00:03 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Ponyage Chronicles - Pony MMORPG Update Videoa and Test Event [ http://tinyurl.com/ybmda6ps ]
00:05 * Schism saves briefly in Plurkwood. Schism is not going to COMPLETE Plurkwood right now.
00:14 <Cepheid> Starting to think cmake is a better choice.
00:21 * Schism works on getting through the darkened forest.
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00:58 * Schism beats Miru, without using Ribbon at all. o3o
01:03 <Cepheid> Nice.
01:03 <Cepheid> Now beat ???
01:03 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Analysis: Will Tempest Shadow Return to My Little Pony? [ http://tinyurl.com/ycdbobko ]
01:06 <Schism> Indeed... hrmf. That's neat. Noah uses the attack patterns of the townsfolk you brought back.
01:06 <Schism> And ONLY their attack patterns.
01:06 <Schism> Well, plus hers, but those are easy.
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01:18 <Schism> Okay, not ONLY theirs. That's Cicini's... bleh.
01:20 <Cepheid> There we go. CMake generating build projects.
01:22 <Schism> H'okay. Noah is annoying, time for a pause there.
01:23 <Schism> Cepheid: Did you know that the item Mr. Tako gives you, at the end of Plurkwood, counts against 0%?
01:23 <Cepheid> Yes.
01:23 <Schism> Therefore, you must backtrack through the whole area. o-o
01:24 <PinkieShy> Streaming if any wants to watch :)
01:24 <PinkieShy> Playing Life is strange over @ Twitch.tv/coolmariodude
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01:47 <DashedRainbows> PinkieShy: I followed you
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01:54 <Cepheid> Blah...
01:54 <Cepheid> I'm feeling weird. Dizzy and my head feels like it's ballooned up a bit.
02:03 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Nightly Discussion #1492 [ http://tinyurl.com/yay3nn8f ]
02:09 <RazorSharpFang> Morning
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02:13 <Cepheid> Morning RazorSharpFang.
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02:13 <Cepheid> Hmm. 10:13 AM or so. Yeah, that'd be morning for you.
02:15 <RazorSharpFang> Yep yep.
02:15 <RazorSharpFang> I had a nice warm cup of broth for breakfast, alongside a cup of porrige.
02:18 <filly`coco> broth sounds good
02:18 <RazorSharpFang> I've been quite enjoying cups of broth for breakfast in addition to my porridge - especially in the winter, the warm cups are so good.
02:18 <Cepheid> Meanwhile, I need to drink water. Like, right now.
02:19 <filly`coco> I bet.
02:28 * Schism is making a bunch of rigatoni with some spicy sausage and peppers in tomato sauce.
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02:43 <Cepheid> So this is annoying. Despite the fact that I am managing to achieve various goals and progress, my mind *STILL* believes it can't succeed.
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02:53 <Schism> Cepheid: Wisconsin health and safety regulations are occasionally peculiar. https://i.imgur.com/fGjta8T.png
02:54 <Cepheid> Heh.
02:54 * Schism also hugs the Cepheid. "Hate when a mind gets locked in a failure state."
02:55 <Cepheid> I'd add in "Surströmming" to the list.
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02:55 <Schism> No, no. These are items which are not toxic.
02:56 <Cepheid> Surstromming isn't toxic. Just really bad-smelling.
02:57 <Schism> I know, I know.
03:02 <Cepheid> Hum, I wonder if this is a safe use of move mechanics in C++11.
03:03 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Season 7 DVD Now Listed on Amazon [ http://tinyurl.com/ydctqwq9 ]
03:04 <Cepheid> Only one way to find out! :D
03:07 <Schism> Lions in Africa decided to nom on the most dangerous snack: at least two rhino poachers were eaten thereby.
03:07 <Schism> (Come to Kenya, we've got lions!)
03:08 <Schism> ( http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-07-06/two-rhino-poachers-eaten-by-lions-in-south-africa/9947302 )
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03:41 <Cepheid> Got my code working, but it seems the shader is garbage in terms of performance. GLSL is fun, boys and girls.
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03:51 <Cepheid> So, basically it works, but is slow as molasses.
03:57 <Cepheid> According to my understanding, this may just be a side effect of my laptop being a piece of garbage and not being able to do full-screen fragment shaders.
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04:03 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by ExplodingPonyToast: Bonus Music #137 [ http://tinyurl.com/yamd777h ]
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04:09 * DashedRainbows licks Cepheid cuz he loves it :p
04:27 <Cepheid> I got one cat behind my head, and one cat to my right.
04:29 <Cepheid> Aaaand that's int for working tonight.
04:30 <Cepheid> My sinuses have decided it's time to wallow in agony.
04:37 <Cepheid> Hmm. I just devised quite possibly the craziest idea I've ever had.
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04:42 <Thelema5> Hello everypony
04:42 <Cepheid> Hey.
04:45 <Thelema5> How are you doing, Cepheid?
04:45 <Cepheid> Not too bad. Problem solving.
04:46 <Cepheid> Got a headache coming on though, so trying to get problem solving done before it hits.
04:47 <Cepheid> Hum, so the limiting factor appears to quite literally be the size of the array.
04:48 <Thelema5> Hope you work it out.
04:53 <Cepheid> Well, to be honest, that this works is impressive. The alternative approach is probably slower. *Tests anyways.*
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04:55 <PinkieShy> Might be waxing my legs soon ^_^
04:55 <PinkieShy> Going to probably buy this Nair wax kit :3
04:55 <PinkieShy> In attempt to try to slowdown the very fast hair regrowth >.>
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04:57 * DashedRainbows licks Thelema5
04:58 * PinkieShy licks DashedRainbows
04:59 * Thelema5 tastes of wood-fired oven pizza
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04:59 <PinkieShy> I shaved Thursday and my legs are already back Pricky..
05:00 <PinkieShy> Wish they could stay smooth longer lol but waxing might do that for me.
05:00 <DashedRainbows> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/435270091614191626/465363825667997696/Hallelujah_2.aac
05:01 * DashedRainbows licks PinkieShy back
05:02 <DashedRainbows> How is the Thelema5 today?
05:03 <Thelema5> Okay. I went to see that biopic about Mister Rogers tonight
05:03 <Thelema5> It was touching
05:03 <DashedRainbows> Still employed?
05:03 <Thelema5> So far.
05:04 <Thelema5> I have to go in to the shop on Monday, which means another trip to hippie-land
05:04 <DashedRainbows> Far out dude!
05:04 <Thelema5> Totally
05:05 * DashedRainbows actually tastes good today
05:05 <DashedRainbows> Emotions are weird
05:05 <DashedRainbows> Drugs, dude
05:06 <PinkieShy> What's Wrong with Hippies?
05:09 <Thelema5> Nothing. I just work for a company based in Woodstock, the hippie center of the universe
05:09 <Thelema5> Every time I have to go in to the physical shop it feels like entering another world
05:10 <Thelema5> Drum circles on the village green, people fancy-dancing, open marijauna use...
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05:12 <Thelema5> Like, far out man
05:12 <DashedRainbows> That last one is so far out
05:12 <DashedRainbows> Like totally dude
05:15 <DashedRainbows> Medical cannabis is legal in Puerto Rico!
05:15 <DashedRainbows> I'm totally visiting
05:15 <PinkieShy> Hippies can be like totes gnarly and so far out like Whoa.
05:15 <Cepheid> Okay, annoyingly, this approach I devised is slow as molasses, and the older approach is much, much faster. I was hoping to use this new approach to handle "caps" of the lines.
05:16 <Cepheid> DashedRainbows: It's gonna be legal in Canada this October, as well.
05:16 <DashedRainbows> Yeah but to me that's not relevant yet
05:17 <DashedRainbows> Once I have a reason to go yeah
05:17 * Cepheid devises an absolutely stupid idea that should solve his problem and keep it performant.
05:17 <Thelema5> Recreational marijuana is legal in Maine, where I'm going in a few weeks
05:17 <DashedRainbows> Lucky pone
05:18 <Cepheid> My parents are planning to bring back some recreational stuff when they visit my sister next. They want to see how it works on me. >_>;
05:19 <DashedRainbows> Radical
05:21 <Cepheid> Hum. Now that I think about it, this approach may be slow as molasses, but at a thin enough width, the performance is fine. And utilizing it as it is, it solves a complicated problem I had to deal with regarding the "old" approach.
05:21 <Cepheid> I'd better hold onto this code.
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05:23 * DashedRainbows hugs Thelema5
05:26 * Thelema5 counterhugs!
05:26 <PinkieShy> I used something like Avon skin so soft the other day when i shaved :3
05:27 <PinkieShy> It made my legs shiny.. It really did what the bottle says.. Made my skin soft XD
05:27 <DashedRainbows> I do feel a little dull sigh
05:29 <Thelema5> PinkieShy, they say that stuff keep mosquitoes away, too
05:30 <PinkieShy> Thelema5 I might not be able to use it when i start DIY waxing ready to wax strips stuff.
05:31 <PinkieShy> Cause i think they say waxing irratates the skin a bit.. and I don't think oil would be wise lol
05:32 <Thelema5> Waxing sounds painfull
05:32 <Thelema5> *painful
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05:33 <PinkieShy> Thelema5 How else can I weaken the folicle to make shaving last more than just a day.. >.>
05:33 <PinkieShy> I don't want my legs to be pricky after just a day.. lol
05:34 <PinkieShy> I'd be happy if i could get it to the point i only have to shave every 3-5 days :3
05:34 <DashedRainbows> I just don't shave at all. There :p
05:35 <Thelema5> Me either
05:35 <Thelema5> PinkieShy, after waxing a few times they say the hair takes longer to grow back
05:37 * DashedRainbows sniffs Thelema5. I want pizza too
05:38 <PinkieShy> I feel i need to shave my legs
05:38 <PinkieShy> It looks better :3
05:43 <Thelema5> I used to shave mine too... but it got to be too much work
05:43 * Thelema5 is a lazy pone
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05:47 * DashedRainbows rides Thelema5 off into the sunset
05:47 <DashedRainbows> Good night
05:48 <Shed-34046> My legs used to be like crazy itchy after running a little far.. Shaving fixed that :3
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05:50 <DashedRainbows> Giddy up horsey!
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05:54 <PinkieShy> hm?
05:57 <Cepheid> So, I devised a new solution that removes alpha transparency(Bah, who needs that?), but is several times faster.
06:05 <Cepheid> Oooof course it has glitches
06:10 <RazorSharpFang> Gah, I incurred a bluescreen whilst playing Factorio...
06:15 <Thelema5> Ooh nooo
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06:16 <ConfusionRift> Hello everypony.
06:17 * ConfusionRift flops and breaks into parts.
06:18 <Cepheid> Morning.
06:21 * ConfusionRift waves.
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07:03 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Lyra and Bon Bon Day Begins! [ http://tinyurl.com/yabok7bx ]
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07:25 <Cepheid> Such a simple concept. Such a needlessly complex solution.
07:26 <ConfusionRift> It's like when you're taking your first IT class and they ask you to just make a problem that you press a button, changes color, and then closes. That algorithm is NOT three lines big. :P
07:28 <Cepheid> Heh.
07:30 <Cepheid> What I'm trying to do is make an implementation-agnostic 2D line renderer that maintains scale when you change the zoom factor, while allowing for variable widths.
07:30 <Cepheid> I found an approach that "works" but it's slow when the line with exceeds 7 pixels.
07:35 <ConfusionRift> If I get this right... you want the object to remain the same scale, regardless of zoom factor. But still want its width to change at will?
07:37 <Cepheid> The lines to stay the same scale regardless of zoom, while the objects scale up and down in size accordingly.
07:37 <ConfusionRift> Ooooh, I get it.
07:38 <Cepheid> See, the problem is I can't simply use "glLineWidth". Because Khronos is run by a bunch of morons when it comes to simple things.
07:38 <Cepheid> Implementations are only required to implement a line width of 1. Anything else is entirely implementation-dependent.
07:38 <Cepheid> Including the level of accuracy of the line width specifier.
07:39 <Cepheid> So for example, ATI hardware might support a line width of 2.1, because it has an accuracy of 0.1. nVidia hardware might have an accuracy of 0.2, so it won't be able to use a line width of 2.1.
07:39 <Cepheid> And trust me, this kind of stuff happens.
07:40 <Cepheid> My video card on my PC last I checked was 0.125. Last time I saw AMD hardware, it was 0.15. This intel IGP? No idea.
07:40 <Cepheid> But given it's relative weakness, I'm not expecting it to support anything other than 1.
07:41 <Cepheid> 3D hardware is not designed to render lines.
07:48 <Cepheid> Hmm.
07:50 <Cepheid> I have a few other ideas, but I'm spent for the evening I think. Been working on this for several hours now. I have a working solution, it's not the fastest but it gets the job done. I'll repo this, then branch and try some other ideas another day.
07:51 <ConfusionRift> That would be the better bet, and probably try out other possible solutions as you go. Save and duplicate! Document document document~!
07:52 <Cepheid> Truth told, I may even be asking too much of my laptop. Based on other "bloom" filters I'm seeing, what I'm doing shouldn't be that difficult for hardware. And yet this laptop struggles with it at certain settings.
07:53 <Cepheid> Fortunately, the line thickness I desire runs perfectly fine, so... perhaps I shouldn't waste any more time on it.
07:54 <ConfusionRift> What was your laptop again? If you don't mind me asking.
07:57 <Cepheid> ASUS Zenbook Pro, UX303LA. Uses an Intel HD Graphics 4400 IGP.
08:02 <Cepheid> Hmm.
08:02 <ConfusionRift> Seems to not be... very good, at least for anything too intense.
08:04 <ConfusionRift> "The GPU now supports DirectX 11.1, OpenCL 1.2 and OpenGL 4.0."
08:04 <Cepheid> Heh.
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08:14 <ConfusionRift> The Beginner's Guide... hmmmm.
08:15 <Cepheid> Easiest, most-compatible approach) Screw it, don't bother with thick lines. Next easiest approach, but limited because it requires CPU math) Calculate vertices for quads, creating rectangles in the place of lines. Next approach, but support concerns) Geometry shaders. This can solve SO. MUCH. Next approach) What I got now.
08:19 <Cepheid> Hum.
08:21 <Cepheid> According to the OpenGL GPUinfo.org website, 70% of the 2,687 reports support ARB_geometry_shader4. 88% support vertex/fragment shaders. That said, I know for a fact that my laptop can't pull off GLSL 3.30.
08:22 <Cepheid> ... I have been proven wrong according to glxinfo.
08:22 <Cepheid> "OpenGL core profile shading language version: 4.50"
08:23 <ConfusionRift> Thing is, it sounds like you are indeed choking your processor with what you're trying to do... but it can support up to 4k? How is that?
08:23 <Cepheid> I am legitimately hesitant to use anything above OpenGL 2.1 though, because Linux fanbase.
08:23 <Cepheid> And Mac fanbase.
08:23 <ConfusionRift> Or maybe it's more of a CAN, rather than a SHOULD.
08:24 <Cepheid> It can, yeah. It won't run really well, and in fact may even be limited to like, 30Hz, but it can.
08:24 <RazorSharpFang> Isn't mac deprecating OpenGL?
08:24 <Cepheid> Yeah, they are.
08:24 <Cepheid> They're deprecating it for Metal, their own proprietary API.
08:25 <ConfusionRift> Proprietary, of course.
08:25 <Cepheid> I'd toy with Vulkan, but that support is broken on my laptop's GPU.
08:28 <Cepheid> Intel only made an effort to support newer generations of processors. Mine's outside the range they support for Vulkan.
08:29 <Cepheid> So, my best bets are "screw it", "geometry shaders" and "what I got which is slow."
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08:30 <ConfusionRift> Hmmmm.
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08:32 <Cepheid> Honestly, I'm inclined to scrap this setup I have, and use a geometry shader. If geometry shaders aren't supported, I fall back to OpenGL default line rendering.
08:33 <ConfusionRift> You can always go with the "effective, but slow" and later optimize as you figure ways to trim it.
08:34 <ConfusionRift> That tooooo. The easier to go approach, but might have to redo thing.
08:34 <Cepheid> Not that much actually.
08:35 <Cepheid> If anything, what I have implemented now, aside from the GLSL files, is re-usable.
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08:36 <Cepheid> The thing that slows it down is having to touch a number of texels, usually a high number, in order to achieve the desired effect.
08:37 <Cepheid> Problem is, the more texels I poke at, the worse the performance.
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08:39 <ConfusionRift> Well, yeah. As I mentioned, your GPU does not look that great for this, and considering it's integrated graphics, much less so. You would later have it struggling with memory and calls.
08:39 <Cepheid> Mmhmm.
08:40 <Cepheid> A discrete GPU would fare better by a long shot, probably.
08:40 <Cepheid> Looks like the earliest GLSL version required for geometry shaders is 1.50
08:41 <Cepheid> Which pretty much most hardware from 2008 or so and beyond supports.
08:41 <Cepheid> I think even a Raspberry PI supports it.
08:42 <ConfusionRift> I think so too, considering what it can do.
08:43 <ConfusionRift> I just love when everyone keeps insisting that Win 10 can run fine with 4GB of RAM.
08:43 <RazorSharpFang> It can run fine if you do nothing else than bring up a terminal window.
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08:44 <ConfusionRift> Not even that. It runs fine on full idle... in safe mode. :P
08:44 <Cepheid> Huh. Raspberry PI 3 only supports OGL 2.1
08:44 <RazorSharpFang> I tried Win10 on 1.5GB of DDR1 ram, and it wouldn't even install.
08:44 <Cepheid> As of 2016, that is.
08:46 <Cepheid> In any case, for PC purposes, GLSL 1.50 is pretty much expected to be supported.
08:46 <ConfusionRift> My other laptop had 4GB of RAM. Upgraded it to Win 10 during the free update mess, and had to revert back to 7. It was dying.
08:47 <Cepheid> My laptop does not play well with Windows 10.
08:47 <Cepheid> It originally came with Windows 8.1, which I suspect is the only version that'll run properly on it.
08:48 <ConfusionRift> Many systems don't, especially older ones.
08:49 <ConfusionRift> Unfortunately, if you're building a new system you kinda got no choice.
08:49 <Cepheid> For myself, I do have a choice. o3o
08:49 <Cepheid> I have non-OEM copies of Windows 7.
08:49 <ConfusionRift> Lucky yooooouuuu.
08:49 * ConfusionRift grumbles.
08:50 <Cepheid> I bought two for the express purpose of ensuring that I always have at least two devices that'll be able to run it side-by-side, etc.
08:50 <ConfusionRift> Actually, for example, my HTPC refused to run anything but a recent flavor of Linux or Win 10.
08:52 <ConfusionRift> But meh, it's fine for what I wanted it for.
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08:54 <Cepheid> Heh.
08:55 <Cepheid> Okay, I've seen cats do stupid stuff, but this just takes the cake.
08:55 <Cepheid> Spitfire tried to eat the lint from the lint trap of my dryer.
08:55 <ConfusionRift> ...huh?
08:55 <ConfusionRift> That's not goooood.
08:56 <Cepheid> Yeah.
08:56 <Cepheid> Started sniffing at it while I was emptying the dryer and folding clothes haphazardly.
08:56 <Cepheid> Then the next thing I know he starts licking it.
09:03 * Cepheid does some quick research on geometry shaders to see how to use them.
09:04 <Cepheid> Seems pretty straightforward.
09:11 <ConfusionRift> Guh, have to crash asleep. Laters!
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09:31 <RazorSharpFang> It's so annoying, twitter's starting giving me notifications of sports games.
09:31 <Cepheid> I've noticed that too.
09:31 <Cepheid> And it ignores my attempts to silence it.
09:31 <RazorSharpFang> There's a "See less often" button, but no option to opt-out.
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09:36 <Cepheid> Anyways, I need to sleep myself, so I'm gonna head off.
09:36 <RazorSharpFang> Good night
10:03 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Lyyyyra [ http://tinyurl.com/ychu26wg ]
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11:03 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Morning Discussion #1267 [ http://tinyurl.com/ycbdq23g ]
11:05 <Schism> Lyyyyyyyra, that kills people...!
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12:03 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Lyra and Bon Bon Day Discussion - Head Canons, Favorite Moments, and More [ http://tinyurl.com/yasgbkm8 ]
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12:08 <Flame_Strike> Hi
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12:51 <Starlight_Glimmer> Oh dear: "Watch the Thai soccer team rescue live on our stream" No thanks
12:51 <Starlight_Glimmer> I mean sure I'm glad they make progress but I'd rather not see it exploited as much as a media sensation
13:03 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Pony Plushie Compilation #279 [ http://tinyurl.com/ya4qojyv ]
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15:21 <LibrarianofHope> Hi
15:22 <LibrarianofHope> Morning
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16:03 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by ExplodingPonyToast: Music: Chang31ing - 4DaPlot (feat. mycutiemarkisagun) [Breaks] [ http://tinyurl.com/yb4xt8bk ]
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17:03 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: 50+ Of the Best Fanfics to Read for Lyra and Bonbon Day! [ http://tinyurl.com/yawffpg2 ]
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18:04 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Comic: Gemmed 19 / Lost and Found 2 / Pink 1 / Shifting 40 / Crusader 4 / TWD 4 / Pone Wars 6:8 / Rogue 11:7 [ http://tinyurl.com/y7lj8coo ]
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19:04 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: 63 Awesome Lyra and Bonbon Plushies! [ http://tinyurl.com/ybnk8lxw ]
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19:43 <PinkieShy> Hi.
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20:04 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Sunset Shimmer Build a Bear Plushie in Person [ http://tinyurl.com/y8fw3afw ]
20:07 <Starlight_Glimmer> https://joinedtheherd.bandcamp.com/track/one-small-thing-jth-remix
20:08 <Starlight_Glimmer> The original is great, this is even better ;)
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20:26 <PinkieShy> One of my 2 dogs is getting medicine treatments soon..
20:26 <PinkieShy> As soon as tomorrow.
20:26 <PinkieShy> Something bad and it has me scared, but i know she'll get through it
20:36 * filly`coco hugs
20:55 * Starlight_Glimmer encloses PinkieShy in a tight hug
20:56 <PinkieShy> She has worms.. So yeah.. something major..
21:04 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Bronies React: Season 8 Premiere (School Daze) [ http://tinyurl.com/yd8lxzz5 ]
21:18 <Schism> Worms, at least, can be dealt with, with just some medication.
21:31 <Starlight_Glimmer> See and I thought you raise them and train 'em with Holy Hand Grenades - silly me
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21:34 <Starlight_Glimmer> The dog of my uncle started getting something that looked somewhat like epileptic shocks with 14. In the beginning at least he'd recover from them, but after a year he would just lie down and not move anymore.
21:36 <Starlight_Glimmer> In the end they decided they can no longer watch him suffer and put him down. They knew that in the end that's what they'd have to do, but of course delayed it quite a bit.
21:36 <filly`coco> Yeah worms are not a huge deal just give them the medicine and they'll be fine
21:36 <Starlight_Glimmer> Not a decision I envy them for
21:38 <filly`coco> We had a dog that had seizures before.
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22:44 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Nicki Minaj Rockin a G1 Swim Suit in New Music Video [ http://tinyurl.com/ycr5vzqs ]
23:04 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Drawfriend Stuff Pony Art Gallery - BEST OF LYRA AND BONBON 2018 Edition [ http://tinyurl.com/ya52763z ]
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23:21 <Cepheid> Gots me an interesting experiment tonight.
23:21 <Moongoodboy{K}> :o ?
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23:22 <Cepheid> Nothing spectacular. Geometry shader stuffs.
23:27 <Schism> Dinner tonight, I think... grilled cheese with lightly sauteed onions, and tomato soup.
23:28 <Cepheid> I'm starting to think the nasal spray is ineffective during the summer due to a combination of humidity and hayfever allergen.
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23:43 <Cepheid> https://i.redd.it/zi8clnpxxr811.jpg Especially when the "correct" way to do things is to give them meaningful names relevant to their purpose, and sometimes that involves like, two or three words.
23:43 *** Parts: filly`coco (coco@Pony-ap8dnm.res.rr.com) ("https://tinyurl.com/ycampat7")
23:44 <Cepheid> See, a common problem in programming is overly-long lines and class names. Java developers especially are aware of this problem.
23:44 <Schism> That's what CamelCaps are for.
23:44 <Cepheid> Oh, you misunderstand.
23:44 <Cepheid> The more words, the longer the variable name.
23:44 <Schism> Ah, well, true.
23:45 <Cepheid> And for an insanely stupid reason, we're encouraged to keep line lengths less than or equal to 80 characters.
23:45 <Schism> Gotta be able to read the text on a 120-character line length.
23:45 <Schism> Heh, or 80.
23:46 <Schism> It's good practice if you want to be able to put the code up on USENET.
23:47 <Cepheid> There's only one place I can think of where you will continue to see 80x24 terminals.
23:47 <Cepheid> Well, two places.
23:47 <Cepheid> Old hardware used by companies to keep running stuff like COBOL applications or old software for machinery that has yet to be decommissioned..
23:47 <Cepheid> Ooooorrr..
23:48 <Cepheid> Hardware that isn't meant to have a terminal attached to it in the first place.
23:48 <Cepheid> In other words, equipment that supports connection of a terminal for maintenance purposes.
23:50 <Cepheid> I'm not sure about UNIX systems or BSD systems, they may not have framebuffers for high-resolutional terminals.
23:50 <Cepheid> But most Linux distros now support at least a basic framebuffer that supports higher resolution displays through VESA extensions.
23:51 <Cepheid> But if you ask me, if you're developing on hardware that doesn't support anything higher than 80x24 consoles, you're doing something wrong.
23:52 <Cepheid> Developing on a console is fine, as there are some impressive console applications for editing text files, source and so on. emacs, vi/vim, and so on. But if you're restricting yourself to 80x24, you're being silly.
23:55 <Cepheid> ... So, in other news.
23:55 <Cepheid> A man was found dead in the ceiling of a hospital room.
23:59 <Schism> When was this?
23:59 <Cepheid> Just recently. https://www.reddit.com/r/nottheonion/comments/8x4ucl/patient_found_dead_in_hospital_ceiling/
23:59 <Cepheid> Oh, wait, that's the reddit post.
23:59 <Cepheid> https://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/patient-found-dead-in-hospital-ceiling-20171023 Here's the news article.
23:59 <Schism> Yeah, story's from October of last year.
23:59 <Cepheid> Oh, wait. That was- Yeah.
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