is an anxiety thing, even though my day has been pretty chill
05:25 <Thelema5> Found out I wont have to pay $$$$ for EPA cleanup fees, so that's nice
05:26 <Princess-Luna> My day has been too chill...literally. xD
05:26 <Snapai> https://derpibooru.org/tags/the+secret+life+of+fleur+dis+lee - this is a pretty neat comic.
05:26 <Princess-Luna> Spring needs to be here
05:26 <Thelema5> Princess-Luna I agree 100%
05:27 <Thelema5> Eff this cold weather stuff!!
05:27 <Princess-Luna> I do not winter well
05:27 <Cepheid> I'd check my blood pressure and pulse right now, but I *KNOW* that the values are going to be high.
05:27 <Cepheid> I can feel it with how wound up I am.
05:27 <Thelema5> Me either
05:30 * Ali sneaks up on Princess-Luna
05:30 <Cepheid> I have found a truly absurd way to solve my problem.
05:33 <Cepheid> It reduces accuracy for calculations by a small margin, but not enough to be noticeable. And the math I wanted was mostly to be used for either A) Showing how far away something is, or B) AI determining if it should use the faster travel method or not to approach something distant. So it works either way.
05:34 * Princess-Luna boops ali and then goes to bed! xD
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05:36 * Cepheid goes to write this down, as this little trick will save him a headache in the future.
05:37 <Cepheid> The fact that it works actually distresses me a bit.
05:40 <RazorSharpFang> Is it something like approximating the log(base10) of a number by counting the digits?
05:41 <Cepheid> Not quite.
05:42 <Cepheid> It's... tricky to explain, but involves stupid math.
05:44 <Cepheid> I take the X and Y delta between two points A and B. I divide the deltas by the square root of the largest possible signed value of the data type that X and Y are. I then square the deltas, add them, calculate square root, and then multiply the result by the earlier square root of the data type. It prevents overflow/NaN at the cost of reduced accuracy, but the result is "good enough" for the purposes I need.
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05:47 <Cepheid> It's stupid, but it works.
05:47 <Cepheid> And it's faster than using arbitary precision libraries.
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06:00 <RazorSharpFang> Yeah, that makes sense
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06:02 <Cepheid> It's just that the units I'm dealing with are so large, that if I attempt to use them as is in a distance calculation, I'll get an immediate overflow.
06:03 <RazorSharpFang> Why couldn't you just divide everything by a metric? i.e.: Deal with light-years instead of kilometres ?
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06:04 * Cepheid checks something.
06:05 * Cepheid stabs RazorSharpFang.
06:05 <RazorSharpFang> What.
06:07 <Cepheid> Your idea worked. I could have just divided by a constant such as AU or c.
06:07 <RazorSharpFang> Oh.
06:07 <RazorSharpFang> Is that a yay?
06:07 <Snapai> It's a SHARP yay.
06:07 <RazorSharpFang> >.>
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06:08 <Cepheid> Yes, it is.
06:08 <Cepheid> Really it's the same process, actually.
06:08 <Cepheid> The only difference is instead of using the square root of 2^63 - 1, for my current testing, I just divide by AU.
06:08 <Cepheid> Either way, the value is constant, so..
06:09 <Cepheid> If anything, using the smaller value increases the accuracy slightly.
06:10 <Cepheid> Increases the chance of an overflow, but if I keep my coordinates below a certain value, which I can calculate, it shouldn't overflow.
06:10 <DashedRainbows> I'm going to sleep now. Good night horses
06:12 <Cepheid> G'night.
06:13 <Snapai> Cepheid, so you're saying RazorSharpFang's idea is....gold? X3
06:14 <Cepheid> Before I die, I will kill you.
06:19 * Cepheid hates puns. He considers them punishable by death.
06:19 <Cepheid> That pun was unintentional.
06:24 <Cepheid> I am of the belief that my sister is trying to kill me and my parents.
06:26 <Cepheid> Me and my parents are diabetic. My sister decided, over Christmas, to bake. So she baked. And made so many cookies that it fills three metal cookie tins, you know, those tins that you always find filled with sewing tools and such.
06:26 <Cepheid> And left them all here.
06:27 <Cepheid> And I re-iterate, me and my parents are diabetic. On top of this, she and her husband also bought each of us a huge box of chocolates.
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06:29 <Cepheid> ... It's -34C with the wind out there. Out of curiousity, if that orange cat were to come by tonight, would it be wrong of me to lock my cats out of the patio room, and then let the orange cat in to get some warmth?
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06:38 <Filly_Nightmares> Nini
06:39 <Cyan_Spark> o.o;
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06:41 <Cepheid> You get used to it, Cyan_Spark.
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06:46 <CleverDerpy> hiya
06:49 <Cyan_Spark> pony?
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06:52 <CleverDerpy> yus~
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06:54 * Cepheid jumps up and down on CleverDerpy's head in the base.
06:55 * Cepheid noms on sardines.
06:59 * Snapai wobbles.
07:00 <Cepheid> https://cat-cosplay.tumblr.com/ ... Are you kidding me?
07:01 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Nightly Roundup #1450 [ http://tinyurl.com/y9gsfu4y ]
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07:15 <CleverDerpy> ?
07:15 <Cepheid> Given this weather, I think when it warms up a bit, and I acquire some money, I'm gonna get a couple of plastic tubs, stack 'em with non-toxic, safe insulation in between, and then cut an opening into them.
07:16 <Cepheid> CleverDerpy: Disgaea. o3o
07:16 <CleverDerpy> oki
07:16 <CleverDerpy> what are sardines?
07:17 <Starwatcher> derpy
07:17 * Starwatcher hugs
07:17 * Starwatcher hugs!
07:17 <Cepheid> CleverDerpy: Small fishies that are really salty.
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07:25 <Snapai> I am now gonna sleep like a log. https://twitter.com/Snapai/status/946642741588578304 :D
07:25 <Snapai> gnight n_n
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07:27 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> CleverDerpy!
07:31 <Cepheid> Okay, that's cool.
07:31 <Cepheid> So, through data mining, players have found various chalice dungeon glyphs that lead to unused bosses in the game.
07:31 <Cepheid> Among other things.
07:32 <Cepheid> Alas, I cannot test these glyphs myself.
07:32 <Cepheid> However, "sikgc3sm" is one, and leads to an unused variant of the true final boss. Another is "arkhv2vs" which leads to an unused, unfinished boss arena with an unused boss.
07:33 <Cepheid> In either case, the only way to leave is to fall to one's death.
07:33 <Cepheid> By leaving the area's visible bounds.
07:34 <Cepheid> There's other glyphs as well, but it's advised before doing *ANY* of them to make a backup of your save, somehow.
07:35 <Cepheid> As some of the dungeons outright lack a way to leave.
07:35 <Starwatcher> hi Cyan Spark
07:36 <Cyan_Spark> Hi
07:37 <Starwatcher> how's it goin
07:37 * Starwatcher rolls over
07:37 <Cyan_Spark> It goes sleepy
07:38 <Cyan_Spark> Nap pone
07:40 <Starwatcher> bai
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07:50 <Cepheid> Bloody regressions. Linux update fubared my laptop's screen.
07:51 <Cepheid> Set it to run at 40Hz rather than 60Hz.
07:52 <Cepheid> Noticed that browser performance and the like was down, so I investigated. Turns out the latest Kernel for whatever reason assumes that the lowest frequency available on the display is the preferred frequency.
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07:57 <Cepheid> https://imgur.com/t/cats/JG1ZT
07:57 <Starwatcher> wow hate that
07:57 <Starwatcher> which distro
08:02 <Cepheid> Archlinux. Normally works great for me. Appears to be a known issue in the driver, though, so it'll likely be fixed later. It wasn't too difficult to fix, though.
08:02 <Cepheid> Just added a Modeline and forced the display to use it.
08:04 * Cepheid checks to see if the logs indicate what went wrong.
08:06 <Cepheid> Alas, nope.
08:12 <Cepheid> You know, I think I prefer spicy stuff over sweets.
08:15 <RazorSharpFang> capsaicin?
08:17 <Cepheid> Pure capsaicin might be a bit much.
08:18 <Starwatcher> polonium
08:18 <Starwatcher> yum
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08:23 <Cepheid> I'm half-asleep, that means it's time for silly music.
08:23 <Cepheid> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMUEFZXkmDA
08:23 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Its a Secret - Yume Nikki HD (Song from Battle Block Theater Secret Easter Egg)
08:26 <Cepheid> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJGripBLSbY
08:26 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about CATS CAN FLY - Flippin' To The A Side
08:30 <Cepheid> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=penvn9VL32Y This song's good. It's the video that's silly.
08:30 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Modest Mouse - Dashboard
08:34 <Cepheid> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otCpCn0l4Wo And every collection of terrible music/terrible videos must be completed with this.
08:34 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about MC Hammer - U Can't Touch This
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10:50 * Schism wakes up, having slept for 12 hours straight.
10:51 <WurstPoni> sounds horrifying
10:51 <Schism> I hate when it happens.
10:52 <WurstPoni> prefer to just keep sleeping?
10:54 <Schism> Prefer not sleeping that long.
10:54 <WurstPoni> was it not relaxing?
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11:01 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Morning Discussion #1082 [ http://tinyurl.com/y7m4g52f ]
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12:01 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Season 8 Stuff Getting Nuked on Youtube, Including Stuff Before the Leak [ http://tinyurl.com/y8ut6a3h ]
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12:41 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Princess-Luna
12:41 * Schism flops, and provides Princess-Luna with a cup of espresso.
12:48 * Schism also waits for banana bread to be ready.
12:49 * Princess-Luna banana's
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13:03 <Schism> Princess-Luna, of course. With extra BANANA!
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14:01 * Schism passes oven-warm banana bread all around.
14:03 * Princess-Luna appreciates greatly
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14:29 * Schism also provides some to FreezeFrame.
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14:44 <Finwe> o3o
14:44 <Finwe> Good afternoon, my perissodactyls of minute stature.
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14:51 <Schism> rAdm. Finwe.
14:51 * Schism doffs a banana nut muffin.
14:52 <Finwe> Mr Schism.
14:53 * Finwe doffs his bottle of mineral water.
15:01 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by ExplodingPonyToast: Music: Budzy - Crusher [Dubstep] [ http://tinyurl.com/y6uaemba ]
15:01 <Starlight_Glimmer> Leaked episodes? Quick someone tie Princess-Luna to a chair!
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15:06 <Thelema5> Hello everypony
15:17 * Schism waves to the Thelema5, offers some banana, carrot, date and raisin muffins.
15:17 <Finwe> Mr Thelema5.
15:17 * Finwe offers some green tea to Thelema5.
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15:34 <Schism> ... https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DSDXOOBXcAAZ34r.jpg:large
15:37 <FruitNibbler> That's condescending
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15:54 <Schism> Oh my word. The Playstation 4 has a certain type of crash dump which includes 16 bits of the kernel. This has now been used to crash the console, over and over again, to reconstruct the entire kernel.
15:55 <Schism> 16 bytes*
15:59 <Schism> Switch homebrew software: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DSJ8ukjWkAAZMST.jpg
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16:27 * Princess-Luna noms Schism with 16 bites
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16:40 * Finwe boops a Dekko.
16:40 <Finwe> Det är ganska länge sedan sist.
16:45 <Dekko> Finwe: Hej.... God Jul i efterskott :)
16:45 <Dekko> Och God fortsättning :)
16:46 * Dekko boops a finwe back
16:46 <Finwe> Tack detsamma.
16:46 * Finwe hugs a Dekko.
16:46 * Dekko hugs a finnish 'we' :)
16:46 <Dekko> Why no mämmi at christmas? :D :D
16:46 <Dekko> Wasn't home for easter this year so couldn't stock up either ;-)
16:49 <Finwe> I don't know. For some reason it is only enjoyed in Eastertide.
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17:01 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Story: Clue - Who Killed Home Body? [ http://tinyurl.com/yb53bd2q ]
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17:12 <Schism> There is a petition to have The Last Jedi struck from Star Wars canon. But alas! If you strike it down...
17:13 <Verandure> There is no Star Wars canon. =P
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17:20 <Schism> Hmm. CCP are trying to create a new MMORPG.
17:23 <Verandure> Destined for failure. MMOs are a dead species! Dead, I say!
17:25 * Finwe hats on Verandure.
17:26 * Verandure now has a hat to protect from the frigid 0C weather!
17:26 * Schism grumps. It's -11 out there.
17:27 * Verandure is a Texas. 0 is apocalypse weather. 0C is Hell, Texas freezing over!
17:27 * Schism would bite Verandure, but can't get to San Fran at the moment.
17:27 <Schism> Oh right, Texas. Heh. :S
17:27 <Lumin> '-'
17:27 * Lumin wraps self around Veran to warm
17:28 * Verandure bites Schism, instead? =P
17:28 <Verandure> Hiya, Lumin.
17:28 <Lumin> Hiya
17:28 * Schism boops Lumin with a book with a face on its cover. A face book, as it were.
17:28 <Lumin> jaiaefj
17:28 <Lumin> why'd you boop me with Cognitome?
17:28 <Lumin> D:
17:29 <Lumin> That book already looks like it wants to die
17:29 <Schism> I'unno. XD
17:30 <Schism> Also, I didn't: I poked you with Omnitome. https://img2.finalfantasyxiv.com/accimg/86/47/8647c30442395600ad58aa6f8b3c9f6b9e7b3637.png
17:31 <Lumin> same thing
17:31 <Lumin> it has the creepy face
17:31 <Schism> Nah, this one's an SMN weapon.
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17:32 <Lumin> oh
17:32 <Lumin> Cognitome is the SCH one
17:32 <DashedRainbows> Ma horseys!
17:32 <Schism> I choose to believe they are brothers. o3o
17:40 <Verandure> Hiya, DashedRainbows! =P
17:41 <Finwe> Miss DashedRainbows.
17:41 * Finwe doffs his hat and hugs a DashedRainbows.
17:41 * DashedRainbows curtsies
17:42 <roflin> somehow that triggered "be our guest" in my head.
17:42 <Verandure> This is acceptable.
17:43 <DashedRainbows> How goes it, Verandure
17:43 <Verandure> It goes unwaveringly onwards. How's 'bout you, DashedRainbows? =3
17:44 <DashedRainbows> I'm not dead yet, I think that's good
17:45 <Verandure> This is good.
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18:01 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Roundtable is Magic Interviews Britt McKillip (Princess Cadance Voice Actress) [ http://tinyurl.com/y8kelna7 ]
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18:04 <Schism> Interview~
18:04 * Schism has one lined up for Tuesday.
18:04 <Verandure> Gratz
18:04 <Verandure> I hope it goes well.
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18:05 <Schism> Thanks. It's a little part time one, but that's fine.
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18:21 * Schism yawns, and boops pones with some sweet and spicy pickles.
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18:28 <Schism> Hm, I'd missed this. EA reduced the cost of heroes in campaign mode for Battlefront by 75%. They then reduced how many credits you earn from campaign mode by 75%.
18:29 <Schism> cost of heroes for Battlefront*
18:35 <Princess-Luna> BF2 is a mess, and it will remain a mess because of its design philosophy
18:37 <Lumin> EA are dumb
18:37 <Lumin> Luna, however, isn't
18:37 * Lumin boops luna snoot
18:38 * Princess-Luna crashes! @.@
18:38 <Lumin> o.o
18:38 <Lumin> Dangit Luna
18:38 * Lumin reboots
18:38 * Princess-Luna noms Lumin
18:39 <Lumin> eep!
18:39 * Lumin is nomd
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18:51 <Golden> I found the glory of AAO
18:52 <Schism> Tell me, pray tell! Have you seen Aviary Attorney?
18:53 <Schism> It's on sale right now. Here's the trailer. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zuGJOdyoLo4
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19:01 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Slightly Uncanny Sweetie Bot Project Jingle Bells [ http://tinyurl.com/yap7ulax ]
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19:01 <Jahnesta> Heyy
19:02 * DashedRainbows barks at Jahnesta
19:02 * Schism wurfs.
19:02 * Jahnesta Mews and curls up on DashedRainbows
19:03 * DashedRainbows pets the Jahnesta
19:04 * Jahnesta Rolls on his back and purrs
19:09 <DashedRainbows> How goes it?
19:15 <Jahnesta> Drawing Mario now! :P
19:15 <Jahnesta> How about you.
19:15 <Jahnesta> ?
19:22 <DashedRainbows> Was reading
19:26 <Jahnesta> Oki :3
19:33 <Princess-Luna> https://twitter.com/MEdwardsVA/status/946817607642091520 - This makes my soul hurt. >.>
19:34 <Lumin> ........
19:34 <Princess-Luna> Yes.]
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19:39 <DashedRainbows> Wow
19:39 <Lumin> I don't want to live on this planet anymore
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19:47 <Pony|59070> Paco Yo!
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19:47 <Paco> Heya Jahnesta
19:47 <Paco> what's up?
19:47 <Jahnesta> What's good?
19:47 <Jahnesta> Not much, drawing Mario
19:48 <Paco> I've been having some problems with my computer, but I think I found the cause at least
19:48 <Paco> Drawing is usually fun ^^
19:49 <Jahnesta> That's why you where gone for so long.
19:49 <Jahnesta> ?
19:49 <Paco> Mostly, yes
19:49 <Paco> Combination of being busy with school and computer breaking down just before the holidays
19:50 <Jahnesta> :/
19:50 <Paco> Well it hasn't frozen yet, so I am keeping my fingers crossed
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19:51 <Nuclear> I find it funny how, in 1987 - 1988, the USSR managed to put two 80-tonne spacecraft into orbit, despite having only 1/4th the GDP and 1/5th the GDP per capita of the USA.
19:52 <Lumin> dem crafty russianas
19:54 <Jahnesta> Did you know googeling "Apollo 11 Mission" takes up as much computer power as the entire mission itself?
19:55 <Paco> it's almost unimaginable how much computers have improved
19:57 <Jahnesta> Yus
19:57 <Nuclear> The USSR also had a more powerful supercomputer than the USA or Japan in the first half of the 1980s, and was the first computer to employ a parallel-vector architecture. It's estimated they were at least a decade ahead of the rest of the world in computer technology.
19:58 <Nuclear> The Pentium processor used superscalar technology that was invented as part of the Elbrus architecture that came out of the USSR in 1978.
19:58 <Nuclear> All processors available today employ the same technology.
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20:00 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Drawfriend Stuff (Pony Art Gallery) #2487 [ http://tinyurl.com/ybsyc54a ]
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20:17 <roflin> y
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20:20 * Filly_Nightmares noms roflin
20:21 * Schism rolls over and boops Filly_Nightmares with a banana bread!
20:25 * Filly_Nightmares noms the bread and sticks her floof into Schism's mouf!
20:35 <DashedRainbows> Hmm, I need a new calendar already
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20:50 <roflin> noes i has been nommed
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21:01 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Captain Celeano and Spike are Walmart Exclusives [ http://tinyurl.com/y95jp6hm ]
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21:24 * Cepheid awakens.
21:31 <Tirek> Welcome to awake
21:31 * Schism notes this to Cepheid. https://www.therecord.com/news-story/8026671-more-work-needed-to-reduce-cat-overpopulation-in-canada-report/ - "Good news overall..."
21:31 <Cepheid> Princess-Luna, Lumin: That's what happens when reviewers are biased.
21:32 <Tirek> I have come out of hiding to share this image
21:32 <Tirek> https://68.media.tumblr.com/9669382554998b03326185379809b943/tumblr_p1ensnLfY71rd467bo1_1280.jpg
21:32 <Tirek> It is adorable.
21:32 <Cepheid> Schism: It's a sad thing, but that is the reality of pets in North America, not just cats.
21:32 <Cepheid> So many abandoned cats, dogs, bunnies and clownfish.
21:33 <Schism> Indeed. Though many consider cats (and bunnies, I suppose) much more 'disposable' than dogs. Which is sick.
21:33 <Cepheid> Estimated 9.3 million cats. An estimated 36 million or so people live in Canada.
21:33 <Cepheid> That's less than one cat a person.
21:33 <Cepheid> What the hell?
21:35 <Cepheid> Meanwhile, regarding cats... I've decided that if I see that orange cat outside in the freezing cold at night, it's coming indoors. My mother agrees with me on this matter.
21:36 * Schism NODS.
21:36 <Schism> Oh. Cepheid. When you speak with your doctors, make sure that if they're using Apple products, they MAKE SURE of the medication name they write for you.
21:37 <Cepheid> Oh no. What medication name is being autocorrected?
21:38 <Schism> A lot of them.
21:39 <Cepheid> As far as I know, my doctors use Windows tablets.
21:44 * Schism nodnods, "And the hospital at least uses Citrix on Windows boxen."
21:45 * Cepheid tests some code and launches Schism 25.10 AU away at a speed of 5 AU a second.
21:47 <Cepheid> 5 AU/second is... Almost 2,500 times the speed of light. >.>
21:50 <Cepheid> I'm solving the tunneling problem by... Explaining it away as travelling through some sort of interdimensional tunnel.
21:51 <Cepheid> So space ships travelling at these insane speeds won't be able to collide with stuff.
21:52 <Schism> Or at least, the odds are infinitesemal.
21:53 <Cepheid> Eh. You'd be surprised.
21:53 <Cepheid> I've played Elite Dangerous, and nearly flew into a star on numerous accounts. And planets.
21:54 <Schism> Oh, I meant in that hyperspace case. Space is mostly empty, but there's still a lot of stuff scattered throughout to snag the unwary.
21:54 <Cepheid> Aye.
21:54 <Cepheid> The tunneling issue I mentioned is an issue related to simulating movement over long distances.
21:55 <Cepheid> When you apply a movement vector to an object, it's an instantaneous displacement.
21:55 <Cepheid> Problem is, since each "step" of the simulation is discrete instead of continuous, there's no easy way around this detail.
21:57 <Cepheid> You can do a few different things to alleviate it. ALl with their own problems. You can decrease the period between each step. This of course increases processing time, since the simulation is now being processed at N ticks per second, instead of M ticks a second, where M < N.
21:58 <Cepheid> You can just ignore it. But then you run the risk of suffering the tunneling problem wherein an object can potentially go through walls, people, planets, without having any effect on them or interacting with them.
22:00 <Cepheid> And, the preferred approach, perform a colission check using the object's position and it's movement vector. If anything intersects the vector, the object, and it's new position, there's a colission. It's the simplest of the "preferred approaches" though, and has it's issues.
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22:02 <Cepheid> The final approach is just a modification of the previous approach. Only when an intersection is detected, you calculate the time object A would have intersected with object B, or orbject B's path, and place the objects where they would be at that moment in time, and determine if they would have collided or not.
22:02 <Cepheid> It's a bit more complicated to perform, though. In any case, I'd rather not deal with colissions with such high speeds as 5 AU/second.
22:03 <Cepheid> Despite the vastness of the simulation I'm planning, we all know that there'd be those players who just don't pay attention and keep slamming into Uranus.
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22:07 <Schism> But of course. Or those who don't want to pay attention.
22:08 <Schism> I want to say that you could cut back on granularity for higher speeds.
22:09 <Cepheid> Hmm? What do you mean?
22:09 <Cepheid> I'm just using 5 AU/sec. The speed will go anywhere between 0 and 5 AU/sec.
22:10 <Cepheid> I'm thinking of liming the speed to 5 AU/sec maximum, given that at that speed, you could cross our solar system in about 12-15 seconds.
22:13 <Schism> Nevermind, I was thinking of something a bit different there, sorry. But mm, makes sense there. At least, for in-system speeds.
22:13 <Cepheid> Er, limiting*
22:13 <Cepheid> Inter-system will be done by warp gates.
22:14 <Cepheid> I am not going to figure out how I can fit multiple solar systems into the range of various computer data types without using arbitrary precision mathematics.
22:15 <Cepheid> I spent at least six hours figuring out how to get away with calculating Euclidean distances without causing an overflow using the data types available on modern PCs.
22:24 <Cepheid> I'm gonna spend today doing design work, I think, instead of coding.
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22:34 <Cepheid> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6_kB5nFUmQ
22:34 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.
22:34 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Baby bats running amok
22:35 <Cepheid> Look, it's Surry as a baby!
22:39 * Schism eeee!
22:39 <Cepheid> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WaPXhYaFReY I always thought full-grown bats were these ugly looking things, but this..
22:39 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.
22:39 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Please don't take my banana away!
22:41 <Schism> Om nom banana.
22:42 <Schism> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVz8rvIl_vY > Eeee.
22:42 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Juvenile bat squeaks while being petted.
22:43 <Cepheid> So, our neighbors took in a new cat, right?
22:43 <Cepheid> Well, I can see the new cat through their dining room window, with their other cat.
22:43 <Cepheid> The two are licking one another aggressively.
22:43 <Schism> Hmm. Spitfire and Tizzy aren't around to look at them, I take it.
22:44 <Cepheid> Nope.
22:44 <Cepheid> Not even sure they'd notice or care.
22:44 <Schism> Well, considering how they react to Naranja...
22:44 <Cepheid> That cat in particular sits right up against the patio door.
22:45 <Cepheid> They're less than a couple feet apart, separated by sturdy glass.
22:45 <Fn> I changed my robes wthile having fever
22:45 <Cepheid> That's why they react the way they do.
22:45 <Fn> Man that was challenging
22:45 <Schism> Cepheid: Somewhat more akin to an invasion then.
22:45 <Fn> Like the hands shook so violently I almost ripped my clothes
22:45 <Cepheid> If you're out of it that badly, Fn, then I'd argue you have the flu, because that's how I felt when I caught the flu a few years back and I felt terrible.
22:45 <Cepheid> I could barely stand or move around.
22:46 <Cepheid> Schism: More or less.
22:46 <Fn> Yes it is a flu my sister's friend brought me
22:46 <Cepheid> Our cats reaction is to try and pounce the orange cat, and end up slamming into glass for their efforts.
22:46 <Fn> Because that was the last contact
22:46 <Schism> Fn: Ewww. Lie down and drink a lot more fluids.
22:46 <Cepheid> The cat's familiar with glass, though, as he doesn't react to their attempts to attack.
22:46 <Cepheid> But yes, Fn, lay down, drink fluids, and rest.
22:47 <Cepheid> And some further advice, if you start "feeling fine" so to speak, don't go doing anything for another day or two at least.
22:47 <Fn> I am huddled around a sealed water bottle with hot water in it and dressed like I am on a ski resort and under the blanky too
22:47 <Cepheid> Nothing like thinking you feel fine, then go off to do chores or work, and suddenly you relapse and you're confined to bed for another week.
22:47 <Fn> I know that effect
22:47 <Schism> Last time I was shaking so hard that it hurt my muscles was when I was in the hospital for DKA.
22:48 <Fn> What's DKA?
22:48 <Schism> Diabetic ketoacidosis. Which also involves its share of shaking, nausea, chills, et cetera, but probably isn't your thing.
22:49 <Fn> Oh my. That's a harsh condition
22:49 <Schism> It is, yes.
22:49 <Cepheid> I've never encountered it, myself.
22:49 <Cepheid> Diabetic ketoacidosis is when your blood sugar drops excessively low, right?
22:50 <Schism> The contrary.
22:50 <Cepheid> Extremely high, then.
22:50 <Fn> It's when your body can't metabolise the sugars, and instead burns fats. Which produces ketones and makes your blood acidic.
22:50 <Fn> Hence the name.
22:50 <Cepheid> Yeah, see, that's what I thought my nausea was the other night. But like I said, at the time I was suffering the nausea, my blood-sugar was 11.9.
22:51 <Cepheid> And given I've had it go up to ~20 or so when I consume a lot of sweets..
22:51 <Fn> Schism, ever considered training an anaerobic breathing capacity to have a bigger margin?
22:51 <Schism> Not... really?
22:51 <Schism> Cepheid: But so long as it's not for an extended period of time, not likely to cause DKA effects.
22:51 <Cepheid> No, the strangest thing I've dealt with regarding my blood-sugar at all as of recently was during the period before my last exam.
22:52 <Fn> (the breath-hold divers are exceptionally good at dealing with ketones without getting ketoacidosis when they hold their breath for extreme lengths of time)
22:52 <Cepheid> I started getting the stomach pains as usually indicated with low or high blood-sugar(Or perhaps just drastic changes in blood-sugar?), but on top of that, a new symptom. Excessive dizziness and weakness.
22:52 <Fn> Fun fact: one extended breath-hold dive may make a swimmer up to 6 kg lighter (far burned)
22:52 <Cepheid> I felt like I was going to fall over.
22:52 <Schism> Fn: Ah... not quite the same thing. We're talking about being at 30+ in blood sugar for days.
22:53 <Fn> Not trying to be a snarky pants here, Schism. Your body is your and your doctor knows better.
22:53 <Schism> Nah, I know what you mean. Different stuff, though, I'm a Type-1 diabetic.
22:53 <Fn> Oh, sorry.
22:54 <Cepheid> Schism: Sweet geezus. Even I've never gone above 30. I've never seen it go above 21. It usually re-asserts itself to 10-11 within a couple of hours.
22:54 <Schism> Yeah, let's just say that 30 is hospitalization time.
22:55 <Cepheid> What the hell were you eating those days?
22:55 <Cepheid> Cupfuls of sugar?
22:55 <Cepheid> Jars of honey?
22:55 <Cepheid> ... Corn syrup?
22:55 <Schism> No, this is what happens when I don't take enough insulin and let it build up.
22:55 <Schism> Or forget to take the ultralente.
22:56 <Cepheid> Ah. Yeah, I take metformin. That said, my pancreas still works to degree as well, so..
22:56 <Schism> Or when I was first diagnosed. Interestingly, at that point I was throwing up nonstop, and my folks thought the best way to deal with it was to give me orange juice.
22:56 <Cepheid> I've been controlling my sugar as best as I can, too. I've switched sugars out for spicy foods and sausages.
22:56 <Fn> I know capsaicin has a knock-down effect on sugar levels. A documented phenomenon (in type 2 diabetes only though), but still not understood at all
22:57 <Cepheid> Still sugars in those, yes, I know, but not as much as a can of pepsi or a chocolate bar.
22:57 <Schism> A study at the University of Waterloo, I believe, found that when the pancreas was injected with capsaicin, it occasionally helped to spark it into action.
22:57 <Fn> I drink so much liquid (4-6l/day) that diabetes type 2 won't hit me any time soon
22:57 <Cepheid> So, basically, my eating pepperoncini is a good thing.
22:58 <Fn> Au contrair I can wash something away that I need and get, say, muscle cramps
22:58 <Cepheid> Fn: Your eating habits don't really determine whether or not you'll get diabetes. Only the when, and even then there's still an element of randomness.
22:58 <Schism> Cepheid: Hey, capsaicin is healthy in general. :S
22:58 <Cepheid> Your genetics can certainly contribute to it.
22:59 <Fn> Cepheid, at that rate I can afford to wash the excess sugars out through urine
22:59 <Cepheid> I mean, case in point, there are morbidly obese people out there who eat more sugar than I do, and they haven't developed diabetes somehow.
22:59 <Cepheid> Of course, they have *OTHER* problems to deal with, but yeah.
22:59 <Fn> And the best thing: I grew up drinking this much, so that in itself is not damaging my body
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23:00 <Cepheid> Speaking of fluids and such, my parents bought me an insulated water bottle.
23:00 <Cepheid> I should keep it filled with ice and water.
23:00 <Fn> Cepheid, there are some genes that seem to be crucial in regulation of sugars and not all people have these genes in sufficient quantity (or they have them deactivated for some odd reason)
23:01 <Fn> I am lucky to know that no one had sugar issues in my family
23:01 <Cepheid> In my case, likely recessive genes. Both parents are diabetic.
23:01 <Fn> Actually an opposite: my ancestors binged on sweet things without consequences
23:02 <Cepheid> So the genes in question are either few in number, or deactivated/dormant.
23:02 <Fn> We need more NNs researching genes!
23:02 <Fn> Gotta fix them all!
23:02 <Cepheid> I want genes to fix my male-pattern baldness.
23:02 <Fn> (NN == Neural Network)
23:02 <Cepheid> I figured.
23:03 <Schism> Fn: Thinking about fold.it?
23:03 * Cepheid is a computer scientist. :P
23:03 <Fn> Schism, in fact I am playing foldit for BOINC team
23:03 * Cepheid is not a neural network person, though.
23:03 <Cepheid> I actually don't really know what I should specialize in.
23:03 <Schism> Fn: Sweet. I should reinstall that, actually.
23:03 <Fn> Fun game and realising that I am actually gaming for science makes me feel fuzzy inside!
23:03 <Cepheid> Games seems like a bad idea for me to specialize in, as they feel more like a hobby to me more than anything else.
23:03 <Schism> They need to put fold.it on Steam. <_<
23:04 <Schism> Free to play, add achievements...
23:04 <Fn> Yess! Totally!
23:04 <Cepheid> Meanwhile, developing tools for games, or tools for various purposes seems more my area.
23:04 <Fn> Actually, I am totally convinced that we need more "gamifying experiences" like that one
23:04 <Schism> Cepheid: That could still very well be a viable speciality.
23:05 * Cepheid is thinking of creating a simulated radar that tracks lua-controlled airplanes. Mostly so he can then create an application that receives data from said simulated radar.
23:07 <Fn> Which type of radar?
23:07 <Fn> Triangulating, SPR, Field Intererence?
23:08 <Fn> (SPR is the one in the moving vehicles - single point radar)
23:08 <Cepheid> Type you find at airports. Not ADS-B or anything like that.
23:08 <Fn> The other two are the stationed radars that take multiple station's inputs to lacate the "blip"
23:08 <Fn> locate+
23:09 <Fn> The triangulating one then.
23:10 <Fn> (the field interference uses two just two points, thus only is used by the army in an active deployment)
23:10 <Cepheid> Mmhmm. I want to implement the ASTERIX data format for transmission.
23:10 <Fn> Have fun using voronoi grids
23:10 <Fn> (that script makes triangulation more precise)
23:13 <Cepheid> Heh.
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23:18 <Cepheid> ...
23:18 <Cepheid> Sweet geezus.
23:18 <Cepheid> A 28-year-old man was killed by police during a SWATting incident.
23:18 <Cepheid> It gets worse, though.
23:20 <Cepheid> The people who did the SWATting were given a random address.
23:20 <Cepheid> The people who did it were fighting over $1.50 gaming bet or whatever, and one of them handed the other an address, which was then used in a SWATting event. Unfortunately, that address was associated with no one in the game they were playing.
23:21 <Cepheid> They just got a random person killed.
23:21 <Schism> Yup.
23:21 <Schism> And that is why SWATting should be treated, in every case, as at least attempted homicide.
23:23 <Cepheid> Would it be considered pre-meditated murder in this case?
23:23 <Schism> Yes.
23:23 <Cepheid> The ultimate goal of SWATting is to get someone to be treated poorly by SWAT and police forces. The most extreme of this treatment is being shot.
23:23 <Cepheid> So arguably, one of the potential goals of SWATting is to murder someone indirectly.
23:24 <Schism> Further, it's been well-documented that many SWAT teams are even more gung-ho than their position would warrant.
23:27 <Cepheid> Right, build from the top down. So, define the core desired features, then flesh those features out into sub-features. And if necessary, sub-sub-features, etc.
23:31 <Cepheid> So, using a signed integer, and accounting for centimeter accuracy..
23:31 <Cepheid> Er, signed 64-bit integer that is.
23:32 <Cepheid> The maximum possible radius I can handle is 616,544 AU.
23:32 <Cepheid> Or roughly 100,000 times the size of our solar system.
23:32 <Cepheid> I think I may cut that down a bit.
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