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00:00 <Snapai> Toxicity is actually not as ambiguous a term as it's usually treated. And it can apply to people, relationships, or even just interactions.
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00:01 <Snapai> What it is is a psychological/emotional (usually preemptive) lashing out that usually derives from a sense of being under attack or at risk.
00:02 <Snapai> That's why it's contagious - much like someone who's getting beat all the time will tend to become a physically violent person in any situation where it's not likely to garner them more abuse.
00:04 <Cepheid> I deal with toxicity in my own way, which shelters me from it.
00:05 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Derpy PMV: A Derp I Used to Know [ http://tinyurl.com/y8fs7dcx ]
00:07 <Snapai> Articles on dealing with toxic people in situations where you will have to interact with them largely recommend psychological distancing. Since toxicity involves emotional manipulation, simply emotionally detaching from interactions with them helps starve that fire of oxygen.
00:08 <Snapai> I was lookin' it up because of a situation where simply blocking or avoiding the person isn't an option.
00:09 <Schism> This is how you deal with abusive people of all types, usually.
00:10 <Snapai> But anyways, that's how I wound up looking up charisma/making others feel good - because since toxicity can often result from people feeling under threat and scared, I was curious how to improve peoples' sense of wellbeing.
00:12 <Snapai> (I mean, some people are just maliciously manipulative, but for a large part abusive types are not just doing it for the funses)
00:15 <Cepheid> Given my temperament and mental health, the best solution for me is to keep my distance and interact only if necessary.
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00:30 <Cepheid> I need to see a doctor.
00:32 <Cepheid> My lungs are all buggered up. I think I need a round of antibiotics.
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00:40 <Cepheid> My dad keeps doing his occasional knife jokes. I'm giving him 3 more chances to stop and then I'm going to deck him.
00:43 <SunsetShimmer> You could take a stab at it yourself.
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00:45 * Cepheid stabs SunsetShimmer with a dull plastic straw.
00:45 <SunsetShimmer> xD
00:46 <Golden> Hehe
00:46 <Schism> Cepheid: Sounds like he's got you a little on edge.
00:46 * ADragonDreaming just beat Gaping Dragon
00:47 <Cepheid> ...
00:47 * Schism looks thereat. "My, what a lot of teeth."
00:47 <ADragonDreaming> Tehre is a very simple trick for that boss.
00:47 <ADragonDreaming> Don't lock on.
00:47 <Cepheid> Pray you never run into me when I next go to Toronto, schism.
00:47 <Schism> Cephy: I'll stop, I'll stop. XD;
00:48 <Cepheid> More or less, ADra.
00:48 <Schism> Oh, Adra, have another weekly comic to follow. https://www.webtoons.com/en/fantasy/sword-interval/list?title_no=486
00:49 <Cepheid> It is just unfortunate that he is seen less as a zombie-dragon-thing and more a- .... Wait, this is a pg room I can't say what I want to here.
00:55 <ADragonDreaming> Hmm... I could use another attunement alot.
00:55 <ADragonDreaming> *slot
00:58 <Cepheid> Do I want to code tonight or play games? I guess I can also do some design work. Flesh out this project a bit.
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01:03 <Schism> Cepheid: Do you actually own La-Mulana? I forget.
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01:05 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: GalaCon 2018 - Opening Ceremony Animatic [ http://tinyurl.com/yae4txsu ]
01:05 <PinkieShy> Schism mr computer guy :P
01:06 <PinkieShy> The Ryzen 5 the low end 1st gen one the 1400.. Is that better than fx series from top of your head?
01:06 <Schism> I honestly don't know in that regard. I'm still using an FX.
01:08 <PinkieShy> I guess i'll have to see :(
01:08 <Cepheid> Got an example FX-series chip you're looking at?
01:08 <PinkieShy> 6300
01:08 <PinkieShy> But i'll google it lol
01:08 * Cepheid is looking at some synthetic benchmarks.
01:10 <Cepheid> Synthetic benchmarks suggest the Ryzen is more powerful.
01:10 <PinkieShy> o.o cool :D
01:10 <Cepheid> Funnily enough, the Ryzen 5 actually beats out my Core i7 just a bit.
01:11 <Cepheid> That said, check some reviews on it.
01:11 <Cepheid> Performance is one thing, stability is another.
01:13 <ADragonDreaming> Hmm...
01:13 <ADragonDreaming> should I hit the forest before Blighttown?
01:13 <Cepheid> If you take out the Moonlight Butterfly, there's a weapon upgrade for you.
01:14 <Cepheid> It's a useful one too, if I recall. I forget the name of the ember, but I recall it providing Light damage.
01:15 <Cepheid> So it works well in the catacombs.
01:17 <ADragonDreaming> Divine Ember?
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01:19 <ADragonDreaming> yeah, okay, titanite demon.
01:19 <ADragonDreaming> You're not doable yet.
01:20 <Cepheid> Pretty sure I'd have an easier time killing the Titanite Demon with my bare hands than I would the Asylum Demon.
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01:31 <Cepheid> https://twitter.com/kolathecat/status/947698725446500352
01:31 <ADragonDreaming> Ah. Combustion is very short range
01:32 <Golden> Playing wow
01:32 <ADragonDreaming> having fun with it?
01:32 <Schism> Aww, black kitten says hi.
01:32 <Golden> Yup....shame that a certain area has to get burned today though
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01:36 * Cepheid is thirsty.
01:37 * Cepheid drinks the water out of Schism.
01:37 * Schism is made of tea.
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01:41 <ADragonDreaming> oh, Stone Greatshield.
01:42 <PinkieShy> So Aarons should get my PC tomorrow and contact me about them delievering it :D
01:42 <PinkieShy> Their HQ in Atlanta told me if they had to guess it might be Tuesday it gets to my house.
01:43 <Cepheid> ... I've been unable to play games "properly" for the last few days. By this, I mean I can't relax.
01:43 <PinkieShy> Might be sooner since I do have a preferred customer paper and such lol
01:43 <Cepheid> I feel a compulsion to work.
01:43 <ADragonDreaming> Aaaaaay, Elite Knight armor
01:44 <Cepheid> Something outside, again.
01:53 <Cepheid> We as a society are concerned about things like having our fingerprints collected by the government, or even our DNA.
01:53 <Cepheid> And yet, there are services like 23 and Me.
01:53 <Cepheid> And society likes to use these services.
01:53 <Cepheid> Am I the only one who sees the broken logic here?
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01:55 * Schism provides Alipone with some cream of mushroom soup, with lots of saltine crackers.
02:00 <ADragonDreaming> what is 23 and Me?
02:00 <Schism> DNA testing slash heredity stuff.
02:03 <ADragonDreaming> Mmm... there's some room for co-existence of a service of this nature alongside privacy concerns.
02:04 <ADragonDreaming> A service such as 23 and Me could exist with strict contractual restrictions on what the information can be used for, and who can access it, so that overall privacy can be preserved for those utilizing the service.
02:04 <Schism> True. I have oft felt that giving everything to groups like Facebook, which have comparatively limited oversight, is much more dangerous.
02:05 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Nightly Discussion #1516 [ http://tinyurl.com/y8jd6bqw ]
02:06 <ADragonDreaming> 23 and Me also isn't a governmental organization that has the power to place restrictions upon a person's life.
02:06 <ADragonDreaming> The concerns around governmental organizations maintaining fingerprint/dna/biometric databases etc. is that the overall potential for systematic abuse of this type of information is dramatically higher, given the societal role that a governmental organization plays.
02:08 <Cepheid> Last I heard, 23 and Me isn't exactly up to spec on privacy.
02:08 <Cepheid> Same with other such services.
02:09 <ADragonDreaming> That said, if you are concerned about potential governmental abused of this type of information, it would behoove you to also be suspicious of services like 23 and Me, and to examine carefully the terms of service and what they will retain-
02:09 <ADragonDreaming> yes, I was getting to that
02:09 <Cepheid> Heh.
02:09 <Cepheid> But it's not just government concerns that people have. PRivacy in general, seems to be an issue people have.
02:09 <PinkieShy> A few years ago i remember there was a soda on the market.. That included Melatonin in it..
02:09 <ADragonDreaming> There's also the simple point that perhaps people using 23 and Me aren't the ones concerned about governmental abuse of DNA databases.
02:10 <ADragonDreaming> Privacy is important.
02:10 <ADragonDreaming> Privacy is about control.
02:10 <Cepheid> PinkieShy: Wouldn't surprise me. Though there's not much point buying it. Just throw a tablet into any coke, fresca, or whatever.
02:10 * Cepheid has done this on occasion over the conventional method of taking melatonin.
02:11 <Cepheid> In any case, I'll stop with my old-man ranting about 23 and Me and stuffs. :P
02:12 <ADragonDreaming> When you don't have privacy, you lack control of your life and your information - if your information is in the hands of an organization, corporate or governmental, that has control over it, you then feel helpless.
02:12 <ADragonDreaming> Privacy regulation ensures that people have at least the feeling of being control of their life, to an extent. That's important.
02:14 <ADragonDreaming> On the flip side it has to be intelligent so as to allow, you know, communication to occur.
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02:16 <Cepheid> WinForms, why do you use the absolute position of the mouse on the screen when reporting mouse position for drag and drop?
02:20 <Cepheid> Apparently that's normal behaviour. To convert from screen to relative, you need a separate method..
02:21 <Snapai> >.>
02:22 * Snapai pokes Schism
02:22 <Snapai> I made a thing! https://twitter.com/Snapai/status/1024478439754096640
02:22 <Cepheid> Heh.
02:22 <Schism> Man, that kaiju really hits those high notes.
02:23 <Cepheid> Screamin' Cowboy.
02:24 <Snapai> And lizardboi
02:25 <Cepheid> https://twitter.com/DiOPPIO/status/1023881591888592901 Meanwhile.
02:29 <Schism> https://www.deviantart.com/humandescent/art/Cat-amongst-the-pigeons-154949618
02:30 <Schism> Or, perhaps, better: https://www.deviantart.com/humandescent/art/Catird-or-birat-19787270
02:31 * ADragonDreaming picks up a second Balder Side Sword
02:32 <Cepheid> ... Okay.
02:32 <Cepheid> So apparently, when you complete a drag and drop operation, it calls DragLeave() instead of the DragDrop() event.
02:34 <Cepheid> Oh, that's why.
03:01 <Cepheid> ... Why is this such a hard thing to find info for?
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03:06 <Cepheid> Ah, there we go.
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03:26 <Cepheid> Assuming all those flashy, shiny energetic projectiles that you see various characters in anime, video games and the like produce are possible, would their existence imply gravitational mass holding them together? If so, just how much, and would launching it off have a counter-effect of pushing back the one who launched it?
03:30 <Cepheid> I'm hungry for eggs.
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03:30 <Thelema5> Hello everypony
03:30 <Cepheid> But this time, I think I'll make scrambled eggs.
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03:34 <Thelema5> The best way to cook scrambled eggs, in my experience, is to beat them well with some cream to incorporate a lot of air, and then slowly pan-cook them in butter on low, gently pushing the cooking underlayer over the more raw parts as they cook using a sweeping circularmotion
03:34 <Thelema5> Kinda hard to explain, I guess
03:34 * ADragonDreaming enters Blighttown, gets knocked off edge
03:35 <ADragonDreaming> That's enough for today.
03:35 <Cepheid> Heh.
03:35 <Cepheid> Yeah, Blighttown is... Yeah.
03:36 <Thelema5> Sorta like this https://youtu.be/Vuy2nrJz0Zw
03:36 <ADragonDreaming> I die in this game more to falling than anything.
03:36 <Cepheid> That's what I did, Thelema5.
03:36 <Thelema5> Awesome!
03:37 <Cepheid> Though, disgustingly for some, I have a preference for powdered eggs when it comes to scrambled eggs.
03:37 <Thelema5> I've never tried them that I know of.
03:38 <Cepheid> They have a slightly different texture, I find.
03:40 <Cepheid> Next up, some toasted buttered bread.
03:41 * Cepheid butters some toast atop ADragonDreaming's head.
03:42 <ADragonDreaming> "Buttered toast!"
03:42 * ADragonDreaming eats bed
03:44 <Cepheid> Better than powdered toast.
03:46 <Schism> What rolls down stairs, alone or in pairs, and crushes your neighbor's dog?
03:46 <Thelema5> It's log?
03:46 <Schism> It's log, log, log!
03:47 <Thelema5> It's big, it's heavy it's wood
03:47 <Schism> It's loog, it's looog, it's better than bad, it's good!
03:47 <Thelema5> From Blammo
03:47 <Cepheid> Why is it I can recall that song so well despite only having ever heard it once, and yet I can't remember what was advertised just 30 seconds ago?
03:48 <Schism> Kricfalusi's just that good.
03:48 <Schism> Well, inasfar as his cartoons go.
03:49 <ADragonDreaming> Because it was a memorable joke.
03:49 <Schism> Also, the show was already in your head in the first place, Cepheid.
03:53 <Cepheid> The funny thing is that I was never really a fan of the show. I only watched it because my cousins liked it.
03:54 <Cepheid> Also, I forgot to take my meds, and while doing so I made a horrible mistake.
03:54 <Cepheid> I breathed in while using the nasal spray. It tastes like hair spray all over my mouth. AIGH.
03:56 <Cepheid> I really need to set up an appropriate development environment for me and Spitfire. I'm thinking chair with arms to rest my arms on, a platform that I can place over my lap for my laptop, and attached to the right side of the chair, a cat bed positioned in such a way that Spitfire or Tizzy can sleep right up against my arm.
03:59 * Cepheid taps Spitfire's head. "Stop. Chewing. The cables. It's not safe."
04:00 * Cepheid refreshes his memory of projection of vectors onto other vectors.
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04:04 <PinkieShy> so..
04:04 <PinkieShy> got the coffee maker
04:04 <PinkieShy> its a bunn.. but something is wrong with it.. it seems
04:04 <PinkieShy> Fuzzy stuff keeps coming from it XD
04:05 <PinkieShy> and i drained the tank since it holds more water than it should..
04:05 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by ExplodingPonyToast: Bonus Music #141 [ http://tinyurl.com/yajkr5x2 ]
04:05 <PinkieShy> black chuncky stuff that reminds me of mold came out.
04:05 <Schism> Uhhh... yeeah... I would dispose of it then.
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04:05 <Schism> Nice as the thought was, no.
04:06 * Schism has mycophobia strong enough that he's almost retching at the thought. (Fear of funguses.)
04:07 <PinkieShy> Schism you wouldn't want to see the ceiling in my room then lol
04:07 <PinkieShy> Black mold growing no doubt about it.
04:12 <Thelema5> PinkieShy, not all black mold is toxic. It's a misnomner.
04:13 <Thelema5> There are a few species of toxic molds that happen to be black, but there are many innocuous ones that are also black. You should get ti tested though
04:13 <Thelema5> *it
04:13 * Schism nods, "Either way, cleanin' up the ceiling is probably a good idea."
04:13 * Thelema5 agrees
04:14 * Schism also randomly boops Thelema5 with a copy of Julia Child's 'Mastering the Art of French Cooking'.
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04:20 <Cepheid> I have a corner of black mold growing in my bathroom because no matter what I do, I can't stop water from leaking out of the bathtub onto the floor when I take a shower.
04:20 <Cepheid> ... Oh c'mon, Spitfire. It was a tap for me to keep you from chewing on cables. Stop moping.
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04:24 * Cepheid sighs. Goes and gets comfy on the couch to snuggle with Spitfire, taking time away from work.
04:25 <Schism> Nothing cheers up a cat from a good mope like that.
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04:30 <Cepheid> Gotta do something about them reef buddy. Got a bit of buildup thar.
04:33 <Cepheid> Teef*
04:33 <Thelema5> This is so weird. I'm being stalked on social media by an old coworker
04:33 <Thelema5> I mean, old... as in someone I worked with for a few months... 20 years ago
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04:41 <Golden> So....has everyone heard about digimon survive?
04:43 <Cepheid> So, tried teeth brushy-brushy, Spitfire wouldn't have any of it.
04:44 <Thelema5> Sorry Golden, I've not
04:44 <Cepheid> Well, he did have some of it. When I tried to get closer to the teeth is when he got fed up. >.>
04:45 <Thelema5> Cats are not known to be patient with violations of personal space
04:46 <Golden> It's a new digimon game that is gonna be going with dark tones. Like death and such.
04:47 <Cepheid> Far as I understand, Digimon overall has had some dark tones.
04:48 * Thelema5 is watching one of his favorite movies of all time... Kung Fu Hustle
04:48 <DashedRainbows> how is Thelema5 today
04:48 <Golden> The dark tones haven't been used much in digimom games.
04:49 <Thelema5> OKay, DashedRainbows. Still dealing with a broken rib and gout, so barely mobile
04:49 <Thelema5> But I'm watching Kung Fu Hustle, so it's 'aight
04:50 <Cepheid> I should learn to cook rice.
04:51 <DashedRainbows> I is coding to forget my sorrows
04:51 <Cepheid> I'm coding just because if I don't, I'll go insane.
04:52 <Cepheid> Of course, constantly coding will inevitably drive me insane anyways, so I'm screwed.
05:00 <Thelema5> Schism, have you ever seen this movie? I don't know how it might translate for someone with less familiarity with classic Kung Fu films, but the humor and satire is spot on regardless
05:00 <Schism> I keep meaning to watch it, honestly.
05:04 <ADragonDreaming> I recommend.
05:05 <Thelema5> It's my number one go-to feel good film
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05:20 <Schism> "Thing is, I don't have the mana pool a regular unicorn, pegasus, or earth pony does -- or at least I can't manipulate as much of it. What I do seem to have is precision. And that means that I get to do things the fun way. Reducing friction instead of just shoving. Minor hacks, tricks and the use of every glitch I can get my grubby little hooves on."
05:27 * Cepheid goes to take some melatonin. "Hell with it, I'm gonna knock myself out so I can wake up at a reasonable time tomorrow, go in to the clinic, then return home and sleep some more.
05:28 <Schism> Good idea. I'm going to head downtown to meet up with folks and do some paperwork.
05:28 <Schism> And waking up ante meridian would be a good idea.
05:29 <Cepheid> I prefer to be awake at night. I function better during the night time.
05:32 <Cepheid> Anyhow, back in a bit. Gonna go clean up.
05:32 <Thelema5> Bye
05:32 <Cyan_Spark> Nice, Schism!
05:32 <Cyan_Spark> You's a unicorn?
05:33 * Schism iz changeling. Serves food, so is foodling. o3o
05:33 * Schism for example provides Filly_Nightmares with a tray of choklit chip cooki.
05:34 * Thelema5 Ears prick. cookies?
05:36 <Schism> But of course! Sadly, just a single batch, as we're bereft of eggs. (Though TBH, I might give it a miss until the morning.)
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05:39 <Thelema5> I've been craving chocolate chip cookies since my trip to maine, but apparently they don't sell them up there
05:39 <Schism> Huh? Weird... o.o
05:40 <Thelema5> Yah. Not in any local shops.
05:42 <Schism> Betcha could have gotten some maple cookies, but those certainly aren't the same.
05:42 <Thelema5> Right. Maple lobster cookies. HEH
05:42 <Cepheid> Left note for parents. Phone is charging. I'll wake up at 9 am and go in to the clinic ASAP.
05:43 <Cepheid> My chest despite cough syrup and asthma meds is filling up with a bubbly fluid and it itches/hurts to breathe. I have another lung infection. No fever though.
05:45 * Schism winces, "Yeah, time to get that taken care of. The lack of fever is a good thing, but..."
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05:47 <Cepheid> This happens a lot during the summer now. Wonder if that one really bad case has made me susceptible to it. Or it is a result of smog and/or climate change affecting me due to increased heat.
05:53 <Thelema5> Thanksie, DashedRainbows
05:55 * Cepheid coughs some more. "Ugh, just kill me now."
05:55 * Golden is tempted to binge digimon adventure tri....for the 50th time this year.)
05:55 * DashedRainbows hugs Thelema5
05:56 * DashedRainbows falls asleep
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06:11 <Cepheid> Ironically, sitting in front of a fan causes my breathing to improve. This implies the issue is more about something in the air aggravating something in my lungs.
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06:40 <Finwe> Good morning, everypony!
06:40 <Finwe> Messrs Thelema5, Cepheid, Golden and Schism; Miss DashedRainbows.
06:40 * Finwe doffs his hat.
06:41 <Golden> Heya
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08:20 <ConfusionRift> Hello everypony.
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13:05 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Another Promo Appeared on Nickelodeon [ http://tinyurl.com/y9ttu9tc ]
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13:48 <ADragonHoarding> ...if you wanted to use a 48% residual, why would you put in the residual value that calculates from a 53% residual when you click the mode that allows for manual entry of these values instead of automatic calculations.
13:49 <Cepheid> Hmm?
13:49 <ADragonHoarding> Lease contract in Canada. Lady calls in because residual is "wrong" - no, it's calculating correctly based on the program you selected provided by the lender in question.
13:50 <Cepheid> Mmm. Yes, we do have idiots up here too, yes.
13:50 <ADragonHoarding> But you want a 36 month term with a 48% residual instead of the one they've allowed, so custom it. Now it's just manual entry of values. Automatic calculation is no longer used.
13:51 <ADragonHoarding> so if the residual is wrong again, it's because you entered the wrong one...
13:51 <ADragonHoarding> Also, i'm not a finance person, and I'm able to realize this simple thing.
13:52 <Cepheid> Yep.
13:53 <Cepheid> Reminds me of the whole "If I put in the wrong numbers, will I get the right answer?" thing.
13:53 <Cepheid> You'll get the right answer for the numbers that you put in. But whether or not it's the right result that you're looking for..
13:55 <Cepheid> Meanwhile, I was gonna go to the clinic today, but mysteriously overnight my lungs cleared up considerably. If they get worse by tomorrow my mother will drag me out to the clinic.
13:57 <ADragonHoarding> I take it you didn't have an appointment?
13:57 <Cepheid> I did not, I was gonna go to a walk-in clinic.
13:58 <ADragonHoarding> Aha
13:58 <ADragonHoarding> Also. I believe I have figured out why the lady is not crazy.
13:58 <Cepheid> The other half of the issue is that it's raining badly and I don't have an umbrella. And oh?
13:58 <ADragonHoarding> Just possibly bad at communication.
13:59 <Cepheid> That is possible, yes/
13:59 <ADragonHoarding> Testing in the saved session indicates that the 36 mo. term with a 53% residual appears to be calculating to the 48% residual instead.
13:59 <ADragonHoarding> So she communicated the percentages backwards.
14:00 <Cepheid> ...
14:00 <Cepheid> That sounds like a bug.
14:01 <Cepheid> Heck of a headline. "Crime author who killed people and used own murders to writers sentenced to death"
14:01 <ADragonHoarding> This is why I went investigatory.
14:02 <Cepheid> And then there's "Pregnant mom served cleaning solution instead of latte at southern Alberta McDonalds"
14:02 <ADragonHoarding> That crime author does not appear to have thought that through.
14:02 <Cepheid> That one I would possibly attribute to "They were cleaning the machine and the person serving the drink didn't realize it."
14:03 <Cepheid> That appears to have been the case, too.
14:03 <Cepheid> The cleaning fluid was still hooked up to the machine.
14:09 <Cepheid> A news article or three I can see being written about this. Making it seem like some sort of criminal activity is taking place on Twitter seems a bit much, though. It was an accident. Reprimand the person responsible, apologize to the woman, provide some sort of compensation, move on.
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14:15 * Cepheid sits atop SunsetShimmer.
14:19 * SunsetShimmer makes chair noises
14:21 <Cepheid> https://twitter.com/PARAN_SUT/status/1024157494522740741 *Step Step Step Step Step FLOP!*
14:25 <Cepheid> So, you're squeaking and threatening to collapse underneath me then SunsetShimmer?
14:26 <SunsetShimmer> ...Well, I am only a smol frail hors
14:29 <Cepheid> And I weigh 230lbs(~105kg), so yes, you're probably about to smoosh underneath me.
14:29 <Cepheid> Unless you're like, one of those body-builders because of your fanboy/girl-ishness over wrestling.
14:31 * ADragonHoarding casts Strength of One on SunsetShimmer
14:33 <Cepheid> I blame the latest update to Oxygen Not Included, but I'm trying to decide what Dwarf Fortress or Oxygen Not Included job would be suit each person here.
14:34 <ADragonHoarding> Dictatorial arbitrator.
14:34 <Cepheid> I'm best suited for a position that keeps me constantly busy 24/7, with no long(Days on end) stops. So either someone who maintains the records of all the items we have, or a janitor. Always need at least one of those.
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14:35 <Cepheid> Especially in Dorf Fort, when your dorfs all get cave adaptation and start spewing everywhere.
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14:35 <ADragonHoarding> ...cave adaptation?
14:35 <ADragonHoarding> why would that lead to spewing?
14:36 <Cepheid> Yeah, if Dwarves stay inside for too long, if they step outside into the sunlight they start getting sick.
14:36 <ADragonHoarding> oh, because sunlight, okay.
14:36 <ADragonHoarding> That's solvable with population castes.
14:36 <Cepheid> 9 times out of 10, this leads to the countryside being covered in vomit, which then gets dragged inside.
14:36 <ADragonHoarding> surface dwarves, cave dwarves, and trade dwarves.
14:36 <Cepheid> Mmm, having rotating groups that work outside, yeah.
14:36 <Cepheid> Or that.
14:37 <RazorSharpFang> Is there an actual GUI for that game yet?
14:37 <Cepheid> Could certainly work, too. Cave dwarves live in the caves, do all the mining. Surface and trade dwarves stay up top on the surface, build houses out of the cave materials.
14:37 <ADragonHoarding> From the last time I looked
14:37 <ADragonHoarding> no.
14:37 <Cepheid> And no, outside of the ASCII UI, there's still no real GUI.
14:38 <Cepheid> I think that's why Oxygen Not Included and Rimworld are good contenders against Dwarf Fortress.
14:38 <Cepheid> They may be less... detailed, but they have GUIs that are easy to work with.
14:38 * Cepheid notices something outside. "ORANGE KITTY!"
14:38 <ADragonHoarding> Banished, too, for the "village management" aspect.
14:38 * Cepheid runs outside. "Kitty kitty kitty kitty..."
14:38 <ADragonHoarding> though it doesn't have the monsters.
14:39 <Cepheid> I really wish my mother would put this away. It gives the wrong impression to have it out and visible.. *Looks at Naloxone kit.*
14:40 <Cepheid> I am really scatterbrained this morning.
14:40 <Cepheid> But anyways, back to deciding roles. ADragonHoarding, you strike me as somewhat strategic, analytical and to some degree, a by-the-books type person. You'd probably be Captain of the Guard.
14:41 <ADragonHoarding> Dictatorial Arbitrator.
14:41 <ADragonHoarding> Exactly.
14:41 <Finwe> Good afternoon, everypony.
14:41 * Finwe hats on ADragonHoarding.
14:41 * ADragonHoarding has a hat.
14:43 <Cepheid> Unfortunately THAT role is restricted to the Leader, who shows up under various conditions, and then makes dictatorial demands.
14:43 <Cepheid> Like slade coffins.
14:43 <Cepheid> Or platinum arrows.
14:43 <ADragonHoarding> that's dictatorial governance, not arbitration.
14:44 <Cepheid> Meanwhile, Finwe strikes me as a better bookkeeper than me, so he'd probably be the bookkeeper, while I'm the janitor.
14:44 <Cepheid> Our artists and writers here would all be some form of craftsman working on different materials, or engravers.
14:44 <ADragonHoarding> who's the Leader then
14:44 <Cepheid> I literally have no idea what SunsetShimmer would be, as despite conversing with them for years on end now, I have not yet figured out what would best suit them.
14:44 <Cepheid> I haven't a clue.
14:45 <ADragonHoarding> SunsetShimmer, then.
14:45 <Cepheid> Schism is by default our cook. He's always cooking up meals, so it makes sense.
14:47 <Cepheid> Ali is... hmm.
14:47 <Cepheid> Anyone have any idea what Ali likes to do outside of moderating this channel, Factorio, and paying attention to kitties?
14:47 <Cepheid> I know she likes Magic, but I don't see how I could translate that to something in Dorf Fortress or Oxygen Not Included, outside of maybe "Art" skills.
14:48 <Cepheid> Ooh, Animal Tamer
14:49 <ADragonHoarding> Make Ali the cute one.
14:49 <Cepheid> Thelema5 is the woodsman/exploring type, so either hunter, woodcutter, or both. Possibly a side job as military.
14:51 <Cepheid> Meanwhile, *_Nightmares is the resident were-beast that we keep for reasons unknown.
14:51 <Cepheid> Or because of cuteness.
14:52 <Cepheid> And for the time being, until I can figure out the rest, the rest are just either builders, haulers, or something else.
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15:01 <Cepheid> Suddenly I feel extremely tired.
15:05 <Cepheid> I guess forcing myself to sleep wasn't the best of ideas, as I didn't really get any "rest"
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15:24 <Cepheid> ..
15:24 <Cepheid> "Hot water challenge"
15:25 <ADragonHoarding> what's this now?
15:25 <ADragonHoarding> is the opposite temperature version of the ice bucket challenge?
15:25 <Cepheid> Apparently it involves throwing boiling-hot water on someone as a joke, or having them drink boiling-hot water through a straw.
15:25 <ADragonHoarding> ah.
15:25 <ADragonHoarding> So, another in the trend of stupidly dangerous challenges.
15:26 <Cepheid> More or less.
15:26 <ADragonHoarding> like the one that involves jumping out of a moving car and dancing to a song while it moves beside you.
15:26 <Cepheid> Apparently it's been in the news already as a 15-year-old in Indiana suffered from the joke.
15:26 <Cepheid> He and his friend both heard about it online, then one day one of the boys pours boiling hot water on the other boy.
15:26 <Cepheid> Long story short, the kid has several severe burns and whatnot.
15:27 <Cepheid> Oh, wait.
15:27 <Cepheid> I misread the story.
15:27 <Cepheid> The viction was the target of a pair of friends who heard about the challenge.
15:30 <Cepheid> One of the comments on it makes me cringe because it gives a rough idea as to what's going on in the minds of the people who do these kinds of challenges: "Gotta get them views and likes, homie. I'm gonna be the next Paul Logan!"
15:30 <Cepheid> Likewise, also the mentality behind the car challenge, yes.
15:32 <ADragonHoarding> That comment may have been satire.
15:39 <Cepheid> https://www.reddit.com/r/Whatcouldgowrong/comments/931owp/well_let_the_public_decide_on_the_name_for_the/
15:39 <Cepheid> ADragonHoarding: I am aware.
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15:49 <Cepheid> By the way, how did you like "A Bug's Tale"(Hollow Knight), ADragonHoarding? I saw you playing it quite a bit a while back.
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15:55 <ADragonHoarding> I have yet to complete it
15:55 <ADragonHoarding> The three weeks spent at my sister's house-sitting threw a wrench in my normal routine
15:55 <ADragonHoarding> so I stopped playing at that time
15:55 <ADragonHoarding> and now I'm far enough away from it that there's a barrier to resuming
15:56 <ADragonHoarding> I very much enjoyed what I've played of it so far
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15:59 <Cepheid> Heh.
15:59 <Cepheid> How far did you end up getting?
15:59 <Cepheid> And bleh, I was hoping to see if I could get in earlier to see my eye doctor, I have an appointment on August 29th. But apparently for it to be covered by OHIP, it has to be at least one year and a day apart from my last appointment.
16:00 <ADragonHoarding> Mmmm... how familiar are you with the game?
16:00 <Cepheid> Very.
16:00 <Cepheid> I've made it to the end, I just haven't defeated the final boss. I 100%ed the game otherwise.
16:00 <ADragonHoarding> 2 of 3 dreamers.
16:00 <Cepheid> Well, 100%ed other than the DLC. I really need to do the DLC.
16:00 <ADragonHoarding> Almost awakened nail
16:01 <Cepheid> Not bad.
16:01 <ADragonHoarding> 1/3 of way into Grimm
16:01 <ADragonHoarding> found ash grave
16:01 <ADragonHoarding> have not quite yet complete trial of fool
16:03 <Cepheid> I haven't done any of the DLC or even started any of it, so yeah that much you can't talk about. As for the trials..
16:03 <Cepheid> Yeah, the trials are... they're trials.
16:03 <Cepheid> Each one gets longer and harder.
16:03 <ADragonHoarding> Well it's specifically the final one that I've yet to finish.
16:03 <ADragonHoarding> I think
16:03 <ADragonHoarding> IIRC that one's for Notch and bragging rights.
16:04 <ADragonHoarding> or whatever the currency's name is, I forget.
16:04 <Cepheid> Yeah.
16:04 <Cepheid> It is.
16:04 <ADragonHoarding> right.
16:04 <Cepheid> I've not been able to complete it, myself.
16:04 <Cepheid> It's excessively long.
16:04 <ADragonHoarding> So yeah, I've gotten the useful tools from the trial, at least.
16:05 <ADragonHoarding> oh, and regular nail is fully upgraded.
16:05 <ADragonHoarding> ah, right, Geo is the currency
16:06 <ADragonHoarding> IIRC I was farming for it, so as to be able to buy unbreakable versions of the Fragile charms.
16:06 <Cepheid> Mmhmm.
16:07 <Cepheid> Alas, I can't talk too much about one of my favourite areas. Favourite in that it peeves people off.
16:07 <ADragonHoarding> White Palace?
16:08 <Cepheid> Yeah.
16:09 <Cepheid> Basically Super Meat Boy in Hollow Knight.
16:10 <Cepheid> For the most part, it's not as bad as it's made out to be. Except one spot.
16:11 <Cepheid> A set of spears shooting down from the ceiling in an alternating pattern.
16:12 <Cepheid> Least, I think it was an alternating pattern. ... No, they just had weird timing. Some were faster than others, and so on.
16:12 <Cepheid> I spent nearly an hour trying to get past that point alone. The rest all took about an hour to do.
16:14 <Cepheid> Other than that, it mostly just called on your ability to use all the various moves you have available to get around, including some that aren't immediately obvious.
16:14 <Cepheid> Like using the Nail to cross spike pits and such.
16:15 <ADragonHoarding> Aye
16:15 <ADragonHoarding> I've a bit of that already
16:16 <ADragonHoarding> Might equip dashmaster charm for that.
16:16 <Cepheid> I recall primarily abusing the Lifeblood charms to give myself more tries to work with.
16:17 <Cepheid> Sure, I'd run out eventually, but there's nothing to kill in the place, so collecting up energy to recharge isn't exactly viable.
16:17 <ADragonHoarding> Grubsong helps too.
16:17 <ADragonHoarding> oh, wait, right.
16:17 <ADragonHoarding> hive charm.
16:17 <ADragonHoarding> take it nice and slow and just let the mask recharge.
16:18 <Cepheid> I unfortunately did not discover that charm until *AFTER*.
16:18 <ADragonHoarding> It's a helpful one!
16:19 <ADragonHoarding> also it's the only way to regenerate lifeblood masks, if you pair it with Joni's blessing.
16:19 <Cepheid> I only found it because I insisted on getting 100%, or as near to 100% as I could, before doing the final boss.
16:20 <Cepheid> Overall, I'm pretty bland with my charm choice. I go for speed and range.
16:21 <Cepheid> I can't recall the exact charms I used since it's been a while, but the ones that increase attack speed and attack range helped me out a lot.
16:23 <ADragonHoarding> I switch it up depending on challenge
16:28 <Finwe> !twilight time
16:28 <DerpyBot> It's not Twilight time right now, silly!
16:28 <Finwe> :(
16:28 <Finwe> !starlight time
16:28 <Finwe> Starlight time! Starlight time!
16:28 * Finwe bounces around in front of Starlight_Glimmer.
16:28 <ADragonHoarding> Like against Traitor Lord I fiddled with charms after dying a few times each time
16:29 <ADragonHoarding> Until I figured out a group and strategy that let me handle im.
16:30 <Cepheid> Heh.
16:30 * Cepheid purchases the game for the Switch. Has it for the PC, sure, but portability is nice too.
16:32 <Cepheid> I actually like the Switch for this reason. A lot of games, and types of games that I like, keep popping up on it, and the portable nature makes it nice.
16:35 <Cepheid> And before you ask, while yes I had a 100%(Or nearly 100%) save on the PC, the keyword here is "had".
16:35 <Cepheid> I regularly lose my save games to stupidity on my part. Which happened here, that's why I haven't done the DLC yet.
16:38 <Cepheid> I need a coffee. Much as I'd prefer to go to bed now, I should wait.
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16:41 <Cepheid> Apparently that latest update to No Man's Sky is resulting in stuff that the devs weren't aware was possible.
16:44 <Schism> You'd think they'd want emergent gameplay.
16:45 <Cepheid> Heh.
16:45 * Schism flops, grumbles, and considers making grilled cheese with ketchup.
16:46 <Cepheid> So far, the update's not bad. PC version still needs work, though. Some severe visual stuttering issues. Game will report it's running 60 FPS, but you'll see periods where it looks like it's running at 30 FPS or lower.
16:46 <Cepheid> https://twitter.com/EmrgencyKittens/status/1021058577765752832 Anyhow, have yourself an escape artist.
16:46 <Finwe> Schism: Like a pizza without the crust?
16:47 <Schism> No, no. Grilled cheese sandwiches.
16:47 <Finwe> Ah, sandwiches.
16:47 <Finwe> I thought of some cheese like halloumi that is often grilled as such.
16:50 <Cepheid> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=at4ssKDb42s Holy cripes.
16:50 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.
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16:51 <ADragonDreaming> woof
16:52 <Schism> If a cat can squeeze its head through something, it can generally squeeze the rest of itself through as well.
16:52 <Cepheid> Yep.
16:53 <Cepheid> It's just watching kittens figure this out and then do it with ease is hilarious, it's like... "Huh. I didn't know cats could get through that."
16:54 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Cute kitten escapes from cage
16:54 <ADragonDreaming> bit slow there, Derpy.
16:55 <Cepheid> We also think of kittens as stupid little energetic critters, so we never expect them to be the escape artists they are.
16:55 <Cepheid> Squeezing under the door? Climbing the cardboard? Naaah, that'll never- ... Why is there a cat in the teapot?
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16:56 <ADragonDreaming> The cat came back.
16:57 <Cepheid> I haven't seen or heard that in AGES.
16:57 <Cepheid> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oW9f04Dctz4
16:57 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.
16:57 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about ♫The Cat Came Back HD
17:05 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Comic: Bribershy / Mimophobia / Trauma / Package 3 / Luck / Uncle 6 [ http://tinyurl.com/y9sxaw5v ]
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17:25 <Finwe> Mr Thelema5.
17:25 * Finwe doffs his hat.
17:26 <Cepheid> Mmm, that coffee helped wake me up a bit. I guess I'd best get to doing those chores asked of me, as well as finishing the laundry and then taking a shower.
17:26 <Cepheid> Back in a bit.
17:26 <Finwe> Yuck, coffee.
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17:29 * Schism yawwwns. Provides the Ali with orange cookies!
17:29 * Ali provides Schism with normal cookies
17:31 <Schism> But these are normal cookies! Dough, rolled in wax paper and refrigerated, then sliced thinly, baked, then iced with orange frosting.
17:31 <Ali> oh frosting
17:32 * Ali was thinking there had orange in them!
17:32 <Schism> Well, the dough also has orange rind and orange extract in them. o3o
17:32 * Ali nuuuu's
17:32 <Schism> In it, rather. Bleh, still tired.
17:32 * Schism blink! "Whyyyy not?"
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17:35 <ADragonHoarding> 'ello, Ali
17:36 * Ali flops over the adra
17:36 <ADragonHoarding> 'ow you bean?
17:36 <Ali> Up and down dear
17:38 <ADragonHoarding> have you been right ; been left; been wrong ; been left behind?
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17:38 * Ali boops ADragonHoarding with the konami code
17:39 * ADragonHoarding now has 30 lives.
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17:52 <Schism> ↑↑ ↓↓ ←→ ←→ PONY
17:52 * Schism immediately explodes.
17:56 * Cepheid flops back in.
17:57 * Cepheid gives you up, lets you down, runs around and deserts you, makes you cry, says goodbye, tells you a lie and hurts you. *BLAM!*
17:59 <ADragonHoarding> But you said you never would.
18:00 <Cepheid> No I didn't, that was Rick Astley.
18:00 <Cepheid> I'm Andrew Dionne. Different person entirely.
18:01 <ADragonHoarding> But I have proof
18:01 * ADragonHoarding presents a muffin.
18:01 <Schism> Well, can't argue with that proof.
18:02 <RazorSharpFang> It's very convincing.
18:02 <Cepheid> ..
18:03 <Cepheid> You people are all crazy.
18:03 <Cepheid> You'd accept a lint ball as evidence.
18:03 <RazorSharpFang> Clearly, society must be burned to the ground.
18:03 <RazorSharpFang> It's society's fault.
18:04 <Cepheid> I thought we blamed everything on Millenials these days?
18:04 <RazorSharpFang> No, I'm talking about the structure of society itself.
18:04 <RazorSharpFang> That way, I get to abdicate personal responsibility, yet still feel like I'm doing good.
18:05 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: SFM: Soup Store [ http://tinyurl.com/yblu7qos ]
18:08 <ADragonHoarding> oh, but it's the millennials that have caused the structure of society to be flawed
18:09 <Cepheid> There we are.
18:13 <Schism> It's a fair cop, but society's to blame.
18:13 <Cepheid> Schism must weigh as much as a duck.
18:19 * Cepheid reboots. Needs to update stuffs.
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18:24 <Cepheid> Better.
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18:30 <Cepheid> I get the impression that I have not been drinking as much water as I think, as I am feeling incredibly thirsty all of a sudden.
18:30 * Cepheid sits there, ignoring the fact.
18:39 * ADragonHoarding throws Cepheid at the water fountain
18:42 <Schism> +2 Rads/sec.
18:43 <ADragonHoarding> Nah, bro, perked that weakness right out
18:43 * Cepheid sits atop a broken water fountain. His weight caused it to fall off the wall, and now he is being sprayed with water.
18:45 <Cepheid> Spitfire's following me like a lost puppy dog.
18:45 <Cepheid> Or a lost kitten who just adopted a human.
18:46 <Cepheid> Man, where are these giant black ants coming from?
18:47 <ADragonHoarding> The ant colony.
18:47 <Cepheid> Now both cats are up on the table.
18:47 * Schism solves this by sending his colony of red ants against them.
18:48 * Schism takes care of a bunch of spiders along the way, swarming them and turning them into delicious green pellets.
18:48 * Cepheid gives Tizzy some ice water.
18:49 <Schism> Gonna make an ice ball for the cats at some point?
18:49 <Cepheid> Nah. They don't like 'em, and leaving them sitting out just results in the water getting all dirty with cat fur and dander.
18:50 <Cepheid> In this case, I just happened to notice that Tizzy wanted the water from my glass, which had ice water in it. So I poured some out into a small dish and gave it to her. Probably cooling her off a bit.
18:52 <Cepheid> Ah, that's what's wrong. Their water fountain isn't working. Got clogged up at the pump.
18:58 <Cepheid> And because I'm a nice guy to all the little kitties, I gave them some fresh water from our water cooler
19:05 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Silver Quill: Let's Review: The Return of Tempest Shadow [ http://tinyurl.com/y7ruh8py ]
19:07 <Cepheid> https://twitter.com/NoMansSky/status/1024730641659817984 Heh.
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19:09 <Cepheid> It's the thumbs up at the end.
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19:15 <Cepheid> Touching code while deprived of a decent amount of sleep. What could go wrong?
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19:15 <RazorSharpFang> "Segmentation Fault" But I'm in a managed language.
19:15 <RazorSharpFang> Anyhow, I'm off to sleep, good night.
19:16 <Cepheid> I was thinking more "rm -rf /"
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19:20 <Cepheid> What was I- Oh, right, vector projection to determine distance of mouse from an edge of a polygon.
19:30 <Lumindia> Schism!
19:30 <Lumindia> Schism!
19:30 <Lumindia> I got Fiend Sap!
19:33 <ADragonHoarding> wat
19:33 <ADragonHoarding> wat this
19:47 * Cepheid sneezes because low blood-glucose.
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19:57 <Cepheid> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SHt0rpYLM4
19:57 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.
19:57 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about 【東方ボーカル】 「Bad Apple!! feat.nomico (COOL\u0026CREATE Ver.)」 【Alstroemeria Records】
20:05 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Detailed Pocket Ponies Video Appears! - Gameplay, Story, and More! [ http://tinyurl.com/y87yov93 ]
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20:23 * Starlight_Glimmer bounces on top of Finwe
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20:35 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Three More Animatics Appear for MLP: FiM Season 8 Episodes! [ http://tinyurl.com/y8xw4mtk ]
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20:48 <KooK> Harble
20:50 <Cepheid> Morning.
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20:55 <Cepheid> !link https://youtu.be/Bi4Gq9KDHIw
20:55 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.
20:55 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about Vampire Killer - Castlevania: Harmony of Despair Music Extended
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21:03 <PinkieShy> new PC will have it :D
21:04 <PinkieShy> Gets delievered 10-2 :D
21:10 <KooK> yall just too wild
21:11 * Schism opens the freezer door, hears the Shell Bell sound. A coffee tin drops to hit him on the forehead.
21:14 * Cepheid wishes VLC had fine-tuned speed controls. Preferably in increments of 0.01 instead of 0.045 minimum.
21:19 * Filly_Nightmares skree!
21:19 * Cepheid stretches and yawns
21:21 * Schism offers Cepheid some Pepsi Max over ice.
21:22 * Filly_Nightmares floofs up at Schism for soda!
21:23 * Schism considers, then offers orange soda to the floof!
21:25 * Filly_Nightmares berps and nomfs it!
21:32 <Schism> Evidently Sunkist has caffeine in it. Hum!
21:36 <Cepheid> No more caffiene please.
21:36 <Cepheid> My hands are shaking enough as is.
21:38 <Cepheid> ... Huh.
21:38 <Cepheid> Tornado warning for Ottawa.
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21:40 <Schism> ... Hh. I know it's been rainy all day.
21:40 <Cepheid> It was just issued on the TV, the alert.
21:41 <PinkieShy> oh Schism i did benchmark research on AMD FX 8350 which would be a upgrade for my current PC compared to Ryzen 5 1400
21:41 <ADragonDreaming> dee-essic loaded
21:42 <PinkieShy> It said 57% recommend for gaming is the 8350 fx but the ryzen 5 1400 is like 67%
21:42 <Cepheid> Ryzen 5 1400 is about on par with what I've got, only newer-generation tech.
21:42 <Cepheid> So in all, probably better than what I got, despite synthetic results saying it's on-par.
21:42 * Cepheid is using a second-gen Core i7 2600k.
21:43 <PinkieShy> Benchmarks did also say about the fx 6300 that hte 6300 is kinda better more cores.. but it did also say that the Ryzen 5 1400 is also Massively better in speed as it supports DDR4.
21:44 <Cepheid> FX series is a previous generation, yeah. In fact..
21:44 <Cepheid> Yeah, FX 6300 is 2012.
21:45 <Cepheid> *THAT* will be on par with what I have both functionally and performance-wise.
21:45 <Cepheid> Go with the Ryzen 5 1400.
21:45 <PinkieShy> I get the PC tomorrow :)
21:45 <PinkieShy> Only $117 for 18 months
21:46 <PinkieShy> They sent me a flyer today to get like $150 off altogether :)
21:46 <Schism> Just as long as you keep up with it, that's not terrible.
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21:47 * Schism offers Shimmy a Greek salad with plenty of kalamata olives and tons of feta.
21:47 <Cepheid> I can straight-up tell you that using the 6300 for gaming is a bad idea at this point. Older generation CPUs are really starting to show their age in terms of gaming stuff.
21:47 <PinkieShy> Ikr
21:47 <PinkieShy> cyberpowerpc was a mistake lol
21:47 <Schism> Of course, if you're just looking at older games, of which there's a fairly substantial library...
21:47 <PinkieShy> Minecraft uhh..
21:47 <PinkieShy> Minecraft out of all simple games..
21:47 * SunsetShimmer drops back in on a bungee cord. o3o
21:47 <PinkieShy> Shows a small lag LOL
21:48 <Schism> Oh, Minecraft isn't a simple game to run.
21:48 <SunsetShimmer> It's not
21:48 <SunsetShimmer> there's a lot under the hood
21:48 <Schism> Trust me, it is so poorly-coded...
21:48 <Schism> And that.
21:48 <Schism> They said it would be a fool's game to program a 3D game in Java alone! Well, Minecraft showed them!
21:48 <Cepheid> It's poorly coded, It's not a good benchmark for hardware.
21:49 <PinkieShy> Schism I wonder if Microsoft would ever think of redoing minecraft in full on Unity.
21:49 <PinkieShy> That.. Would be interesting i think.
21:50 <Cepheid> Unity... ehhh...
21:50 <Cepheid> Unity has it's own problems.
21:50 <Cepheid> A better approach would be a C or C++ engine.
21:50 <ADragonDreaming> One of the advantages of the java code base for Minecraft, however, has been the ease of modding
21:51 <Cepheid> To be honest, that is an absurd excuse to use it.
21:52 <ADragonDreaming> Sure
21:52 <ADragonDreaming> but, it has been one of the advantages.
21:52 <Schism> Indeed. The game's basic engine could probably be reproduced quite readily in another language, with an overlay for add-ons.
21:53 <Schism> Just because it's good now doesn't mean that it was a good idea from the start.
21:53 <ADragonDreaming> If there's a port to an entirely new code-base and engine
21:53 <ADragonDreaming> you want to leave in the modding accessibilityl.
21:53 <Cepheid> Over C, C++, it isn't *THAT* huge of an advantage.
21:53 <Cepheid> Or even C#.
21:53 <Cepheid> You can actually dynamically link in modules from code.
21:53 <Cepheid> DLLs, shared libraries, assemblies for C#.
21:54 <Cepheid> It's just not done as often because it's generally not a safe thing to be doing in the first place. Even in Java, it's not safe.
22:00 <Cepheid> Mind you, it's still easiest to do with Java, since software to decompile all the code is a thing. Think that also goes for C#.
22:00 <Cepheid> Meanwhile, for C and C++ projects, all the relevant code has to be in a DLL or shared library, and the source code for that has to be provided. Though there are ways around *THAT* as well.
22:00 <Cepheid> Case in point, SKSE for Skyrim, and other similar tools.
22:03 * Cepheid slams hard into his freighter and due to a tunneling bug, gets his ship STUCK INSIDE OF IT.
22:04 * Schism supposes that he might return to Eorzea for a little while.
22:08 <Cepheid> Looks like they fixed some of the performance issues. Not seeing the frametime stutter now.
22:08 <Lumindia> Schism!
22:08 * Lumindia patpats
22:08 <Schism> Lumindia!
22:08 * Schism boopboops.
22:08 <Lumindia> I got Fiend Sap!
22:08 <Lumindia> :D
22:09 <Schism> Ooh.
22:09 <Lumindia> currently going for 1.8m on my server
22:09 <Schism> Going to use it on a Sephirot Tree? Oh.
22:09 <Lumindia> I'm a broke boi
22:09 <Lumindia> plus i need to pay back my fc mate for helping me buy my house
22:09 <Schism> Suuure you are. Oh, what size was that house?
22:10 * Cepheid submits the details of what he just did to the Gek engineers. Unfortunately, they're already distracted with solving a problem about a couch and a hallway.
22:10 <Lumindia> small
22:10 <Schism> Oh, so not too bad.
22:10 <Lumindia> yeah
22:10 <Lumindia> I just owe him 1m
22:10 <SunsetShimmer> I wish somebody owed me 1m.
22:10 <Schism> Alas... my house expired while I was gone. But that's okay. I can make it back!@
22:12 <Lumindia> rip
22:12 <Schism> I'm terribly, terribly poor right now. *checks retainers, obtains 2m* Well, that's better.
22:13 <Lumindia> most of my assets are in two items
22:13 <Lumindia> "Answers Orchestrion Roll" and "Fiend Sap"
22:14 <ADragonDreaming> Pivot!
22:15 <Schism> Price on this server is... hm, a nice 1.7m.
22:15 <Lumindia> for fiend sap?
22:15 <Schism> Exactly the same.
22:16 <Lumindia> I already have my birb from Sephi
22:16 <Lumindia> I just hate myself and want more saps
22:20 * PinkieShy dresses up as Pink Diamond from Steven Universe and looks at Lumindia
22:20 <Lumindia> o.o
22:20 * Lumindia boops PinkieShy
22:23 <Lumindia> can I help you?
22:26 <Schism> Lumindia: Are you already on a CWLS?
22:26 <Lumindia> nope
22:26 <Lumindia> why?
22:26 <Schism> Well, we're crossworld.
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22:31 <Cepheid> "This Duplicant's arms have all the tensile strength of overcooked linguine."
22:32 <Cepheid> +4 athletics. +5 cooking. +2 learning. -3 Strength due to trait. Night owl. This strikes me as a "Schism"
22:32 <Cepheid> Ranching +3, Farming +5, Night Owl, bottomless stomach... Cepheid.
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22:33 <Schism> Immediately I get into a hunt group. :3
22:35 <Cepheid> Female, +3(base) Digging. Squeamish(Can't tend to injured), Mole Hands(+3 Digging). I need a name for it.
22:39 <Cepheid> https://i.imgur.com/JiuCWhd.gifv
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23:03 * Cepheid meows back at Filly_Nightmares.
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23:05 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Drawfriend Stuff (Pony Art Gallery) #2697 [ http://tinyurl.com/yag8o4ab ]
23:05 * Filly_Nightmares goes O3O and pounces Cepheid!
23:06 * Cepheid deflates.
23:17 * Filly_Nightmares kneads Cepheid!
23:29 * Cepheid crawls into bed. Hugs Filly_Nightmares like a pillow.
23:31 * Filly_Nightmares floofs up for Cepheid and kneads wuv!
23:31 * PinkieShy licks Filly_Nightmares on the leg
23:33 * Filly_Nightmares noms PinkieShy tongue
23:34 <PinkieShy> Filly_Nightmares i feel gross with my hairy legs >.>
23:34 <PinkieShy> XD
23:34 * Filly_Nightmares nom noms
23:34 * Filly_Nightmares squish PinkieShy tongue
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