Log archive of EquestriaDaily for Tuesday, 2019-02-05

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00:36 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Fanfic Updates - February 4th  [ http://tinyurl.com/ya7jecmd ]

00:37 <ADragonDreaming> swiggity.

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01:06 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: It's Rarity Month for February on Discovery Family - Have a Promo  [ http://tinyurl.com/ycw3yppv ]

01:15 <Cepheid> Man, my hand-writing is atrocious, in English *OR* in Japanese.

01:19 * Cepheid sits atop ADragonDreaming.

01:30 <Schism> Cepheid: So, the Lominsan pirates have established Wineport and Aleport.

01:30 <Cepheid> ...

01:31 <Schism> Am I the only one who thinks that they'll establish Portport?

01:33 * Cepheid slams his head into a desk so hard it breaks into 3.14 pieces.

01:33 <Schism> I consider this a victory.  For some reason.

01:35 <Schism> Cepheid: This is a victory, as you have broken my brain by offering "Blue" so often.

01:37 <Schism> Also, interestingly, a player in our FC has released a book titled "Blue".  This strange situation is kind of frightening.

01:39 <Schism> It's been published, too.  A blue book on a blue Amazon... https://www.amazon.com/Blue-Chamber-Seven-Book-One-ebook/dp/B07895GMNB#customerReviews

01:40 <Cepheid> Heh.

01:46 <Schism> Da ba de a da ba cephy da be...

01:47 * Schism coughs.

01:48 * ADragonDreaming is sat

01:49 <Cepheid> >.>

01:52 <Schism> <-<

01:52 <Schism> Of coruse I have to be silly.

01:52 <Schism> course*

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01:56 <Cepheid> Right, I should go off, make my bed, etc, etc, etc.

02:03 * Schism looks at his window.

02:04 <Schism> I just heard an icicle impact.

02:04 <Schism> 10C was a lie.

02:05 <Cepheid> Dangit, I missed.

02:06 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Nightly Discussion #1701 [ http://tinyurl.com/y9rqcc29 ]

02:07 <Schism> Wait, Cepheid.  You missed making your bed?

02:07 <Cepheid> No, I missed with my assassination attempt.

02:08 <Schism> Oh.  An ice knife tends to prevent a successful kill, yeah.

02:09 <Schism> Hits your wrist, causes a twist... yeah.

02:09 <Cepheid> That said..

02:09 <ADragonDreaming> hai-chi-kao

02:09 <Cepheid> It *IS* possible to fail making your bed.  In D&D.

02:09 * Filly_Nightmares licks Schism

02:09 <Schism> Well, yeah, natural 1.

02:10 * Schism boops Filly_Nightmares wif an apple!

02:10 <Cepheid> Well, no.  Some beds are difficult to make.

02:10 <Cepheid> So you'd have to roll against the difficulty.

02:10 <Cepheid> What stats and skills would it involve, I imagine.

02:10 * Filly_Nightmares licks apple and mewls at Schism sickly

02:11 <Cepheid> ADragonDreaming:  Alas, I could not MonHan tonight, schoolwork and all that.  In fact, it was a good thing I checked my Japanese course details, as my homework was due tomorrow, not on Thursday.  Coulda sworn.. Oh well.

02:11 <Cepheid> I got it done, so it's moot.

02:12 <Cepheid> However, future homework, I'm gonna scan, then re-print, and use those pages instead.  This is getting silly with all the erasing I do.

02:12 <ADragonDreaming> s'alright

02:12 <Cepheid> My writing is garbage, so I use an eraser a lot.

02:13 <Schism> Cepheid.  We all employ an eraser, regularly.

02:13 <Schism> 90% of what I write is absolute and utter crap.

02:14 <Cepheid> No, no.

02:14 <Cepheid> I mean appearance of everything.

02:14 <Schism> Yes, that's what I mean.

02:14 <Schism> Even the idea of everything I write is junk.

02:15 <Cepheid> My れ、わ、を、ね  are all nearly-illegible.

02:15 <Cepheid> Especially を.

02:15 <Schism> Have you any idea what kind of absolute CRAP I write?

02:15 <Cepheid> No.

02:15 <Cepheid> I have never seen your writing.

02:16 <Schism> That's because I'll never show it to you.  It's THAT bad.

02:16 <Cepheid> Heh.

02:16 <Cepheid> My writing is mostly bad because A)  I rarely, if ever use it, and B)  I uh, never finished cursive writing courses.

02:16 * Filly_Nightmares chews on Schism hoof

02:16 <Schism> Cephy, c'mon.  X3  We all discard like 95% of what we do.

02:16 <Filly_Nightmares> I write in cursive! o3o

02:16 <Cepheid> I don't know what happened with B, but somehow I never learned to write the uppercase letters in cursive.

02:17 <Schism> Filly_Nightmares, can you read what you write?  o3o

02:17 <Cepheid> And in any case, my cursive is actually more illegible than my block writing.

02:17 <Filly_Nightmares> Yis!

02:17 <Filly_Nightmares> o3o

02:17 <Schism> I am surprised!

02:17 <Cepheid> Truth told, I think my cursive may be more illegible than my Japanese katakana and hiragana.

02:17 <Filly_Nightmares> Cursive puts less strain on me too! o3o

02:17 <Schism> Also, heh, Cepheid, I write in block writing.

02:17 <Cepheid> Neither form puts less strain on my hands.

02:18 <Schism> This is a little... um...

02:18 <Schism> Writing writing frightning.

02:18 <Cepheid> As it is, I apply way too much pressure, both with my grip and with applying to the paper.

02:18 <Filly_Nightmares> I also haz a fountain pen o3o

02:18 <Cepheid> In fact, I can't use 0.5mm mechanical pencils because of it.

02:18 <Schism> Yeah, that causes stress on the hand.

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02:18 <Cepheid> Every time I try to use a 0.5mm mechanical pencil, or heavens forbid, a regular pencil newly sharpened, the amount of pressure I apply causes it to break.

02:19 <Schism> As a hacker, I only write in small portions, with block writing.  Otherwise my hand tries to reach up to my neck and choke me to death.

02:19 <Cepheid> Basically, what this means is that the warning that typing on a keyboard regularly causes wrist and hand damage and such?

02:19 <Cepheid> For me, that applies to pencils, not keyboards.

02:20 <Cepheid> My hand and wrist get *INCREDIBLY* sore after just a few minutes of writing.  To the point where I think I should like, use a wrist brace or something to see if that helps at all.

02:20 <Cepheid> Anyways, I need to finish one last thing to make my bed, so BRB.

02:29 <Cepheid> That we go.

02:38 <Cepheid> Tomorrow.  Japanese class.  HCI homework.  HCI class.  I should probably get started on reading the HCI textbook.  If I can ever find it.

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02:58 <Schism> <[???]> Nice twist, there.  Pegasi really do produce the best shields.  <Cobalt> You're clearly not familiar with my friend.  Would you be so kind as to illustrate?  <Crimson> With pleasure. [[Etching Shield.]] <Shamrock> [[Seal.  Earth Step.]]

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03:25 <Cepheid> Hmm.  The progression of new updates for MHWorld ends relatively early in comparison to when the expansion releases.  I wonder if the expansion will be launched simultaneously so that both platforms are synchronized.

03:37 * Pony_56143 waves hello to everypony

03:37 <Pony_56143> Oh! I'm a pony.

03:37 <ADragonDreaming> you are

03:37 *** Pony_56143 is now known as Thelema5

03:38 <ADragonDreaming> possibly!

03:38 <Schism> Thelema5: This seems like your sort of thing.  https://youtu.be/SyZi3rJPENs

03:41 <Schism> Well, not entirely your thing, but maybe a little bit.

03:43 * DerbyFloat chews on Thelema5's hooves

03:48 <Thelema5> Heh, Schism... I've watched a bit of that show. It's pretty great

03:48 * Thelema5 tastes like a bacon cheeseburger

03:49 <Schism> Ah, which one exactly?  Stuart Ashens?

03:51 * DerbyFloat likes. keeps chewing on Thelema5

03:51 <Thelema5> I've watched the fist few episodes. Petyr is creepy af

03:51 <Schism> Aha.  Then yup. X3

03:53 <DerbyFloat> how's the lema?

03:56 <Thelema5> Meh, okay. I missed my appointment with my therapist tonight. i thought it was tomorrow, but nope. tomorow is my appointment with my psychologist.

03:56 <Thelema5> Psychiatrist

03:56 <Thelema5> Whatever

03:57 * DerbyFloat sighs

03:58 <Thelema5> How are you, DerbyFloat?

04:01 <DerbyFloat> bored and pissed

04:01 <DerbyFloat> physically ok tho

04:02 <Thelema5> Why pissed?

04:04 <DerbyFloat> because jealous and after all I've been through I'm such a damn coward

04:06 <Thelema5> Hmm

04:09 <Thelema5> Why do you say?

04:11 <DerbyFloat> I feel like I'm just showing a facade, but am too scared to rip it off

04:12 <DerbyFloat> and jealous of those that can

04:17 * Thelema5 nods

04:18 <DerbyFloat> not hopeless tho. I have at least accepted I'm not "normal" whatever it really means.

04:21 <DerbyFloat> of lighter note, I'm so bummed that I can't go to a pony con this year too

04:21 <CocoPommel> Nobody is normal, normal is a lie. Some people have had more stable lives with more than average advantages, but this idea of 'normal' is really just a bi-product of people generally acting happier than they actually are out of politeness.

04:21 <CocoPommel> I'm not saying people shouldn't do that. In fact, they should. In just saying, the idea of normal is a result of this.

04:22 <CocoPommel> *I'm

04:22 <DerbyFloat> I know this

04:22 <CocoPommel> Ok that's good

04:22 <DerbyFloat> it's just ugh

04:23 <CocoPommel> I know

04:23 <CocoPommel> It's ok

04:24 <DerbyFloat> I'd be better off just embracing the fact I'll be alone

04:25 <CocoPommel> I'm still contemplating whether or not to go to the retro gaming expo this year. I probably will, but part of me is just like... Why? But I had fun last time so I should force myself to go cuz I'm sure I would have a good time again

04:25 <CocoPommel> If you're alone and you don't want to be, you have to do something about it

04:26 <DerbyFloat> yeah I feel the same about animefest

04:26 <CocoPommel> Don't just try to embrace being alone, it's not good, and it won't work. Getting better at coping with loneliness is good though, like picking up hobbies and interests

04:26 <CocoPommel> But nobody should be alone

04:26 <DerbyFloat> I'm not alone just that the whole reason for the facade is to not be

04:27 <CocoPommel> I am very alone and it's extremely difficult about half the time

04:27 <CocoPommel> Ok

04:28 <Thelema5> I am also complete alone. I talk with AIs more then humans.

04:29 <CocoPommel> Hey Thelema5 I'm growing my first beard

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04:29 <DerbyFloat> see even AIs don't like me

04:29 <CocoPommel> I'm committing to it, no doubt, 100%

04:29 <blazingstar> Hi

04:29 <DerbyFloat> they can't hear me

04:29 <CocoPommel> Hello

04:29 <DerbyFloat> understand rather

04:30 <DerbyFloat> and typing gets hard too

04:30 <CocoPommel> Hm maybe u and Thelema5 should hang out and talk

04:30 <blazingstar> Hi Ali

04:30 <blazingstar> Hi CocoPommel

04:30 <CocoPommel> Hey

04:30 * Ali nuzzles the blazingstar

04:31 * blazingstar hugs the Ali

04:36 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Epic Animatic Finale - The Man I Used to Be (Count of Monte Cristo)  [ http://tinyurl.com/yd7z3mld ]

04:40 <CocoPommel> Hmm the count of Monte Cristo eh? I remember that being really good in the first half and then it just gets tedious and boring in the second half.

04:40 <CocoPommel> Kind of like Anne of Green Gables

04:41 <DerbyFloat> !link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zuJV-DAv_wE

04:41 <DerpyBot> I need to ask Twilight about that one.

04:41 <DerpyBot> Twilight told me this video is about NF - WHY

04:41 <CocoPommel> And Heidi Girl of the Alps to a lesser extent, although that one can at least still hold my attention in the second half

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06:38 <Pony|43991> Привет

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07:17 * Ali glomps Fall

07:17 <RazorSharpFang> Hey heys

07:18 * Ali headtilts, she glomps Fall but RazorSharpFang responds, this is strange

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07:36 <JonTheVGNerd> Fall might be either AFK or asleep, Ali

07:37 <Ali> I doubt that, he's over there in the UK area

07:37 <JonTheVGNerd> Hmm. I dunno then

07:37 * Ali noms on RazorSharpFang then

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07:41 <RazorSharpFang> I went to the gym yesterday and got myself a year membership for less than $2 a day.

07:50 * Ali still waits for Factorio to go .17

07:52 <RazorSharpFang> Yeah, once 0.17 comes out, would you like to launch a rocket with me? :3

07:53 * Ali nod nods to RazorSharpFang

07:53 <Ali> The big question is WHEN is .17

07:54 <RazorSharpFang> I hear it'll come out in [Redacted].

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08:07 <RazorSharpFang> Hey ConfusionRift

08:07 <ConfusionRift> Hey there, and hello everypony.

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08:58 * Filly_Nightmares uses DerbyFloat as a bed

08:58 * DerbyFloat is small bed

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09:52 <ConfusionRift> 0_0;

09:52 <ConfusionRift> Was in the wrong channel...

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09:53 * ConfusionRift pets both DerbyFloat and Filly_Nightmares.

09:53 * Filly_Nightmares mewls at ConfusionRift

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10:17 * Filly_Nightmares snugglies into ConfusionRift warms and curls up on

10:17 * Filly_Nightmares goes sleepies on

10:17 <Filly_Nightmares> Nini!

10:20 *** Filly_Nightmares is now known as Sleeping_Nightmares

10:21 * DerbyFloat falls asleep on ConfusionRift

10:23 <ConfusionRift> :P

10:24 * ConfusionRift snugs both Sleeping_Nightmares and DerbyFloat. "Have a good one!"

10:59 * Schism flops in.

10:59 <Schism> Sleep is helpful.

11:09 <Schism> ... I'm going to start screaming now, and I'm not sure when I'm going to stop.

11:09 * ConfusionRift flops somewhere nearby.

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11:10 <Schism> All of my hotbars in FFXIV have been reset.

11:10 * ConfusionRift stops eating icons.

11:10 <ConfusionRift> Say hwhat?

11:11 <Schism> Yeah, everything's wiped there.  On the one hand, I've intended to do this for a while.  And it's not like their positions have been reset.  On the other hand, oh my god, this is going to SUCK.

11:14 * ConfusionRift smiles from the distance. :)

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11:26 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Morning Discussion #1476 [ http://tinyurl.com/y9moqjaj ]

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12:15 <ConfusionRift> KH3, stop that. You keep punching my nostalgia.

12:15 <Schism> The fun of resetting all my hotbars is that I look at them and say... "Wait, what essential-at-the-time but not-really thing did I have on THIS?"

12:16 <ConfusionRift> The possibilities!

12:20 <Schism> I know for a fact I had a hotbar entirely filled with mounts, and now I wonder... why?

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12:20 <Schism> Beyond showing off, of course.

12:21 <ConfusionRift> Maybe... it was showing off. :P

12:22 <Schism> Little bit.  Oh well, I'll just fill that hotbar with my birb's orders and a mount roulette icon.

12:30 <Schism> Hey Koopz.  A fun thing you can do with FFXIV macros: replace the icon on a certain hotbar with a DIFFERENT macro, so that you can hit the same button three times and get an entirely different ninja mudra.

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13:16 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Comic: Black Feather 1:18 / Our Town 1:3 / Rainbooms 1 / A Party 2 /  [ http://tinyurl.com/yaw583lz ]

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13:39 <Heartbreak> https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/382373024688504842/538003581513629696/heartbreak.png?width=124&height=241

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13:54 * OctaveSymphony boops Heartbreak

14:02 <Heartbreak> Gah!

14:02 * Heartbreak starts booping OctaveSymphony!!!!

14:03 <Cepheid> 5 degree weather.  Everything is suddenly melting leaving water-ice everywhere along with deep puddles of water.

14:03 <Heartbreak> Equestria Daily discord is alright.

14:03 * OctaveSymphony counter boops!

14:03 <Heartbreak> You know what discord actually sucks?

14:03 <Cepheid> Also a watermain broke outside the school so I have to take an alternate route in.

14:03 <Heartbreak> FimFiction Discord.

14:03 * Heartbreak widdershins boops OctaveSymphony!

14:04 <OctaveSymphony> Fet.

14:04 <Heartbreak> I'm all for admins enforcing rules. Rules are fine. Rules are meant to be followed.

14:04 <Heartbreak> But you don't have to be such a....

14:04 <Heartbreak> *RBDasher* about it...

14:05 * Heartbreak smirks at OctaveSymphony. "Nothing like Counter-counterclockwising a boop to counter all the boops!"

14:06 <Heartbreak> It's the boop to end all boops!

14:06 <OctaveSymphony> I'm not on the equestria daily discord, didn't even know they had one

14:06 <Heartbreak> Oh yeah...

14:06 <Cepheid> Not directed at you specifically but some people are that way about rules because people tend to be ignorant asses regarding rules.  If it occurs regularly, admins tend to get someone irritable about it and become more forceful about it.

14:06 <Heartbreak> EquDiscord is .... hyperactive.

14:08 <Heartbreak> Cepheid: It's cool, I feel ya, course, they have a -strick- 'no rp' rule. And that means, that *I* can't say "In my story, I figured out how to ride a bike."

14:08 <Cepheid> And users of Discord tend to be...  Somewhat ignorant of rules.  Or outright ignorant on the grounds of some law, statute or constitution in their native country.

14:08 <Heartbreak> And then share artwork detailing this rather precarious situation.

14:09 <Heartbreak> For me, and this is just me here, if you don't like a discord, and the admins are threatening to boot you forever for booping a random, then there is a muchy simple solution...

14:09 <Heartbreak> Create a New Discord.

14:10 <Heartbreak> Oh, sure. You're not as big, popular, or even official and you're going to have to invite all the individuals that you liked from discord X...

14:11 <Heartbreak> But really, when boiled all down from the bells, whistles, connection tools, transaction tools and the like...

14:11 <Heartbreak> Discords are the latest incarnation of the overglorified chat room.

14:11 <Cepheid> Pretty much.  That is one way to deal with it.

14:11 <Heartbreak> Admins and rules lawyers an all.

14:12 <Cepheid> Rules are in place for a reason, though.  Usually.

14:12 <Heartbreak> Usually.

14:12 <Heartbreak> But you still don't have to be a Dasher about it.

14:12 <Heartbreak> I needed to get that little rant out.

14:13 <Heartbreak> Cepheid: How have you been?

14:14 <Cepheid> Again, given the nature of some folks, the behaviour around enforcing may have a history.  I can recall a few periods in my life where people were pretty flagrant about ignoring rules.  As if their status as a liked individual protected them from backlash.  Admins, devs, and any type of folk who have elevated rights tend to get extremely annoyed about stuff like that.

14:15 <Cepheid> I've been good.  A bit lazy with regards to one class.  I'll be doing some work a bit last minute.  Stomach is churning, I don't think I drank enough water or ate enough food.

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14:18 <Cepheid> Oof.  It is getting worse.  Taking more and more to keep my stomach down.

14:20 <RazorSharpFang> I went to the gym yesterday, today I am sore.

14:21 <Heartbreak> Cepheid: if it gets really bad, you know what I'm going to tell you: Go to the doctor.

14:22 <Heartbreak> I'd rather be arguing with you while you're alive, rather than lamenting about all the arguments we could've had while you're hospitalized... or worse..

14:22 * Heartbreak boops Cepheid.

14:22 <Cepheid> It's just my meds.  The cause is mostly self-induced.

14:23 <Cepheid> Basically, one of my meds, I am supposed to eat a lot of food prior to taking it.  But I can't spend an hour preparing a bunch of food every morning.

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14:24 <Heartbreak> Cepheid: canned soup.

14:25 <Cepheid> Yes, yes.  A bowl of cereal, followed by canned soup, and then a trio of mandarins should probably suffice.  I'm lazy.

14:25 <Heartbreak> Breakfast of champions!

14:25 <Cepheid> I'll try it tomorrow to see how effective it is.

14:27 <Heartbreak> Just as long as you aren't yacking up your internal organs...

14:27 <Heartbreak> Or watering from the mouth...

14:27 <Heartbreak> You know the prelude to the aforementioned...

14:28 <Heartbreak> Fet, Jet did that one time for unknown reasons and just held his mouth open over a cup. When it finally stopped, there was a layer of saliva at the bottom...

14:29 <Heartbreak> And Jet was left with a feeling of "Why... just... Why?"

14:29 <Cepheid> Honestly the worst critical cases I have ever had were heat stroke, and suicidal ideation.  Other than that, I have never had to be admitted to hospital as an emergency.

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14:30 <Heartbreak> Jet's girlfffriend sliced her finger they other day on a broken mug as she was going out to work. Had to get stitches and what have you. Jet was quite freaked...

14:31 <Cepheid> Oh.  I guess there was also that time I broke my hand.  But that is minor.  Not an emergency.

14:34 <Cepheid> Still say the worst agony I have ever gone through was heatstroke, though.

14:35 <Cepheid> Couldn't stand.  Couldn't sit up.  Both states induced severe nausea.  Even if I could stand, I was dizzy as hell.  Felt like I was sweating buckets of water, but I was bone dry.  Intensely warm all over.

14:36 <Cepheid> The hospital gave me an immediate IV before even seeing a doctor.  That is unheard of for ke.  Medication of choice was liquid gravol and acetaminophen.

14:36 <Cepheid> Did nothing for the headache and nausea.

14:36 <Cepheid> All I could do was lay there quietly.

14:37 <Cepheid> Outside of that...  Also don't go getting pneumonia.  That stuff hurts too.

14:38 <Koopz> Schism you mean a 3-way exchange with 3 macros?

14:39 <Koopz> i was actually thinking of doing that for my bard's songs so i only have to hit one button instead of 3

14:39 <Cepheid> Oh.  They finally implemented that, did they?

14:39 <Cepheid> Back when I was playing, it wasn't possible.

14:40 <Koopz> well you can copy contents of hotbar buttons onto other buttons if i understood correctly

14:41 <Cepheid> Mmm.  Like I said, back when I played months ago, that wasn't viable.  Annoying.  Nice to see they changed that.

14:41 <Koopz> Hit Button 1, Macro: Cast A, copy content to button 4, copy button 2 content to button 1, copy button 3 content to button 2, copy button 4 content to button 3

14:41 <RazorSharpFang> Cepheid, do you know what the small Hiragana they put under Kanji are called?

14:42 <Cepheid> Not off hand no.

14:43 <Cepheid> Furigana.

14:44 <RazorSharpFang> I feel like I could use some Furigana sometimes. (A lot of the time)

14:44 <Cepheid> 振り仮名

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14:44 <Cepheid> And yeah.

14:45 <Cepheid> Their intended purpose is to be a learning aide.

14:46 <Cepheid> They are common in books aimed at teens or younger.

14:46 <Cepheid> And games.

14:46 <RazorSharpFang> 昨日私はジムに行きました。 今日は痛いです。(So much flipping Kanji) (Will post in pure Hiragana/Katakana)

14:46 <Cepheid> I wonder what will be covered today in class.

14:47 <Cepheid> Last week was a quiz, some practice with particles, and then negation of nouns.

14:48 <RazorSharpFang> きのうはジムにいきました。きょうはいたいです。(Yesterday I went to the gym. Today I am sore)

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14:48 <Koopz> i've gone through the hassle of learning Hiragana and Katakana... but Kanji seems like a big fat wall that's really really reaaaally hard to overcome

14:49 <RazorSharpFang> Yeah, it's a huge spike in difficulty. Gotta learn them individually and slowly.

14:49 * Cepheid points at his bag. "これはわたしのかばんです。"

14:49 <Cepheid> We start kanji next week, or the next schoolweek following.

14:49 <RazorSharpFang> Ooh, it's happening!

14:50 <Cepheid> Might get a bit of a headstart onnthe material.

14:50 <RazorSharpFang> I also finally managed to get Japanese input working for my desktop.

14:50 <Cepheid> Yeah.  Windows is  a bit weird for it.

14:50 <RazorSharpFang> So I no longer have to handwrite it using the mouse on google translate.

14:50 <Cepheid> Linux with ibus and anthy is easier.

14:51 <Koopz> i found it relatively easy setting up IME on Windows

14:51 <Cepheid> Microsofts IME also doesn't work too well with GTK apps.

14:51 <RazorSharpFang> I'm using Google IME myself.

14:51 <Cepheid> The issue I have Koopz is all the hardcoded shortcuts.

14:52 <RazorSharpFang> Shift+Alt to switch language. :3

14:52 <Cepheid> Anyways gotta run.  Switch coming up.

14:53 <Koopz> what's actually ticking me off is that MS IME apparently only supports english and japanese keyboard layouts for input

14:53 <Koopz> QWERTZ-lifes matter

14:55 <RazorSharpFang> Ah yes, various keyboard layouts.

14:55 <Koopz> how come IMEs haven't taken over the world by the way?

14:56 <Koopz> we've been enjoying the auto-suggested words on our smartphones for years, why do we still type everything manually on the desktop?

14:57 <RazorSharpFang> *shrug*

14:58 <Cepheid> I would sooner jab a knife in my hand than use autocorrect on a computer.

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14:59 <Koopz> why? it could help with all the nutjobs typing "could of" instead of "could have"

15:00 <RazorSharpFang> That's prescriptivist. I'm a descriptivist.

15:00 <Koopz> i'd jab a knife in my hand if my IDE wouldn't provide me autocompletion functionality

15:00 <Cepheid> Not my problem. They can make themselves continue to look like fools for all I care.

15:01 <RazorSharpFang> Coulda, shoulda, woulda.

15:01 <Koopz> reading "of" just triggers an urge to bite my keyboard

15:01 <Cepheid> There is a distinct difference between autocorrect/autocomplete for a communication language versus autocomplete for a programming languagr

15:02 <RazorSharpFang> You should have of course.

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15:04 <Cepheid> Hmm.

15:05 <RazorSharpFang> If you want autocorrect you can get grammarly or something.

15:05 <Koopz> i want word suggestions

15:05 <RazorSharpFang> "I want my computer to tell me what to write" is what it sounds like.

15:06 <Cepheid> 2 + 4 + 4 = 10.  10 * 10404 = 104040.  Divide by 4, thats... 26010?

15:06 <Cepheid> Yep.

15:07 <Cepheid> Though now that I think about it, that doesn't solve my problem.

15:07 <Koopz> if our behaviour of how we write our texts can be analyzed and used to predict which words we'd most likely type next on our keyboard, i don't see why that feature shouldn't be available on our desktops

15:07 <Cepheid> That said, I can still use the idea to solve a problem..

15:08 <Cepheid> Koopz, I'll allow it on one, very strict requirement.

15:08 <Cepheid> It can be turned off.

15:08 <RazorSharpFang> Koopz, it /can/ but you'd have to get an app to do it for you. As default behaviour, that's likely to be more annoying than useful.

15:09 <Koopz> like i said, i'd prefer word suggestions, not autocorrect

15:09 <Koopz> i've been using SwiftKey for several years now and their algorithm is doing a really good job

15:10 <Koopz> of course there's the security risk, with you typing passwords and a cloud service knowing everything you type

15:11 <Koopz> Google explicitly warns you about that stuff when you choose to switch your phone's default keyboard app

15:12 <Koopz> a problem that may rise from relying too much on such an algorithm that's supposed to help you save time is that your vocabulary might shrink over time...

15:14 <RazorSharpFang> I'm happy to type everything, as I've got a good typing speed, and really I can type faster than I can think of words to type most of the time anyhow.

15:15 <Koopz> you hate the tab key, don't ya

15:15 <Cepheid> Really thebonly thing I need or like autocorrect for is when I am typing a word I momentarily forgot how to spell.  Or cases of words that are known to cause confusion when spelling.

15:16 <Cepheid> Who here can spell 'bureaucracy' without looking it up first?

15:17 <Koopz> i could've done that

15:17 <RazorSharpFang> Koopz, what do you mean hating the tab key? Why would someone hate the tab key.

15:17 <Koopz> :)

15:17 <RazorSharpFang> Cepheid, I would get tripped up on "Bourgeoisie" "Proletariat" back before I started arguing with communists/socialists.

15:17 <Koopz> tab, the one autocompletion key to rule them all

15:18 <RazorSharpFang> For me, tab just navigates between input areas/functions.

15:19 <Koopz> hmm... experiences may differ, since my cursor blinks in a huge "Textarea" the whole day

15:20 <RazorSharpFang> Me, I fail to see why such a thing would need to be operating on an OS-level rather than a specific application-input.

15:21 <Finwe> Good afternoon, my small equines of various pastel colours.

15:21 <Koopz> RAdm. Finwe o7

15:21 <Finwe> Capt Koopz, Messrs RazorSharpFang and Cepheid.

15:21 <Finwe> o7

15:22 <Cepheid> Nice to see the wifi around here is reliable as ever.  *2 bars, constant drops.*

15:22 <Koopz> well it'd only be logical to make such an input method available for the whole system since the smartphones do it too, as well as IME (which might get disabled by applications though)

15:23 <RazorSharpFang> Place your phone against the router.

15:23 <Koopz> the Windows on-screen keyboard suggests words too

15:24 <Cepheid> Truth told, there's a lot of problems in standardizing IME.  No one organization seems to have any understanding of how best to implement it.

15:24 <Cepheid> Even *WITH* standards defined.

15:25 <Cepheid> Turns out organizations that implement software are comprised of a bunch of programmers bossed around by morons.

15:27 <Koopz> makes you wish there was an OS which would define the standards software developers have to comply with in order to ensure that things work with each other properly, huh?

15:27 <Cepheid> Not a single danged OS out there that does that.

15:27 <Cepheid> They try, oh, they try

15:27 <Cepheid> But it never happens.

15:28 <Cepheid> The short gist of it, is that it's too costly to implement standards, unless they are standards designed to reduce costs.

15:28 <Koopz> i'm pretty sure Android doesn't let you write a custom keyboard application that completely ignores their APIs

15:28 <Cepheid> And sometimes, even those standards may be beat out by simply having to pay any associated legal fees should a lawsuit be filed.

15:43 <Cepheid> So I named a persona for my HCI class "Jack B. Nimble" because I suck at names.

15:44 <Koopz> Jack B. Quick

15:47 <Cepheid> Jack B. Dead

15:47 <Koopz> Johnny B. Good

15:56 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Armosk: Friendship is Magic - 'Ail-icorn' 🌡️ Official Short [ http://tinyurl.com/ydgfv44e ]

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16:03 <Cepheid> Mmm.  ごぜんじゅういちじはん, almost.

16:10 <Cepheid> You know, it dawned on me that although I have never completed a large project, I do have work I can add to a portfolio.

16:10 <RazorSharpFang> `午前十一時半` as in 11:30 AM?

16:11 <Cepheid> Portfolios aren't meant to contain large projects.  They are meant to contain samples of your code.  With references to larger projects if folks are interested.

16:11 <Cepheid> Yes.

16:11 <Cepheid> My class is at 11:30 AM.

16:11 <Cepheid> I'll start using kanji when we get to them.  I mean I could look them up now and start practicing, but...

16:12 <Cepheid> That said doing the numbers now might not be a bad idea.

16:14 <RazorSharpFang> Eh, from what I've seen in Japanese media so far, it's real common to use `10` instead of `十`.

16:24 <Cepheid> Japanese media and general writing, arabic numbers is pretty commonplace now.

16:24 <Cepheid> Whether they are acceptable with counters is a good question though.

16:26 <Cepheid> Like, for instance, 32さいです。

16:27 <Cepheid> Or 3ねんせいです。

16:29 <Heartbreak> Are we speaking nihongo?

16:32 <RazorSharpFang> `三年生です` for being in the third-grade.

16:32 <RazorSharpFang> For me, it doesn't look right without it being in the Kanji.

16:33 <Cepheid> Apparently arabic numbers acceptable.  And nowadays is more common due to computers.

16:33 <Cepheid> And ease of typing.

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16:51 <RazorSharpFang> Anyhow, I'm off to sleep. Good night. おやすみなさい。

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16:56 <Vulpor> I played Apex Legends

16:56 <Vulpor> Pretty cool

16:56 <LibrarianofHope> hoi

16:57 <LibrarianofHope> got into wargroove myself

16:57 <LibrarianofHope> its awesome

16:57 <LibrarianofHope> fantasy advance wars with great gameplay and a labrador knight

16:59 <Vulpor> what platform is it on?

16:59 <LibrarianofHope> switch xbox and play if remember right

17:00 <LibrarianofHope> i got it on switch

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17:01 <Vulpor> Cool

17:01 <Vulpor> I honestly though do not love battle royals

17:01 <Vulpor> there is no real progression

17:02 <Vulpor> I am earning "skins" that dont impact gameplay and my level has no real impact its toatally a casual game

17:03 <Vulpor> which is fine but I niether have the time or want to "get good" at these type of games

17:03 <LibrarianofHope> least the streamers are funny

17:03 * Finwe noms on Vulpor's tail.

17:04 <Finwe> Messrs LibrarianofHope and Vulpor.

17:04 * Finwe doffs his hat.

17:04 * LibrarianofHope doffs vulpor

17:04 <Vulpor> oh I got cussed out in my first match

17:04 <Vulpor> because I was not "playing right"

17:05 <Vulpor> Going to try For Honor

17:05 <LibrarianofHope> its to be expected

17:05 <LibrarianofHope> that was fun

17:05 <LibrarianofHope> might be deserted now

17:05 <Vulpor> Apex is only been out for a day

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17:06 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Fanfiction (Scouted):  Starlight Glimmer Fixes Everything  [ http://tinyurl.com/y9fcbygy ]

17:06 <LibrarianofHope> seems my acid reflux anxiety attack settled for the day

17:09 <Vulpor> No what I mean is Apex legends has only been out for a day and I already am getting the "get good" comments

17:10 <Vulpor> this will not pull people away from Overwatch or Blackout or Fortnite

17:11 <Vulpor> this thing seems fun but the population of the game will be here and gone in a month

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17:13 <Vulpor> I also have decided to not care about the games industry as a whole

17:13 <Vulpor> I dont care that Metro Exedus is on the Epic Store

17:14 <Vulpor> I dont care if a game developer says something dumb

17:14 <Vulpor> Is the game fun or not?

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17:28 <DerbyFloat> LibrarianofHope: yo.

17:29 <LibrarianofHope> hoi

17:30 <LibrarianofHope> owo a fall

17:30 <LibrarianofHope> hoi fall

17:30 <Fall> Hellew!

17:35 <LibrarianofHope> so, ali defeated you in a match for da powah?

17:37 <Fall> I bow to the superior when appropriate

17:40 <Schism> Hmmmm.  It's plausible that the CEO of Quadriga, a cryptocurrency exchange, has in fact faked his own death to flee with the profits.

17:40 <Schism> Anyway, hiyas, Fall.  Welcome back!

17:41 <Fall> Thank you!

17:41 <Schism> How've ya been?

17:47 <Finwe> Miss DerbyFloat, Mr Schism.

17:47 * Finwe doffs his hat.

17:48 <Fall> I've been grand. Very far away from ponies though

17:50 * DerbyFloat sticks one of Finwe's hooves in her mouth

17:55 * Finwe hoof-wiggles.

17:55 <Finwe> !plot

17:55 <DerpyBot> *wigglewiggle*

17:55 <Finwe> *wigglewiggle*

17:56 <Schism> *wigglewiggle*

17:58 <DerbyFloat> *wigglewiggle*

17:59 <Fall> *wigglewig-* /breaks hip

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18:08 <LibrarianofHope> fall has fallen owo

18:09 * Fall will rise

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18:33 <LibrarianofHope> thelemaaaa

18:33 <LibrarianofHope> hoi

18:36 <LibrarianofHope> how can you not have acid reflux i was wondering

18:36 <LibrarianofHope> im dying everymorning from acid pains

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18:42 <LibrarianofHope> ali hoi

18:42 <LibrarianofHope> fall returned for a final battle

18:42 <Ali> final battle?

18:42 * Ali licks Fall

18:43 * Fall is defeated

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18:44 <Fall> How's the craic

18:45 <Finwe> Miss Ali, Mr Fall.

18:45 * Finwe doffs a LibrarianofHope.

18:45 <Ali> The what now?

18:45 * Ali boops Fall with Hydroid Krasis

18:45 <Fall> Whoops need to brb

18:45 * Ali nuuus

18:46 <Finwe> o3o

18:46 * Ali doffs over Finwe for now

18:46 <Cepheid> Schism, I am torn.

18:46 <Schism> Should I get a needle and thread?

18:47 <Cepheid> The legendary Etrian series is ending on the 3DS with no indication of moving to the Switch.

18:47 <Schism> grah.

18:47 <Cepheid> I do not want the series to end, but it must.  With that in mind...

18:48 <Cepheid> I want to continue it spiritually.  I am wondering if perhaps I should make that spiritual successor.

18:48 <Cepheid> Rather than the La-Mulana clone.

18:49 <Cepheid> Call it being overdramatic about it, but that series holds deep meaning for me.  It helped me stay sane during certain periods.

18:49 <Cepheid> Even if the stories were ridiculous, just the act of exploring and mapping things out, it filled my need for exploration, similar to La-Mulana.

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18:53 <Schism> No sense you couldn't make both...

18:53 <Schism> Ahem, reason, not sense.  Bleh, I am le tired.

18:53 <LibrarianofHope> least us fire emblem bois got a revival

18:53 <LibrarianofHope> Pardon my french

18:53 <Ali> And then they took over smash :P

18:53 <LibrarianofHope> le woof

18:57 <Cepheid> It is true I can work on two projects at once, but that may be too much with my current load.

18:57 <Cepheid> That said, I devised a theme and structure to use for the world already.

19:02 <LibrarianofHope> dont overload, last thing you need is burnout

19:10 <Cepheid> Indeed.

19:11 <Cepheid> But it is strange.  My brain is having an easier timd divising a story to work with.

19:12 * Fall bops Ali back with nineteen foil Persistent Petitioners

19:12 <Cepheid> Probably because the basic goal of the series was to ascend to the top, or descend to the bottom.

19:12 * Ali thinks Fall is going a bit overboard with those guys

19:13 <Fall> My aim is 101

19:13 <Cepheid> As such, story-wise, all one needs to consider is the reason behind the structure's presence, and what resides at the end.  The rest is picking multiple themes, and/or lore associated with the structure.

19:14 <Cepheid> The nature of the structure can change too.  Location, style, how it is approached..

19:14 <LibrarianofHope> thats the fun part

19:14 * Ali does show Fall her two Hydroid Crasis

19:15 <Fall> Very cool. I don't think I've even seen one

19:15 <LibrarianofHope> wut?

19:15 <Ali> He's...interesting

19:16 <LibrarianofHope> sounds like either gatorade or a monster

19:16 <Ali> Its a Jellyfish Hydra Beast

19:17 <Fall> Not much gator

19:17 <Ali> There is scuddlegator

19:18 <Fall> That's the Equestria version of Skuttlegator

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19:24 <LibrarianofHope> is the weird jellyfish dangerous?

19:26 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: <unspecified> [ http://tinyurl.com/yc8ztdpo ]

19:33 <Cepheid> Hells alive, it's too warm in here.

19:33 <Cepheid> It's not like it's -30 outside.

19:33 <Cepheid> It's..

19:33 <Cepheid> -5C right now.

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19:33 <Cepheid> -14C with wind.

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19:54 <Cepheid> "What do you do when the user's mental model is distinct from the system/user interface?" - Prof.  "Take a foam bat to them?" - Me

19:54 <Cepheid> I'm a terrible person.

19:55 <Cepheid> In reality, there are two answers:  Educate the user, or redesign the UI.

19:59 <LibrarianofHope> i like the bat

20:00 <Cepheid> My brain exists within two eras of programming at the same time, so it wants to apply ideas from both.

20:00 <Cepheid> In the past, it used to be that the programmer designed the UI based on requirements, and left it up to the users to figure out the UI.

20:00 <Cepheid> Now, we have to ask the user what they want for the UI, alongside all the requirements.  We also need to know about the various mental models.

20:01 <Cepheid> For example, a button.  When we press the button, we expect something to happen in response.

20:01 <Cepheid> If it didn't do anything in response, or anything visible in response, then it shouldn't look like a button.

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20:06 <LibrarianofHope> im all for intuitive style

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20:43 <Cepheid> Fun note, I'm not sure I can trust the benchmarks of CPUs and such, now.

20:44 <Cepheid> I've found over time, my PC has "improved" over time in performance.  Initial setup of the system, it felt a bit sluggish.  But as the components started to get burned in, thermal paste hardened, etc..

20:44 <Cepheid> Performance, responsiveness improved.

20:44 <Cepheid> But that took weeks upon weeks to occur.

20:44 <AppleDash> I think we call that "getting used to the performance"

20:44 <Cepheid> Nah.

20:45 <Cepheid> I notice a distinct difference between when I first used the hardware when it was brand new and now.

20:46 <Cepheid> Not the first time I noticed this, either.  Same happened with laptop over time.  Other theory is simply that the software running on it is updated over time and uses hardware more efficiently, especially if the underlying compiler used to build the software receives regular updates.

20:47 <AppleDash> That is the more likely case

20:49 <Cepheid> Anyhow, time to run off.

20:50 <LibrarianofHope> i ate a wrong banana

20:50 <LibrarianofHope> stomach ache again

20:51 <Schism> Congratulations to CBC for excellent reporting on the whole Phoenix thing.

20:51 <Schism> (IBM did not bid on the contract, at all.)

20:58 <Cepheid> So game hath arrived.

20:59 <Cepheid> I neex four victims for the Misfits primary squad.

20:59 <Cepheid> Need*

21:00 <Lunanightwind> cepheid are you using in game benchmarks or more traditional tools

21:01 <Lunanightwind> just asking cuz as patches drop optimization can be improved for your specific hardware which could improve your benchmarks

21:01 <Cepheid> Not benchmarking software.

21:02 <Cepheid> I am basing it on responsiveness and timing of computational tasks.

21:02 <Lunanightwind> yeah could just be opimizations improving your stuff

21:02 <Cepheid> So for example, load times of applications, compilation processes, and the like.

21:02 <Lunanightwind> like my RTX 2070 i expect to get better benches over time because of optimization improvements

21:02 <Cepheid> Indeed.

21:03 <Cepheid> Schism.  Should I expect you as a sacrifice for the Nexus labyrinth?

21:06 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Pony Community Soapbox #128 - Communal Pony Bathing, Fan Pandering, and More [ http://tinyurl.com/y7y8tljc ]

21:08 <Cepheid> I learned a disturbing fact about one of the profs in the CS department.

21:09 <Cepheid> The professor has a webpage dedicated to the history of a historic, dead leader's genitals.

21:10 <LibrarianofHope> having the dread knowledge i have, im not really impressed

21:11 <Cepheid> Apparently it's about Napoleon's wang.

21:12 <LibrarianofHope> meh

21:13 <LibrarianofHope> friggin banana gave me a headache

21:15 <Cepheid> Is that even possible?

21:22 * Sleeping_Nightmares mewls

21:22 * Sleeping_Nightmares nomfs Lunanightwind

21:22 <Lunanightwind> hey

21:22 <Lunanightwind> whats up sleeping_nightmares?

21:24 <Schism> Cepheid: perhaps, perhaps.

21:24 <Schism> Also, with everyone snowed in, why not watch a delightful comedy about a family who's also snowed in?  Shining is the story of Jack, a writer who's trying to reconnect with his family.

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21:29 <Cepheid> What type of role would you like?

21:29 <Cepheid> Tank, DPS, Healer.

21:30 <Schism> May as well do the healer role.  Though Hexer would also work.

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21:34 <Cepheid> I'll write up a quick overview of the classes when I get home.

21:35 <Cepheid> It is a long list though.  Etrian Odyssey Nexus is known as Etrian Odyssey X, or Cross in Japan.

21:35 <Cepheid> In other words, all of the games are in some way connected to it.  Classes from every game are available.

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21:54 * Sleeping_Nightmares shivers at Finwe and snugglies into his belly

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21:56 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: (Updated) Ponify a Video Game Character Open Art Event - The Submissions!  [ http://tinyurl.com/ybv6jtq7 ]

22:06 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Drawfriend Stuff (Pony Art Gallery) #2883 [ http://tinyurl.com/y8jhdpmp ]

22:11 <Cepheid> Hum, any firmware updates I have to do before I update the 3DS base firmware?

22:12 <Cepheid> Nope.

22:15 <Cepheid> Right then, let's get this started.

22:15 <Cepheid> And DLC is...

22:16 <Cepheid> Bah, needs repeated system updates.

22:17 <Cepheid> Really should grab a 3DS SDK, and toy with the device.

22:19 <Cepheid> Hum.  Etrian Odyssey 1 through 3 are trees 1 through 3.  Then there's 4, and 5.  With Nexus, that's 6..  The game mentions 7 trees.

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22:21 <Cepheid> Actually, no.  It's 8 trees.  Seven trees appear to be part of the lore, but an 8th tree appeared.

22:21 <LibrarianofHope> a new challenger appears

22:21 * LibrarianofHope does bookuken

22:21 <Cepheid> Assuming the Mystery Dungeon games are counted..

22:21 <Cepheid> That'd be 7 trees from games 1 through 5, and the two mystery dungeon games.

22:22 <Cepheid> DLC is no quest-based stuff this time around.  Well, except for the booster quests.

22:23 <Cepheid> But those make the game easier, why bother?

22:23 <Cepheid> Meanwhile, the rest are all portraits.

22:23 <LibrarianofHope> you researching classes for creation purposes?

22:23 <Cepheid> Too many to bother.

22:24 <Cepheid> I'll be grouping them into broad categories.

22:24 <Cepheid> Nexus takes classes from the entire series, plus adding it's own, so..

22:24 <LibrarianofHope> i never got into etrian besides mistery dungeon

22:25 * Cepheid shrugs. Different games for different folks.

22:25 <LibrarianofHope> i dont like dont seen my characters

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22:25 <Cepheid> Yeah, the Mystery Dungeon makes it a bit weird in that regard.

22:25 <Cepheid> Oh, wait, double negative.

22:25 <Cepheid> You mean you prefer to see your characters.

22:26 <LibrarianofHope> yes

22:26 <LibrarianofHope> just came back from an anxiety relief walk, i seetling in

22:26 <Cepheid> All I know is that I'll be constructing a team of misfits.

22:27 <Cepheid> I am, of course, taking the role of punching pag.  Schism is likely going to be healer or debuffer.  Depends on what role ADragonDreaming desires.

22:27 <Cepheid> Geezus, these free portrait sets are large.

22:27 <Cepheid> Must be some high quality ones.

22:29 <LibrarianofHope> the last i been playing has a dog commanding two crosswbowers to kill the oppenent while he does a doggy thing like belly up

22:29 <Cepheid> Heh.

22:29 <Cepheid> All the free portrait sets appear to be portraits from EO1 through 5.  The only paid portrait set thus far is a bikini set for the Hero class.

22:29 <LibrarianofHope> the sprite work is awesome, i think the stardew valley team did it

22:30 <LibrarianofHope> japanese stuff always has that

22:30 <LibrarianofHope> even fire emblem

22:30 <Cepheid> I'll be honest.

22:30 <Cepheid> It's not just Japan that'd do it.

22:30 <Cepheid> Pretty sure had Japan not overdone it with practically every game, we'd also notice that Western developers do it too.

22:30 <LibrarianofHope> but is a very animeis trope

22:31 <LibrarianofHope> western stuff wouldnt really work

22:31 <Cepheid> No, but it does happen.

22:32 <LibrarianofHope> of the top of my head would be lollipop chainsaw

22:32 <Cepheid> It's just not as common because western culture is all "OH MY GOD SKIN SHOWING IS EVIL!  But ye know, seeing that guy's guts hanging out as blood sprays from his neck stump is okay."

22:32 <LibrarianofHope> right?

22:32 <LibrarianofHope> weird message

22:33 <LibrarianofHope> yet anime girl range from 15 to 17 mostly

22:33 <LibrarianofHope> have i ever told you the lesson i got from visting akihabara ?

22:33 <Cepheid> Nah.

22:34 <LibrarianofHope> i went to tokio for an axa convention

22:34 <Fall> Giant 3D boob billboards are a real thing?

22:35 <LibrarianofHope> i didnnt saw any

22:35 <Cepheid> I know which billboards you are talking about, Fall, and yes, they were real.

22:35 <Fall> Definitely the main thing I remember from my trip

22:35 <Cepheid> It was for a later season of Highschool of the Dead.

22:35 <LibrarianofHope> i went to gamers, the legendary store, and bought thingies

22:36 <Cepheid> Geezus.

22:36 <LibrarianofHope> then my b ro and i ran around and ended up in a random high rise

22:36 <Cepheid> Four difficulties.

22:36 <Cepheid> Picnic, for story-mode folks.  Basic, presumably for those new to such games.

22:36 <Cepheid> Then Expert, then Heroic.

22:37 <Cepheid> ...

22:37 <Cepheid> I'm not sure which difficulty corresponds to normal difficulty in comparison to the original games.

22:37 <LibrarianofHope> we got to the top, a store selling softcore nsfw

22:37 <Cepheid> I'm going to assume Expert.  Heroic is likely Hard difficulty.

22:37 <Cepheid> LibrarianofHope, that's not unexpected.

22:37 <Cepheid> I mean hell, I know of like, three such stores in Ottawa alone.

22:38 <LibrarianofHope> the crushing feeling of embarrasment and sadness made me swear off being like those guys

22:38 <Cepheid> To each their own.

22:38 <Cepheid> So long as you like, don't look down on me for it.

22:38 <LibrarianofHope> you are probably taller than me

22:38 <Cepheid> You know what I mean.

22:39 <Cepheid> Schism:  Hey, Hey Schism.

22:39 <Cepheid> We have Picnic, Basic, Expert, and Heroic difficulty.

22:39 <LibrarianofHope> i did not mean to look down at them

22:39 <Cepheid> Which one should I choose?

22:39 <LibrarianofHope> expert

22:41 <Cepheid> Picnic:  "For those who like a walk in the park."  Basic:  "For those who enjoy overcoming trials."  Expert:  "For the fearless who love a challenge."  Heroic:  "For those who strive for great heights."

22:41 <Cepheid> Honestly, I'm inclined to do Heroic, to make the game "last"

22:42 <Cepheid> Heroic is the difficulty that matches previous games.

22:42 <Cepheid> When you select the hardest difficulty in EO4 and EO5, the game locks the difficulty, so you can't drop it.

22:42 <Cepheid> Heroic's the one that does that here.

22:43 <Cepheid> So we're going for gold, boys and girls.  Heroic difficulty.  The Misfit's final trial.

22:45 <Cepheid> Okay, wow.

22:45 <Cepheid> The characters are still geared up in medieval-style gear.

22:46 <Cepheid> But the technological level appears to be far beyond our current technological advancement.

22:49 <Cepheid> 19 classes to choose from the start..

22:50 <Cepheid> Hero, Protector, Medic, Survivalist, Ronin, War Magus, Highlander, Gunner, Sovereign, Ninja, Zodiac, Farmer, Shogun, Landsknecht, Nightseeker, Arcanist, Imperial, Pugilist(Oooh... Maybe I should take that instead of tanking...) and Harbinger.

22:51 <Cepheid> I'd need a tank, though.  Librarian, I expect you'd be a mage, based on your name.  A person who reads lotsa books and knows lots of arcane secrets.

22:56 <Cepheid> Wow, the customization is a bit much this time.  Any character, regardless of class, can pick any appearance from any other class, including the DLC choices, which include *ALL* the portraits from each of the games the set is related to.

22:56 * Cepheid takes the farmer with the rolling pin. Hilarious.

22:57 <LibrarianofHope> mage yes

22:57 <LibrarianofHope> i even have my own hat

22:59 <Cepheid> Hum, looks like it's just Japanese VAs this time.  Not complaining.  The voices are usually just variations of "HAAAA!" "HYAAA!"  "HYUP!" and so on.

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23:00 <Cepheid> Mage... That'd be Zodiac.

23:03 <Cepheid> Hmmm... Dreamer, Healer.  Schism...  Arcanist, for debuffing.

23:05 <LibrarianofHope> i want to make my inuniverse class compendium

23:05 <LibrarianofHope> two new antoganist were forged from some songs, good stuff

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23:11 * Filly_Nightmares sneezies

23:12 <PinkieShy> To OwO or to not OwO that is the question.

23:12 * PinkieShy hands Filly_Nightmares a napkin

23:13 * Filly_Nightmares eats the napkin and sneezies at PinkieShy

23:13 <Cepheid> Oh gods, the creepy shopowner from EO3 is the shopowner of this game.

23:15 <Cepheid> Why does the name "Lemuria" sound so familiar?

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23:19 <Schism> Cepheid: Ancient ruins.

23:19 <Schism> And a hypothetical island of wondrous mystery.

23:20 <Schism> Think 'Atlantis', and you're close.

23:22 * Filly_Nightmares eee

23:22 <Schism> Helena Blavatsky was a loon, but she's fun to read.  Wrote about seven ancient races created by a Mother... oh wait.

23:22 * Filly_Nightmares sick eee

23:22 * Schism eees at Filly_Nightmares, and offers some vegetable soop...!

23:22 * Filly_Nightmares licks up soup and rolls onto her back

23:23 <Mr`Ed> hello

23:23 <Cepheid> Schism:  Heh.

23:25 <Cepheid> Hum, so we got an overworld map.  Doesn't look like every area is immediately a maze.

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23:30 <LibrarianofHope> mr ed, on a talking horse show

23:30 <LibrarianofHope> old school mlp

23:30 <Cepheid> The tree appears to be set within a depression within the world.  It is surrounded by waterfalls everywhere.  Hum.

23:31 * Cepheid sends Schism off to catch some murderous fish.

23:33 <Cepheid> Somehow, Schism, an arcanist, pulled a fish larger than himself out of the lake.

23:33 * Schism wraps Filly_Nightmares in warm, warm blankets... and blinks at that. "Well, I do have FSH 70."

23:33 * LibrarianofHope uses the eeee as bait

23:33 * Filly_Nightmares skreee

23:34 <LibrarianofHope> this will either get a big one or the eeee eats the fish

23:34 <LibrarianofHope> lets do it for science!

23:35 <Cepheid> Hmm.

23:35 <Cepheid> Force Gauge is back.  But reworked.

23:36 <Cepheid> There's Force and Break abilities.  They both drain the gauge to 0%.

23:36 <Cepheid> But Break abilities go even further.  They prevent further Force or Break attacks afterwards.

23:36 <Cepheid> Basically, trump card abilities.

23:41 <Cepheid> ...

23:41 <Cepheid> Really, Atlus?

23:42 <Cepheid> You're throwing poison at me *NOW*?

23:45 <Cepheid> First Stratum.  Eastern Shrine.

23:47 <Schism> Poison and negative status ailments, right off the bat, huh?

23:51 * PinkieShy hands Schism a statue of Miku

23:54 <Cepheid> Yep.

23:54 <Cepheid> Also, Break is even worse in some cases.

23:55 <Cepheid> The Zodiac's Break deals multi-elemental damage, all 3 elements.

23:55 <Cepheid> But it costs not just the Force power, but the ENTIRE PARTY'S TP.

23:56 <LibrarianofHope> sooooo

23:56 <LibrarianofHope> im so awesome i tire other people?

23:57 <Cepheid> Yes.

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