Log archive of EquestriaDaily for Sunday, 2018-04-15

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00:20 <PinkieShy> I just made a cat sound on vrchat and apparently everybody now thinks i have a cat even tho i told them i don't lol

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01:07 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Story: As Winter Dies, So Spring Is Born [ http://tinyurl.com/ya35ddj4 ]

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02:07 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Nightly Discussion #1410 - That Stallion Alicorn Edition  [ http://tinyurl.com/ybm4wo24 ]

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02:22 <Schism> "What, you don't know what 'grok' means?  The word's been in common use for sixty years, my friend.  Look it up."

02:22 <Schism> "If I tell you, you won't remember what it means."

02:32 <Nuclear> Health insurance is absurdly expensive.

02:32 <Nuclear> It's over $500 a month "minimum" for a platinum-level PPO plan, with another $100 a month "minimum" if you want an indemnity health insurance policy that covers whatever the first one doesn't.

02:41 <Schism> This is to say nothing of premiums.

02:41 <Schism> Oh, sorry, you diabetic?  That's gonna be another $600 a month.

02:43 <Nuclear> But those are the premiums?

02:43 <Schism> YUP so you're gonna be payin' 1100 a month -- but don't worry!  After that, you're free!  Until you hit the cap.

02:45 <Nuclear> If you get platinum-level (the top ACA tier) insurance of any kind, you won't have to pay more and you cannot be turned down for having a preexisting condition.

02:45 <Nuclear> That is what ACA mandates.

02:45 <Nuclear> Indemnity insurance isn't ACA compliant but is still offered.

02:47 <Schism> Ahh, right.

02:47 <Schism> But the ACA's gonna be repealed.  Remember!  Big platform.

02:49 <Nuclear> Yeah, that's what I'm expecting.

02:49 <Nuclear> Hopefully the plans are grandfathered.

02:54 <Schism> That would imply that the current political party in power cares about those who spent the time and energy to better their lives.

03:02 <Saerydoth> if I ever find out I'm dying, I want to run up HUGE medical bills so I can not pay them and make them eat it

03:07 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by ExplodingPonyToast: Music: Vylet Pony - Twinkle (feat. Namii) [Indie Pop] [ http://tinyurl.com/y8snodnc ]

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04:07 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: BronyCon 2018 Adds Tony Fleecs to Ever-Growing Show Staff List  [ http://tinyurl.com/yblbrudz ]

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05:09 <Thelema5> Hello everypony

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07:28 <RazorSharpFang> Good morning

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08:52 <ConfusionRift> Hello everypony.

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09:04 <RazorSharpFang> Heyas

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09:15 <ConfusionRift> Trying to recover an SD card.

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10:05 <RazorSharpFang> Holy moly, personal laser defenses are amazing, esp when you have MK2 batteries and MK2 shielding.

10:05 <RazorSharpFang> I can just tank everything while everything dies.

10:06 <RazorSharpFang> You know, so long as I don't run out of power.

10:06 <ConfusionRift> Yep, can work on vehicles. :P

10:08 <RazorSharpFang> Getting the MK2 power armor was totally worth it.

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10:13 <RazorSharpFang> And now I'm finally researching rocket silos.

10:13 <ConfusionRift> This SD card is dead...

10:14 <RazorSharpFang> But maybe, through the power of friendship...

10:14 <ConfusionRift> The PC can't even see it.

10:22 <RazorSharpFang> You could always break it open, and try to read it bit-by-bit. (Get it? Bit?)

10:24 <ConfusionRift> Garharhaaaar! :P

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10:25 <RazorSharpFang> But maybe it's just one component of the SD card that's fried, and hopefully not the component that's got the data in it. Could always break it apart if it's the data's valuable enough

10:26 <ConfusionRift> A micro SD card?

10:26 <RazorSharpFang> A dexterity check of 20.

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10:28 * ConfusionRift checks. His DEX is on 3. Not good.

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10:31 <RazorSharpFang> Coal veins seem to be very few and far between.

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10:34 <ConfusionRift> Be back.

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10:46 <ConfusionRift> And baaack.

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11:07 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Morning Discussion #1183 [ http://tinyurl.com/y7k2xkku ]

11:07 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Rarity, Scootaloo, and Princess Twilight Join New School of Friendship Brushable Lineup  [ http://tinyurl.com/y76bad7d ]

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11:16 <RazorSharpFang> How on earth are you supposed to fit Beacons into your assembling systems?

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11:19 <ConfusionRift> They work by area of effect.

11:20 <RazorSharpFang> Okay, but I meant in terms of space. They're not small, and their AoE is pretty small too.

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11:53 <RazorSharpFang> Like, they're so big, I don't think I could use them effectively in mining.

11:54 <ConfusionRift> It's more for production really. Using them for mining, since drills take plenty of space, is tricky.

12:01 <RazorSharpFang> I'll probably just have to mass produce production modules 3 and stick them on the drills. Make the most of the ore veins.

12:04 <RazorSharpFang> There's only a few coal mines, not that many of them.

12:18 <Finwe> o3o

12:18 <Finwe> Good afternoon, my tiny perissodactyls.

12:21 <ConfusionRift> RAdm. Finwe. (salutes)

12:21 <Finwe> Lt Cdr ConfusionRift.

12:21 <Finwe> o7

12:21 <ConfusionRift> Too tired, gonna crash. Laters.

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12:25 <Finwe> Hmm, someone has managed to film a coconut crab catching and eating a seabird: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8gJ4RTBxcg

12:26 <Finwe> It was previously thought that coconut crabs were scavengers.

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12:31 <Cyan_Desktop> Eeewwwww

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14:32 <ADragonDreaming> okay. 21 hopperhocks.

14:32 <ADragonDreaming> now to make them floating.

14:38 <ADragonDreaming> There, 21 floating hopperhocks.

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15:07 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by ExplodingPonyToast: Music: Elias Frost - FlutterGoth - Scream In A Void [Metal] [ http://tinyurl.com/y9pch8cg ]

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17:07 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Watchmojo Added Pony to Another Top List... of Toxic Communities [ http://tinyurl.com/ydaz76a3 ]

17:07 * Schism provides Surry with some coffees. Is cold chitterling.

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17:25 <Schism> Strong coffee is a thing of beauty and wonder on a cold day like today.

17:25 * Schism sip.

17:26 * SunsetShimmer sips columbian coffee and agrees

17:30 <Schism> This isn't anything fancy, just an ultra-fine medium-roast Arabica blend.

17:30 <SunsetShimmer> Some people would argue thats fancy. :P

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17:59 *** Ali changes topic to 'Welcome to #EquestriaDaily! This channel is rated All Ages | Guide and rules: http://derpy.me/EqDRules | S8 episode 5 is open for Discussion| Do not discuss season 8 spoilers until airdates!'

18:07 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Totally Legit Recap "The Maud Couple" [ http://tinyurl.com/yb2568hz ]

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18:31 <RazorSharpFang> If it's factorio related, I'm here Ali, if you have a question or two.

18:31 <Ali> It is but that's why I said if he wasn't busy

18:31 <Ali> I put some steam in a storage tank.  Is it possible to fuel a steam engine with that?

18:32 <RazorSharpFang> Totally. For some reason, it doesn't lose any temperature in a storage tank.

18:32 <Ali> I'm sure not long but it would be more like a temp boost to the grid when needed

18:32 <Ali> I'm trying to not use too many boilers so I don't have to deal with ze bugs

18:33 <Ali> I really need to use radar but I don't want it connected to my main power grid

18:35 <RazorSharpFang> Well, if you have accumulators you can limit them using that, but that's kinda tricky to set up. You should just get solar panels ASAP, which hugely reduces your demand on coal/boilers.

18:36 <Ali> I'm not quite yet to that, just started scanning but found oil

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18:36 <Ali> If I didn't find oil that would've been bad

18:36 <RazorSharpFang> Oh yeah, oil's a requirement.

18:37 * PinkieShy hands Ali a bee named barry that will ask her "You like Jazz?"

18:37 <PinkieShy> XD

18:37 <Ali> I was gonna do solar panels and radar so they'd only work during the day

18:38 <Ali> Cause Radar puts a 1/3 power strain on one engine

18:38 <RazorSharpFang> They're really big on power usage for a single device.

18:38 <RazorSharpFang> I have 17 radars active right now, total of 5.1 MW

18:38 <Ali> Yikes

18:40 <Ali> Solar output is so weak and with no storage till much later, you just have to suffer nighttime blackouts or limit what's only on during the day.

18:40 <RazorSharpFang> Well, I can afford that, with ease. I actually need more radars to fill in the holes between them. I've been playing on this single save for days now.

18:41 <RazorSharpFang> When you have 3400 solar panels and 7500 accumulators you're pretty good for 17 radars.

18:41 <Ali> I get to a point where I feel like I'm behind X.x

18:41 <Ali> And my layout will look like utter crap or is so slow

18:42 <RazorSharpFang> Once you get your laser turrets running, you'll be A-okay

18:42 <Ali> Pft those are a power drain too dear

18:42 <RazorSharpFang> Right, but once you get a proper defense set up, you can pollute as much as you desire.

18:43 <Ali> I just throw effienct cards on everything

18:44 <RazorSharpFang> That'll reduce the attacks, yeah.

18:44 <Ali> It really tones down a ton of power drain and pollution

18:44 <Ali> Like the assembler 2's drop from 150 to 53 with 2 level 1 cards

18:44 <Ali> I had it where my mining drills were the most power drawing object

18:45 <RazorSharpFang> My current problem is that I chucked several hundred laser turrets in a chest somewhere and I can't find where I put it.

18:46 <Ali> Using the Alt command to show what everything is?

18:47 <RazorSharpFang> My base is huge. I'd need to zoom out 5x more than the max to cover the whole thing on the screen.

18:47 <Ali> Cause it tells you what you put in chests

18:48 <RazorSharpFang> Unfortunately, I'd been already doing that

18:48 <RazorSharpFang> I finally found them - I forgot I even had chests in that zone.

18:49 <Ali> See I helped :P

18:50 <RazorSharpFang> There's this huge plume of red that's over my base. I'm polluting like mad.

18:51 <Ali> Well that 25k of steam went away fast

18:51 <RazorSharpFang> Yeah, the steam engine just absorbs it so fast.

18:52 <Ali> Well I used 3 radar on it

18:52 <Ali> I just needed a sweep of the area to know where to look for things or enemies

18:52 <RazorSharpFang> All at once? I didn't think they stacked on the same area.

18:53 <RazorSharpFang> Oh, you mean for map reveal?

18:53 <RazorSharpFang> Er, scan.

18:53 <Ali> They scan 3 different locations

18:53 <Ali> Found a 473% oil field

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18:53 <Ali> One thing I don't like

18:53 <RazorSharpFang> That's pretty good - how many puddles is that?

18:54 <Ali> Is that when you process the oil

18:54 <Ali> If one of the 3 is full, it stops making any

18:54 <Ali> 5 puddles RazorSharpFang

18:54 <RazorSharpFang> Yeah, it backs up pretty easily.

18:54 <RazorSharpFang> Just gotta stick oil tanks on there and monitor it every so often.

18:54 <Ali> Bleh, I need more labs running

18:55 <RazorSharpFang> Unneeded oils/fuels can be turned into solid fuel, which you can run boilers on.

18:55 <Ali> Going with 3 right now on solar and its just gonna take forever..  I need to redesign this area

18:55 <RazorSharpFang> Not gonna lie, I spend just as much time redesigning and pulling things up as I do building.

18:58 <Ali> Once Solar is done I think I'm gonna have to revamp the lap area

18:58 <Ali> Cause going with just 3 labs now in tier two techs is just slow as all get.

18:58 <RazorSharpFang> No idea what you mean by lap area.

18:58 <Ali> lab

18:58 * Ali baps that p back up to a b

18:59 <RazorSharpFang> Ah yes. Labs are a focal point of refactoring.

18:59 <Ali> I'm gonna hate it when steel becomes a bigger strain

19:00 <Ali> Cause I'm kinda limited on iron right now

19:00 <RazorSharpFang> If it's any consolation, I'm always out of steel.

19:00 <Ali> There's patches nearby

19:00 <Ali> But I need to get to train tech before I run dry

19:01 <RazorSharpFang> If you can't reach train prior, you can use a car instead - their trunk is pretty decent for capacity, but you have to drive it manually.

19:02 <Ali> Well I have a small stockpile of bottles but I'm not very close to running out just yet

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19:09 <RazorSharpFang> I also have an ever-growing collection of chests full of wood.

19:09 <RazorSharpFang> Since I don't use wood for anything anymore.

19:10 <Ali> I rarely cut down trees

19:10 <Ali> I get by with enough wood for some copper power poles

19:10 <RazorSharpFang> They're just sometimes in the way.

19:10 <Ali> Then once I get the next level

19:10 <Ali> I understand that

19:10 <Ali> but wood has very little use and they're a bit of a pollution buffer

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19:11 <RazorSharpFang> Yeah, I know that. I just mean that I've been expanding so much, I have to chop down all these trees in the zone that I'm expanding to.

19:24 <Ali> RazorSharpFang, do you set up 4 lane belts?

19:31 <RazorSharpFang> For what?

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19:45 <Ali> Just moving items into a single line for production

19:45 <Ali> Sorry was busy reworking the line there X.x

19:46 <RazorSharpFang> So far I just have a single belt per item-category, but I double-type them for inserting into assemblers, because it's more space efficient.

19:47 <Ali> I have full belts to

19:47 <Ali> My 4 belt line is gears/iron/copper/wire

19:47 <RazorSharpFang> Are you making a bus?

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19:47 <Ali> I guess?

19:48 <RazorSharpFang> They're pretty good, but they take ages to set up, and a lot of space.

19:49 <Ali> Well the first tier of underground belts are very restricting on how flexable you can be

19:49 <RazorSharpFang> That, and it'll take a while for them to sort themselves out as far as distribution of resources go, at least my design.

19:49 <RazorSharpFang> Logistics 2 is a big step above logistics 1.

19:50 <Ali> I tend to run out of gears so fast if my system gets behind

19:51 <RazorSharpFang> Yeah, it's unclear which item will be the limiting reagant.

19:52 <ADragonDreaming> gears are common.

19:52 <ADragonDreaming> just because you need so dang many of them for everything.

19:53 <Ali> And if it isn't gears, its iron

19:54 <Ali> Though I must say my furnace layout right now is still on the basics so that will slow them down

19:54 <Ali> I have my steel on tier 2 cause steel production is SLOW

19:55 <RazorSharpFang> Yeah, cooking the iron into steel takes quite some time.

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20:04 <Ali> Ok, working on Logistics2, fully walled in, turrets on the heavy polluting side.  Just need to keep working on effiecent stuff >.<

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20:16 <RazorSharpFang> I'm trying to set up a nuclear reactor now, I didn't realise how long refinement was going to take.

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20:19 <Ali> My head hurts from the advanced signal tutorial

20:20 <Pi> Hey Ali

20:20 * Ali wavies

20:21 <Pi> Whatcha doing?

20:21 <Ali> Factorio of pain

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20:41 <Pony_01> Hi

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20:50 <ADragonDreaming> Hi.

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22:50 <PinkieShy> Got a new Candle :P

22:50 <PinkieShy> It was $1 and its Starburst.. Finally got one of them :P

22:50 <PinkieShy> It was either that or skittles candles.

22:51 <Fall> Wait. They sell candles that smell like sweets? That sounds amazing

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23:03 <SunsetShimmer> there's candles that smell like seasons - so it's not a huge surprise to hear that there's something like that

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23:04 <PinkieShy> I think skittles and starburst even licenses the company to do it..

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23:04 <PinkieShy> Its the starburst and skittles logo on them lol

23:04 * Ali sniffs SunsetShimmer, mmmm bacon

23:04 <Fall> That's a bacon candle, Ali

23:05 <Ali> No its a shimmy

23:05 <SunsetShimmer> ;3

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23:40 <Ali> ADragonDreaming, do you ever have problems where inserters just....stop inserting and refuse to work?

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23:51 <ADragonDreaming> there is usually a reason

23:51 <ADragonDreaming> target inventory full

23:51 <ADragonDreaming> lack of fuel/power

23:53 <Ali> Well I have this inserter pointed towards a effient module assembler

23:53 <Ali> but if there's 2 already built, and the limit is four, it stops inserting the circuts

23:54 <ADragonDreaming> If I remember correctly, inserter logic with assemblers is to keep enough material stocked to build two

23:54 <ADragonDreaming> if it's got enough of that material stocked it won't insert more

23:54 <Ali> ...

23:55 * Ali derps she thinks

23:55 <Ali> No the effient thing need 5 normal circuts and 5 advanced

23:56 <Ali> And the building had 2 and wasn't inserting anymore

23:56 <ADragonDreaming> had 2 of which?

23:56 <Ali> Advanced

23:58 <Cepheid> I don't know who thought it was a good idea to induce a friggen ice storm in the middle of April but it is wreaking havoc on my sinuses and my body.  Blagh.  *flops to bed to sleep some more.*

23:58 <Cepheid> And yes, inserter logic only inserts enough to craft up to two times in the assemblers.

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23:58 <ADragonDreaming> I'm in the exact same boat, Cpeheid

23:58 <ADragonDreaming> Ali, can you screenshot the problem thing?

23:59 <Ali> I can't right now

23:59 <Ali> But one time earlier in this run

23:59 <Ali> I had an assembler 1 near a furnace making stone bricks for walls

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