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00:06 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Pony Crafts and Custom Compilation #13 [ http://tinyurl.com/yb793wkh ]
00:07 * Snapai doth howdy, verily
00:08 <PonyZx> Hi Mniip and Snapai
00:09 <PonyZx> Hi Kook c:
00:10 <KooK> Hey PonyZx!
00:10 <PonyZx> How are you? ouo
00:13 <KooK> Good!
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01:50 <Schism> Dead gods, that damned storm outside...
01:50 <Schism> cepheid: What fever do you have?
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02:05 * Schism suspects it's a fever of 103.
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02:21 <KooK> Rain drops keep falling on my head
02:21 <KooK> But that doesn't mean my eyes will soon be turning red
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02:38 * Schism passes Thelema5 some junk food: hot dogs with cheese inside, wrapped in croissant dough.
02:38 * Ali steals those and noms
02:38 * Schism squeaks at Ali. "A favourite of yours?"
02:39 * Ali shakes head, she's just hungry
02:39 <Thelema5> Thanksie, Schism
02:39 <Schism> Ali: If you've never tried them before, you should.
02:39 <Thelema5> You can nom Ali- I'm trying to reduce my calorie intake
02:39 <Ali> Well US hot dogs are about as good for you as garbage so I think I'll pass
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02:40 <Schism> You can have them with real hot dogs. And real cheese, and real croissant dough, too.
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02:40 <Thelema5> There are some notable exceptions- good hot dogs /do/ exist in the US
02:41 <Saerydoth> Costco hot dogs are pretty damn good
02:41 <Saerydoth> they're huge though
02:42 * Ali isn't a member
02:42 <Schism> I'll admit, the variety I was making... well. Cheap hot dogs, cheap cheese, cheap croissants. XD; Pure junk food.
02:43 <Thelema5> I've not tried them, Saerydoth, but I can vouch for Boars Head Beef Frankfurters and Sabrett Natural Casing
02:44 <Thelema5> Schism, sounds yummy- and something I should avoid
02:45 <Schism> They'd probably be more damaging to your arteries than anything else.
02:45 <Snapai> I think Sams uses Nathan's hotdogs. Whatever they use has casings that dissolve if the hotdog's cooked for too long.
02:45 <Snapai> Like, if you show up during a slow time, it's just....the hotdog has lost all semblance of texture, it's just a bologna core.
02:45 <Schism> Snapai: On the plus side, I suppose that means that the casings are at least biodegradable.
02:46 <Snapai> The hotdogs are delicious regardless, but I prefer them when there's still some bite to it. XD
02:46 <Snapai> hotdog al dente?
02:47 <Schism> Just so long as it's not avec dente.
02:48 <Snapai> Dante's hotdogs
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02:50 <Snapai> I started taking vitamin K2 again yesterday.
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02:50 <Snapai> Noticed improvement in my skin this morning, and I didn't know that was a thing until I looked it up o.o
02:51 <Snapai> Like, afterwards. So definitely a thing- unless it's a time-traveling placebo effect. XD
02:51 <Schism> Interesting. Well, then. More natto for you!
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02:51 <Snapai> I never get around to making natto. x.x
02:51 <Snapai> I bought the supplements because I don't.
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02:53 <Schism> Hum. I like the idea that Big Mac, stuck in a time loop, decides to create a bonsai mountain.
02:53 <RazorSharpFang> Fermented soybeans?
02:54 <Snapai> RazorSharpFang, yes, that is what natto is. One of the best natural sources of PQQ and MK-7 (vitamin K2)
02:54 <Snapai> and nattokinase
02:54 <RazorSharpFang> Make sure you're careful fermenting it. Don't want it fermented by the wrong type of agent.
02:55 <Snapai> It's really not that hard, Razor - since I pressure cook the beans to prepare them for the fermenting. And the bacteria has a very distinctive look and smell
02:55 <Snapai> I bought natto culture, but it's far better to just use a bit of commercial natto as a starter culture.
02:55 <RazorSharpFang> Oh, it's a bacteria that ferments it? I thought it was going to be a variant of yeast.
02:56 <Snapai> Yeah, a bacteria that does gym sock funk smell, and is rod-shaped/string-forming.
02:56 <Snapai> So you get a slime covering the fermented beans with little "veins" in it, that turns into a stringy mess when stirred.
02:58 <Thelema5> I've had natto before, I didn't care for it. I generally enjoy fermented foods, and ferment quite a bit myself... but the aroma was off-putting and the texture... was too
02:58 <Thelema5> I didn't even know it was a source of vitamin k. Cool.
02:59 <RazorSharpFang> I think it's one of those foods that people either love, hate, or don't care for.
02:59 <Snapai> Thelema5, vitamin k2 in particular
03:00 <Snapai> Younger generations in Japan discovered a neat trick - if you mix it with flan or pudding cups, the natto slime combines with the cup to create a smooth soup that largely covers up the flavor/odor/texture
03:00 <Snapai> (rather than the traditional method of mixing in soy and onions and mustard and serving it over rice)
03:01 <RazorSharpFang> So they add fermented soy to non-fermented soy.
03:03 <Thelema5> Chinese fermented black soybeans are pretty yummy, but I don't know if they have any health benefits. Black bean sauce is pretty much essential for many chinese dishes
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03:09 <Thelema5> I love the texture of cooked chinese black beans, they're like tiny little flavor explosions
03:15 <Snapai> Well it's the natto bacteria specifically that produces k2
03:18 <Thelema5> Oh well.
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03:23 <Thelema5> !link https://youtu.be/F4Cm75Qvk4A
03:23 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.
03:23 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Noodles with blackbean sauce (Jjajangmyeon: 짜장면)
03:24 <Thelema5> This woman's knife technique is scary- she doesn't curl her fingertips and guide the blade with her nuckles...
03:24 <Thelema5> She's going to cut herself
03:24 <Thelema5> *knuckles
03:29 <Thelema5> Hmm. My overweight, elderly, diabetic cat is limping.
03:30 <Thelema5> I felt along the bone structure, it's not tender to the touch and nothing seems broken... I think he may have fallen and strained a joint
03:34 <Thelema5> Poor thing
03:35 <Thelema5> Hopefully he'll feel better in the morning- he loathes the vet, and car rides- I always fear that the trip does more harm through stress than it's worth
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03:53 <Thelema5> Hmm. Looks like the youtube shooter was a disgruntled youtuber after all, she felt her content was being suppressed due to her extreme farsi vegan views
03:53 <Thelema5> This is her website http://nasimesabz.com/
03:54 <Thelema5> Yes, it looks like you'd expect a maniac's website to look
03:55 <Thelema5> I'd suggest that maybe videos with titles like "Stolen pet dog cooked alive!
03:55 <Thelema5> Chinese eat dogs & cats too
03:55 <Thelema5> & torture animals to death.
03:55 * Ali boops Thelema5
03:55 <Thelema5> Might just violate youtube's TOS without it being a personal vendetta
03:55 * Thelema5 runs and hides
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03:56 <Thelema5> Sorry! It was a paste malfunction. (. _.)
03:57 * Ali keeps booping Thelema5 for new topic :P
03:57 * Ali has new cats, doesn't need sad cat stories
03:57 <Saerydoth> cats average about 20 years old now if they are well taken care of with vet care for their whole lives
03:57 <Saerydoth> cats living to 25-30 is getting more and more common too
03:59 <Thelema5> Saerydoth, my sick limping cat is 14, but he has diabetes which is only slightly responsive to twice daily insulin injections... so we don't expect that he will make it very much longer
03:59 <Thelema5> His was on the brink of death a year ago, it's a miracle he's enjoyed even this much time
04:00 * Saerydoth nods
04:00 <Saerydoth> yeah illnesses and cancer can cut it short but hopefully he'll pull through
04:00 <Saerydoth> my cats are 11/12 now and they still act like they did when they were 1-2
04:01 * Ali 's cats are still in their months stage
04:02 <Thelema5> Heh, I think my cat acting like a kitten is what resulted in his new limp... probably tried to jump down from too far of a height
04:02 <Thelema5> Ali, how are those cute little furballs doing?
04:02 <Ali> They had a stupid earlier
04:02 <Thelema5> :P
04:03 <Ali> I was eating in my rocking chair, Tia jumped up but got messed up by my keyboard and she fell back to the floor. This caused Luna, who was eating on my desk to fly off and dumped the bowl of cat food into the floor.
04:03 <Saerydoth> my cats get embarassed when they do stuff like that
04:04 <Saerydoth> it's like they know they aren't supposed to be clumsy
04:04 <Thelema5> XD
04:04 <Thelema5> Ali, I'm envious of your rocking chair. I've wanted one for years.
04:04 <Thelema5> They're hard to find- even second hand
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04:05 <Thelema5> ... well, at reasonable prices at least
04:06 <Saerydoth> I haven't seen a rocking chair in like, 30 years rofl
04:06 <Thelema5> Right? Aside from uphostered nursing rockers they have disappeared
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04:10 <Thelema5> Rocking chairs always make me think of Muriel from Courage the Cowardly Dog
04:10 * Ali boops, its not that kind of rocking chair
04:10 <Ali> Also hi Luna. Realy for naptime?
04:11 <Thelema5> Ooh
04:12 <Ali> Uh ok, I know this meow.
04:12 <Ali> That was supposed to be Uh oh
04:12 <DashedRainbows> Good evening horses!
04:13 * Ali squeaks as Luna moons her. "Yes yes, nice kitten rear, please move it."
04:14 <Thelema5> Hiya DashedRainbows
04:15 <DashedRainbows> Hey Thelema5 glow are you?
04:15 <Ali> If he's glowing he might have a problem :P
04:16 <Thelema5> I've been craving a big mac for two weeks now... which is super weird because I've been trying to reduce my calorie intake, don't eat much fast food, and haven't eaten at Macdonalds for a looong time
04:16 <Ali> Its not worth it Thelema5
04:16 <Thelema5> The last time I did (more than a year ago) it was waaaay too salty for me
04:16 * Thelema5 has high blood pressure and is on a reduced sodium diet
04:17 <Thelema5> Ali, cats are proud of their butts, apparently
04:17 <Thelema5> They show them off without shame
04:18 <Ali> Thelema5, getting mooned by a cat is the highest form of them loving you.
04:18 <Thelema5> XD
04:18 <Ali> Luna will do it quite a few times before she'll lay down
04:18 <Ali> But she always gives me this unique meow before a heavy purr
04:19 <Ali> Then BAM rump to face
04:21 <Thelema5> Heh
04:23 <Saerydoth> Mab does that to me all the time
04:23 <Saerydoth> she's 12 this year
04:28 * Thelema5 realizes just how old he must be because he's watching a video about healthy bowel movements. Jeebus. I was a punk-rocker once, I swear!
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04:37 <Thelema5> Continuing my Cheese Shop tour, I've had another sample of
04:37 <Thelema5> Red Leicester
04:38 <Thelema5> This cheese has a tight, waxy texture with a dry cheddary flavor. A nice cheese overall. Very mild, firm cheese.
04:39 <Thelema5> The texture gets me more than anything, it's super waxy like eating a candle. But lovely none-the-less.
04:41 <Thelema5> I could eat this routinely, with wine and crackers.
04:45 * Saerydoth likes really really super extra sharp cheddar with crackers
04:45 * Saerydoth usually gets this
04:45 <Saerydoth> https://www.cabotcheese.coop/seriously-sharp-cheddar-cheese
04:45 <Saerydoth> well I don't order it, they have it at walmart
04:46 <Thelema5> Cabot is a great company, they are producer owned and make really good products
04:48 * Saerydoth goes bed
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04:48 <Thelema5> Bed is probably a good idea
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05:10 <Finwe> o3o
05:10 <Finwe> Good morning, everypony!
05:10 * Finwe hats on Thelema5
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05:45 <Cepheid> My nose woke me up. =.=
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05:48 <Cepheid> Doesn't surprise me. Sounds cute though.
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05:53 <Cepheid> Did the best I can for my nose. Will have to see if it is enough.
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06:02 <Cepheid> So far 80% of my visible chat log is joins and disconnects.
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06:05 <Cepheid> https://mods.factorio.com/mod/NPBees2 this seems like the kind of mod that would interest Schism.
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06:05 * Ali just can't afford any other games right now.
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06:11 <Cepheid> I see it is snowing outside again.
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06:14 <Cepheid> Anyway back to bed for me. Only got up because my sinuses and nose hate my existence.
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06:16 <ConfusionRift> Hello everypony.
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06:18 <ConfusionRift> Ze beeeessss!!!
06:19 <Cepheid> Essentially yeah. Someone brought the bees from the apiary mod of minecraft to factorio.
06:19 <Ali> Ok?
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06:23 <Cepheid> I was commenting on Rifty's bee line. Bees man. Beeeees.
06:23 <ConfusionRift> I shall have my personal bee army!
06:24 <ConfusionRift> No! Sting them, not me! Aaaah!
06:24 * ConfusionRift runs away with a cloud of bees.
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06:27 * Cepheid bursts into flames.
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06:34 * Cepheid just bursts back into flames. This has the benefit of drying his clothes. If there is a way to fight the flames, it involves forcing the massive pressure system out of the area. It is mostly to blame for sinuses, nose and fever.
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06:46 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Doors 3 Now Open for Submissions! [ http://tinyurl.com/yc7ftnpk ]
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07:59 <RazorSharpFang> I still don't know what a logistical network is in factorio.
07:59 <ConfusionRift> You can use that for I/O, boolean, and storage management.
08:00 <RazorSharpFang> I still haven't figured out even rails yet - I think that's a bit far off.
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08:02 <ConfusionRift> The easiest thing to understand is how items affect the network. You can use the red/green wires to read content on conveyers and trigger other machines, or even stop/start machines.
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08:03 <RazorSharpFang> I've finally got a modular armor with an energy shield too.
08:04 <ConfusionRift> Heck, you can use just those wires to set a simple network. Like turning on an inserter if a specific item passes a conveyer point.
08:05 <ConfusionRift> On the more advanced research, you can use logistic bots to move items into and out of chests. And if you have a roboport near areas of interest, you can use set bots to build for you.
08:06 <ConfusionRift> The bots would use items within a storage, buffer, or passive chest, and build what you want using those items and blueprints.
08:07 <ConfusionRift> Actually, I would check blueprints first, since they are super helpful.
08:10 <RazorSharpFang> Is the maximum speed of a rail greater than that of a car?
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08:11 * ConfusionRift slowly nods.
08:11 <ConfusionRift> It can get very fast, even on a full load.
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08:12 <ConfusionRift> The only time when there's that exception is when there are a tad too many carts or carriages full of junk.
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08:15 <RazorSharpFang> My current problem is that the copper mine is actually in the way of where I want to expand my solar/accumulator farms.
08:16 <RazorSharpFang> I seem to go through way more iron than copper for whatever reason.
08:17 <ConfusionRift> Item is required for the most part for a lot of equipment.
08:18 <ConfusionRift> Copper is for the more advanced stuff, networking, and electricals.
08:24 * ConfusionRift decides to play as well.
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08:25 <RazorSharpFang> Also the night-vision goggles are amazing. They work so well.
08:27 * ConfusionRift nods.
08:27 <ConfusionRift> A must have.
08:33 <RazorSharpFang> Will the spitters ever out-range the laser turrets?
08:34 <ConfusionRift> As far as I know, not really.
08:34 <ConfusionRift> They still have to be rather close to spit.
08:35 <RazorSharpFang> Mmm, getting rid of my steam engine really cut my pollution down by a tonne.
08:38 <RazorSharpFang> But now I have very little use for solid fuel...
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08:40 <ConfusionRift> I would still keep it to fuel vehicles.
08:41 <RazorSharpFang> I don't use the vehicles enough to keep up with the production - and if I don't produce it, the oil system backs up.
08:42 <ConfusionRift> Use liquid containers as buffer for the extra oil.
08:42 <RazorSharpFang> A buffer isn't a long-term solution - it'll just fill over half an hour, and then it's backed up too.
08:47 <RazorSharpFang> Since my evolution factor's 52%, soon there'll be only medium biters, and some large - no small.
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08:57 <RazorSharpFang> I now need to figure out how to produce the other science packs - yellow and purple.
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09:15 <RazorSharpFang> Wait, does the car pollute?
09:15 <ConfusionRift> It probably does, but very little. I mean, it's uses a combustion engine.
09:16 <RazorSharpFang> I'm finally mining uranium - not that I have any real use for it yet though.
09:17 <ConfusionRift> Uranium ammo, and later on with the nuclear reactor, if anything. You can make nuclear fuel as well.
09:19 <Finwe> Lt Cdr ConfusionRift, Mr RazorSharpFang.
09:19 <Finwe> o7
09:20 <RazorSharpFang> And... my oil is backed up again, too much solid fuel.
09:21 <ConfusionRift> RAdm. Finwe. (salutes)
09:29 <RazorSharpFang> Huh - I got an achievement for producing solar power.
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09:31 <RazorSharpFang> Can enemy attacks be triggered from radar scanning like it can through pollution?
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09:35 <ConfusionRift> A radar scanned area doesn't trigger them. But if an enemy notice radar nearby, they will attack it.
09:36 <RazorSharpFang> My radars are almost half of my energy demand.
09:36 <ConfusionRift> Their priorities are heavy pollution machinery, radars, and the player.
10:08 <ConfusionRift> They can collectively consume ppenty of energy.
10:08 <ConfusionRift> *plenty
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15:21 <Pi> pone!
15:28 <RazorSharpFang> I'm actually surprised how well Factorio runs on my machine, given how many entities I have in it.
15:28 <RazorSharpFang> It's using 1.5GB of ram, but its CPU usage is around 10%.
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16:55 <Filly_Nightmares> Eer
16:55 <Filly_Nightmares> Eee
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19:01 <Cepheid> Yeah, it is a well-known mixed game Razor. That said it's vram usage is off the charts.
19:05 <Cepheid> .... Autocomplete. Eff off.
19:05 <Cepheid> Well-optimized game.
19:05 <Cepheid> I am sick of autocorrect.
19:06 <Cepheid> I don't know what kind of useless dictionary it has, but a majority of the words I use don't exist in it. I've even seen autocorrects of the word 'the' on several occasions.
19:06 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Silver Quill: Let's Review: Friends Forever #21 [ http://tinyurl.com/yb3uws4n ]
19:24 <RyuImperator> hello Cepheid
19:25 <RyuImperator> tablet/smarthphone autocorrect?
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19:26 <Jahnesta> Hiii :D
19:26 <RyuImperator> hello Jahnesta
19:27 <Jahnesta> Hey, tis you again! :D
19:28 <RyuImperator> :D
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19:31 <Jahnesta> How is RyuImperator?
19:31 <RyuImperator> I think good, and you?
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19:31 <Cepheid> Hoi. And yes. Smartphone autocorrect.
19:31 <Jahnesta> Btw, autocorrect remembers your name after the first time I typed it :,P
19:32 <Jahnesta> :P
19:32 <Jahnesta> He sees it after "RyuI" already!
19:33 <RyuImperator> I like this autocorrect :D
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19:35 <Jahnesta> Yeah, me too! It's actually useful!
19:37 <Cepheid> So what is everyone up to?
19:38 <Jahnesta> I'm watching Doctor Who, and there is like a ticking monster under someone's bed, and it jumpscared me pretty bad! :0
19:38 <RyuImperator> and I am search on amazon for a clock :D
19:39 <Jahnesta> xD
19:39 <RyuImperator> which don't make tick tock :D
19:41 <Jahnesta> That's probably a save choice!
19:42 <Jahnesta> Lol, the Doctor said "Don't worry it's just a nightmare, everyone has nightmares about monsters hiding under the bed!"
19:43 <Jahnesta> And that girl asked "But what do monsters have nightmares about?" Doctor: Me!
19:43 <RyuImperator> xD
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19:43 <RyuImperator> hello Lumindia_
19:44 * Filly_Nightmares skree
19:44 <Jahnesta> Hey Lumindia_!
19:45 <RyuImperator> Filly_Nightmares: why are you scream?
19:45 <Lumindia_> Because they skree
19:45 * Lumindia_ skrees
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19:47 <RyuImperator> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5Dh37TZlCU like this?
19:48 <Jahnesta> RyuImperator I'm in bed, in the dark...! :/
19:48 <RyuImperator> what? normal german advertising :D
19:49 <Jahnesta> So not funny! *Baps your snout with a rolled up magazine*
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19:51 <Jahnesta> I bet it's about not using your phone while driving! Or zombies will eat you!
19:51 <RyuImperator> :D
19:51 <RyuImperator> I think thos ad was too much for Filly_Nightmares
19:51 <Jahnesta> Now it would be Advanced_Nightmares!
20:04 <Jahnesta> Since I watched all the Dr Who there is on Netflix, I started with the older ones how
20:04 <Jahnesta> Now!
20:04 <Jahnesta> Now I'm in the David Tennant area!
20:07 <RyuImperator> The Ducktor?
20:08 <RyuImperator> I think i found a cup, which is 20% cooler as all the others :D https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B071WMPMPR/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A3JWKAKR8XB7XF&psc=1
20:09 <Jahnesta> That tail handle is a nice touch!
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20:12 <RyuImperator> good night everypony ^^
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20:16 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: My Little Pony Speedpaint Compilation #10 [ http://tinyurl.com/y7zoms7p ]
20:18 <Cepheid> "Being a computer scientist isn't just sitting at the keyboard to writing code. Get up and socialize a bit. Get to communicating with people, to know them." ... You know, it's annoying when people preach something like this when they don't know the people they themselves don't want to spend any time socializing with.
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20:19 <Cepheid> Oh dear gods, someone around me smells of onions.
20:23 <Cepheid> ... This lecture is just a quick rundown of technical writing.
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20:30 <Pony|82082> uh
20:30 <Pony|82082> Is this dead?
20:30 <Cepheid> Nah.
20:30 <Pony|82082> But why tho
20:30 <Cepheid> It's alive, barely. It's active at times, quiet at others.
20:31 <Cepheid> It's normal for IRC, for as long as I can recall.
20:31 <Pony|82082> Up until about two minutes ago i've never hear of IRC
20:31 <Pony|82082> Or this chatroom
20:31 <Pony|82082> Why not just go to the NDs and MDs
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20:36 <PinkieShy> IRC is like one of the first social networks lol
20:36 <I_like_NDs> It shows
20:36 <PinkieShy> wasn't it created in like 1990s or something.
20:36 <I_like_NDs> I'm the same guy
20:36 <I_like_NDs> by the way
20:37 <I_like_NDs> It certainly looks like it was created in the 90s
20:40 <Cepheid> It was designed in the 1990s or so around there, yeah. I think it was actually the late 1980s.
20:40 <Cepheid> But unlike all the other various social media systems out there, it's the only one that's stood the test of time.
20:41 <I_like_NDs> It's kinda meh
20:41 <I_like_NDs> At least compared to anything else i've used
20:41 <I_like_NDs> Interesting that's it's lasted so long though
20:43 <Starlight_Glimmer> IRC is not a social network in any way shape or form, but nvm :P
20:43 <I_like_NDs> Alright
20:43 <I_like_NDs> Well this is cool in an outdated sort of way
20:43 <I_like_NDs> Bye forever now
20:43 <Cepheid> Arguable. If twitter is social media, then so is IRC, as the two are somewhat similar in a sense. Only twitter is limited to 140 characters instead of ~512, and there's no concept of "channels"
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20:44 <Cepheid> Or moderating.
20:44 <Cepheid> ...
20:44 <Cepheid> "This is old, so I'm leaving. Bye."
20:44 <Starlight_Glimmer> 280 now
20:44 <Cepheid> Ah, right.
20:44 <Cepheid> I...
20:44 <Cepheid> I hate this classroom.
20:44 <Starlight_Glimmer> But it lacks all the features of a social network
20:44 <Starlight_Glimmer> Like ... friendlists
20:45 <Starlight_Glimmer> You don't even have accounts or profiles by default
20:45 <Cepheid> The professor keeps reiterating "no copy and pasting" "no plagiarism" and so on.
20:45 <Cepheid> But the students keep asking questions like "What if I copied code from a public repsitory?" "No, I mean, what if I copied it from a public repository?" "I'm still confused, it's a public repository, so isn't it allowed?"
20:45 <Cepheid> And the answer to each question is a straight up "No."
20:46 <Cepheid> No copy and pasting. No using code from outside sources. It has to be your own code. The report has to be written in your own words. No figures copied from elsewhere, no chunks of text from wikipedia. How stupid do you have to be to not grasp this!?
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20:48 <PinkieShy> Google reveals IRC was invented in.. 1988
20:48 <Cepheid> Yep. By a Finnish person, if I recall. Not Finwe.
20:49 <GalaxyNights> Youtube HQ got raided by gunwoman
20:49 <GalaxyNights> over removed video content
20:49 <Cepheid> Heard about that yesterday, yeah.
20:49 <Cepheid> And if it's about removed video content, it doesn't surprise me.
20:49 <PinkieShy> Jarkko Oikarinen is the creator :P
20:50 <GalaxyNights> she was using her channel's videos as embed ads on her personal site
20:50 <Cepheid> People are touchy about anything being removed from websites these days, citing freedom of speech allows for it to be up there in the first place, ignoring that rules and regulations take priority over freedom of speech, etc.
20:51 <GalaxyNights> dynamic Ip can be useful
20:54 <GalaxyNights> I didn't do much over spring break except to read up on episode summaries on DBS
20:54 <GalaxyNights> didn't get to watch missed pokemon movies
20:55 <GalaxyNights> a long way to the other half of semester
20:56 <GalaxyNights> there was pony plushes at seaworld
20:56 <GalaxyNights> it was tokidoki ones
20:56 <GalaxyNights> from the unicorno line
20:57 <GalaxyNights> I refused the offer to buy me one though
20:57 <GalaxyNights> if only hasbro could make quality ones like that
21:02 * Starlight_Glimmer throws cheap plastic toys at GalaxyNights
21:03 <GalaxyNights> haha I accept only good quality cheap plastic toys
21:03 <GalaxyNights> such a compromise is rare
21:03 <Starlight_Glimmer> I have 2 Funko vinyl figures
21:04 <Cepheid> Cheap and Quality are mutually exclusive concepts.
21:04 <Starlight_Glimmer> This is about as low quality as I'm willing to go
21:04 <GalaxyNights> If I ever am going after an effigy of pony
21:04 <GalaxyNights> I'll built it with a metal skeleton with articulation
21:05 <Cepheid> If you get something for cheap, it's going to be of roughly equivalent quality, because the employees have no interest in making it quality. They only seek to meet quantity.
21:05 <GalaxyNights> life-sized and then attached with parts resembling texture of skin and muscles
21:05 <Cepheid> Production has quotas to meet, usually.
21:06 <GalaxyNights> Then once I perfected it I can market it at above a thousand dollars
21:06 <Cepheid> On the flip side, if you pay a lot of money, you will get good quality, as often the items are of a limited quantity run, and the people are early a considerable amount of money to make them.
21:06 <Starlight_Glimmer> I want a lifesize Luna and Glim Glam plush :(
21:06 <Starlight_Glimmer> But they're $$$
21:06 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Comic: Shadow Shard 36 / Technicality / Cherry Epi:4 / Tomorrow 8 / Pone Wars 5:7 / April Fantasy [ http://tinyurl.com/ya8v28go ]
21:06 <GalaxyNights> agreed I want Luna
21:07 <Starlight_Glimmer> I haven't given up on robbing wobniaR's place yet
21:07 <Starlight_Glimmer> :3
21:07 <GalaxyNights> though money doesn't exactly equal directly to quality, there is a variance between profit and quality
21:08 * PinkieShy hands Cepheid a slice of pepperoni pizza brick oven crust
21:08 * Cepheid refuses. Not in the mood for pizza.
21:08 <Cepheid> I crave pasta, to be honest.
21:09 <GalaxyNights> for most of my like I had tomato cream, lemon cream, pesto, mariana tomato sauce pasta
21:09 <GalaxyNights> you have to go to cultural food districts to get better variety
21:09 <Cepheid> Yep.
21:10 <Cepheid> And then you're accused of cultural appropriation by idiots.
21:10 * Cepheid drinks British Tea as a Canadian in front of Tempest-Shadow.
21:20 <Starlight_Glimmer> You're kinda in the same boat there
21:20 <Starlight_Glimmer> Commonwealth yada yada :3
21:22 <Starlight_Glimmer> I mean unless you'd rather consider yourself part of France. Quebec always welcomes you ... if you speak their horrible language
21:25 <Cepheid> Quebec hates me. Even with my legitimate reason for not knowing French.
21:25 * Tempest-Shadow coffees loudly at Cepheid
21:25 <GalaxyNights> coffees
21:25 * Cepheid throas a box of British Coffee into a river.
21:25 <Cepheid> Throws*
21:26 <Starlight_Glimmer> Wait you're British and you prefer coffe over tea? Get out of here! :D
21:26 <GalaxyNights> tea party dump
21:26 <Fn> Pourquoi-tu ne parlais pas francais, Cepheid?
21:27 <Fn> Speaking of coffee
21:27 <Fn> If boiled/steamed fruits make a kompot, then coffee is also a kompot, since it's a fruit
21:27 <Fn> :P
21:27 <Starlight_Glimmer> Also I'm pretty sure it's that committee that standardizes the French language(not kidding, actually a thing) who's hating everyone else
21:28 <Fn> Standardisation is not a bad thing actually
21:28 <Starlight_Glimmer> I had years of French classes and I can happily report I've looked all these memories inside the deepest corners of my head never to be seen again
21:28 <Cepheid> Born with 70% hearing loss. I have no excuse now but for the first 16 years of my life i was advised against learning more than one language at a time. Or pulled out of the classes.
21:29 <Fn> Ever learned a sign language
21:29 <Cepheid> Starlight, there is a literal language police in Quebec. You can be fined for using non-French words on business documents. Or menus for international foods.
21:29 <Fn> ?
21:29 <Cepheid> No. I considered it though.
21:30 <Fn> I am considering it too
21:30 <Fn> It's just there are too many
21:30 <Starlight_Glimmer> I was able to read Braille a long time ago
21:30 <Fn> Ooh I can do that
21:30 <Starlight_Glimmer> But if you never use it
21:30 <Fn> But veeery slowly
21:30 <Fn> Numbers I do know though
21:31 <Cepheid> I'm not 100% certain that my ears will remain functioning for the rest of my life. Especiakky since i have trouble now with my right ear.
21:31 <Fn> I just keep forgetting all the braille shorthands
21:31 <Starlight_Glimmer> There is a short style which is different for most languages and it's even more annoying
21:31 <Fn> They are tricky
21:31 <Starlight_Glimmer> Heh
21:31 <Starlight_Glimmer> :D
21:31 <Starlight_Glimmer> Did you read it visually or by touch?
21:31 <Fn> Both
21:31 <Cepheid> My right ear likes to stop working under certain situations. Sound is replaced by white noise.
21:31 <Starlight_Glimmer> I only /learned/ touch
21:32 <Fn> I learned visually, but then read by touch
21:32 <Starlight_Glimmer> Yeah they'd not let me cheat that way
21:32 <Starlight_Glimmer> Probably why I never cared to hold on to the skill
21:33 <Starlight_Glimmer> I have that like once or twice a year Cepheid
21:33 <Starlight_Glimmer> Not painful just uncomfortable
21:33 <Cepheid> All the time for me. Particularly when i am tired.
21:34 <Starlight_Glimmer> The tinnitus is worse for me, but it's only noticeable when it's rather quiet
21:34 <Fn> I would love to become fluent touch-reader and then read IRC chat feed on-the-go with a portable braille device
21:34 <Fn> :P
21:35 <Starlight_Glimmer> They're not exactly practical
21:35 <Fn> Maybe even reply on a super-compact one-handed keyboard in another pocket
21:35 <Starlight_Glimmer> Either they're big bulky and super expensive or only have very few characters
21:36 <Fn> The one I saw in the shop for disabled was rather compact
21:36 <Starlight_Glimmer> Probably only a notebook though
21:36 <Starlight_Glimmer> As in an actual notebook
21:36 <Fn> I mean compact enough to carry in a baggy pocket of a jacket
21:36 <Starlight_Glimmer> not a computer
21:37 <Starlight_Glimmer> Also yay 8 dots for electronic displays!
21:37 <Starlight_Glimmer> I had a look over examination questions
21:37 <Cepheid> You know in 20 years i am certain there will be a surge in people needing hearing aides or going deaf.
21:37 <Starlight_Glimmer> One was for some odd reason naming input and output devices suitable for blind people
21:38 <Starlight_Glimmer> Touchscreen was not an allowed answer
21:38 <Starlight_Glimmer> I hope these people realize how many blind people use touchscreens daily
21:38 <Starlight_Glimmer> The iPhone is arguably the best phone for blind people at the moment.
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21:38 <Cepheid> A common thing i notice around me is that people are unaware of how loud they are, noise-wise or talking.
21:39 <Fn> Ideally I'd want to infect some nerves with a virus that makes a cellular eye grow inside a nerve cell, and thus make it sensitive to light
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21:39 <Fn> That way I could receive information straight to these nerve endings
21:39 <Starlight_Glimmer> That sounds ... painful
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21:40 <Fn> Not at all
21:42 <Cepheid> I want a bionic eye or a hearing aide that can process frequencies outside of human hearing.
21:42 <Cepheid> Processing them by adjusting them to a range i can hear..
21:43 <GalaxyNights> seeing UV would be nice
21:43 <Cepheid> Which is pretty variable last i checked. There are some dead areas between the lower and upper ranges of human hearing whete i cant hear anything.
21:44 <GalaxyNights> its only a matter of legislation before america starts crispring people like china
21:44 <GalaxyNights> aka editing genes
21:45 <Cepheid> But more i want the eye. Programmable at that. Pop it out, plug into usb. Reprogram. If it fails fall back to a burned-in ROM that contains a basic visual program for use.
21:45 <GalaxyNights> so insert new genes into body and heal the defect
21:47 <GalaxyNights> I want people to research lengthening telomeres or complete stem cell surgery/implant for biological immortality
21:48 <Starlight_Glimmer> I'd rather have them turn humans onto cute tiny horses
21:48 <Cepheid> It will probably never catch on. People are paranoid about vaccines now as is. People are going to accuse gene editors of poisoning them or using it to track them or obtain a copy of their DNA.
21:49 <Starlight_Glimmer> Also religious reasons
21:49 <GalaxyNights> technically some people voluntarily give copies of dna already
21:49 <Starlight_Glimmer> Obvious fear of abuse
21:49 <GalaxyNights> and blood samples count too
21:49 <Cepheid> Humans have become extremely paranoid of the wrong things these days. And it is only getting worse.
21:49 <GalaxyNights> let them be paranoid
21:50 <Starlight_Glimmer> They're just incapable of critical thinking
21:50 <GalaxyNights> and send them to the counselers
21:50 <Starlight_Glimmer> That's our greatest issue
21:50 <Cepheid> By doing that, various diseases have made a resurgence. We cant afford that kind of behaviour.
21:50 <Starlight_Glimmer> You wouldn't have to discuss chemtrails if people we able to argue reasonably with each other
21:51 <GalaxyNights> http://www.businessinsider.com/atacama-skeleton-isnt-an-alien-2018-3
21:51 <Starlight_Glimmer> But it doesn't matter atm who's right: What counts is who's screaming the loudest
21:51 <Cepheid> Because it works.
21:51 <Starlight_Glimmer> Which your neighbors can tell you some story about :P
21:51 <GalaxyNights> dwarfism genes in weird remains of skeleton could be revived for human miniturization
21:52 <Cepheid> In which case maybe scientists should start screaming louder instead of sounding reasonable and sane.
21:52 <GalaxyNights> we can even have atacama's skeleton cephalopod heads
21:52 <Starlight_Glimmer> The issue is: Being sane comes (to a certain degree) with the profession
21:52 <Cepheid> I'd rather not . I'd prefer a gene treatment to cure my allergic rhinitus.
21:52 <GalaxyNights> I'm allergic to the sun
21:52 <GalaxyNights> cues vampire themes
21:53 <Cepheid> And diabetes.
21:53 <Starlight_Glimmer> And being afraid of new things - considering our heritage - isn't all that unreasonable of a strategy
21:53 <ADragonDreaming> Ahem
21:53 <ADragonDreaming> "Remember, genes are NOT blueprints. This means you can't, for example, insert "the genes for an elephant's trunk" into a giraffe and get a giraffe with a trunk. There are no genes for trunks. What you CAN do with genes is chemistry, since DNA codes for chemicals. For instance, we can in theory splice the native plants' talent for nitrogen fixation
21:53 <ADragonDreaming> into a terran plant."
21:53 <Cepheid> I am not allergic to the sun. Dust mites. That said i hate the sun and wish people would stop telling me that it isnt healthy. The sun makes me tired, sore and painful.
21:53 <Starlight_Glimmer> Things progressed rather slowly for the overwhelming majority of our existence
21:53 <ADragonDreaming> Yes. It's a quote from a fictional scientist in a game.
21:53 <ADragonDreaming> But it makes an important point.
21:54 <Cepheid> Yeah. Genes are not blueprints. Closer to code but even that isnt right.
21:54 <ADragonDreaming> "The genetic code does not, and cannot, specify the nature and position of every capillary in the body or every neuron in the brain. What it can do is describe the underlying fractal pattern which creates them."
21:55 <ADragonDreaming> (SMAC is a good game with lots of hard science, do recommend)
21:55 <Cepheid> The code tells the biological machines where to go, what to deposit and the like. But without understanding the hardware, there is no way to tell machines whst to do with pre-existing code.
21:55 <GalaxyNights> we need game designers that basically let you create tests with genes
21:55 <Cepheid> No. That would be a bad idea.
21:56 <ADragonDreaming> mostly my point is, let's not talk about turning people into ponies with genetics.
21:56 <Cepheid> Because the next thing you know we will have people phasing through walls or finding themselves embedded in the ground.
21:56 <ADragonDreaming> Let's do talk about eliminating Parkinson's.
21:56 <Cepheid> The bethesda genes.
21:56 <GalaxyNights> its like nasa putting photos of space and letting people discover super earths and other stuffs because they don't want to spend life hours doing it themselves
21:57 <Starlight_Glimmer> ADragonDreaming: But but but ponies!
21:57 <Cepheid> But yes. Curing illnesses is the primary goal of gene editing. That and vaccines of a different type.
21:57 <GalaxyNights> people should use gene testing as games
21:57 <ADragonDreaming> I think it's less a matter of NASA not wanting to put in the time as there being no good reason not to let others look too.
21:57 <Cepheid> I am hoping they find a cure for alzheimers in the next few decades. It exists in my family tree on both sides.
21:58 <GalaxyNights> not everything has a substance cure
21:58 <GalaxyNights> but gene editing can work
21:59 <Cepheid> And i would rather be dead than slowly degenerate and require special care. But at the same time i would also like to live. Recent hospital visit indicating otherwise notwithstanding.
21:59 <Starlight_Glimmer> The issue is: People think if we beat e.g. cancer (and ... and ... and ... )that'll more or less mean immortality
21:59 <Starlight_Glimmer> Which is not the case
21:59 <ADragonDreaming> ...They do?
21:59 <ADragonDreaming> what?
21:59 <GalaxyNights> actually cancer is just malicious immortality
22:00 <Starlight_Glimmer> As soon as we start beating one thing another will a couple of years down the road take its place
22:00 <Cepheid> It just means longer life span. You would have to figure out what causes aging in the first ppace. Some reports blame mitochondria.
22:00 <GalaxyNights> so its like them viewing themselves as superior cells
22:00 <ADragonDreaming> I can honestly say this is the first time I've seen anyone reference beating cancer as meaning immortality.
22:01 <GalaxyNights> they think cancer is supervillian
22:01 <Cepheid> I'll be back soon. Gotta change travel.
22:01 <GalaxyNights> and beating it means your superperson
22:01 <ADragonDreaming> Still the first I've heard of that particular attitude.
22:01 <GalaxyNights> next is beating alzheimers and thinking you are god
22:02 <Starlight_Glimmer> Not cancer in particular
22:02 <Starlight_Glimmer> But all these diseases which currently appear to take most people's life
22:02 <Starlight_Glimmer> (which is why I included the ands)
22:03 <GalaxyNights> hawking beat his disease for along time
22:03 <GalaxyNights> he was supposed to live for 2 years after the diagnosis
22:03 <Starlight_Glimmer> That was rather surprising, yes
22:03 <Starlight_Glimmer> TotalBiscuit also still alive and pronounced dead years ago
22:05 <Starlight_Glimmer> But that's kinda how statistics work. Outliers are to be expected
22:05 <GalaxyNights> I think they should research outliers
22:05 <GalaxyNights> they may have something that makes them outliers
22:05 <GalaxyNights> and its a good thing
22:06 <Starlight_Glimmer> Could be, but more likely again is that the odds just were in their favor
22:06 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Drawfriend Stuff (Pony Art Gallery) #2581 [ http://tinyurl.com/y7mv92j9 ]
22:06 <Starlight_Glimmer> You can sit in a room with a nuclear bomb that has a chance of exploding of 50% for a 100 years. Doesn't mean it's a dummy if you pass 100.
22:07 <Starlight_Glimmer> (50% each second or something)
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22:25 <Cepheid> https://i.imgur.com/7lpWHzx.gifv
22:25 <Cepheid> https://gfycat.com/EmbellishedEasygoingAquaticleech
22:28 <Cepheid> Finally clean air.
22:29 <Cepheid> I don't know what was in that lecture hall, but it smelled badly of green onions and garlic
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23:21 * ThatAnonPony waves up at Cepheid.
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23:22 <Cepheid> So who all here has Vermintide: End Times or Vermintide 2? Mostly just looking for folks to play with from time to time.
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23:37 <Cepheid> Hey ADragonDreaming, for Factorio, are there any kinds of mod ideas you'd like to see, possibly concepts ported from Minecraft mods?
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