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00:16 <Tulip> Anyone here
00:17 <Fall> Yup
00:17 <Tulip> ahem anypony here
00:17 <Fall> Indeed there is
00:17 <RazorSharpFang> [Citation Needed]
00:17 <Fall> How's life, Tulip
00:17 <Tulip> Anyone wanna rp?
00:17 <Tulip> Its good i did art
00:18 <Tulip> If anyone wants to see its on my deviantart
00:18 <Fall> Art of what...? Keep in mind this channel is PG
00:18 <Tulip> Ik
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00:23 <Razzaroo> The art i made isnt uploaded yet
00:24 <Razzaroo> Btw tulip is me xD
00:24 <Razzaroo> I gotta stop going under different accounts
00:24 <Fall> Gotchers
00:25 <Razzaroo> I made some anime ones ones wedding peach
00:25 <Razzaroo> Another is venus
00:25 <Razzaroo> And the one i left behind is skystar
00:26 * Fall has a wedding Peach amiibo! It's... weird.
00:26 <Razzaroo> Ooh so cool :3
00:28 <Fall> What did you mean by "left behind"
00:28 <Razzaroo> i left a link
00:29 <Razzaroo> Of skystar
00:29 <Razzaroo> In my bishoujo style
00:29 <Razzaroo> xD
00:29 <Fall> Nope, no links there
00:29 <Razzaroo> Oh welp
00:29 <ADragonDreaming> Yeah, no link was posted.
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00:30 <Razzaroo> ilh
00:31 <Razzaroo> Its traditional so proba no one will like it
00:31 <Razzaroo> probs
00:33 <Fall> Link it again, I'll have have a gawk.
00:33 * Fall doesn't know who Skystar is
00:33 <Razzaroo> Omg!
00:34 <Razzaroo> xD
00:36 <Razzaroo> https://regularshowfan13.deviantart.com/art/Princess-Sky-Star-739804091
00:37 <Tempest-Shadow> Fall, go watch the MLP movie. :P
00:37 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Story Updates - April 17th [ http://tinyurl.com/yah8r78m ]
00:37 <Fall> Oh, that was you that popped in hours ago
00:37 <Razzaroo> Yup :3
00:37 <Razzaroo> The blue haired girl is skystar
00:37 <Fall> There's an MLP movie O.o
00:38 <Razzaroo> A one with actually ponies in it
00:38 <Razzaroo> xD
00:38 <Razzaroo> eqg doesnt count
00:38 <Fall> The eighties one? Seen it....
00:39 <Razzaroo> Hmm i think
00:39 <Razzaroo> Also high five xD
00:39 <Razzaroo> You like the old generations too
00:40 <Fall> Nope. But I forced myself to watch that a couple of years ago
00:40 <Razzaroo> Its good wth
00:41 <Cepheid> If there was anything I didn't like about that exam, it was that there were no calculators allowed. Not necessarily a problem in some exams and some courses, except..
00:41 <Cepheid> We were being asked to calculate e^4, e^2, pi^5 and so on.
00:41 <Fall> It's bad enough the modern ponies look like cats, but at least they don't look like hippos the way they do in the old movie....
00:41 <Razzaroo> I only grew up with g3 to be fair tho xp
00:42 <Razzaroo> I never saw 3.5 as a kid
00:42 <Razzaroo> But heard of it
00:42 * Cepheid gnaws on RazorSharpFang's base.
00:42 <Fall> I suppose it was charming
00:43 <Razzaroo> ?
00:45 <Fall> The old stuff.
00:45 <Fall> The really old stuff. The new old stuff, not so much
00:46 <Razzaroo> I liked g3's minty and pinkie pie
00:46 <Razzaroo> They were ditz
00:46 <Razzaroo> I liked there design
00:48 <Fall> I never watched that, I don't believe
00:48 <Razzaroo> everyone usually says they look weird but i disagree
00:50 <Razzaroo> there chubby and cute :3 and have wavy hair
00:50 <Fall> And ginormous feet
00:50 <Razzaroo> xD
00:50 <Razzaroo> yes
00:51 <Coco`> *they're
00:53 <Razzaroo> Fall they dont look like hippos xD
00:53 <Fall> The really old ones do! In the movie!
00:54 <Razzaroo> hmm
00:54 <Fall> Well I think so. And I'm usually right about everything
00:54 <Razzaroo> OK then x D geez
00:57 <Razzaroo> spike is cute
00:57 <Razzaroo> from the 80s
00:58 <Fall> Welll... he does have a bit of hippo in him too
00:58 <Fall> God everything was chubby back then
00:58 <Razzaroo> Haha omg Fall
00:58 <Fall> I think they just didn't know how to draw anything from the front!
00:58 <Razzaroo> Ouch xD
00:59 <Razzaroo> why?
01:00 <Fall> Cuz any time they showed something from the front, it just looked wider and rounder. From the side they're mostly okay, I suppose
01:01 <Razzaroo> haha your so judgey xD
01:01 <Razzaroo> It was 80s art afterall
01:01 <Razzaroo> That and
01:01 <Fall> I demand that this 35-year-old movie conform to my modern standards
01:01 <Razzaroo> Its supposed to be chubby perhaps?
01:02 <Razzaroo> To be seen as cuter
01:02 <Fall> Yeah, maybe
01:03 <Razzaroo> Your right about one thing
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01:04 <Razzaroo> mlp now a days looks like cats
01:05 <Fall> Right? Except for the tails and manes obviously but everything else!
01:05 <Razzaroo> The ears
01:05 <Razzaroo> The eyes
01:05 <Razzaroo> And mannerisms
01:05 <Razzaroo> But the hoofs
01:05 <Razzaroo> Still look like hoofs
01:07 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by The Illustrious Q: EXCLUSIVE: My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic #68 Revealed—Synposis, Artists, and Writer! [ http://tinyurl.com/ycnpc2h8 ]
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01:18 <Razzaroo> Lol
01:22 <Razzaroo> hi
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01:24 <Razzaroo> any good music to listen too
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01:29 <Coco`> *to
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01:37 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by The Illustrious Q: EXCLUSIVE: My Little Pony: Ponyville Mysteries #3 Revealed—Synposis, Artists, and Writer! [ http://tinyurl.com/y955ntm6 ]
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01:47 * Schism rolls over and boops Surry with a shepherd's pie.
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01:48 * Filly_Nightmares nests on the pie and eees at Schism
01:48 * Schism ees... but... but that's mashed taters! It is not for nesting!
01:50 * Filly_Nightmares sees food bed!
01:50 * Schism supposes that it is nice and warm, at least.
01:50 * Filly_Nightmares starts to nom her food bed
01:51 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> I beaten A Way Out.
01:51 * Cepheid hands Schism over to a Boojum.
01:51 * The_Nostalgia_Mare sits on Schism, feeling Empty.
01:52 * Schism provides Nossy with... oh... some banana bread!
01:52 <Schism> Cepheid: But I rarely hunt snarks...
01:53 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> Schism: The ending to A Way Out crushed me and my friend...
01:58 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> Schism, You and Cepheid should play this game. I reccomend it.
01:58 <Schism> Perhaps...!
01:59 <Cepheid> Heh.
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02:00 <The_Nostalgia-Mare> Schism and Cepheid: It only requires one of you to have a copy of the game.
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02:07 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Nightly Discussion #1413 [ http://tinyurl.com/y9saqd67 ]
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02:09 * Tempest-Shadow crashes next to ali
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02:09 * Filly_Nightmares naps
02:10 * Ali cuddles on Telofy
02:10 <Ali> Oh darn it
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02:15 <Cyan_Spark> Teflon?
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02:53 <Thelema5> Hello everypony
02:56 <Cepheid> Hullo.
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02:59 <Cepheid> I think my cat misses me(I've been hiding away in my bedroom studying or doing work for the last two weeks now, mostly keeping the cats out as I work.) He just walked into the living room as I did, and went "Mrraaaaoooooiiiwwww~!" following alongside me until he got to the carpet, flopped over and demanded pets.
03:01 <Thelema5> Cuuute
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03:06 <Cepheid> Primarily I don't let them in because they either sit in front of my monitor, or they try to get onto my lap.
03:12 * Cepheid sends Thelema5 on a mission to hunt a Snark.
03:13 * Thelema5 snickersnacks
03:14 <Cepheid> I should read that next, Jabberwocky.
03:15 <Thelema5> It's a short little thing
03:15 <Cepheid> Again, Spitfire? Gonna try to mount and dominante my arm again?
03:16 <Cepheid> And yeah, The Hunting of the Snark was a short one, too.
03:19 <PinkieShy> heh.. lilo and stitch "What's BRB stand for? Big Red Battleship!"
03:19 <Cepheid> Seriously, Spitfire, what are you doing? You look confused.
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03:31 <Cepheid> Tomorrow, the beard comes off.
03:36 <Thelema5> Good luck!
03:37 <Cepheid> It's grown too long.
03:38 <Cepheid> I'm starting to find it getting caught in my mouth when I eat. Or just plain growing directly into my mouth.
03:42 <PinkieShy> Thelema5 you remember lake busbee?
03:42 <PinkieShy> Unless you ever been to my part of south carolina.. lol
03:42 <Thelema5> I hate that. I usually trim the hair around my mouth, and shape the rest of it. For me the tipping point is when the tip of my beard starts to drag onto my plate when eating
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03:43 <Thelema5> PinkieShy, I have been /through/ your area, but only on my way to Myrtle Beach
03:43 <Thelema5> The lake sounds familiar, but I don't think I was ever there
03:43 <PinkieShy> Lake Busbee is getting drained.
03:43 <PinkieShy> the electric company that used it don't pump it no more so they are draining it..
03:43 <PinkieShy> Letting it return to its natural wetland state.. so they can plant trees out there.
03:44 <PinkieShy> Its been there for years.. It should be a landmark.. But they are draining it..
03:44 <Thelema5> I wonder what they'll find at the bottom
03:44 <PinkieShy> Probably aligators chilling lol
03:44 <PinkieShy> There is a swamp right behind it.
03:44 <Thelema5> Yikes!
03:45 <Cepheid> So what you're saying is they'll find politicians, then.
03:46 * Cepheid randomly hands Schism a Monika plushie.
03:46 <Thelema5> Right up the road from me is an artificial lake created for New York City's water supply by damming a certain creek a century and a half ago... they destroyed 4 towns in the process, didn't even tear them down. Those towns still exist, underwater, slowly being reclaimed
03:47 <Thelema5> Just flooded them out
03:47 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by The Illustrious Q: EXCLUSIVE: My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic #68 Revealed—Synposis, Artists, and Writer! [ http://tinyurl.com/ycnpc2h8 ]
03:47 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by The Illustrious Q: EXCLUSIVE: My Little Pony: Ponyville Mysteries #3 Revealed—Synposis, Artists, and Writer! [ http://tinyurl.com/y955ntm6 ]
03:48 <Thelema5> https://untappedcities.com/2015/06/22/some-of-nycs-drinking-water-comes-from-drowned-towns-in-the-catskills/
03:49 <Thelema5> "32 cemeteries were unearthed and the 1,800 residents buried elsewhere, to limit water contamination"
03:49 <Thelema5> Monsters
04:05 * Schism returns for a moment. "Ah. Just Monika."
04:05 * Ali flops on Schism
04:05 * Schism boops Ali with a tonberry.
04:05 * Ali runs away!!!
04:05 * Ali drops 146 gil and a magic fire ring
04:06 * Cepheid stands next to the tonberry, getting doinked repeatedly. Keeps healing self.
04:06 <Cepheid> I don't think it has the capacity to kill me..
04:07 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Tabitha St. Germain Heading to BronyCon! [ http://tinyurl.com/yao9oq42 ]
04:13 <Cepheid> Schism: Been playing Path of Exile lately. Bosses for Act 5 and onwards take a different approach to fighting.
04:14 <Cepheid> Basically it goes like this: Telegraphed attack. If you don't move, you just plain die.
04:15 <Schism> Yeeeah. o.o I noticed that.
04:16 <Cepheid> It feels like an ARPG version of Touhou.
04:16 <Cepheid> And you only got one life.
04:17 <Cepheid> That said, your character also tends to grow pretty quickly past Act 4. I've gone from a little over 2,000 DPS to over 4,500+ DPS in a few levels.
04:26 * DashedRainbows licks Thelema5. How are you?
04:28 <Thelema5> I'm okay. You?
04:30 <Thelema5> I'm concerned that my SO is suffering from a vitamin D deficiency. She's a vegetarian, which is a major causitive factor... and she has been having emotional swings and severe lack of energy these past weeks... this all points to a B12 deficiency
04:30 <Cepheid> Not quite sure how my character is able to raise zombies from SKELETONS..
04:31 <Thelema5> I'm worried sick about it
04:32 <Cepheid> Ah, I love stubborn family members who won't do what's good for them.
04:32 <Cepheid> Both my parents are stubborn as hell.
04:34 <DashedRainbows> Thelema5: I'm doing okay for now
04:35 <Thelema5> Cepheid, how do you make them see what's going on?
04:35 <Thelema5> DashedRainbows, that's awesome
04:35 <DashedRainbows> Darn medicine, knocks me out when unwanted does nothing right now
04:38 <Cepheid> The only approaches that worked for me was "Pester them relentlessly to the point of frustration and/or annoyance" or "Let them suffer the consequences."
04:40 <Cepheid> I wish there was a more effective method.
04:40 <Cepheid> So far, the only approach outside of "wait and let them suffer for their actions" that worked has been "piss them off with your constant concern for their wellbeing."
04:43 <DashedRainbows> So I went to the movies again today
04:43 <DashedRainbows> It was pretty good
04:43 <DashedRainbows> I need to get out more often
04:44 <Thelema5> DashedRainbows, what did you see?
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04:45 <DashedRainbows> Ready Player One
04:45 <Thelema5> Ooh, how was it?
04:45 <Thelema5> I've heard good and bad things
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04:49 <DashedRainbows> I found the characters enjoyable and the plot not half bad
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05:09 <Cepheid> Mmm. Regicide Mask. Along with my Ambush Boots I now have all the items needed to murder a king. o3o
05:13 <PinkieShy> aaaah :D
05:13 <PinkieShy> I'm about to be part of a kitten marching band on VRchat again!!! :D
05:13 <Finwe> o3o
05:14 <Finwe> Good morning, everypony!
05:14 * PinkieShy feeds Finwe popcorn
05:17 * DashedRainbows licks PinkieShy and waves at Finwe
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05:57 <Cepheid> Microsoft, this is an example of why NO ONE LIKES YOU. I just heard the "Device Disconnected" sound on my PC, but the OS won't say what it was that disconnected.
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06:31 <Cepheid> Ooookay people!
06:31 <Cepheid> I picked up Darkest Dungeon as it was on sale on Steam. I need names for our (Not-so-fearless) adventurers.
06:34 <Cepheid> The starting team consists of a Crusader, a Highwayman, a Plague Doctor and Vestal(A nun.).
06:34 <Cepheid> Pick one, give me a name, and I'll make it so. I can add to the roster.
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06:50 * Ali sits on Cepheid for sometime eventually down the road in Factorio! :P
06:52 <Cepheid> Probably tomorrow afternoon or later this week, for certain.
06:53 * Ali nod nods
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07:00 <Cepheid> In the meantime, I am gonna eat a bowl of cereal then go lay down.
07:07 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by The Illustrious Q: My Little Pony: Legends of Magic Annual Released Today! - Download Links, Variants, Discussion! [ http://tinyurl.com/ycq9qkjj ]
07:07 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by The Illustrious Q: My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic #65 Released Today! - Download Links, Variants, Discussion! [ http://tinyurl.com/y7cvln8t ]
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07:13 <Ali> That can't be right, I didn't see either pony comic at my comic shop
07:17 <Cepheid> Might not have received their stock today?
07:17 <Ali> they always have the stock the day before
07:18 <Cepheid> Huh. No idea then.
07:21 * Ali doesn't either as she sads over having just one single oil field in her area of safety
07:24 * Cepheid bork bork borks.
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07:27 <ConfusionRift> Hello everypony.
07:27 <Cepheid> Morning.
07:27 * ConfusionRift waves.
07:28 <Cepheid> How goes it?
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07:28 <ConfusionRift> Pretty dead day, just chillin'.
07:33 <Cepheid> Myself, I'm wondering what all that white stuff on the ground outside is.
07:34 <ConfusionRift> Forgot how great it felt to ricochet a beam from a guardian in BoTW.
07:34 <ConfusionRift> Hmm... snow?
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07:34 <ConfusionRift> I mean, I dunno. Weather's been real wacky.
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07:39 <Cepheid> Snow, ice pellets, looks like.
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07:41 * Cepheid wanders off to bed.
07:41 <Cepheid> I need sleep. Night.
07:42 <ConfusionRift> Have a good one.
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08:26 <Sleeping_Nightmares> Nini
08:26 * ConfusionRift patpats Sleeping_Nightmares. "Laters."
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16:25 <Finwe> Good evening, my smallish perissodactyls.
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17:14 <Tempest-Shadow> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKfFm2fcXOU - Here, be hungry! :P
17:14 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.
17:14 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about MAKING THE CHOCOLATE WHOPPER | MY WAY
17:16 <Ali> That sounds...disgusting Tempest-Shadow
17:17 <Tempest-Shadow> xD
17:17 <Fall> Chocolate pizzas, now chocolate burgers.... what is wrong ith you people
17:30 <RyuImperator> hi
17:31 <Tirek> Who dares disturb the natural order of meals and desserts?
17:32 <RazorSharpFang> Order, huh...
17:34 <Tirek> Your chocolate burgers are forfeit
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20:21 <Nuclear> Anyone who makes in excess of $200k a year must pay 94% above that threshold in the form of federal income taxes.
20:23 <RazorSharpFang> Nuclear, is that before expenses, and is that current policy or are you proposing it?
20:25 * Ali lays on RazorSharpFang
20:25 <RazorSharpFang> Hey Ali. I'm doinga different factorio map, this time with mods. I'm running a resource overhaul, and that, uh, rampage or whatever mod.
20:25 * Ali doesn't know mods!
20:26 <RazorSharpFang> Yeah, the mod mostly changes the AI of the enemy to be a LOT more smart.
20:26 <RazorSharpFang> So they'll do flanking, retreats, etc.
20:28 <Ali> Not charge headstrong into a turret laced wall?
20:28 <RazorSharpFang> They will actually try to avoid turrets, if possible.
20:29 <Ali> I have a 3300% oil field
20:29 <Ali> Just...can't....get...it....soooooonnnn
20:29 <RazorSharpFang> That's a very nice find.
20:29 <RazorSharpFang> It's worth working towards. My current field has dropped to 20% yield.
20:29 <Ali> Its sadly quite a trek away for now but was in the innitial radar sweep range
20:30 <Nuclear> RazorSharp, here is my tax proposal: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1PEbL7o7QSyZJ7mYzZyb65OBHfg3zDy0x/view?usp=drivesdk Here is the current taxation landscape for this 2018 year: https://www.edwardjones.com/images/OPR-9806B-A-2018-federal-tax-brackets.pdf
20:30 <Nuclear> This country needs real change, I think this is the best way to do it.
20:31 <RazorSharpFang> Well, I think the current precedent is that isolationist policies tend to cause hyperinflation and capital flight; I think this would also occur if you attempted these tax reforms.
20:35 <RazorSharpFang> Ali, yeah, I initially underestimated the value that Radars have; not only are they a persistant reveal of a zone, they periodically reveal the nearby zone, with quite a range! So it's great for passive-scouting.
20:35 <Ali> Sadly they drain a constant amount of power that can't be reduced.
20:36 <RazorSharpFang> Yeah, you pay for it.
20:36 <RazorSharpFang> I'm doing a lot of pollution with 36 steam engines.
20:37 <Ali> Its not hte steam engines
20:37 <Ali> Its the boilers
20:38 <RazorSharpFang> Okay, but the steam engines imply (to a certain degree) boilers for the steam.
20:39 <Ali> Right
20:39 <Ali> But if you look on the overlay
20:39 <Ali> Boilers are 27 pollution
20:39 <Ali> And Steam Engines don't have any value
20:39 <RazorSharpFang> I call that a tool-tip.
20:39 <Nuclear> RazorSharpFang, yeah, it seems too risky and would never be accepted.
20:39 <Ali> :P
20:40 <Nuclear> Koch Bros. would squeal bloody murder.
20:40 <RazorSharpFang> Nuclear, I think it wouldn't be accepted for very good reasons. Not good as in moral, but as in practical reasons.
20:40 <Nuclear> But this is the best way to prevent globalization and capital flight, it's already damaged us so much already.
20:41 <Nuclear> It'll likely never occur, though.
20:41 <RazorSharpFang> Damned if you do, damned if you don't; is that what you're saying?
20:42 <Ali> Pretty much
20:43 <Nuclear> Yeah.
20:44 <RazorSharpFang> Might even be better off trying to start your own nation; maybe a nation started from isolationist principles could function, but trying to take an existing society would tank it into the ground.
21:07 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by ExplodingPonyToast: Music: Jyc Row - Beauty [Orchestral] [ http://tinyurl.com/y8trb9no ]
21:27 <Cepheid> !log
21:27 <Unixkitty> https://unixkitty.com/logs/EquestriaDaily/latest.log.html
21:28 <Cepheid> Razor, a fun thing about steam and steam engines.
21:29 <Cepheid> One of my favourite things to do is to connect all the boilers up to a set of fluid tanks, and hook the fluid tanks up to steam engines. Acts as a giant battery, and a buffer.
21:29 <Cepheid> Basically, if something slows or stops the boilers, you'll have some time before the engines themselves run out of steam to work with.
21:30 * Ali glomps Cepheid
21:32 <Cepheid> Morning.
21:33 <RazorSharpFang> Cepheid, that's actually my current setup. I have 4 steam engines per boiler, and a fluid tank per boiler.
21:34 <Cepheid> Heh.
21:35 <Cepheid> I usually just do "All boilers output to a grid of 4x4 tanks or 8x8 tanks. The tanks have pumps that supply long lines of steam engines."
21:35 <Cepheid> Today's plan...
21:35 <Cepheid> Clean up my bedroom. Put stuff back into storage, clean off the desk, sweep the abnormally dirty floor covered in cat fur..
21:38 <Cepheid> https://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820250088&cm_re=WD_BLUE_1tb-_-20-250-088-_-Product Sweet geezus, look at the price for that.
21:38 <RazorSharpFang> Is that high or low?
21:38 <Cepheid> Low.
21:38 <Cepheid> When I heard about it, I was expecting about $500-$600 CAD.
21:39 <Cepheid> As a while back, the average price per gigabyte of storage on an SSD was about $0.50
21:40 <Cepheid> Even the M.2 version is cheap. Only $10 more.
21:40 <Cepheid> That would translate to, hmm.. You're in that prison co- Er, country called Australia, right?
21:41 <Cepheid> Huh. Canadian Dollar <-> Australian Dollar is pretty much at parity.
21:42 <RazorSharpFang> That's interesting.
21:45 * Cepheid also apologizes for that terrible joke.
21:46 <RazorSharpFang> At this point, it's been incorporated into the identity
21:47 <Cepheid> I'm honestly surprised that Canada hasn't acquired some negative tone name regarding our peace-keeper position in many conflicts.
21:47 <Cepheid> "Those Canadians are a bunch of peace-loving, tree-hugging hippies."
21:47 <RazorSharpFang> There is that "canadians are polite" meme
21:49 <Ali> They do sorry a lot
21:49 <Cepheid> Except that one is generally true.
21:50 <Cepheid> I don't know why it happens, but we just have this weird habit of saying sorry a lot, and in general being very polite towards others.
21:50 <Cepheid> Like holding the doors open, or buying a round of drinks for people. Rather than constantly flinging insults at them, picking fights, and staging protests over- ... Nah, I'm not gonna go where.
21:50 <Cepheid> Er, there*
21:50 <RazorSharpFang> Well, I'd make the proposition that a lot of memes and stereotypes like that come forth from the collective experience that's socially negotiated.
21:50 <RazorSharpFang> But a lot of people detest that proposition.
21:51 <Cepheid> Heh.
21:51 <Cepheid> Truth is, we're polite, yes. But if you piss us off, we become dangerous.
21:51 * Ali holds doors open and she's a filthy american
21:51 <RazorSharpFang> They'd like to make the counter-proposition: Only bad people propose that proposition.
21:51 <Cepheid> We're that "quiet kid at school."
21:52 <Ali> You'll send the mounted moose police
21:52 <Cepheid> Specifically the one who ends up doing something extreme.
21:53 <Cepheid> Ali: Though we were not a country at the time, many Canadian's ancestors were part of the British Colony back then, so many consider it an act of Canadianism, we did in fact invade the US and burn down the white house.
21:53 <Ali> YOU JERKS :P
21:54 <Cepheid> We could probably pull it off again. That is, before the US just steamrolls us.
21:56 <Ali> You know I wish I could drive the vehicles better in Factorio. I get tired of slamming into everything
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21:57 <RazorSharpFang> I think it's important to properly manage how zoomed you are; too zoomed out for your speed and you can't see the obsticle; too zoomed in and you can't see it before you hit it, or you run into a base.
21:58 <Ali> And driving at night oh dear lord
21:58 <RazorSharpFang> Just don't do that until you have night vision. Spare yourself.
21:58 <Ali> You can't see for shite
21:58 * Ali cleverly avoids swearing but still smacks herself
22:02 <Ali> Also why can't tanks rotate to face E/W
22:03 <RazorSharpFang> :shrug: You can rotate on the spot anyway.
22:06 <Ali> Yes but they still only face N/S on the exits
22:06 <RazorSharpFang> Exits?
22:06 <Ali> The entry/exit points on the tank
22:06 <Ali> They only ever face north or south
22:07 <RazorSharpFang> I haven't noticed at all; I barely know what you're talking about.
22:07 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Drawfriend Stuff (Pony Art Gallery) #2595 [ http://tinyurl.com/yadsqocz ]
22:07 <Ali> And when you rotate a tank, it rotates 180 degrees
22:10 <Cepheid> You mean when you get out of a tank you'll appear near the top or bottom of it?
22:10 <Ali> Storage tank Cepheid
22:10 <RazorSharpFang> STORAGE TANK. I thought you mean weaponry tank.
22:11 * Ali FLAILS
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22:12 <ADragonDreaming> Ali: they face east-west too
22:12 <Ali> No they don't
22:12 <ADragonDreaming> just at the same corner
22:12 <RazorSharpFang> Let me show you a doctored image.
22:12 <ADragonDreaming> unless they changed it since I played
22:12 <RazorSharpFang> https://i.imgur.com/MD2P5fp.jpg - Red arrows for possible entry points
22:13 <ADragonDreaming> yeah, that
22:13 <Cepheid> Oh, that.
22:13 <RazorSharpFang> Only corners tho
22:13 <RazorSharpFang> For whatever reason
22:13 <Cepheid> Because the devs hate us.
22:15 <RazorSharpFang> Cepheid, is there an upper limit on how much fluid can flow through a pipe in terms of throughput?
22:16 <ADragonDreaming> wiki might know
22:17 <Cepheid> There is an upper limit, I don't know what it is off hand.
22:18 <Cepheid> I think it's like, 200 units.
22:18 <Cepheid> Ah, the wiki says 100.
22:19 <RazorSharpFang> isn't 100 the capacity of a single pipe?
22:20 <Cepheid> It is, yes.
22:20 <Cepheid> But that also defines the limit of how much a single pipe can handle as well.
22:21 <Cepheid> If you tried to pump 200 fluid into a container that could only hold 100, it wouldn't work. It'd either just stop pumping, or, if the pump was really stubborn, force it in there and cause a rupture or explosion.
22:21 <Cepheid> I presume that this limit is per tick, so 1/60th of a second it can handle 100 fluid.
22:21 <Cepheid> That means per second, the throughput is 6,000 fluid.
22:22 <RazorSharpFang> Okay, but if you had a set of 30 pumpjacks that have been jacked to hell with speed modules from beacons, and 10000 pipes away was a oil refinery, would the refinery get throughput, and after how long?
22:23 <Cepheid> Oh. You mean how fast does it travel across pipes.
22:23 <Cepheid> Experience indicates it's near instantaneous.
22:23 <RazorSharpFang> I did say throughput.
22:24 <Cepheid> I was thinking throughput in the sense of volume of water per second through some cross section.
22:24 <Cepheid> The exact speed, I'm not entirely sure.
22:25 <Cepheid> According to the wiki..
22:25 <RazorSharpFang> Just wondering if I should employ pumps to ensure that it works.
22:27 <Cepheid> It appears to be dependent on the pressure of the fluid boxes that the game uses.
22:28 <Cepheid> According to the wiki, all fluid boxes connected together are treated as one large fluid box, and the system tries to balance the fluid out amongst all the connected boxes.
22:29 <Cepheid> The end-result is that as the pipe increases in length, the flow of fluid decreases.
22:29 <Cepheid> So yes, if you have a very long pipe, using pumps is a good idea.
22:29 <Cepheid> https://wiki.factorio.com/Fluid_system
22:30 <RazorSharpFang> I'm actually on that page right now :P
22:30 <Cepheid> Heh.
22:31 <RazorSharpFang> I'm just not great at reading comprehension whilst tired.
22:31 <Cepheid> In any case, I need to wander off and do some chores.
22:31 <Cepheid> I'll be back later.
22:32 <RazorSharpFang> Alrighty. Rampant's going pretty well, but getting to the distant ore veins is troublesome.
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22:38 <ADragonDreaming> https://imgur.com/gallery/R9xV2
22:39 <RazorSharpFang> That's a pretty neat tale.
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