00:06 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Drawfriend - Equestria Girls / Anthro MLP Art Gallery #81 [ http://tinyurl.com/y7n69pyq ]
00:35 <Schism> "The film runs for about nine minutes, but I'm going to show you only 90 seconds of it, because that's all you'll need... in your entire life." --Stuart Ashens on Don't Copy That Floppy.
00:41 <Cepheid> Blah to crash-to-desktops.
00:42 <Cepheid> On the upside, I caught up to ADra.
00:45 <Cepheid> Hmm. Ancient Bones..
00:46 <Cepheid> Ah, Ancient Forest Bonepiles.
00:51 <Cepheid> Might as well use the rest of my evening to craft gear I am missing.
00:51 <Cepheid> Like the Dragonbone stuff.
00:57 <Cepheid> So I uh, did something incredibly stupid.
00:58 <Cepheid> Long story short, I wanted to know what it was like to take the seraquell at near-max dose, as my sister's psych and mine says it's safe to take up to 100mg. So I uh, experimented and took 75.
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01:06 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Hypothetical Discussion: Generation 5 Isn't Ponies! What Animal Do You Choose Instead? [ http://tinyurl.com/ybyo24f8 ]
01:06 <Cepheid> !log
01:06 <Unixkitty> https://unixkitty.com/logs/EquestriaDaily/latest.log.html
01:09 <PinkieShy> I guess we now see.. If Spongebob gets played at superbowl :D
01:10 <PinkieShy> That would be indeed the best thing ever.. lol
01:11 <PinkieShy> spongebob!!!! :D
01:11 <PinkieShy> They did it!!!!
01:12 <PinkieShy> Squidward said a line about someone that needs no introduction and spongebob appeared lol
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01:37 * thelema5 comes barreling into the chat, eyes watering
01:37 <thelema5> holy moley Colman Mujstard, have mercy!
01:38 <Ali> something spicy thelema5?
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01:40 <Schism> Ali: Colman mustard is very strong. o3o It's delicious, and comes in little jars.
01:40 <Cepheid> Schism: So, Yelp apparently implemented an AI to help with stuff. It deleted everything.
01:40 <Ali> Pft
01:40 <Schism> Snrk.
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01:42 <Cepheid> "Hunting Horn Trivia: First Wyverian Statistics: Hunting Horns are the least favourite weapon with only 1% of hunters using it."
01:42 <Cepheid> I'm the 1%. Dangit.
01:44 <PinkieShy> heh
01:44 <PinkieShy> Someone suggested we take this avatar with a crying emote to a pug with like 10 of us using it and run up to random people using the crying emote lol
01:44 <PinkieShy> That would be confusing.
01:48 * DerbyFloat chews on thelema5's whole nick instead
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01:59 * Cepheid sits about, swaying, slack-jawed.
02:00 <Cepheid> ε3ʘ I feel rweird..
02:00 <DerbyFloat> I imagine lol
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02:09 <Cepheid> What's weird about all this is that the only reason I am trying 75mg is because my sister was advised to take 100mg, and she mentioned being buzzed out of her gourd. o3o
02:09 <DerbyFloat> that isn't weird tho
02:26 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Nightly Discussion #1700 [ http://tinyurl.com/ycehv2g5 ]
02:31 <PinkieShy> DerbyFloat this happened at the superbowl half time https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGDIRgcL96o
02:33 <Ali> Superb owl is a yawner this year, along with the commercials
02:39 <DerbyFloat> video unavailable PinkieShy but meh
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03:04 * thelema5 does some sort of sport-ball kinda thing
03:05 * DerbyFloat licks thelema5
03:06 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Makenshi: More Pony Music! Stygian, Discord, Mane-iac, and Starlight tracks! [ http://tinyurl.com/ycm4gehc ]
03:08 * PinkieShy licks Thelema5 and DerbyFloat
03:09 * DerbyFloat chews on PinkieShy's hooves
03:11 * thelema5 tastes like a beyond bratwurst
03:12 <thelema5> With sauerkraut and colman's mustard
03:12 <DerbyFloat> I probably should comission some art of DerbyFloat, but I'm still unsure
03:12 <DerbyFloat> anyway how's the thelema5?
03:17 <thelema5> Meh. Did nothing today. How are you>
03:17 <thelema5> ?
03:18 <PinkieShy> heh
03:18 <PinkieShy> I didn't know school house rock did a music song thingy on the national debt.
03:18 <PinkieShy> They called it Tyrannosaurus Debt
03:18 <PinkieShy> It said "Measured in the billions of the national debt".. Nowadays that would be trillions
03:19 <thelema5> I don't know that I've heard that one
03:20 <PinkieShy> thelema5 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0efqnvYz4YI :3
03:28 <thelema5> PinkieShy, thanks
03:30 <DerbyFloat> nor did I, I'm ok I guess still stuck on things
03:36 * thelema5 nods
03:39 <PinkieShy> Welp.. I'm calling dr up tomorrow..
03:40 <PinkieShy> Hopefully they'll get to the bottom of this pain.
03:40 <PinkieShy> Some people told me chances are all the dr would do is prescribe pain killers.. that's all..
03:41 <thelema5> Maybe, if they're a crap doctor.
03:42 <thelema5> Unfortunately, the more investigating they do the more expensive it gets
03:42 <PinkieShy> My dr i don't think is..
03:42 <PinkieShy> I told her about the floaters in my eye a year ago and they did something odd.. I think to check for cloudiness or anything like that..
03:42 <PinkieShy> They did a green light..
03:43 <thelema5> That's good. I remember you going through that. What ever happened to it?
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03:44 <PinkieShy> The floater is still there.
03:44 <PinkieShy> I guess its part of life, and is staying part of my life.
03:44 <PinkieShy> Until the day i go blind or die.
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03:53 * DerbyFloat rides around on thelema5
03:56 * thelema5 plods along, tired and sore
03:57 <thelema5> Sorry, I'm not a good mount today. Tird and sore from three days of snow removal
03:58 <DerbyFloat> what even is snow lol
04:02 <ADragonDreaming> frozen water
04:03 <DerbyFloat> that's ice
04:06 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: <unspecified> [ http://tinyurl.com/y7ov5zhr ]
04:06 <Finwe> Good morning, everypony!
04:07 <Finwe> Mlles Ali, DerbyFloat and Filly_Nightmares; Messrs thelema5, PinkieShy and Schism.
04:07 * Finwe doffs his hat.
04:07 <thelema5> Fluffy ice
04:07 <thelema5> o7
04:07 * DerbyFloat droolls on Finwe
04:08 <DerbyFloat> it's been so long since I've seen any
04:08 <Finwe> Why am I awake at 6 a.m.?
04:09 <DerbyFloat> reasons
04:10 <thelema5> Good question
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04:14 * Filly_Nightmares sneezies at Finwe
04:14 * Filly_Nightmares curls up on him and shivers
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05:06 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Nightly Roundup #1482 [ http://tinyurl.com/y7977ndv ]
05:16 * DerbyFloat drifts off to her cot
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06:39 * Finwe is warm an cosy.
06:39 * Finwe snuggles a Filly_Nightmares for warms.
06:40 * Filly_Nightmares mewls at Finwe! She is sick floof!
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06:51 * Ali blankets Filly_Nightmares and gives soup
07:00 * Filly_Nightmares flops
07:30 * Ali puts the blanket back onto Filly_Nightmares
07:33 * Filly_Nightmares curls up around Ali for warms
07:33 * Ali keeps Filly_Nightmares warm
07:33 * Filly_Nightmares shiver
07:34 * Ali adds more blankets to Filly_Nightmares
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07:47 <ConfusionRift> Hello everypony.
07:53 * Filly_Nightmares clambers onto Ali and shiver
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10:17 * DerbyFloat drools on ConfusionRift
10:24 * ConfusionRift pets DerbyFloat. :P
10:25 * DerbyFloat curls up on ConfusionRift and sleepies
10:27 * ConfusionRift patpats DerbyFloat. "Have a good one!"
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11:06 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Calpain: Morning Discussion #1475 [ http://tinyurl.com/y73ws94e ]
11:27 <Finwe> Lt Cdr ConfusionRift!
11:27 <Finwe> o7
11:40 <Koopz> RAdm. Finwe o7
11:40 <Finwe> Capt Koopz.
11:40 <Finwe> o7
11:41 <ConfusionRift> RAdm. Finwe. (salutes)
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11:58 <Koopz> the FF14 playerbase seems to be a lot different from the WoW playerbase
11:59 <Koopz> at least in regards to anything that could make things simpler
12:00 <Koopz> while WoW has official Addons support FF14 has none. FF14 has macros but the veteran players tell you to not use them because they're clunky and mean DPS loss
12:25 <Schism> Well, they really are. Macros are best used for crafting.
12:26 <Schism> There are some viable uses for macros, of course. Setting up a menu to switch out hotbars, for example.
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12:46 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: 3D Pony Art Gallery #63 [ http://tinyurl.com/y7l7d9rd ]
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12:54 <Finwe> Mr RazorSharpFang.
12:54 * Finwe doffs his hat.
12:55 * Finwe Akubra hats on RazorSharpFang.
13:05 * DerbyFloat stretches
13:08 <Finwe> Miss DerbyFloat.
13:08 * Finwe doffs his hat.
13:13 * DerbyFloat chews on Finwe's tail
13:15 * Finwe tail-wiggles!
13:15 <Finwe> !plot
13:15 <DerpyBot> *wigglewiggle*
13:15 <Finwe> *wigglewiggle*
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13:30 <Schism> *wigglewiggle*
13:34 * ConfusionRift collapses sick.
13:34 <ConfusionRift> I should go to sleep. Laaateeers.
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13:35 * Finwe patpats ConfuzzlementRift and Filly_Nightmares.
13:36 * Schism boops the Filly_Nightmares wif some warm pancakes, drizzled with raspberry jam and loaded with whipped cream.
13:37 <Koopz> so what's all the fuzz about Maroon 5 and Spongebob in the Superbowl Halftime show?
13:38 <Schism> Evidently, everything old is new again?
13:38 * Schism also boops Koopz with a Thousand Needles.
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13:43 <Koopz> ecch
13:44 <Koopz> get that stinky piece of Kalimdor out of my face
13:45 * Schism blinks. "Wa? No, Thousand Needles is from Thanalan."
13:46 * Koopz tosses a Kaktor at Schism "you did that on purpose!"
13:47 <Koopz> *Cactuar
13:48 * Schism eats the Cactuar. o3o
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13:48 <Schism> Grilled nopales are a fine treat.
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14:31 <Schism> Aw. End of an era: "Machinima" is shutting down.
14:36 <RazorSharpFang> They ceased to serve a real purpose a long time ago, but it wasn't their fault. Youtube changed.
14:41 <Schism> Mmm.
15:24 * Schism creates an omelette du fromage.
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15:27 <ADragonHoarding> oo, tasty
15:30 <Schism> But of course. With garlic and onions, too.
15:30 <Schism> And a little sriracha for bite.
15:33 <ADragonHoarding> anybody know a good resource for D&D 5e adventures
15:34 * Schism coughs.
15:35 <Schism> Link sent.
15:36 <Schism> It even has a 5e sourcebook for Dominaria.
15:40 <ADragonHoarding> schway
15:41 * ADragonHoarding sends to self
15:52 <Schism> It is horrifying to see a 25-year-old cake being tasted.
15:54 <ADragonHoarding> ...25 years what
15:54 <ADragonHoarding> wouldn't it just be a rock at that point?
15:54 <Schism> Oh, it's a 25-year-old box of microwaveable cake mix.
15:55 <Schism> Still, I suspect, just as edible as the day it was produced.
15:57 <ADragonHoarding> ah.
15:57 <ADragonHoarding> If properly stored, perhaps
15:57 <ADragonHoarding> The main issue with cake mix is letting moisture in
15:58 <Schism> Welllll, it /was/ stored, but... the icing went rancid, the streusel was a rock, and the flour was... well, it baked up...
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16:08 * Schism blinks as Celestia turns the entire sun into cake. "Welp."
16:12 <ADragonHoarding> The cake is a sun?
16:13 <Schism> Heh, the MLP Loops have loopers doing very strange things. Celestia took her surfboard and decided to dive into a sun-sized cake, so Luna was left to try and salvage the situation.
16:17 <ADragonHoarding> Create an example replica of the sun, right over there?
16:17 <ADragonHoarding> *exact
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16:39 * Vulpor walks in to a chant of we'er still here we'er still here
16:44 <Schism> Indeed...
16:44 <ADragonHoarding> wherever still here?
16:50 <Vulpor> I am a Pats fan
16:51 <Vulpor> Its...............magical right now
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17:26 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Pony Plushie Compilation #309 [ http://tinyurl.com/yb8pkvq8 ]
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18:06 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Twilight Sparkle's Intro to Smash Bros Ultimate~ [ http://tinyurl.com/y75pw7e7 ]
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18:29 <Schism> "The derpocalypse cults believe [Ditzy] to be the embodiment of apocalypse in both meanings at once, a being of revelatory catastrophe and catastrophic revelation."
18:30 <Schism> Humm. Gonna get up to +10 and rainy this evening, before dropping again.
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18:36 <Schism> Hm, Minecraft has pandas.
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19:06 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Ponify a Video Game Character Open Art Event - The Submissions! [ http://tinyurl.com/ybv6jtq7 ]
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19:11 <Schism> Hm. An interesting SCP, this. http://www.scp-wiki.net/scp-8900-ex
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19:25 <PinkieShy> Its hot inside the house today...
19:25 <PinkieShy> Almost 70 outside..
19:25 <PinkieShy> and 78 inside..
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19:43 <ADragonHoarding> Schism: so, the idea is that the world used to be greyscale?
19:55 * PinkieShy hands ADragonHoarding a slice of pepperoni pizza
19:56 * Cepheid awakens.
19:56 <lunanightwind_> Hi everyone
19:57 <Cepheid> Well, I've been awake for a while. 10 AM.
19:57 <Cepheid> But I was off playing RE2 with my mother.
19:57 <lunanightwind_> Your mom plays RE2? That's cool
19:58 <Cepheid> Nah, she watches me play.
19:58 <Cepheid> She's not got the reflexes for such games, but her eyes seem to react very quickly to small details.
19:58 <Cepheid> Much better than mine. Can't count the number of times she noticed something in the short period I look around or look at something.
19:58 <lunanightwind_> I am lucky if I can get Mom to play Tetris with me
19:59 <lunanightwind_> Although she will watch me play a couple SNES games if I'm in the living room
19:59 <Cepheid> If I were to give a rough comparison between me and the rest of the family for gaming...
19:59 <Cepheid> My dad's clueless and inept at all but puzzle games.
20:00 <lunanightwind_> Lol my biological dad will play Street fighter with me
20:00 <Cepheid> My mother's good at puzzle games, but has visual acuity for games that involve fast-moving imagery, just not the reflexes to react.
20:00 <Cepheid> My sister's about on par with an average gamer. Capable of playing and completing games, but takes a lot longer than someone with a lot of experience. These days, my sister could probably complete any of the games in the RE series without issue.
20:01 <lunanightwind_> Stepfather hates anything that isn't involving cars like even his TV shows are like those mechanics shows he says that the internet is a waste of money
20:01 <Cepheid> Myself..
20:01 <Cepheid> Well, ask ADragonHoarding. He's probably a better judge of my abilities than anyone else here.
20:01 <Cepheid> At the least, I've got reasonable reflexes, but I'm incredibly reckless.
20:01 <lunanightwind_> I am finally doing an undertale playthrough
20:01 <lunanightwind_> I put off buying it long enough
20:01 <Cepheid> I have no ability to predict the near future based on what I am seeing.
20:02 <Cepheid> As a result, you tend to see me attacking right into other enemy's attacks.
20:02 <Cepheid> On the other hand, keep me at a distance somehow, with say, ranged weaponry, and I *CAN* aim reasonably well.
20:02 <lunanightwind_> I'm learning to play on PC again haven't done that in 10 years so like actually getting used to using a mouse for camera and keyboard for movement it's an adjustment
20:02 <Cepheid> Yeah.
20:03 <Cepheid> I'm not too keen on PS4 controllers for shooters, myself.
20:03 <lunanightwind_> But I got a pretty good PC now
20:03 <Cepheid> The jerkiness of aiming makes it hard.
20:03 <lunanightwind_> Last time I upgraded was like during mlp season 1
20:03 <Cepheid> Mmm, I'm kind of regretting my choice of getting RE2 for the PS4, truth told. But then I'd have a pain in the ass problem of playing it downstairs with my mother.
20:04 <Cepheid> I'd need some sort of platform, plus a long-cabled, possibly powered, USB hub.
20:04 <lunanightwind_> Just upgraded everything for my computer I7 8700k processor rtx 2070 graphics card 32 gb of ddr4 ram
20:04 <Cepheid> Nice.
20:04 <lunanightwind_> Yeah fiancee upgraded everything
20:04 <Cepheid> The ram might be a bit much, unless you're doing video processing or virtual machine work.
20:05 <Cepheid> Not many games still go above 4GB of RAM usage, even when they're 64-bit.
20:05 <lunanightwind_> Also hello everyone nice to meet you all just realized I'm in daily first time in the 7 years I've been on canternet that I've actually came to daily
20:05 <Cepheid> Probably because devs are hesitant to use more than 4GB due to performance issues.
20:06 <DerpyBot> New post on Equestria Daily by Sethisto: Comic Dubs: All You Need... / No Means No / Letters to Celestia [ http://tinyurl.com/ybmhhkjn ]
20:06 <Cepheid> Sure, more RAM is always better, but that only applies to when multiple applications are running. The more RAM you utilize in an application, the more cache misses that are likely to occur, unless you use the extra RAM to prepare data that will be used later, and swapped in to the place of the hot/cold memory in use.
20:06 <Cepheid> And those cache misses? Costly as hell
20:07 <lunanightwind_> Ram will help with rendering windows
20:07 <lunanightwind_> *rendering videos
20:07 <Cepheid> Memory performance is as such: Registers are faster than L1, L1 is faster than L2, L2 is faster than L3, L3 is faster than system memory, system memory is faster than a hard drive.
20:07 <Cepheid> And yeah, that's primarily where it benefits the most.
20:08 <Cepheid> As I said, either virtual machines or video rendering stuff.
20:08 <Cepheid> Gaming still has a long way to go to make good use of lots of memory.
20:08 <lunanightwind_> I was doing rendering on YouTube videos on an old athlon II 630 with 4 gb of RAM and an old Radeon hd 5670
20:09 <Cepheid> Off the top of my head, the best way to abuse it would be to pre-load a large level or region, and once that's done, let it sit in RAM.
20:09 <Cepheid> Once it comes time to load that level, use a fast memory transfer operation to replace the current level data with that level data. Only works with games that are separated in levels, though.
20:09 <Cepheid> That is, games with a distinct transition between areas. Games like the Fallout or Elder Scroll series would definitely benefit.
20:10 <lunanightwind_> So my youtube video editing will be faster was taking 20 hours to render a 60 minute video
20:10 <Cepheid> Yeah, that's definitely the case.
20:10 <lunanightwind_> And I can actually record PC games now lol
20:10 <Cepheid> Also, sorry for going on and on. I tend to do that when I start discussing certain topics.
20:10 <lunanightwind_> It's cool
20:11 <Cepheid> My brain likes to analyze problems, try to figure out how best to solve them.
20:11 <lunanightwind_> I was gaming exclusively on console for a while so I could capture gameplay
20:11 <Cepheid> That said, using RAM to pre-load stuff before it's visible is actually a reasonable idea, when the amount of RAM is massive.
20:11 <lunanightwind_> Yeah
20:11 <Cepheid> It's unfortunate more games don't use it.
20:12 <Cepheid> I'd implement it as some sort of configurable feature in the options menu.
20:12 <lunanightwind_> Like just the overall speed upgrade upgrade I see is worth it
20:12 <Cepheid> "Allow usage of X amount of RAM."
20:12 <lunanightwind_> And for the price of that graphics card it better be worth it lol
20:12 <Cepheid> And when the game is provided with more RAM than it needs to do something, it can perhaps start preloading stuff that might be needed, based on heuristics, recordings of player behaviours, etc.
20:13 <Cepheid> What were you using before?
20:13 <Cepheid> Oh
20:13 <Cepheid> Radeon HD 5670.
20:13 <lunanightwind_> Yeah
20:13 <Cepheid> Yeah, an RTX 2070 is definitely a considerable upgrade.
20:13 <Cepheid> Even beats my GTX 970.
20:13 <lunanightwind_> Oh I can already see that
20:13 <Cepheid> Which itself is better than the Radeon HD 5670.
20:14 <lunanightwind_> Yeah the 5670 was pre pci powering of graphics cards
20:14 <Cepheid> Probably closer to the AGP era.
20:14 <lunanightwind_> The 2070 is phenomenal
20:14 <Cepheid> I recall there being a transition period where cards came in AGP and PCI-E.
20:14 <Cepheid> Similar to the era before, where cards came in PCI and AGP.
20:14 <lunanightwind_> 630 dollars but everything is beautiful
20:15 <Cepheid> American, I presume?
20:15 <lunanightwind_> My card was pci-e 16 pin but it was powered by pci-e
20:15 <lunanightwind_> Yeah american
20:15 <Cepheid> Yeah, that'd be...
20:15 <Cepheid> $830 or so dollars.
20:15 * PinkieShy hands Cepheid a lie in a cup.. Pepsi in a cup labelled "Enjoy, Coca-cola"
20:15 <Cepheid> What brand/memory size was it?
20:16 <lunanightwind_> Which the 5670 or the 2070?
20:16 <Cepheid> The 2070. By brand and memory size, I'm talking the manufacturer, and how much RAM. I know it's an nVidia branded card, but ASUS, Gigabyte and the like are the ones who make the cards overall.
20:17 <Cepheid> I just want to see what your particular card would cost me.
20:17 <Cepheid> Just 'cause I can do a currency conversion, doesn't tell me what the actual cost is. The cost is defined by various details, etc.
20:17 <lunanightwind_> MSI 8gb and it's the gaming z model
20:18 <Cepheid> $809 CAD.
20:18 <Cepheid> Prices are likely to start dropping over the next few weeks if the gas pricing trend continues.
20:18 <lunanightwind_> Yeah it's pricey I wouldn't have done it if my fiance hadn't purchased it for me
20:18 <Cepheid> For the first time in several years, gas prices have reached below 90 cents a litre.
20:19 <Cepheid> Yeah, I'm broke, myself. What money I have is in savings, which is about $300.
20:19 <lunanightwind_> Around here gas is 2.54 a gallon
20:19 <Cepheid> Yeah, which gives a rough example of how pricey gas is here. :P
20:19 <Cepheid> There's 4 litres in a gallon.
20:19 <Cepheid> That's about $3.60 CAD a gallon.
20:20 <lunanightwind_> I am on disability cuz of some mental problems so I make 770 dollars a month
20:20 <lunanightwind_> So the graphics card would have never come lol
20:20 <Cepheid> For the longest time though, it was closer to $1.20 a litre, or $4.80 a gallon.
20:20 <Cepheid> Hum, you too, huh?
20:20 <Cepheid> OCD, ADHD, bipolar type 2, extreme anger issues.
20:20 <Cepheid> I'm considered permanently disabled.
20:21 <lunanightwind_> PTSD, agoraphobia, schizophrenia, MPD and a couple other things
20:21 <Cepheid> Fun.
20:21 <lunanightwind_> It's a party in my head...and only in my head, noones invited and I'm not leaving lol
20:21 <Cepheid> Can't compare cases, as both have their own problems to deal with.
20:21 <lunanightwind_> Yeah obviously it's tough no matter what
20:22 <Cepheid> Right now, I'm on a tricky edge with my university because of my issues.
20:22 <Cepheid> My university doesn't like people who suffer from mental illness. Too much money to deal with them, apparently.
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20:23 <Cepheid> They hire people to help the situation, counselors and such.
20:23 <lunanightwind_> Yeah I can imagine that would be tough well let me just say thank you for sharing that with me and for being so kind I know that is something that usually goes under appreciated and it's nice to hear :)
20:23 <Cepheid> But my experiences tell me that with exception to one counselor, most of them are the type not to actually help students.
20:23 <Cepheid> I've spoken with students who've dealt with these other counselors to get a general idea as to the bullet I dodged, when one of my classmates told me how said counselours behave.
20:24 <lunanightwind_> Yeah when I was in school I had some of these issues and the councilors were trash
20:24 <Cepheid> The counselor I can see, he only pops in on Friday, making him hard to access, but he's a good person. He is patient, offers suggestions, and in extreme cases, will even converse with hospitals regarding situations.
20:24 <Cepheid> The others, from what I hear, basically just tell students to "man up" or "woman up" and cope with their problems themselves.
20:25 <lunanightwind_> Yeah my current therapists idea of "helping" is basically telling me to get over it
20:25 <Cepheid> But then, I'm not surprised. Here in Canada, universities and colleges are commonly run as a big business. Their goal is to get money. Anything that impairs that should be removed or dealt with.
20:25 <lunanightwind_> Unfortunately the clinic I was at assigned me the therapist and won't assign someone new till this one leaves
20:26 <Cepheid> That being said, paying top dollar for decent counselours is thus out of the picture. By considering that, it can be implied the University does not like students with mental health problems. It's also been demonstrated in the past, with expulsion of "trouble students" who have had to be sent to the hospital for certain mental health situations.
20:26 <lunanightwind_> Getting any councilor on Medicaid and Medicare in the us is just stupid
20:27 <Cepheid> Most recent case was a student who suffered regular depressive episodes. She suffered two cases in one semester that required to go to the hospital. After that, the university just expelled her with the excuse of poor attendance.
20:27 <Cepheid> Her poor attendance was because she was hospitalized in both cases.
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20:27 <lunanightwind_> That's horrible
20:27 <lunanightwind_> Some people man...rude
20:27 <Cepheid> And yeah, getting decent counselors or psychiatrists is hard.
20:28 <Cepheid> Up until the current psych I've been seeing, I had been waiting for five years to see a psychiatrist.
20:28 <Cepheid> Finally get to see one, and she's retiring later this year.
20:28 <Cepheid> I blame the Ford government of Ontario for that one.
20:28 <lunanightwind_> I had a really good one but she left the clinic to go work as a prison rehabilitation therapist
20:28 <lunanightwind_> Can't blame her
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20:29 <Cepheid> The Ford provincial government, in it's infinite wisdom, decided to put funds into mental health. By scrapping the liberals mental health funding, which was 2.1 million over 4 years.
20:29 <Cepheid> Their new plan, which they tried their best to make sound so great?
20:29 <Cepheid> 1.9 million, over 10 years.
20:29 <lunanightwind_> This new therapist I have been fighting with just to get her to refer to me by the correct pronouns or use my chosen name
20:29 <Cepheid> The $200,000 difference was put into Toronto's police forces.
20:30 * Cepheid stomp stomp stomps somewhere nearby around SunsetShimmer. Is he coming from above? Is he coming from below? To the left? To the right? NO ONE KNOWS!
20:30 <lunanightwind_> Lol
20:30 <Cepheid> </RE2 Reference>
20:31 <lunanightwind_> Yeah
20:31 <Cepheid> Anyhow, more pleasing topic time I think.
20:32 <Cepheid> I'm supposed to be avoiding discussing the university and mental health stuff in general because it pisses me off, all with what's going on. And the last thing I need is getting peeved off. o3o
20:32 <Cepheid> Ask anyone here. Me getting pissed off is not a good thing.
20:32 <Cepheid> Anyhow..
20:33 <lunanightwind_> I get it hell ask Ali sometime a depressed Luna is not fun
20:33 <Cepheid> So you're a youtube personality then, I presume? You mention recordings, video processing and the like. I'm assuming LPer.
20:33 <lunanightwind_> Yeah I do mostly voiceless cuz well was a pain in the butt with my old computer
20:34 <lunanightwind_> But new computer means new videos and I got a mic lol
20:35 <Cepheid> Nice.
20:35 <lunanightwind_> Undertale will likely be my first voiced let's play
20:35 <Cepheid> I'm a Computer Science undergrad student. Don't think that means I know nuttin' though. I've got a college diploma backing me as well, so I know my *YAY*.
20:36 <Cepheid> While that basically means I can do almost anything in the field of CS, I tend to focus more towards programming. In particular, graphics programming. I also have an affinity for dealing with aeronautics, some basic data analysis, and UI stuff.
20:36 <lunanightwind_> Hey wouldn't assume you know nothing if you are going into computer science I think you will at least have a rough idea of what your up to
20:37 <Cepheid> Heh.
20:37 <lunanightwind_> Years and years ago I was going to school for video production
20:37 <Cepheid> I know more about computers than anything else, truth told. My OCD/ADHD nature tends to cause me to focus almost exclusively on computers.
20:37 <lunanightwind_> Like 13 years ago now
20:37 <Cepheid> Heh.
20:37 <Cepheid> Yeah, it's been... hmm...
20:38 <Cepheid> 8 years since I graduated from college, give or take a few months.
20:38 <lunanightwind_> Hey I was diagnosed with ADHD when I was young haven't taken anything for it in maybe 20 years but hey it's there I guedd
20:38 <Cepheid> I'm trying to branch out my knowledge a bit, though. Partly because it's required, and partly because it makes it easier to socialize with folks outside of CS.
20:38 <lunanightwind_> Guess
20:38 <Cepheid> Yeah, I didn't get that lucky.
20:38 <Cepheid> I've only been diagnosed within the last 5 or so months. I'm 32 going on 33.
20:39 <lunanightwind_> I'm 31 going on 32
20:39 <Cepheid> About 25 years ago, they thought my problems were caused by orange juice.
20:39 <lunanightwind_> Hell I'm robbing the cradle with a fiance who's in his early 20s lol
20:39 <Cepheid> Seriously.
20:39 <Cepheid> Nothing wrong with that. I've met people in similar situations.
20:40 <Cepheid> Some people prefer those near their age. Some prefer younger. Some prefer older. Really, all that matters is the legality of the relationship.
20:40 <lunanightwind_> Eh I got tested for alot of things after my grandma died in 96 depression ADHD and the schizophrenia were discovered then
20:41 <lunanightwind_> Also had an IQ test although I feel those results were skewed because of my age
20:41 <Cepheid> Probably.
20:41 <Cepheid> I don't know where my IQ rests, but it'd probably be skewed because of my near-exclusive focus on computers.
20:42 <Cepheid> Geography, history, all those other topics, I know little about.
20:42 <Cepheid> Because to me, it just feels like a waste of time to know any of that.
20:42 <lunanightwind_> I was at 172 when I was 13 but I feel like it's lower and I've always just been well read and strive to learn things
20:43 <lunanightwind_> My guess it's likely just average but it was nice being seen by teachers as being that smart back then lol
20:45 <Cepheid> I don't know which scale they are using, but I'm pretty sure on the conventional scale used now, 172 would be excessively high
20:45 <Cepheid> But the reality is pretty straightforward, the tests are skewed.
20:46 <Cepheid> IQ tests are general knowledge over a bunch of broad fields.
20:46 <Cepheid> A person can be weak in multiple fields, but extremely skilled in one.
20:46 <Cepheid> Which is the case for me.
20:46 <Cepheid> I am weak in most other areas, but incredibly strong with computers. The result would be skewed, not taking that into consideration.
20:47 <lunanightwind_> Yeah I completely agree and I have no clue what scale they were using back then and honestly to me it's a number it is nothing to flex over and honestly with my problems I just wanna be as normal as I can be
20:47 <lunanightwind_> (which as a transgender girl is far from normal anyway lol)
20:48 <Cepheid> Heh.
20:48 <Cepheid> Normality is subjective.
20:49 <Schism> Normalcy is overrated.
20:49 <Cepheid> Everyone has their own idea as to what it means to be 'normal' as a living being. On top of that is layered the cultural concept of 'normal.' Which is only ever shown when you are out and about.
20:49 <Cepheid> Your usual 'normal' will be what you experience in the privacy of your own home.
20:50 <Cepheid> Of course, there are legitimate cases where a person may not be normal, in regards to the concept of normality for a human being.
20:50 <Cepheid> These cases are usually the ones who are suffering mental health issues of varying degrees.
20:50 <Schism> Also, lunanightwind_: hOi!!
20:50 <Cepheid> No matter what anyone tells me, there's no way to to convince me that my OCD, ADHD, or bipolar type 2 are 'normal.'
20:51 <Cepheid> It may be normal in the sense that my brain developed that way, but the effects they cause are contradictory to survival.
20:51 <Schism> Somewhat, though the question of whether ADHD could be a survival mechanism is an interesting one.
20:51 <lunanightwind_> My normal is what I make it and after years of fighting I'm happy to play with this normal
20:51 <Cepheid> Constantly observing little details that seem out of place?
20:51 <Schism> With so much sensory overload around us, yeah.
20:51 <lunanightwind_> Also hai Schism
20:52 <Cepheid> It's possible, yes.
20:52 <Cepheid> Our eyes, and thus, our brain, are drawn to certain visual cues.
20:52 <Cepheid> There's also auditory cues and other types of cues. Our senses are designed to consider such cues.
20:53 <Cepheid> If these cues were put together and used in certain ways, they could be used to abuse the human mind.
20:53 <Cepheid> Get it to act a certain way.
20:53 <Cepheid> In fact, it's pretty much a given that this is what's happening.
20:53 <lunanightwind_> I'm just a normal trans girl who hears voices shared a body with two other people is constantly sad unless I'm in my fiance's arms and has horrifying day terrors and nightmares on a daily basis, completely normal LOL
20:53 <Cepheid> Almost any time where we have to make a decision about something, a cue of some sort is likely being manipulated. Especially with unimportant details, like which product to buy.
20:54 <Schism> Yeeep, Cepheid.
20:54 <Cepheid> That said, there are cues I'm surprised aren't abused.
20:54 <Cepheid> It's a well-known fact that the human eye has more rods/cones for seeing the colour green.
20:54 <Cepheid> Than any other colour.
20:54 <Schism> Also, bwarh. I know it's not the same, luna, but when I write characters... well, they live on in my brain.
20:54 <Cepheid> Thus, using the colour green to attract individuals would be a viable tactic.
20:55 * Cepheid is being overly analytical again.
20:55 <Schism> Interestingly, I have this client set up so that whenever I'm mentioned, the line is green.
20:55 <Cepheid> Most clients default to that, I think.
20:55 <Cepheid> Mine certainly does.
20:55 <Schism> Hmm. Well, it works.
20:56 <Cepheid> Eh, sort of.
20:56 <Cepheid> There's a problem with me and green.
20:56 <lunanightwind_> Yeah not the same schism but I don't expect other people to know what this stuff is like and I don't take offense to stuff like that being said or even being asked about that kinda stuff
20:56 <Cepheid> I don't see green very well among white.
20:56 <Cepheid> In fact, in my peripheral vision, green blends almost perfectly with white.
20:56 <lunanightwind_> Quenching the thirst for knowledge is one of the greatest things one can do
20:56 <Cepheid> Unless it's a dark green. In which case, it stands out, but in my peripheral vision, I'll likely just write it off as the standard black text.
20:57 <Cepheid> Truth told, bright colours actively fatigue and hurt my eyes.
20:57 <Cepheid> But many programs are not designed to work with dark themes for one reason or another.
20:58 <Cepheid> For example, browsers.
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20:58 <Cepheid> Firefox uses the local WM's elements and themes for standard(that is, non-CSSed or customized) web page elements, like edit boxes or buttons.
20:58 <Cepheid> As a result, if I use a dark theme, edit boxes, like username/password boxes, become dark with black text.
20:59 <Cepheid> Making them practically unreadable and unusable.
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21:00 <lunanightwind_> I'm trying to get used to having a white mouse on a white background on a 40 inch 4k hdr10 monitor the mouse is tiny and invisible
21:00 <Cepheid> https://i.imgur.com/8TaMh6h.png For example.
21:01 <Cepheid> I don't know who's idea it was to do that, but it's stupid.
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21:01 <Schism> luna: Thankfully, you can adjust that in main.cpl.
21:01 <Cepheid> lunanightwind_: Myself, I just use a lower resolution, or use DPI scaling support in the OS.
21:01 <Cepheid> I have a 4k display, but since my system can't drive it for gaming 90% of the time, I just drop to 1920x1080.
21:02 <lunanightwind_> I'm also getting used to a mouse with variable doing lol
21:02 <lunanightwind_> The games I run in minimum 1440p now
21:02 <Cepheid> Nothing wrong with that.
21:02 <lunanightwind_> Might as well with the raw horsepower I have
21:02 <Cepheid> After a certain point, it gets pointless.
21:03 <Cepheid> As the distance between user and display increases, the resolution matters less and less.
21:03 <lunanightwind_> I'd rather be running at the 1440p and getting 100 plus frames per second then running at the 4K native and getting you know around 60 to 70
21:03 <Cepheid> The eye/brain basically performs dithering by combining nearby pixels into a single pixel.
21:03 <Cepheid> The primary tile you'll ever notice lower-resolution imagery is when you got really thin objects on screen.
21:04 <Cepheid> If the object manages to somehow be thinner than a single pixel, it may just appear to disappear at lower resolutions, while at higher resolutions, it'll be there, clear and crisp.
21:04 <Cepheid> This happens because on higher resolutions, the size of the object causes more pixels to be touched.
21:04 <lunanightwind_> Honestly I've been putting an unhealthy amount of time into n64 emulation
21:05 <Cepheid> Heh.
21:05 <lunanightwind_> GoldenEye and Zelda randomizers
21:05 <Cepheid> I'll be dead honest. Unless the game's logic is designed around the framerate, higher framerate means little.
21:05 <Schism> Reminds me, I should catch up on DC's LttP randomizer.
21:06 <lunanightwind_> I've run 3 OoT randomizers this week
21:06 <Cepheid> It's possible some games are designed to interpolate stuff from one frame to the next, to create a smoother visual, but... That's usually incredibly difficult to implement properly and safely.
21:06 <Cepheid> Especially with physics getting involved.
21:06 <lunanightwind_> Eventually I'll remember to record one
21:07 <lunanightwind_> Full rando with logic
21:07 <Cepheid> I'm debating what frequency I want to run my game's logic at.
21:08 <Cepheid> 50 is such an easy number, since it evenly divides 1000.
21:08 <lunanightwind_> And GoldenEye I might take a break from till I get a PC n64 controller
21:08 <Cepheid> In fact, whoever decided displays would run at 60 Hz in North America, I wish I could slap them.
21:08 <lunanightwind_> Yes
21:09 <lunanightwind_> Give em one for the girl who can't leave the house
21:10 <lunanightwind_> Can I also slap whoever decided the PlayStation classic should use primarally PAL isos cuz like playing tekken 3 in 50 htz is awful
21:10 <Cepheid> 1000 / 60 = 16.66666, or more accurately: 50/3
21:10 <lunanightwind_> I mean it's easily fixed but bleh
21:11 <Cepheid> Basically, attempting to do 60 logic updates per second to match the framerate is a pain.
21:11 <lunanightwind_> I would imagine so
21:11 <Cepheid> Since during most frames, there will be 1 update. But in rare cases, there'll be 2.
21:12 <Cepheid> I think this is why some games do one update per frame.
21:12 <Cepheid> Since the hardware is guaranteed to handle the timing in synchronization to the display.
21:13 <Cepheid> But then you run into difficulties. Namely, if the hardware isn't up to speed, the game, both visually and logically, will run slowly.
21:13 <Cepheid> Meanwhile, if you limit the updates per second through doing the timing and calculations yourself..
21:14 <Cepheid> If the video hardware can't keep up, the CPU-side logic can be executed multiple times to "catch up" and then draw the next frame.
21:15 <Cepheid> The end-result in a game that stutters visually, but works correctly and still controls better than simply slowing everything down.
21:15 <Cepheid> La-Mulana, a game I played recently, is a prime example of the former behaviour.
21:15 <Cepheid> If the game starts to run slow, it becomes unplayable. Everything the player does is tied to the frame rate.
21:16 <Cepheid> Of course, using that approach, everything is still perfect in terms of expected results frame-by-frame, but the lack of control is a bit of an issue, no?
21:17 <lunanightwind_> La mulanai remember that game
21:17 <lunanightwind_> Mulana*
21:17 <lunanightwind_> Auto correct is dumb
21:17 <Cepheid> The final approach, more commonly used these days I think, but fraught with it's own issues, especially for physics, is to calculate the amount of time that has passed from one frame to the next, and advance the logic by that much time.
21:18 <Cepheid> This approach creates problems for physics, because it introduces error into the mathematics for physics the longer the period of time between frames is.
21:18 <Cepheid> Probably the cause of a lot of physics bugs you see in games out there these days.
21:20 <lunanightwind_> Huh see that's stuff I didn't know but it's interesting to learn
21:21 <Cepheid> Others are just a result of interactiosn between objects with physics, and scenery.
21:22 <Schism> Pffsh. "Sonic the Hedgehog 3 is 25, which means everyone's been stuck on the Carnival Night Zone barrel for a quarter-century."
21:22 <Cepheid> Like in Dead Space, if a corpse was laying in a doorway, it'd start to spaz out when the door closed. This was because the physics engine was trying to place parts of the model in a near-infinitely thin space between the wall and the door, but couldn't find a spot, so parts of the model would end up inside of the door, or in the wall. After attempting to rectify, it'd give up.
21:22 <lunanightwind_> If I stop talking it's cuz phone died and I'm cooking
21:22 <Cepheid> Next frame, it'd try again, fail. Next frame, it'd try again, fail. And so on.
21:22 <Cepheid> Resulting in a part of the model of the critter constantly jittering around, which then translated along the rest of the body.
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21:29 <Schism> Hm. This makes sense. An energy vampire, who sucks the life out of the party.
21:32 <ADragonHoarding> something something hit by a car
21:32 <ADragonHoarding> consider
21:32 <Cepheid> Hmm?
21:32 <Schism> Heh, I love that one.
21:33 <Schism> Then again, I love everything in the Gamers Against Weed canon.
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21:44 <Cepheid> ...
21:44 <Cepheid> Oh, right
21:44 <Cepheid> EO Nexus is- ...
21:44 <Cepheid> Well, I'm not getting it tomorrow, now.
21:45 <Cepheid> Apparently it went to pull the payment out sometime in the last few days. Gods, I wish I could do an up-front payment.
21:45 * Schism blinks... "Wha?"
21:46 <Cepheid> I have little money in my account, so..
21:46 <Cepheid> It failed the transaction.
21:46 <Cepheid> Now I'm not getting same-day delivery. Oh well, probably for the best.
21:46 <Schism> Ah, I see.
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23:59 <Pony|68560> im naked
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