00:00 <Schism> David Davis, Brexit Secretary in the UK, has resigned from his position.
00:01 <Cepheid> Heh.
00:04 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Drawfriend Stuff - BEST OF LYRA AND BONBON - Humanized and Anthro Edition [ http://tinyurl.com/ybmnxenm ]
00:04 <Cepheid> So, first order 'o business, implement geometry shaders in my code.
00:04 <Schism> This is a little frightening. https://medium.com/s/futurehuman/survival-of-the-richest-9ef6cddd0cc1 - What is the thought on the minds of the ultra-wealthy? How to escape from society once the pillars start collapsing.
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00:10 <Cepheid> Frightening, but expected.
00:11 <Schism> https://twitter.com/SwiftOnSecurity/status/1016095056770543617
00:12 <Schism> And Cepheid: https://twitter.com/GalaxyKate/status/1015648961325981696
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00:13 <Cepheid> Heh.
00:13 <Schism> '"Printer = Nondeterministic Printer" seems pretty unassailable to me.'
00:15 <Cepheid> I'll admit that I appear complacent about various social problems, and I will admit I am complacent about some issues, but a lot of the reason behind my behaviour stems from a fact that "What do you want me to do, fly over to the location of the problem and yell at someone until it's fixed?" I am not a debater, I will never be a debater. Same goes for being an activist. I am not the type of person these kinds of groups want.
00:16 <Cepheid> I am easily riled, and because of that, I am an easy target to make a group look bad. I'm better off working behind the public scenery to make things better.
00:16 * Schism nodnods.
00:17 <Cepheid> So, from my perspective? The best thing I can do is make games to keep others in a good mood, or make applications/tools that make the lives of those trying to make things better easier.
00:20 * Schism noddles.
00:20 <Schism> So, Cepheid. You'll like this.
00:20 <Schism> A recently published article explores the nature of 'open' workspaces in jobs and the like, and finds that stuffing everyone into a big open area without any privacy or peace of mind turns out to be incredibly detrimental on their work and mental stability.
00:22 <Schism> Also, 'In short, rather than prompting increasingly vibrant face-to-face collaboration, open architecture appeared to trigger a natural human response to socially withdraw from officemates and interact instead over email and IM.'
00:23 <Cepheid> Yep.
00:23 <Cepheid> I am aware of that problem due to college/university.
00:24 <Cepheid> I generally can't code in an open room with others.
00:24 <Cepheid> Because I feel compelled to talk to others. It distracts me, and after a while can also frustrate me because I can't focus, among other issues.
00:25 * Schism nodnods once more. "The lack of focus, that's the big one for me. When there are fifty different things going on at once..."
00:25 <Cepheid> It happens even in smaller groups of 10-15.
00:25 <Cepheid> There's a room on my campus, a social room for CS students.
00:26 <Cepheid> I visited it a lot during the first and second semesters.
00:26 <Cepheid> I stopped after that though because the noise was just too much.
00:26 <Cepheid> It was distracting me, impacting my focus, and on top of that? Ear fatigue.
00:26 <Schism> Eee, yeah.
00:27 <Cepheid> And what does ear fatigue do for me? Makes my ears feel like there's something pressing up against them. It also causes my right ear to stop functioning.
00:29 <Cepheid> I got involved in a discussion on Twitter that's likely going to get me in trouble.
00:32 <Schism> Hooboy. Whatsat?
00:32 <Cepheid> Basicaly about physics of various parts of the human body, and how they are misrepresented in games. I argued that the best way to approach research of the subject material would be to employ/ask politely women and/or men who actively enjoy showing off their bodies for artistic purposes.
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00:32 <Cepheid> Since ye know, staring at people walking around and such is a bit less ethical.
00:32 <Cepheid> And creepy.
00:33 <Schism> Hm. Seems acceptable.
00:33 <Cepheid> The alternative is watching TV shows, which a counter-arguer made, which is also a valid approach.
00:34 <Cepheid> My arguement is backed by the fact that I follow a few people on Twitter who do exactly what it is I stated.
00:35 <Schism> Heck, folks pose in art classes and the like all the time. It's sane, to be honest.
00:35 <Cepheid> They dress and show themselves off on Twitter and at conventions in *VERY* skimpy outfits. They do it because they enjoy it, and because they can earn money from it through donations.
00:35 <Cepheid> Most of the ones I follow on Twitter are advocates for it, to boot.
00:37 <Cepheid> So I mean yeah, sure. It's a good idea to be polite and not stare at people's junk or other assets as we're out and about. But at the same time, there are people who *WANT* us to do that. We can't you know, ignore them in favour of another group.
00:38 <Cepheid> The only problem is, people would, and can, use my argument as a slippery-slope argument.
00:40 <Schism> Cepheid: So you're saying that everyone's going to use your words as a slippery slope, is that right? You're saying that maybe tongues should start getting removed, huh?! How dare you!
00:40 <Cepheid> Heh. :P
00:40 <Schism> But yeah, people will be people. :<
00:41 <Cepheid> I analyze too deeply into problems. That's another reason why I stay quiet.
00:41 <Cepheid> "If I say X, then it's possible that someone will twist what I say and argue that I also say Y, Z and A,"
00:41 <Cepheid> "And if they say Y, Z and A, my life will be ruined, etc, etc, etc."
00:42 * Schism mms. :<
00:42 * Schism raises an eyebrow at another article, too. (Sorry, his mind's currently set on shuffle.) It asks why millenials aren't joining country clubs.
00:43 <Cepheid> We're ruining everything according to the media.
00:44 <Schism> But yeah, Cepheid, definitely can't blame you for being leery in that regard.
00:44 * Schism nomfs some avocado toast.
00:45 <Cepheid> I'm able to think for myself. I just choose not to express my thoughts because let's be honest.
00:45 <Cepheid> People are a-holes, and if the right thoughts are expressed, will choose to ruin a person's life rather than just go on with their lives.
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01:08 <Cepheid> Hum. I can't get an OpenGL 3.2 with compatibility context to be created..
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01:12 <Cepheid> Strange. 3.0 works just fine, but 3.2 or 3.3 fail.
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01:19 <Cepheid> ... So glxinfo reports a core profile version of 4.5. But also reports OpenGL 3.0.
01:20 <Cepheid> Switch to Core Profile, OpenGL 3.2, and I get proper function. My guess is that compatibility profile only works for 3.0.
01:20 <Cepheid> Hmm.
01:24 * Filly_Nightmares floofs up at Cepheid
01:24 <Filly_Nightmares> I dunno what else I could use my 1080 Ti for!
01:24 <Filly_Nightmares> o3o
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01:29 <Cepheid> GLXBadFBConfig. Unusual error.
01:33 <Cepheid> Ooooh...
01:33 <Cepheid> "Max compat profile version: 3.0"
01:34 <Cepheid> So I can't use a compatibility profile version of OpenGL 3.2.
01:35 <Cepheid> Which means my code needs some work.
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02:03 <Cepheid> Let's see. Set up some matrices... what is the order I need again..?
02:04 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Nightly Discussion #1493 [ http://tinyurl.com/y9nr3d8x ]
02:04 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: The School of Friendship is in Session - Check Out These Guests Coming to EFNW 2019! [ http://tinyurl.com/ydyzo6h4 ]
02:04 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by MarvelandPonder: Editorial: Pony Pride and What to Make of It [ http://tinyurl.com/y7l7j96e ]
02:04 <Cepheid> If I recall, it was... model, view, projection.
02:20 * Cepheid makes some tomato soup with tobasco sauce, worcestershire sauce, ground white pepper, and the brine of a jar of sliced jalapenos.
02:21 <Cepheid> Sinuses are acting up. I concocted something that'll likely burn the insides of my stomach.
02:28 <Cepheid> Oh gods that is strong.
02:29 <Cepheid> Missing something. *Adds Sriracha sauce*
02:30 <Cepheid> Hoo theres the kick.
02:40 <Cepheid> It burned going down. That, combined with a bit of self-induced sneezing has lead to a nose that's cleaner than a clean room.
02:50 <Stormspark> hm
02:50 <Stormspark> actually
02:50 <Stormspark> that sounds pretty good
02:50 <Stormspark> I'm gonna have to try that sometime
02:51 <Stormspark> not exactly like that
02:51 <Stormspark> but maybe add dave's insanity sauce to soup
02:52 <Cepheid> That might be a bit much.
02:52 <Cepheid> I usually dilute the soup. Instead of a single can(It's concentrated soup from Campbells), I do a can and a half.
03:10 <Cepheid> Heh. TV was left on a random channel for me.
03:10 <Cepheid> I just witnessed the beating of Loki by The Hulk.
03:18 <Stormspark> puny god
03:21 <Stormspark> that was a pretty awesome scene
03:34 <Cepheid> It is, yeah.
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04:04 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Lyra and Bonbon Day - Open Art Compilation! [ http://tinyurl.com/ybhaqrrt ]
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04:13 <Thelema5> Hello everypony
04:20 * DashedRainbows pins Thelema5 to the ground an licks
04:20 * Stormspark thinks it's almost bedtime
04:21 <Cepheid> That was trickier than I recall it being. Gonna have to fix up a lot of my classes to make it easier to work with OpenGL 3.2..
04:24 * Thelema5 waves hi to DashedRainbows, Stormspark and Cepheid
04:24 <Thelema5> Whatcha working on, Cepheid?
04:25 * Stormspark wingwaves
04:25 <Stormspark> sleepily
04:25 <Thelema5> G'night?
04:25 <Stormspark> almost, not quite yet, 10 minutes or so
04:25 <DashedRainbows> Thelema5! Seen my only two YouTube videos? They're speedpaints
04:29 <Cepheid> More of the same. REndering stuffs and experimentation.
04:29 <Thelema5> DashedRainbows, link?
04:30 <DashedRainbows> https://youtu.be/B9J7hMIdb98
04:30 <DashedRainbows> https://youtu.be/IlgB2dVu_uw
04:31 <Stormspark> ok now I think it's bedtime, night everyone
04:31 <DashedRainbows> Gn
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04:34 <Thelema5> Great job with the videos, DashedRainbows
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04:37 <DashedRainbows> How is the Thelema5?
04:40 <Thelema5> I'm okay. Went to see one of my favorite performers today in a really small venue, talked to her a bit, it was awesome.
04:41 <Thelema5> She's like, one of my favorite people on the planet
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04:50 <Thelema5> !link https://youtu.be/OlMaqVAiTMM
04:50 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Kimya Dawson - Simple Folk Radio Session
04:50 <Cepheid> I got a geometry shader up and running, but I'm having trouble. Passing variables from vertex shader stage to fragment shader stage. Hmm..
04:52 * DashedRainbows ponies around. Could never do c++ too lazy
04:55 * DashedRainbows sniffs Thelema5 hmm folky
05:00 <Cepheid> Oh, this isn't just C++. It's GLSL.
05:00 <DashedRainbows> Even worse
05:02 <Cepheid> Agreed.
05:02 <Cepheid> It's like playing with a child who knows how to do a bunch of stuff, but isn't smart enough to understand anything I want it to do.
05:03 <Thelema5> DashedRainbows, Kimya Dawson's career got off from being part of the antifolk art-creative hotbed The Moldy Peaches. They were the Velvet underground of the early 2000's
05:03 <Cepheid> And then there are the cats nearby.
05:04 <Thelema5> !link https://youtu.be/Dj_Fuu8TwvY
05:04 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.
05:04 <DashedRainbows> Ooh antifolky
05:05 <Thelema5> Not only was their album hugely influential with other musicians, they disrupted the industry... all of the members went on to have successfull underground careers. They're legends in some circles.
05:07 <DashedRainbows> Why am I always sad? Sigh
05:07 <DashedRainbows> Today was ok I guess
05:08 <DashedRainbows> Not particularly bad nor good
05:08 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about The Moldy Peaches - Lucky Number Nine
05:08 <DashedRainbows> Wow derps
05:12 * Thelema5 hugs DashedRainbows
05:12 * DashedRainbows glomps Thelema5
05:15 <Cepheid> Oookay GLSL, what *ARE* you doing?
05:18 * DashedRainbows rides off on the lema. Yay pony ride! Good night
05:19 <Thelema5> G'night!
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05:22 <Cepheid> Go home GLSL, you're drunk.
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05:25 <Thelema5> I feel like I've hit rock bottom when I've watching POV yardsale videos at 1:30 AM
05:28 <Cepheid> 425 - 400 is 25, and I didn't forget how to do basic math, right?
05:29 <Thelema5> Seems right
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05:35 <Cepheid> Normalize seems to be broken. Keeps returning a vector with the wrong length for some inexplicable reason.
05:36 <Cyan_Spark> Well then do it yourself?
05:38 <Cyan_Spark> vector/root(vector.x * vector.x + vector.y * vector.y + vector.z * vector.z)
05:40 <Cepheid> I tried that. It too seems to fail.
05:40 <Cepheid> I don't know what the hell is going on.
05:45 <Cepheid> I need a break.
05:46 * Thelema5 breaks you off a peice of a kit-kat-bar
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05:52 * Cepheid just stares blankly as he tries something and it works as he expects. This... complicates problems.
05:53 <Thelema5> Huh
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05:54 <Cepheid> I need to understand the full pipeline. Clearly something is happening between the vertex shader and geometry shader.
05:54 <Cepheid> ...
05:54 * Cepheid smacks his head against a desk.
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06:04 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: 35 Customs, Statues, and More of Lyra and Bonbon! [ http://tinyurl.com/ya887ltx ]
06:05 * Cepheid goes to read the news for a short 5 mi- Nope. He turns around and goes to listen to music instead.
06:06 <Cepheid> ... Man, Bluesfest is hosting Foo Fighters this year. That's gonna result in a hell of a busy crowd. Hope they can handle it.
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06:12 <RazorSharpFang> Foo fighters vs Bar fighters.
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06:24 * Cepheid wanders off to take a shower.
06:43 * Cepheid wanders back.
06:48 <Cepheid> It is exactly the kind of problem I thought it was.
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06:49 <Cepheid> Vertex Shader has matrices for transformations. I apply these transforms to create correct vertex locations for the output. This works as expected.
06:49 <Cepheid> The Geometry Shader is completely unaware of these transforms, though.
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06:56 <Cepheid> Pass those transforms onto the geometry shader, apply them, and things work right.
06:58 <Cepheid> Hmm. Can the shaders be set up to work in a given order, then?
06:59 <Cepheid> The answer is "No."
07:00 <Cepheid> So the solution then is to simply create a passthrough shader for the vertex shader, and do all the final processing in the geometry shader.
07:01 <Cepheid> Which works. o3o
07:04 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Lyra and Bon Bon Day Draws to a Close [ http://tinyurl.com/ya24964g ]
07:05 * Cepheid raises a hand. "SUCCESS!"
07:06 * Schism woots! And yawns.
07:08 <Cepheid> Just need to fix up the triangle strip generation. I can never remember the order of drawing.
07:09 <Cepheid> And there we go.
07:09 <Cepheid> Now to fix up my code so all the shader stuff works as it should.
07:12 <Cepheid> I did this in a stupid way, basically: Since I was having trouble, I just opted to write pure GL code, no wrapper classes, no special stuff. Just plain old C-style GL programming. SO now I know what needs to be done in order to fix it all.
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07:28 <Cepheid> It appears someone is spewing scam emails from a university account.
07:29 <Ali> How annoying
07:30 <Cepheid> Yeah, at first I thought it might have been Google's filter futzing, but I checked the raw text information of the e-mail. It's not an official e-mail, comes from their servers though. It's just a "This e-mail failed to render properly, click here! :D" without the :D of course.
07:31 <Ali> Heh
07:51 <Cepheid> Apparently even my basic *MATRIX* class is incorrect.
07:51 <Cepheid> Creating a scale matrix is broken.
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07:53 <Cepheid> Like... What the hell? Was I drunk when I wrote this?
07:54 <Schism> Exhausted, perhaps?
07:54 <Cepheid> This is code from months ago. Maybe a year or so.
07:54 <Cepheid> So I literally don't know.
07:55 <Cepheid> Basically, a scaling matrix is a square matrix in which the diagonals are all some scaler value that indicates how much to scale THAT axis.
07:55 <Cepheid> What do I have written instead? A function that returns a matrix that scales every element in the matrix by a scaler value.
07:58 <Cepheid> There we go.
08:01 <Cepheid> Now for the real fun... can I do gradients with this?
08:02 <Cepheid> Aaahahaha it works.
08:02 <Cepheid> Sweet.
08:06 * Cepheid renders a five-dimensional cube on a 2D screen.
08:10 <Cepheid> Hmm.
08:11 <Cepheid> I can even implement capping using a geometry shader. Apparently, for GSes, there is a special primitive type called "line strip adjacency" in which the end-poont vertices of the adjacent lines are provided for consideration. Using this, and a big of linear geometry, and I can do some real fun *YAY*.
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08:11 <Cepheid> But for now, this is enough.
08:13 * Schism randomly pours Earl Grey tea into floof. And hums...
08:14 * Cepheid puts on https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfwgK3D2Lo8 for the moment to relax to.
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08:19 <ConfusionRift> Hello everypony.
08:19 <Cepheid> Hoi.
08:19 <ConfusionRift> Heh, this song. :P
08:20 <Cepheid> It's a nice song.
08:20 * Schism boops ConfusionRift with a piko hammer. Grumbles at not being able to find Cocoa or, by extension, Cicini before postgame. "Since I got that achievement, perhaps I should restart."
08:20 <Schism> (Cocoa is rather beneficial because Cocoa Bombs are a great way to take care of endgame bosses.)
08:21 <ConfusionRift> Isn't she in a set of caves near the starting grounds?
08:21 <ConfusionRift> But I think you need an upgrade.
08:21 <Schism> Normally, but for some reason getting to Lilith first seems to have scuppered her appearance.
08:22 <Schism> And no. 0% run!
08:23 <ConfusionRift> I remember some issue with Cocoa. You have to trigger certain events in an order, or she doesn't appear where you can recruit her.
08:23 <ConfusionRift> You mean 1%? :P
08:23 <Schism> No, I didn't actually get the hammer.
08:24 <Cepheid> So Cocoa stops showing up at the usual spot after a certain point?
08:24 <ConfusionRift> Weren't talking about an oddity you had with the game pointing to 17?
08:24 <Cepheid> Should be right next to the Carrot Bombs.
08:24 <ConfusionRift> 1%
08:24 <Schism> No, there was a +1 which appeared, but I'm not sure what that meant.
08:24 <Cepheid> Presumably a +1 to enemy level.
08:24 <Schism> I thought it was extra townsfolk over the required amount, but that didn't turn out to be the case. And yeah.
08:24 <ConfusionRift> That's here first appearance, near the bombs.
08:25 <Schism> I think I might have skipped that...? Maybe. Either way, she'll show up again in chapter 8 after she takes over the store in 7.
08:25 <Cepheid> Yeah, but in order to trigger the later appearance you kind of need to do the first appearance of her.
08:25 <ConfusionRift> ^
08:25 <Cepheid> You skip it if you go for Ribbon first and head towards Miss Lilith.
08:26 <Schism> Oh well, I'll get the 'forgot about Ribbon's friends!' achievement.
08:26 <Cepheid> Which you did, because you wanted to take her out first.
08:28 * Schism nods. "Gotta get Ribbon first in a 0% anyway, I think... or does Cocoa also have that automatic HP drop?"
08:28 <Cepheid> She does.
08:28 <Schism> From hunger, I can only assume.
08:28 <Cepheid> Presumably.
08:29 <Cepheid> By the way, random tidbit. The speedups of RFN III for the ??? and Irisu battles are, in order: 5% and 10%.
08:31 <Schism> And then they hit you with Slow and Giant repeatedly, slowing it -right- back down.
08:31 <Cepheid> Or, you get hit by Irisu when she has her Drain effect active.
08:31 <Cepheid> Which I think is the entire battle.
08:31 <Schism> Yah.
08:32 <Cepheid> That battle was well-choreographed. I'm surprised there's no(if not few) bugs in it at all.
08:32 * Schism nodnods!
08:34 <ConfusionRift> Friggin' "Instant Death".
08:34 <Cepheid> Personally though, it would have been served better by an entrance of a massive, impossible-geometry deep pit, with grandfather clocks, bookshelves and other items flying by in the background.
08:34 <Schism> At least it included the moon.
08:35 <Cepheid> Why the moon? *Hasn't read all the various Alice stories, but was trying to reference going down the rabbit hole.*
08:35 <Schism> Eh, moon rabbit.
08:35 <Cepheid> Heh.
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08:36 <Cepheid> The implication of her appearance is that Irisu is based on a couple of characters. One from Is the Order a Rabbit and the White Rabbit from Alice's Adventures in Wonderland..
08:37 <Schism> Oh, I know. And of course, the dress is very Alice Liddell.
08:38 <ConfusionRift> The dress, the hanging watch, the rabbit ears, and I think she did hop out few times saying she was late for something a few points.
08:39 <Cepheid> Pocket watch from the rabbit. Hairpiece from Syaro's maid outfit in Is the Order a Rabbit. And yes, the dress and stockings are reminiscent of how Alice is commonly depicted, with a different colour scheme.
08:40 <Cepheid> https://www.zerochan.net/1677093 Syaro, for comparison.
08:40 <ConfusionRift> ...how did I do this with the messed up PS3 controller?
08:40 <Cepheid> No idea.
08:41 <Cepheid> I think I'll waste the day tomorrow(tonight? Probably gonna wake up at 5 PM again) playing Rabi-Ribi.
08:41 <Schism> I know I've been playing on keyboard. Thankfully, you can focus in Rabi-Ribi.
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08:43 <ConfusionRift> Wait... I didn't notice that pattern before!
08:43 <Cepheid> The game's gone through a number of updates. I suspect some patterns have received minor changes.
08:44 <ConfusionRift> It's in the Irisu fight. Not sure if Schism already did that one.
08:44 <Cepheid> He has.
08:44 <Cepheid> We all have.
08:44 <Schism> Indeed. Though it's been long enough that I don't recall that much of it.
08:44 <ConfusionRift> Jeez, sorryyyyyy. :P
08:45 * Schism boops ConfusionRift and Cepheid with a donut. owo
08:45 <Cepheid> Each "phase" follows a set pattern of configurations, looping from the start when the configurations run out.
08:45 <Cepheid> It's unlikely, but possible to not see a configuration because you burned through a phase too quickly.
08:45 * Cepheid feeds the Rumi Donut to a nearby bunny.
08:46 <Cepheid> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ix9Fd8WemJQ
08:46 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about 3R2 - The Truth Never Spoken (Energetic Trance Mix)
08:47 <Cepheid> It's too bad we can't switch out The Truth Never Spoken for that version.
08:48 <ConfusionRift> One of her patterns is a literal spray of- oh thanks for the donut -of small blue orbs that spam the whole area. I didn't notice it sprays everywhere, except for a small cone area that avoids Erina.
08:48 <Cepheid> Yep.
08:49 <Cepheid> That one's a well-known pattern because of how chaotic it looks.
08:49 <Cepheid> When the solution for the problem is to NOT MOVE.
08:49 <Cepheid> You caught on to that faster than I did, though.
08:50 <Cepheid> The first time I defeated Irisu, I never realized that you could dodge that attack by not moving.
08:51 <ConfusionRift> "She showed up with a mini gun. How was I supposed to know her accuracy was gonna by garbage and should've stood still?!" :P
08:52 <Cepheid> But man, it's hilarious watching players go into fighting her for the first time.
08:52 <Cepheid> "I'll just dodge her net and attack- Aaaand I'm dead."
08:52 <ConfusionRift> Getting there is an ordeal on its own.
08:52 <Schism> Gotta use the amulet to prevent those debuffs. X3
08:53 <ConfusionRift> That is until she resets and does it again, not expecting it.
08:53 <Cepheid> The debuffs aren't immediately fatal. It's the whole "Net leads to giant seizure-inducing glowing orb that kills you in one shot." thing.
08:54 <ConfusionRift> Oh man, this trance version is awesome.
08:54 <Cepheid> See, the thing about Irisu though is once you know each configuration and when it shows up, it's not difficult to simply adapt to what's next ahead of time.
08:55 * Schism watches Irisu do the flop into the center of the room.
08:55 <ConfusionRift> Well, goodbye.
08:55 <Cepheid> Of course, if you have the memory of a goldfish and can't remember what happened five seconds ago you're screwed.
08:56 <Schism> Heh, yeah.
08:56 <Cepheid> Apparently the DLC adds some even crazier stuff.
08:58 <ConfusionRift> Yep, one of her debuffs is Instant Death. Wait... I kinda remember something that had to do with the No Badges debuff. I think it triggers if you have certain badges.
08:59 <Cepheid> I've seen no-badge runs where it still occurs.
08:59 <ConfusionRift> Huh...
08:59 <Cepheid> It's literally what it says on the tin. If you get hit with the status afflicting you, it's game over.
08:59 <Schism> During the Rumi fight, Instant Death applies to all of her HP bars except one -- if you're on 0%.
09:00 <Cepheid> Irisu was, for the time, the devs taking their gloves off, so to speak. Basically the usual rules of fairness go out the door.
09:00 <Schism> Also, heh. I think that's the result of one of those Bunny Amulet moves, is it not?
09:00 <Cepheid> I say "for the time" because, again, DLC.
09:00 <Schism> What, you don't think the Choco-Vanilla fight in the Halloween DLC was fair?
09:00 <Cepheid> I never did it.
09:00 <Schism> Heh. :P
09:00 <Cepheid> I haven't done the DLC, but I'm aware of the fight, so don't worry.
09:01 <Schism> I should sometime.
09:01 <Cepheid> I plan to do a full run tomorrow.
09:01 <Schism> Gonna stream?
09:02 <ConfusionRift> It actually was... kinda. Until Cicini showed up and sprayed the whole screen!
09:02 <ConfusionRift> It was a fight that appeared kinda unwinnable, but was actually not too bad.
09:02 <Cepheid> Heh.
09:03 <Cepheid> Don't tell me anything about it. I'm just aware it happens. I haven't seen it. :P
09:03 * Cepheid pokes ConfusionRift in one of his robot eyes for minor spoiler. :P
09:03 <ConfusionRift> Oooh, sorry. (rubs eye)
09:04 <ConfusionRift> I'm just gonna say go for it. It ain't bad, and might even be a fun one.
09:04 <Cepheid> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2yC1G4rrzg
09:04 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Rabi-Ribi: Irisu Lv.940 (BUNNY HELL-Normal)
09:05 <ConfusionRift> Let's start in the game over screen. :P
09:06 <ConfusionRift> But seriously, I remember there being an issue with one of the fights in which you were better off either with few badges, or NO badges equipped.
09:06 <Cepheid> It's madness.
09:06 <Cepheid> That basically applies to all bosses, ConfusionRift.
09:07 <Cepheid> The level of the enemy is determined by your equipped badges, along with other details.
09:07 <Cepheid> At least, as far as I recall.
09:09 <Cepheid> Bunny Hell Irisu I think is the closest you'll ever get to seeing a superboss version of Irisu. Also gotta clear the superbosses, right.
09:10 <Schism> There's the Impossible version of Irisu. Is that before or after Bunny Hell?
09:10 <Cepheid> I think that's before.
09:10 <Cepheid> That video shows Bunny Hell version.
09:10 <ConfusionRift> I remember there something that had to do with certain badges triggering certain debuffs during her debuff wave.
09:10 <Cepheid> Impossible Irisu is level 150.
09:10 <Cepheid> Bunny Hell-Normal Irisu is level 940.
09:11 <Cepheid> Her appearance even changes a bit. A rainbow aura follows her around.
09:12 <ConfusionRift> Oh yeah, Auto-Trigger badge... (pukes oil)
09:14 <Schism> What fresh hell...? Oh criminy.
09:14 <ConfusionRift> "I regret getting this 144Hz monitor!!!"
09:14 <Cepheid> The player in question, I'm only 10 minutes in on that video, and he's dealt over 300,000 damage to her.
09:14 <Cepheid> And her health is only slightly below half.
09:16 <ConfusionRift> Oh yeah, her pinch mode...
09:17 <Cepheid> Her pinch mode at the end doesn't change much.
09:17 <Cepheid> It's a bit tighter, but nothing spectacular.
09:17 <Schism> "The Bunny Amulet is not the Healing Touch; you gain no points for not using it."
09:18 <ConfusionRift> Oh, apparently there either a drop in the tempo of the song or the music changes with you get the Instant Death debuff.
09:21 <ConfusionRift> My current eyes and stamina would not be able to keep up with this madness.
09:24 <Schism> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWT81hEkPxg
09:24 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.
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09:25 <Schism> Extra-mode patterns.
09:25 <ConfusionRift> Whoa, what was that?! He/she poked Irisu and got hit for 1001.
09:26 * Cepheid is aware of the extra-mode stuff. Comes as part of the Artbook DLC.
09:27 <Cepheid> Ah yeah, I never saw the Irisu patterns though.
09:27 <ConfusionRift> Yep, like playing with other normally-nonplayables. :P
09:28 <ConfusionRift> Seriously, should had been part of the story in a way.
09:28 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Rabi-Ribi: \"Extra\" Difficulty (Crazy Density Patterns)
09:28 <ConfusionRift> "Get your Touhou oooooon!!!"
09:29 <Cepheid> Only difference is that after N seconds, they change pattern. Also, you can get away with a pure bullet-dodge battle in Touhou.
09:29 <Cepheid> Rabi-Ribi? Nope.
09:29 <Cepheid> Except Ribbon and Kitty, anyways.
09:29 <ConfusionRift> I know. :P
09:31 <Schism> And Irisu Final, of course.
09:31 <Cepheid> True.
09:31 <Cepheid> But that's entirely different from the standard battle.
09:32 <ConfusionRift> Oh wow, Noah's is just... nope. That messes with your eyes. Heck, the YouTube player turned to static there.
09:33 <Cepheid> The worse the spam and bloom/glow gets, yeah, the harder it is to encode decently.
09:33 <Cepheid> Especially any bloom that has the colour red in it.
09:33 <ConfusionRift> Excuse me, Rumi?!?!
09:33 <Cepheid> For some reason, red loses a lot of resolution in compression for videos.
09:35 <Schism> Hmmm, ah. This is the post-game boss theme. https://dova-s.jp/bgm/play4178.html
09:35 <Cepheid> Yeah
09:35 <Cepheid> I've fought the superbosses.
09:36 <Cepheid> They're pretty hard, even on the easier difficulties.
09:36 * ConfusionRift slowly shakes his head. "I couldn't even dent them."
09:38 <Cepheid> Anyhow, I'm off to bed.
09:39 <Cepheid> See you all at 5-6 PM Eastern Time. Or in the case of Rifty, tomorrow morning.
09:39 <Schism> Ciaociao.
09:39 <ConfusionRift> Have a good one.
09:45 <ConfusionRift> Do like-a the song.
09:46 <ConfusionRift> Not in the OST though.
09:47 <ConfusionRift> Is it just me or they used some of the game effects in the song?
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09:49 * SunsetShimmer enters sippin' cold brew o3o
09:49 <SunsetShimmer> 'Sup MLP's?
09:49 <ConfusionRift> Hmm, quite. (sips some water)
09:49 <ConfusionRift> Helloooo. :P
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09:57 <SunsetShimmer> Howdeh x3
10:02 <ConfusionRift> How it beeeee?
10:03 <Schism> ConfusionRift, that song is actually a free-to-use one, which is why it's not included in the OST itself.
10:03 <ConfusionRift> Aaaah, royalty free goody. :P
10:03 <Schism> Yupyup.
10:14 * ConfusionRift goes back to Iconoclast.
10:17 <Finwe> o3o
10:17 <ConfusionRift> RAdm. Finwe. (salutes)
10:17 <Finwe> Good afternoon, everypony.
10:17 <Finwe> Lt Cdr ConfusionRift.
10:17 <Finwe> o7
10:35 <Finwe> Messrs Schism and SunsetShimmer.
10:35 * Finwe doffs his hat.
10:35 <Schism> rAdm. Finwe.
10:35 * Schism doffs his Rumi Doughnut.
10:35 <Finwe> I'm sipping warm brew, directly from the warm storage room.
10:36 <Finwe> A friend asked if I could check the carbonation of his Mosaic Session Ale batch.
10:37 <Finwe> Everything seems to be in proper order.
10:38 <RazorSharpFang> What if that's just what they want you to think
10:40 <Schism> If it is suitably fizzy, then it is in proper order. o3o
10:47 <Finwe> Indeed.
10:47 * Finwe hats on SunsetShimmer.
10:47 * Finwe pretends to be a white Panama hat.
10:57 <SunsetShimmer> Oooh noice
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12:04 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Possible Early Season 8 MLP Episode for the Next Summer Surprise! [ http://tinyurl.com/y7tq7ajh ]
12:07 <SunsetShimmer> Oooh noice
12:10 <ConfusionRift> Yaaaaay!
12:46 <ConfusionRift> Time for the sleeps. Laters!
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13:47 <Nomoplantation4me> Friendly reminder that it was jews who kickstarted the slave trade in the US and made it flourish over time due to their use of slave labor.
13:47 <Nomoplantation4me> Also important to remember that redpilling the Blacks is paramount to destroy jewish supremacism in the West ASAP, and that Blacks and other minorities are the best vessels to bring the redpill on jewish supremacism to gaslit progressives.
13:47 <Nomoplantation4me> Also worthy of note is the subversive and treasonous way in which jewish supremacists have used Hollywood (which is controlled by jews) to pin slavery in the US on Whites, and the way jewish supremacists have dominated and exploited the Black Civil Rights Movement for their own selfish and subversive ends.
13:47 <Nomoplantation4me> Proof of those claims here:
13:47 <Nomoplantation4me> archive.is/7Oi5H
13:47 <Nomoplantation4me> archive.is/fQR6T
13:47 <Nomoplantation4me> archive.is/Gd8sA
13:47 <Nomoplantation4me> archive.is/vb4cW
13:47 <Nomoplantation4me> archive.is/7lkKC
13:47 <Nomoplantation4me> And before anyone tries to accuse me of “anti-semitism”, remember this: stating fully sourced verifiable FACTS is not anti-semitic, and if you think this is about hate, remember that TRUTH always sounds like hate to those that hate the TRUTH.
13:47 <Nomoplantation4me> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0kWAqZxJVE
13:47 <Nomoplantation4me> Former Israeli Minister Shulamit Aloni says it herself in this video:"Anti-semitic", "its a trick we always use it".
13:47 <Schism> Ahem. SunsetShimmer, you here?
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13:48 <Schism> Or Unixkitty, or even johnsey.
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13:48 <Schism> Great...
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13:49 <Schism> Danke!
13:51 <SunsetShimmer> Thankfully this mobile client makes that easier than I expected
13:52 <Moongoodboy{K}> that is really just the worst kick message though
13:53 <Moongoodboy{K}> like…seriously, client author?
13:53 <SunsetShimmer> X3 yeah I havent changed from default
13:54 <SunsetShimmer> I should.
13:55 <SunsetShimmer> But seems like I cant lol
13:56 <Moongoodboy{K}> you've gotta be kidding
13:57 <SunsetShimmer> Isnt even an option
13:57 <johnsey> maybe not such a great client after all? ;)
13:57 <SunsetShimmer> Its free. :p
13:57 <RazorSharpFang> Could always make your own client.
13:58 <SunsetShimmer> I am completely uneducated in matters of that nature
13:58 <SunsetShimmer> XD
13:59 <Moongoodboy{K}> man, why is almost every IRC client terribad
13:59 <Schism> mIRC was nice. >.>
13:59 <RazorSharpFang> Well, try making your own, and maybe you'll find your answer.
13:59 <RazorSharpFang> I'm using HexChat myself.
13:59 * Schism is as well.
14:00 <Moongoodboy{K}> well, part of the answer is that the standard just doesn't let you do a lot of things decently
14:00 <SunsetShimmer> Using androirc
14:00 <Chaosweaver> mIRC is still best
14:00 <SunsetShimmer> X3
14:00 <Moongoodboy{K}> ehhh
14:00 <Chaosweaver> AndChat is a better mobile client
14:01 <Moongoodboy{K}> I tried mIRC for a bit. I think it's overrated.
14:01 <Moongoodboy{K}> It's got a fair bit of quirks I don't like.
14:01 <Moongoodboy{K}> also its scripting language is a huge pile of rotten horseapples >.>
14:01 <SunsetShimmer> Still the gold standard
14:01 <Moongoodboy{K}> weechat best client
14:01 <Chaosweaver> weechat is utter garbage
14:02 <Chaosweaver> also, mSL is functional and powerful
14:02 <Moongoodboy{K}> the scripting API is also horseapples, but at least it uses real languages
14:02 <Chaosweaver> "real languages" lol
14:03 <Chaosweaver> today I learned scripting languages I don't like can simply be reduced to being "fake" because I don't like them
14:03 <Chaosweaver> thanks, Perl is fake now
14:03 <SunsetShimmer> If it works its real. o.o
14:03 <Moongoodboy{K}> the metric here is not personal opinion, but commonness :P
14:04 <RazorSharpFang> In that case, it ought to be Javascript given how prevalent it is.
14:04 <RazorSharpFang> Every browser supports it.
14:04 <Moongoodboy{K}> Python, Ruby, Perl, and Scheme are all used broadly for various projects
14:04 <Chaosweaver> that's nice
14:04 <Moongoodboy{K}> they're also full-featured general-purpose languages
14:04 <Moongoodboy{K}> mSL is…uhhhh…
14:04 <RazorSharpFang> I should learn Lua sometime.
14:05 <Moongoodboy{K}> well, you can concatenate strings, at least, so that's…nice?
14:05 <Moongoodboy{K}> you can also…make http requests? I guess?
14:05 <Moongoodboy{K}> is that a thing?
14:06 <Moongoodboy{K}> I mean, I'm sure it's Turing-complete, so you can /technically/ do arbitrary operations with the text
14:06 <Moongoodboy{K}> but the same goes for bf…
14:06 <Chaosweaver> I can create link readers, socks bots, interact with OS components, a 100% remote-operated bot client, and more with mSL
14:08 <RazorSharpFang> Why not just use Python? 2.x of course.
14:08 <Moongoodboy{K}> good luck performing nontrivial string operations though
14:08 <Moongoodboy{K}> RazorSharpFang: my point exactly. :p
14:08 <Chaosweaver> because I don't need to
14:08 <Chaosweaver> mSL can do everything I need it to do
14:08 <Moongoodboy{K}> sure, /you/ don't need to
14:09 <RazorSharpFang> Moongoodboy{K}, even the version 2.x? So far everyone seems to prefer 3.x
14:09 <Moongoodboy{K}> but maybe /I/ do, and the limitations will drive me crazy
14:09 <Chaosweaver> I'm still trying to wrap my head around the notion that a scripting language isn't "real", because none of the reasons you've listed do anything to negate its existence or the fact that it can very well be used to get things done.
14:11 <Moongoodboy{K}> …okay, so it's opinion. :p
14:11 <Moongoodboy{K}> It's not arbitrary though.
14:11 <RazorSharpFang> You're arbitrary.
14:12 <RazorSharpFang> (Big Dab)
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14:37 <Starlight_Glimmer> "/"mIRC was nice"
14:38 <Starlight_Glimmer> Probably the most broken client of them all
14:38 <Starlight_Glimmer> WeeChat <3
14:38 <Schism> From an interface-design perspective, I mean.
14:38 <RazorSharpFang> You could always just use telnet as your client.
14:38 <RazorSharpFang> CLI is best interface
14:39 <Starlight_Glimmer> Telnet != CLI
14:39 <Starlight_Glimmer> You really didn't want to use just telnet
14:40 <Starlight_Glimmer> If you're in more than one channel that'd be a horrible experience
14:40 <Finwe> Telnet is rather a communication protocol.
14:41 <Starlight_Glimmer> And: WeeChat's primary interface is used from the terminal
14:41 <RazorSharpFang> Starlight_Glimmer, sometimes, things are done not because they are good to do, but because they can be done.
14:41 <Chaosweaver> what umm... what exactly is broken about mIRC?
14:42 * Finwe noms on Starlight_Glimmer's tail.
14:42 <Starlight_Glimmer> Only like thousands of exploits, the fact it's commercial software etc etc
14:42 <Finwe> Starlight_Glimmer: Pfft, Irssi is the thing.
14:43 <Starlight_Glimmer> I figured you'd say that :P
14:43 <Finwe> WeeChat is quite aptly named, though.
14:43 <Starlight_Glimmer> Yeah don't confuse it with WeChat
14:43 <Chaosweaver> irssi is best text-based client
14:44 <Chaosweaver> meh all the old exploits were fixed
14:45 <Starlight_Glimmer> I really liked Chat!Zilla, but it didn't work with ZNC and got a lot more broken over the years
14:46 <Starlight_Glimmer> Well didn't work well ...
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14:47 <Starlight_Glimmer> But compared to the new cloud poop popping up everywhere I take mIRC everyday :D
15:01 <RazorSharpFang> Flash IRC client >>> everything else
15:04 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by ExplodingPonyToast: Music: Luna Jax - Wonderful (feat. 4EverfreeBrony) [Acoustic] [ http://tinyurl.com/ycn5zkzj ]
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16:39 <ArchPegasusMichael> Starlight_Glimmer: CZ was the best irc client I've ever used. Shame that it was only developed as Firefox addon, and when the old platform was scrapped, ChatZilla died with it.
16:40 <Starlight_Glimmer> Even before that it got worse over time
16:40 <Starlight_Glimmer> I used it in a tab at first which eventually broke for example
16:40 <Starlight_Glimmer> :(
16:40 <Starlight_Glimmer> FF is a mess
16:41 <ArchPegasusMichael> Yeah, but what saddens me more than CZ end, is that nobody seems to have learned what it did right
16:46 <Schism> How to troll in Minecraft... with style. https://tapas.io/episode/1117658
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16:57 <LibrarianofHope> first creeper is me
16:58 <LibrarianofHope> the owo
16:59 <SunsetShimmer> Lol Rick Astley has a new song
17:00 <LibrarianofHope> he is well known for not giving up after all
17:00 <LibrarianofHope> and he is not going to let us down
17:00 <LibrarianofHope> or desert us
17:00 <SunsetShimmer> X3
17:01 <LibrarianofHope> i won the rick roll price
17:04 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Rollercoaster of Friendship Now on Discovery Family GO! For Purchase [ http://tinyurl.com/ybstxt3f ]
17:15 <LibrarianofHope> i have a problem
17:15 <LibrarianofHope> my dad and the cook lady are nagging me becuase the older dogs are messy
17:16 <LibrarianofHope> they evn want to kill them becuase they find them incovenient
17:16 <LibrarianofHope> i got nowhere to put them
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17:37 <SunsetShimmer> I think you could be out of luck.
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18:04 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: The School of Friendship is in Session - Check Out These Guests Coming to EFNW 2019! [ http://tinyurl.com/ydyzo6h4 ]
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18:31 * Ali boops SunsetShimmer
18:32 * SunsetShimmer boops ali
18:33 * Ali puffycheeks and boops SunsetShimmer moar
18:33 <SunsetShimmer> Oh right xD
18:37 <Starlight_Glimmer> Look two nerds! How cute.
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18:41 <SunsetShimmer> We're always nerding at each other :p
18:54 <LibrarianofHope> fixed half of my problem
18:54 <LibrarianofHope> i got a doggie and left tje oldest doggie in my library
18:54 <LibrarianofHope> the pen is for her own safety, i dont mind her pooping around
18:54 <LibrarianofHope> she tends to crash on stuff
18:55 <LibrarianofHope> she has a cozy bed, food and water
18:55 <LibrarianofHope> now i need a solution for the other doggie, but its progress
18:55 <LibrarianofHope> i had to spent most of my miku concert money owo
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19:47 * Cepheid awakens and yawns.
19:56 <Cepheid> Heh, whoops. Valve, in development of MoltenVK, a Vulkan-on-Metal API for iOS and MacOS, accidentally let a bit of code slip through from the MacOS side to the iOS side that wasn't supposed to slip through.
19:56 <Cepheid> Applications on iOS using MoltenVK as a result are being rejected for submission.
20:00 <Cepheid> And Tizzy's buzzed out.
20:07 <Cepheid> https://twitter.com/LuminousOcean/status/1016413363574923265 Buzzed kitty.
20:19 <Cepheid> She's more or less fine. Just horribly buzzed out to a point that even Spitfire's leaving her be.
20:30 <Ali> Aww fluffball kitteh
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20:34 <LibrarianofHope> owo
20:34 <LibrarianofHope> i had to spent my concert money nuuu
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20:53 <LibrarianofHope> anyone familiar with the game yume nikki
20:56 * Filly_Nightmares gnaws on LibrarianofHope
20:57 * Filly_Nightmares nests on Ali belly
20:58 * Ali squeaks at Filly_Nightmares
20:58 * Filly_Nightmares floofs up and kneads Ali excitedly
21:04 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by ExplodingPonyToast: Music: Daniel Ingram - A True True Friend (NeverLastStanding Remix) [House] [ http://tinyurl.com/ycnbjvwj ]
21:05 * Cepheid stretches and yawns. "Bleh, I didn't sleep well. Got woken up earlier than intended."
21:06 * Filly_Nightmares licks Cepheid
21:09 <Cepheid> How are ye, Filly_Nightmares?
21:11 * Filly_Nightmares is gud floofy!
21:11 * Filly_Nightmares still needs to transfer files from her super laptop to her super desktop!
21:11 * Filly_Nightmares rolls onto her back for rubbies
21:12 * Cepheid rubs.
21:15 <Cepheid> My mother notices a pen on the counter. "Ooh, where'd you get the Microsoft pen?" <Me> "Gee, I wonder, maybe dad got it at Microsoft?"
21:15 <Chaosweaver> Clearly, he got it at Apple.
21:18 <Filly_Nightmares> o9o
21:21 <Cepheid> So in other news, my parents got a new mattress for their bedroom.
21:21 <Cepheid> As a result, I got their old mattress, which I absolutely love.
21:21 <Cepheid> Hell my cat loves it.
21:24 * Filly_Nightmares uses Cepheid as a mattress
21:24 * Filly_Nightmares goes O8O
21:25 * LibrarianofHope throws an uboa at filly
21:26 <LibrarianofHope> ┻━┻ ︵ヽ(`Д´)ﾉ︵ ┻━┻
21:26 <LibrarianofHope> il told that guy he couldnt get around utli he paid me my 20 pesos
21:26 <LibrarianofHope> why do i keep lending money to monsters and inamiate objects
21:27 <Cepheid> Speaking of pesos, question out of nowhere, but how is Mexican currency broken up?
21:27 <LibrarianofHope> in what sense?
21:28 <Cepheid> Like here in Canada, it's nickles(5 cents), dimes(10 cents), quarters(25 cents), dollars(one dollar), and toonies(two dollars), then the paper/plastic money.
21:28 <LibrarianofHope> its a bit simplier
21:28 <Cepheid> In particular, I'm mostly curious about the coins.
21:28 <LibrarianofHope> the basic is 1 peso, it adds up
21:28 <Cepheid> Right, same here.
21:28 <Cepheid> 100 cents is a dollar.
21:28 <LibrarianofHope> he go from 1 cent up to 10 pesos
21:29 <LibrarianofHope> there are 20 peso coins but they are rare
21:29 <Cepheid> Sheesh.
21:29 <Cepheid> And I thought Canada was strange for having the Toonie.
21:29 <LibrarianofHope> paper money goes from 20 pesos up to a 1000 pesos notes
21:29 <Cepheid> Ah.
21:29 <LibrarianofHope> no one accepts the 1000 pesos note
21:30 <Fn> Too much fraud?
21:30 <LibrarianofHope> change issues
21:30 <Fn> Ah
21:30 <Cepheid> Same with the $100 bill in Canada. Though that's also partly due to fraud.
21:30 <LibrarianofHope> we do have fake money, but if you have one you go to a bank and they trade it for the real deal
21:30 <Cepheid> Very vew accept the $100 bill because it's just too large to break down change for, but there's also a lot of fraud involving it.
21:31 <Fn> In Germany we had a time when 50Eur was not accepted by small shops because fake bill circulated around
21:31 <LibrarianofHope> we use the trading method to take the fake out of circulatinion and have samples to analyze
21:31 <Cepheid> Cash denominations in Canada are, if I recall correctly, $5, $10, $20, $50, and $100. At least, the most commonly used denominations by the public.
21:31 <Fn> I'd figure it was the 500 bill that would be faked
21:31 <Cepheid> I'm pretty sure there's higher that's used by corporations and big-wigs.
21:31 <Cepheid> And government.
21:31 <LibrarianofHope> its the most faked
21:32 <Cepheid> Fn: It's less conspicuous to fake the lower denominations.
21:32 <LibrarianofHope> the 1000 pesos note tto, but its failry pontless if they dotn accept the real deal anyway
21:32 <Fn> I guess you are right
21:32 <Fn> It's not often that people pay in 500
21:32 <Cepheid> It'd be easier to pass $5 or $20 fake bills off than a $50 or $100.
21:32 <Cepheid> Because they're on the lookout for fake $50 and $100 bills.
21:33 <Cepheid> In fact, a common problem is that you'll sometimes see American bills.
21:33 <Fn> Well, we had 50 and 20 faked in two separate years
21:33 <Cepheid> Particularly, $20 bills.
21:33 <LibrarianofHope> i sometimes joke with certain clerks when they check the bills that i gave them that the bill is good, i just made it
21:33 <LibrarianofHope> i never do it if it lloks like they could take it seriously
21:34 <Fn> That is true though
21:34 <Fn> You worked hard and got the bill
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21:34 <Cepheid> Most American bills don't get into circulation here because of all the varying colours.
21:34 <LibrarianofHope> we changed to plastic
21:34 <LibrarianofHope> we had really old bills
21:35 <Cepheid> But the $20 is green, so if one's not looking at what they're being handed carefully, it's possible for an American bill to pass through. It's pretty rare though because our bills have a lot of distinct features that we're familiar with.
21:35 <Cepheid> Coins are also suspect to confusion as well. American Quarters are roughly the same dimension as Canadian Quarters.
21:35 * Cepheid has a stack of American quarters around here somewhere.
21:36 <Cepheid> Also got 10 euros around here as well, in cash.
21:36 <Cepheid> Leftovers from my trip to the Dutchlands.
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21:37 <Fn> I remember a story in Moscow when a homeless person found a torn $1 bill in the trash, glued it together and exchanged for rubles. Turned out the bill was a winning bill number in a lottery that state bank was doing in order to interest people more in buying dollars. When they got to the homeless person he drank himself to death the same day...
21:38 <Cepheid> Oof.
21:38 <Fn> At least the bank had a decency to donate the money to the organisation that helps poor people.
21:39 <Fn> Actually I do wonder if this homeless guy would also drink himself dead from the lottery win?
21:40 <Cepheid> Hard to say.
21:40 <Cepheid> That he drank that much implied he was an alcoholic and had an addiction problem to begin with.
21:40 <Fn> Yes
21:41 <Cepheid> So it's entirely possible that with all that money, he still would have drunk himself to death.
21:41 <Fn> There was a case in France when an alcoholic inherited a multi-million Euro worth castle, with an estate, wine hills and family wine business
21:42 <LibrarianofHope> i have a bunch of world money on a little chest on my suvenir display
21:42 <Fn> you can guess what happened
21:42 <LibrarianofHope> my dad refunded me the money i used for the doggie pen, progress
21:43 <LibrarianofHope> i still need to figure out where to put the other one, kinda tricky
21:43 * Schism wakes up from nap, hums.
21:43 <LibrarianofHope> he literally wanted me to go and stick her in her dog house and stick the exit on the wall
21:43 <LibrarianofHope> i told him there was no way in hell ill do that
21:43 <Schism> Canadian dollars also feel like plastic now. o3o
21:44 <Cepheid> Yep.
21:44 <LibrarianofHope> speaking of money
21:44 <LibrarianofHope> yesterday i went to a garage sale near the restaurant we went
21:44 * Cepheid hmms as he analyzes his code to figure out how best to turn it all into objects.
21:44 <Cepheid> Er, classes*
21:45 <LibrarianofHope> i bought a pggy bank toy like for a buck
21:45 <LibrarianofHope> its very funny, it even sings
21:45 * Schism empties that mop water from earlier, reveling in the feel of a clean apartment.
21:45 <LibrarianofHope> i have a roomate on my library owo
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21:46 <LibrarianofHope> also schism
21:46 <LibrarianofHope> i broke your tables
21:46 <LibrarianofHope> i got angry at a guy who owed me money
21:47 <Schism> Meh.
21:48 * Schism also sighs. "You know how when you want to have a nap, but you don't sleep quite enough, you wind up rather more ill than when you began?"
21:48 <LibrarianofHope> sleep inertia
21:49 <LibrarianofHope> its awfull
21:49 <LibrarianofHope> try caffeine, help
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21:54 <Cepheid> Fun note, but I have a stupid little sleeping problem that annoys the hell out of me for what it does to my bedroom.
21:55 <Cepheid> I shake my foot when I lay down, not restless leg syndrome, as I do it even when I'm sitting or anywhere else. It's... following a beat, usually. Music, or something I'm "humming" in my head.
21:56 * Filly_Nightmares floofs
21:56 <Cepheid> Doesn't sound like something that should affect my bedroom. I know. But I have these little cloth feet on the bottom of the legs of my bed frame to protect the wood panelling flooring.
21:56 * Filly_Nightmares berps
21:56 <Cepheid> Basically, excessive foot shaking results in my bed sliding in one direction ever so slowly.
21:56 <Cepheid> Also getting up and getting back into bed.
21:57 <Cepheid> I actually got a pen mark on my headboard and on my wall to line my bed back up to where it should be every now and then.
21:59 <Filly_Nightmares> o9o
22:04 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Rise of the Clockwork Stallions to Be Removed From Developers Site [ http://tinyurl.com/y9yxv4w6 ]
22:06 <Cepheid> Hum. Amazon Warehouse is starting to go up in Ottawa.
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22:20 <Cepheid> Okay, that's an oddity I've never noticed before.
22:20 <Cepheid> I forgot to take my meds today, so I was getting irritable because my parents were talking while I was trying to watch the news.
22:20 <Cepheid> But the thing I noticed is that when my parents spoke, it felt like something was "moving" in my right ear.
22:21 <Cepheid> Like flexing or being compressed or stretched. I can't explain it.
22:21 <LibrarianofHope> my first instict is worm jokes
22:21 <LibrarianofHope> but in a serious note i never heard ear issues related to mental stuff
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22:21 <LibrarianofHope> mdp!
22:22 <LibrarianofHope> ohh ma goodness!
22:22 <MDP> hello
22:22 <LibrarianofHope> its going to rain
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22:22 <MDP> i wish, it's quite warm here today
22:22 <LibrarianofHope> mexican joke sorry
22:22 <Cepheid> LibrarianofHope: The medication I take has shown itself to induce a sort of "don't care" effect on me.
22:22 <MDP> lol
22:22 <LibrarianofHope> we say its going to rain when sometime rare happens
22:22 <Cepheid> Basically, I stop caring about some stuff to the point that it no longer bothers me.
22:22 <MDP> how is everyone
22:22 <LibrarianofHope> what are you taking?
22:23 <Cepheid> Cymbalta. Otherwise known as Duloxetine.
22:23 <LibrarianofHope> had a rough start to the day, but it got better
22:23 <LibrarianofHope> my dad took that and he got really sick
22:23 <LibrarianofHope> i would advice you get a secord or ven third opinion on thaht one
22:24 <Cepheid> It's actually the safest of the drugs I've taken thus far.
22:24 <LibrarianofHope> mdp, how are your multiple prjects?
22:24 <LibrarianofHope> thats not a good thing at all
22:24 <LibrarianofHope> the cepehid med
22:25 <Cepheid> First one caused headaches. Second caused narcolepsy. Third actually worsened the symptoms. This one, no side effects.
22:25 <Cepheid> Yeah, I don't have any side effects from duloxetine.
22:25 <Cepheid> Just the "don't care" thing, which I think is what it's meant to do.
22:25 <Cepheid> Again, remember. The brain is a complex device. What works for one person may not work for another.
22:25 <MDP> mmm if it works it works
22:25 <LibrarianofHope> im a faulty model
22:25 <MDP> they monitor for that
22:25 <LibrarianofHope> we both are
22:26 <LibrarianofHope> i need my recpeit
22:26 <Cepheid> But it's only half the issue for me, apparently.
22:26 <LibrarianofHope> ....
22:26 <MDP> as for myself, I'm doing alright, still drawing( right now actually), really busy with work. need to watch that latest equestria girls special
22:26 <Cepheid> Despite the duloxetine, I still have episodes. They aren't as easily triggered and started, but that they still happen easily..
22:26 <Cepheid> Suggests I need another medication alongside the duloxetine.
22:27 <Cepheid> So far I've been diagnosed as having either bipolar, or borderline personality disorder.
22:27 <LibrarianofHope> my mom had the second
22:27 <LibrarianofHope> i seem to have inherited some error on my own brain
22:27 <LibrarianofHope> from her
22:28 <Cepheid> Entire mother's side has the same problem as me.
22:28 <Cepheid> Some deal with it differently.
22:28 <MDP> I know someone who's bpd and is struggling with episodes on lithium
22:28 <Cepheid> My mother's learned to control it. My sister takes medications, but different kinds. My uncle takes the same medications as me. My aunt just abuses drugs and keeps trying to marry people for money.
22:28 <LibrarianofHope> it affects me on my perception
22:29 <LibrarianofHope> as in most people see blue, i see yellow, and the yellow is smiling
22:29 <Cepheid> Basically what happens with me is that I suddenly start thinking unusual thoughts about how I should live, act, perform in school, etc.
22:30 <Cepheid> Which slowly grows to unbearable levels. I get depressed, start crying. Then I get angry at myself for breaking down and crying. Then my anger cycles back into depression. Which then cycles back into anger.
22:30 <Cepheid> It eventually ends when I just simply run out of mental energy.
22:30 <LibrarianofHope> i have a heroic sort of filter
22:30 <LibrarianofHope> in the sense i focus my energy on helping
22:30 <LibrarianofHope> like for example i broke doen crying in gulit for an objectively dumb reason
22:31 <LibrarianofHope> this morning
22:31 <Cepheid> In any case, my parents suspect the diagnosis of borderline personality disorder is the correct one, according to their observations of my behaviour and mentality when I start breaking down.
22:32 <LibrarianofHope> i would concur, the few memories of my mother resonates with that idea
22:32 <LibrarianofHope> im by no means qualified to diagnoseit, just an opinion
22:32 <Cepheid> That's why I'm seeing a psychiatrist on August 16th.
22:33 <LibrarianofHope> yeah, if you find one that works for you hang on to him
22:33 <Cepheid> It was supposed to be July 16th, but yeah, *BLEEP* that psychiatrist. How does someone feel good about rescheduling one of their patient's appointments for a YEAR LATER?
22:33 <Cepheid> LibrarianofHope: Go to Oaxaca. Pet some sea turtles on the beach.
22:34 * Cepheid is watching a news story about the turtles.
22:34 <LibrarianofHope> they might go ninja on me
22:34 <LibrarianofHope> it far from me
22:35 <LibrarianofHope> i barley go to the store, it dont go that far
22:37 <LibrarianofHope> althouhgt the teachears syndicate of that area comes t the city and messes the traffic a lot
22:37 <LibrarianofHope> i want to gather up people and mess their city up, to teach em
22:39 <Cepheid> Heh.
22:44 <Cepheid> Hum. I don't know how to implement this. Well, no, I do. I don't know how to implement it in a way that makes sense.
22:46 <Cepheid> Bah. Simplest approach is best approach.
22:46 <MDP> ^
22:49 <Cepheid> I'd prefer a re-usable Vertex Array/Array Buffer class, but it's complicated to combine the two in a dynamic way. And from what I've seen, even other engines stray from this kind of approach and use the simplest approach.
22:53 <Cepheid> Schism!
22:53 <Cepheid> News!
22:54 <Cepheid> Monster Hunter World's PC release date is August 9th.
22:54 <Schism> Oh, nice. o3o!
22:54 * Schism boops the Cepheid with a carrot bomb.
22:54 <Cepheid> Hefty requirements though.
22:54 * Cepheid explodes.
22:54 <Schism> Not surprising.
22:55 <MDP> meow
22:55 <Cepheid> I'm somewhere in the middle. I'll likely lock the game to 30 FPS.
22:55 <Schism> Hihi to MDP from Ontario.
22:56 <MDP> how goes
22:56 <Schism> Sicklyish. Too many cleaning fumes or something!
22:56 <Schism> And yourself?
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23:04 <Cepheid> Myself, I'm melting and my stomach is churning a bit after those hamburgers I just ate.
23:04 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Drawfriend Stuff (Pony Art Gallery) #2674 [ http://tinyurl.com/ycmrnkfs ]
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23:21 <Cepheid> And there we are.
23:30 <Cepheid> And with that, quick and easy thick-line rendering that respects the transform properly.
23:34 <Schism> Ah, the joy of assisting the best NPC in all of Tamriel, at least during the 2nd Age: Cadwell.
23:34 * Schism claps hooves for Cepheid. o3o
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23:35 <Cepheid> I'd prefer it if the caps were rounded, but that requires more math than I'd like to apply.
23:38 <Cepheid> If you like L4D-style games, Warhammer: End Times - Vermintide(First game) is on sale. 75% off. Some DLC is on sale, but not all of it.
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23:43 <RazorSharpFang> There's a lot of warhammer games aren't there?
23:43 <Cepheid> There are.
23:43 <Cepheid> The Vermintide games are good, though.
23:44 <RazorSharpFang> Also good morning, 7:44 AM for me
23:44 <Cepheid> Yup, I figured.
23:46 <Cepheid> Mmm. Now all I need is a file format for creating meshes to render, and an editor for it. I'm inclined to import files exported from Blender 3D, and simply flatten the models.
23:46 <RazorSharpFang> One of these days, I'd like to make my own 2D game engine, and have it deterministically multi-threaded.
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23:47 <Cepheid> Deterministically multi-threaded?
23:48 <RazorSharpFang> Yeah, so that the order-of-execution of the threads doesn't impact the outcome.
23:48 <Cepheid> Not impossible.
23:49 <Cepheid> Hard, but not impossible.
23:52 <RazorSharpFang> I was thinking of abusing memcpy
23:52 <RazorSharpFang> But that's probably a bad idea
23:52 <Cepheid> Probably.
23:54 <Cepheid> The biggest issue is placement and update of objects.
23:54 <Cepheid> Random numbers are also an issue.
23:55 <Cepheid> Oh gods now you got me thinking about multithreaded game logic.
23:55 <RazorSharpFang> I was thinking that for each object in the game-world, you'd have two copies - the past state, and the new state. Updates read from past, write to new. After the update, you swap them.
23:55 <Cepheid> That is one approach, yes.
23:55 <RazorSharpFang> But that'd require twice the memory of all objects, what a cost.
23:57 <Cepheid> I need a nap.
23:59 * Schism offers Cepheid some KD with salt and pepper, in lieu of nap.
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