00:00 <Cepheid> Ah.
00:01 <Razzaroo> yea haha sorry about turning this into a weird intervention xP
00:01 <Cepheid> Nah, it's fine. :P
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00:02 <Razzaroo> Cepheid
00:02 <Razzaroo> i did it xD
00:02 <Cepheid> Hmm?
00:02 <Razzaroo> The name link
00:02 <Cepheid> Ah, yeah.
00:03 <Cepheid> I'm not sure what client you're using to connect, but most clients allow you to type a few letters of a name, and press tab to autocomplete.
00:05 <Razzaroo> ok
00:06 <Razzaroo> ~.~
00:07 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Drawfriend Stuff (Pony Art Gallery) #2601 [ http://tinyurl.com/ybwehuz9 ]
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00:09 <Cepheid> I am gonna eat something then go to bed. I am exhausted for some reason.
00:11 <Razzaroo> Brb gotta do things
00:11 <Razzaroo> im staying logged on for awhile
00:16 <Razzaroo> back lol
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00:36 <Cepheid> I dunno why I am so tired today. Feel like I didn't sleep. Maybe I didn't get enough sleep to counteract all the stress exhaustion from yesterday.
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02:10 <Razzaroo> 🎁🎈 razzaroo
02:10 <Razzaroo> is here
02:11 <Razzaroo> https://goo.gl/images/ACy6oi
02:14 <ADragonDreaming> Oh hey, Generation 1.
02:14 <Razzaroo> 3
02:14 <ADragonDreaming> hmm...
02:14 <ADragonDreaming> You are correct.
02:14 <Razzaroo> 2003 or 2005 i think it was made
02:14 <Ali> At least not 3.5!
02:15 <Razzaroo> I grew up with it 90s or 2000s kids probably know it
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02:17 <ADragonDreaming> Eh. I was watching other things when child.
02:17 <Razzaroo> https://goo.gl/images/zCA1Kz
02:17 <Razzaroo> this is g1
02:17 <Razzaroo> spike
02:20 <Razzaroo> Dragon dreams sounds cool
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02:27 <Razzaroo> hmm
02:27 <Razzaroo> anything new going on
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02:32 <Schism> Today now sucks, massively...
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02:33 * Ali snugs the Schism
02:33 * Schism hugs the Ali back. Was bottom-lined. Also, his brother pissed off the landlord even more.
02:33 <Razzaroo> Why
02:34 <Razzaroo> Oh
02:35 <Schism> Granted, the job was... probably no good for me. It was very much a 24/7 job.
02:35 <Razzaroo> Aw..
02:36 <Schism> I was growing increasingly depressed, desperate, and angry. Not a good combination.
02:38 <Razzaroo> :/
02:38 <Razzaroo> Sounds like you were in quite a fix
02:38 <Razzaroo> or bad situation
02:39 <Schism> It was, all around, a negative situation. Some people thrive in direct sales, but... I did not.
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02:40 <Razzaroo> Oh
02:40 <Razzaroo> Also xD
02:40 <Razzaroo> Funny coincidence
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02:42 <Razzaroo> For now i would suggest keeping a brave face and finding people you can vent to :)
02:42 <Razzaroo> you have options
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02:42 <Schism> Well, yeah. I'm not dead.
02:43 <Razzaroo> right.
02:50 * Filly_Nightmares kneads Schism
02:50 * Filly_Nightmares wants to buy the GameSir G5 controller for her phone
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02:52 * Filly_Nightmares snugglies into Schism warms.
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02:52 * Schism hugs the Surry. And flops.
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02:54 <Thelema5> Hello everypony
02:54 <Razzaroo> Hi :3
02:54 * Ali snugs on the Thelema5
02:55 * PinkieShy jumps into Thelema5 beard and builds a beard fort.
02:57 <Razzaroo> Hums a tune
02:57 * DashedRainbows licks Thelema5
02:58 <Razzaroo> :)
02:58 * Thelema5 reacts appropriately to all of these things
02:59 <Razzaroo> :p
03:00 <Thelema5> I just made this pretty song my main ringtone
03:00 <Thelema5> !link https://youtu.be/bCNDMxP5iqs
03:00 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.
03:00 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about No One Asked To Dance
03:01 <Thelema5> I like deerhoof a lot, saw them play a live show in a tiny, tiny club in Vermont last year- it was epic
03:02 <Razzaroo> :3
03:02 <Razzaroo> 🎈
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03:02 <Thelema5> That song isn't really their normal style, though. They're more progressively experimental and rhythm driven
03:03 <Razzaroo> ナイス
03:03 <Thelema5> This is more their style
03:03 <Thelema5> !link https://youtu.be/DwFdP4xtgC8
03:03 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.
03:03 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Deerhoof-The Merry Barracks [OFFICIAL AUDIO]
03:07 <Razzaroo> fluffy clouds to the horizon
03:07 * Filly_Nightmares curls up on Schism's head and nibbles on one ear
03:07 * PinkieShy screams happily
03:08 * Filly_Nightmares eeeeeeeees at PinkieShy
03:08 <Razzaroo> https://m.soundcloud.com/thedarknessmare/derpys-lullaby-filly-version
03:08 <PinkieShy> My PC's not easily changable LEDs are able to go blue!!!! :D
03:08 <PinkieShy> I'm going to so get blue case fans and use blue color instead of red.. blue is so much cooler.
03:08 * Saerydoth cuddles Filly_Nightmares
03:09 * Filly_Nightmares purrrrr
03:09 * Filly_Nightmares would get RGB everything if she cared about lights!
03:09 <Filly_Nightmares> o4o
03:09 <Thelema5> Dangit, Razzaroo... I just managed to get that song out of my head a few weeks ago
03:09 <Razzaroo> Im sorry
03:09 <Thelema5> :p
03:09 <Razzaroo> it calms me down xD
03:09 <Thelema5> No, it's fine, it's adorabru
03:09 <Razzaroo> when i feel anxious
03:09 <Razzaroo> xP
03:09 * Filly_Nightmares only needs RGB keyboard because it's the only thing that won't be covered by her floof
03:10 <Razzaroo> D'aww : 3
03:10 <Thelema5> my keyboard lights blue only, it's a nice color PinkieShy
03:11 <Razzaroo> Hmm
03:11 <Razzaroo> I need more tunes xS
03:12 <Razzaroo> xD
03:12 * Filly_Nightmares has a red themed Asus RoG laptop!
03:12 * Filly_Nightmares is rocking red lights on her mouse and has regular red on her headphones!
03:13 * Saerydoth has a Sager laptop, it has a lit keyboard that can change colors
03:13 * Saerydoth doesn't use the laptop much these days though
03:13 <Razzaroo> hmm Thelema5
03:13 <Razzaroo> what kinda music was the one you linked i liked it
03:14 * Filly_Nightmares floofs up at Saerydoth! Her laptop is the only thing that's powerful in the house!
03:14 * Saerydoth has a laptop with a 6700hq/1060 but it's nowhere near as powerful as the desktop (6700k+1080ti)
03:15 <Thelema5> I don't know what it would be called, the band is pretty unique Razzaroo. Experimental rock, maybe? Their drummer, greg saunier, is regarded by many people as one of the best at his craft.
03:15 * Filly_Nightmares has 4710HQ and GTX 970M and 24 gigs of RAM!
03:15 <Razzaroo> https://youtu.be/6q4Yhaa19Us
03:15 * Filly_Nightmares wants to build a mini ITX desktop wif a Ryzen 2700X and 1170/80.
03:15 <Razzaroo> I like acoustic more tho
03:15 <Razzaroo> *hums this tune*
03:16 * Filly_Nightmares can still run every game she has on max and her laptop's monitor is 100 hz!
03:16 * Filly_Nightmares rumble purrs and snugglies into Schism's head
03:16 * Filly_Nightmares loafs
03:17 * Saerydoth only likes mini ITX for certain things like servers, not for gaming machines
03:17 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Watchmojo Grabs Discord for #3 in Top 10 Stupidly Overpowered Cartoon Characters [ http://tinyurl.com/ydxra2wf ]
03:17 <Saerydoth> for my gaming machine I'm happy having a nearly 3 foot tall 80 pound tower
03:18 * Filly_Nightmares is going to do a college soon and needs smoll
03:18 * Filly_Nightmares probably won't go mini ITX
03:18 * Saerydoth cuddles Filly_Nightmares senseless
03:18 * Filly_Nightmares knead kneads kneads Saerydoth! She wants Saerydoth halp wif building compuper!
03:18 <Razzaroo> and i know its true that visons are seldom all they seem
03:19 * Saerydoth can help
03:19 * Filly_Nightmares wonders if Saerydoth can do a PCPartPicker halp
03:20 <Thelema5> I used to play acoustic guitar a litle, Razzaroo. Not like that, I only just started learning
03:20 <Razzaroo> Its so beautiful :3
03:20 <Razzaroo> *squees*
03:20 * Saerydoth hasn't used pcpartpicker but can probably figure it out
03:20 <Razzaroo> I want music like that when i get married lol
03:20 <Razzaroo> forget about piano
03:20 <Razzaroo> not that i hate it
03:20 <Thelema5> !link https://youtu.be/YdNUZVMRbYQ
03:21 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Apples to the Core Acoustic Cover
03:21 <Thelema5> ^ me learning guitar
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03:21 <Razzaroo> :D i gotta see ok!
03:21 * Filly_Nightmares wants a Ryzen 2700X and 16 gigs of 3200 megahertz RAM!
03:21 * Filly_Nightmares pur
03:22 * Saerydoth usually uses newegg/amazon for all computer stuff
03:22 <Filly_Nightmares> o4o
03:22 * Filly_Nightmares floofs up because you can add parts to the list and it supports Amazon and Newegg pricing!
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03:25 <Thelema5> Newegg is goodpone
03:25 <Thelema5> XD
03:25 <Razzaroo> Thelema5 :D
03:25 <Razzaroo> I liked your cover
03:25 <Razzaroo> and possibly another one *twirls fingers*
03:25 <Razzaroo> xD
03:26 <Thelema5> XD
03:26 <Thelema5> My BBBFF cover?
03:26 <Razzaroo> I couldn't help but wonder
03:26 <Razzaroo> is that your voice!
03:26 <Thelema5> Yeah
03:26 * Saerydoth actually knows very little about AMD motherboards these days, hasn't used one in years so doesn't know what manufacturers are good anymore
03:26 * Saerydoth is partial to asrock but doesn't know if they make AMD ones
03:26 <Razzaroo> ok :D cool
03:26 <Razzaroo> just wondering :p
03:27 <Thelema5> It's fine, that's just my personal "whatever" channel, my curated channel is a hiking and exploration channel where I go and explore stuff
03:27 <Saerydoth> and just because their Intel motherboards are good doesn't mean their AMD ones will be
03:27 <Saerydoth> they have good ratings
03:27 * Filly_Nightmares floofs up. Thinks that they will have good AMD boards since AMD is making a huge comeback wif Ryzen!
03:27 <Saerydoth> yeah it seems they do
03:27 <Saerydoth> their AMD boards have good ratings on Newegg
03:28 <Razzaroo> sounds coolio :p
03:28 * Filly_Nightmares is doing a werk and can't help. :<
03:28 <Saerydoth> Ryzen still isn't quite up there with Intel, the fastest Intels are about 10% faster, but they also cost more
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03:28 <Saerydoth> it's not like the FX series though, where the 9590 was less than 40% of the performance of the 6700k
03:28 <Saerydoth> they're at least in the same ballpark
03:28 * Filly_Nightmares doesn't want a giant compuper either since she needs to move it around places and the college dorm doesn't have a lot of space
03:28 <Saerydoth> FX wasn't in the ballpark
03:28 <Saerydoth> it was 5 miles down the road in a ditch
03:28 <Filly_Nightmares> o5o
03:28 * Saerydoth nods
03:29 * Filly_Nightmares still thinks that AMD is better value in th eCPU department!
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03:30 <Saerydoth> yeah with Ryzen you can get a bit more performance for the money
03:30 <Saerydoth> you can get more performance with Intel but it costs more
03:31 * Filly_Nightmares can OC too wif the 2700X and it comes wif a Wraith RGB cooler!
03:31 * Saerydoth doens't like air coolers, big air coolers are a pain and block RAM slots
03:31 <Filly_Nightmares> o5o
03:32 * Saerydoth looks up what cooler he has been using
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03:33 * Saerydoth can't find it, may have gotten it locally
03:33 <Saerydoth> I don't remember o_o
03:33 * Filly_Nightmares floofs up! Wonder if the Wraith cooler is compatible and gud!
03:34 <Saerydoth> yeah but they are air
03:34 <Saerydoth> air coolers are also MUCH less effective in smaller builds than they are in huge cases like mine
03:34 * Filly_Nightmares wonders how much liquid cooling would cost
03:34 <Filly_Nightmares> o6o
03:35 <Saerydoth> not much more
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03:35 <Saerydoth> ah this is the one I'm using
03:35 <Saerydoth> https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-CW-9060007-WW-Performance-Liquid-Cooler/dp/B00A0HZMGA
03:37 * Filly_Nightmares wonders if she should get the 2018 version
03:37 * Saerydoth was looking at that
03:37 <Saerydoth> I got mine in 2016
03:38 <Saerydoth> I'd say yes, newer and same price
03:38 <Saerydoth> probably not much difference, but if there is the new one is probably better
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03:38 <Saerydoth> it basically just replaces the back case fan
03:38 <Saerydoth> and there is no danger of blocking RAM slots with a huge cooler
03:41 <Filly_Nightmares> o7o
03:41 * Filly_Nightmares has had trouble picking everything that isn't the CPU and GPU
03:41 * Schism pickles everything else.
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03:41 * Filly_Nightmares noms Schism!
03:42 <Razzaroo> bloop
03:42 * Schism distracts Filly_Nightmares with some chocolate fudge brownie ice cream.
03:42 * Filly_Nightmares pushes her entire face into the ice cream and murrrrr
03:42 * Thelema5 adds some habanero to Schism's pickles
03:42 <Razzaroo> xD
03:44 <Razzaroo> 🎁
03:44 <Razzaroo> *razzaroo gives anypony a present*
03:46 * Schism giggles at the description of the Philosopher's Scone. "He was so close."
03:47 <Thelema5> Razzaroo, did you know that Rebecca Sugar records herself singing and playing ukulele for the songs she writes for SU to give direction to the production musicians on the show? She also releases them online with storyboards
03:47 <Thelema5> !link https://youtu.be/Er3wrR3dyD8
03:47 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.
03:47 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about It's Over, Isn't It - Storyboard | Steven Universe | \"Mr. Greg\" By: Rebecca Sugar
03:47 <Razzaroo> Cool
03:47 <Razzaroo> all i do is draw
03:48 <Razzaroo> Other than drawling and storys i dont have much talent
03:48 <Razzaroo> but even then i dont think im all that good
03:48 * DashedRainbows stretches
03:48 <Razzaroo> Rebecca sugars art is great though
03:50 <Razzaroo> I liked her work on adventure time tok
03:50 <Razzaroo> too she saved the show
03:50 <Razzaroo> xD
03:50 <Thelema5> Razzaroo, you can draw? That's awesome. I can't draw at all. This is me trying to draw a pony
03:50 <Thelema5> https://imgur.com/3QfF1J2
03:50 <Thelema5> It's like something a 3 year old would do
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03:52 * Thelema5 hugs DashedRainbows randomly
03:52 <DashedRainbows> yay!
03:53 <Razzaroo> content://media/external/file/193281
03:54 <Razzaroo> Idk xP
03:56 <Thelema5> Hrm, I just now noticed that someone posted 100 free vinyl records on one of my facebook buy and sell groups on Sunday
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03:56 <Thelema5> There's like zero chance they're still available. I still messaged the guy though
03:57 <Thelema5> I would be so super excited to get those, I love find old vinyl and my boss is away tomorrow so I could totally slip away from work to pick them up
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03:57 <DashedRainbows> what you been up to, Thelema5?
03:57 <Razzaroo> I cant link my stuff xp oh welp
04:00 <Thelema5> DashedRainbows, just working mostly. Still having problems with my knee so not too much. Went to see a They Might Be Giants show, it was a long and terrifying trip to get there
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04:00 <Thelema5> The building it was in was a non-newtonian cyclopean horror, though
04:00 * Filly_Nightmares nyoms Saerydoth wif ice cream
04:01 <DashedRainbows> hmm, sounds fun :(
04:01 <Thelema5> This was where it was http://www.theegg.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/egg3.jpg
04:02 <DashedRainbows> if it cheers you up I'm having a painful procedure next thursday
04:02 <Thelema5> I have Megalophobia so going up inside that monster was hard
04:02 <Thelema5> That does NOT cheer me up, that is hard to hear! Pain is not good... what are they doing to you?
04:03 <DashedRainbows> eh, it's somewhat good
04:03 <Thelema5> Are you getting a new kidney????
04:03 <DashedRainbows> it'll be another step closer to transplant
04:03 <Thelema5> Oooh.
04:04 <Thelema5> What do they do?
04:05 <DashedRainbows> I've dreaded getting a vcug done after last time
04:06 <DashedRainbows> basically urinary catheter and stuff it with liquid
04:06 <Thelema5> Ouch!
04:07 <Thelema5> You're going to be okay.
04:07 <Thelema5> It'll be over before you know it.
04:07 <DashedRainbows> yeah..
04:07 <DashedRainbows> thanks to the magic of drugs!
04:07 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by ExplodingPonyToast: Music: Moon Flame - Wandering [Acoustic Pop] [ http://tinyurl.com/y7mjqshc ]
04:08 <Thelema5> Yay drugs!
04:09 <DashedRainbows> drugs are bad kids ;)
04:10 <Thelema5> Hmmkay
04:12 <RazorSharpFang> Prescribed drugs are good. Over-the-counter drugs are good as long as you follow the directions and use it appropriately.
04:12 <DashedRainbows> exactly
04:13 <Thelema5> Hmm... so I work remotely and my boss is going away for the rest of the week... his instruction to me was "just do whatever". Really? I need to submit a list of accomplishments every day... and now I have NO direction or goals to work from
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04:13 <Thelema5> I honestly don't know how to respond to that
04:13 <DashedRainbows> hmm
04:13 <DashedRainbows> ah, work
04:14 * Filly_Nightmares prods Saerydoth
04:14 * DashedRainbows is totally not a bum :'(
04:15 <Thelema5> Dude, go easy on yourself. I wouldn't be able to function on the most basic level with your limitations. You're totally a rockstar in my heart.
04:15 <Thelema5> Really.
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04:16 * Filly_Nightmares grooms DashedRainbows
04:17 <Thelema5> Holy crap, I suddenly feel really old- I just looked up new performances from bands I loved in my early 20s... they are so OLD.
04:17 <DashedRainbows> thanks, man
04:17 * DashedRainbows is a pretty pony
04:17 * Thelema5 hugs DashedRainbows
04:18 * Filly_Nightmares squishes
04:18 * DashedRainbows will keep saying that till it's true
04:18 <DashedRainbows> not that
04:18 <DashedRainbows> I mind too much
04:18 <Thelema5> :p
04:19 <DashedRainbows> as spongebob said, "I'm ugly and I'm proud!"
04:19 * Filly_Nightmares berp
04:20 <DashedRainbows> but you aren't that old Thelema5
04:21 <DashedRainbows> mid 40s iirc
04:22 <Thelema5> Early 40's, yeah, 43
04:22 <Thelema5> But the bands I loved in my 20s are now doing NPR and PBS fundraisers
04:22 <Thelema5> hurts man
04:22 <Thelema5> XD
04:23 <DashedRainbows> ... that's not that bad
04:23 <Thelema5> :p
04:24 <DashedRainbows> that's a decent watch when there is no cable
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04:26 <Thelema5> Hmm... my estranged father just shared a link about wild mushrooms on my facebook profile because he knows I forage...
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04:26 <Thelema5> We speak like... once a year
04:26 <Thelema5> I guess that means he's trying to establish a relationship?
04:27 <DashedRainbows> That's good. Yeah
04:28 <Thelema5> I don't even know how to respond. I've lost so many older people this year
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04:30 <Thelema5> I'd like to have a better relationship, I think, but he's a super conservative christian evangelical NRA supporter homophobe
04:30 <Thelema5> I'm just not there
04:31 <Thelema5> And its sad to think about, but he'll probably be dead in the next 10 years....
04:32 * Filly_Nightmares snugglies Thelema5
04:32 * Filly_Nightmares poke Saerydoth
04:33 <DashedRainbows> Yeah we conservative Christian types are difficult...
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04:34 <Thelema5> 3
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04:39 * Saerydoth yeeps
04:39 * Saerydoth was in the shower
04:39 * Saerydoth glomps Filly_Nightmares
04:39 * Filly_Nightmares eee
04:40 * Filly_Nightmares pur
04:40 <Saerydoth> "christian conservative" type people have no place in my life, family or not
04:42 * Filly_Nightmares wonders if Saerydoth did the PCPartPicker or if she should do it. o6o
04:44 * Saerydoth started, but still isn't sure what to pick for motherboard
04:45 <Filly_Nightmares> o7o
04:45 <Saerydoth> problem is, I'm not familiar with AM4 chipsets, at all o.o
04:46 * Saerydoth does a little looking
04:47 <Saerydoth> what the hell happened to RAM prices? It's double what it was when I got mine...
04:47 <RazorSharpFang> Probably the miners having fun again
04:48 * Saerydoth is going to leave the case out, since you probably wouldn't like the cases he would pick :P
04:49 <Saerydoth> and 1080's are more than I paid for my 1080ti
04:49 <DashedRainbows> You never know Thelema5 people can surprise you
04:52 * Saerydoth is done, how do you link this?
04:53 <Saerydoth> oh neverind, found it
04:53 <Saerydoth> https://pcpartpicker.com/list/B4cxcY
04:53 <Filly_Nightmares> o6o
04:53 * Filly_Nightmares nestles on Saerydoth
04:54 * Saerydoth hugs and cuddles
04:54 * Filly_Nightmares is going to get the 11 series instead of 10 since 10 is end of life
04:54 <Saerydoth> actually, everything but the CPU, GPU, and motherboard is the same as mine
04:54 <Saerydoth> 11 series?
04:54 <Saerydoth> oh GPU?
04:54 * Filly_Nightmares nibbles on Saerydoth! Yis!
04:54 * Saerydoth didn't know the 1100 series was out yet
04:54 <Saerydoth> haven't even heard it mentioned
04:55 <Saerydoth> it's "rumored" for Q4
04:55 <Saerydoth> Nvidia hasn't announced anything
04:55 <Saerydoth> so it's not coming soon
04:56 <Filly_Nightmares> o6o
04:56 <Saerydoth> feel free to swap out GPU then
04:56 * Saerydoth is really partial to EVGA
04:56 <Saerydoth> noone else even comes close for Nvidia cards
04:56 * Filly_Nightmares doesn't want 10 series because it's 2 years old and prices are still inflated from miners.
04:56 * Saerydoth just picked a 1080
04:56 * Saerydoth nods
04:56 <Saerydoth> do you have something to use until the 1100's come out?
04:56 * Filly_Nightmares has her 970M laptop! But is family compuper
04:56 <Saerydoth> I got my 1080ti before the mining craze started
04:57 <Saerydoth> so I paid like...$700 for it
04:57 * Filly_Nightmares noms Saerydoth because it is a Ti! She wants a 70 or 80!
04:57 <Filly_Nightmares> o5o
04:57 <Saerydoth> you'll need to get something to start out with unless you plan on waiting until the 1100's come out
04:57 <Saerydoth> which could be awhile
04:57 <Saerydoth> and really expensive when they do
04:57 * Saerydoth wouldn't expect them to be affordable until next year
04:58 * Filly_Nightmares nibbles
04:58 * Saerydoth nibbles back :P
04:59 * Filly_Nightmares meows
04:59 <Saerydoth> ^_^
05:00 * Filly_Nightmares doesn't need an SSD since she has a 480 gig one!
05:00 <Filly_Nightmares> o4o
05:01 <Saerydoth> oh ok
05:01 * Filly_Nightmares edited it out!
05:01 <Filly_Nightmares> o4o
05:01 * Saerydoth nuzzles
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05:04 * Filly_Nightmares kneads Saerydoth
05:06 * Saerydoth clings to Filly_Nightmares
05:07 * Filly_Nightmares is going to use her compuper for video editing and other stuffz! Needs a good monitor for gaming and color production! She wants a VA panel!
05:07 * Starwatcher nose-nudges Filly_Nightmares
05:08 <Starwatcher> hia
05:08 * Filly_Nightmares would've gotten IPS but IPS is expensive at high refresh rates
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05:08 * Saerydoth won't touch TN monitors anymore
05:08 <Saerydoth> they're awful
05:08 * Saerydoth actually hasn't looked into VA
05:09 * Filly_Nightmares wonders what kind of monitor Saerydoth has!
05:10 <Saerydoth> Samsung IPS of course ;P
05:10 <Saerydoth> well it's not called IPS, it's called whatever Samsung calls IPS (they have their own name for it)
05:10 <Filly_Nightmares> Wat's da refresh rate? o6o
05:11 <Saerydoth> Super PLS
05:11 <Saerydoth> 60
05:11 * Saerydoth would like to get a higher refresh monitor at some point but this is finef or now
05:11 * Filly_Nightmares wants accurate color production and high refresh rates for her games
05:12 * Filly_Nightmares has a secondary 1600x900 TN monitor for Discord and IRC!
05:12 <Saerydoth> TN gives me a headache
05:12 * Saerydoth would rather just have 60Hz than deal with anything other than IPS
05:15 <RazorSharpFang> VSync?
05:15 * Saerydoth hmms, Steam crashing issue may have been fixed
05:15 * Filly_Nightmares eees
05:15 <Saerydoth> what about vsync?
05:15 * Filly_Nightmares hates vsync because extreme latency wif button presses
05:15 <Saerydoth> it's pretty much something that I always have on, although I use adaptive vsync when available
05:16 * Filly_Nightmares likes adapative sync
05:16 <Filly_Nightmares> p5p5p5
05:16 <Saerydoth> I've never noticed any latency
05:16 <Filly_Nightmares> o5o
05:16 <Saerydoth> at all
05:16 <Saerydoth> theoretically with triple buffering there should never be any latency
05:17 <Schism> Snow.
05:17 * Filly_Nightmares doesn't have any sync enabled apparently. o5o
05:17 * Filly_Nightmares doesn't get screen tear anyways
05:18 * Filly_Nightmares kneads Schism
05:18 <Saerydoth> I can't play with vsync off, in any game
05:18 <Saerydoth> if vsync ever gets turned off, I get hideous screen tearing
05:18 * Filly_Nightmares doesn't get screen tearing for some reason so is fine
05:18 <Saerydoth> maybe because my GPU can go way over 60hz with ease
05:18 <RazorSharpFang> I think you don't notice if the FPS is high enough.
05:19 <Saerydoth> well, the fps has to exceed your monitor's refresh rate to get tearing
05:19 <Saerydoth> I Only have a 60hz monitor
05:19 * Filly_Nightmares goes over 100 hertz wif most of her games and doesn't get screen tearing.
05:19 <Saerydoth> if you have a 144hz monitor screen tearing is really unlikely
05:19 * Filly_Nightmares overclocked her monitor to 100 hertz
05:19 <Saerydoth> because you would have to exceed 144fps in games and even the 1080ti can't usually do that in modern games unless you lower settings
05:19 * Filly_Nightmares only gets screen tear wif vsync enabled
05:20 <Saerydoth> there is always gsync if your monitor supports it too
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05:20 * Filly_Nightmares doesn't have gsync!
05:20 <Filly_Nightmares> o4o
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05:23 <RazorSharpFang> First there was vsync. Then, there was avsync. Now, there's gsync. How many letters will there be?
05:25 <Filly_Nightmares> Free sync!
05:25 <Filly_Nightmares> o5o
05:25 <Filly_Nightmares> AMD's thing!
05:27 * Schism blink! And provides Filly_Nightmares wif some earl grey tea. Because it's snowing outside.
05:27 <RazorSharpFang> How dare it be snowing.
05:27 <Saerydoth> spring finally arrived here
05:27 <Saerydoth> almost a month and a half late
05:27 <Saerydoth> global warming screwed the gulf stream, so the temperature of north america is going to drop pretty dramatically
05:28 <Saerydoth> the gulf stream kept this part of the world much warmer than it should've been for its latitude
05:28 <RazorSharpFang> So... we need to create our own stream is what you're saying? Create an artificial current that modulates the warm and cold?
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05:29 <Saerydoth> I don't think we can generate that much controlled power
05:30 <RazorSharpFang> Well, we don't have to power it. The different air types will want to mix naturally to even out the temperature differentials. We just need to provide a means.
05:30 <Saerydoth> the means would mean reversing the warming trned
05:30 <Saerydoth> *trend
05:31 <RazorSharpFang> But then we'd have to actually fix a problem, and that's a lot of effort. I'd rather theory-craft a ridiculous hypothetical that's infeasible.
05:32 <Saerydoth> it's actually easy, move hte planet further from the sun
05:32 <Saerydoth> all the robots just have to put their butts in the air
05:33 <RazorSharpFang> That's an even more ridiculous hypothetical.
05:33 <Saerydoth> it worked in Futurama
05:33 <RazorSharpFang> Solid reasoning.
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05:36 * Filly_Nightmares keeps Schism safe from snow!
05:37 <Finwe> o3o
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05:37 <Finwe> Good morning, my perissodactyls of limited spatial dimensions.
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05:40 * Filly_Nightmares kneads Finwe
05:42 * Finwe noms on Filly_Nightmares's tail.
05:46 <Finwe> Lt The_Nostalgia_Mare.
05:46 <Finwe> o7
05:47 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> Radm. Fie. (Salutes)
05:47 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> *finwe.
05:50 <Finwe> The_Nostalgia_Mare: Fie on you! :)
05:51 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> o3o
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06:03 <Fn> It just dawned on me: if I will buy a hall-effect mechanical keyboard (or rather a DIY set), then I can use the keys as pedals in a racing game
06:03 <Fn> I just need some hardier springs in arrow keys so that I would not bottom out the keys too easily
06:04 <Fn> Curiously enough: hall effect mechanical keyboards are nothing new
06:04 <Fn> They existed in the very first soviet "elektronika" keyboards
06:05 <Fn> And basically every other military keyboard
06:05 * Finwe noms on Fn's keyboard.
06:05 <Fn> Because they last forever (no physical contact in the key makes it last)
06:06 <Finwe> True.
06:06 <RazorSharpFang> Mind you, aren't they more expensive?
06:08 <Fn> Yes
06:08 <Finwe> Sometimes it pays off to invest a bit more in quality.
06:08 <Fn> Also bulkier, sine hall switches are rather big themselves
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06:08 <RazorSharpFang> As long as you don't spill petrol on it and then accidentally set it on fire.
06:09 <Fn> You can do that with an alumin(i)um one that is installed in a nuclear facility
06:10 <Fn> It's liquid-sealed, heat-resistant and protected against chemical erosion too
06:10 <Finwe> o3o!
06:10 <Fn> But that one has hall-effect along with the leaf-contact linear switch as well
06:10 <Fn> Because redundancy
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06:14 <Razzaroo> why xD
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06:15 <Finwe> Is a Razzaroo a cross-breed of a RazorSharpFang and a kangaroo?
06:29 <Fn> Damn... you can't use the standard keyboard chip with hall-effect switches
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07:07 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: <unspecified> [ http://tinyurl.com/ycrkgxdb ]
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07:30 * Finwe hats on Schism.
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08:03 * Schism provides Finwe a cup of black coffee with honey.
08:05 <Finwe> Coffee. D:
08:05 <Finwe> I'd rather have a cup of black tea with honey.
08:05 <Finwe> Although tea is best served with milk.
08:05 <Finwe> o3o
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08:08 <ConfusionRift> Hello everypony.
08:11 <Finwe> Lt Cdr ConfusionRift.
08:11 <Finwe> o7
08:12 <RazorSharpFang> Hey ConfusionRift
08:12 <RazorSharpFang> I managed to get train signals on my tracks, so I now have 3 locomotives running at all times.
08:12 * Ali manuals ALL THE TRAINS!!!!
08:16 <ConfusionRift> Yeah, I bet it's getting a tad crazy.
08:18 <RazorSharpFang> It's really good actually. I hitch a ride all the time.
08:24 <Finwe> Miss Ali.
08:24 * Ali doffs over Finwe
08:24 * Finwe doffs his hat and devours a couple of Ali's trains.
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08:33 <Finwe> Mr Fall.
08:33 * Finwe doffs his hat.
08:33 <Fall> That's MR. Fall to you
08:34 <Fall> Wait
08:34 <Fall> Okay
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08:34 * Sleeping_Nightmares curls up on Fall and uses Ali as a blanket
08:34 <Sleeping_Nightmares> Nini
08:35 <Finwe> o3o
08:37 <Fall> See yah
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08:39 * Ali glomps Fall
08:39 * Finwe flomps gall.
08:40 * Fall glomps Ali, room explodes
08:42 * Finwe ducks the blast.
08:42 * Fall 's blast is reduced to merely a loud repetitive quacking
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08:46 <Finwe> Fall: I hope for your sake that the joke was invented by someone else.
08:47 <Fall> Hey you're the one that just solved explosions for ever
08:53 <ConfusionRift> Hmm, apparently AVGN went to a convention and started playing Super C live, and then the cart went haywire and many assets (especially bosses) have gone invisible.
08:55 <Schism> That sounds like the opening to a creepypasta.
08:56 <ConfusionRift> Most glitched games tend to belong in a creeppasta of sorts. :P
08:56 <ConfusionRift> *creepypasta
09:01 <ConfusionRift> Was gonna come up with something on the fly, but most things just sound dumb.
09:02 <Ali> Good old Super C
09:22 <RazorSharpFang> I made a microwave cake today
09:22 <ConfusionRift> Cake in a cup?
09:24 <RazorSharpFang> Well, it was a take-out container.
09:27 <Cepheid> Morning.
09:28 <ConfusionRift> G'Mornin'!
09:28 <Cepheid> How goes it?
09:30 <RazorSharpFang> Hey Cepheid. I got 4 trains on my track now, with stops. All working perfectly.
09:30 <Cepheid> Nice.
09:30 <RazorSharpFang> Works just like you said it would.
09:32 <RazorSharpFang> My base now has 156 steam engines. Somehow I'm MORE dependent on steam, not less.
09:32 <Cepheid> The trick now is figuring out how to expand things to handle even more trains, especially the stations. Players like to set up stations that can handle upwards of 5-6 trains or more.
09:32 <RazorSharpFang> The whole game is a logistics puzzle that changes.
09:33 <Cepheid> A trick for that is that when you give all the Train Stations the same name, the game will pick any one of the stations to send the train to.
09:33 <RazorSharpFang> Like randomly?
09:34 <Cepheid> I'm not entirely sure if it's randomly.
09:35 <Cepheid> It does however, allow you to use a chain signal at a branching entrance to all N stations, with each station's entrance having a regular signal, to ensure that if one station is currently in use, the game will pick one of the other N stations.
09:35 <Cepheid> Also, Schism, RazorSharpFang. I drafted you into my restarted game of Etrian Odyssey 5.
09:35 <Schism> Alrighty then.
09:35 <RazorSharpFang> Can't say I know what that is.
09:35 <Cepheid> Schism, you're a Brouni Botanist, you heal and poison stuff. Don't quite know how poisoning fits into the healing job.
09:36 <Cepheid> Razor, you're a masurao. Basically some sort of samurai with a katana. You cut things into small bits.
09:36 <RazorSharpFang> With Style hopefully. No point being a samurai without style.
09:37 <ConfusionRift> And then, you cut those bits into smaller bits. We can call it molecule cutting. :P
09:37 <Cepheid> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/18xIkDH04TctVjAopumDBqWDVsvI6xpOAS2os8zMOT4A/edit?usp=sharing Here's all the classes, races and skills. Razor's specifically a Therian Masurao. Schism's a Brouni Botanist.
09:38 <Cepheid> I got a little bored and made a spreadsheet for character creation in the event anyone wants to be added to the roster of 30 characters.
09:39 <RazorSharpFang> My consumption of crude oil is significantly higher than my production of crude oil. Hmmm.
09:40 * Schism takes a break from crafting a terrible amount of wolfram, to take a look.
09:40 <Cepheid> RazorSharpFang: As for the game, it's basically a dungeon crawler. Our task is to climbe an absolutely massive tree, carving our way through an army of murderous monsters along the way.
09:40 <RazorSharpFang> 34K consumption, 29K production... I thinks I need to place more pumpjacks.
09:40 <Cepheid> RazorSharpFang: That or use coal liquifaction.
09:40 <RazorSharpFang> Eh, Coal's plastic-making.
09:41 <Cepheid> Since we have multiple large coal patches in our base, we decided on using coal liquifaction to increase the output of the northern oil field for making more plastic.
09:42 <Cepheid> We're going through coal like no tomorrow as a result. But we got plenty of petroleum gas, now.
09:42 <Cepheid> And eventually it'll back up and the coal usage will slow.
09:42 <RazorSharpFang> My current problem is that my steel production isn't nearly as high as my demand.
09:43 <RazorSharpFang> I have a third of my produced iron being turned into steel and that's not enough.
09:43 <Cepheid> Heh.
09:43 <Cepheid> I have 100 furnaces making steel.
09:44 <RazorSharpFang> Electric, presumably.
09:44 <Cepheid> Yes.
09:44 <Cepheid> I like to go a little overboard once things get moving.
09:44 <Finwe> o3o
09:44 <RazorSharpFang> I'm wondering if I should mass-produce furnaces and chuck efficiency modules on all of them to not spike power usage too much.
09:45 <RazorSharpFang> Hmm, for some reason my consumption of solid fuel is inversely correlated to my solar panel's power production. Wonder why.
09:45 <Cepheid> It produces less pollution to do so, arguably.
09:46 <Cepheid> Since you're relying on steam, I can't say it'll reduce pollution considerably, because boilers pollute like no tomorrow.
09:46 <RazorSharpFang> That sounds like you should have put either another "not" or taken one out.
09:46 <Cepheid> But you will need to mass-produce furnaces anyways, so there's no harm in doing so.
09:47 <Cepheid> It sounded like you were relying on steam when you said you used 156 steam engines.
09:47 <RazorSharpFang> Yes. That is correct. You said "I can't say it'll reduce pollution... because boilers pollute..."
09:47 <Cepheid> Yes.
09:47 <Cepheid> Ah, I see the mistake.
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09:48 <ConfusionRift> Friggin' Amazon. (thuds)
09:48 <RazorSharpFang> For a minute there, I thought I was misreading it also.
09:48 <Cepheid> If you use electric furnaces, your power drain goes up, causing the boilers to work harder. As a result they pollute more.
09:48 <Cepheid> However, if you use regular furnaces or steel furnaces, the boilers won't work as hard, but the furnaces will pollute instead.
09:49 <RazorSharpFang> I think it's still less than stone furnaces, right?
09:49 <RazorSharpFang> (Especially since during the day solar panels work great)
09:49 <Cepheid> Oh, you're using solar?
09:49 <RazorSharpFang> I'm dual-weilding both.
09:49 <RazorSharpFang> I don't have enough solar panels and accumulators to have 100% power uptime.
09:49 <Cepheid> Then yeah, it'll pollute less to use electric furnaces with efficiency modules.
09:50 <Cepheid> Meanwhile the server base is pretty much reliant entirely on solar and accumulators now.
09:51 <RazorSharpFang> I have to have so many turrets, 'cos rampant.
09:51 <Cepheid> Mmhmm.
09:51 <Cepheid> Laser or regular?
09:51 <RazorSharpFang> Almost all laser.
09:52 <Cepheid> Usually when I design solar, I go so overboard I can handle several hundred laser turrets, if not over a thousand.
09:52 <RazorSharpFang> I already have 500 turrets.
09:52 <Cepheid> They all cause a miniscule drain on the network, sure, but it's not impossible to run them on solar and accumulators.
09:53 <Cepheid> The issue with accumulators and solar is entirely finding the place to put them all, and then building them. You'll want a large region, and bots.
09:53 <RazorSharpFang> It's not miniscule, it stacks up. They almost consume as much as my electric furnaces.
09:53 <Cepheid> Fortunately, I tend to go slightly crazy with claiming land when I play.
09:54 <Cepheid> I think our claimed area is something like 20 chunks across, 10 chunks down in size.
09:54 <RazorSharpFang> I'm having only moderate success with claiming land. Have to claw it back tooth and nail.
09:54 <Cepheid> Entirely walled off, with turrets lining it.
09:54 <Cepheid> Yeah, Rampant makes you fight hard for it.
09:55 <RazorSharpFang> Anyway, brb, dinner. (30m)
09:55 <Cepheid> Schism: Of note about the spreadsheet, it's not difficult to change the class around if desired. After completing the initial mission, you gain the ability to do class changing. So any race can then become any class for the cost of 5 levels.
09:56 <Cepheid> Meaning if you'd prefer to be another race instead of a small, short, stumpy dwarf-like thing, I can create a new character, get them to level 6, then switch them over to Botanist.
09:56 <Schism> Ahh, makes sense. No, that's fine.
09:57 <Cepheid> The basic story explanation behind it is "This city is a neutral ground for all the races of the land. They all agreed that they'd teach each other how to be X, Y or Z class. Racial skills are still restricted though."
09:58 <Cepheid> As for the master classes, I'll add them at a later date. I need to get that far in the first place, and I can't view said classes unless I have them unlocked.
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10:07 <Cepheid> https://i.imgur.com/kvkjwaP.jpg
10:14 <RazorSharpFang> All the angles in heaven, eh?
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10:15 <Finwe> RazorSharpFang: All the solid angles, you mean?
10:15 <Schism> 600k in gold, 1 million in wolfram, and however-much other crap I've got in my retainers... yeeesh.
10:17 <Cepheid> Plan for the day... exercise after I drink this coffee. Then spend the rest of the day gaming.
10:18 <Cepheid> While trying to stay awake.
10:19 * Schism decides to take a nap. He'd not bother, except that he was bottom-lined.
10:20 <Cepheid> bottom-lined?
10:21 <Schism> It turns out that I'm very personable, very friendly, people like me, and I absolutely suck at sales.
10:21 <RazorSharpFang> F
10:21 <Cepheid> Bleh.
10:22 <Schism> So. It's fine, in the end: the boss was the most type-A person I've ever met in my life, and he demanded that every other aspect of life be put aside in favour of the job.
10:22 <Schism> Some folks can thrive under those circumstances.
10:22 <RazorSharpFang> I guess that's not you tho.
10:23 <Cepheid> Pretty sure demanding such a thing is against the law.
10:23 <Schism> Oh, not in this regard. Independent contractors have a lot of leeway there.
10:24 <Schism> And he didn't do so in so many words. Just... you know. "If you're at home, you shouldn't be having fun, you should be working."
10:24 <Finwe> o3o
10:24 * Finwe patpathugs Schism.
10:24 <Cepheid> No, I'm pretty sure encouraging or forcing that kind of behaviour is illegal.
10:25 <Cepheid> Employees are supposed to get a certain amount of time off between shifts. In other words, you're not supposed to be working when you're not on your shift.
10:26 <RazorSharpFang> 44 objects destroyed. OH BOY. :)
10:27 <Schism> Cepheid: No, honestly. It wasn't even shifts, per se. Straight commission, not hourly wage.
10:27 <Finwe> $x for carrying out task z?
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10:28 <Schism> It's not like he was taking me for a ride or anything. He only made money when I did. Hence, bottom line.
10:28 * ConfusionRift nods. "If you decide to miss your breaks, you can legally do so. But any manager/supervisor CANNOT take away your breaks. And lunches are non-working hours."
10:28 <Schism> You're assuming a salaried or hourly position. This was neither.
10:28 <ConfusionRift> Still.
10:28 <Cepheid> Yeah, but yer not supposed to be working 24/7 or 12+ hour periods a day 7 days a week.
10:28 <ConfusionRift> Oh wait, on commissions...
10:28 <Cepheid> There's limits in how much work you can legally do.
10:28 <Finwe> If you are under contract to finish some project, then you finish it in the time you agreed or face the consequences.
10:29 <Schism> Contractual basis, yes.
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10:29 <Cepheid> And if the employer encourages breaking those limits, or even forces it, it's breaking the law.
10:29 <Finwe> Cepheid: I guess that there is no employer in this case.
10:29 <Schism> Cepheid: It is not, technically, 'work'. It was study. "Read this book, take notes. Listen to this podcast. Eat, sleep, and breathe what I tell you to."
10:30 <Cepheid> Oh fer- ...
10:30 <Schism> And to be entirely fair, we're talking about books like the 7 Habits, or How to Win Friends.
10:31 <Finwe> o3o
10:31 <Finwe> The latter one is easy, participate in a lottery with friends as prize.
10:32 <Schism> The funniest thing is that I was actually the only one who stuck around for that long, aside from the boss and the recruiter.
10:32 <Schism> I wish him the best of luck, but furrfu.
10:33 * ConfusionRift watches someone buy a hard drive from the "under web", and that is just shady.
10:33 <Finwe> Hmmph, it was nice and sunny in the morning; now it is raining like if all the clouds had suddenly condensated.
10:33 <Schism> Finwe: It was snowing here last night.
10:34 <Finwe> :0
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10:34 <Finwe> Well, I have to sit here at the university hospital until 10 p.m. meaning the weather is a small concern for me.
10:35 <Schism> Yee. *nods*
10:36 <Cepheid> Daily Limits of Work: "The maximum number of hours most employees can be required or allowed to work in a day is eight hours or the number of hours an employer has established as the employee's regular work day, if it is longer than eight hours." Yeah, this means your employer can do what they're doing Schism, but there's more following this.
10:37 <Cepheid> Important note: "even if the conditions are met, generally an employee still MUST have 11 hours consecutive free from work in each day(24 hour period)"
10:37 <Schism> Okay, I think I see the disconnect. Technically speaking, I was an independent contractor working with the company, who had a contract in and of themselves with the client.
10:37 <Cepheid> Your job is covered under the ESA.
10:38 <Schism> Also, the 'field hours' were limited to 6 or 7. Those were the hours during which I could be expected to earn money.
10:38 <Cepheid> Yes, but doing stuff at home related to your job is still doing work on the job.
10:38 <Cepheid> You are entitled to be paid for those hours.
10:38 <Cepheid> And if you're not, then you're not supposed to do any work at home related to your job.
10:38 <RazorSharpFang> Might have to actually sue them to see a single cent of them though.
10:38 <Schism> Not an hourly wage, nor a salaried position, which is where the Ontario Labor Board comes in.
10:39 <Cepheid> I just looked, ESA covers you regardless of not an hourly wage or salaried position.
10:39 <Schism> Either way. I'm not going to be burning bridges. The guy's writing me a glowing recommendation, I have references, I'm not going to break that.
10:39 <Schism> I shall take this as a learning experience.
10:39 <Finwe> o3o
10:40 <RazorSharpFang> As long as you actually learn from it, and not just say "I'll learn from this" and then immediately forget everything.
10:40 <Schism> Oh, indeed.
10:40 <RazorSharpFang> Which I'm very good at doing.
10:42 * Cepheid sighs.
10:43 * Finwe patpats Cepheid.
10:43 <Cepheid> Fine, fine, do what you want. Sorry for being a pest, it's just I keep seeing employers abusing employees on a regular basis in this country, and no one bloody friggen does anything about it.
10:43 <Cepheid> It pisses me off.
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10:43 <Cepheid> "Oh, but I'm afraid I'll lose my job!" Yeah, so? What about your mental health and physical wellbeing? Does that not mean anything to you?
10:43 <Schism> No, no. I appreciate it, Cepheid, really I do. I'm no longer in the job, and I think it's definitely for the best.
10:43 <Cepheid> Sorry about that little outburst.
10:44 <Schism> It's fine. I think we're both [w|t]ired right now.
10:44 <Finwe> Have you got some new position in sight already?
10:44 <Schism> No; I'm going to give myself a day or two to vegetate before I hit the pavements again.
10:45 <RazorSharpFang> Vegetate, or grow mold. Whichever happens first.
10:45 <Cepheid> If you grow mold, I'd be a bit concerned about your physical health.
10:45 <Cepheid> And cleanliness.
10:46 <Schism> Just a tad, yes.
10:46 <ConfusionRift> Oh, so that's why they got rid of the HTML editing in myspace.
10:46 <Schism> Yes.
10:46 <RazorSharpFang> Oops, I meant moss.
10:46 <Cepheid> Because it can be used to break formatting among other things.
10:46 <RazorSharpFang> <script>
10:47 <Cepheid> There's that too, yes.
10:47 <Schism> A blog I read... did not sanitize its comments! And the author thereof only found out when various posts started redirecting to nasty, nasty places.
10:48 <RazorSharpFang> A lot of exploits only get known when they get exploited I guess.
10:48 <Fn> It is not easy to find hall effect switches
10:48 <ConfusionRift> Someone left a script on their page that would automatically add them to their friends list. That script changed the script of the affected person's page, and did the same to whomever glanced a user page. So, eventually, this one person have EVERYONE as their friend.
10:49 <Cepheid> That, or Google or some other company reveals it.
10:49 <Fn> Mostly just already-made keyboards with them
10:49 <ConfusionRift> And that too, script exploits.
10:49 <Schism> The question is, of course, who uses MySpace these days?
10:49 <ConfusionRift> 0_0;
10:49 <Schism> (Who uses IRC? >.>)
10:49 <RazorSharpFang> Not me. :P
10:50 <Cepheid> I never used MySpace to begin with.
10:50 <Cepheid> Also many people don't even know what IRC is despite using it. See: Most new people who join this network and channel.
10:50 <Fn> There is a way to use irc chats in Discord
10:50 <Schism> Cepheid: It's been September for almost 25 years now.
10:50 <ConfusionRift> Actually, I closed my account once they got rid of the customizations. I was using that to... practice my HTML skills. :P
10:51 <ConfusionRift> Then, I found out I can just use notepad for that.
10:51 <Cepheid> Yep.
10:52 <RazorSharpFang> Notepad++, or even just do it in the browser.
10:52 <ConfusionRift> Well, nowadays, yeah. You can just edit scripts on the fly.
10:53 <Cepheid> Any text editor, really.
10:53 <Cepheid> You can even use... *Shudders* vi.
10:53 <RazorSharpFang> Hey, nothing wrong with Vi!
10:53 * Cepheid is not a fan of vi/vim, no matter what other people say about it.
10:53 <RazorSharpFang> *grump*
10:54 <Schism> https://xkcd.com/378/
10:54 <Cepheid> Even "cat" is better than vi as a text file creator.
10:54 <RazorSharpFang> As far as CLI editors go, vim is as good as they get, in my opinion.
10:54 <Cepheid> I disagree, but meh.
10:54 <RazorSharpFang> Some people prefer Nano. Weirdoes.
10:55 <Cepheid> I use nano, myself.
10:55 <Cepheid> This is why I generally don't bring up text editors and such. Too many "wars" over what works best.
10:55 <Cepheid> Just use whatever works for you.
10:56 <RazorSharpFang> Also in my estimation, almost every CLI editor is overshadowed by a GUI editor.
10:56 <Finwe> Schism: It's actually Thursday the 9004th of September 1993 today.
10:56 * ConfusionRift shrugs. He just uses regular Notepad, since it's there, and keeps forgetting to install Notepad++.
10:56 <ConfusionRift> If it works, it works.
10:57 <Cepheid> RazorSharpFang: More or less. The primary reason people argue over it is because "WHAT IF YOU LIVE IN A TERMINAL-ONLY ENVIRONMENT!?"
10:57 <Finwe> Which is kind of sad, because it means that I forgot to celebrate September 9000.
10:57 <RazorSharpFang> And here i thought terminal-only environments died in the 80s
10:57 <Cepheid> I'm sorry, but if you live in a place where you can only get an 80x24 terminal, there's a problem.
10:57 <Cepheid> Or you can use a laptop or external machine to SSH into the system and get a larger terminal.
10:58 <Finwe> I can fit an 80x60 terminal on my laptop desktop.
10:58 <ConfusionRift> Heh, all out terminals are dead. That includes the server and firebox.
10:58 <RazorSharpFang> And even then, you can just use FTP to upload whatever files you want.
10:58 <ConfusionRift> Oh yeah, what's up with fireboxes?
10:59 <Cepheid> I don't know how to determine the terminal size on my laptop, but it's definitely larger than 80x24.
10:59 <Cepheid> RazorSharpFang: I'd prefer SCP over FTP these days, but yeah, that's also an alternative for moving files over to the server.
10:59 <Schism> Ah, but the question is - which is better for USENET? 78 characters, or 118?
10:59 <Cepheid> ConfusionRift: FIreboxes?
11:00 <Cepheid> At this point, neither.
11:00 <Finwe> Schism: Silly question, 78 of course.
11:00 <Finwe> The default size of an Emacs window. o3o
11:00 <ConfusionRift> Basically and external firewall, or network Watch Guard terminal.
11:00 <Cepheid> When I was doing dev work for MINIX 3 a while back, the OS didn't support framebuffer devices, so it was limited to 80x24 characters.
11:01 <Cepheid> Made editing source code files hard. So you know what I did?
11:01 <Finwe> Schism: But you should limit your posts to less than that, to allow space for the angular brackets indication quotation.
11:01 <Schism> But of course. 75 characters, then.
11:01 <Cepheid> Initially, I just used SSH to remotely log into the system and edit source files. When that got annoying(Plus slow to rebuild the kernel. 7+ minutes for a single change, because A) The system ran on a VM, and B) Uniprocessor only.), I switched to another approach.
11:02 <Finwe> One does not simply compile large source files on a single-core system.
11:02 <Cepheid> I cloned the source for MINIX 3 onto a PC with a 4k display, did a 9-job cross-compile build, creating a virtual image for qemu, and then edited the source files in an editor of my choice.
11:03 <Cepheid> Productivity increased considerably, and build times reduced to about 1 minute, 30 second per change.
11:05 <ConfusionRift> A firebox changes and then the whole network collapses, especially when used as a router.
11:05 <Cepheid> Also, for anyone wondering how I did on that project, mark-wise, and hasn't seen what I said about it recently.
11:05 <Cepheid> I got 95% on it.
11:06 <ConfusionRift> Huzzah!
11:06 <Cepheid> Probably the highest mark I've ever seen for a "final exam" of any sort.
11:07 <Finwe> Yay!
11:07 * Finwe patpats Cepheid on back.
11:07 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Morning Discussion #1194 [ http://tinyurl.com/ya9jfa6u ]
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11:09 <RazorSharpFang> For some reason, the pumpjack's been at 2.1/s for days now.
11:10 <Fn> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aE4IaXeHRd4
11:10 <Cepheid> There's some wonky math regarding the yield of oil wells.
11:10 <Cepheid> But they'll never go below 2/s
11:10 <Fn> [ Ace Pad Tech Hall effect gaming keyboard review (Ace Pad Tech Hall effect) - Chyrosran22 - YouTube ]
11:10 <RazorSharpFang> Right, but the other one's at 2/s.
11:11 <Fn> His voice
11:11 <Cepheid> Yeah.
11:11 <Cepheid> There's some weird wonky stuff.
11:11 <Cepheid> A well will never drop below 20% of it's initial yield.
11:11 <Cepheid> So if a single well exceeds 100% yield, it will generate a bit more than 2/s at 20%.
11:12 <Cepheid> Probably had 105% yield, that well.
11:13 <RazorSharpFang> Oh, 20% of the initial yield? I thought it was capped at just a flat 20% (2/s)
11:13 <Cepheid> 20% or 20% of initial yield, whichever is higher.
11:14 <RazorSharpFang> That changes the dynamic a tad...
11:14 <Finwe> !plot
11:14 <DerpyBot> *wigglewiggle*
11:14 <Finwe> *wigglewiggle*
11:14 <Cepheid> Schism: So, I sort of had the final stratum of EO5 "spoiled" in a sense.
11:15 <Cepheid> You can import guild cards using QR codes from other players. Guild cards list all achievements you've managed in the game.
11:15 <Cepheid> Which includes a trophy for each stratum reached.
11:16 <Cepheid> Along with a description of what the tropy is for. The sixth stratum, I forget it's name off hand, but it appears to be in OUTER SPACE.
11:18 <Cepheid> It's called the Empyreal Bridge. It's icon is that of swirling dark paths in space with stars.
11:19 <ConfusionRift> Sleep time. Laters.
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11:22 <Cepheid> Tutelary Forest... *Looks up meaning of Tutelary.* ... Why not just call it the Guardian Forest?
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11:24 <Schism> Well, the forest might be protecting aspects of the dungeon, or protecting others from aspects thereof -- it's hard to say.
11:24 <Schism> 'Guardian' forest might imply a benign mannerism which might not be there.
11:24 <Cepheid> Officially, according to the storyline, it's protecting the tree.
11:26 <Cepheid> History/legend of the tree in this game is that a mortal being by the simple name of "The Despot" apparently decided to invade the land surrounding the tree to claim it for himself, as it apparently contained some sort of immeasurable power in it.
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11:26 <Cepheid> The races of the land banded together, defeated the Despot and his armies, and then the Celestrians apparently placed magic guardians to watch over the tree.
11:27 <Schism> 6 Strata. Celestrians. I wonder if they equate to Honesty, Kindness, et cetera.
11:27 <Cepheid> Those guardians have since weakened over time, and now the four races got together to debate what to do about it. They decided rather than military action to invade the tree, that they should send small groups of five people in to explore it.
11:27 <Cepheid> Actually it's interesting that Celestrians were involved in it's sealing.
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11:27 <Cepheid> Since Celestrians are one of the four races you can make characters out of.
11:28 <Cepheid> So their descendants are ignoring the very things they set up to protect the tree.
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11:29 * Cepheid tries to take out the first of many FOEs.
11:29 <Cepheid> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUs2_7SYAI8
11:29 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about IOSYS FOE SONG - ENGLISH SUBS EXTENDED VERSION - ETRIAN ODYSSEY
11:31 <Cepheid> And Razor didn't make it.
11:32 <RazorSharpFang> Woo
11:33 <Finwe> Poor RazorSharpFang.
11:33 <Cepheid> FOEs are basically minibosses. Minibosses that you encounter in regular areas all the time. And murder the heck out of you.
11:33 <Cepheid> Truth told, Razor died because Cepheid ran out of TP.
11:33 <Finwe> :|
11:34 <Finwe> Silly Cepheid.
11:34 <RazorSharpFang> Is this an RPGMaker game?
11:34 <Cepheid> No. Etrian Odyssey 5, for the 3DS.
11:34 <RazorSharpFang> Hmm.
11:34 <Cepheid> Dungeon crawler. You build a team of 5 characters and invade a dungeon to get your *YAY* wrecked.
11:35 <Finwe> Why would you want to get your *YAY* wrecked?
11:35 <Cepheid> Because the dungeon holds secrets.
11:35 <Cepheid> Powerful secrets.
11:35 <Finwe> I like my *YAY* unwrecked, if possible.
11:35 <Cepheid> ... Usually ancient sealed gods.
11:36 <Cepheid> That'll destroy the world if you don't kill them after you unseal them by mistake.
11:36 <Finwe> Anciend sealed gods are likely to devour your mind and body.
11:36 <Cepheid> Less your mind, more your body.
11:36 <Finwe> Aren't gods more or less immortal by definition?
11:36 <Cepheid> Though in EO1's case, it was less a sealed god and more global warming made manifest into a living being.
11:37 <Cepheid> Immortal, not invincible.
11:37 <Cepheid> Right, now that I upgraded some gear a bit, do I want to fight yet another FOE?
11:38 <Cepheid> Razor should survive a hit this time without Cepheid's aid. I gave him some new armour.
11:38 <Cepheid> But it'd be nice if everyone had fully-upgraded weapons before I fought some more.
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11:40 <Cepheid> Finwe: What basic roleplaying archetype fits you best, do you think? Mage, Healer, Warrior, Archer, Thief, etc?
11:41 <Finwe> High Elven spellsword. o3o
11:42 <Cepheid> Race-wise, that'd place you as Celestrian. I presume spellsword is a swordsman that uses magic spells. That would make you..
11:43 <Cepheid> Probably a shaman. They do buffing magic, mostly, and they can use swords.
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11:47 <RazorSharpFang> Judging at how poorly my base is holding up at 60% evolution, I should probably launch a rocket and attain victory before defeat occurs.
11:50 <Cepheid> Heh.
11:50 <RazorSharpFang> Or at least grab some power armor MK2 with a fusion reactor. I could fight forever with that.
11:52 <Finwe> Cepheid: Rather a mage who uses a sword.
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11:56 <RazorSharpFang> More things are getting destroyed...
11:59 <Cepheid> Alas, Finwe, none of the classes have that kind of setup. The closest would be the Fencer, who uses skills that follow up on attacks from other members to do elemental damage.
12:04 <Cepheid> My kingdom for some poison resist gear.
12:07 <Cepheid> Poison in this series is destructive.
12:08 <Cepheid> At maximum level, the typical poison skill a player gets can deal over 500 damage. Most monsters generally only have a few thousand HP by that point. It's a large chunk of their HP. On the other hand, it's also destructive in their hands as well. Right now, poison from the Toxipede does over 70 damage. The highest HP in my team is 91.
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12:15 <Jahnesta> Heyy
12:17 <Cepheid> Hoi.
12:17 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Comic: Catch of the Day / Pone Wars 5:18 / Stable 33 - 11 / A(pple)ffection 54 / Breaks Softly 6 / Arrival 31 / Betrayl and Loss 6 [ http://tinyurl.com/y8p7vlbs ]
12:18 <Jahnesta> How are you all?
12:19 <Finwe> Mijnheer Jahnesta.
12:19 * Finwe doffs his hat.
12:20 <Finwe> Hoe gaat het?
12:20 <Jahnesta> Mehh, kon beter..
12:20 * Jahnesta Doffs his Finwe
12:20 * Finwe hugs Jahnesta.
12:20 * Jahnesta Purrs
12:20 <Jahnesta> My dad is kinda not happy with me :/
12:21 <Jahnesta> What happened, Monday was the last day before spring break, so we went to a trampoline park
12:22 <Jahnesta> And i kept my glasses on while jumping, since i’m practically blind without them...
12:22 <Jahnesta> And there was this pool, only filled with gray foam rubber blocks
12:23 <Jahnesta> An if you jumped in, you oddly sank to the bottom a bit, kinda like quicksand :P
12:23 <Finwe> A person does not sink into quicksand, for physical reasons.
12:23 <Finwe> o3o
12:23 <Jahnesta> And when i jumped in, my glasses fell off...
12:23 <Jahnesta> And you know what i mean, smarty pants! xD
12:24 <Finwe> Did you find them?
12:24 <Finwe> And more importantly, were they intact?
12:24 <RazorSharpFang> OURGH, the attacks are constant now.
12:24 <Jahnesta> And since i already can hardly see without them, i tried digging for them as fast as i could
12:25 <Jahnesta> But i couldn’t find them, so i asked my teacher for help
12:25 <Jahnesta> And i couldn’t find them, he couldn’t, even my entire class was digging in that thing!
12:26 <Jahnesta> And when even a lady that worked there couldn’t find them, we kinda gave up...
12:26 <Finwe> The solution, of course, is to empty the pool and pick up the glasses from off the bottom.
12:27 <Jahnesta> And now my dad is a bit angry at me for not taking my glasses off...
12:27 <Jahnesta> They weren’t gonna do that in another 3 weeks
12:27 <Finwe> You should have worn some sort of goggles with a cord going around your head.
12:28 <Jahnesta> Omc, a lady there suggested the exact same thing :P
12:29 <Jahnesta> But my dad is really pissed at my school, for leaving without my glasses, but we had to be there beofre recess
12:29 <Jahnesta> So we didn’t have much choice, though school did leave their phone number, just in case
12:30 <Jahnesta> But with all kids that come there during spring break, i’m not expecting there to be much left after those 3 weeks...
12:30 <Jahnesta> (But i did found 10 cents :D )
12:32 <Jahnesta> I gave them to my teacher, because he helped looking
12:32 <Jahnesta> And i got my backup glasses now, so i’ll be ok :3
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12:55 <Jahnesta> Well i gtg, see ya’ll :P
12:56 <Jahnesta> (As long as i don’t loose my backup glasses too!)
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13:19 <Cepheid> Heh. Xenoblade Chronicles 2 is adding some new blades near the end of the month. One of them is...
13:19 <Cepheid> Alongside KOS-MOS Re:, there's now T-elos Re:.
13:19 <Finwe> Amun-Re.
13:21 <Cepheid> Anyways, I'm gonna go get some exercise.
13:22 * Finwe renders Cepheid a part of a drill excercise.
13:22 <Finwe> Attention!
13:22 * Cepheid is too busy exercising to acknowledge.
13:22 <Finwe> Present arms!
13:23 * Cepheid presents Finwe with mannequin arms.
13:23 <Finwe> o3o
13:24 * Finwe gives up.
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13:58 <RazorSharpFang> Cepheid, I am running out of repair kits, and running out of iron trying to repair the walls.
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14:18 <Cepheid> Heh.
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14:18 <Cepheid> Yeah, that was the only detail I didn't mention. Rampant is quite difficult, to a point where it tends to be a good idea to have some new types of turrets.
14:19 <Cepheid> Rampant introduces a lot of new variations of biters, uses a tiered, configurable evolution system, among other things.
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14:21 <RazorSharpFang> Right, but I just mean the organised enemy is a lot more dangerous than an unorganised enemy
14:21 <Cepheid> That may have been part of the inspiration for my modular turret system. The alternative to such a system would be to add a series of different kinds of turrets, with differing tiers.
14:21 <Cepheid> Yeah.
14:21 <Cepheid> There's also that little issue. Used to be worse, from what I hear.
14:21 <Cepheid> Earlier versions of Rampant would have swarms of over 100-200 biters.
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14:24 <Cepheid> By the by, RazorSharpFang, when I speak of not getting involved in anything on social media, I speak of controversial issues. Politics, religion, current political climate issues, political correctness, that sort of stuff.
14:24 <Cepheid> It seems like saying even the slightest thing about any of that is an invitation to extreme backlash.
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14:25 <RazorSharpFang> Right, but I know people who say that everything is political; business, economics, law, movies, games, artwork, it's all political.
14:25 <Cepheid> I disagree, but I do admit that there are conflicts even within fields that make no sense for conflict.
14:26 <Cepheid> Like the whole argument over what text editor one should use, or what OS one should design for or use.
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14:26 <RazorSharpFang> I'm actually very agreeable, and I almost always argue in jest - I don't actually care for the outcome much, just there for the journey.
14:26 <Cepheid> Those cases tend to be a lot more subdued on Social Media compared to say, discussing vaccinations, political *YAY*-storms going on in various countries, medical conditions, mental illness, gun control and all that.
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14:27 <Cepheid> Discussing such topics tends to open what I like to call a can of minatiure giant man-eating space worms that breathe plasma and neutrinos in unsafe densities.
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14:28 <Cepheid> Just mentioning the idea that people who are suffering repeated "episodes" of mental breakdowns should probably seek professional help to investigate the possibility of a condition that might need treatment garnered me a good amount of ridicule.
14:29 <Cepheid> Turns out a lot of people don't believe mental illness is real, and that we're just faking it.
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14:29 <RazorSharpFang> Well, given the existence of the flat-earth society, people will clearly believe anything.
14:30 <Cepheid> Indeed. And heavens help me if I ever bring that up.
14:30 <Finwe> People believing something doesn't luckily make anything real or unreal.
14:30 <Cepheid> No, but it results in a lot of negativity if you try to discuss or argue against things that aren't real.
14:30 <Cepheid> And the thing is, right now?
14:31 <RazorSharpFang> Well, that depends on what you mean by real.
14:31 <Cepheid> From where I am sitting, I see a lot of people undergoing an incredible amount of duress and other stress, for varying reasons.
14:31 <Finwe> The dead aren't magically resurrected, vaccination still is good for people on average, the earth is round and so on.
14:31 <Cepheid> In fact, it seems like more and more, people are growing more and more depressed. Perhaps it's just that people are coming out with it, given that the stigma is going away slowly, but...
14:32 <Cepheid> The amount of people I see that are either dead serious or joking about how they want to die to escape the "troubles" of life is growing.
14:32 <Cepheid> And a lot of it has to do with simply the fact that if you express any view, people will argue against you or denigrate you for it.
14:32 <Cepheid> Which doesn't really help one's mental wellbeing or mood.
14:33 <Cepheid> I understand that not bringing things up is tantamount to silence regarding social problems in the world, but..
14:33 <RazorSharpFang> Well, you should surround yourself with people who want the best for you, and with people you want the best for.
14:33 <Cepheid> Fortunately, *THAT* is getting easier to do in this day and age.
14:34 <Cepheid> One of the benefits of the Internet. You gain the ability to connect with people all around the world. You're more or less guaranteed to find one or more people who share a common interest in the wellbeing of those around them.
14:34 <Cepheid> Unfortunately, just as it's easy to find such people, it's also easy to find, and run into people who want nothing but the worst for everyone around them because it makes them feel better.
14:35 <RazorSharpFang> Don't forget those groups of people who are gathered and united under how much they hate the other group of people.
14:35 <Cepheid> Yep.
14:35 <RazorSharpFang> Who are likewise.
14:36 <RazorSharpFang> I like to imagine them intensely vibrating together in a humerous fashion. Angery vibrating.
14:36 <Cepheid> Funny thing is, I'm not exactly above them. I have a strong hatred towards people who feel hatred towards groups based on trivial things.
14:37 <Cepheid> Eh, anyways don't mind me too much. Just putting a lot of thought into something I noticed in recent weeks.
14:37 <RazorSharpFang> Well, a lot of the time even speaking about something will help you piece it together in your mind.
14:37 <Cepheid> I still have my episodes, I admit. But overall, I've become considerably happier, and have a better outlook on life than I used to. I'm not quite sure why.
14:38 <Cepheid> I still have panic attacks over doing poorly on single assignments that are worth maybe 3% of my mark, among other things. I've gotten to depressed points where I've had to admit myself to the ER, like I did a few weeks ago. I still feel an uncontrollable emotion every now and then, and so on.
14:39 <Cepheid> And yet, overall, I feel my life has improved despite all this.
14:39 * Finwe hugs a Cepheid.
14:39 <RazorSharpFang> Well, progress is gradual, but don't lose yourself over it.
14:40 <Cepheid> Nah, I'm not. I'm just trying to figure out why my mind is slowly changing about things like that.
14:40 <Cepheid> Part of my obsessive need to analyze things.
14:41 <Cepheid> About the only conclusion I can come to is that I've opted to stay out of arguments, particularly controversial ones. I actively seek to avoid anything I know will "push my buttons" so to speak.
14:41 <Cepheid> Since the moment something pushes that button, it's basically a forgone conclusion that I will enter a depressive episode.
14:42 <RazorSharpFang> What's worse... is that those who are the best at pushing buttons are those who're closest to you.
14:42 <Cepheid> I literally cannot control my temper or emotions once they get going. In order to keep them subdued, I have to avoid situations I know will poke at them.
14:42 <Cepheid> And yes, that is the case. But there's also the general case of, like I said, social media.
14:43 <Cepheid> Unfortunately, any time you respond to someone else, anyone who can see that person's tweet, facebook post, etc, can also see my response.
14:43 <Cepheid> And then you got people who retweet the response, or "like" the response, causing it to show up in people's feeds.
14:44 <Cepheid> The end-result is that you are guaranteed to have someone who disagrees with you, and hates your guts for it, go after you.
14:44 <RazorSharpFang> So far that hasn't happened to me, but I don't do a lot of replying outside of close friends.
14:44 <Cepheid> And once that one person finds you, you're pretty much gonna get spammed a bit.
14:44 <Cepheid> I have acquantances on Twitter, not friends.
14:45 <Cepheid> And I know I mispelled that word, please don't correct me. :P
14:45 <Cepheid> The result is that there is no "close-knit" group of people I talk to on Twitter. If I see something and I feel the need to respond(Which is pretty much a warning signal for me that I should listen to. DON'T DO IT.), I'll respond, against common sense.
14:46 <Cepheid> Unfortunately, due to the interconnectedness of people, and depending on the popularity of the person I am responding to, things can go downhill pretty quickly.
14:46 <Cepheid> I long for the days of instant messaging that was private.
14:47 <Cepheid> "You *bleep*ing *yay* *bleep bleep* *yaaaay* FREEDOM OF SPEECH!"
14:47 <Cepheid> Theoretical response from someone if they saw me comment on how I want private conversations again. :P
14:48 <Cepheid> Oddly enough, nowadays on Twitter, if people have a problem with me, it's not as easy to push my buttons. Mostly because I just push the "mute" button on them.
14:48 <Cepheid> But it's still a little annoying to see "You got 31415 notifications!"
14:48 <Cepheid> All of which are either negative or positive responses, or simple retweets, or likes, etc, etc, etc.
14:48 <RazorSharpFang> Do you really get that many? I haven't gotten many at all.
14:49 <Cepheid> I'm exaggerating. I wanted to use PI multiplied by 10000. No, when it comes to controversial topics, I tend to get anywhere from about 10 to over a 100 over a period of a few days.
14:50 <Cepheid> Moreso if someone well-known retweets what I stated. Like a movie star or voice actor.
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14:51 <Cepheid> I could never handle fame for doing anything. It would annoy me. I'd close my account and pop up under a new name and never speak of what it is I did under that new name.
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14:54 <Razzaroo-hime> Hi
14:54 <Razzaroo-hime> http://fav.me/dc9ai26
14:56 <RazorSharpFang> I'd have a rough time dealing with it myself.
14:57 <Razzaroo-hime> :P
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14:58 <Cepheid> Hey Princess Razzaroo.
14:59 <Razzaroo-hime> Hi ^-^
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15:00 <Fn> Soo, apparently average talking is 150-160 wpm, while top steno writers can output up to a 360wpm, but then again there are speed-talkers talking at 670wpm
15:01 <Fn> Interesting
15:01 <RazorSharpFang> Machine-gun talking.
15:02 <RyuImperator> hello
15:03 <Finwe> Greetings, RyuImperator.
15:03 <Cepheid> I could not talk that fast.
15:03 * Finwe boops a RyuImperator.
15:03 <Cepheid> In doing so, I would trip over words, and I guarantee the wrong words would start popping up in a few seconds.
15:04 <RyuImperator> hi Finwe, Cepheid
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15:06 <Razzaroo-hime> ⭐
15:09 <Cepheid> It's hilarious how Unicode(And UTF-8) has basically allowed IRC, a client-server protocol that's over three decades old, to support extended character sets without any real change to the protocol.
15:09 <Razzaroo-hime> o o ?
15:09 <RazorSharpFang> Yeah that's pretty neat
15:11 <Cepheid> Razzaroo-hime: The program you use to chat with us is an IRC client. You're connected to an IRC network. IRC, Internet Relay Chat, is a decades-old protocol for mass group communication. It predates instant messaging services and the like.
15:11 <Cepheid> It's still in use because it's a simple protocol, and relatively reliable.
15:12 <Razzaroo-hime> Oh, xD all i know is this is kiwi services
15:12 <Cepheid> Back then though, emoji didn't exist in the form they did now.
15:12 <Razzaroo-hime> also they have one for spirit science
15:12 <Cepheid> It worked under the pretense that all text would be encoded in single bytes. Unfortunately, there are languages out there that require multiple bytes per character.
15:12 <Razzaroo-hime> they have a chat room for that place as well
15:12 <Cepheid> Mandarin, Japanese, Korean to name a few.
15:13 <Razzaroo-hime> so sometimes
15:13 <Razzaroo-hime> i go from spirit science chat to here
15:13 <Cepheid> Heh.
15:15 <Razzaroo-hime> :p
15:16 <Cepheid> Arguably, you could have also written text in Japanese, Korean and Mandarin way back when, but there would be encoding issues involved. UTF-8 pretty much solves the problem. Though not everyone agrees with how Unicode is handling it.
15:17 <Cepheid> So you still got people who use country-specific encodings, like SHIFT-JIS and all that.
15:17 <RazorSharpFang> My vote is for things to be done better.
15:18 <Cepheid> Apparently the biggest issue is that there was an attempt to unify a bunch of glyphs in Unicode. Particularly, glyphs in Korean, Japanese and Chinese languages.
15:18 <Cepheid> Since all three languages, at one point or another, borrowed from one of the other languages.
15:19 <Cepheid> So you encoded all the glyphs for Korean, Chinese and Japanese separately, you'd have a lot of duplicate entries.
15:19 <Cepheid> Er, so if*
15:19 <Finwe> Ancient Chinese is the original writing system.
15:19 <RazorSharpFang> Well you have to for a lot, especially with the traditional/whatever chinese.
15:19 <Cepheid> Unification attempts to resolve this by reducing the duplicate glyphs to a single glyph.
15:19 <Cepheid> Problem is, because the cultures don't quite get along, some take offense to this.
15:20 <RazorSharpFang> Why can't we be friends?
15:20 <Cepheid> Nevermind that it's practical and MAKES SENSE TO DO IT THIS WAY.
15:20 <Finwe> The Japanese borrowed it as such, but also developed some of their own, as Chinese glyphs lack the ability to depict some nuances of the Japanese language.
15:20 <Cepheid> Mmhmm.
15:20 <RazorSharpFang> My offense is immeasurable and my day is ruined.
15:21 <Cepheid> So yeah, that's why Unicode isn't formally adopted in practically everything, despite it's usefulness.
15:22 <Cepheid> No, instead, we have to continue to co-exist with CP437, SHIFT-JIS and whatever other arcane systems exist out there.
15:22 <Cepheid> Wouldn't surprise me if Russia had one of it's own purely to spite the US at this point.
15:22 <Finwe> Modern Korean was invented by the king of Korea back in 1444.
15:22 <RazorSharpFang> Arcane misteries.
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15:23 <Finwe> But the Koreans used Classical Chinese writing prior to that, and also a long time afterwards.
15:23 <Cepheid> Me, I'm fine with Unicode. Does it work? Yes. Is it the best system out there? Not sure about that. Could probably be improved, but it does help in a lot of ways.
15:24 <Cepheid> You don't have to write two versions of an application to support ASCII, and MBC anymore, since Unicode overlaps with ASCII to begin with.
15:25 <Cepheid> So you can by default simply work with wide/MBC strings in the application and, in theory. IN THEORY, it should work. Work better than the old way of handling MBC strings, anyways.
15:25 <Cepheid> Oh dear gods that was a nightmare.
15:26 <Razzaroo-hime> I was napping and then this thing image in my head scared me.
15:26 <Cepheid> Oh?
15:26 <Razzaroo-hime> It was like a bee butterfly
15:27 <Razzaroo-hime> idk why it scared me xD
15:27 <RazorSharpFang> Cepheid, under Rampant, will I still be attacked even if there's no enemy bases within pollution range?
15:28 <Cepheid> I have no idea, to be honest. My limited experience with it says "No."
15:28 <Cepheid> But they *WILL* follow you back.
15:28 <Cepheid> Rampant implements a pheromone system.
15:28 <Cepheid> If bugs get a whiff of you, they'll track you down to wherever you go.
15:28 <RazorSharpFang> Oh, any idea what range of detection it has?
15:33 <RazorSharpFang> I'm really enjoying my PowerArmorMK2 with 2 Exoskeletons.
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15:45 <Cepheid> I don't know off-hand. But it goes on quite a bit.
15:45 <Cepheid> Hold on, I'll give you a good idea with an image I have on hand.
15:46 <RazorSharpFang> I stopped for a minute, and then a huge swarm said hi from the direction I came.
15:46 <Cepheid> https://drive.google.com/open?id=1rmuu8EDz7s64c9fTbSXeiRQElfcj0uB5 So, this is a map of the area I played a Rampant save in. I obviously started at the center.
15:47 <Cepheid> You see that lake to the west? I was beyond there, when I aggroed a bunch of bugs I couldn't handle.
15:47 <Cepheid> They followed me back to my base.
15:47 <Cepheid> All the way.
15:47 <RazorSharpFang> Okay, but I meant in terms of how close do they have to be to the "trail" and how wide does the trail get from your actual position(s).
15:47 <Cepheid> Basically, you leave a cloud of pheromones as you travel. If you got a swarm on you, it's not gonna leave you be unless you drive away very fast.
15:48 <Cepheid> I assume the cloud size itself is about the size of your aggro radius.
15:48 <Cepheid> What it takes for them to start attacking you in the first place.
15:50 <Cepheid> How quickly it disperses, I don't know, but it disperses slowly enough that even getting a good distance away isn't enough to stop them from chasing. You'd probably have to be traveling in a car with solid fuel or higher in order to escape.
15:53 <RazorSharpFang> Your advice regarding swapping out exoskeletons was very good advice.
16:04 <RazorSharpFang> But I think the answer is "Yes, they do attack even if outside of your pollution range"
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16:11 <Cepheid> News to me.
16:11 <Cepheid> Good to know for future games.
16:11 <RazorSharpFang> I've eliminated all the bases remotely near the pollution cloud - still brutal attacks.
16:11 <Cepheid> Meanwhile I must apologize for my silence. I'm kind of watching an anime right now. Finished exercising and now I'm "relaxing" so to speak.
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16:13 <RazorSharpFang> What was your exercise
16:13 <Cepheid> Rowing, 30 minutes worth.
16:13 <RazorSharpFang> Actual rowing, or a rowing machine?
16:13 <Cepheid> Rowing machine.
16:14 <RazorSharpFang> Yeah, rowing machines are great. You can go ham all you like and it just makes it louder.
16:14 <Cepheid> The plan is to get 30 minutes of exercise sometime shortly after I awaken, preferably before lunch.
16:14 <Cepheid> I can't maintain a regular sleeping schedule, so my goal is to try and set a dynamic schedule with set periods for stuff, starting or ending at calculated times after I wake up.
16:14 <Cepheid> Thus, exercising within the first five hours after waking up.
16:15 <RazorSharpFang> Gotta have order somewhere
16:15 <Cepheid> I can't maintain a regular sleep cycle for some inexplicable reason. When I try, I start suffering side effects from doing so, so I might as well structure my daily routine around when I wake up instead.
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16:16 <Cepheid> Anyway...
16:17 <Cepheid> The only issue I have with my idea for modular turrets is that configuring hundreds of turrets would get tiring after the first 10 or so.
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16:18 <RazorSharpFang> Well, you could always have them larger, so there'd be less of them. a 2x2 or something.
16:18 <Cepheid> A better approach to the problem would probably be to create a static turret based on an input recipe.
16:18 <Cepheid> They're already 2x2. :P
16:18 <RazorSharpFang> 4x4 then
16:18 <Cepheid> I could probably also get away with the Shift+Right Click/Shift+Left Click system.
16:18 <Cepheid> Duplicate settings.
16:19 <Cepheid> You click on the turret, a GUI opens, you set up what you want it to spit out, then simply copy and paste the settings afterwards.
16:19 <Cepheid> It'd be more convenient.
16:20 <Cepheid> The issue then becomes "What do I use as ammo?" Obviously, energy weapons will use electricity, the cost being dependent on the configuration of the bullet.
16:20 <Cepheid> But of course there are regular good ole' physical projectiles. Nothing like caving in a biter's face with a cannon ball.
16:21 <Cepheid> Hmm. Actually, that's an idea. The base type of projectile determines the "ammo" you need to feed into the turret.
16:22 <Cepheid> Would it be a bad idea to have configurations that would require multiple "ammo" items to be supplied to a turret, Razor?
16:23 <RazorSharpFang> I dunno, you'd have to see how cumbersome it would be
16:23 <Cepheid> Say for example, you want to use a homing rocket. In order to use it, you have the base rocket projectile, and you also have to give the turret some little gizmo that represents the hardware that provides the seeking/homing functionality
16:23 <Cepheid> Thing is, two items wouldn't be too cumbersome.
16:23 <Cepheid> Each belt can handle two items.
16:24 <Cepheid> With long inserters, you can support up to four items. In extreme cases, a 2x2 turret could handle up to 16 possible items.
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16:25 <RazorSharpFang> And here I thought the 6 input types for labs were pushing it.
16:26 <Cepheid> I'm not saying I'd do it. ALso, it's 7 input types.
16:27 <RazorSharpFang> I've never used the rocketry one.
16:27 <Cepheid> Pack 1, Pack 2, Pack 3, Military, Production, High Tech, Space.
16:28 <Cepheid> In any case, yeah, it'd be interesting to try out, at least.
16:28 <Cepheid> First though I want to get caught up on lost sleep.
16:28 <RazorSharpFang> I'm about to go to sleep first.
16:28 <RazorSharpFang> err, I mean also.
16:29 <Cepheid> Heh.
16:29 <Cepheid> When I get started, I'll publish the mod on github under an MIT license. You're free to assist me if desired. That is, if you don't mind working in Lua. :P
16:30 <Cepheid> At the least, have you test it. You and ConfusionRift seem to attract the attention of programming bugs inexplicably. :P
16:30 * Schism flops.
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16:32 <RazorSharpFang> Nothing quite like seeing a construction robot slowly approach you from your rail-line. "Oh, how long have you been out?" "TOO LONG"
16:33 <Cepheid> Heh.
16:33 <Cepheid> It's worse when you've let a bot lag behind while out in combat. You're driving around, and you see the bot in the distance. "FOR THE LOVE OF ASIMOV PLEASE! STOOOOOOP!"
16:34 <RazorSharpFang> 10 entities destroyed. All of them construction robots.
16:36 <Cepheid> The bots are like mindless puppies. Chase after you endlessly, with no regard to their safety.
16:36 * Saerydoth forgot how much bigger Metroid Prime 2 was than the original
16:36 <Saerydoth> it would be about the same if not for the dark world
16:36 <RazorSharpFang> I have to remember to take off my roboport when I'm in the tank, else they'll try to repair me mid-combat and end up dead.
16:37 <Cepheid> That's usually why I carry about 150 on me while in combat situations.
16:37 <Cepheid> They repair the tank for me, I don't mind losing a few.
16:37 <RazorSharpFang> It's an electric engine unit per robot, and they take ages to craft.
16:38 <Cepheid> That's generally why I set up like, 10 assemblers making the electric engine units, and another 10 assemblers making the robot frames.
16:39 * Saerydoth is actually surprised how good the Gamecube looks on this 1080p monitor though
16:39 <Cepheid> I don't just set up one or two assemblers. I have the resources, I'm going overboard.
16:40 <Cepheid> Probably why I've never launched a rocket. I just go crazy.
16:40 <RazorSharpFang> Maybe go crazy with launching rockets/
16:41 <Cepheid> That might happen, yes.
16:41 <Cepheid> The plan is, once I launch a rocket, that basically means I have all the basic materials and production stuff in place to do whatever. Sooooo...
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16:41 <Cepheid> I'll calculate the required resources to launch one rocket per 5 minutes.
16:42 <Cepheid> Then slowly reduce that to half. Then half again. Then half again. Until I hit 1 a second. :P
16:42 <RazorSharpFang> Is such a thing even possible? The resources get further and further apart right?
16:45 <Cepheid> Further and further apart, but the resource generating system is designed to spawn larger and larger and denser and denser packs.
16:45 <Cepheid> The game can, and will spawn billion-ore patches.
16:46 <RazorSharpFang> My repair robots keep leaving while I'm boarding a train and they get left behind.
16:46 <Cepheid> It labels them as "G" patches, though. Apparently the devs decided to keep using the si prefixes even for counting. Thus, when you see 1.1M, it's actually "1.1 Mega-something" units.
16:46 <Cepheid> Meaning the next tier is "Giga", then after that, Tera.
16:46 <Cepheid> I've seen Giga. Each single tile of ore in such a patch has over 20,000 ore.
16:47 <Cepheid> Literally half a million ore under one mining drill.
16:47 <Cepheid> Well, electric mining drill.
16:47 <RazorSharpFang> Better use Speed3 modules.
16:47 <Cepheid> That's usually what happens, yes.
16:48 <Cepheid> Though apparently for the best results..
16:48 <Cepheid> Put Productivity Module 3s in all slots of the drill. THen surround the drill with 8 beacons, using Speed Module 3s.
16:48 <Cepheid> You get over 3 ore a second.
16:48 <RazorSharpFang> +30% productivity, huh?
16:48 <RazorSharpFang> More iron per iron
16:49 <Cepheid> Really, the limiting factor is the belts.
16:50 <Finwe> o3o
16:50 * Finwe lets loose a bunch of rust monsters into RazorSharpFang's iron storage.
16:51 <Cepheid> If you want to achieve high throughput, you'll generally want to stop using belts. Unless of course, you opt to use a belt mod that adds even higher-speed belts.
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16:54 <RazorSharpFang> How can you stop using belts?
16:55 <Cepheid> Logistics robots.
16:57 <Cepheid> Basically, you set your inserters to output to a passive or active provider chest. Any inputs you need are fed from requester chests.
16:59 <RazorSharpFang> I'm finding myself hunted down very often, and the range is a LOT more than the aggro range.
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17:02 <ADragonDreaming> Return the slab
17:06 <Cepheid> No.
17:07 <Cepheid> Also I haven't seen that show in ages.
17:07 <Cepheid> I wish I could watch it again.
17:07 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Fanfiction: The Train Ride [ http://tinyurl.com/ya3wln46 ]
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17:21 <Cepheid> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSBQEEXHQiI ADragonDreaming.
17:21 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.
17:21 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about MHWorld Shots: New and Old Jho
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17:42 <Cepheid> My cat has the right idea about today.
17:42 <Cepheid> Curl up on the bed and sleep.
17:43 <RyuImperator> smart
17:44 <RazorSharpFang> I'm off to sleep good night.
17:46 <RyuImperator> good night RazorSharpFang
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17:53 <Cepheid> It's been a hectic month for me.
17:54 <Cepheid> I should have realized sooner that my medication was affecting me negatively at such a high dose.
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19:15 <Schism> "I should think you, Miss Rarity, one of the best suited to help Twilight in her gathering of information." "Why so?" "Recherche, that which is carefully sought out, from the same root as research. To find those hidden gems..."
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19:26 <roflin> is that that one noir episode?
19:57 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Artemisa - New Animation Trailer [ http://tinyurl.com/yardbzvl ]
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20:43 * Schism stares at the data about the person who drove a truck through a crowd of pedestrians, the other day. "Seriously?"
20:45 <Cepheid> What's up?
20:45 <Ali> Wasn't that in Toronto a few days ago?
20:46 <Cepheid> Yes.
20:47 <Schism> Here's the part that really rankles.
20:47 <Schism> He committed mass murder because he couldn't get laid.
20:47 <Cepheid> Ah, yes.
20:47 <Cepheid> The... I won't say it's name, movement.
20:47 <Cepheid> Kinda makes you want to go up to the guy and slap him across the face.
20:47 <Schism> It has many names. Most are stupid.
20:47 <Cepheid> I'd punch him but I don't want assault on my record.
20:47 <Cepheid> Or attempted murder since I wouldn't stop punching.
20:48 <Schism> You'd also have to get in line.
20:48 <Ali> The heck
20:48 <Schism> Ali: That is the long and the short of his motive.
20:48 <Schism> Well, stated motive.
20:48 <Ali> That's the worst motive ever
20:49 <Schism> I can think of some worse ones, but not many.
20:50 * Ali lays on Cepheid and whines. "Slow producting blue bottles sucks... only 125 more to go."
20:50 <Cepheid> Yep.
20:50 <Cepheid> That's actually how I advance in some cases. Hand crafting or using a temporary assembler with all the supplied items to craft them for me.
20:51 <Cepheid> Bleh. I feel like *YAY*. I'm not as tired as I was yesterday, that much is certain, but I still feel like I'm in need of sleep.
20:51 <Ali> I'm trying to get to electric furnaces so I can tear up the base and relay everything
20:54 <Cepheid> I think the last few weeks have taken a considerable toll on me. That and the fact that I used a muscle very powerful muscle relaxant on the two days leading up to the last final exam of mine.
20:54 <Cepheid> ... That, and I kind of did a 180 on my sleep cycle in less than three days. That is NOT SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN.
20:56 <Cepheid> Usually the only way that happens is through extreme measures. Usually forcing myself to stay awake for a very long time, or applying multiple sleep aids at the same time.
20:56 <Cepheid> Kids, don't do this.
20:57 <Cepheid> I've been doing this for about 16 years now, I'm kind of a professional at it, and I really, really don't advise it. It's like getting hit in the face by a basketball while getting punched in the stomach by a 300lbs football player running at you at full speed.
20:58 * Ali pat pats Cepheid
21:06 <Cepheid> I've spent most of the day laying around watching anime since I do not have the physical energy to do much else now.
21:07 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Drawfriend Stuff (Pony Art Gallery) #2602 [ http://tinyurl.com/y9ajzkad ]
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21:11 <Cepheid> Game says the third floor FOE is of comparable level to me. Aaaaahahaha- NO.
21:11 <Cepheid> I know the EO series too well. Third floor FOE is always worse than the second floor FOE.
21:12 * Cepheid throws Schism at it to distract it.
21:12 <Schism> I'm pretty sure it's not lying. It's of a comparable level to you, certainly.
21:12 * Schism warghs! Dies.
21:13 * Ali confuzzles!
21:13 <Schism> Ali: FOEs are more or less boss monsters.
21:14 <Ali> What's an FOE?
21:14 <Schism> So even if they're of the same level as the player's party, it's gonna be hard as heck.
21:14 * Ali reads it as Fallout Equestria
21:14 <Cepheid> The actual acronym I forget the meaning of.
21:14 <Schism> Formido Oppognatura Exsenguens.
21:14 <Schism> "A scary thing that takes out all your blood."
21:14 <Cepheid> But it's basically a miniboss that walks around and threatens you in the Etrian Odyssey series.
21:14 <Schism> Exsequens*
21:15 <Schism> In Etrian Odyssey, even a miniboss is of... frightful proportions.
21:16 <Cepheid> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dB_PVPyn6n8 There is even an official song by IOSYS, with newgrounds clip.
21:16 * Schism collapses to nap for just an hour. Gah.
21:22 <Cepheid> FOEs effectively prey on certain types of players.
21:23 <Cepheid> The kind that don't like to run from battles, or use cheap tactics
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21:50 <Ali> Cepheid, I've released the bots but....THEY'RE SO SLOW!
21:51 <Ali> And yes I know about the speed upgrade
21:51 <Ali> But I'm in the middle of reconstruction
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21:58 <Ali> crap Cepheid I accidently deleted the belts book
21:58 <Ali> Is there a way to get that back?
22:00 <Ali> Nevermind I was able to regrab it from the server
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22:25 <Cepheid> Ack, sorry.
22:25 <Cepheid> You can also grab it from https://wiki.factorio.com/Balancers scroll down and click the big blue button that reads 'Copy blueprint string' and then just use the import window ingame.
22:31 * Cepheid wanders off to take a shower.
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22:42 <Fn> https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/932685726818383156/0608858380519AAA8D35B3C42C35476BFA007CE8/
22:43 <Fn> Some people
22:43 <Fn> I do need aimbot for that 2m distance
22:43 <Fn> Absoluterly
22:57 <Cepheid> Ali, I envy you. Your cats don't fight over you or get jealous all the time.
22:58 <Ali> Tia comes to me for attention in the afternoon/early evening
22:58 <Ali> Luna loves night time cuddling
23:00 <Ali> Right now Cepheid I'm having about 30 construction bots help me redo my base layout
23:00 <Cepheid> If one is sleeping on or near me, the other has to come and bother me for attention. And heavens help me if Tizzy is on my lap. Spitfire does not like that one bit.
23:01 <Cepheid> How's the redesign going?
23:01 <Ali> Slow cause they're tier 1/1 bots
23:07 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Drawfriend - Equestria Girls / Anthro MLP Art Gallery #11 [ http://tinyurl.com/yc9bsjyj ]
23:13 * Schism flops back in. "Mmh."
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23:16 <ADragonDreaming> Myrrh
23:17 <Cepheid> So, schism. I killed all the Toxipedes on floor 2. The first FOE, right? Before I finished up for the day, I got a quest to go to floor 2 and kill a Toxipede.
23:18 <Schism> Welp, time to wait for 7 days.
23:18 * Schism rolls over and offers Adra a spear. A fine weapon for atop a horse.
23:19 <Cepheid> Yep. Gotta love that.
23:19 <Schism> Isn't that a quest in every Etrian Odyssey? Kill the FoE of the second floor?
23:21 <Cepheid> Our party is doing quite well since I made Cepheid a dragoon instead. Lower damage output per turn, but better defensive capabilities.
23:21 <ADragonDreaming> Spears are for footmen.
23:21 <ADragonDreaming> LANCES are for horse.
23:21 <Schism> Okay, okay. Mount and Lance, then.
23:21 <ADragonDreaming> Well. Blade too.
23:21 <ADragonDreaming> Sometimes you get stuck in.
23:21 <Cepheid> Nah. Far as I know this is the first game to explicitly ask you to kill a FOE.
23:23 <Schism> Huh!
23:24 <Schism> Hmm. Rare Breed, vs. Toxipede...
23:24 <Cepheid> Rare breeds are easy.
23:25 <Cepheid> They are slightly upstatted variants that give out 5 times as much EXP.
23:25 <Cepheid> And yes, rare breed FOEs exist.
23:26 <Cepheid> Actually quite profitable. Rare breeds generally run away after one or two turns. They always go first, too. Rare breed FOEs do not run.
23:27 <Cepheid> That said, for every turn a rare breed stays in battle, it gets a full stat buff every turn. Rare breed FOEs are profitable, But you need to destroy then fast.
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23:29 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> I recently beaten God Of War's Story.
23:36 <The_Nostalgia_Mare> o3o I luv it.
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23:42 <ADragonDreaming> I have nae a playstation.
23:44 * The_Nostalgia_Mare noms ADragonDreaming.
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23:55 <Starlight_Glimmer> Am I imaging things or are these EqD posts getting exceedingly naughty
23:57 <Ali> They had a derp a few days ago why Starlight_Glimmer?
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